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Welcome back to the Lars Larson show.
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Here's a question that is not entirely a rhetorical question, and that is should a retired Navy SEAL have fewer gun rights than, say, a retired cop?
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I thought we'd put that one to Bob Barr, who's written about it recently.
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A retired police officer can carry a concealed weapon anywhere in America, but a Navy SEAL can't?
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Is America treating its most elite warriors like some kind of second-class citizen?
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Bob, welcome back to the program.
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Thank you, Laura.
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It's great to be with you.
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And uh very interesting topic, uh, because you know, on on the one hand, uh, if this in fact the Second Amendment to our Constitution, the Second Amendment to our Bill of Rights actually means something uh and applies to all citizens, then all of these barriers from one state to another ought to be struck down, period.
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Yet the Supreme Court, even though we've had a pro-Second Amendment uh majority from time to time, has never had enough to actually say that.
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So we're left with this strange patchwork from one state to another, uh, and uh concealed carry is the perfect example of it.
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I I'd like to see constitutional carry in every single state.
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And we now have a tremendous number of states that already honor concealed carry uh under the Constitution rather than having to have a permit.
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I happen to live in one of the blue states in Washington State, so I have a carry permit, but it's it's good in only, I think, a couple of other states.
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And that's uh I think i it it should be offensive to Americans that you have to get that that carry permission from each one of the 50 states right now.
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And I've always reminded people that back when Trump got his first term in office, he said, look, I'll pass or I'll I'll sign uh nationwide concealed carry.
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And yet, even when Republicans have been in the majority, they've been unwilling to actually put it to a vote and say, Let's vote on this, let's change the law nationwide so that my carry permit is good in every state the way my driver's license is good in every single state.
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The Republicans just have never had the concerted background to do that.
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They just have have not done it.
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It took years for HR 218, as you recall, uh to get passed and for President uh Bush to sign H.W.
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Bush to sign that.
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I mean, I'm sorry, George W George Well, W.
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Bush.
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Get these guys confused.
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Bush number two to sign it.
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Uh the Republicans just don't have the backbone to push these things across the finish line.
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And why is that, Bob?
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Because, you know, I I tell people that, you know, w well, the Republicans are the majority, and of course the left is shouting that from the rooftop, saying, you guys are in charge, except they understand that when it gets down to that final vote in the Senate with the filibuster in place, you it doesn't matter if you have a majority.
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It doesn't matter if a majority of Americans are represented by Republicans in the U.S.
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Senate, you still can't get a 51 to 49 vote on anything.
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It the majority doesn't mean anything.
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What means everything is backbone.
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And the Republicans just over the years on firearms issues have very, very rarely ever exhibited it.
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Yeah, we did uh years ago, but it took years uh for President uh President Bush to finally sign you know the H.R.
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218 that allowed retired law enforcement officers uh who are properly certified in their home state, post-certified, to carry across state lines.
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And there's been a there's been unfortunately no movement since then.
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It's the Republicans, not the Democrats, that are to blame here.
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They just don't have the backbone for it.
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So now you got Representative Pat Harrigan, who wants a piece of legislation very simple that says federal concealed carry authority should be accorded to all past and current members of the military special forces.
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I mean, if they're qualified to carry much more powerful weapons in uniform, why would we not trust them to carry a pistol across state lines in the in the rest of the United States, in all 50 states?
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And we should, but again, this is not the best way to handle it, uh, to do piecemeal like this.
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But unfortunately, it it seems to be the only way that we can get it done, just piece by piece by piece.
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So what do we do to do this?
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Because, Bob, one of the big mysteries for me has been the Republic uh the Democrats don't always get everything they want, even when they've had uh, say, Obama in office for two terms, and they have they had for a time Democrat majorities in the House and the Senate, they didn't always get what they want.
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But it always seemed to me the Democrats got a whole lot more done when they held a majority than the Republicans do.
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And it always seems to be lack of backbone to me.
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And frankly, Bob, I'd make the argument.
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I mean, I over the years I've worried about, well, what happens when the other side's in the majority if we get rid of the filibuster.
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But here's the argument I'd like to go to, and you tell me if I'm wrong.
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The Democrats are constantly talking about disenfranchising Americans.
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Now, usually it's because of their ridiculous arguments that black and brown Americans don't know how to get a driver's license or don't know how to do this or do that.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's it's disproven by the facts on the ground.
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But if you say, are you disenfranchising Americans, if Americans elect a Republican president, a Republican majority in the House, and a Republican majority in the Senate, but then we're told, oh, a majority isn't good enough, you have to have sixty votes in the Senate to get anything passed.
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I I think it gives the Senate the freedom to say, yeah, we're Republicans, we have a majority, but we don't have to vote on anything difficult because we have to get to sixty votes, which effectively we're never going to get to.
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So why should we keep the filibuster?
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And the argument is always given back to me, well, you'll be sorry if you give up the filibuster when the Democrats are in charge.
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Except the Democrats do get a lot more done.
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And if that's going to be the case, try explaining to an American.
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So if that's the case, aren't you disenfranchising every single American if we say we're going to elect a majority in the Senate, but we know that even with a majority, we can't get anything done because of a Senate rule.
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It was not a rule adopted by the American public.
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It was a rule adopted by one body of what is supposed to be our government.
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Now, is that dis is that not disenfranchising?
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It is.
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And it's also showing the party is showing the American people, the American electorate, that the Republican Party, writ large, does not have the backbone to stand for what it actually says it believes in, and that is the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment.
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And you need a president who is willing to go out there and put his reputation on the line to do that.
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And unfortunately, we have not ever had that magical combination of backbone in the White House and backbone in the House and the Senate Republican Party to get it done.
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And apparently we don't have it today, even with Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
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That's Bob Barr, former member of Congress, former CIA analyst.
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Bob, it's always a pleasure to have you on the program.
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By the way, if you like me are fed up with the entire healthcare system, the insurance companies, the pharmacy chains, that whole bureaucratic mess, you understand why I say this pharmacy matters.
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All family pharmacy is not your typical pharmacy.
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They're an independent pharmacy, and they're on a mission to fix what's broken and put control back where it belongs between you and your doctor, between me and my doctor.
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They carry all the medications that Big Pharma tried to keep away from you.
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Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, methylene blue, and 400 everyday prescriptions, too.
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And this system works until it doesn't.
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So all it takes is a delay or a shortage or an unexpected situation, and suddenly getting something simple turns into a problem, which is why you have to be prepared, like the Larson family is prepared.
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The people who've already done it and have what they need at home, they don't feel that kind of pressure.
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And that's why All Family Pharmacy lets you plan ahead.
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Go online, fill out a short medical form, then a licensed doctor reviews it and writes the prescription.
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Your medication ships straight to your front door.
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That's what real medical freedom looks like.
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No corporation in the middle.
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Go to Allfamily Pharmacy dot com Slash LARS and use the code LARS ten for ten percent off.
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That's all family pharmacy dot com slash LARS.
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Welcome back to the Lars Larson show.
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Here's a question that is not entirely a rhetorical question, and that is should a retired Navy SEAL have fewer gun rights than, say, a retired cop?
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I thought we'd put that one to Bob Barr, who's written about it recently.
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A retired police officer can carry a concealed weapon anywhere in America, but a Navy SEAL can't?
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Is America treating its most elite warriors like some kind of second-class citizen?
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Bob, welcome back to the program.
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Thank you, Laura.
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It's great to be with you.
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And uh very interesting topic, uh, because you know, on on the one hand, uh, if this in fact the Second Amendment to our Constitution, the Second Amendment to our Bill of Rights actually means something uh and applies to all citizens, then all of these barriers from one state to another ought to be struck down, period.
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Yet the Supreme Court, even though we've had a pro-Second Amendment uh majority from time to time, has never had enough to actually say that.
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So we're left with this strange patchwork from one state to another, uh, and uh concealed carry is the perfect example of it.
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I I'd like to see constitutional carry in every single state.
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And we now have a tremendous number of states that already honor concealed carry uh under the Constitution rather than having to have a permit.
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I happen to live in one of the blue states in Washington State, so I have a carry permit, but it's it's good in only, I think, a couple of other states.
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And that's uh I think i it it should be offensive to Americans that you have to get that that carry permission from each one of the 50 states right now.
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And I've always reminded people that back when Trump got his first term in office, he said, look, I'll pass or I'll I'll sign uh nationwide concealed carry.
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And yet, even when Republicans have been in the majority, they've been unwilling to actually put it to a vote and say, Let's vote on this, let's change the law nationwide so that my carry permit is good in every state the way my driver's license is good in every single state.
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The Republicans just have never had the concerted background to do that.
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They just have have not done it.
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It took years for HR 218, as you recall, uh to get passed and for President uh Bush to sign H.W.
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Bush to sign that.
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I mean, I'm sorry, George W George Well, W.
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Bush.
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Get these guys confused.
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Bush number two to sign it.
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Uh the Republicans just don't have the backbone to push these things across the finish line.
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And why is that, Bob?
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Because, you know, I I tell people that, you know, w well, the Republicans are the majority, and of course the left is shouting that from the rooftop, saying, you guys are in charge, except they understand that when it gets down to that final vote in the Senate with the filibuster in place, you it doesn't matter if you have a majority.
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It doesn't matter if a majority of Americans are represented by Republicans in the U.S.
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Senate, you still can't get a 51 to 49 vote on anything.
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It the majority doesn't mean anything.
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What means everything is backbone.
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And the Republicans just over the years on firearms issues have very, very rarely ever exhibited it.
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Yeah, we did uh years ago, but it took years uh for President uh President Bush to finally sign you know the H.R.
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218 that allowed retired law enforcement officers uh who are properly certified in their home state, post-certified, to carry across state lines.
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And there's been a there's been unfortunately no movement since then.
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It's the Republicans, not the Democrats, that are to blame here.
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They just don't have the backbone for it.
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So now you got Representative Pat Harrigan, who wants a piece of legislation very simple that says federal concealed carry authority should be accorded to all past and current members of the military special forces.
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I mean, if they're qualified to carry much more powerful weapons in uniform, why would we not trust them to carry a pistol across state lines in the in the rest of the United States, in all 50 states?
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And we should, but again, this is not the best way to handle it, uh, to do piecemeal like this.
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But unfortunately, it it seems to be the only way that we can get it done, just piece by piece by piece.
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So what do we do to do this?
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Because, Bob, one of the big mysteries for me has been the Republic uh the Democrats don't always get everything they want, even when they've had uh, say, Obama in office for two terms, and they have they had for a time Democrat majorities in the House and the Senate, they didn't always get what they want.
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But it always seemed to me the Democrats got a whole lot more done when they held a majority than the Republicans do.
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And it always seems to be lack of backbone to me.
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And frankly, Bob, I'd make the argument.
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I mean, I over the years I've worried about, well, what happens when the other side's in the majority if we get rid of the filibuster.
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But here's the argument I'd like to go to, and you tell me if I'm wrong.
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The Democrats are constantly talking about disenfranchising Americans.
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Now, usually it's because of their ridiculous arguments that black and brown Americans don't know how to get a driver's license or don't know how to do this or do that.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's it's disproven by the facts on the ground.
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But if you say, are you disenfranchising Americans, if Americans elect a Republican president, a Republican majority in the House, and a Republican majority in the Senate, but then we're told, oh, a majority isn't good enough, you have to have sixty votes in the Senate to get anything passed.
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I I think it gives the Senate the freedom to say, yeah, we're Republicans, we have a majority, but we don't have to vote on anything difficult because we have to get to sixty votes, which effectively we're never going to get to.
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So why should we keep the filibuster?
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And the argument is always given back to me, well, you'll be sorry if you give up the filibuster when the Democrats are in charge.
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Except the Democrats do get a lot more done.
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And if that's going to be the case, try explaining to an American.
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So if that's the case, aren't you disenfranchising every single American if we say we're going to elect a majority in the Senate, but we know that even with a majority, we can't get anything done because of a Senate rule.
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It was not a rule adopted by the American public.
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It was a rule adopted by one body of what is supposed to be our government.
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Now, is that dis is that not disenfranchising?
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It is.
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And it's also showing the party is showing the American people, the American electorate, that the Republican Party, writ large, does not have the backbone to stand for what it actually says it believes in, and that is the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment.
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And you need a president who is willing to go out there and put his reputation on the line to do that.
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And unfortunately, we have not ever had that magical combination of backbone in the White House and backbone in the House and the Senate Republican Party to get it done.
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And apparently we don't have it today, even with Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
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That's Bob Barr, former member of Congress, former CIA analyst.
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Bob, it's always a pleasure to have you on the program.
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By the way, if you like me are fed up with the entire healthcare system, the insurance companies, the pharmacy chains, that whole bureaucratic mess, you understand why I say this pharmacy matters.
00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.199
All family pharmacy is not your typical pharmacy.
00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:53.120
They're an independent pharmacy, and they're on a mission to fix what's broken and put control back where it belongs between you and your doctor, between me and my doctor.
00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.120
They carry all the medications that Big Pharma tried to keep away from you.
00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:03.199
Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, methylene blue, and 400 everyday prescriptions, too.
00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.600
And this system works until it doesn't.
00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:17.839
So all it takes is a delay or a shortage or an unexpected situation, and suddenly getting something simple turns into a problem, which is why you have to be prepared, like the Larson family is prepared.
00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.160
The people who've already done it and have what they need at home, they don't feel that kind of pressure.
00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.199
And that's why All Family Pharmacy lets you plan ahead.
00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:31.199
Go online, fill out a short medical form, then a licensed doctor reviews it and writes the prescription.
00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.679
Your medication ships straight to your front door.
00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.000
That's what real medical freedom looks like.
00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:37.519
No corporation in the middle.
00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:44.159
Go to Allfamily Pharmacy dot com Slash LARS and use the code LARS ten for ten percent off.
00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:47.679
That's all family pharmacy dot com slash LARS.
