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Welcome to the Miracle Path Podcast.
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I am Julie, your co-host here with my wonderful co-host Kylie.
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And we are back again with such a special episode.
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We have such a special guest today.
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And I'm just I'm giddy with excitement about today's conversation, about what we're gonna get into.
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Um, so thank you for joining us.
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And I will go ahead and introduce our guest.
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Her name is Lori Ladd.
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Lori is an international best-selling author and spiritual teacher specializing in the evolution of human consciousness.
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Her teachings and her guidance have helped millions of people navigate the current planetary shifts and remember the divine design held within the human experience.
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She's currently focused on bringing in unique awareness to the power and the gifts of Jesus at a time when humanity is awakening from the spiritual battle.
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In 2022, Lori published her first book, The Divine Design, which has become an international bestseller published in multiple countries.
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Currently, Lori is completing her second book, Jesus Speaks, bringing people into a unique awareness and understanding of Jesus during humanity's current shift in consciousness.
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Wow, what an introduction, Lori.
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Thank you so much for joining us on our podcast.
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Thanks, ladies.
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I'm excited to be here.
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Grateful to be here.
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We're so happy you're here.
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It's so cool because I um I got introduced to your channel on Instagram like a year and a half ago, or maybe two years, but it was from uh Michaela with two sober girls.
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And she was like, Hey, I think Lori is um is gonna be really helpful on your spiritual spiritual journey, and you have been.
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So I just want to thank you for your work.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And before we get started, um, I just want to encourage our listeners to stick around and just be open.
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Because we are gonna be talking about our personal relationship with Jesus, and we want to acknowledge that it's extremely deep and personal, and there's no right or wrong.
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Um, and sometimes I think, especially right now, his name can be really triggering to some people.
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And perhaps um, from your childhood, somebody in your life claimed to have a relationship with Jesus, but they didn't reflect love, empathy, and forgiveness.
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They may have projected um judgment or used his name to maintain control or fear.
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And so this conversation isn't about a relationship with religion, um, it's about a relationship with him.
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And yeah, I just wanted to kind of put that out there.
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I love that.
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It's very important.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you for that.
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I mean, I think too, as we're talking, just to remember Kylie and I started this podcast not to sway any people's beliefs, not to really force people into any certain belief system or mentality about uh Jesus or God.
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It's truly a space for us to share what an impact having a close relationship with the divine has made on our lives.
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So I think I'm so that's why I'm so excited to have you here today, Lori, because you are really uh such a great symbol of that.
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Because, and I know you're gonna get into how you know you created your own relationship with Jesus, but like Kylie said, I hope that what we share today just encourages everybody to think about uh their own personal relationship with Jesus outside of any preconceived notions, um, any other thought systems you might have been holding on to regarding the name Jesus and really open up your hearts.
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And I think that's just it's and in your bio too, Lori, you're talking about this shift in consciousness, right?
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Like this spiritual battle that's currently happening.
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And I know you've talked a lot about it on your social media platforms as well.
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And so I'm just so excited for you to share with our listeners what the possibilities are when you open up your heart, you know.
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Yeah, I mean, I think that's the gift that Jesus reminds us of or gifts us with, or combination of both.
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You know, he's sort of at least, I mean, everything that I'll be sharing today is just my own experience.
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And um, and I think that's one of the most important pieces to think about when you start thinking about Jesus, is he's a relationship, right?
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So, yeah, we learn about him, we know about him.
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I mean, our entire calendar is based on him, our the biggest holiday in the world is based on him.
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There's there's so much deep programming around him.
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So it's impossible for us to not have really deep, steeped, programmed beliefs about him.
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And so to start thinking about him as a person and that you're curious about a relationship with him.
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And it's almost like the the analogy I like to use is like imagine you just met a stranger on the street, you don't know much about him, even if you've had experiences in the past, right?
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Imagine he's he's new, he came out of some, you know, he's just uh he's a new person.
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Um and you're curious about who he is, and you want to get to know him as opposed to what everybody's told you about him.
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That's what he wants.
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Truly, that's what he wants because he'll tell people who he is, he'll show people what they he needs, he wants them to see, right?
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Like if he wants you to read the Bible, he's gonna say, Go read the Bible.
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If he wants you to go to church, he's gonna tell you get your butt to church.
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Like, I don't need to be the person that tells people how to be with Jesus.
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You know, I don't think that's my role.
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My role is to get people to see him outside of the deep program because their whole lives will change.
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I have no doubt in my mind.
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Um is there is there anyone who can tell you how to have a relationship with Jesus?
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I mean, in our physical world, other I don't know.
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I mean, I think a lot of people have been told, yeah, like their whole lives.
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Right, yeah.
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So then they have this idea of who he is, and it doesn't resonate with them, and so they run the other way, and then they just shut the door on Jesus.
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Huge percentage of people.
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Um, and that's the dis that's kind of a lot of what really what he placed in my heart back in August last year before we started to write the book.
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He he um he honestly to me, what he shared with me was that it doesn't matter who comes to him, how they come to him, what they believe, what they don't believe, just come to me because he can he can he can impact everybody.
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Um and the impact is the awareness of what we're in.
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The impact is recognizing none of what you're experiencing as you.
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The impact is learning how to rid yourself of those thoughts that have been tormenting you your whole life.
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The impact is softening your heart, opening your heart, getting rid of addictions.
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The impact is forgiving people you've never been able to forgive.
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The impact is knowing that you're safe in this world, even if you don't have a job.
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The impact is trusting in the fact that you're safe no matter what.
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I mean, there's just the impact is just overwhelming, you know.
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It's just it doesn't stop.
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Um, and all he needs is for you to say, I'm curious.
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Like I'm I'm curious.
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Let me, and then you go through your own battle of walking with him.
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Wow, you know, yeah, that's so beautiful.
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Um I am curious, how did you get to this point?
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Like, tell us about your past and what led you to being curious about having a relationship with him.
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Yeah, I mean, I grew up really, really um spiritual, like new age spiritual, just like aliens, galore, galactics, um, all of that from a very young age.
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I was going to these weekend retreats with my mom, and guys were channeling aliens.
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And so I was really seeped into the um the more um esoteric sort of way of seeing the the world.
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And um my best friend was going through breast cancer in 2022, 2023.
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She started finding Jesus, and Jesus came into her life, and Jesus started creating all these miracles.
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And I was like, wait a second, what is this?
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What you're gonna be kidding me, huh?
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And I then I started getting really curious about what like is he like what he really does miracles?
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Like, and again, I I was, you know, I was one of those people that um didn't believe any of really kind of what religion says about him.
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I didn't believe he was the son of God.
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I didn't believe that he was the way, like there's just all these things I just didn't believe, and uh, I didn't believe the Bible.
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And so I was very against this was three years ago, two years ago.
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Um and um, but I watched my girlfriend just receive these miracles after miracle after miracle, and I was like, okay, stop it.
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Something, there's something about this man.
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This is let me get curious.
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And so in 2023 of July, I it was just randomly decided one day.
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I was like, okay, Jesus, I want to learn about you.
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Um I I don't, I really want to learn about you.
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And I and then I was like, you know, you're probably the one person that I that could that is the person to learn from, right?
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Like if there's anyone to learn from, it's gonna be you.
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Um, and so he I entered, I invited him into my life, and for about a year it was just kind of off and on.
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I would say hi to him, bring him into my car, have him sit in the passenger seat, just super chill.
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Um, and then in 2024, I decided to get serious and I was like, okay, I'm gonna commit.
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I don't even know what happened.
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It's almost like it was inside of me.
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But in the end of 2024, I was like, I'm gonna commit my whole life to God.
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It's like kind of random, but also something where I was like, I just know this is what I'm supposed to do.
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So I committed my whole life one night to God, and I committed my whole life over to Jesus.
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And I said, you can have everything, you can have my whole life.
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And I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't understand what was gonna happen.
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I was like, I had no idea.
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And um, and that was the night where really everything started.
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That was the very end of 2024.
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I got super attacked demonically that night, and I had to go to the ER.
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And that's when I realized demons are real, which I didn't believe either.
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Um, and then from that point forward, I got real serious and he started coming into my life, he started pulling things out of my life, he started doing miracles in my life, he started um, he just started showing up in my life in a very real, real way.
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I started to feel a sense of peace that I'd never in my life felt.
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I didn't even peace where I would drop to my knees and just start crying.
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And I'm would call my friend and I'm like, Brandy, what is this?
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And she's like, Oh, that's Jesus.
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And I was like, No, I'm bawling, like I can't stop crying.
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She goes, Oh, that he's the Prince of Peace.
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And I was like, Prince of Peace, like what?
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So I just started unraveling all of who he was.
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And then it was, and I kept inviting him in, and I and it was very difficult.
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It was not easy because I was really seeped in the esoteric new age, sort of everybody knew me from that.
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Everybody knew that I channeled, everybody knew that I was all about galactics, everybody knew that, and so for whatever reason on this planet, those two have a hard time coming together and being in one room, Jesus and and all this other stuff, galactics and stuff like that.
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And so starting to talk about him was really, really difficult.
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Um, but I knew I had to.
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And Jesus, as you many of you know, he's this gentle surgeon.
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I like to call him a gentle surgeon, because you don't realize what's happening, but he slowly is changing you.
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But he does it in such a way that, yeah, you resist a little bit, but you don't really know what he's doing.
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You're just following along and kind of going with the with the movement.
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And um, and he just slowly changed me.
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And in August of 2025, late at night one night, I sat up and I just started hearing him talk to me as if he was right there.
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It was one of the one time, it's one of the one of the small, the few hate times where I heard him so clearly.
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I swear he was sitting, he was standing in my room.
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Um, and he said, We're gonna write a book together.
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And you're, you know, your whole life's gonna change.
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You're giving everything to me, like you're gonna lose friends, you're gonna lose this.
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I'm the only person you go to, like just everything started to change in a really um dramatic way for me, in a good way.
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And that's when I started to understand even really who he was.
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Um, and so over the past year I've been on this real deep journey with him.
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Um and I've gone to church probably 20, 30 times, but it's been more, and I read the Bible, I read the gospels all the time.
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Um, but my relationship with Jesus is my is it how I know Jesus is through sitting with him and getting to know him and letting him show me who he is um and what he wants from me.
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And who and like just yeah, I mean, it's just there's just so much, right?
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But um I didn't go the traditional path of like, you know, going to churches and and finding a church and reading the Bible all the time.
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Like that just wasn't my path.
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Um I love the Bible.
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I think it's in the most one of the most incredible texts written.
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Um, I love going to church, but it's not how Jesus and I, it's not what we, it's not how we built our relationship and how we continue to build our relationship.
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We build our relationship on me, my commitment, my devotion, my service, my willingness to surrender, my willingness to let go, my willingness to follow.
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And letting him tell me who he is.
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That's really been the hardest thing is trusting what I know to be true in my relationship with him instead of what somebody tells me.
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You know, because everybody will jump on my Instagram and say, you don't know Jesus, that's not Jesus.
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Where do you find that in the scriptures?
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You know, like a lot of people will have challenged me throughout this past year.
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And so it's that's been a real challenge to really trust my the confidence in my relationship with him.
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Um and that's why relationship is the most important piece, in my opinion, because nobody can take that from you.
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Like when someone sits in front of you and you feel them, but you you you can't be convinced they weren't there.
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You can't be convinced you didn't experience them.
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Um and so building build sitting and building a real intimate relationship with him is the greatest gift because nobody can take that from you.
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And you don't have to do it in any specific way, like you don't have to do it the way anybody says to do it.
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And I don't think Jesus would require now.
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Listen, you start walking with Jesus, and there's a lot of requirements, okay?
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It's no joke.
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But in terms of first sitting with him, he's not gonna say, well, first of all, you need to do this, this, this, this.
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Like he just just sit with him and then let him tell you all the things he needs, you know?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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So many things just came to my head thinking about this because you mentioned how he's a gentle surgeon.
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And that resonates so much because I like you, Lori, I was more in like the spirituality space, maybe not as in depth as that, because I that wasn't something I grew up in in a way.
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I wasn't exposed to that, but I could have easily been, I was open to whatever.
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When I realized, um, or when I when I knew my alcohol cravings were removed from me in an instant, that's when I was like, okay, God is real.
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That was not me.
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Something was removed from me that was not me.
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That was when I was like, okay, open.
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And then that's when Jesus kind of came into the chat.
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And I knew it was, it was an it was a personal experience inside my body that I felt that, and it wasn't like so um, I'm trying to think of the right word, but it wasn't so um like earth-shattering in a way.
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And I I think when you say he's a gentle surgeon, that's a good point because some people, when they're like, okay, I'm inviting in Jesus, but nothing has happened.
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Like, I'm not feeling anything.
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So I love that that you continued to invite him into your car, you invited him into your space and you took that step, but I don't think that like we get these like high of high of highs with him.
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Yeah.
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Does that make sense?
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So, like the gentle surgeon thing, because I I think that when people um are more in the spirituality side where they've decided that Christianity isn't for them, which I I was there.
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Um, they they want this like this out-of-body experience because I think other things give them that, that's not Jesus.
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Yeah, I think you're 100%.
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I mean, that's exactly it.
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And that is one of the most difficult parts about trying to walk people that are in that more spiritual space, walk them into the arms of Jesus because you're a hundred percent correct.
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Now, listen, some people will have these, you know, one of the things that does happen is that people start crying, they don't really know why they're crying, they just kind of start to cry.
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Um, so that kind of will start to happen a little bit if if we sit with Jesus.
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But um, yeah, it's not these blissful, activating, high frequency moments.
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It's not supposed to be.
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That's that Jesus is very grounded, real, humble, human, basic.
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It's in the everyday struggles, it's when it's in the thoughts, it's in the addictions, it's in the porn, it's in the stuff that you're doing every day.
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That's where Jesus is.
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Jesus is not in the high vibes, he's just not, he's not in the in the higher realm.
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I mean, he he's everywhere, but he that's not where he's gonna take you.
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He's just not gonna take you there.
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He's gonna take you into the human, he's gonna take you into the thoughts.
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You're gonna sit and go cuckoo because you're all you can do is think.
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So you're not gonna hear him, you're not gonna feel him, right?
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Um and uh it teaches us, it teaches us uh the temptations that pull us, right?
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Like how easy it is for the world to take us from him.
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Um but the the greatest gift is if you if you are offered an opportunity where something is taken immediately, then you're like, okay, this is this is real.
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You know, like what the heck?
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I mean, I he I can't even count the amount of things that he's taken from me instantaneously.
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And some things come back and then he takes it again and then it comes back and then he takes it again.
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It's been, you know, there's certain things in my life where he's taken it probably seven times and it's come back.
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And so really sitting with him, trying to figure out like, why is this one coming back?
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What's the stronghold?
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Like, what is it that I'm doing?
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What doors am I opening?
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Like, what's happening here?
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Um, because it is all a spiritual battle.
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And so really understanding the battle that we are in that he wants to show us.
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Um and and and learning about that battle, because I think I think we're deeply, we're duped.
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I think we're very duped.
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Seriously, yeah, yeah.
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Well, in that sense, too, like he's our teacher, right?
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Like that's another way that you can view Jesus, and Jesus is talked about as our teacher.
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And I think what you mentioned to Lori is he is in real life.
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I keep, I always go back to the fact that he was human.
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You know what I mean?
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Like he was all divine and all human at the same time.
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So he knows what it's like to be human.
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And in my mind, we can't look to Jesus and say, fix all my problems for me.
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That's not the purpose of the relationship with Jesus.
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What you're what I'm hearing from you, Lori, is that, you know, we're here to learn, we're here to to grow as humans in the way that Jesus, you know, worked with the disciples and and his followers when he was alive in human form.
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And he's continuing to do that through the Holy Spirit and through creating that personal relationship.
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And and I love that because that lasts, you know, like when you if you feel really, you know, really great about something, whether it's you're taking an outside um substance like alcohol, and you feel so good the next morning, you feel like crap.
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But with Jesus, it's continued and it continues to get better, which I think is such a beautiful notion because when you develop that relationship, it only gets stronger.
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And like, even for me, I grew up very religious.
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Jesus, you know, was all over the house.
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My parents have a very large picture of Jesus still in their house, which I love.
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But you know, I had no relationship with Jesus.
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It wasn't until I chose to, and I'm still working on my relationship with Jesus, right?
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Like it's not, it's not done.
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We're still growing together, but that's the beauty of it is that it continues to grow, it continues to last.
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You continue to be surprised.
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You even mentioned, right, there are requirements.
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Like sometimes you got to do things that are hard.
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And I know it must have been hard for you, Lori.
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I wonder if you could speak on this because you did have a lot of social media followers when you were um in the spiritual spirituality realm, in the mystic realm, um, in that space.
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And when you decided to bring Jesus into your space, you mentioned it a little bit.
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I just, I just commend you for doing that.
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I think that's a really difficult thing to do, especially in this modern era of social media.
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Because ever, like you said, everybody has opinions.
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Everybody wants, you know, to challenge you, say they're right, you're wrong.
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So I wonder if you could speak on that a little bit too, because I'm sure that was something Jesus said, like, hey, this is gonna be hard, but you know, I want you to do it.
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I don't know.
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I'm thinking that's what that was about, but I just want to commend you.
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But you know, that is the confidence that Jesus gives too.
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I know you shared that as well, but I'm sure that was difficult.
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Yeah, the it's a great what you were saying about how the relationship.
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First of all, I just find it so insanely like WTF that I'll never get over this for the rest of my life.
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That there is a man that's not actually, I mean, he's alive.
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Okay, yes, he's alive, but he's not actually physically living, okay.
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Right, right, that legit is uh healing people's lives every day.
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Like, I don't think people be unfortunately, because of the programming of Jesus, people can't really, if you don't um if you if you have a a a dis dis uh you know, you're kind of like you're not really a big fan of Jesus, you can't really comprehend just what he's actually doing.
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And it when you start to look at what he's actually doing, it is the most profound freaking thing on the planet.
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There's no other teacher, master, spiritual teacher, there's nobody else on the planet in the history of this planet that is doing or has done what Jesus is currently doing on the planet.
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Now, because it's based in a religion, people, you know, they poo-poo it or they push it aside, but it's it's it's it's mind-blowing that he's capable of healing people of almost anything.
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And he's not physically on the he's not doing, he's not in front of you.
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Like, make that make sense.
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And I don't think we're giving that enough credit.
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Like, I'm sorry, but it's like let's say Jesus wasn't the name Jesus, right?
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And he was a different name.
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And we're like, dude, there's this thing you can call in.
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And if you call him in over and over and you sit with him, he's gonna heal everything.
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Do you know how many people would be standing in line, being like, okay, I'm I want that?
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But because his name is Jesus, and because he's associated with, oh, he's the only way to God.
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And if you don't follow him, you're gonna go to hell, and like all these stories around him, a huge percentage of people won't won't won't knock on the door, you know?
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And it's like, dude, is anybody else noticing how insane this is?
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Like, Kylie, you're like, oh yeah, the alcohol was just taken.
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It's like the more I see these things happen in my life with him, I'm like, wait, you just took that eating disorder pattern that I had since I was six.
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Like, it's literally gone.
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Like, how did you do that?
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You know, it's like, it's gone.
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You know, um, patterns of be uh relationship patterns with men.
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Gone.
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And when I say gone, like it's not in my, it's gone.
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It's like where, like, like I never had it.
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Right?
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Like what?
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It's mind-bending to me.
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And it's also mind-bending because I remember when I was like, okay, it was Jesus that removed my cravings.
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And I'm like, oh, I'm a Christian.
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It made it all makes sense.
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I'm a Christian.
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And so, and so I'm like talking to Christians and I'm like telling them my story, and they're like, wow, that's amazing.
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And but it's also like, well, you're not doing the right thing, like you're not going to church.
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What church are you in?
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And it's like hilarious because I'm like, you guys claim this guy, but like you're like nothing has changed within you.
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And so I remember just being in this space where I was just like, Who am I?
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Like, what do you want from me?
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So it was just, yeah, it's baffling that he has this much power, but still Christians that claim him, like, I don't know.
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It, but that's my personal experience.
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I mean, that's everywhere in the world, you know.
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Like, you know, there's um, you know, my my hope is that, and Julie, you asked about like my community.
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My hope, I have a different unique path with Jesus.
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And I'm getting, I'm becoming more and more familiar with what that is.
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Cause Kylie, like you were saying, like I didn't know, like as I was like, oh my God, am I a Christian all of a sudden?
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I can't all of a sudden be a Christian.
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How am I gonna be a Christian and teach what I teach about consciousness and evolution?
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Like, I at least know that I'm I know for sure I'm supposed to talk about evolution and consciousness.
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But if I'm a Christian, like, how am I supposed to be a Christian?
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Like I had like a real come to Jesus legit.
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Um, and then it became very clear like, no, here's what we're doing together.
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And so I had to kind of peel it apart and really really sit with it.
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Um, but the more I sit with Jesus, the more I understand, and the more I read the wrote the book, the more I understood the role he wants me to play with him is trying to dissolve the programs around him and on both sides or on every side, and try to get people to see him without any blinders on, like without any way.
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Just can you just throw those aside for a moment and see what happens if you invite him in and and then letting him do the rest of the work, right?
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Um because I believe there are a large percentage of people that know Jesus in terms of knowledge and information, but they don't they don't follow him, right?
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And there's a big difference.
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Yeah, and you you mentioned this and we've kind of talked about it, but I just want to be direct.
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So what is the difference between inviting Jesus in versus almost like converting to like a belief system, a religion in a way?
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Because I think that people can get a little confused, like, okay, if I invite in Jesus, then does that mean I have to like be a Christian?
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So if you can speak on that.
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Yeah, I mean, again, I've sort of dropped into this place of like, I don't know what what's gonna happen on your path, but it absolutely does not mean that this is what I say, because this is what happened to me.
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You know, when I first started inviting Jesus in, I was like, okay, listen, I'll sit with you, but I don't believe this, and I don't believe this, and I don't believe this.
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These are the things I this, these are my absolute, I I can't, I'm I'll never believe these things, right?
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Like, and so he's just like, whatever, he could care less.
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He just wants me to sit with him because he knows at the end of the day he's gonna change everything and he's gonna show me everything, right?
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.079
Yeah.
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Um, so I always say to people, like, forget about what you do or don't believe, you know, or I don't want to be a Christian, like I, you know, or I don't want to have to go to church, or I don't want to have to read the Bible, whatever that those things are, just place those on a little, you know, uh bookcase and just start with inviting him into your life, which just means once a day, twice a day, three times a day, you just invite Jesus to come in.
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Like Jesus, come sit with me, Jesus come walk with me, Jesus, come hang out with me while I'm cooking.
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And again, there's no you may not feel anything, or maybe you do, or maybe some days you do, some days you don't, but um that is all that matters in my experience, because that's all that I did.
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And then eventually over time, if I committed to that, if I committed every day, that's the that's what changes your life.
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If you do it once a week, not much is gonna change.
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If you do it every single day and you commit to him, he'll change your entire life and he'll show you the path he wants you to go down.
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Um but I think there are pros and cons with religion, and so um it's never been the path I've taken only because it's just not what he's invited me to walk down.
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Um I'm trying to be very, very cautious.
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Um, and there's certain things that he's it's an interesting walk because at the end of the day, as long as Jesus is in your life, that's all that really matters.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, um it's a mystery.
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It's kind of like, yeah, he he he says to me, and he was telling me this morning, he goes, Lori, it doesn't matter as long as I'm in their lives, right?
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And I was like, Oh yeah, you're right.
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It really doesn't matter.
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Like exactly he's in their lives.
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I was thinking too, I know Kylie, you really uh when your cravings were taken from you, I remember you shared on one of our episodes that the story of the lost sheep, you know, that that Jesus would leave the 99 to find the one.
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Like you really connected with that.
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And I think that's my little picture here.
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Ah, oh my gosh.
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And I was just thinking, I was like, oh, that must be a really beautiful artwork.
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Um, and Lori just moved moved her head and there's Jesus with a little sheep.
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How cute.
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I bought that um awesome art that's very similar uh for Kylie this Christmas.
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But I think when you find something that Jesus um represents that that resonates with you, that is really the first personally, right?
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And and obviously we're not like, okay, now you need to open up your Bible and find part of the gospel that resonates.
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No, we're not saying that.
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But once you find something about Jesus that resonates with you, that's the part when you start to open that door.
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And that I have this image, I think this is from uh scripture where this image comes from, comes from, but it's in P, it's like an artwork or like some art that I've seen before, and it's a picture of a door and Jesus is standing right outside of it.
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Um, I can't think of like the scripture where this comes from, but you know, there's no handle on the door.
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Jesus doesn't have a handle on his side of the door, but you know, you're on the other side.
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And so if you open the door, just a crack to Jesus, you're welcoming him in, right?
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And he can't open that door for you.
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So whether it is inviting him into your kitchen to cook with you, inviting him into your car, if it's just thinking about how he would literally leave every other single sheep in his flock to go find you, or that he loves you.
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Jesus loves you.
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I sing to my daughter a song that I grew up singing and listening to my mom sing to me.
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Jesus loves me.
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This I know, you know, and so it's what are those little pieces of Jesus?
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.199
And Aaron Abke on his Jesus Way podcast.
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I don't know if you've listened to that, but he talks about, you know, Jesus is God, God is all-loving, all-encompassing.
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Like there's these parts to Jesus we know are true.
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And I don't necessarily need to see scripture that reminds me that.
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I don't need somebody to tell me that.
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I know that Jesus loves me no matter what.
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And, you know, that's sometimes I feel like the first thing you gotta do is just find that peace where you can start to build that relationship.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, and it's different for everybody.
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That's the cool part.
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Yeah, it's different for everybody.
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And um, man, my my mind just went completely blank.
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It's so weird.
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It just blanked.
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Um about Jesus or about what I said, just went blank.
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What were you just saying?
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What were you just talking about?
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Well, just that you find the in, right?
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Like the way that you evolved your relationship to Jesus and and just separate from religion, right?
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:44.000
You can go to church, and if that resonates with you, if if that's a way to find Jesus, we love stories for you.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.880
Yeah, stories in the Bible, they're so freaking fun.
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:53.760
So this is how Jesus blew my mind because I was like a staunch no Bible Jesus.
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Like, I'm a no Bible, I'm a no Bible girl.
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Okay, so I'll do this with you, but no Bible.
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And all of a sudden he'd be like, open up the Bible.
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First of all, get the Bible.
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So then I got this amazing Bible, and then it was like, okay, sit with me.
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So I I used not used to, I still do.
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I sit at least 30 minutes, sometimes an hour every single day with him.
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It's a non-negotiable for the most part.
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And so um he'll say, start saying, open your Bible, or he'll say, I want you to read all of Matthew.
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And I'm like, excuse me, come again.
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:32.960
And so when I first started to read the Bible, I had my own egoic like guard up.
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I was like, this is nonsense, this is stupid, it's all judgmental, right?
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So, like my frame of my beliefs framed how I interpreted the Bible in the beginning.
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I was very stubborn Lori.
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Um, and over time I started to soften to the Bible, and I was like, holy, holy cow, wait a second.
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And then I started really understanding the power of the Bible.
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And then I started, and then as Jesus was teaching me separate from the Bible, right?
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So there was a method to Jesus' madness.
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Like he would teach me, and then he would say, now go look at this part of the Bible.
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So then I would go read it, and I was like, Oh, you were talking about this part of the spiritual battle.
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Like, yay, they kind of have it right, but also they don't have it right.
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Like, like they do have it right, but then they don't have it right.
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Like, and he was showing me how he was like the things that he was saying, like the Holy Spirit coming in and the dove, and the like there's just so many things in the Bible where I'm like, oh my God, like holy cow.
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The these things are just they that when you can grab what he said and hold on to it for dear life, it really helps.
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You know, when you can open the Bible and just sit with his word, it really helps because you can anchor that.
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It's alive.
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The the gospels are alive, the red letters, they're alive.
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They're you feel close to him, you know?
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Yeah, that that resonates with me because I went straight to I tried to start the Bible and I went through like the first, I think I stopped at numbers, and then I was like, this isn't penetrating me at all in a way, and so I started.
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I was like, okay, I want to get to what he said.
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And so focusing on his teachings has allowed me to um follow him in a way through through the red letters.
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So I, you know, if I can say I'm a red letter Christian, I would say I'm a red letter Christian because I really just focus on on him.
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Yeah, me too.
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Me too.
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I've tried to read the other stuff, and there's some stuff that I do read, but um for me, it's like I don't I don't want to read before Jesus.
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I mean, I understand it's powerful.
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I don't really want to read before Jesus, even though I know it was Jesus because Jesus was God.
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I just want to know, I just want to read when he was here.
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I want to read what he did.
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I want to hear stories, you know.
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Um and yeah, so I f that's what I what I what I tend to focus on.
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I've tried to read a lot of the Paul, but I I just can't.
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Um, you know, there's some stuff that uh that resonates with what Jesus is teaching me for sure.
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Um, there's a handful of things.
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Again, what what Jesus will do with me is he'll teach me something and then he'll say, Now go read this piece, and then I'll go and I'll be like, holy cow.
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Okay.
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So he wants me to understand the power of the Bible.
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That's cool.
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Um, but yeah, like there's a lot that has been distorted, I believe.
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Yeah, I think understanding, and Kylie's done, I know you've done like some good work in this, just understanding the historical context of the Bible helps a lot to be like, oh, and and when people, my biggest pet peeve, I'm just gonna say it, when people quote the Bible as fact, as it was said in the Bible, so it's law.
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And it's like, hmm, well, let's think about who wrote that.
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Number one, the the time period it was written in.
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And I truly think that the power of the Bible and the power of scripture is that it's not about what was written and what was, you know, directly said to the people who were alive at that time.
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It's about what was taught, what was what was the message and how does it relate to my current life?
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How does it relate to where I'm currently living?
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You mentioned too, Jesus is alive.
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Okay.
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So it's like people want to read the Bible.
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It's like, well, Jesus said this, and and you know, he said to do this, this, this.
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It's like, well, guess what?
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I'm reading the Bible now, and Jesus is telling me now what to do because he's alive in me, and we're walking this, you know, modern.
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Era together.
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So it needs to change a little bit.
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It needs to be, um, I don't know what's a good word.
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Um, it needs to be used as like a tool for today's world, not exactly what was said.
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That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to the Bible.
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And I'm kind of similar to you, Lori.
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I when I first um, you know, started my own like spiritual journey, not when I was younger and hearing scripture in church, but I'm like, the Bible just didn't do it for me.
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And it still kind of doesn't.
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Maybe that's something that I need to grow into too, but I'm aligned with you on that for sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, I think I just come back to, and this is what I try to teach, like, you know, there's a I think there's a lot of teachings.
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Well, a lot of what Jesus has taught me is so much more than just what's in the Bible.
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And but it's also it's um it's understanding the power of bringing God back into your life, the power of bringing that Holy Spirit and back into your life, the holy, that holy light back in, and and really understanding, in my opinion, in my belief, based on what he shared with me, is the reason we are the way we are right now on this planet is because that divine connection was distorted a long time ago.
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And the key to all of this is to reconnect back into that holy light, that Holy Spirit, which is why to me, one of the most important moments in the Bible is when Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit came back, came into his body.
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And the reason I think that's the most important is he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come into his body.
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He was God, he was divine, he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come in.
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So, why did he want everyone to see the Holy Spirit come in?
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Why did he want that to be something that people saw?
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Why was that so important?
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Um, and that to me is the foundation of Jesus.
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Is that's why he is the way because he's reconnecting us back not only into creator, the creator source of all life, but he's he's bringing God back into our bodies.
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And when that happens, we start all the things we've been talking about start happening.
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And it's not because Jesus is like the magic maker, even though he is the miracle maker, that's not what he wants to be.
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He wants to bring us back to God.
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And yes, that is sort of the foundation of what he's been trying to teach me.
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And you know, trying to peel apart all the ways that everybody sees Jesus, including myself, to be able to get really clear.
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Because once you have that foundation of understanding, at least for myself, then everything else becomes sort of like extra stuff that's part of his teachings.
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But for me, that's really the foundation, like, wow, okay, so we were we were attacked basically by, you know, you can call them fallen angels or you can call them, you know, hybrid things or intergalactic or whatever you want to call them, but they infiltrated the planet in a way that distorted our divine connection to God.
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And so this is all about coming back to that.
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And Jesus came in to say, hey, I'm I'm the way there.
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I'm gonna show you how to do it.
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Yeah.
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And then there's all this other stuff that you know is piled on top of that now.
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Yeah.
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And what made sense to me on this, and we'll wrap it up after this, um, is that um Jesus, the man that walked on this planet, he has authorization to activate that Holy Spirit and that God light through us.
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And when that hit me, holy cow.
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It just like, and then I and then I just felt this like sense of relief because I was like, okay, like I don't have to do all of this heavy lifting.
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I don't, I just have to like let him do it, let him show me the way.
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And he's the only one that has authority to get rid of the demonic energies in us.
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Yeah, it's only him.
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And why is that?
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So he's the authority of really connecting us back into God, and we can argue that because we will, people will argue that, sure.
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Yeah, but you don't know until you know, you don't know until you feel it, right?
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Then you're like, oh, shiitake mushrooms, this is actually God.
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I thought I was God this whole time.
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And it's like you don't know that you're not with God until you're with God.
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And then you realize, oh my God, I was never actually with God.
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And then the next thing is he's the only name that gets rid of demons, and demons are real, and demons and infiltrated parasitic thoughts are what control this whole planet.
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He is the only one that gets rid of it.
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You can do all the energy work, you can do all the chakras, you can do all the whatever you want to do, but it won't, you're still gonna be in the loops, you're still gonna be in the loop of it all.
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It's it and that really, those two things are what like blew my mind.
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Yeah.
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Like what?
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Like I could call on any ascended master, any angel, or any teach spiritual teacher on the planet, and nothing happens, but you call Jesus in, and it's like boom.
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100%.
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And Julie and I talk about this all the time, and Justin, and we're just always like laughing and crying, and like, this is so wild.
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But you could talk about it infinite ways and still like be so astounded by it.
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Absolutely.
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Well, thank you, Lori, for being with us today.
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This was such a fun conversation just hearing from you about your relationship with Jesus and the insight that you can give us uh on growing our own relationship with Jesus and and growing deeper into that relationship every single day, surrendering to him.
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That was just so beautiful.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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Yeah, thanks, ladies, for having me.
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Um, I always want to talk about Jesus, so I love it.
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I love it so much.
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I'm so grateful that you um answered my message when I just reached out to you as a stranger.
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And so I just thank you.
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Talk about Jesus.
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Oh my goodness.
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That was definitely spirit-led.
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Yeah, and just your generosity of your time um and your commitment to um just help people bring God back into their life.
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Yeah.
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So thank you.
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Um, and we're just so grateful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And where can our listeners um get in touch with you?
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Or um if they want to know more about you or follow you, where can they go?
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Yeah, they can um go to Lori L-O-R-I-E-L A D D dot com.
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That's my website.
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And then Lori underscore lad is Instagram and YouTube and Facebook.
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Yeah, definitely check her out on social media.
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You post amazing videos.
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Every time I watch one of your videos, I'm like lit up from the inside.
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Like, okay.
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She has a gift, yes.
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She's she knows something is so I love it.
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So definitely check her out on our social media pages.
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Um, but thank you so much.
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And uh, we would love to have you back on too if you're ever interested, because this was such an interesting conversation.
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Uh yeah, for sure.
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Yay! Well, thank you for listening.
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This has been the Miracle Path Podcast, and we'll see you guys next time.
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Bye bye.
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Welcome to the Miracle Path Podcast.
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I am Julie, your co-host here with my wonderful co-host Kylie.
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And we are back again with such a special episode.
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We have such a special guest today.
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And I'm just I'm giddy with excitement about today's conversation, about what we're gonna get into.
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Um, so thank you for joining us.
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And I will go ahead and introduce our guest.
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Her name is Lori Ladd.
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Lori is an international best-selling author and spiritual teacher specializing in the evolution of human consciousness.
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Her teachings and her guidance have helped millions of people navigate the current planetary shifts and remember the divine design held within the human experience.
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She's currently focused on bringing in unique awareness to the power and the gifts of Jesus at a time when humanity is awakening from the spiritual battle.
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In 2022, Lori published her first book, The Divine Design, which has become an international bestseller published in multiple countries.
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Currently, Lori is completing her second book, Jesus Speaks, bringing people into a unique awareness and understanding of Jesus during humanity's current shift in consciousness.
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Wow, what an introduction, Lori.
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Thank you so much for joining us on our podcast.
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Thanks, ladies.
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I'm excited to be here.
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Grateful to be here.
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We're so happy you're here.
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It's so cool because I um I got introduced to your channel on Instagram like a year and a half ago, or maybe two years, but it was from uh Michaela with two sober girls.
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And she was like, Hey, I think Lori is um is gonna be really helpful on your spiritual spiritual journey, and you have been.
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So I just want to thank you for your work.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And before we get started, um, I just want to encourage our listeners to stick around and just be open.
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Because we are gonna be talking about our personal relationship with Jesus, and we want to acknowledge that it's extremely deep and personal, and there's no right or wrong.
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Um, and sometimes I think, especially right now, his name can be really triggering to some people.
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And perhaps um, from your childhood, somebody in your life claimed to have a relationship with Jesus, but they didn't reflect love, empathy, and forgiveness.
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They may have projected um judgment or used his name to maintain control or fear.
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And so this conversation isn't about a relationship with religion, um, it's about a relationship with him.
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And yeah, I just wanted to kind of put that out there.
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I love that.
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It's very important.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you for that.
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I mean, I think too, as we're talking, just to remember Kylie and I started this podcast not to sway any people's beliefs, not to really force people into any certain belief system or mentality about uh Jesus or God.
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It's truly a space for us to share what an impact having a close relationship with the divine has made on our lives.
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So I think I'm so that's why I'm so excited to have you here today, Lori, because you are really uh such a great symbol of that.
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Because, and I know you're gonna get into how you know you created your own relationship with Jesus, but like Kylie said, I hope that what we share today just encourages everybody to think about uh their own personal relationship with Jesus outside of any preconceived notions, um, any other thought systems you might have been holding on to regarding the name Jesus and really open up your hearts.
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And I think that's just it's and in your bio too, Lori, you're talking about this shift in consciousness, right?
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Like this spiritual battle that's currently happening.
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And I know you've talked a lot about it on your social media platforms as well.
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And so I'm just so excited for you to share with our listeners what the possibilities are when you open up your heart, you know.
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Yeah, I mean, I think that's the gift that Jesus reminds us of or gifts us with, or combination of both.
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You know, he's sort of at least, I mean, everything that I'll be sharing today is just my own experience.
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And um, and I think that's one of the most important pieces to think about when you start thinking about Jesus, is he's a relationship, right?
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So, yeah, we learn about him, we know about him.
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I mean, our entire calendar is based on him, our the biggest holiday in the world is based on him.
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There's there's so much deep programming around him.
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So it's impossible for us to not have really deep, steeped, programmed beliefs about him.
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And so to start thinking about him as a person and that you're curious about a relationship with him.
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And it's almost like the the analogy I like to use is like imagine you just met a stranger on the street, you don't know much about him, even if you've had experiences in the past, right?
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Imagine he's he's new, he came out of some, you know, he's just uh he's a new person.
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Um and you're curious about who he is, and you want to get to know him as opposed to what everybody's told you about him.
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That's what he wants.
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Truly, that's what he wants because he'll tell people who he is, he'll show people what they he needs, he wants them to see, right?
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Like if he wants you to read the Bible, he's gonna say, Go read the Bible.
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If he wants you to go to church, he's gonna tell you get your butt to church.
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Like, I don't need to be the person that tells people how to be with Jesus.
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You know, I don't think that's my role.
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My role is to get people to see him outside of the deep program because their whole lives will change.
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I have no doubt in my mind.
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Um is there is there anyone who can tell you how to have a relationship with Jesus?
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I mean, in our physical world, other I don't know.
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I mean, I think a lot of people have been told, yeah, like their whole lives.
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Right, yeah.
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So then they have this idea of who he is, and it doesn't resonate with them, and so they run the other way, and then they just shut the door on Jesus.
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Huge percentage of people.
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Um, and that's the dis that's kind of a lot of what really what he placed in my heart back in August last year before we started to write the book.
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He he um he honestly to me, what he shared with me was that it doesn't matter who comes to him, how they come to him, what they believe, what they don't believe, just come to me because he can he can he can impact everybody.
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Um and the impact is the awareness of what we're in.
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The impact is recognizing none of what you're experiencing as you.
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The impact is learning how to rid yourself of those thoughts that have been tormenting you your whole life.
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The impact is softening your heart, opening your heart, getting rid of addictions.
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The impact is forgiving people you've never been able to forgive.
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The impact is knowing that you're safe in this world, even if you don't have a job.
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The impact is trusting in the fact that you're safe no matter what.
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I mean, there's just the impact is just overwhelming, you know.
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It's just it doesn't stop.
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Um, and all he needs is for you to say, I'm curious.
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Like I'm I'm curious.
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Let me, and then you go through your own battle of walking with him.
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Wow, you know, yeah, that's so beautiful.
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Um I am curious, how did you get to this point?
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Like, tell us about your past and what led you to being curious about having a relationship with him.
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Yeah, I mean, I grew up really, really um spiritual, like new age spiritual, just like aliens, galore, galactics, um, all of that from a very young age.
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I was going to these weekend retreats with my mom, and guys were channeling aliens.
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And so I was really seeped into the um the more um esoteric sort of way of seeing the the world.
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And um my best friend was going through breast cancer in 2022, 2023.
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She started finding Jesus, and Jesus came into her life, and Jesus started creating all these miracles.
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And I was like, wait a second, what is this?
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What you're gonna be kidding me, huh?
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And I then I started getting really curious about what like is he like what he really does miracles?
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Like, and again, I I was, you know, I was one of those people that um didn't believe any of really kind of what religion says about him.
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I didn't believe he was the son of God.
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I didn't believe that he was the way, like there's just all these things I just didn't believe, and uh, I didn't believe the Bible.
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And so I was very against this was three years ago, two years ago.
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Um and um, but I watched my girlfriend just receive these miracles after miracle after miracle, and I was like, okay, stop it.
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Something, there's something about this man.
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This is let me get curious.
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And so in 2023 of July, I it was just randomly decided one day.
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I was like, okay, Jesus, I want to learn about you.
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Um I I don't, I really want to learn about you.
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And I and then I was like, you know, you're probably the one person that I that could that is the person to learn from, right?
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Like if there's anyone to learn from, it's gonna be you.
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Um, and so he I entered, I invited him into my life, and for about a year it was just kind of off and on.
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I would say hi to him, bring him into my car, have him sit in the passenger seat, just super chill.
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Um, and then in 2024, I decided to get serious and I was like, okay, I'm gonna commit.
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I don't even know what happened.
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It's almost like it was inside of me.
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But in the end of 2024, I was like, I'm gonna commit my whole life to God.
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It's like kind of random, but also something where I was like, I just know this is what I'm supposed to do.
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So I committed my whole life one night to God, and I committed my whole life over to Jesus.
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And I said, you can have everything, you can have my whole life.
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And I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't understand what was gonna happen.
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I was like, I had no idea.
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And um, and that was the night where really everything started.
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That was the very end of 2024.
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I got super attacked demonically that night, and I had to go to the ER.
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And that's when I realized demons are real, which I didn't believe either.
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Um, and then from that point forward, I got real serious and he started coming into my life, he started pulling things out of my life, he started doing miracles in my life, he started um, he just started showing up in my life in a very real, real way.
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I started to feel a sense of peace that I'd never in my life felt.
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I didn't even peace where I would drop to my knees and just start crying.
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And I'm would call my friend and I'm like, Brandy, what is this?
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And she's like, Oh, that's Jesus.
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And I was like, No, I'm bawling, like I can't stop crying.
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She goes, Oh, that he's the Prince of Peace.
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And I was like, Prince of Peace, like what?
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So I just started unraveling all of who he was.
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And then it was, and I kept inviting him in, and I and it was very difficult.
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It was not easy because I was really seeped in the esoteric new age, sort of everybody knew me from that.
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Everybody knew that I channeled, everybody knew that I was all about galactics, everybody knew that, and so for whatever reason on this planet, those two have a hard time coming together and being in one room, Jesus and and all this other stuff, galactics and stuff like that.
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And so starting to talk about him was really, really difficult.
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Um, but I knew I had to.
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And Jesus, as you many of you know, he's this gentle surgeon.
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I like to call him a gentle surgeon, because you don't realize what's happening, but he slowly is changing you.
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But he does it in such a way that, yeah, you resist a little bit, but you don't really know what he's doing.
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You're just following along and kind of going with the with the movement.
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And um, and he just slowly changed me.
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And in August of 2025, late at night one night, I sat up and I just started hearing him talk to me as if he was right there.
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It was one of the one time, it's one of the one of the small, the few hate times where I heard him so clearly.
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I swear he was sitting, he was standing in my room.
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Um, and he said, We're gonna write a book together.
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And you're, you know, your whole life's gonna change.
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You're giving everything to me, like you're gonna lose friends, you're gonna lose this.
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I'm the only person you go to, like just everything started to change in a really um dramatic way for me, in a good way.
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And that's when I started to understand even really who he was.
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Um, and so over the past year I've been on this real deep journey with him.
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Um and I've gone to church probably 20, 30 times, but it's been more, and I read the Bible, I read the gospels all the time.
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Um, but my relationship with Jesus is my is it how I know Jesus is through sitting with him and getting to know him and letting him show me who he is um and what he wants from me.
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And who and like just yeah, I mean, it's just there's just so much, right?
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But um I didn't go the traditional path of like, you know, going to churches and and finding a church and reading the Bible all the time.
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Like that just wasn't my path.
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Um I love the Bible.
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I think it's in the most one of the most incredible texts written.
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Um, I love going to church, but it's not how Jesus and I, it's not what we, it's not how we built our relationship and how we continue to build our relationship.
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We build our relationship on me, my commitment, my devotion, my service, my willingness to surrender, my willingness to let go, my willingness to follow.
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And letting him tell me who he is.
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That's really been the hardest thing is trusting what I know to be true in my relationship with him instead of what somebody tells me.
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You know, because everybody will jump on my Instagram and say, you don't know Jesus, that's not Jesus.
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Where do you find that in the scriptures?
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You know, like a lot of people will have challenged me throughout this past year.
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And so it's that's been a real challenge to really trust my the confidence in my relationship with him.
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Um and that's why relationship is the most important piece, in my opinion, because nobody can take that from you.
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Like when someone sits in front of you and you feel them, but you you you can't be convinced they weren't there.
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You can't be convinced you didn't experience them.
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Um and so building build sitting and building a real intimate relationship with him is the greatest gift because nobody can take that from you.
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And you don't have to do it in any specific way, like you don't have to do it the way anybody says to do it.
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And I don't think Jesus would require now.
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Listen, you start walking with Jesus, and there's a lot of requirements, okay?
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It's no joke.
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But in terms of first sitting with him, he's not gonna say, well, first of all, you need to do this, this, this, this.
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Like he just just sit with him and then let him tell you all the things he needs, you know?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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So many things just came to my head thinking about this because you mentioned how he's a gentle surgeon.
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And that resonates so much because I like you, Lori, I was more in like the spirituality space, maybe not as in depth as that, because I that wasn't something I grew up in in a way.
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I wasn't exposed to that, but I could have easily been, I was open to whatever.
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When I realized, um, or when I when I knew my alcohol cravings were removed from me in an instant, that's when I was like, okay, God is real.
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That was not me.
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Something was removed from me that was not me.
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That was when I was like, okay, open.
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And then that's when Jesus kind of came into the chat.
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And I knew it was, it was an it was a personal experience inside my body that I felt that, and it wasn't like so um, I'm trying to think of the right word, but it wasn't so um like earth-shattering in a way.
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And I I think when you say he's a gentle surgeon, that's a good point because some people, when they're like, okay, I'm inviting in Jesus, but nothing has happened.
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Like, I'm not feeling anything.
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So I love that that you continued to invite him into your car, you invited him into your space and you took that step, but I don't think that like we get these like high of high of highs with him.
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Yeah.
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Does that make sense?
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So, like the gentle surgeon thing, because I I think that when people um are more in the spirituality side where they've decided that Christianity isn't for them, which I I was there.
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Um, they they want this like this out-of-body experience because I think other things give them that, that's not Jesus.
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Yeah, I think you're 100%.
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I mean, that's exactly it.
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And that is one of the most difficult parts about trying to walk people that are in that more spiritual space, walk them into the arms of Jesus because you're a hundred percent correct.
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Now, listen, some people will have these, you know, one of the things that does happen is that people start crying, they don't really know why they're crying, they just kind of start to cry.
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Um, so that kind of will start to happen a little bit if if we sit with Jesus.
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But um, yeah, it's not these blissful, activating, high frequency moments.
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It's not supposed to be.
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That's that Jesus is very grounded, real, humble, human, basic.
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It's in the everyday struggles, it's when it's in the thoughts, it's in the addictions, it's in the porn, it's in the stuff that you're doing every day.
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That's where Jesus is.
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Jesus is not in the high vibes, he's just not, he's not in the in the higher realm.
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I mean, he he's everywhere, but he that's not where he's gonna take you.
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He's just not gonna take you there.
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He's gonna take you into the human, he's gonna take you into the thoughts.
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You're gonna sit and go cuckoo because you're all you can do is think.
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So you're not gonna hear him, you're not gonna feel him, right?
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Um and uh it teaches us, it teaches us uh the temptations that pull us, right?
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Like how easy it is for the world to take us from him.
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Um but the the greatest gift is if you if you are offered an opportunity where something is taken immediately, then you're like, okay, this is this is real.
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You know, like what the heck?
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I mean, I he I can't even count the amount of things that he's taken from me instantaneously.
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And some things come back and then he takes it again and then it comes back and then he takes it again.
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It's been, you know, there's certain things in my life where he's taken it probably seven times and it's come back.
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And so really sitting with him, trying to figure out like, why is this one coming back?
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What's the stronghold?
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Like, what is it that I'm doing?
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What doors am I opening?
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Like, what's happening here?
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Um, because it is all a spiritual battle.
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And so really understanding the battle that we are in that he wants to show us.
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Um and and and learning about that battle, because I think I think we're deeply, we're duped.
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I think we're very duped.
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Seriously, yeah, yeah.
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Well, in that sense, too, like he's our teacher, right?
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Like that's another way that you can view Jesus, and Jesus is talked about as our teacher.
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And I think what you mentioned to Lori is he is in real life.
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I keep, I always go back to the fact that he was human.
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You know what I mean?
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Like he was all divine and all human at the same time.
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So he knows what it's like to be human.
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And in my mind, we can't look to Jesus and say, fix all my problems for me.
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That's not the purpose of the relationship with Jesus.
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What you're what I'm hearing from you, Lori, is that, you know, we're here to learn, we're here to to grow as humans in the way that Jesus, you know, worked with the disciples and and his followers when he was alive in human form.
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And he's continuing to do that through the Holy Spirit and through creating that personal relationship.
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And and I love that because that lasts, you know, like when you if you feel really, you know, really great about something, whether it's you're taking an outside um substance like alcohol, and you feel so good the next morning, you feel like crap.
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But with Jesus, it's continued and it continues to get better, which I think is such a beautiful notion because when you develop that relationship, it only gets stronger.
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And like, even for me, I grew up very religious.
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Jesus, you know, was all over the house.
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My parents have a very large picture of Jesus still in their house, which I love.
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But you know, I had no relationship with Jesus.
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It wasn't until I chose to, and I'm still working on my relationship with Jesus, right?
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Like it's not, it's not done.
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We're still growing together, but that's the beauty of it is that it continues to grow, it continues to last.
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You continue to be surprised.
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You even mentioned, right, there are requirements.
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Like sometimes you got to do things that are hard.
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And I know it must have been hard for you, Lori.
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I wonder if you could speak on this because you did have a lot of social media followers when you were um in the spiritual spirituality realm, in the mystic realm, um, in that space.
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And when you decided to bring Jesus into your space, you mentioned it a little bit.
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I just, I just commend you for doing that.
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I think that's a really difficult thing to do, especially in this modern era of social media.
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Because ever, like you said, everybody has opinions.
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Everybody wants, you know, to challenge you, say they're right, you're wrong.
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So I wonder if you could speak on that a little bit too, because I'm sure that was something Jesus said, like, hey, this is gonna be hard, but you know, I want you to do it.
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I don't know.
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I'm thinking that's what that was about, but I just want to commend you.
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But you know, that is the confidence that Jesus gives too.
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I know you shared that as well, but I'm sure that was difficult.
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Yeah, the it's a great what you were saying about how the relationship.
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First of all, I just find it so insanely like WTF that I'll never get over this for the rest of my life.
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That there is a man that's not actually, I mean, he's alive.
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Okay, yes, he's alive, but he's not actually physically living, okay.
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Right, right, that legit is uh healing people's lives every day.
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Like, I don't think people be unfortunately, because of the programming of Jesus, people can't really, if you don't um if you if you have a a a dis dis uh you know, you're kind of like you're not really a big fan of Jesus, you can't really comprehend just what he's actually doing.
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And it when you start to look at what he's actually doing, it is the most profound freaking thing on the planet.
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There's no other teacher, master, spiritual teacher, there's nobody else on the planet in the history of this planet that is doing or has done what Jesus is currently doing on the planet.
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Now, because it's based in a religion, people, you know, they poo-poo it or they push it aside, but it's it's it's it's mind-blowing that he's capable of healing people of almost anything.
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And he's not physically on the he's not doing, he's not in front of you.
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Like, make that make sense.
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And I don't think we're giving that enough credit.
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Like, I'm sorry, but it's like let's say Jesus wasn't the name Jesus, right?
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And he was a different name.
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And we're like, dude, there's this thing you can call in.
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And if you call him in over and over and you sit with him, he's gonna heal everything.
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Do you know how many people would be standing in line, being like, okay, I'm I want that?
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But because his name is Jesus, and because he's associated with, oh, he's the only way to God.
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And if you don't follow him, you're gonna go to hell, and like all these stories around him, a huge percentage of people won't won't won't knock on the door, you know?
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And it's like, dude, is anybody else noticing how insane this is?
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Like, Kylie, you're like, oh yeah, the alcohol was just taken.
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It's like the more I see these things happen in my life with him, I'm like, wait, you just took that eating disorder pattern that I had since I was six.
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Like, it's literally gone.
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Like, how did you do that?
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You know, it's like, it's gone.
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You know, um, patterns of be uh relationship patterns with men.
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Gone.
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And when I say gone, like it's not in my, it's gone.
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It's like where, like, like I never had it.
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Right?
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Like what?
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It's mind-bending to me.
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And it's also mind-bending because I remember when I was like, okay, it was Jesus that removed my cravings.
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And I'm like, oh, I'm a Christian.
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It made it all makes sense.
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I'm a Christian.
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And so, and so I'm like talking to Christians and I'm like telling them my story, and they're like, wow, that's amazing.
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And but it's also like, well, you're not doing the right thing, like you're not going to church.
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What church are you in?
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And it's like hilarious because I'm like, you guys claim this guy, but like you're like nothing has changed within you.
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And so I remember just being in this space where I was just like, Who am I?
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Like, what do you want from me?
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So it was just, yeah, it's baffling that he has this much power, but still Christians that claim him, like, I don't know.
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.599
It, but that's my personal experience.
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.079
I mean, that's everywhere in the world, you know.
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:50.960
Like, you know, there's um, you know, my my hope is that, and Julie, you asked about like my community.
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.160
My hope, I have a different unique path with Jesus.
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.720
And I'm getting, I'm becoming more and more familiar with what that is.
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:02.960
Cause Kylie, like you were saying, like I didn't know, like as I was like, oh my God, am I a Christian all of a sudden?
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.240
I can't all of a sudden be a Christian.
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.680
How am I gonna be a Christian and teach what I teach about consciousness and evolution?
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.759
Like, I at least know that I'm I know for sure I'm supposed to talk about evolution and consciousness.
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But if I'm a Christian, like, how am I supposed to be a Christian?
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.119
Like I had like a real come to Jesus legit.
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Um, and then it became very clear like, no, here's what we're doing together.
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And so I had to kind of peel it apart and really really sit with it.
00:30:28.799 --> 00:31:03.200
Um, but the more I sit with Jesus, the more I understand, and the more I read the wrote the book, the more I understood the role he wants me to play with him is trying to dissolve the programs around him and on both sides or on every side, and try to get people to see him without any blinders on, like without any way.
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:15.519
Just can you just throw those aside for a moment and see what happens if you invite him in and and then letting him do the rest of the work, right?
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:37.680
Um because I believe there are a large percentage of people that know Jesus in terms of knowledge and information, but they don't they don't follow him, right?
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.000
And there's a big difference.
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.839
Yeah, and you you mentioned this and we've kind of talked about it, but I just want to be direct.
00:31:46.079 --> 00:32:01.759
So what is the difference between inviting Jesus in versus almost like converting to like a belief system, a religion in a way?
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:11.920
Because I think that people can get a little confused, like, okay, if I invite in Jesus, then does that mean I have to like be a Christian?
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.240
So if you can speak on that.
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:30.799
Yeah, I mean, again, I've sort of dropped into this place of like, I don't know what what's gonna happen on your path, but it absolutely does not mean that this is what I say, because this is what happened to me.
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:39.039
You know, when I first started inviting Jesus in, I was like, okay, listen, I'll sit with you, but I don't believe this, and I don't believe this, and I don't believe this.
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.720
These are the things I this, these are my absolute, I I can't, I'm I'll never believe these things, right?
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.240
Like, and so he's just like, whatever, he could care less.
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:53.680
He just wants me to sit with him because he knows at the end of the day he's gonna change everything and he's gonna show me everything, right?
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.079
Yeah.
00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:22.319
Um, so I always say to people, like, forget about what you do or don't believe, you know, or I don't want to be a Christian, like I, you know, or I don't want to have to go to church, or I don't want to have to read the Bible, whatever that those things are, just place those on a little, you know, uh bookcase and just start with inviting him into your life, which just means once a day, twice a day, three times a day, you just invite Jesus to come in.
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.960
Like Jesus, come sit with me, Jesus come walk with me, Jesus, come hang out with me while I'm cooking.
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:39.119
And again, there's no you may not feel anything, or maybe you do, or maybe some days you do, some days you don't, but um that is all that matters in my experience, because that's all that I did.
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:47.759
And then eventually over time, if I committed to that, if I committed every day, that's the that's what changes your life.
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.759
If you do it once a week, not much is gonna change.
00:33:51.920 --> 00:34:00.160
If you do it every single day and you commit to him, he'll change your entire life and he'll show you the path he wants you to go down.
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:29.199
Um but I think there are pros and cons with religion, and so um it's never been the path I've taken only because it's just not what he's invited me to walk down.
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:37.199
Um I'm trying to be very, very cautious.
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:57.039
Um, and there's certain things that he's it's an interesting walk because at the end of the day, as long as Jesus is in your life, that's all that really matters.
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:58.239
Do you know what I mean?
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.719
Yeah, um it's a mystery.
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:08.000
It's kind of like, yeah, he he he says to me, and he was telling me this morning, he goes, Lori, it doesn't matter as long as I'm in their lives, right?
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.280
And I was like, Oh yeah, you're right.
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:10.320
It really doesn't matter.
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.119
Like exactly he's in their lives.
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:30.000
I was thinking too, I know Kylie, you really uh when your cravings were taken from you, I remember you shared on one of our episodes that the story of the lost sheep, you know, that that Jesus would leave the 99 to find the one.
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.239
Like you really connected with that.
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:34.400
And I think that's my little picture here.
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.400
Ah, oh my gosh.
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.159
And I was just thinking, I was like, oh, that must be a really beautiful artwork.
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.719
Um, and Lori just moved moved her head and there's Jesus with a little sheep.
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.360
How cute.
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.960
I bought that um awesome art that's very similar uh for Kylie this Christmas.
00:35:51.199 --> 00:36:08.159
But I think when you find something that Jesus um represents that that resonates with you, that is really the first personally, right?
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.840
And and obviously we're not like, okay, now you need to open up your Bible and find part of the gospel that resonates.
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:14.880
No, we're not saying that.
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:21.760
But once you find something about Jesus that resonates with you, that's the part when you start to open that door.
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:35.760
And that I have this image, I think this is from uh scripture where this image comes from, comes from, but it's in P, it's like an artwork or like some art that I've seen before, and it's a picture of a door and Jesus is standing right outside of it.
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.880
Um, I can't think of like the scripture where this comes from, but you know, there's no handle on the door.
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:46.000
Jesus doesn't have a handle on his side of the door, but you know, you're on the other side.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.239
And so if you open the door, just a crack to Jesus, you're welcoming him in, right?
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.800
And he can't open that door for you.
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:12.880
So whether it is inviting him into your kitchen to cook with you, inviting him into your car, if it's just thinking about how he would literally leave every other single sheep in his flock to go find you, or that he loves you.
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Jesus loves you.
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:22.320
I sing to my daughter a song that I grew up singing and listening to my mom sing to me.
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Jesus loves me.
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.639
This I know, you know, and so it's what are those little pieces of Jesus?
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.199
And Aaron Abke on his Jesus Way podcast.
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:37.280
I don't know if you've listened to that, but he talks about, you know, Jesus is God, God is all-loving, all-encompassing.
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.239
Like there's these parts to Jesus we know are true.
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.639
And I don't necessarily need to see scripture that reminds me that.
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.639
I don't need somebody to tell me that.
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.239
I know that Jesus loves me no matter what.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:38:00.079
And, you know, that's sometimes I feel like the first thing you gotta do is just find that peace where you can start to build that relationship.
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.320
I don't know.
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.000
Yeah, and it's different for everybody.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:08.960
That's the cool part.
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.599
Yeah, it's different for everybody.
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.760
And um, man, my my mind just went completely blank.
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.320
It's so weird.
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:20.480
It just blanked.
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:27.440
Um about Jesus or about what I said, just went blank.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.719
What were you just saying?
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:29.840
What were you just talking about?
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.239
Well, just that you find the in, right?
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.920
Like the way that you evolved your relationship to Jesus and and just separate from religion, right?
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:44.000
You can go to church, and if that resonates with you, if if that's a way to find Jesus, we love stories for you.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.880
Yeah, stories in the Bible, they're so freaking fun.
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:53.760
So this is how Jesus blew my mind because I was like a staunch no Bible Jesus.
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.440
Like, I'm a no Bible, I'm a no Bible girl.
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:01.039
Okay, so I'll do this with you, but no Bible.
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.519
And all of a sudden he'd be like, open up the Bible.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.800
First of all, get the Bible.
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.079
So then I got this amazing Bible, and then it was like, okay, sit with me.
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.239
So I I used not used to, I still do.
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.320
I sit at least 30 minutes, sometimes an hour every single day with him.
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.519
It's a non-negotiable for the most part.
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:25.280
And so um he'll say, start saying, open your Bible, or he'll say, I want you to read all of Matthew.
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And I'm like, excuse me, come again.
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:32.960
And so when I first started to read the Bible, I had my own egoic like guard up.
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I was like, this is nonsense, this is stupid, it's all judgmental, right?
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.800
So, like my frame of my beliefs framed how I interpreted the Bible in the beginning.
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.719
I was very stubborn Lori.
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Um, and over time I started to soften to the Bible, and I was like, holy, holy cow, wait a second.
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.519
And then I started really understanding the power of the Bible.
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.639
And then I started, and then as Jesus was teaching me separate from the Bible, right?
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.519
So there was a method to Jesus' madness.
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.440
Like he would teach me, and then he would say, now go look at this part of the Bible.
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:19.679
So then I would go read it, and I was like, Oh, you were talking about this part of the spiritual battle.
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.320
Like, yay, they kind of have it right, but also they don't have it right.
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.599
Like, like they do have it right, but then they don't have it right.
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:42.960
Like, and he was showing me how he was like the things that he was saying, like the Holy Spirit coming in and the dove, and the like there's just so many things in the Bible where I'm like, oh my God, like holy cow.
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:51.840
The these things are just they that when you can grab what he said and hold on to it for dear life, it really helps.
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:58.480
You know, when you can open the Bible and just sit with his word, it really helps because you can anchor that.
00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.519
It's alive.
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.119
The the gospels are alive, the red letters, they're alive.
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.400
They're you feel close to him, you know?
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:22.800
Yeah, that that resonates with me because I went straight to I tried to start the Bible and I went through like the first, I think I stopped at numbers, and then I was like, this isn't penetrating me at all in a way, and so I started.
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.679
I was like, okay, I want to get to what he said.
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:37.360
And so focusing on his teachings has allowed me to um follow him in a way through through the red letters.
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.079
So I, you know, if I can say I'm a red letter Christian, I would say I'm a red letter Christian because I really just focus on on him.
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:46.639
Yeah, me too.
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:48.000
Me too.
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:57.840
I've tried to read the other stuff, and there's some stuff that I do read, but um for me, it's like I don't I don't want to read before Jesus.
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.199
I mean, I understand it's powerful.
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.960
I don't really want to read before Jesus, even though I know it was Jesus because Jesus was God.
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.599
I just want to know, I just want to read when he was here.
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.119
I want to read what he did.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.119
I want to hear stories, you know.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:15.199
Um and yeah, so I f that's what I what I what I tend to focus on.
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.440
I've tried to read a lot of the Paul, but I I just can't.
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:27.119
Um, you know, there's some stuff that uh that resonates with what Jesus is teaching me for sure.
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.280
Um, there's a handful of things.
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:36.159
Again, what what Jesus will do with me is he'll teach me something and then he'll say, Now go read this piece, and then I'll go and I'll be like, holy cow.
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:36.559
Okay.
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.239
So he wants me to understand the power of the Bible.
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:41.360
That's cool.
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:47.920
Um, but yeah, like there's a lot that has been distorted, I believe.
00:42:48.639 --> 00:43:10.639
Yeah, I think understanding, and Kylie's done, I know you've done like some good work in this, just understanding the historical context of the Bible helps a lot to be like, oh, and and when people, my biggest pet peeve, I'm just gonna say it, when people quote the Bible as fact, as it was said in the Bible, so it's law.
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.400
And it's like, hmm, well, let's think about who wrote that.
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.320
Number one, the the time period it was written in.
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:30.719
And I truly think that the power of the Bible and the power of scripture is that it's not about what was written and what was, you know, directly said to the people who were alive at that time.
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.960
It's about what was taught, what was what was the message and how does it relate to my current life?
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.360
How does it relate to where I'm currently living?
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.639
You mentioned too, Jesus is alive.
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:43.199
Okay.
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.039
So it's like people want to read the Bible.
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.960
It's like, well, Jesus said this, and and you know, he said to do this, this, this.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:50.000
It's like, well, guess what?
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:59.679
I'm reading the Bible now, and Jesus is telling me now what to do because he's alive in me, and we're walking this, you know, modern.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.760
Era together.
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.239
So it needs to change a little bit.
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.320
It needs to be, um, I don't know what's a good word.
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:17.280
Um, it needs to be used as like a tool for today's world, not exactly what was said.
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.840
That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to the Bible.
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.000
And I'm kind of similar to you, Lori.
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:35.119
I when I first um, you know, started my own like spiritual journey, not when I was younger and hearing scripture in church, but I'm like, the Bible just didn't do it for me.
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:36.719
And it still kind of doesn't.
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:43.280
Maybe that's something that I need to grow into too, but I'm aligned with you on that for sure.
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:48.559
Yeah.
00:44:48.800 --> 00:45:01.679
Yeah, I mean, I think I just come back to, and this is what I try to teach, like, you know, there's a I think there's a lot of teachings.
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:09.760
Well, a lot of what Jesus has taught me is so much more than just what's in the Bible.
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:56.639
And but it's also it's um it's understanding the power of bringing God back into your life, the power of bringing that Holy Spirit and back into your life, the holy, that holy light back in, and and really understanding, in my opinion, in my belief, based on what he shared with me, is the reason we are the way we are right now on this planet is because that divine connection was distorted a long time ago.
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:15.280
And the key to all of this is to reconnect back into that holy light, that Holy Spirit, which is why to me, one of the most important moments in the Bible is when Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit came back, came into his body.
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.760
And the reason I think that's the most important is he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come into his body.
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.719
He was God, he was divine, he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come in.
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.840
So, why did he want everyone to see the Holy Spirit come in?
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.719
Why did he want that to be something that people saw?
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.480
Why was that so important?
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:42.639
Um, and that to me is the foundation of Jesus.
00:46:43.599 --> 00:47:04.559
Is that's why he is the way because he's reconnecting us back not only into creator, the creator source of all life, but he's he's bringing God back into our bodies.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:12.880
And when that happens, we start all the things we've been talking about start happening.
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:21.840
And it's not because Jesus is like the magic maker, even though he is the miracle maker, that's not what he wants to be.
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.440
He wants to bring us back to God.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:34.480
And yes, that is sort of the foundation of what he's been trying to teach me.
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:43.920
And you know, trying to peel apart all the ways that everybody sees Jesus, including myself, to be able to get really clear.
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:54.880
Because once you have that foundation of understanding, at least for myself, then everything else becomes sort of like extra stuff that's part of his teachings.
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:13.599
But for me, that's really the foundation, like, wow, okay, so we were we were attacked basically by, you know, you can call them fallen angels or you can call them, you know, hybrid things or intergalactic or whatever you want to call them, but they infiltrated the planet in a way that distorted our divine connection to God.
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.039
And so this is all about coming back to that.
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.400
And Jesus came in to say, hey, I'm I'm the way there.
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I'm gonna show you how to do it.
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:22.559
Yeah.
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.800
And then there's all this other stuff that you know is piled on top of that now.
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:27.280
Yeah.
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:48.639
And what made sense to me on this, and we'll wrap it up after this, um, is that um Jesus, the man that walked on this planet, he has authorization to activate that Holy Spirit and that God light through us.
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.199
And when that hit me, holy cow.
00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:02.400
It just like, and then I and then I just felt this like sense of relief because I was like, okay, like I don't have to do all of this heavy lifting.
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.599
I don't, I just have to like let him do it, let him show me the way.
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:16.239
And he's the only one that has authority to get rid of the demonic energies in us.
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.159
Yeah, it's only him.
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:19.199
And why is that?
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:28.000
So he's the authority of really connecting us back into God, and we can argue that because we will, people will argue that, sure.
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.920
Yeah, but you don't know until you know, you don't know until you feel it, right?
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.599
Then you're like, oh, shiitake mushrooms, this is actually God.
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.440
I thought I was God this whole time.
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.840
And it's like you don't know that you're not with God until you're with God.
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.920
And then you realize, oh my God, I was never actually with God.
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:56.960
And then the next thing is he's the only name that gets rid of demons, and demons are real, and demons and infiltrated parasitic thoughts are what control this whole planet.
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.039
He is the only one that gets rid of it.
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:10.239
You can do all the energy work, you can do all the chakras, you can do all the whatever you want to do, but it won't, you're still gonna be in the loops, you're still gonna be in the loop of it all.
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:16.960
It's it and that really, those two things are what like blew my mind.
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Yeah.
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:19.840
Like what?
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:29.440
Like I could call on any ascended master, any angel, or any teach spiritual teacher on the planet, and nothing happens, but you call Jesus in, and it's like boom.
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100%.
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:40.239
And Julie and I talk about this all the time, and Justin, and we're just always like laughing and crying, and like, this is so wild.
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But you could talk about it infinite ways and still like be so astounded by it.
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Absolutely.
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Well, thank you, Lori, for being with us today.
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This was such a fun conversation just hearing from you about your relationship with Jesus and the insight that you can give us uh on growing our own relationship with Jesus and and growing deeper into that relationship every single day, surrendering to him.
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That was just so beautiful.
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Thank you so much for being here.
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:16.880
Yeah, thanks, ladies, for having me.
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Um, I always want to talk about Jesus, so I love it.
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I love it so much.
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I'm so grateful that you um answered my message when I just reached out to you as a stranger.
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And so I just thank you.
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Talk about Jesus.
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Oh my goodness.
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That was definitely spirit-led.
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Yeah, and just your generosity of your time um and your commitment to um just help people bring God back into their life.
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Yeah.
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So thank you.
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Um, and we're just so grateful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:53.039
And where can our listeners um get in touch with you?
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Or um if they want to know more about you or follow you, where can they go?
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Yeah, they can um go to Lori L-O-R-I-E-L A D D dot com.
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That's my website.
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:09.280
And then Lori underscore lad is Instagram and YouTube and Facebook.
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.880
Yeah, definitely check her out on social media.
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.480
You post amazing videos.
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Every time I watch one of your videos, I'm like lit up from the inside.
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Like, okay.
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She has a gift, yes.
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She's she knows something is so I love it.
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So definitely check her out on our social media pages.
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.960
Um, but thank you so much.
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:39.119
And uh, we would love to have you back on too if you're ever interested, because this was such an interesting conversation.
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Uh yeah, for sure.
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Yay! Well, thank you for listening.
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This has been the Miracle Path Podcast, and we'll see you guys next time.
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Bye bye.
