ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Recorded October 12, 2026. Matt Carey from Cloudflare joins Dillon, Rhys, and Sunil as Code Mode turns one year old. We discuss where it came from, how it actually works, and what comes after it. Rhys explains Claude modding video games + the dead internet of Facebook Marketplace, Dillon describes the AI moment for normies, and Matt tells a story about a big defense contractor.
LINKS / ON-SCREEN REFERENCES, IN ORDER
LIFE UPDATES
Dillon, Artifacts open beta https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105647446789374456
Rhys, Claude gave Inertial Drift custom servers + maps https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2106604353058697699
Rhys, Inertial Drift first-person mode https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109689736860475597
PC Gamer, reskate modding platform https://www.pcgamer.com/games/sports/reskate-modding-platform-released/
Rhys, Muse lists a broken lamp https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109042678205976921
CODE MODE
Cloudflare, "Code Mode: the better way to use MCP" https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode/
Rhys, bash took 30 years, MCP was vibe coded in a weekend https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109096851647721782
CodeAct (Apple) https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/codeact
Matt, "Code Mode: give agents an entire API in 1,000 tokens" https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode-mcp/
Pi https://pi.dev
OpenCode 2.0 https://x.com/opencode/status/2109680780779606057
Dillon, Code Mode + Jev in Pi https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105453668266873091
TypeSafe, Jev https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev
QuickJS https://bellard.org/quickjs/
Cloudflare Computer https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-computer
Vercel Run SDK https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-run
Callscript https://github.com/vercel-labs/callscript
WHAT'S NEXT AFTER CODE MODE?
Kent C. Dodds, Kody https://kentcdodds.com/blog/introducing-kody-your-personal-software-factory
Rhys, Executor v2 Gmail with a 5-minute cancel https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2108317018948792730
Max Stoiber, MCP Events in ChatGPT https://x.com/mxstbr/status/2105094948458803513
Unikernel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unikernel
Rhys, company brain with Jev https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2108586246855643293
Cap'n Web https://blog.cloudflare.com/capnweb-javascript-rpc-library/
Kenton Varda, Cloudflare OS https://x.com/KentonVarda/status/2084990137180590572
THE AI MOMENT FOR NORMIES
Instinct https://instinct.com/
Olivia Levine, Instinct and the jumbotron https://x.com/oliviaalevine/status/2095705075633000815
Rhys, "the Slop Superhighway" https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2106488797638861123
Rhys on Figma's MCP restrictions https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2105315738982686899
Matt's AI Engineer talk, "MCP is middleware" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBYUvGOuotE&t=1251s
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HOSTS + GUEST
Dillon Mulroy - https://x.com/dillon_mulroy - https://dillonis.online/ - https://twitch.tv/dillon
Rhys Sullivan - https://x.com/RhysSullivan - https://rhys.dev/ - https://executor.sh/
Sunil Pai - https://x.com/threepointone - https://sunilpai.dev/
Guest: Matt Carey - https://x.com/mattzcarey
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