ABOUT THIS EPISODE
What if healing your inner child could unlock the wisdom of your ancestors? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Tamala Floyd, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Psychotherapist, and the first Black IFS lead trainer for a raw and revelatory conversation about Internal Family Systems (IFS), ancestral trauma, and what it really takes to heal below the surface. From navigating white-dominated spaces to transforming inherited rage, Tamala shares how IFS can reach the communities that need it most and how you can start your own healing journey without ever stepping into a therapy office.
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Episode Chapters
[00:00] Welcome & introducing Tamala Floyd
LaTonya shares how she discovered Tamala's book through a previous guest
Why she's fangirling — and what makes this conversation different
[03:15] Being the first Black IFS lead trainer
How Tamala came to IFS through The Body Keeps the Score
What it means to be a gatekeeper — and why representation in leadership matters
[07:30] Bringing IFS into Black and marginalized communities
Why language and framing matter when working across cultures
The "storyteller part" — and why Tamala pushed back on the traditional IFS approach
[11:00] What IFS actually is — and why it's not a fad
Parts, protectors, and getting to the root of trauma (not just managing it)
[15:00] LaTonya's personal IFS session & the ten-year-old within
A vulnerable share about divorce, displacement, and emotional catharsis
What it felt like to finally talk to her younger self
[18:00] Tamala's ten-year-old — abandonment, rejection, and healing
How Tamala's own wound shaped her people-pleasing and rage
What happened when that part finally released its burden
[20:30] Reconnecting with your inner child through travel, play, and joy
How Tamala's ten-year-old "drags her by the hand" to the beach
Why adult joy doesn't have to look exactly like childhood joy — just carry its spirit
[26:00] Where to start: what's not working & what triggers you
Two entry points for doing your own IFS work
The question to ask yourself when a protective part shows up: What am I afraid would happen if I didn't do this?
[31:00] Jealousy, envy, and the fixed vs. growth mindset
What envy is really protecting — and the scarcity wound underneath
Why two things can be true at once
[34:00] Parts, contradictions, and why you're not inconsistent
How to make sense of holding opposing beliefs at the same time
"You're dealing with two different parts of me" — the most freeing reframe
[37:00] Legacy burdens and bringing in ancestral wisdom
Tamala's original contribution to IFS: inviting ancestors in to release inherited wounds
Why it's not your burden to carry — and how to let it go for your whole lineage
[41:00] Altars, ancestors, and practical ways to connect
Where to start if you want to connect with your ancestors today
Plants, photos, and conversations — small acts with big resonance
[43:00] Healing Works Academy — IFS for everyone
Why Tamala created an online space for self-guided IFS healing
[45:00] Where to find Tamala & final thoughts
Resources, platforms, and how to go deeper with this work
Resources
🔹 Tamala Floyd: https://tamalafloyd.com 🔹 Healing Works Academy:https://www.tamalafloyd.com/work-with-me/
🔹 Book: Listening When Parts Speak — available at Bookshop.org
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