ABOUT THIS EPISODE
I came to this work as an herbalist, so a conversation about how plants deliver their compounds was always going to get my attention. Dr. Jeff Gross spends his clinical life doing interventional regenerative procedures for spine and joints. He stumbled into the plant side through a morning literature alert.
He views exosomes as a communication system. Cells release membrane parcels carrying microRNAs, peptides, and growth factors, which the receiving cell takes in whole. Plants do the same to feed us and our gut microbes, which give back in return—a dynamic he calls a triangle. This contrasts with conventional supplements that break plant material open to isolate compounds. His view: nature already perfected the delivery vehicle; extraction discards it.
What I appreciated is where he stopped. Asked about senescent cells, he admitted they haven't measured it yet. On brain fog, he sees too many patient variables to attribute relief to one capsule, pointing instead to preclinical markers and upcoming studies. We also discussed lab testing, landing on a truth I share with clients: there's no sense spending so much on testing that nothing is left for the treatments that actually change results. Practitioners running epigenetic panels will have the before-and-after data anyway.
The rest is what's coming. A pomegranate exosome product built around ellagic acid (which gut microbes convert into urolithin A), and a sugar-free vegetable gummy for children. I care most about the latter; children's toxin panels are genuinely alarming, so anything they'll actually take is a win. His closing advice isn't about supplements at all: if your doctor lists options and a holistic route is never among them, ask. If it still doesn't come up, seek a second opinion.
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About the Guest:
Dr. Jeff Gross is a spine fellowship trained neurological surgeon and the founder of ReCELLebrate, his regenerative medicine practice, and ReCELLebrate Nutraceuticals, which makes the plant exosome supplement LONGEVEX. He studied biochemistry at U.C. Berkeley and took his medical degree at George Washington University School of Medicine.
On air he calls himself a recovering neurosurgeon. His clinical work now runs to interventional injections using human derived exosome products for cartilage, joints and spine, and IV protocols for highly inflamed states. He came to plant exosomes through a standing morning literature alert, found a body of research he had not expected, and went on to build a supplement line around them.
Websites: https://recellebrate.com; https://recellnutra.com
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Dr. Isaac Jones, DC
Websites: https://healthexpertsalliance.com/ , https://disrupthealthcare.co/drtalks
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