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Speaker 1: Andrew Saville, Jason Pine, morning.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Jason.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: You heard from your producer?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard from him late last night, but I couldn't understand the message. He's a Newcastle Knights fan. He, yeah, I got a number of messages from him. I haven't heard from him this morning. I hope he gets home okay.
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Speaker 2: Geez, imagine if that won then.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Well-known pisshead or not really?
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Speaker 4: Oh, no, absolutely. Generational.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Renowned up and down the country for that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So you held your show together all right yesterday while he was out there on the Terps?
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Speaker 4: Oh, standout. Award-winning stuff.
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Speaker 2: Mike, did you stay up late? Little Michael stayed up late last night to watch the Grand Final and the Grand Prix.
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Speaker 1: The secret to my success is my discipline. And so thank goodness I didn't because I was in that tempted mode. At 8 o'clock, I thought, geez, I can push this one. But I didn't. And thank the good Lord I didn't because what a rain-infested cluster that turned.
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Speaker 2: Out to be. I tell you what, the remote thumb was working overtime last night because they pretty much started at the same time, the F1 and the league grand final. So what a night to be a sports fan. I watched both this morning. It was a bit of a shambles at the start of that race, but well done, Liam Lawson, for getting up to fourth on the first corner and then keeping his nose clean pretty much for the rest of the race.
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Speaker 1: One of his great strengths, if people don't follow F1, is he's a great holder of positions, and the only thing he gets caught on is lack of pace. I mean, he can't help the car doesn't go fast enough down a back straight. But if he battles his way to wherever he battles himself to, he can defend brilliantly. He's a fantastic. And so he had a fantastic race. That's a good question. I love playing these games, Sav. You could only watch one now. Which was the better of the events?
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Speaker 2: Grand final.
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Speaker 1: Because of the one point.
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Speaker 2: The drama early on in the F1, given the conditions, good watch, but the grand final, the atmosphere, the build-up, the performances of both teams, what a cracker of a game, which could have gone either way, let's face it.
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Speaker 1: That is true. I would have chosen the F1.
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Speaker 4: I was watching both. There was a point at which....
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Speaker 3: Liam was on hard tyres, and this is a little bit beyond my real in-depth knowledge, but he was on hard tyres. Everybody in front of him wasn't, and there was a thought that he might be able to get all the way to the end without having to pit.
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Speaker 4: So at that point, I was thinking, could Liam be on the podium?
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Speaker 3: It didn't work out that way, but it was compelling viewing, and he's got to be delighted with that. I know he'll be annoyed. He was third, fourth on the first lap, and it's just pace really that the other cars have. I mean, with your foot It's flat on the accelerator. You can't go any faster than your car will go.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 4: So good on them.
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Speaker 3: And seventh, running out of excuses, aren't they, Red Bull, not to sign him for next year. But, yeah, I enjoyed the rugby league. But, yeah, it was a bit farcical, wasn't it, before that race? And you couldn't work out one of those formation laps.
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Speaker 1: It's the fragility of the cars. I don't know that we're necessarily advancing technologically when it rains and a car doesn't work. I thought we'd got past that particular technical fault, hadn't we? Hey, can we spend some time? I actually happened to watch Taranaki yesterday for a little bit anyway. That was a nice sunny day and the Barrett brothers were turning out. I didn't realise, sorry to what I think is rubbing it in, Joe, I didn't realise Wellington was so useless. When did they get to be so useless?
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah. 0-10.
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Speaker 3: Worst season in their history. And in those 10 games, they conceded 500 points. So, look, it's been a pretty sorry tale. And astonishingly, really, given the Hurricanes won Super Rugby, so... so convincingly. And then the anchor team and their franchises had just an absolute horror.
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Speaker 2: So it's hard to understand. Is it because of the Hurricanes' success? They got more players than the All Blacks. That thinned out their ranks. And maybe they reached such a peak in super rugby that the MPC was a big comedown.
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Speaker 3: I mean, potentially, a lot of those players, though, they play for other franchises. And yes, they were always going to lose a couple out of You know, Wellington sort of expect to lose a couple to the All Blacks, but I just think the depth and initially anyway as well, they brought in players from overseas, which didn't go down well in club circles.
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Speaker 1: Guys, guys, guys, guys, I'm getting the word in from Glenn. He doesn't want to go on air with us, but he says there's some sort of selection scandal with the locals down there. Do you know about that? Do we know about any of this?
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Speaker 3: Just that basically they went with overseas players. If you're going to lose, lose with locals.
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Speaker 4: And that's what they ended up doing.
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Speaker 1: We've got to talk about Hadley. Do you want to talk about Hadley, Sab, being a good Cantabrian man and all that sort of stuff?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I suppose so, Michael.
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Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to if you don't. You can leave the program now if you don't want to. I mean, show some enthusiasm.
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: You sound like Chipkins. I mean, what's going on?
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Speaker 4: It was a late night.
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Speaker 2: I'll hang around after the ads.
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Speaker 4: Oh, please.
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Speaker 2: Thanks.
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Speaker 1: That's so kind of you. Don't forget to mention Steve Elker winning another senior PGA title this morning. There you go. Just did it. So I thought over the weekend, Sav, when I heard, I mean, there's certain people in sport you simply have to stop and listen to, and Hadley's.
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Speaker 2: One of them. Yes, yes.
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Speaker 1: And is there a single sport in this country that's run properly? I mean, is there a single sport now? Because I chat GPT'd. I said, name me some sports that have run into trouble in New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: The list would have been lengthy, Mike. I don't know whether it's in a lot of these sports, it's personalities, it's politics, it's money. But yes, you do have to listen to our greatest ever cricketer when he voices concerns about Like he has. And it's over this review into what the future of T20 in this country should look like. And I do find it quite odd that he was part of the review and someone like Leslie Murdoch was as well. Another one of our greats who has a massive standing in the game. And they haven't seen or they haven't been allowed to see the review.
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Speaker 1: And they were told they would. And they write to them and say, give me a copy, and they don't get one. What the hell is that about?
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Speaker 2: It's very bizarre. Is it NZ cricket not wanting anybody to see the findings because it might have led them down a different path? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Is there something about Jason Fiefdoms? Do you get on a board of one of these things and you sort of start building your fiefdom and you become a prat? What happens to these people?
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I've got a slightly different view.
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Speaker 3: It feels to me as though Sir Richard Hadley is just a bit annoyed that his recommendation to the Deloitte report wasn't the one that was adopted by New Zealand cricket.
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Speaker 1: Well, all right.
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Speaker 3: I still fail to see how entering a team or teams in the big bash helps to develop our top cricketers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's fine. But what about Murdoch? If you're part of the review and you are given a copy of the review and it goes against what you recommended, fair cock. If they come up with an idea and they present it properly and the review says, no, let's not go into the big bash, which it has, this is why, and you get to see the review, fair cop.
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Speaker 3: Why does it matter, though, Sav? Why does it matter that the outcome's the same?
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Speaker 1: Because they told you you were going to get a copy. And if they participated on the basis, they'd see what they discovered.
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Speaker 3: All right, so, OK, so they give him a copy of the report and Sir Richard Hadley reads it and says, OK, I see you've gone with NZ20 rather than.
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Speaker 4: The Big Bash. So what?
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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, does he say, OK, fair cop? Does he say that? I just think he's annoyed. As are a lot of the generation, the same generation as Sir Richard Hadley, who seem to be the ones who have jumped on social media over the weekend, you know, reposting these articles.
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Speaker 4: They're all of a similar generation.
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Speaker 1: Is it the boomers? Are you blaming the boomers, Jason?
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Speaker 4: The current Blackhams. No, I'm not. I'm that generation, too.
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Speaker 1: I used to love watching the original of them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the current generation of black apps all said, we want a domestic-based NZ franchise competition. So aren't their opinions a lot more valid than those who aren't playing the game anymore?
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Speaker 2: The problem is, Jason, is the NZ20 actually going to start? I think it's next summer, isn't it? apparently, and is it going to work when there's other T20 competitions on at the same time around the world?
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Speaker 1: There's no money in sport. And the point.
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Speaker 2: Is, you invite our greatest ever cricketer to be part of review, but you don't let him see the review findings. It's bizarre.
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Speaker 4: Do we know that that's actually true?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what he's saying.
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Speaker 1: What are you calling Richard Hadley a liar, Jason?
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 1: I just want... Hadley's a legend.
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Speaker 3: I've got the greatest respect for Sir Richard Hadley, but why wouldn't New Zealand cricket give up the review? If they've promised transparency, then I'm sure that they'll deliver transparency.
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Speaker 1: People who run sport in this country are weirdos. How much evidence do you want? There's something wrong with sports administration in this country. There's too much evidence to suggest otherwise. How much time have you spent on your programme on this?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a great shame that with such an exciting summer of cricket coming up, India here formats us to Australia, that this is what we're talking about when it comes to cricket.
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Speaker 4: And if Andy wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Across the Tasman getting drunk all the time, would you have a better programme?
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's almost certainly true.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, just back to the rugby league. If the Dallium had been awarded last night or this week, would Caelan Ponga have won it for the best player?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a bad point. I mean, the Webster thing, as much as I love Webster and no one's in love with Webster more than I am, is I looked at the bloke who took the Knights pretty much all the way and you've got to ask some pretty serious questions about that decision, don't you?
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Speaker 2: And Caleb Ponger is now obviously going to play for the Kiwis next week, and what a team the Kiwis are going to have against Australia. It should be a massive test that won in Sydney.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd hope so. Bathurst this weekend, how much time will you dedicate, Sab, to that?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I do like watching the start and the middle.
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Speaker 4: And the finish.
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Speaker 1: Just the first lap and you leave it for the next 500?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no. A couple of laps. See if there's any drama. The middle stages where they swap drivers and they have to change the seat. You know, the drink bottles and they push each other in and out of the car like that.
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Speaker 1: And then the finish.
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Speaker 4: I remember last year. It was so dramatic last year. Don't you remember how gripping it was? One of the great races.
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Speaker 1: You remember Conrad Strait pouring with rain. Matthew Payne loses it on the edge of the track. He's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling. He gets it back on the track. He wins the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: You know why I like the driver swap? Have you ever tried to fit into one of those cars?
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Speaker 1: I've been in a car like that many, many times, but I know what you're saying. I mean, from your point of view, nigh on impossible, little guy like me, no problem. You've got to be flexible in the middle, Sav.
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Speaker 2: I remember getting into a single-seater once, and there was a suggestion from the mechanic that they oil me up both sides with grease.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a Formula Ford?
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Speaker 2: I've been in a Toyota Racing Series single-seater.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're small enough. Get into a Formula Ford. I'd love to see you in a Formula Ford. That'd be a sight for sore eyes.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a monkey riding one of those little mini bicycles?
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Speaker 1: LAUGHTER Nice to see you guys. Good luck with your producer, Jason. Hope you find him and he clears customs. Jason Pine and Andrew Saville.
Speaker 1: Andrew Saville, Jason Pine, morning.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Jason.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: You heard from your producer?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard from him late last night, but I couldn't understand the message. He's a Newcastle Knights fan. He, yeah, I got a number of messages from him. I haven't heard from him this morning. I hope he gets home okay.
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Speaker 2: Geez, imagine if that won then.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Well-known pisshead or not really?
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Speaker 4: Oh, no, absolutely. Generational.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Renowned up and down the country for that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So you held your show together all right yesterday while he was out there on the Terps?
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Speaker 4: Oh, standout. Award-winning stuff.
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Speaker 2: Mike, did you stay up late? Little Michael stayed up late last night to watch the Grand Final and the Grand Prix.
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Speaker 1: The secret to my success is my discipline. And so thank goodness I didn't because I was in that tempted mode. At 8 o'clock, I thought, geez, I can push this one. But I didn't. And thank the good Lord I didn't because what a rain-infested cluster that turned.
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Speaker 2: Out to be. I tell you what, the remote thumb was working overtime last night because they pretty much started at the same time, the F1 and the league grand final. So what a night to be a sports fan. I watched both this morning. It was a bit of a shambles at the start of that race, but well done, Liam Lawson, for getting up to fourth on the first corner and then keeping his nose clean pretty much for the rest of the race.
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Speaker 1: One of his great strengths, if people don't follow F1, is he's a great holder of positions, and the only thing he gets caught on is lack of pace. I mean, he can't help the car doesn't go fast enough down a back straight. But if he battles his way to wherever he battles himself to, he can defend brilliantly. He's a fantastic. And so he had a fantastic race. That's a good question. I love playing these games, Sav. You could only watch one now. Which was the better of the events?
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Speaker 2: Grand final.
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Speaker 1: Because of the one point.
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Speaker 2: The drama early on in the F1, given the conditions, good watch, but the grand final, the atmosphere, the build-up, the performances of both teams, what a cracker of a game, which could have gone either way, let's face it.
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Speaker 1: That is true. I would have chosen the F1.
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Speaker 4: I was watching both. There was a point at which....
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Speaker 3: Liam was on hard tyres, and this is a little bit beyond my real in-depth knowledge, but he was on hard tyres. Everybody in front of him wasn't, and there was a thought that he might be able to get all the way to the end without having to pit.
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Speaker 4: So at that point, I was thinking, could Liam be on the podium?
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Speaker 3: It didn't work out that way, but it was compelling viewing, and he's got to be delighted with that. I know he'll be annoyed. He was third, fourth on the first lap, and it's just pace really that the other cars have. I mean, with your foot It's flat on the accelerator. You can't go any faster than your car will go.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 4: So good on them.
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Speaker 3: And seventh, running out of excuses, aren't they, Red Bull, not to sign him for next year. But, yeah, I enjoyed the rugby league. But, yeah, it was a bit farcical, wasn't it, before that race? And you couldn't work out one of those formation laps.
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Speaker 1: It's the fragility of the cars. I don't know that we're necessarily advancing technologically when it rains and a car doesn't work. I thought we'd got past that particular technical fault, hadn't we? Hey, can we spend some time? I actually happened to watch Taranaki yesterday for a little bit anyway. That was a nice sunny day and the Barrett brothers were turning out. I didn't realise, sorry to what I think is rubbing it in, Joe, I didn't realise Wellington was so useless. When did they get to be so useless?
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah. 0-10.
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Speaker 3: Worst season in their history. And in those 10 games, they conceded 500 points. So, look, it's been a pretty sorry tale. And astonishingly, really, given the Hurricanes won Super Rugby, so... so convincingly. And then the anchor team and their franchises had just an absolute horror.
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Speaker 2: So it's hard to understand. Is it because of the Hurricanes' success? They got more players than the All Blacks. That thinned out their ranks. And maybe they reached such a peak in super rugby that the MPC was a big comedown.
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Speaker 3: I mean, potentially, a lot of those players, though, they play for other franchises. And yes, they were always going to lose a couple out of You know, Wellington sort of expect to lose a couple to the All Blacks, but I just think the depth and initially anyway as well, they brought in players from overseas, which didn't go down well in club circles.
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Speaker 1: Guys, guys, guys, guys, I'm getting the word in from Glenn. He doesn't want to go on air with us, but he says there's some sort of selection scandal with the locals down there. Do you know about that? Do we know about any of this?
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Speaker 3: Just that basically they went with overseas players. If you're going to lose, lose with locals.
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Speaker 4: And that's what they ended up doing.
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Speaker 1: We've got to talk about Hadley. Do you want to talk about Hadley, Sab, being a good Cantabrian man and all that sort of stuff?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I suppose so, Michael.
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Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to if you don't. You can leave the program now if you don't want to. I mean, show some enthusiasm.
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: You sound like Chipkins. I mean, what's going on?
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Speaker 4: It was a late night.
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Speaker 2: I'll hang around after the ads.
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Speaker 4: Oh, please.
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Speaker 2: Thanks.
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Speaker 1: That's so kind of you. Don't forget to mention Steve Elker winning another senior PGA title this morning. There you go. Just did it. So I thought over the weekend, Sav, when I heard, I mean, there's certain people in sport you simply have to stop and listen to, and Hadley's.
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Speaker 2: One of them. Yes, yes.
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Speaker 1: And is there a single sport in this country that's run properly? I mean, is there a single sport now? Because I chat GPT'd. I said, name me some sports that have run into trouble in New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: The list would have been lengthy, Mike. I don't know whether it's in a lot of these sports, it's personalities, it's politics, it's money. But yes, you do have to listen to our greatest ever cricketer when he voices concerns about Like he has. And it's over this review into what the future of T20 in this country should look like. And I do find it quite odd that he was part of the review and someone like Leslie Murdoch was as well. Another one of our greats who has a massive standing in the game. And they haven't seen or they haven't been allowed to see the review.
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Speaker 1: And they were told they would. And they write to them and say, give me a copy, and they don't get one. What the hell is that about?
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Speaker 2: It's very bizarre. Is it NZ cricket not wanting anybody to see the findings because it might have led them down a different path? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Is there something about Jason Fiefdoms? Do you get on a board of one of these things and you sort of start building your fiefdom and you become a prat? What happens to these people?
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I've got a slightly different view.
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Speaker 3: It feels to me as though Sir Richard Hadley is just a bit annoyed that his recommendation to the Deloitte report wasn't the one that was adopted by New Zealand cricket.
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Speaker 1: Well, all right.
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Speaker 3: I still fail to see how entering a team or teams in the big bash helps to develop our top cricketers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's fine. But what about Murdoch? If you're part of the review and you are given a copy of the review and it goes against what you recommended, fair cock. If they come up with an idea and they present it properly and the review says, no, let's not go into the big bash, which it has, this is why, and you get to see the review, fair cop.
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Speaker 3: Why does it matter, though, Sav? Why does it matter that the outcome's the same?
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Speaker 1: Because they told you you were going to get a copy. And if they participated on the basis, they'd see what they discovered.
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Speaker 3: All right, so, OK, so they give him a copy of the report and Sir Richard Hadley reads it and says, OK, I see you've gone with NZ20 rather than.
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Speaker 4: The Big Bash. So what?
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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, does he say, OK, fair cop? Does he say that? I just think he's annoyed. As are a lot of the generation, the same generation as Sir Richard Hadley, who seem to be the ones who have jumped on social media over the weekend, you know, reposting these articles.
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Speaker 4: They're all of a similar generation.
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Speaker 1: Is it the boomers? Are you blaming the boomers, Jason?
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Speaker 4: The current Blackhams. No, I'm not. I'm that generation, too.
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Speaker 1: I used to love watching the original of them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the current generation of black apps all said, we want a domestic-based NZ franchise competition. So aren't their opinions a lot more valid than those who aren't playing the game anymore?
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Speaker 2: The problem is, Jason, is the NZ20 actually going to start? I think it's next summer, isn't it? apparently, and is it going to work when there's other T20 competitions on at the same time around the world?
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Speaker 1: There's no money in sport. And the point.
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Speaker 2: Is, you invite our greatest ever cricketer to be part of review, but you don't let him see the review findings. It's bizarre.
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Speaker 4: Do we know that that's actually true?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what he's saying.
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Speaker 1: What are you calling Richard Hadley a liar, Jason?
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 1: I just want... Hadley's a legend.
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Speaker 3: I've got the greatest respect for Sir Richard Hadley, but why wouldn't New Zealand cricket give up the review? If they've promised transparency, then I'm sure that they'll deliver transparency.
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Speaker 1: People who run sport in this country are weirdos. How much evidence do you want? There's something wrong with sports administration in this country. There's too much evidence to suggest otherwise. How much time have you spent on your programme on this?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a great shame that with such an exciting summer of cricket coming up, India here formats us to Australia, that this is what we're talking about when it comes to cricket.
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Speaker 4: And if Andy wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Across the Tasman getting drunk all the time, would you have a better programme?
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's almost certainly true.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, just back to the rugby league. If the Dallium had been awarded last night or this week, would Caelan Ponga have won it for the best player?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a bad point. I mean, the Webster thing, as much as I love Webster and no one's in love with Webster more than I am, is I looked at the bloke who took the Knights pretty much all the way and you've got to ask some pretty serious questions about that decision, don't you?
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Speaker 2: And Caleb Ponger is now obviously going to play for the Kiwis next week, and what a team the Kiwis are going to have against Australia. It should be a massive test that won in Sydney.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd hope so. Bathurst this weekend, how much time will you dedicate, Sab, to that?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I do like watching the start and the middle.
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Speaker 4: And the finish.
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Speaker 1: Just the first lap and you leave it for the next 500?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no. A couple of laps. See if there's any drama. The middle stages where they swap drivers and they have to change the seat. You know, the drink bottles and they push each other in and out of the car like that.
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Speaker 1: And then the finish.
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Speaker 4: I remember last year. It was so dramatic last year. Don't you remember how gripping it was? One of the great races.
00:10:42
Speaker 1: You remember Conrad Strait pouring with rain. Matthew Payne loses it on the edge of the track. He's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling, he's wobbling. He gets it back on the track. He wins the whole thing.
00:10:58
Speaker 2: You know why I like the driver swap? Have you ever tried to fit into one of those cars?
00:11:02
Speaker 1: I've been in a car like that many, many times, but I know what you're saying. I mean, from your point of view, nigh on impossible, little guy like me, no problem. You've got to be flexible in the middle, Sav.
00:11:13
Speaker 2: I remember getting into a single-seater once, and there was a suggestion from the mechanic that they oil me up both sides with grease.
00:11:19
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a Formula Ford?
00:11:22
Speaker 2: I've been in a Toyota Racing Series single-seater.
00:11:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're small enough. Get into a Formula Ford. I'd love to see you in a Formula Ford. That'd be a sight for sore eyes.
00:11:32
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a monkey riding one of those little mini bicycles?
00:11:35
Speaker 1: LAUGHTER Nice to see you guys. Good luck with your producer, Jason. Hope you find him and he clears customs. Jason Pine and Andrew Saville.
