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Hey, welcome back to the Lawrence Larson Show.
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It's a pleasure to be with you, and I'm glad to get to your phone calls and emails.
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Let me put this to you.
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President Trump has just put every public school in America on notice on the subject of gender identity.
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He calls it child abuse.
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Should schools around the country lose funding over gender ideology, depending on how it's practiced by any particular school district in America.
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I thought we'd put that to Terry Schilling, who's president of the American Principals Project.
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Terry, welcome back.
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Terry.
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Do we lose Terry?
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Hey, Joel, will you check Terry's line, see if we've uh got him on that line?
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Because I I swear he was there a moment ago.
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But uh yeah, it looks like we're gonna have to pick him up.
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So uh we'll get Terry back on.
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But the bottom line is that President Trump told a Rose Garden back-to-school gathering that every public school in America is now, as he put it, on notice.
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That telling a child they're trapped in the wrong body means they are committing child abuse.
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And I tend to agree with that.
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Terry, welcome back.
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Sorry about the technical hookup problem, but what should we make of President Trump putting all the schools on notice?
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And should we cut off the funding to schools that are that are abusing kids this way?
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Well, thanks for having me back, uh Lars.
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You you actually have been having me on to talk about this very issue for the last several years.
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And look, I am so proud of President Trump.
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He just put every public school in America on notice that if you tell a child that they're born of the wrong body, that you're committing child abuse and you're gonna lose your federal funding and most likely face civil rights investigations.
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This is exactly what we've been fighting for.
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This is what he promised us on the campaign trail.
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Parents have been under the gun and under attack by these left-wing crazy radicals that want to destroy our kids and turn them into androgynous bots.
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This is the most beautiful thing, and I'm so proud of him for having the courage to stand up and just say what's right.
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Boys are boys, girls are girls, and we should let kids be kids.
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Well, in fact, what I wonder about, Terry, is I use the um the test of asking yourself, what would what would your friend's reaction be if you were visiting some friends at their house and their children were there?
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You know, say it's a backyard barbecue, and and you're talking to some of the kids, and one of the kids, let's say it's a girl, uh, it dresses like a tomboy, and you're talking to her and you say, Well, you know what?
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You're probably not actually a girl.
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You're probably a boy trapped inside of that body.
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Can you imagine how fast your friends would put the boot in your backside to kick you out the front door?
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Exactly, Lars.
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And the thing that makes this worse is that not only have we not been kicking these guys out of the barbecue, we've been giving them billions and billions of dollars a year to do this.
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Right?
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This is what drives me nuts, I think, most about the entire transgender industry.
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And and just to be clear, Lars, this is a four and a half billion dollar annual industry that makes money off of surgeries and hormone treatments and puberty blockers for kids.
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But they've been giving that, we've created this entire transgender industry with government funding.
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It wouldn't exist without Medicaid, it wouldn't exist without Obamacare, having all the mandates outlawing gender identity discrimination, whatever the heck that is.
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Uh, but this you're exactly right.
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People should not talk to other kids about sex.
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And that includes gender identity, that includes sexual orientation.
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Leave our kids alone.
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We can form them and we can raise them without your freaky weird advice.
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Well, and in fact, Terry, I I even think about it this way.
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I mean, parents may go, let's say you take your child to a pediatrician.
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Makes sense.
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It's a doctor who specializes in children.
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Even there, I would think that doctors would be relatively careful in what they tell to a child to create the child's, you know, reaction to something, to get the child started on a pathway with or without the parent's support.
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And in this case, most of the schools that are doing this with kids are doing it without the parents' knowledge, sometimes deliberately keeping the parents in the dark and even telling the child, don't tell your parents, we're not going to tell your parents, we'll do all of this without sharing any of it with them, which seems especially nefarious to me.
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Oh, Lars, you're you're over target right now.
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And I will tell you it gets even worse because it's not just hiding it from the parents.
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In states like California and Minnesota and Washington State and New York and Illinois, where I'm from, they will actually take children away from the parents.
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They will remove custody from the parents if the parents don't support a gender transition.
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It seems Lars, they blackmail these parents with emotional blackmail.
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They tell the parents if you don't transition your children, they'll commit suicide.
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And what we know from the data, and in years and years of data now, is that that wasn't only not true, the exact opposite was true.
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And that if you go through with transitioning, your likelihood of committing suicide and suicidal ideation actually increases.
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So this is an evil movement.
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And any look, they're telling us who they are when they say that they're the goal is to mutilate and sterilize children.
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That's the end of what this transgender movement is.
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They're destroying our kids' bodies.
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They're sterilizing them so they can't have children and families.
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How sad, how evil that these people would perpetrate on our kids.
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You know what I'd like to know, Terry?
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Because I see another way.
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I mean, I'm glad, uh, as you said, I'm I'm proud of President Trump for taking this approach.
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He's not waiting for Congress to act.
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He's actually saying, we're going to make this happen, whether Congress will get on board this at all or not.
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But you know what I'd like to know?
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I'd like to know how all of these medical institutions, whether they're clinics, whether they're hospitals, whether they're doctors, who are allowing this kind of thing without informed consent from a child who ordinarily is not allowed to give consent to anything serious.
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I mean, young kids can't sign a contract, can't give consent.
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How in the world are they doing this?
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And why in the world are the liability insurance companies not all over these hospitals saying, you can't do this.
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This is gonna come back at us with lawsuits five and ten and twenty years from now, and we're gonna end up paying tens of millions of dollars.
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I would suggest that the folks who are sitting on the boards of directors of these hospitals had be really better pay attention because they're gonna probably be staring down the barrel of some major league lawsuits, aren't they?
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No, they they that's exactly right.
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And President Trump has actually taken a lot of action through the Department of Justice to change how these laws are enforced and how these uh municipalities and states can operate.
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I think one thing, Lars, I I've been asking that question, where are the the liability lawsuits?
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Well, first of all, they're coming.
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But typically what's happened in the past is for lobotomies, for example, doc, that's not illegal.
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Lobotomies, you can still, if you can find a doctor that's willing to take on the liability risk to do it, you can get a lobotomy.
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It's not illegal.
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When they used to do this to people in mental institutions, you remember Francis Farmer and people like that?
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Yes, yes.
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And but but but here's what's happened, Lars is this is what the left does, especially the LGBT movement, is they pass laws to make accountability illegal, right?
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So in California, they have these uh these blue shield laws, and it basically protects doctors in California and their ability to mail abortion drugs and transgender drugs to children in states like Texas or Mississippi or Alabama or Kentucky that have protected children.
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So it protects them from the legal liability.
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They passed the same laws to do this for the insurance liability companies to where they can't jack up the rates on these people.
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They protect their industries and it's all under the radar.
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No one really pays, it's so nerdy and wonky, it's in the weeds, and people miss it.
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Absolutely right.
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That's Terry Schilling.
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Terry is the president of the American Principles Project, and we appreciate his point of view.
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Glad to be with you and glad to take your phone calls.
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If you want to jump into the best conversation in Talk Journalism, it's here every day at 866-A Lars.
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That's eight six six four three nine five two seven seven.
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Send your emails to talk at larzlarsen.com.
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Check me out on Instagram and tell Alexa to play the Lars Larson show.
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Hey, welcome back to the Lawrence Larson Show.
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It's a pleasure to be with you, and I'm glad to get to your phone calls and emails.
00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:18.480
Let me put this to you.
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President Trump has just put every public school in America on notice on the subject of gender identity.
00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:27.760
He calls it child abuse.
00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:36.880
Should schools around the country lose funding over gender ideology, depending on how it's practiced by any particular school district in America.
00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.600
I thought we'd put that to Terry Schilling, who's president of the American Principals Project.
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Terry, welcome back.
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Terry.
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Do we lose Terry?
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Hey, Joel, will you check Terry's line, see if we've uh got him on that line?
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Because I I swear he was there a moment ago.
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But uh yeah, it looks like we're gonna have to pick him up.
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So uh we'll get Terry back on.
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But the bottom line is that President Trump told a Rose Garden back-to-school gathering that every public school in America is now, as he put it, on notice.
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That telling a child they're trapped in the wrong body means they are committing child abuse.
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And I tend to agree with that.
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Terry, welcome back.
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Sorry about the technical hookup problem, but what should we make of President Trump putting all the schools on notice?
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And should we cut off the funding to schools that are that are abusing kids this way?
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Well, thanks for having me back, uh Lars.
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You you actually have been having me on to talk about this very issue for the last several years.
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And look, I am so proud of President Trump.
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He just put every public school in America on notice that if you tell a child that they're born of the wrong body, that you're committing child abuse and you're gonna lose your federal funding and most likely face civil rights investigations.
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This is exactly what we've been fighting for.
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This is what he promised us on the campaign trail.
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Parents have been under the gun and under attack by these left-wing crazy radicals that want to destroy our kids and turn them into androgynous bots.
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This is the most beautiful thing, and I'm so proud of him for having the courage to stand up and just say what's right.
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Boys are boys, girls are girls, and we should let kids be kids.
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Well, in fact, what I wonder about, Terry, is I use the um the test of asking yourself, what would what would your friend's reaction be if you were visiting some friends at their house and their children were there?
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You know, say it's a backyard barbecue, and and you're talking to some of the kids, and one of the kids, let's say it's a girl, uh, it dresses like a tomboy, and you're talking to her and you say, Well, you know what?
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You're probably not actually a girl.
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You're probably a boy trapped inside of that body.
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Can you imagine how fast your friends would put the boot in your backside to kick you out the front door?
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Exactly, Lars.
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And the thing that makes this worse is that not only have we not been kicking these guys out of the barbecue, we've been giving them billions and billions of dollars a year to do this.
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Right?
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This is what drives me nuts, I think, most about the entire transgender industry.
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And and just to be clear, Lars, this is a four and a half billion dollar annual industry that makes money off of surgeries and hormone treatments and puberty blockers for kids.
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But they've been giving that, we've created this entire transgender industry with government funding.
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It wouldn't exist without Medicaid, it wouldn't exist without Obamacare, having all the mandates outlawing gender identity discrimination, whatever the heck that is.
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Uh, but this you're exactly right.
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People should not talk to other kids about sex.
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And that includes gender identity, that includes sexual orientation.
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Leave our kids alone.
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We can form them and we can raise them without your freaky weird advice.
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Well, and in fact, Terry, I I even think about it this way.
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I mean, parents may go, let's say you take your child to a pediatrician.
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Makes sense.
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It's a doctor who specializes in children.
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Even there, I would think that doctors would be relatively careful in what they tell to a child to create the child's, you know, reaction to something, to get the child started on a pathway with or without the parent's support.
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And in this case, most of the schools that are doing this with kids are doing it without the parents' knowledge, sometimes deliberately keeping the parents in the dark and even telling the child, don't tell your parents, we're not going to tell your parents, we'll do all of this without sharing any of it with them, which seems especially nefarious to me.
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Oh, Lars, you're you're over target right now.
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And I will tell you it gets even worse because it's not just hiding it from the parents.
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In states like California and Minnesota and Washington State and New York and Illinois, where I'm from, they will actually take children away from the parents.
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They will remove custody from the parents if the parents don't support a gender transition.
00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.279
It seems Lars, they blackmail these parents with emotional blackmail.
00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:10.639
They tell the parents if you don't transition your children, they'll commit suicide.
00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:17.519
And what we know from the data, and in years and years of data now, is that that wasn't only not true, the exact opposite was true.
00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:23.920
And that if you go through with transitioning, your likelihood of committing suicide and suicidal ideation actually increases.
00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.680
So this is an evil movement.
00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:31.839
And any look, they're telling us who they are when they say that they're the goal is to mutilate and sterilize children.
00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.040
That's the end of what this transgender movement is.
00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:36.639
They're destroying our kids' bodies.
00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.279
They're sterilizing them so they can't have children and families.
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.279
How sad, how evil that these people would perpetrate on our kids.
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You know what I'd like to know, Terry?
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Because I see another way.
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I mean, I'm glad, uh, as you said, I'm I'm proud of President Trump for taking this approach.
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He's not waiting for Congress to act.
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He's actually saying, we're going to make this happen, whether Congress will get on board this at all or not.
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But you know what I'd like to know?
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I'd like to know how all of these medical institutions, whether they're clinics, whether they're hospitals, whether they're doctors, who are allowing this kind of thing without informed consent from a child who ordinarily is not allowed to give consent to anything serious.
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I mean, young kids can't sign a contract, can't give consent.
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How in the world are they doing this?
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And why in the world are the liability insurance companies not all over these hospitals saying, you can't do this.
00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:35.040
This is gonna come back at us with lawsuits five and ten and twenty years from now, and we're gonna end up paying tens of millions of dollars.
00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:46.959
I would suggest that the folks who are sitting on the boards of directors of these hospitals had be really better pay attention because they're gonna probably be staring down the barrel of some major league lawsuits, aren't they?
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No, they they that's exactly right.
00:06:49.279 --> 00:07:01.519
And President Trump has actually taken a lot of action through the Department of Justice to change how these laws are enforced and how these uh municipalities and states can operate.
00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:06.160
I think one thing, Lars, I I've been asking that question, where are the the liability lawsuits?
00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:07.839
Well, first of all, they're coming.
00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:13.600
But typically what's happened in the past is for lobotomies, for example, doc, that's not illegal.
00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:19.040
Lobotomies, you can still, if you can find a doctor that's willing to take on the liability risk to do it, you can get a lobotomy.
00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:19.519
It's not illegal.
00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:25.199
When they used to do this to people in mental institutions, you remember Francis Farmer and people like that?
00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:26.879
Yes, yes.
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And but but but here's what's happened, Lars is this is what the left does, especially the LGBT movement, is they pass laws to make accountability illegal, right?
00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:55.199
So in California, they have these uh these blue shield laws, and it basically protects doctors in California and their ability to mail abortion drugs and transgender drugs to children in states like Texas or Mississippi or Alabama or Kentucky that have protected children.
00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.120
So it protects them from the legal liability.
00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:03.920
They passed the same laws to do this for the insurance liability companies to where they can't jack up the rates on these people.
00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:07.360
They protect their industries and it's all under the radar.
00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:11.600
No one really pays, it's so nerdy and wonky, it's in the weeds, and people miss it.
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Absolutely right.
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That's Terry Schilling.
00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:18.720
Terry is the president of the American Principles Project, and we appreciate his point of view.
00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.199
Glad to be with you and glad to take your phone calls.
00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:27.279
If you want to jump into the best conversation in Talk Journalism, it's here every day at 866-A Lars.
00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.120
That's eight six six four three nine five two seven seven.
00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.399
Send your emails to talk at larzlarsen.com.
00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.879
Check me out on Instagram and tell Alexa to play the Lars Larson show.
