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Welcome to opposition territory. Here at the Philadelphia Sports Table
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podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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in the world, twelve years strong. We've got a great
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discussion coming your way with regard to the Indianapolis Colts.
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We've got a great guest. It has been some time
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since we have had him on, but it's good to
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talk ball with him. We've got Zach Hick. Zach, buddy,
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how are you, my friend?
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I'm doing all right, doing all right. I mean, I'm
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imagining you guys are doing a little bit better considering
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where you. You know, the shirt I'm seeing that you're wearing.
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Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I.
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Wish that was the team I was covering. But it's cool,
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it's cool. We love the Colts. Eventually, you'll get out
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of the base right exactly.
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You can't fall out of a basement window. The Colts
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are going to get back to some sort of respectability.
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And I use that in quotes at some point in
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the foreseeable future, I think, so I guess to get
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us started off here, Zach, you know it. I mean,
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it has been a while, of course since the Indianapolis
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Colts have been a real threat and contender in the AFC,
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And I do want to start off our conversation here
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with this team where they're going by just getting into
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how this organization is now being run of course Jim
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Mersey passing away this offseason, and really what the vision
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of this team and organization really is for the future.
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I mean, when you look at this recent off season
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and where the team and his team and organization really
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do want to go, how do you see the vision
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really manifesting itself for the Indianapolis Colts with regard to
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the team, the organization, and its growth for the future.
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Yeah, I would say as of right now, it still
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just kind of feels like like they're waiting for a
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hail Mary to hit in a way, because you know,
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you're in this really weird spot where you just took
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a quarterback in the top five of the draft a
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couple of years ago, and it hasn't been great for
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the couple of years that you've had them. But you
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don't really get that opportunity very often to have a
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quarterback that you draft that high, you know, so you
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have to like ride it out and just see what
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happens with it, and then if it crashes and burns.
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Then you start again. You do it again, because this
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is such a quarterback driven league, like even your team,
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the Philadelphia Eagles. Here, you guys have one of the
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best rosters in football, but you still had to have,
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you know, a top ten quarterback in the league to
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carry it to the promised Land. You know, you have
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to have that quarterback. And that's what you know. It
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brings hope, it brings promise, It brings everything that you're
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looking for with your team. And with this Colts team,
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you know, we can look through the roster and say, look,
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they got a good receiver room, all pro running back,
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pretty good offensive line with a future Hall of Famer
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at left guard. Defense gets Louis and Rumo, plus a
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couple of big name additions there on that side of them.
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But the end of the day, this thing is going
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to go as far as the quarterback is going to
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take them. Yeah, and when you're rolling out a former
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top five pick who just has not played up to
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the standard that you want him to play, even though
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you knew he was going to be a project, it
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still hasn't really gone the way that you expected. And
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then Daniel Jones, a guy who just got run out
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of the New York Giants, and he had some decent
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moments a couple of years ago, but he's still never
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probably going to be like a legit franchise guy. So
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it kind of just puts a dampener on everything that
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you're doing here where it's like you can look at
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all the processes and say, like, you know, we draft
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pretty well, we did some good things in free agency.
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Typically they do well with trades, but until you hit
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on quarterback, it doesn't matter. And that's why they like
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it's hard to stay with the Colts because they're not
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a basement team. Like they're not a basement team. They
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are a just Jeff Fisher esque middle of the road team,
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and that's where they've been, right, I mean, they've been
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there since Andrew Luck retired and then they had the
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one season in twenty twenty two where they crashed out
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and just completely hit the bob. But besides that, they've
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been a fringe playoff team every single year. And that's
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almost worse than being a bottom feeder, because the bottom
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feeder you get chances to drag yourselves out. When you're
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in middle of the road team, you guys have to
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be perfect and get lucky at quarterback and they just
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haven't been lucky yet. And this is where we are
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with this team, So I don't know where the long
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term projection is here. Chris Bower is going on year
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nine with the team at general manager.
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Well, that's where I wanted to go next, to be
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honest with you, Zach, because you know, without Jim Mersay,
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they're anymore, you know, and you know feel bad for
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his family losing him. The guy struggled during the latter
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part of his years with a lot of different things,
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and I wonder if that vision is going to be
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there with regard to the front office, with regard to
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the you say new ownership, but I believe it's his daughters,
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Jim her Say's daughters who are really in charge of
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the organization and running it at this point in what
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the general manager and the guy who's really making the
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decisions after nine years, like, is it working? And I
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wonder where that vision is going to end up going
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or where he needs to be for the Colts really
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to get over that hump and become contenders.
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No, I completely agree, and I will say, with all
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due love and respect for Jim Irsay, one of his
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biggest faults as an owner was treating the Colts like
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a small business, like a local family, like mom and
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pop shop, where like there is this undying loyalty to everyone.
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Players get too long a leash, general managers get too
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long a leash head, coaches get too long a leege.
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Because he had that success in the early two thousands,
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so we always kept thinking, like everything I do is
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eventually will work out because I trust these people and
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I have respect for these people, and that can be
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a good thing in the NFL. Is actually a refreshing
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take on this cutthroat league that we have here. But
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sometimes you do need to make changes, and that's what
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we've seen the Colts struggle with over time, is making
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those like legit wholesale changes. It took them too long
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with Pegano and Grigson. It's taken him too long with Ballard,
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even the Frank Reich thing, when he moved down from
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Frank Reich, he went right back to someone he knew,
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which was Jeff Saturday, you know, like, which was a
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crazy situation that way crazy. Yeah, So with Jim he
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had his faults. My understanding with Carly Arsay, who is
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taking over as more of the football operations side is
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she's been getting ready for this since she was in
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her early twenties. You know, she's been working in different
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aspects of the NFL, of the Colts. She's been the
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head of the team a couple times when Jim was
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going through some of his issues, and she's ready for this.
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And my understanding is she's a little bit more cutthroat
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than Jim. You know, she's going to view this more
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as a business not you know, it's not like a
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business thing where she's not going to be investing in
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this because with the Colts, this is where they make
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their money is with the team. They don't have side
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businesses like a lot of other owners, so they are
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fully invested emotionally, physically, everything in this team. But I
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do think she's going to be a little bit more
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cutthroat than Jim. Where Jim it was such a like
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buddy buddy thing with everybody. Carly, from my understanding, is
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really taking this season serious, seeing what's gonna be on
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the field with Chris Ballard, Shane Styke and Anthony Richardson.
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And if she has to make a move, I certainly
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think she will. But she's a really smart football. Mind,
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I haven't had the chance to talk to her yet,
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but I'm really excited for her tenure as the owner,
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and I think that this could be a turning of
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the page for the Colts where they get away from
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the small business type of Gimmer say, Everyone's getting a
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long leash, where Carly comes in and does kind of
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change things and is a little bit stricter with wanting results.
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You better get Carly on the podcast, for sure. It'd
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be great to actually hear that. Absolutely, And I'd be remiss,
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folks if I didn't say where Zach Hicks here is
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from the Locked On Colts podcast. I completely forgot that
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right off the bat, So yes, Zach is from the
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Locked On Colts podcast. You know, we love our locked
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on community here at the PSD podcast show loved Locked
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on Eagles, Locked On Jaguars, Locked on Falcons. We've had
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various guests on from the locked On network here and Zach,
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let everybody know where they can find you online if
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they want to follow you on social so they can
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hear what you're talking about.
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Yeah, on socials, it's like at Zach Hicks two across
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the board, so you guys can find me anywhere there. Yeah,
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locked on cold. So then if you want to see
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And with that being said, we got to get into
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our next topic here because the quarterback position is so
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important for where this team is going to go. As
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you were mentioning, Zach, I mean, there's definitely some uncertainty
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here with this position arguably one of the most important
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in the NFL, even in sports, whether it's this battle
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we're seeing in camp between Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones. So
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I'm wondering, first, how are you looking at this quarterback
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battle here during camp? Then I got a follow up
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question for you after that. So how are things going
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here in camp with regard to the quarterback talent?
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Yeah, I think it's kind of been what was expected
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when it comes to these two quarterbacks, where you know,
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Richardson's still so young to where you're gonna see this
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incremental progress yeah from him.
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You know it.
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Progress isn't linear, so you're not always gonna get this
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big jump. But I think we have seen incremental progress
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in terms of the mechanics getting better, in terms of
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the field position getting a little bit better. But I'm
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not sure if that's still where it needs to be
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for this team to be a playoff team right this year.
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That's why you bring in a guy like Daniel Jones,
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where the way I've been describing on the podcast is like,
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on a scale of one to ten, he's gonna be
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consistently a five. You're just gonna consistently get that middle
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of the road, that baseline quarterback every single day. It's
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going to take take a lot of checkdowns the ball
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is going to get out of his hand pretty quick,
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and he's not going to do anything flashy or spectacular,
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but he can move your offense in neutral to positive situations.
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He might struggle in third and ten, but if you
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can get him into second and two, second and three,
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where you have that run pass option at all times,
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then he can be an effective NFL quarterback. And that's
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kind of where we're at with these guys where you
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have to really see if the Colts want to pick
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between more of the game manager, the just guy who's
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going to run your offense and not really do much else,
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and maybe that can get you to your eight nine
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ten wins, or you go boom or bust with Anthony Richardson,
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this young player that you've invested in, this player that
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you took really high, and go boom or bust where
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you might win five games with him, but if it
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clicks for him like it did for so many of
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these raw quarterbacks, you could be a team that can
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actually throw some punches in the AFC. So I think
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it's more of an easy decision for us sitting at home,
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where it's like, look, boom bust is positive regardless, right
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because we win twelve thirteen games, or we win four
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or five, and we're gonna be in a good situation
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there where the worst case is you start Daniel Jones
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and win seven or eight middle of the road, starting
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over with the middle of the road. But when you
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are a bunch of people fighting for their jobs, a
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bunch of people fighting for their jobs on the roster,
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sometimes that that bare minimum is pretty good to have.
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So yeah, I think overall, with how these guys have
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performed in camp, it is kind of giving what we expected.
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I do kind of grade both them on a curve
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where like Richardson, you want to see the little things
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being done, you want to see him act more like
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a professional quarterback in terms of taking the checkdowns, where
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Daniel Jones you want to see more of the big plays.
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You want to see more of him pushing the ball
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down the field. And that's a difficult concept for some
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people to grasp, is grading two players on different curves,
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But they have different things that you want to see
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from them to take that next step. So you know,
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I wouldn't say it's been a bad camp from either guy.
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I just don't think it's been like stellar. Again, Yeah,
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you're not seeing Josh Allen out there. You're not seeing
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Malmes out there. Dalen hurts like you're not seeing those
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guys out there. You're seeing you know, no average to
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below average quarterback play.
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Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this all manifests,
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for sure. And folks, we are gonna take a quick break.
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But again we're talking to Zach Hicks from the Locked
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on Colts podcast. Great, great podcast. Subscribe on whatever podcast
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platform you are listening to us on, and you can
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also watch show on YouTube as well. Again, we're gonna
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take that quick break. We're gonna be back in just
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a bit with more Colts Talk. All right, we are
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back and we got more Colts Talk. Come in your
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way here on opposition territory. I have to say Zach
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is a Penn State fan.
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Right.
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As a Penn State fan, I cannot wait to see
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what Tyler Warren is able to do during his rookie
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season here in the NFL. But again, again that depends
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on who's gonna be throwing him the ball. How do
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you see Tyler Warren's impact on this team this season
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and well into the future. What are your thoughts here?
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Yeah, I think regardless of who the quarterback is gonna
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be this year. So much of what makes Tyler Warren
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great is the ability with the ball in his hands. Yeah,
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you know you want to get the ball in his
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hand because he is a bulldozer after the catch. He
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is an enforcer after the catch, and he's a guy
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who just like every time the ball touches hand, he's
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already in a running position to keep going. You know,
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he's going to create so many yards. I mean, you
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look at this Colts offense. The last couple of years,
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they were like in the bottom five, bottom ten. I
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think in the entire chance site in ten, you're so
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far in creating yards after the catch. Part of that
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is the quarterback, but the other part is just not
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having the playmakers that can make those things happen with
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the ball in their hands. So when you add a
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player like Tyler Warren who has all this great upside
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as just a legit pass catcher at all three levels,
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but especially in the short passing game, and Adam with
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a guy like Josh Downs who can create separation at will,
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I think you have a really really good potential for
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underneath passing that can again make things work. You don't
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have to have the Anthony Richardson averaged up the target
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fifteen yards down the field where you can throw a
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tight end screen to Tyler Warren and create those fifteen
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yards naturally, even the.
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Intermediary routes too, because Ryler Warren's fantastic on the intermediate routes.
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Yeah, I think we're going to see a lot of
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tight end options type stuff where like we need to
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get back in the play, We're going to get a
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little tight end option to Warrant and get him those six, seven,
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eight yards that he can create after the catch. I
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think he's just going to be really good for establishing
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rhythm with these quarterbacks this season, is helping them get
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into positive situations, getting into again third and manageable and
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make life easy for these quarterbacks. And then we're talking
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long term. I mean, this is this is a guy
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who took in the top fifteen of the draft at
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tight end. You know, you have to have the expectation
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of him being a Pro Bowl or even better type
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tight end, and I certainly think he can get there.
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I mean, I think when it comes to the draft,
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we really do over react to a lot of things,
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you know, where we micro yeah, we micro analyze these
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guys and say, like, Wow, he doesn't turn exactly the
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way I like, or he doesn't block the exact way
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I like, or his usage was a little weird. But
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sometimes guys are just dominant forces coming to the league.
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And I'm not saying Warren's going to be like George
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Kittle or like these tops tier tight ends. But I'm
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not saying he's not going to be that. This was
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the focal point of a Penn State who was a
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playoff type team. Yeah, this past year, he was a
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focal point of their offense. Everyone knew where the ball
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was going at all every minute of every game. And
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he still was able to put out just a fantastic
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season last year. And I think there's a lot of
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merit to that.
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So we got to wait and see how he develops.
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We do, right, you know, that's the name of the
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game in the NFL, you're a specific talent in college football,
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you get drafted by a team, you have to develop
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and it takes time. Sometimes you can't be just dominant
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right out of the gate, going from one level of
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play to another.
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Yeah, I think he's going to be a good player.
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I mean, he's got the right mindset, he's got the physicality,
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He's got a really good baseline to start out, where
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like worst case scenario, if he doesn't develop, he's still
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going to be a really good run after catch guy
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that you can use in the short passing game and
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a pretty good blocker. I think the blocking was a
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little overanalyzed in this draft cycle, and I think he
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can be a pretty good blocker in the NFL. So
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he's going to be a big impact this season, and
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then we'll see what happens at the quarterback position going forward,
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like if there's changes there and how big of an
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impact he's going to be with the future at that position.
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But I'm really excited for him. I think there's gonna
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be some fun packages with him. I think they're gonna
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use him at fullback sometimes this year as well. They're
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gonna use them, you know, wildcat quarterback. I don't think
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is off the table because we saw how much they
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did last year at Penn State. He's gonna be all
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over the formation in the Colts offense this year, and
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I think it's gonna be a fun season for him.
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He is an offensive talent for sure, and another gentleman
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who is certainly an offensive talent that is going to
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be critical to this Colts offense. Is Jonathan Taylor such
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a special talent as one of the premiere running backs
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in the National Football League, And I have a feeling
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a lot of this offense is going to be on
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his shoulder, Zach for much of this season. I mean,
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I think that's how a lot of us are seeing
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it on the outside of Colts Nation here at this point,
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How do you see the offense moving forward really in
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terms of balancing out the rushing attack and the passing
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attack and passing game this year? What are your thoughts here?
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Yeah, I think regardless of which quarterback they start, they're
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gonna have to have a good running game, you know,
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especially like Daniel Jones is out there his one like
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really successful season. They had like the fourth best rushing
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offense in football with the New York Giants se Kwon
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Barkley hitting thirteen hundred yards, hitting seven hundred yards that season.
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So for him to be that neutral to positive game
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flow quarterback for you, you're gonna need a Jonathan Taylor
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to be a just a really effective running back. But
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even with Anthony Richardson, you know, you don't want him
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backed up in third and fifteen, third and sixteen, like
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get that run game going, get into third and short,
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and then bring his legs into the equation on every
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single play. So he's gonna be just massive for keeping
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these quarterbacks in a rhythm, keeping them in situations that
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you want them in. But then just talking about Jonathan
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Taylor himself, you know, I do think he's lost a
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step compared to where he was in twenty twenty one.
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He's not the same like full speed, just monster that
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he was. But because his vision is so good, because
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his anticipation as a running back is so good, this
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is still like a top five to seven running back
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in the league. Like he is just so good at
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what he does. He can create yardage and it's not there,
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and he can make places happen. So regardless of which
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quarterback starts, they're gonna have a big influence of zone reads,
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read options, and pulling defenders out of the box. And
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that's where a player like Jonathan Taylor can really take
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advantage and make things happen. So I think the expectation
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for him is gonna be like twelve hundred plus yards
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this year. The way he finished last year was like
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seven hundred yards rushing in the final month of the season.
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Like he finishes so strong in December, and he you know,
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he gets out to pretty good starts as well. So
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as long as he can stay healthy throughout the year,
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keep his legs going with these two quarterbacks, I mean,
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he's he's a top tier running back in the league
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and just one of the best overall players that the
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Colts have had these last few years.
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Keep him in mind for fantasy football folks. He's definitely
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up there for sure. I know I'm gonna be targeting
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him within the first round or two in my fantasy leagues.
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But Zak I wanted to move over to the defensive
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side of the ball as well, because the Colts were
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ranked twenty ninth in total yards allowed last year. They
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were one of the worst defenses in the NFL. But
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I'm wondering, what are some of the key aspects of
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this defense that we really need to keep our eyes
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on as the season starts and as this defensive unit
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really looks to dramatically improve from last year's performance. What
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are your thoughts here?
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Yeah, the biggest thing is the change from a static
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defense to more of a dynamic defense. This year. So
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throughout all of Chris Ballard's tenure with the Colts, they
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have gone from Matt Eberflus, who is a Tampa two
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like just cover two Tampa two type of style guy,
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to Gus Bradley, who was at Seattle Cover three, where
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we're not changing too much pre and post snap. They
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know what we're going to do, We're going to do it.
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Our goal is to be as good in our technique
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as possible in limit players, limit offenses that way. Yeah,
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with Loui an Arumo, there is no one style with him.
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That's always been the calling card of Louanna Arumo is
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We're gonna shift pre and post snap. We're going to
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make things difficult for quarterbacks, keep their completion percentage down,
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keep their turnovers high, take the ball away, be a
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good passing defense, and go from there. It's kind of
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what we're seeing with like the Vic Fangio style of
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defense going around the league, is the more that you
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can do pre and post snap to confuse quarterbacks, the
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better your defense is going to be. And Ana Rumo
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was one of the guys at the beginning of this
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whole process. When the Bengals went to the Super Bowl
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a couple of years ago with him, So that's going
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to be the biggest change with this Coals defense is
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going from this very static, sit back We're going to
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be a good run defense. We're going to be a
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passive pass defense that comes up in tackles to now
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being a nickel based defense that we might struggle a
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bit in the run defense because we're going to always
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have just speed on the field, but our goal is
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to take away the ball in the passing game. Our
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goal is to limit those passing windows, make things difficult
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for quarterbacks, and just kind of create have it pre
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and post snap. So it's going to be a drastically
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different defense. But with the additions of Tarvarius Ward with
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Cameron Bidam coming in as well, they do have the
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dogs to run this type of system they're looking for,
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especially when you factor into Forrest Buckner All Pro, last
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year's Im Franklin at linebacker, and layout to Latu, a
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former top fifteen pick getting his second year with the team.
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So they have all the things you're looking for to
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be a good defense this year. It's about how well
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they adjust to this very new style they're bringing, how
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good the run defense can be and if any corner
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on this roster can stay healthy through training camp work. Right,
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Corners three through five have all gone down with injuries.
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Justin Wally, the guy they took in the third round
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is out for the year of the torn ACL. There
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are other two corners that were competing for the outside
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are out with hamstring injuries. So as long as that
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second outside corner spot can get somebody healthy in there,
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I think this can be a good defense. But I
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think there's a lot of good things on paper with
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this defense to at least be better than twenty nine.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely, Again, this is true basement talk right here. You
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can't fall out the basement window here when it comes
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to defense.
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Absolutely, it's going to be a better defense for sure.
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I don't look, I don't know what that ranking is
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going to be. We don't have a crystal ball, but
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I am sure just based on what you were just saying,
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the analysis of where the defensive line is going to be, linebackers,
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and if these corners can stay healthy, if the secondary
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can stay healthy, they're gonna be a lot better than
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they were in twenty twenty four. So Zach is where
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we are going to be ending our conversation here, I've
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been asking all our guests on our Opposition Territory podcasts
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every week a two part question about the team in
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terms of the biggest concern and what you're least concerned
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about in terms of the Colts heading into this twenty
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twenty five seasons. So let's first start off with your
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biggest concern for the team heading into this season. What
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would that be and why?
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Well, I think we have to say the quarterback position,
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all right, concern. It's just so volatile with these two
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guys back there. Where with Daniel Jones, you need everything
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to be perfect, to be like above average. You know,
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we saw with that Giants team. I know people make
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a lot of excuses for him with that Giants team
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when they made the playoffs, but aside from offensive line,
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had a great play caller, one of the best rushing
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attacks in football, one of the best teams that creating
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after the catch, and they were still nine to seven
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and one, and they want a playoff game against the
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paper Tiger and then they lost the next round after that.
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I think that's kind of the peak of what you're
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going to get out Daniel Jones, which is a fine
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quarterback to have, but that's not a franchise quarterback. Then
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you go to Anthony Richardson and from play to play,
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from down to down, the series of series, you have
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no clue what you're getting from him. You could be
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a seventy year or touchdown pass. It could be the
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worst pick six you've ever seen. So I think there's
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a legit concern there on like what these guys can
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be this year and how far this team can go
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with it, because again, the roster's pretty good. It's just
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can these quarterbacks elevate it or at least get it
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to where they need to be. And then when I
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would say least concern, man, I mean I guess kind
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of the pass catchers on offense and not really being
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started with them, Like when you add Tyler Warren, it
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was kind of like the missing piece, you know, because
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they had Josh Downs, who has like one hundred and
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fifty catches through two seasons with the Colts. Fantastic slot
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receiver Alec Pearce emerged as one the best deep threats
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in football last season average twenty two yards per catch, Yeah,
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which is insane. Michael Pittman Junior is healthy. Really good
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to see Ady Mitchell as this boomer bust, explosive receiver
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thread at number four behind them, and then you're throwing
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Tyler Warren in there, this do it all guy coming
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from the college game who was just awesome at Penn
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State and again an offense where everybody knew where the
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ball was going. Yes, I'm still produced last year. So
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I think just that passing game is like, if these
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quarterbacks can just get the ball to them, I think
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this can be a really good passing game. So I
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have a lot of hope and trust in these past catchers.
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It really just comes down to what can these quarterbacks
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look like and can they elevate this team past that.
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Jeff Fisher esques seven to eight wins that they've been
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the last couple of years.
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Again, folks, he is Zach Hicks from the Locked on
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Colts podcast. Check out everything they have going on. Search
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them out online again the Locked on Colts Podcast. Zach, Buddy,
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it was great talking to you. Thanks so much for
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taking the time to jump on here. Always great talking
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to you. Let's talk at some point down the road.
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I'd love to talk more ball with you, my friend.
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Yeah, when the cults are you know, at six and
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six late in the season, we'll definitely come back on
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and talk all about their mediocre team that they are.
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That's gonna do it for us here on Opposition Territory
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this week. Please share our podcast with your friends and
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Welcome to opposition territory. Here at the Philadelphia Sports Table
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podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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in the world, twelve years strong. We've got a great
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discussion coming your way with regard to the Indianapolis Colts.
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We've got a great guest. It has been some time
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since we have had him on, but it's good to
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talk ball with him. We've got Zach Hick. Zach, buddy,
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how are you, my friend?
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I'm doing all right, doing all right. I mean, I'm
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imagining you guys are doing a little bit better considering
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where you. You know, the shirt I'm seeing that you're wearing.
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Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I.
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Wish that was the team I was covering. But it's cool,
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it's cool. We love the Colts. Eventually, you'll get out
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of the base right exactly.
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You can't fall out of a basement window. The Colts
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are going to get back to some sort of respectability.
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And I use that in quotes at some point in
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the foreseeable future, I think, so I guess to get
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us started off here, Zach, you know it. I mean,
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it has been a while, of course since the Indianapolis
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Colts have been a real threat and contender in the AFC,
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And I do want to start off our conversation here
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with this team where they're going by just getting into
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how this organization is now being run of course Jim
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Mersey passing away this offseason, and really what the vision
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of this team and organization really is for the future.
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I mean, when you look at this recent off season
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and where the team and his team and organization really
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do want to go, how do you see the vision
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really manifesting itself for the Indianapolis Colts with regard to
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the team, the organization, and its growth for the future.
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Yeah, I would say as of right now, it still
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just kind of feels like like they're waiting for a
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hail Mary to hit in a way, because you know,
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you're in this really weird spot where you just took
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a quarterback in the top five of the draft a
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couple of years ago, and it hasn't been great for
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the couple of years that you've had them. But you
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don't really get that opportunity very often to have a
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quarterback that you draft that high, you know, so you
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have to like ride it out and just see what
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happens with it, and then if it crashes and burns.
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Then you start again. You do it again, because this
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is such a quarterback driven league, like even your team,
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the Philadelphia Eagles. Here, you guys have one of the
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best rosters in football, but you still had to have,
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you know, a top ten quarterback in the league to
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carry it to the promised Land. You know, you have
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to have that quarterback. And that's what you know. It
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brings hope, it brings promise, It brings everything that you're
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looking for with your team. And with this Colts team,
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you know, we can look through the roster and say, look,
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they got a good receiver room, all pro running back,
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pretty good offensive line with a future Hall of Famer
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at left guard. Defense gets Louis and Rumo, plus a
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couple of big name additions there on that side of them.
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But the end of the day, this thing is going
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to go as far as the quarterback is going to
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take them. Yeah, and when you're rolling out a former
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top five pick who just has not played up to
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the standard that you want him to play, even though
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you knew he was going to be a project, it
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still hasn't really gone the way that you expected. And
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then Daniel Jones, a guy who just got run out
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of the New York Giants, and he had some decent
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moments a couple of years ago, but he's still never
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probably going to be like a legit franchise guy. So
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it kind of just puts a dampener on everything that
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you're doing here where it's like you can look at
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all the processes and say, like, you know, we draft
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pretty well, we did some good things in free agency.
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on quarterback, it doesn't matter. And that's why they like
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it's hard to stay with the Colts because they're not
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a basement team. Like they're not a basement team. They
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are a just Jeff Fisher esque middle of the road team,
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and that's where they've been, right, I mean, they've been
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there since Andrew Luck retired and then they had the
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one season in twenty twenty two where they crashed out
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and just completely hit the bob. But besides that, they've
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been a fringe playoff team every single year. And that's
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almost worse than being a bottom feeder, because the bottom
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feeder you get chances to drag yourselves out. When you're
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in middle of the road team, you guys have to
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be perfect and get lucky at quarterback and they just
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haven't been lucky yet. And this is where we are
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with this team, So I don't know where the long
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term projection is here. Chris Bower is going on year
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nine with the team at general manager.
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Well, that's where I wanted to go next, to be
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honest with you, Zach, because you know, without Jim Mersay,
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they're anymore, you know, and you know feel bad for
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his family losing him. The guy struggled during the latter
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part of his years with a lot of different things,
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and I wonder if that vision is going to be
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there with regard to the front office, with regard to
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the you say new ownership, but I believe it's his daughters,
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Jim her Say's daughters who are really in charge of
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the organization and running it at this point in what
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the general manager and the guy who's really making the
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decisions after nine years, like, is it working? And I
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wonder where that vision is going to end up going
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or where he needs to be for the Colts really
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to get over that hump and become contenders.
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No, I completely agree, and I will say, with all
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due love and respect for Jim Irsay, one of his
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biggest faults as an owner was treating the Colts like
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a small business, like a local family, like mom and
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pop shop, where like there is this undying loyalty to everyone.
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Players get too long a leash, general managers get too
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long a leash head, coaches get too long a leege.
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Because he had that success in the early two thousands,
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so we always kept thinking, like everything I do is
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eventually will work out because I trust these people and
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I have respect for these people, and that can be
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a good thing in the NFL. Is actually a refreshing
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take on this cutthroat league that we have here. But
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sometimes you do need to make changes, and that's what
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we've seen the Colts struggle with over time, is making
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those like legit wholesale changes. It took them too long
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with Pegano and Grigson. It's taken him too long with Ballard,
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even the Frank Reich thing, when he moved down from
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Frank Reich, he went right back to someone he knew,
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which was Jeff Saturday, you know, like, which was a
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crazy situation that way crazy. Yeah, So with Jim he
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had his faults. My understanding with Carly Arsay, who is
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taking over as more of the football operations side is
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she's been getting ready for this since she was in
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her early twenties. You know, she's been working in different
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aspects of the NFL, of the Colts. She's been the
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head of the team a couple times when Jim was
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going through some of his issues, and she's ready for this.
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And my understanding is she's a little bit more cutthroat
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than Jim. You know, she's going to view this more
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as a business not you know, it's not like a
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business thing where she's not going to be investing in
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this because with the Colts, this is where they make
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their money is with the team. They don't have side
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businesses like a lot of other owners, so they are
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fully invested emotionally, physically, everything in this team. But I
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do think she's going to be a little bit more
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cutthroat than Jim. Where Jim it was such a like
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buddy buddy thing with everybody. Carly, from my understanding, is
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really taking this season serious, seeing what's gonna be on
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the field with Chris Ballard, Shane Styke and Anthony Richardson.
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And if she has to make a move, I certainly
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think she will. But she's a really smart football. Mind,
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I haven't had the chance to talk to her yet,
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but I'm really excited for her tenure as the owner,
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the small business type of Gimmer say, Everyone's getting a
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long leash, where Carly comes in and does kind of
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change things and is a little bit stricter with wanting results.
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be great to actually hear that. Absolutely, And I'd be remiss,
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folks if I didn't say where Zach Hicks here is
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from the Locked On Colts podcast. I completely forgot that
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right off the bat, So yes, Zach is from the
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Locked On Colts podcast. You know, we love our locked
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on Eagles, Locked On Jaguars, Locked on Falcons. We've had
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various guests on from the locked On network here and Zach,
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let everybody know where they can find you online if
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they want to follow you on social so they can
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hear what you're talking about.
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Yeah, on socials, it's like at Zach Hicks two across
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our next topic here because the quarterback position is so
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important for where this team is going to go. As
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you were mentioning, Zach, I mean, there's definitely some uncertainty
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here with this position arguably one of the most important
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in the NFL, even in sports, whether it's this battle
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we're seeing in camp between Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones. So
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I'm wondering, first, how are you looking at this quarterback
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battle here during camp? Then I got a follow up
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question for you after that. So how are things going
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here in camp with regard to the quarterback talent?
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when it comes to these two quarterbacks, where you know,
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Richardson's still so young to where you're gonna see this
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incremental progress yeah from him.
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big jump. But I think we have seen incremental progress
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in terms of the mechanics getting better, in terms of
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the field position getting a little bit better. But I'm
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not sure if that's still where it needs to be
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for this team to be a playoff team right this year.
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That's why you bring in a guy like Daniel Jones,
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where the way I've been describing on the podcast is like,
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on a scale of one to ten, he's gonna be
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consistently a five. You're just gonna consistently get that middle
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of the road, that baseline quarterback every single day. It's
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going to take take a lot of checkdowns the ball
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is going to get out of his hand pretty quick,
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and he's not going to do anything flashy or spectacular,
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but he can move your offense in neutral to positive situations.
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can get him into second and two, second and three,
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where you have that run pass option at all times,
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then he can be an effective NFL quarterback. And that's
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kind of where we're at with these guys where you
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have to really see if the Colts want to pick
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between more of the game manager, the just guy who's
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going to run your offense and not really do much else,
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and maybe that can get you to your eight nine
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ten wins, or you go boom or bust with Anthony Richardson,
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this young player that you've invested in, this player that
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you took really high, and go boom or bust where
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you might win five games with him, but if it
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clicks for him like it did for so many of
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these raw quarterbacks, you could be a team that can
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actually throw some punches in the AFC. So I think
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it's more of an easy decision for us sitting at home,
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where it's like, look, boom bust is positive regardless, right
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because we win twelve thirteen games, or we win four
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or five, and we're gonna be in a good situation
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there where the worst case is you start Daniel Jones
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and win seven or eight middle of the road, starting
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over with the middle of the road. But when you
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are a bunch of people fighting for their jobs, a
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bunch of people fighting for their jobs on the roster,
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sometimes that that bare minimum is pretty good to have.
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performed in camp, it is kind of giving what we expected.
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I do kind of grade both them on a curve
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where like Richardson, you want to see the little things
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being done, you want to see him act more like
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a professional quarterback in terms of taking the checkdowns, where
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Daniel Jones you want to see more of the big plays.
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down the field. And that's a difficult concept for some
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people to grasp, is grading two players on different curves,
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from them to take that next step. So you know,
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I just don't think it's been like stellar. Again, Yeah,
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you're not seeing Josh Allen out there. You're not seeing
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Malmes out there. Dalen hurts like you're not seeing those
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guys out there. You're seeing you know, no average to
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below average quarterback play.
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for sure. And folks, we are gonna take a quick break.
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But again we're talking to Zach Hicks from the Locked
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on Colts podcast. Great, great podcast. Subscribe on whatever podcast
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platform you are listening to us on, and you can
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take that quick break. We're gonna be back in just
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a bit with more Colts Talk. All right, we are
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back and we got more Colts Talk. Come in your
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way here on opposition territory. I have to say Zach
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is a Penn State fan.
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As a Penn State fan, I cannot wait to see
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what Tyler Warren is able to do during his rookie
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season here in the NFL. But again, again that depends
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on who's gonna be throwing him the ball. How do
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you see Tyler Warren's impact on this team this season
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and well into the future. What are your thoughts here?
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be this year. So much of what makes Tyler Warren
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great is the ability with the ball in his hands. Yeah,
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you know you want to get the ball in his
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hand because he is a bulldozer after the catch. He
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is an enforcer after the catch, and he's a guy
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who just like every time the ball touches hand, he's
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already in a running position to keep going. You know,
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he's going to create so many yards. I mean, you
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look at this Colts offense. The last couple of years,
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they were like in the bottom five, bottom ten. I
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think in the entire chance site in ten, you're so
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far in creating yards after the catch. Part of that
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is the quarterback, but the other part is just not
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having the playmakers that can make those things happen with
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the ball in their hands. So when you add a
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player like Tyler Warren who has all this great upside
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as just a legit pass catcher at all three levels,
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but especially in the short passing game, and Adam with
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a guy like Josh Downs who can create separation at will,
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I think you have a really really good potential for
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underneath passing that can again make things work. You don't
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have to have the Anthony Richardson averaged up the target
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fifteen yards down the field where you can throw a
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tight end screen to Tyler Warren and create those fifteen
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yards naturally, even the.
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Intermediary routes too, because Ryler Warren's fantastic on the intermediate routes.
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tight end options type stuff where like we need to
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get back in the play, We're going to get a
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little tight end option to Warrant and get him those six, seven,
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eight yards that he can create after the catch. I
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think he's just going to be really good for establishing
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rhythm with these quarterbacks this season, is helping them get
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into positive situations, getting into again third and manageable and
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make life easy for these quarterbacks. And then we're talking
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long term. I mean, this is this is a guy
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who took in the top fifteen of the draft at
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tight end. You know, you have to have the expectation
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of him being a Pro Bowl or even better type
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tight end, and I certainly think he can get there.
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I mean, I think when it comes to the draft,
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we really do over react to a lot of things,
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you know, where we micro yeah, we micro analyze these
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guys and say, like, Wow, he doesn't turn exactly the
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way I like, or he doesn't block the exact way
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I like, or his usage was a little weird. But
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sometimes guys are just dominant forces coming to the league.
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And I'm not saying Warren's going to be like George
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Kittle or like these tops tier tight ends. But I'm
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not saying he's not going to be that. This was
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the focal point of a Penn State who was a
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playoff type team. Yeah, this past year, he was a
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focal point of their offense. Everyone knew where the ball
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was going at all every minute of every game. And
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he still was able to put out just a fantastic
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season last year. And I think there's a lot of
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merit to that.
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So we got to wait and see how he develops.
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We do, right, you know, that's the name of the
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game in the NFL, you're a specific talent in college football,
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you get drafted by a team, you have to develop
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and it takes time. Sometimes you can't be just dominant
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right out of the gate, going from one level of
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play to another.
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Yeah, I think he's going to be a good player.
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I mean, he's got the right mindset, he's got the physicality,
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He's got a really good baseline to start out, where
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like worst case scenario, if he doesn't develop, he's still
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going to be a really good run after catch guy
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that you can use in the short passing game and
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a pretty good blocker. I think the blocking was a
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little overanalyzed in this draft cycle, and I think he
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can be a pretty good blocker in the NFL. So
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he's going to be a big impact this season, and
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then we'll see what happens at the quarterback position going forward,
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like if there's changes there and how big of an
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impact he's going to be with the future at that position.
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But I'm really excited for him. I think there's gonna
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be some fun packages with him. I think they're gonna
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use him at fullback sometimes this year as well. They're
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gonna use them, you know, wildcat quarterback. I don't think
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is off the table because we saw how much they
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did last year at Penn State. He's gonna be all
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over the formation in the Colts offense this year, and
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I think it's gonna be a fun season for him.
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He is an offensive talent for sure, and another gentleman
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who is certainly an offensive talent that is going to
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be critical to this Colts offense. Is Jonathan Taylor such
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a special talent as one of the premiere running backs
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in the National Football League, And I have a feeling
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a lot of this offense is going to be on
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his shoulder, Zach for much of this season. I mean,
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I think that's how a lot of us are seeing
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it on the outside of Colts Nation here at this point,
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How do you see the offense moving forward really in
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terms of balancing out the rushing attack and the passing
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attack and passing game this year? What are your thoughts here?
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Yeah, I think regardless of which quarterback they start, they're
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gonna have to have a good running game, you know,
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especially like Daniel Jones is out there his one like
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really successful season. They had like the fourth best rushing
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offense in football with the New York Giants se Kwon
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Barkley hitting thirteen hundred yards, hitting seven hundred yards that season.
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So for him to be that neutral to positive game
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flow quarterback for you, you're gonna need a Jonathan Taylor
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to be a just a really effective running back. But
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even with Anthony Richardson, you know, you don't want him
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backed up in third and fifteen, third and sixteen, like
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get that run game going, get into third and short,
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and then bring his legs into the equation on every
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single play. So he's gonna be just massive for keeping
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these quarterbacks in a rhythm, keeping them in situations that
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you want them in. But then just talking about Jonathan
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Taylor himself, you know, I do think he's lost a
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step compared to where he was in twenty twenty one.
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He's not the same like full speed, just monster that
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he was. But because his vision is so good, because
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his anticipation as a running back is so good, this
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is still like a top five to seven running back
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in the league. Like he is just so good at
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what he does. He can create yardage and it's not there,
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and he can make places happen. So regardless of which
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quarterback starts, they're gonna have a big influence of zone reads,
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read options, and pulling defenders out of the box. And
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that's where a player like Jonathan Taylor can really take
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advantage and make things happen. So I think the expectation
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for him is gonna be like twelve hundred plus yards
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this year. The way he finished last year was like
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seven hundred yards rushing in the final month of the season.
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Like he finishes so strong in December, and he you know,
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he gets out to pretty good starts as well. So
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as long as he can stay healthy throughout the year,
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keep his legs going with these two quarterbacks, I mean,
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he's he's a top tier running back in the league
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and just one of the best overall players that the
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Colts have had these last few years.
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Keep him in mind for fantasy football folks. He's definitely
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up there for sure. I know I'm gonna be targeting
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him within the first round or two in my fantasy leagues.
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But Zak I wanted to move over to the defensive
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side of the ball as well, because the Colts were
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ranked twenty ninth in total yards allowed last year. They
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were one of the worst defenses in the NFL. But
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I'm wondering, what are some of the key aspects of
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this defense that we really need to keep our eyes
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on as the season starts and as this defensive unit
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really looks to dramatically improve from last year's performance. What
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are your thoughts here?
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Yeah, the biggest thing is the change from a static
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defense to more of a dynamic defense. This year. So
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throughout all of Chris Ballard's tenure with the Colts, they
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have gone from Matt Eberflus, who is a Tampa two
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like just cover two Tampa two type of style guy,
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to Gus Bradley, who was at Seattle Cover three, where
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we're not changing too much pre and post snap. They
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know what we're going to do, We're going to do it.
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Our goal is to be as good in our technique
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as possible in limit players, limit offenses that way. Yeah,
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with Loui an Arumo, there is no one style with him.
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That's always been the calling card of Louanna Arumo is
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We're gonna shift pre and post snap. We're going to
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make things difficult for quarterbacks, keep their completion percentage down,
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keep their turnovers high, take the ball away, be a
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good passing defense, and go from there. It's kind of
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what we're seeing with like the Vic Fangio style of
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defense going around the league, is the more that you
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can do pre and post snap to confuse quarterbacks, the
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better your defense is going to be. And Ana Rumo
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was one of the guys at the beginning of this
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whole process. When the Bengals went to the Super Bowl
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a couple of years ago with him, So that's going
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to be the biggest change with this Coals defense is
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going from this very static, sit back We're going to
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be a good run defense. We're going to be a
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passive pass defense that comes up in tackles to now
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being a nickel based defense that we might struggle a
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bit in the run defense because we're going to always
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have just speed on the field, but our goal is
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to take away the ball in the passing game. Our
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goal is to limit those passing windows, make things difficult
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for quarterbacks, and just kind of create have it pre
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and post snap. So it's going to be a drastically
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different defense. But with the additions of Tarvarius Ward with
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Cameron Bidam coming in as well, they do have the
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dogs to run this type of system they're looking for,
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especially when you factor into Forrest Buckner All Pro, last
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year's Im Franklin at linebacker, and layout to Latu, a
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former top fifteen pick getting his second year with the team.
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So they have all the things you're looking for to
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be a good defense this year. It's about how well
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they adjust to this very new style they're bringing, how
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good the run defense can be and if any corner
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on this roster can stay healthy through training camp work. Right,
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Corners three through five have all gone down with injuries.
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Justin Wally, the guy they took in the third round
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is out for the year of the torn ACL. There
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are other two corners that were competing for the outside
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are out with hamstring injuries. So as long as that
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second outside corner spot can get somebody healthy in there,
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I think this can be a good defense. But I
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think there's a lot of good things on paper with
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this defense to at least be better than twenty nine.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely, Again, this is true basement talk right here. You
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can't fall out the basement window here when it comes
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to defense.
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Absolutely, it's going to be a better defense for sure.
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I don't look, I don't know what that ranking is
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going to be. We don't have a crystal ball, but
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I am sure just based on what you were just saying,
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the analysis of where the defensive line is going to be, linebackers,
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and if these corners can stay healthy, if the secondary
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can stay healthy, they're gonna be a lot better than
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they were in twenty twenty four. So Zach is where
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we are going to be ending our conversation here, I've
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been asking all our guests on our Opposition Territory podcasts
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every week a two part question about the team in
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terms of the biggest concern and what you're least concerned
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about in terms of the Colts heading into this twenty
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twenty five seasons. So let's first start off with your
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biggest concern for the team heading into this season. What
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would that be and why?
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Well, I think we have to say the quarterback position,
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all right, concern. It's just so volatile with these two
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guys back there. Where with Daniel Jones, you need everything
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to be perfect, to be like above average. You know,
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we saw with that Giants team. I know people make
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a lot of excuses for him with that Giants team
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when they made the playoffs, but aside from offensive line,
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had a great play caller, one of the best rushing
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attacks in football, one of the best teams that creating
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after the catch, and they were still nine to seven
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and one, and they want a playoff game against the
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paper Tiger and then they lost the next round after that.
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I think that's kind of the peak of what you're
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going to get out Daniel Jones, which is a fine
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quarterback to have, but that's not a franchise quarterback. Then
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you go to Anthony Richardson and from play to play,
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from down to down, the series of series, you have
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no clue what you're getting from him. You could be
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a seventy year or touchdown pass. It could be the
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worst pick six you've ever seen. So I think there's
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a legit concern there on like what these guys can
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be this year and how far this team can go
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with it, because again, the roster's pretty good. It's just
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can these quarterbacks elevate it or at least get it
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to where they need to be. And then when I
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would say least concern, man, I mean I guess kind
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of the pass catchers on offense and not really being
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started with them, Like when you add Tyler Warren, it
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was kind of like the missing piece, you know, because
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they had Josh Downs, who has like one hundred and
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fifty catches through two seasons with the Colts. Fantastic slot
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receiver Alec Pearce emerged as one the best deep threats
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in football last season average twenty two yards per catch, Yeah,
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which is insane. Michael Pittman Junior is healthy. Really good
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to see Ady Mitchell as this boomer bust, explosive receiver
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thread at number four behind them, and then you're throwing
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Tyler Warren in there, this do it all guy coming
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from the college game who was just awesome at Penn
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State and again an offense where everybody knew where the
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ball was going. Yes, I'm still produced last year. So
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I think just that passing game is like, if these
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quarterbacks can just get the ball to them, I think
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this can be a really good passing game. So I
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have a lot of hope and trust in these past catchers.
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It really just comes down to what can these quarterbacks
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look like and can they elevate this team past that.
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Jeff Fisher esques seven to eight wins that they've been
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the last couple of years.
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Again, folks, he is Zach Hicks from the Locked on
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Colts podcast. Check out everything they have going on. Search
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them out online again the Locked on Colts Podcast. Zach, Buddy,
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it was great talking to you. Thanks so much for
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taking the time to jump on here. Always great talking
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to you. Let's talk at some point down the road.
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I'd love to talk more ball with you, my friend.
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Yeah, when the cults are you know, at six and
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six late in the season, we'll definitely come back on
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and talk all about their mediocre team that they are.
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That's gonna do it for us here on Opposition Territory
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this week. Please share our podcast with your friends and
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