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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Muster. Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden. He wraps the week here on the show. Good afternoon, Nathan.
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Speaker 2: G'day, mate. How are you? You surviving this weather?
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Speaker 1: Got the heat pumps going in the studio. First world problems, but it's been pretty nippy today. I think it's a high of like eight or nine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the mail's been coming in sideways, but I think things are going to pick up for the weekend, which is great, isn't it? Because there's plenty on the calendar to get through.
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Speaker 1: Straight off the bat, though, the SBS Tour of Southland gets underway on Sunday, second one for the year. What does it mean having the same event twice in the one calendar year, though? That's different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is different. It's certainly been a challenge for Race Director Wayne Harding and a small but really hard-working committee. that put this race together. Probably the biggest challenge, I guess, is on that hard-working volunteer base that are the heart and soul of the race, the people that set up the finish lines and pack it all up at the end of the day that stand on the corners with a flag and all sorts of weather and that sort of thing and do 100 other roles during the week. So asking them to come out twice in one year is a big ask. Take taking time off from their busy lives to contribute to this race. But there's so many people that love this event that, you know, they show up year after year. So, you know, it was great to see them. They came together for a meeting last night and, yeah, it was great to see those faces again and everyone sort of primed for a big week next week.
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Speaker 1: You'll be following it yet again?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be my 27th SBS Bank Tour of Southland, so... Looking forward to things getting underway on Sunday. And as you say, this is the 70th edition, so it's a pretty special one, the old platinum anniversary. So I think there's something like 16 past winners coming down as part of the celebrations, including the likes of 1960 winner Gary Ulmer, who's now 90. And I think it just sort of speaks to just what a special place or a special part of New Zealand sport this race is that, you know, people are willing to travel from all over to come down and sort of rehash those memories and have a bit of a reunion. So it's going to be a pretty special week.
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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say this is the premier cycling event for New Zealand on a road racing sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, these days, unfortunately, we've had the demise of the New Zealand Cycling Classic in the North Island, and that was a UCI-ranked race recently. The Tour has been a UCI-ranked race in the past, but these days you'd go a long way in Australasia to find a multi-day stage race. This is really it. There's quite a competitive national series over in Australia, but that's more a three-day race sort of situation. I think we can see when we look at the peloton for this year, we've got something like 23 Australians who are coming over to test themselves over here, so You combine sort of the heavy chip on the roads, the weather, the fact that it's seven days of hard racing, the best young developing riders from across New Zealand throwing a bunch of Aussies, a couple of Dutchies. There's a Swiss rider there. It's going to be a heck of a week.
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Speaker 1: Club cricket gets underway tomorrow, as does all the summer sports. Apparently it is summertime. We're getting close to it, even if the weather tells us otherwise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, cricket before Christmas is always a bit touch and go, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: I think sport in general at the moment before Christmas, you lose that much of it due to the weather.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, touch has been, excuse the pun, touch has been touch and go, hasn't it? But yeah, club cricket is interesting to go onto social media and see some of the hardy old annuals. The likes of Clint Goad, who's played 250-odd games for Appleby, some of these old stages, and then some of the new blood coming through too, so I always take my hat off to the people who are willing to put aside five or six hours on a Saturday afternoon to go out and represent their clubs. So, yeah, hopefully they all have a great summer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I'm going to read a quote out from Phil Gould on social media. Now, Phil writes... I was lucky enough to attend a border medal event, and as part of the evening they showed a video asking current Test players what was their biggest achievement as a junior player. It was around the era of the early, mid-2000s. Matthew Hayden said he scored 200 one Saturday morning. Brett Lee said as a 14-year-old he got six wickets and an over. So then they asked Ricky Ponting, the great Ricky Ponting, He thought for a moment, then replied, nothing significant comes to mind. Although between the age of 11 and 14, I never got out. So for three years as a kid, Ricky Ponting couldn't get out, never got out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty impressive, isn't it? And you'd imagine, I mean, Australian cricket being what Australian cricket is, he was probably playing against some pretty.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. It would be ruthless even at that age. Imagine the champs going out there all over the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I did meet Ricky Ponting a few years ago, lining up for an ice cream at the New Zealand Open. Managed to have a wee yarn. Yeah, he's a good guy, actually, for an Australian cricketer.
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Speaker 1: I suppose so, and that's the thing. You only see them through the media, and what you see is just the surface. But, I mean, it's like this Indian cricket team being over here. We've talked about this before as well, Nath. They're over here, they're anonymous, and they can go about their business. And if you do go and see them, it's only just for a very polite conversation. But a lot of the time, they're just left to their vices.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they must absolutely love it. You know, we caught up with Jake Duffy not long after his IPL season debut when he came back from winning that IPL title. And it was hard to sort of get your head around sort of that lifestyle of basically being, you know, even as a New Zealander rookie in that competition, sort of almost being confined to your hotel, you know, it was a real challenge to get out and sort of not be bombarded by the public who just, you know, they treat these people like gods. So, yeah, as, you know, these superstars of Indian cricket, it's a different sort of lifestyle. So they must love it when they come over here. It is good to see. I think, you know, I've actually enjoyed probably the camaraderie or the, They've obviously been playing this T20 series really hard, but it is good to see the players. I guess a lot of these guys are teammates, aren't they?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all around the world in franchise cricket.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And no one really wants to be thought of as a dick, do they? There seems to be a good balance, I think, that the players seem to be able to sort of get on well on the park but still play some good hard cricket.
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Speaker 1: Just quickly to wrap up, what do you make of Otago being in line with the Highlanders as all five franchises in the major cities are now? So the NPC team at Waikato, they've gone with the Chiefs, Auckland with the Blues, Canes with Wellington, etc.
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Speaker 2: You all, at first, it was hard to see it as a positive. I mean, it was how things were, and they were changed for a reason. They were changed because it wasn't working that well, and it was thought that it was going to be better to have a separation between NPC and the franchise situation. So we understand why they're going back to that. They need to save some money somehow. They've got to save 20 mil at least a year. They're not changing those competitions, so... they've probably ticked the hard conversations down the road but hopefully maybe they've learnt from what the barriers were from last time and they'll be able to do a better job of it this time around Good.
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Speaker 1: On you Nath, all the best to the tour next week we'll catch up and keep dibs on what's going on, hopefully the weather plays its part and it's challenging for them Absolutely, thanks mate Laugh out loud with Ag Proud, because life on the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by Shearwell Data, working to help the livestock farmer. My granddad has the heart of a lion, but unfortunately a lifetime ban from the zoo. That's us over and done with the best of the must of 5am tomorrow morning. Thanks to the Gopher. I'm Andy Muir. The podcast for today going up shortly and all interviews from previous days and shows are up there as well. The show's brought to you, of course, by Peter's Genetics. Enjoy the weekend. Black Caps, T20 tonight against India at Eden Park. If you're tied up in front of the couch, have a watch. See you Monday.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Muster. Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden. He wraps the week here on the show. Good afternoon, Nathan.
00:00:14
Speaker 2: G'day, mate. How are you? You surviving this weather?
00:00:18
Speaker 1: Got the heat pumps going in the studio. First world problems, but it's been pretty nippy today. I think it's a high of like eight or nine.
00:00:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mail's been coming in sideways, but I think things are going to pick up for the weekend, which is great, isn't it? Because there's plenty on the calendar to get through.
00:00:33
Speaker 1: Straight off the bat, though, the SBS Tour of Southland gets underway on Sunday, second one for the year. What does it mean having the same event twice in the one calendar year, though? That's different.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is different. It's certainly been a challenge for Race Director Wayne Harding and a small but really hard-working committee. that put this race together. Probably the biggest challenge, I guess, is on that hard-working volunteer base that are the heart and soul of the race, the people that set up the finish lines and pack it all up at the end of the day that stand on the corners with a flag and all sorts of weather and that sort of thing and do 100 other roles during the week. So asking them to come out twice in one year is a big ask. Take taking time off from their busy lives to contribute to this race. But there's so many people that love this event that, you know, they show up year after year. So, you know, it was great to see them. They came together for a meeting last night and, yeah, it was great to see those faces again and everyone sort of primed for a big week next week.
00:01:42
Speaker 1: You'll be following it yet again?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be my 27th SBS Bank Tour of Southland, so... Looking forward to things getting underway on Sunday. And as you say, this is the 70th edition, so it's a pretty special one, the old platinum anniversary. So I think there's something like 16 past winners coming down as part of the celebrations, including the likes of 1960 winner Gary Ulmer, who's now 90. And I think it just sort of speaks to just what a special place or a special part of New Zealand sport this race is that, you know, people are willing to travel from all over to come down and sort of rehash those memories and have a bit of a reunion. So it's going to be a pretty special week.
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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say this is the premier cycling event for New Zealand on a road racing sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, these days, unfortunately, we've had the demise of the New Zealand Cycling Classic in the North Island, and that was a UCI-ranked race recently. The Tour has been a UCI-ranked race in the past, but these days you'd go a long way in Australasia to find a multi-day stage race. This is really it. There's quite a competitive national series over in Australia, but that's more a three-day race sort of situation. I think we can see when we look at the peloton for this year, we've got something like 23 Australians who are coming over to test themselves over here, so You combine sort of the heavy chip on the roads, the weather, the fact that it's seven days of hard racing, the best young developing riders from across New Zealand throwing a bunch of Aussies, a couple of Dutchies. There's a Swiss rider there. It's going to be a heck of a week.
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Speaker 1: Club cricket gets underway tomorrow, as does all the summer sports. Apparently it is summertime. We're getting close to it, even if the weather tells us otherwise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, cricket before Christmas is always a bit touch and go, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: I think sport in general at the moment before Christmas, you lose that much of it due to the weather.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, touch has been, excuse the pun, touch has been touch and go, hasn't it? But yeah, club cricket is interesting to go onto social media and see some of the hardy old annuals. The likes of Clint Goad, who's played 250-odd games for Appleby, some of these old stages, and then some of the new blood coming through too, so I always take my hat off to the people who are willing to put aside five or six hours on a Saturday afternoon to go out and represent their clubs. So, yeah, hopefully they all have a great summer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I'm going to read a quote out from Phil Gould on social media. Now, Phil writes... I was lucky enough to attend a border medal event, and as part of the evening they showed a video asking current Test players what was their biggest achievement as a junior player. It was around the era of the early, mid-2000s. Matthew Hayden said he scored 200 one Saturday morning. Brett Lee said as a 14-year-old he got six wickets and an over. So then they asked Ricky Ponting, the great Ricky Ponting, He thought for a moment, then replied, nothing significant comes to mind. Although between the age of 11 and 14, I never got out. So for three years as a kid, Ricky Ponting couldn't get out, never got out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty impressive, isn't it? And you'd imagine, I mean, Australian cricket being what Australian cricket is, he was probably playing against some pretty.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. It would be ruthless even at that age. Imagine the champs going out there all over the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I did meet Ricky Ponting a few years ago, lining up for an ice cream at the New Zealand Open. Managed to have a wee yarn. Yeah, he's a good guy, actually, for an Australian cricketer.
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Speaker 1: I suppose so, and that's the thing. You only see them through the media, and what you see is just the surface. But, I mean, it's like this Indian cricket team being over here. We've talked about this before as well, Nath. They're over here, they're anonymous, and they can go about their business. And if you do go and see them, it's only just for a very polite conversation. But a lot of the time, they're just left to their vices.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they must absolutely love it. You know, we caught up with Jake Duffy not long after his IPL season debut when he came back from winning that IPL title. And it was hard to sort of get your head around sort of that lifestyle of basically being, you know, even as a New Zealander rookie in that competition, sort of almost being confined to your hotel, you know, it was a real challenge to get out and sort of not be bombarded by the public who just, you know, they treat these people like gods. So, yeah, as, you know, these superstars of Indian cricket, it's a different sort of lifestyle. So they must love it when they come over here. It is good to see. I think, you know, I've actually enjoyed probably the camaraderie or the, They've obviously been playing this T20 series really hard, but it is good to see the players. I guess a lot of these guys are teammates, aren't they?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all around the world in franchise cricket.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And no one really wants to be thought of as a dick, do they? There seems to be a good balance, I think, that the players seem to be able to sort of get on well on the park but still play some good hard cricket.
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Speaker 1: Just quickly to wrap up, what do you make of Otago being in line with the Highlanders as all five franchises in the major cities are now? So the NPC team at Waikato, they've gone with the Chiefs, Auckland with the Blues, Canes with Wellington, etc.
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Speaker 2: You all, at first, it was hard to see it as a positive. I mean, it was how things were, and they were changed for a reason. They were changed because it wasn't working that well, and it was thought that it was going to be better to have a separation between NPC and the franchise situation. So we understand why they're going back to that. They need to save some money somehow. They've got to save 20 mil at least a year. They're not changing those competitions, so... they've probably ticked the hard conversations down the road but hopefully maybe they've learnt from what the barriers were from last time and they'll be able to do a better job of it this time around Good.
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Speaker 1: On you Nath, all the best to the tour next week we'll catch up and keep dibs on what's going on, hopefully the weather plays its part and it's challenging for them Absolutely, thanks mate Laugh out loud with Ag Proud, because life on the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by Shearwell Data, working to help the livestock farmer. My granddad has the heart of a lion, but unfortunately a lifetime ban from the zoo. That's us over and done with the best of the must of 5am tomorrow morning. Thanks to the Gopher. I'm Andy Muir. The podcast for today going up shortly and all interviews from previous days and shows are up there as well. The show's brought to you, of course, by Peter's Genetics. Enjoy the weekend. Black Caps, T20 tonight against India at Eden Park. If you're tied up in front of the couch, have a watch. See you Monday.