Full Transcript for LANTERNS Ep 1x5 Spoiler Review, Manhunter, Hal vs John Stewart, Antaan, Easters Eggs | DC

darkness is the darkness. And if you go in certain directions, 70 00:04:26.980 --> 00:04:30.079 no matter how much cute little conversations you have about 71 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.879 making sure you stay black in terms of your skin 72 00:04:32.939 --> 00:04:34.860 instead of being turned white, which I think is a 73 00:04:34.870 --> 00:04:37.149 little subtext that went on there in that moment as well, 74 00:04:37.649 --> 00:04:40.089 is these things, these conversations that I think are important 75 00:04:40.110 --> 00:04:42.449 for people to have. Now, listen, I never thought you 76 00:04:42.470 --> 00:04:45.839 could mirror these two universes, right? Or blend these two universes. 77 00:04:45.899 --> 00:04:49.870 But if you've got an a Lantern series that is 78 00:04:49.930 --> 00:04:53.209 as brutal as this, tell me what separates this from 79 00:04:53.250 --> 00:04:57.790 Matt Reeves' Batman. Almost nothing. And so to me, I'm 80 00:04:57.829 --> 00:05:01.410 a little more kind of starting to see the possibility 81 00:05:02.269 --> 00:05:05.449 of these universes coming together down the road. Not saying 82 00:05:05.500 --> 00:05:08.480 it will happen, but I am much more in the 83 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:12.639 camp of believing it will happen now than I have 84 00:05:12.779 --> 00:05:16.959 ever been before because this is canon this is james 85 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:20.329 gunn's dcu what's going on in this series now you 86 00:05:20.350 --> 00:05:22.389 guys know i don't give james gunn too much credit 87 00:05:22.829 --> 00:05:24.810 about what's going on in this series because this is 88 00:05:24.889 --> 00:05:29.959 very much a damon lindelof um uh chris mundy uh 89 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:31.819 and and tom king approach to things and i know 90 00:05:31.860 --> 00:05:35.019 gunn and king proposed the initial story but what you're 91 00:05:35.060 --> 00:05:37.360 seeing the way it's being carried out is in a 92 00:05:37.379 --> 00:05:41.139 much more darker and brutal fashion even with occasional moments 93 00:05:41.189 --> 00:05:44.850 of humor and It's still pretty, pretty dark. And so 94 00:05:44.990 --> 00:05:49.410 I'm just very impressed at what happened tonight. Again, with 95 00:05:49.449 --> 00:05:52.629 a couple of quibbles, but overall just blown away by 96 00:05:52.670 --> 00:05:56.259 what we got tonight in this episode. I just want 97 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.560 to remind you all that the Streamlabs and Super Chats 98 00:05:59.610 --> 00:06:01.490 are open if you want to send some questions, thoughts, 99 00:06:01.529 --> 00:06:03.449 and comments as we go along. Because I want to 100 00:06:03.470 --> 00:06:05.689 hear from you what you thought of this episode, what 101 00:06:05.730 --> 00:06:07.649 you think is going on here. Did you catch any 102 00:06:07.750 --> 00:06:10.319 Easter eggs or any of that stuff? Let me know 103 00:06:10.740 --> 00:06:12.959 as we go along here. Send it in questions, thoughts, 104 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:14.939 and comments. It's pinned in the chat. It's in the 105 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:19.529 description of the video as well. So, all right, let's 106 00:06:19.550 --> 00:06:21.370 get into the first part of this. And we got 107 00:06:21.430 --> 00:06:24.810 to see the two sides of Carrie Kane in this episode. 108 00:06:24.829 --> 00:06:28.069 We got her backstory. We opened the episode with that. 109 00:06:28.089 --> 00:06:32.629 This was nine years ago, apparently. She is running from Gotham. 110 00:06:32.689 --> 00:06:36.189 She's in a stolen car. She's changed the plates. But 111 00:06:36.230 --> 00:06:39.310 she didn't change cars. And she ends up at this 112 00:06:39.389 --> 00:06:41.689 diner after the car breaks down. She pushes the car 113 00:06:41.709 --> 00:06:43.939 to the diner, which, of course, speaks to the strength 114 00:06:44.550 --> 00:06:46.449 of Carrie Kane that she can push a car down 115 00:06:46.470 --> 00:06:47.889 the road, which is not an easy thing to do. 116 00:06:49.009 --> 00:06:52.040 She gets this diner, gets into the diner, and these 117 00:06:52.100 --> 00:06:54.240 two guys who apparently have been pursuing her show up. 118 00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.079 The guy in the subtitles is named, was it Captain something? 119 00:07:00.100 --> 00:07:03.360 Hold on a second. Let me bring up my thing here. 120 00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:06.019 I know I downloaded it. Here it is. Let me 121 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.620 bring it up so I don't lose anything. What's the 122 00:07:09.660 --> 00:07:13.839 guy's name here? Croc Coat. That's what the subtitles read. 123 00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:18.350 Croc coat. The other henchman doesn't speak. He just stands 124 00:07:18.389 --> 00:07:21.589 there menacingly. But they sit next to her and they 125 00:07:21.649 --> 00:07:24.790 pay for her coffee and they tell her that she 126 00:07:25.410 --> 00:07:26.730 did all the things that she could to get away 127 00:07:26.750 --> 00:07:29.029 from them but didn't quite do enough. So they're there 128 00:07:29.490 --> 00:07:31.810 to essentially take care of her. She says she's not 129 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.519 a thief. He says it's in the genes and it's 130 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:38.079 a shame about her old man. So to me, I'm like, well, 131 00:07:38.100 --> 00:07:40.399 how far? I mean, her last name is Kane. Where 132 00:07:40.420 --> 00:07:42.740 does this lead to? What did her old man do? 133 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.009 He was a snitch. Who did he snitch on? They're 134 00:07:47.029 --> 00:07:49.850 there to take care of her because she's related to 135 00:07:49.889 --> 00:07:53.129 this guy. And they figure one snitch will breed another snitch. 136 00:07:53.269 --> 00:07:55.370 So they got to kill her. And he says it's 137 00:07:55.430 --> 00:07:58.509 in the genes. And her father couldn't keep his mouth 138 00:07:58.550 --> 00:08:03.560 shut and do his time. So they killed him. But 139 00:08:03.660 -->

00:08:06.040 just as they're about to take this into a really 140 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:10.220 brutal place, Zoe shows up, snaps the neck of the 141 00:08:10.259 --> 00:08:11.660 henchman who didn't even get a chance to say a 142 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:14.439 word in this episode. And then takes the other guy, 143 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.819 crock coat, and slams his head into the diner. And 144 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.779 we see the full power of Zoe now and her 145 00:08:21.819 --> 00:08:27.000 abilities as a Manhunter. And she essentially recruits Carrie to 146 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:30.800 be another protector for her in this town. And Carrie, 147 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.080 because she won't face the consequences of what she did 148 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.879 back in Gotham or whatever happened there, Because I don't 149 00:08:39.889 --> 00:08:42.080 think it's just about her being related to this guy, 150 00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:44.279 to her dad. I think there's something more there. Plus, 151 00:08:44.299 --> 00:08:46.759 she saw her father get killed. Clearly doesn't have a 152 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.039 lot of feelings for her father because she said, I 153 00:08:49.059 --> 00:08:51.159 didn't react. I didn't get angry. I didn't get upset. 154 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.419 So there's something that happened back there. What's this all 155 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.240 relating to? I don't know. But she needs to give 156 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.179 up her pinky. She cuts off her pinky, gives it 157 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:02.679 to this Krakow guy. The Manhunter Zoe essentially threatens him 158 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.100 and says, if you don't make it stick, I will 159 00:09:06.139 --> 00:09:08.519 find your family and kill all your family as well 160 00:09:08.590 --> 00:09:11.429 as you. pretty scary thing to see zoe do this 161 00:09:11.500 --> 00:09:14.159 but this is a precursor to what is later going 162 00:09:14.179 --> 00:09:17.440 to happen with john because clearly this is a manhunter 163 00:09:17.740 --> 00:09:21.179 who understands that if people need something the manhunter can 164 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.879 give it to them in exchange they will have to 165 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.970 be beholden to her so again this idea of free 166 00:09:27.009 --> 00:09:31.210 will not facing the consequences all this guy surrendering your 167 00:09:31.370 --> 00:09:34.740 loyalty your allegiance to someone in power because they helped 168 00:09:34.769 --> 00:09:37.120 you out of a situation so it's a very interesting 169 00:09:37.970 --> 00:09:41.830 thing when you look at what's happening here with Carrie Kane. Anyway, 170 00:09:41.850 --> 00:09:43.759 she tells the coffee shop owner to call Bitsy to 171 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.980 get rid of the dead henchman. And Zoe says she's 172 00:09:47.019 --> 00:09:50.100 repaying the favor she got long ago. Someone gave her 173 00:09:50.139 --> 00:09:52.580 a chance when

she needed it most. So she's doing 174 00:09:52.620 --> 00:09:56.450 that for a Carrie and makes her promise that when 175 00:09:56.490 --> 00:09:58.269 the time comes, people will come for her. Carrie will 176 00:09:58.309 --> 00:10:01.179 defend her. And then she says, let's see about growing 177 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.700 you a new pinky. So for her, she knew she 178 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:05.559 was going to be able to help her out in 179 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.610 any way possible. And there has grown her a new pinky, 180 00:10:08.649 --> 00:10:11.769 which of course, again, is giving us a little foreshadowing 181 00:10:11.789 --> 00:10:13.769 to what's going to happen later with John, where she 182 00:10:14.009 --> 00:10:17.840 essentially reconstructs his entire skin after he's been, after she 183 00:10:17.889 --> 00:10:22.389 lets him burn in the fire. So we're seeing this pattern, again, 184 00:10:22.629 --> 00:10:27.389 of people who are needing something and this miracle worker 185 00:10:27.429 --> 00:10:31.909 in power comes in and people surrender themselves to that 186 00:10:31.950 --> 00:10:36.009 person in order to defend that person because that person 187 00:10:36.049 --> 00:10:39.080 has given them a clean bill of health, their crops 188 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.539 have grown, or in Macon's case, cured his cancer, as 189 00:10:43.580 --> 00:10:45.259 we see later what he says to her. So there's 190 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:50.190 all these things. So we had maybe... but we had 191 00:10:50.210 --> 00:10:52.470 maybe speculated at the end of the last episode that 192 00:10:52.950 --> 00:10:56.019 maybe Leanna is the villain and the man hunter is 193 00:10:56.059 --> 00:10:58.100 a good person. We'll be cheering for the man. Well, 194 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.720 clearly she is someone who, uh, or they are someone 195 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.850 who operates almost like a mob boss, you know, like, uh, 196 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:11.320 in the Godfather at the opening of the Godfather, when that, uh, 197 00:11:12.730 --> 00:11:14.870 A baker comes in, I think it was, or Taylor Baker, 198 00:11:14.889 --> 00:11:18.309 I think, no, no, it was Undertaker, comes in to 199 00:11:18.409 --> 00:11:20.549 essentially ask the Godfather to kill these guys who raped 200 00:11:20.590 --> 00:11:26.370 his daughter. The Godfather says, I won't kill them, but 201 00:11:26.409 --> 00:11:28.529 I'll beat them up. They'll understand never to mess with you, 202 00:11:29.049 --> 00:11:30.690 but the time will come when I will need a 203 00:11:30.740 --> 00:11:34.679 service from you. And so it's in essence that. And 204 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.080 like that happens with almost any area of our lives, right? Hey, 205 00:11:39.009 --> 00:11:41.970 your boss tells you to look past this thing or 206 00:11:42.029 --> 00:11:44.220 not to make a big deal about this thing. Cause 207 00:11:44.269 --> 00:11:45.720 in the end, they're going to take care of you. 208 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.100 And do you go with that or do you not? 209 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:51.799 Life's about choices. And in that moment, Carrie Kane, in 210 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:56.460 order to stay alive, does this in exchange. And you 211 00:11:56.500 --> 00:11:59.259 can tell in, if you look at her previous scenes, 212 00:11:59.769 --> 00:12:02.070 she's clearly conflicted by the whole thing. And in fact, 213 00:12:02.110 --> 00:12:05.440 you can like extrapolate this out. She's married to Billy 214 00:12:05.460 --> 00:12:10.059 Macon Jr. Clearly, uh, the Manhunter got with William Macon. 215 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:12.460 And as we find out from Anton later, like that's 216 00:12:12.500 --> 00:12:15.340 what the Manhunter does. It gets with the alpha, seduces 217 00:12:15.379 --> 00:12:18.610 the alpha, bends the alpha to her will to have 218 00:12:18.669 --> 00:12:21.730 him do or him or they do whatever the Manhunter 219 00:12:21.769 --> 00:12:23.850 wants them to do. And that's clearly what happens later on. 220 00:12:23.889 --> 00:12:26.529 And so maybe the whole situation was set up here with, uh, 221 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:31.259 With William Macon Jr. marrying Carrie Kane, in essence, like, 222 00:12:31.620 --> 00:12:33.559 you're going to do something for me. You're going to 223 00:12:33.580 --> 00:12:35.620 keep doing things for me because I saved you, right? 224 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.100 So you're always in hock to a person who is 225 00:12:39.220 --> 00:12:42.720 malevolent in their approach at getting your allegiance from you 226 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.269 or your loyalty from you. Because they'll never stop taking 227 00:12:46.330 --> 00:12:49.009 from you. And it's like being in a codependent, shitty, 228 00:12:49.169 --> 00:12:52.759 toxic relationship. Hey, look at all the things I did 229 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.399 for you, right? You need to stay with me. You 230 00:12:55.419 --> 00:12:57.059 better stay with me. No one else is going to 231 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.299 do these things for you. How can you leave me? 232 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:01.320 Look at all these things I did for you, right? 233 00:13:01.379 --> 00:13:03.259 And so it's those kinds of things that can get 234 00:13:03.299 --> 00:13:06.649 really unsettling. But anyway, we cut to John waking up 235 00:13:06.690 --> 00:13:08.590 in the car from where Hal left him. Hal walks 236 00:13:08.669 --> 00:13:12.429 up and they have this exchange where Hal basically tells him, look, 237 00:13:12.870 --> 00:13:14.250 I knew you were going to fuck me over. You're 238 00:13:14.269 --> 00:13:17.429 working with the Guardians. And so I'm going to handle 239 00:13:17.450 --> 00:13:20.789 this business and I need you off the chessboard. So 240 00:13:20.850 --> 00:13:24.289 now you're incapacitated. But I'm going to use Anton, which 241 00:13:24.350 --> 00:13:26.629 is why I had you call him in the last episode, 242 00:13:27.029 -->

00:13:30.490 as a smokescreen to preoccupy Macon's militia because I'm going 243 00:13:30.509 --> 00:13:33.730 to tell Anton essentially that Macon is the is the Manhunter, 244 00:13:33.750 --> 00:13:35.409 and then he's going to get Zoe, take her to 245 00:13:35.429 --> 00:13:40.440 the Guardians on Oa, and while John dies, I imagine, 246 00:13:40.860 --> 00:13:44.659 and the Guardians will kiss John's ring. Now, some of 247 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:48.360 you last episode were like, no way Hal was trying 248 00:13:48.379 --> 00:13:50.919 to kill John. No way Hal was trying to kill John. Well, 249 00:13:51.379 --> 00:13:53.840 Hal was trying to kill John, and Hal left him 250 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:57.129 to die because Hal never comes back to check on John. 251 00:13:57.690 --> 00:14:00.350 After all this shit goes down. So for those of 252 00:14:00.370 --> 00:14:03.429 you thinking, how was it like a bad guy or 253 00:14:03.490 --> 00:14:05.570 didn't do bad things or wasn't consumed by the power 254 00:14:05.590 --> 00:14:08.330 of the ring? Hate to break it to you. That's false. 255 00:14:08.990 --> 00:14:13.000 That's false. Hal absolutely left him there to die. Wanted 256 00:14:13.029 --> 00:14:15.460 him stuck in that car and should have known the 257 00:14:15.500 --> 00:14:18.379 car was going to blow up eventually. Gas catch fire, 258 00:14:18.460 --> 00:14:20.139 which is we see what happens with John. We'll get 259 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:21.980 to that. a little bit. He tells John that he 260 00:14:22.019 --> 00:14:25.779 was never going to replace him and that his training 261 00:14:26.059 --> 00:14:29.740 endeth here. Kind of like a reference to The Untouchables. 262 00:14:29.820 --> 00:14:32.200 You know, here endeth the lesson. That kind of thing. 263 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.120 And so it's really twisted mentor-mentee relationship where Hal has 264 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.870 turned on his trainee, which I thought was pretty brutal. 265 00:14:39.950 --> 00:14:43.590 So Hal, clearly consumed by the power of the ring, 266 00:14:44.009 --> 00:14:45.549 and some of the, I think one of the writers 267 00:14:45.809 --> 00:14:48.889 of the episode, let me bring it up here, or 268 00:14:48.929 --> 00:14:52.970 somebody said that they Somebody connected with, maybe it was 269 00:14:53.029 --> 00:14:55.269 one of the executive producers or the writer of this 270 00:14:55.309 --> 00:14:59.299 particular episode or the director of this particular episode compared 271 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.940 Hal to LeBron James, who can't seem to let go 272 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.659 of playing and will do anything to stay around, to 273 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.940 stick around. We've seen those athletes who stick around. Aaron 274 00:15:09.980 --> 00:15:12.779 Rodgers for the Pittsburgh Steelers today. Yes, they won, but 275 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.230 it was against a shitty Atlanta Falcons team, so no surprise, 276 00:15:15.269 --> 00:15:18.419 but he looked terrible. The old man will stick around 277 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.500 as long as possible until it's finally time to get 278 00:15:21.620 --> 00:15:24.899 out of there where the league collectively kicks him out 279 00:15:24.940 --> 00:15:27.070 because nobody wants him anymore because he can't do the 280 00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:29.789 job anymore. Hal thinks he's going to be reborn in 281 00:15:29.809 --> 00:15:33.370 this situation and he'll finally have like a dominion over 282 00:15:33.389 --> 00:15:36.250 the Guardians or some sort of appreciation from the Guardians 283 00:15:37.389 --> 00:15:41.080 in that way. All right, so let's move on to 284 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:45.129 the next thing here. Where is my... Yeah, who was it? 285 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:48.409 The writer of this episode, Justin Brick Gibson, who's in 286 00:15:48.429 --> 00:15:52.669 the post doc there, and director Geeta Vasant Patel, who 287 00:15:52.710 --> 00:15:56.200 I thought was fantastic directing this episode. But then we 288 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:59.659 get to the town, which is preparing for war. Billy Jr. 289 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:01.820 wants to come with Carrie and Zoe, but they won't 290 00:16:01.860 --> 00:16:08.889 let her. Zoe talks to Noah. and wants Noah's dad 291 00:16:09.289 --> 00:16:11.570 to stay home and take care of him. She says 292 00:16:11.610 --> 00:16:14.350 that some people are going to die today, and Noah 293 00:16:14.470 --> 00:16:16.950 asks if she's going to die. She can't assure him 294 00:16:17.009 --> 00:16:19.529 that she won't. I think she says, I can't tell 295 00:16:19.610 --> 00:16:24.480 or maybe. And then Macon calls and says, Hal is missing. 296 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.820 The town is mobilizing. Betty knows where John is. So 297 00:16:27.860 --> 00:16:31.299 let's stop there. So the Noah element of this is 298 00:16:31.379 --> 00:16:36.419 really fascinating because Zoe makes a, Zoe slash the Manhunter 299 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:40.220 makes a beeline to Noah before they take off to 300 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.870 make sure she talks to him. This is almost like 301 00:16:42.909 --> 00:16:47.809 Star Trek II where Spock puts the hand on McCoy's head. Remember, 302 00:16:48.389 --> 00:16:51.960 she says to him, no matter what happens today, Remember 303 00:16:52.019 --> 00:16:55.450 what I taught you. Remember what I told you. So 304 00:16:55.610 --> 00:17:00.129 in a way, Zoe has essentially been indoctrinating Noah this 305 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:03.669 whole time. But how? How is that going to play 306 00:17:03.710 --> 00:17:07.150 itself out when we get to 2026? As we see 307 00:17:07.190 --> 00:17:08.970 by the end of this episode, we're done. It seems 308 00:17:08.990 --> 00:17:12.089 like with 2016, we're moving on to 2026. So will 309 00:17:12.269 --> 00:17:14.849 Noah be the one who has a hand in the 310 00:17:14.930 --> 00:17:18.029 death of Hal Jordan? I have a weird feeling

about this. 311 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.240 And why did Zoe make Carrie Kane and William Macon Jr. 312 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.000 get together to have a kid? Was that all part 313 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.480 of the plan? Like, I saved your father from his cancer, 314 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:31.079 so you're going to marry Carrie. Carrie, I saved you 315 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.000 from the situation. You're going to marry him, and you're 316 00:17:33.019 --> 00:17:34.940 going to have a child. And from that child, I 317 00:17:35.369 --> 00:17:38.990 am going to indoctrinate that child in some way. And clearly, 318 00:17:39.009 --> 00:17:43.710 she taught her language, or they taught their language, to Macon, 319 00:17:43.789 --> 00:17:47.049 William Macon Sr. So why wouldn't they be able to 320 00:17:47.089 --> 00:17:50.460 teach their language and their ways to Noah. So what 321 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:54.039 is here? I wonder, did she drop her blood in Noah? 322 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:57.809 Did she some way affect Noah or create Noah? So 323 00:17:57.950 --> 00:18:00.029 what is Noah's role in all of this? I don't 324 00:18:00.049 --> 00:18:02.950 think it's a throwaway scene to have Zoe walk up 325 00:18:03.009 --> 00:18:05.789 to him and say, remember everything I taught you. Remember 326 00:18:05.829 --> 00:18:07.920 everything I told you. That to me is going to 327 00:18:07.950 --> 00:18:09.779 pay dividends down the road, I think, in these next 328 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:13.259 three episodes as we jump 10 years. So Noah would be, what, 329 00:18:13.259 --> 00:18:15.779 19 when we jump 10 years? So we'll see. But 330 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:17.619 as I said, making calls says Hal is missing. The 331 00:18:17.660 --> 00:18:20.160 town is mobilizing. He knows where John is. Zoe drives 332 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.549 over there just in time to see John screaming to 333 00:18:23.670 --> 00:18:25.690 her for help to get him out of the car. 334 00:18:26.269 --> 00:18:28.690 But she does not move. She does not go over 335 00:18:28.710 --> 00:18:32.690 to help him. She waits until the car blows up 336 00:18:33.369 --> 00:18:37.490 and he is essentially caught on fire. And then she 337 00:18:37.509 --> 00:18:40.529 takes him out, which we'll see a little bit later. Meanwhile, 338 00:18:40.549 --> 00:18:43.289 Hal clips the consciousness out of his ring, which I 339 00:18:43.309 --> 00:18:44.849 think is really interesting. Oh, my God. I got to 340 00:18:44.890 --> 00:18:46.809 take this. I've been talking the whole time over this. Okay. 341 00:18:47.109 --> 00:18:50.990 Sorry about that. Jesus Christ. There we go. All right. 342 00:18:51.309 --> 00:18:54.950 I'm sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry, sorry, sorry, guys. All right. 343 00:18:54.990 --> 00:18:57.410 So anyway, yes, there we go. There we go. Well, 344 00:18:57.450 --> 00:18:59.259 let's take no more pictures. I thought I could keep 345 00:18:59.299 --> 00:19:06.339 doing the pictures, but I caught myself. My apologies, guys. 346 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:09.440 I appreciate you calling me out on that. So anyway. 347 00:19:09.859 --> 00:19:11.740 You heard what I've been saying. So anyway, that's what 348 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.869 I'm saying. So we get to... So no more pictures. 349 00:19:14.890 --> 00:19:17.589 I'm not putting up any more pictures. Sorry, guys. Again, 350 00:19:17.650 --> 00:19:23.609 I'm a one-person show. Sometimes I make the mistakes. Anyway, okay, 351 00:19:23.789 --> 00:19:27.099 so now Carrie Kane is driving. Hal lands in front 352 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:28.920 of her. But before we get to that, I will 353 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:30.660 put up one more picture, which I know we'll take 354 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:32.579 it down because I won't go back to my thing. 355 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.539 But we do see Hal essentially clip out his consciousness 356 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.490 and And we have a little moment with them where 357 00:19:38.509 --> 00:19:42.009 he's like, I thought you forgot about me. Mentions, where's 358 00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:45.119 our trainee? I liked him. So this is a different 359 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.579 how than how we have now. And then he sends 360 00:19:47.619 --> 00:19:51.160 his consciousness to essentially find Zoe. and I love that 361 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:56.480 consciousness Hal is surprised to think that this Hal would 362 00:19:56.500 --> 00:19:58.680 have drawn that picture because clearly he thinks Hal's not 363 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.930 even his own consciousness knows Hal's not capable of being 364 00:20:01.970 --> 00:20:04.809 that specific or that detailed in his constructs or his 365 00:20:04.869 --> 00:20:07.750 drawing so essentially it's a nice little like dig at 366 00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:10.339 Hal for that so I thought that was really cool 367 00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:12.380 thing to see and that does come into play later 368 00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:14.960 but as i said carrie kane is driving hal lands 369 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.049 in front of her carrie shoots at him says she 370 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:20.190 has to uh because uh he tries to understand why 371 00:20:20.329 --> 00:20:23.109 and and he tries to understand why she's protecting the 372 00:20:23.150 --> 00:20:25.170 manhunter carrie says she owes her and we now have 373 00:20:25.210 --> 00:20:27.430 the backstory from the beginning of the episode of why 374 00:20:27.549 --> 00:20:29.569 she owes him and that she might turn on the 375 00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:32.710 town and turn on the town and kill people just 376 00:20:32.750 --> 00:20:34.369 to drag you out so if you even had an 377 00:20:34.470 --> 00:20:38.059 illusion That the Manhunter might be a good person, might 378 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.319 be a victim in all of this of the Guardians, 379 00:20:40.700 --> 00:20:45.410 might be someone who's misunderstood, was the good Manhunter. Because, 380 00:20:46.029

--> 00:20:48.990 you know, it's interesting because Zoe says later on in 381 00:20:49.009 --> 00:20:51.769 the episode, they killed all the other Manhunters but left 382 00:20:51.849 --> 00:20:54.630 me alive and I don't know why. Right? So there's 383 00:20:54.650 --> 00:20:56.769 a little bit of a mystery here with all of that. 384 00:20:56.809 --> 00:20:59.119 I think that's still persisting into these next three episodes, 385 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:04.529 especially with Lyanna still around. But he tries to pitch 386 00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:07.589 helping her and Noah escape and says, why aren't you 387 00:21:07.609 --> 00:21:09.670 thinking of your son? And she says, I am thinking 388 00:21:09.710 --> 00:21:11.990 of my son. That's what you don't understand. You don't 389 00:21:12.029 --> 00:21:14.869 really understand what's going on here. And she tells him, 390 00:21:15.509 --> 00:21:18.569 you have to leave if you want to save lives. 391 00:21:19.069 --> 00:21:22.039 He says he can't. And then she says, then everything 392 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:25.440 that happens here is on you. Are you sure you 393 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.240 can handle the consequences of what you're doing? And Hal 394 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.450 doesn't answer. We don't see him answer. But clearly, Hal's 395 00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:35.529 not going to be stopped. And it does lead to 396 00:21:35.569 --> 00:21:39.170 a tremendous amount of bloodshed in the collateral damage of 397 00:21:39.369 --> 00:21:43.349 the civilians in the town being killed by Zoe and 398 00:21:43.930 --> 00:21:46.500 Anton's people. So it is a brutal, brutal thing that's 399 00:21:46.539 --> 00:21:50.019 coming here. But we see the battle where there have 400 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:55.099 been this touch last episode between Hal and Carrie. Clearly, 401 00:21:55.140 --> 00:21:57.740 there is no more that touch. There's care for each other, 402 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.589 I think. But she's trying to save him by shooting 403 00:22:01.690 --> 00:22:03.779 at him so that Zoe doesn't show up all of 404 00:22:03.819 --> 00:22:06.640 a sudden and surprise them and do whatever. So but 405 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.700 in the end, Hal's not going to stop and Carrie 406 00:22:09.740 --> 00:22:12.900 can't make it, which leads to, of course, tragic consequences 407 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:16.720 down the road. Then we cut to John all covered 408 00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:18.680 up in the gauze. Most of his nerves and nerve 409 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.069 endings are dead. And Zoe let him essentially almost die 410 00:22:22.109 --> 00:22:24.109 in the fire so she could save him, and he'd 411 00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:26.809 owe her. Again, this is not a good person, a 412 00:22:26.849 --> 00:22:30.309 good entity, a good being. She waited until he burnt 413 00:22:30.569 --> 00:22:34.230 up so that he would owe her, and he accuses 414 00:22:34.269 --> 00:22:36.789 her of being inhuman for letting him burn. He tells 415 00:22:36.829 --> 00:22:40.009 her he knows she's a Manhunter. He tells her that 416 00:22:40.029 --> 00:22:42.609 he didn't tell the Guardians about her because he doesn't 417 00:22:42.650 --> 00:22:44.589 trust the Guardians after they tried to get him to 418 00:22:44.650 --> 00:22:47.579 take the ring. and didn't tell Hal he was being replaced. 419 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.640 So Jon Stewart is a man of principle. He's a 420 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:52.960 man who has a code and a set of ethics 421 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.920 and a principle. And just because he was influenced by 422 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:01.369 his parents to be Green Lantern, just because he slept 423 00:23:01.410 --> 00:23:03.890 with Zoe a couple of times, just because Leanna has 424 00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:06.940 chosen him to be Green Lantern, there are still, in 425 00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:10.039 his mind, a right way and a wrong way to 426 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:13.599 do things. And we are beginning, John, in this moment, 427 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.920 I think, realizing much more strongly that the wrong way 428 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.849 to do things is going to be the way he 429 00:23:18.890 --> 00:23:21.829 gets the ring. And is he going to come to 430 00:23:21.849 --> 00:23:24.470 terms with that? And that's going to be interesting by 431 00:23:24.490 --> 00:23:26.190 the time we get to the end of the episode. 432 00:23:26.230 --> 00:23:29.589 But having this back and forth with her, he says 433 00:23:29.650 --> 00:23:32.069 that Anton told him not to tell Jordan because the 434 00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.940 Manhunter was under the protection of the Guardians. She asks 435 00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:38.559 him why not, and he says they created her. Oh, no. 436 00:23:38.579 --> 00:23:40.359 She says, does it look like I'm protected by the Guardians? 437 00:23:40.380 --> 00:23:42.039 Why do you think I'm not protected by the Guardians? 438 00:23:42.460 --> 00:23:44.549 And he says they created her and the other Manhunters 439 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.589 to exact justice, but then they got too brutal. They 440 00:23:48.630 --> 00:23:50.430 flipped the switch and killed all the other Manhunters but her, 441 00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:52.069 which is what I brought up just a few seconds ago. 442 00:23:52.490 --> 00:23:54.970 She doesn't know why. She tells them how Jordan will 443 00:23:55.029 --> 00:23:57.230 die today. She's going to make him use the ring 444 00:23:57.329 --> 00:23:59.019 until it runs out of energy and then kills him. 445 00:23:59.049 --> 00:24:01.069 So here we go. This is a little bit of 446 00:24:01.089 --> 00:24:04.809 a quibble, right? Because this is a cliché. where the villain, 447 00:24:04.910 --> 00:24:07.430 and essentially the Manhunter is a villain in this episode, 448 00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:13.150 reveals their plan to the hero. And it's a little 449 00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:16.579 cliche for me. Usually, you know, good

writing means the 450 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.759 villain doesn't fall into those cliches, but she does here. 451 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.079 Maybe this is arrogance. Maybe this is hubris because she 452 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.079 thinks she's got John and John's going to owe her. 453 00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:31.079 And she thinks that Hal and John have been battling 454 00:24:31.220 --> 00:24:33.579 because she's seen that and Hal left John to die 455 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.380 in the car. Maybe the Manhunter thinks that Hal, that 456 00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:39.220 it's okay to tell John this because John's not going 457 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.900 to stop. Right? But he tells her. She says she 458 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.180 can heal him, but only if he tells the Guardian 459 00:24:45.700 --> 00:24:49.000 that Hal died fighting Anton and his avenging angels and 460 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.519 his sacrifice will restore peace and John will get the 461 00:24:51.579 --> 00:24:54.859 ring that is rightfully his. And she asks him if 462 00:24:54.880 --> 00:25:00.440 he wants her to save him And then he does. 463 00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:04.509 She drops the blood in his eye, and there's a 464 00:25:04.549 --> 00:25:07.430 conversation or joke about, like, if I come back as white, 465 00:25:07.930 --> 00:25:10.190 I'm going to be mad at you. And then she says, well, 466 00:25:10.210 --> 00:25:14.089 if I make you darker, will that be an issue? Whoa. 467 00:25:17.369 --> 00:25:24.200 Someone's setting off fireworks. Sorry, guys. Will that be an issue? And, well, 468 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:28.000 it's throwing me off. Sorry. Yeah, someone's setting off fireworks. 469 00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:29.769 I guess you guys can hear it. This is the 470 00:25:29.809 --> 00:25:31.910 residential neighborhood I live in. It's nine o'clock and they're 471 00:25:31.930 --> 00:25:35.250 setting off fireworks. Or anyway, he tells her like, yeah, 472 00:25:36.349 --> 00:25:38.250 she says she drops the blood in there and he 473 00:25:38.289 --> 00:25:40.130 makes a joke about like, don't make me come back white. 474 00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:42.450 And then he says, she says, well, what if I 475 00:25:42.490 --> 00:25:45.210 make you black or darker? He says, don't do that either, 476 00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:47.680 because my brothers are really giving me shit about that. 477 00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:50.700 And he said and she said, well, would they get jealous? 478 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.069 And he was yes and no, because they think. He 479 00:25:53.089 --> 00:25:54.769 got a fair shake, but he didn't get a fair shake, 480 00:25:54.809 --> 00:25:56.609 and they got a fair shake. So a little bit 481 00:25:56.670 --> 00:25:58.529 more of the thing with the brothers. And I wonder 482 00:25:58.549 --> 00:26:01.519 if that's going to bear fruit in the next three episodes. 483 00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:04.359 Will we see him talking with his brothers? Will there 484 00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:07.940 be conversations about the situation? And we also go back 485 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.720 in time, which I think is fascinating, to look at 486 00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:18.740 all of this stuff with John. And then John asks her, like, 487 00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:22.569 Why did you come back in this form? Why did 488 00:26:22.609 --> 00:26:25.190 you take this form to be on this planet? And 489 00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:29.960 she talks about coming from a disadvantageous position to understand 490 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.000 the culture she was coming into. So in a sense 491 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.440 saying that a woman of color in this society, in 492 00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.900 our society, is one of the biggest disadvantages that a 493 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.000 person can have when they come into this earth. That 494 00:26:43.019 --> 00:26:47.859 a woman of color has men against her possibly, has 495 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.769 white people against her possibly, has her own people against 496 00:26:52.809 --> 00:26:56.309 her possibly. And we know that they, if you look 497 00:26:56.329 --> 00:27:00.269 at the statistics, women of color are paid the least 498 00:27:00.410 --> 00:27:03.400 on the scale in larger percentages of jobs doing the 499 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.819 same job as white women or white men. And so 500 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.099 this idea of being disadvantageous in the situation. Now, I 501 00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:13.519 don't know her taking that form that she took, how 502 00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.529 much of that bleeds into it, even because I think she's, 503 00:27:17.549 --> 00:27:25.579 I think... I think Porna is, is she Indian? I 504 00:27:25.579 --> 00:27:28.519 think she's Indian. I've had to clarify this before in 505 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:33.069 the past. And so, yeah, no, she was born in Tunisia. 506 00:27:33.089 --> 00:27:35.930 My fault. I'm sorry. She was born in Tunisia. So, but, 507 00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:39.869 you know, she's a darker skinned woman. So what she 508 00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:41.509 has to experience. So she talks about it. And then 509 00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:45.140 she says that adversity is what creates you. Like, she's 510 00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:49.160 not saying it's okay that there's racism. It's okay that there's, Sexism, 511 00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:52.119 it's okay that there's tough things that people go through 512 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.799 because of their gender or their sexual orientation or their 513 00:27:54.819 --> 00:27:59.779 color or the wealth they were born into. She's just 514 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:04.339 saying in her mind that adversity is what breeds you, 515 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.799 is what creates you, is what builds you, not comfort. 516 00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:12.519 Comfort won't create you. Adversity does. And I say, I 517 00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:16.200 am a child of adversity. I am absolutely created from

adversity. 518 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.619 So I kind of agreed to her with her for 519 00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:21.799 a bit, but we seek comfort because we want to 520 00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:23.380 get away from the, we want to get to that 521 00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:26.059 point where we are overcome the adversity so we can 522 00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.460 have some comfort in our lives. So I think it's 523 00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:30.559 a fascinating exchange that they have where we go from 524 00:28:30.619 --> 00:28:34.319 skin color with John and his brothers to talking about 525 00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:39.700 her taking on a woman of colors visage in order 526 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:43.740 to study our culture from the most disadvantageous position possible. 527 00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:46.450 She could. I thought that was a fascinating quick exchange 528 00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:52.220 between the two of them. Yeah. Let's see here. And 529 00:28:52.259 --> 00:28:55.660 then she drops the blood. Right, right. And then when 530 00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:58.160 she drops the blood, we see the flashback to the 531 00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.680 scene at five years old when he gets the Green 532 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.119 Lantern costume. We see him revisiting all the things he 533 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.269 was put through to overcome fear, and then he passes out. 534 00:29:07.529 --> 00:29:10.809 And then when we see the machine let him out, 535 00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:15.980 he immediately calls... her out for killing Abansur. She says 536 00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:17.700 that's why she's drawn to him. He really sees. So 537 00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:21.799 he figures out that she killed Abansur, even though she 538 00:29:21.859 --> 00:29:23.900 says at the beginning of the episode with Carrie in 539 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:28.319 the diner, that someone did her a solid and saved her. 540 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.069 And essentially the Manhunter brought her here to protect her 541 00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:35.430 from the guardians. And she killed Abansur because she could 542 00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:38.750 not take the chance that at some point Abansur could 543 00:29:38.789 --> 00:29:40.900 maybe turn her in. So I'm sure that was something 544 00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:44.339 that developed over time and then she eventually killed him 545 00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:47.539 and so he sent the ring out to hal that's 546 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.960 how hal got the ring so i'm just curious where 547 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.039 this all leads did liana know the man hunter was 548 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.180 here what is liana's role in all of this why 549 00:29:57.220 --> 00:29:58.779 does she want to get rid of hal so badly 550 00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:02.190 I just have questions around it. Does Hal know about this, 551 00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:05.210 the Abin Sur stuff? Is she worried that because Hal 552 00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:07.890 is connected to Abin Sur that Abin Sur imparted some 553 00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:09.990 sort of wisdom about the Manhunter, about whatever plot was 554 00:30:10.009 --> 00:30:12.650 going on there? I think there's a lot of questions, right? 555 00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:14.660 And even later on when Jon throws her the bag, 556 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.259 it says your sins and consequences are in that bag, 557 00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:20.519 your prior sins and consequences. So it's just like little 558 00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:22.400 seeds that are being dropped here that I think are 559 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.200 fascinating to think about when you look at this. But 560 00:30:25.259 --> 00:30:27.839 Hal lands in the town, sees all kinds of shell casings, 561 00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:29.440 walks around to a truck, sees a dude shot in 562 00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.980 the head. He walks in the cafe, sees more dead bodies, 563 00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:34.700 and he suddenly covers himself in a green force field 564 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.259 as Anton's men empty their machine guns at him. Of course, 565 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.220 he's protected from the shield. And then he says he 566 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.240 wants to strike a deal with them. Anton walks out. 567 00:30:44.049 --> 00:30:45.769 He wants to know where Jon Stewart is. Hal tells 568 00:30:45.849 --> 00:30:48.549 Anton he was compromised by the Manhunter. He lies to 569 00:30:48.569 --> 00:30:51.759 them that William Macon is the Manhunter. Watch them work together, 570 00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:54.619 which is what he essentially was intimating to Jon. But 571 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.240 Anton then goes down an interesting path and says that 572 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:04.019 Stewart essentially had coitus, so essentially had sex with Macon. 573 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.430 And Hal says, because the Manhunter always finds the Alpha, 574 00:31:09.809 --> 00:31:12.269 seduces the Alpha, as I said earlier, and bends him 575 00:31:12.910 --> 00:31:15.710 to their will and as we find out later in 576 00:31:15.769 --> 00:31:20.150 retrospect anton was clearly talking about himself as well because 577 00:31:20.190 --> 00:31:23.869 when he confronts macon thinking he's the manhunter he essentially 578 00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:26.170 reveals that the manhunter had been his wife which is 579 00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:28.170 what he was alluding to in the second episode i 580 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.380 think when they kidnapped john i think it was the 581 00:31:30.390 --> 00:31:32.900 second episode of first episode when they kidnapped john and 582 00:31:32.980 --> 00:31:35.920 put those memories inside of him of what he went 583 00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:40.259 through so But then Hal, I think his pride's a 584 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.670 little wounded here. And this just shows you how much 585 00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:45.509 pride Hal has that he's like, no, no, no. He 586 00:31:45.529 --> 00:31:48.009 tried to bang me.

He tried to have coitus with me. 587 00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:50.289 I'm the man in this situation. He tried to have 588 00:31:50.309 --> 00:31:52.250 sex with me. Not, I'm the alpha. He tried to 589 00:31:52.269 --> 00:31:54.609 have sex with me, not John, which I think is 590 00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:58.150 so fucking weird. And Anton says, well, I always thought 591 00:31:58.170 --> 00:32:02.579 you were, you always thought you were hetero. And Hal 592 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.940 says something about, it's not about preference, it's about opportunity 593 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.710 because I've seen all the things we've seen in the galaxy, 594 00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:10.990 which I think is a little funny. But they strike 595 00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:14.170 a deal after the kill order comes in. And Anton 596 00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:16.539 says to him, if you're lying that Macon is the Manhunter, 597 00:32:16.990 --> 00:32:19.579 I will kill many people in the town. And Hal 598 00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:23.579 looks at his ring and ponders this after they leave. 599 00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:27.119 So I think in that moment, Hal is having like 600 00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:31.619 a reflective moment of how much he's doing just to 601 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.269 keep the ring. I don't think it was, clearly it 602 00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:37.170 wasn't strong enough to stop Hal from going down this path. 603 00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:41.349 But clearly there is some level of Hal that was 604 00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:44.089 the consciousness that came out of his ring on that 605 00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:48.410 water tower earlier in this episode that is a good person. 606 00:32:49.049 --> 00:32:51.690 And I think him sitting there with that ring contemplating 607 00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:54.390 what he's about to do and what he's got to 608 00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:57.029 do and the lives he's going to sacrifice in order 609 00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:00.309 to keep this ring. It's not enough to stop him 610 00:33:00.329 --> 00:33:02.250 from his path, but it's enough to make us think 611 00:33:02.289 --> 00:33:05.029 that there is still something good in Hal, even though 612 00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:12.170 he is going down this very destructive road. you know? Um, uh, 613 00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:14.349 Macon is watching the feed calls. Zoe says, this is it. 614 00:33:14.369 --> 00:33:16.589 They have a tender exchange, expressing love for each other 615 00:33:16.650 --> 00:33:19.190 in her language, which she must've taught him. Obviously I 616 00:33:19.210 --> 00:33:22.650 thought this was a very sweet moment, even though clearly he, 617 00:33:23.049 --> 00:33:27.779 she manipulated him into this relationship because of saving his cancer. Uh, 618 00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:30.279 she asks if he's sure. And he says, yes, he's 619 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.440 ready to defend her. And then thanks her for the 620 00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:36.410 extra time, which I thought was really sweet. And you 621 00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:38.720 understand that he was willing to do all of this. Now, 622 00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:40.150 I don't know how much sympathy you can have for 623 00:33:40.190 --> 00:33:42.240 a guy who was essentially the cattle baron of the 624 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.559 town and probably brokered the deal with the town between 625 00:33:47.579 --> 00:33:51.240 the Manhunter and its residents, saying essentially, we'll all be 626 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.980 fine because the Manhunter is going to keep us healthy. 627 00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:58.990 And people bought into this exchange willingly. This isn't a 628 00:33:59.069 --> 00:34:02.460 WandaVision situation. They knew who the Manhunter was. They wanted 629 00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:06.400 to defend the Manhunter. They entered into this bargain. So 630 00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:09.559 I know it's terrible that some of them died, but 631 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.320 if you're harboring a war criminal, there is a possibility 632 00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:16.500 you could die. And so, you know, in the end, 633 00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:18.960 that's the collateral damage on the ground. I still think 634 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.840 it's terrible, but I don't think it's necessary. Like these 635 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.500 innocent people who were caught up, like they agreed to this. 636 00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:27.179 So I don't know how much sympathy I have, even 637 00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:29.099 though it's a very brutal scene later on with the 638 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.570 young girl and her mom. crying over their dad after 639 00:34:34.889 --> 00:34:38.239 when John gives him the watch. Anyway, they had a 640 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.820 big shootout with the Macon people. Anton's people happen. They 641 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.199 blow up some of the guards. One of the guys 642 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.900 jumps out of the truck, runs towards the underground bunker 643 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.179 and blows that up. Macon waits for Anton, pretends to 644 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.639 be the Manhunter, asks Anton. Anton asks him all kinds 645 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.300 of questions. He turns this light on him and says 646 00:34:57.340 --> 00:35:00.690 he's going to dismember him. And look, To Macon's credit, 647 00:35:01.030 --> 00:35:05.670 Macon holds on to this thing pretty far, answering Anton's questions. 648 00:35:06.050 --> 00:35:09.159 And we find out that essentially Anton was with this Manhunter. 649 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.039 They couldn't conceive kids for whatever reasons. They were lovers. 650 00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:15.960 She seduced him. I think he's still very hurt about it, 651 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.280 that he got tricked. So this is a lot of 652 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.130 this is his pride. Yes, it's for the people who 653 00:35:21.530 --> 00:35:24.199 were killed, his civilization that were killed. but it's also 654

00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.739 his pride. And it makes you wonder, is this the 655 00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:31.480 tactic that all the Manhunters used? Is this what they did, right? 656 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.719 Did they go into societies, find the alpha, seduce the alpha, 657 00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:38.119 bend the alpha to their will, and then wipe out 658 00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:41.619 these civilizations as Anton was telling us in the second 659 00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:44.579 or first episode about what these Manhunters did? Is that 660 00:35:44.739 --> 00:35:47.409 how they did this? Because Anton is saying that this 661 00:35:47.469 --> 00:35:51.849 is their tactic. He says that to Hal earlier, and 662 00:35:51.889 --> 00:35:55.909 now he's having this exchange with Macon essentially being familiar 663 00:35:55.949 --> 00:35:58.710 with him as if they were together in coitus in 664 00:35:58.750 --> 00:36:01.090 the past. And so I wonder if this is what, 665 00:36:01.170 --> 00:36:06.139 and again, this speaks to how power can corrupt, total 666 00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:08.900 power can corrupt. The guardians were, or the Manhunters were 667 00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:13.780 handed total power to enact justice. And they started enacting 668 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.679 justice in a way that was brutal and horrific and 669 00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:21.860 almost like putting your face in the dirt. By making 670 00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:24.619 you fall in love with them, seducing you, and then 671 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:26.619 turning you against your own people and killing you. So 672 00:36:26.820 --> 00:36:28.679 your guard would be down so they could knock out all. 673 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.829 So it's brutal the way they meted out justice. So 674 00:36:32.349 --> 00:36:36.409 I think this is, again, it's a message about how 675 00:36:37.010 --> 00:36:41.300 absolute power can corrupt absolutely and can you know, cause 676 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.429 you to do some pretty horrific things because you think 677 00:36:43.449 --> 00:36:46.250 you're right. You're willing to do all these terrible things 678 00:36:46.750 --> 00:36:48.710 because you think you're doing the right thing. You think 679 00:36:48.730 --> 00:36:51.829 you're meeting out justice, right? And I think that's important 680 00:36:51.869 --> 00:36:54.630 to think about this idea of justice and who gets 681 00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:57.449 to meet out justice and who doesn't and why and 682 00:36:57.610 --> 00:36:59.670 how brutal people in power who feel like they have 683 00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:03.210 absolute power, how brutally they will act in order to 684 00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:06.090 meet out that justice. So something to think about, I think, 685 00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:11.920 throughout this whole episode. But Macon eventually betrays himself by 686 00:37:12.019 --> 00:37:16.420 welcoming death in a way. And so Anton figures it out, jumps, jump, 687 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.590

Paul Ben Victor, nice job with the stunt there, jumping 688 00:37:18.650 --> 00:37:21.610 up there, taking his heart out of his chest and 689 00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:24.289 realizing it's not the Manhunter. It is a human being. 690 00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:28.070 Then Hal shows up and grabs Zoe, but her henchman 691 00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.030 who was taken off with a couple of her henchmen 692 00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.699 there by the helicopter. but her henchmen managed to blow 693 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.900 up the water tower, which sends out that black smoke. 694 00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:40.539 Hal ties her, handcuffs her to the helicopter, fights through 695 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.989 the black smoke, beats up one of the guards, takes 696 00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:45.889 on the glasses. What I call, I put, I put 697 00:37:45.989 --> 00:37:50.110 in for green instead of infrared glasses, sees Anton coming. 698 00:37:50.489 --> 00:37:55.989 Here's Anton's Bob going off and sends him into a whirlwind, 699 00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:58.739 a whirlpool, essentially a whirlwind rather. all the way up 700 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.619 into the sky and he blows up. So Anton dies. 701 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.239 So now Macon is dead. Anton is dead. Some members 702 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.500 of the town are dead. Um, He sees that Zoe 703 00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:10.289 has taken her, cut off her hand and escaped. He 704 00:38:10.329 --> 00:38:13.909 gets into the helicopter and he flies out of the 705 00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.190 black smoke and lands in the motel parking lot. Meanwhile, 706 00:38:17.289 --> 00:38:19.150 John has called his mom and dad and they want 707 00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:20.449 to know if he has the ring, but he wants 708 00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:22.590 to be patched into Leanna. He tells them that he 709 00:38:22.650 --> 00:38:25.650 is going to rip the ring off Hal's motherfucking finger 710 00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:28.880 as he grabs that rifle that I think he left 711 00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:31.019 from the last episode when he just needed the scope. 712 00:38:31.380 --> 00:38:34.309 He grabs the rifle, takes it with him, and heads 713 00:38:34.329 --> 00:38:37.639 to the motel himself. As I said, Hal flies and lands. 714 00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:40.239 So this is him calling his parents, and his parents 715 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:41.739 are like, have you done it? Have you gotten the ring? 716 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.679 He's like, pass me Annaliana. What's the fucking problem? And 717 00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:46.320 his parents are like, no, no, let us know. Did 718 00:38:46.340 --> 00:38:49.059 you get the ring or not? So how compromised are 719 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.400 his parents in this situation? That's something I'm starting to 720 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.320 kind of think about as we go into the next 721 00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:57.769 three episodes. How compromised are his parents in making sure 722 00:38:57.809 --> 00:39:00.349 he gets the ring, he becomes a Green Lantern? We see, 723 00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:03.010 as I said, throughout this whole review and reaction episode, 724 00:39:03.489 --> 00:39:06.159 A lot of people making deals with these people who 725 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.000 have a lot of power. How do these deals blow 726 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.179 up in their faces? And John, in essence, when he 727 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.860 got the skin and made that deal with the Manhunter, 728 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.159 he turned on the Manhunter, broke that dude's neck, escaped 729 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:19.679 out of there, which I didn't talk about, but he 730 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.110 did it. And so he's now on the mission to 731 00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:25.460 do what he needs to do. He's betrayed the Manhunter 732 00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:28.730 after she made him promise that he would like, protect 733 00:39:28.789 --> 00:39:33.570 her and essentially give up Hal or essentially, yeah, give 734 00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:35.949 up Hal and tell the Guardians a lie about how 735 00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:39.389 Hal died and get the ring, right? So there's corruption. 736 00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.389 There's a way that Jon Stewart wants to get the 737 00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:42.960 ring and there's a way Jon Stewart doesn't want to 738 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.780 get the ring or multiple ways Jon Stewart doesn't want 739 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.820 to get the ring. And both the Guardian, both Lyanna 740 00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:50.119 and Zoey are not the ways that he wants to 741 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:51.679 get the ring. And the way his parents want him 742 00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:53.619 to get the ring is also not a way that 743 00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.579 John does not want to get the ring. So very 744 00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.880 interesting stuff there when you look at that. Anyway, he 745 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.940 goes into his room, Hal does, to recharge the ring 746 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.889 because we've been hearing throughout the episode that it's running 747 00:40:02.929 --> 00:40:05.530 out of power, which was Zoe's plan all along. But 748 00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:08.829 before he can recite the full oath, he starts out 749 00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:11.969 reciting the oath. John attacks him. They have a brutal 750 00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:16.110 physical battle, kicking each other, throwing each other, punching each other, 751 00:40:16.150 --> 00:40:19.360 hitting balls, like everything's in play. here in this situation. 752 00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:22.699 But just as John grabs Hal to choke him out, 753 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.159 as we saw him choke out the guard in that 754 00:40:25.219 --> 00:40:29.440 hospital room, a red light comes blaring through behind them. 755 00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:35.949 And this is those attacks from Zoe's satellites that she 756 00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:38.050 has set up around the town. So

she, in essence, 757 00:40:38.110 --> 00:40:41.590 is going to blow up John and Hal. So maybe 758 00:40:41.630 --> 00:40:43.530 she realizes that John has turned on her, so she 759 00:40:43.550 --> 00:40:45.860 doesn't care if she kills John and Hal with one 760 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.420 of her shots. But instinctively, Hal protects both of them, 761 00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:52.139 which again, as I said, there's still some goodness in Hal. 762 00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:55.780 No matter how much he is pursuing this dangerous and 763 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.110 destructive path to keep the ring, he still somewhat cares 764 00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:06.210 for John, I think, to a degree. And Hal, and John, 765 00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:11.380 it explodes, and John runs out and leaves Hal in 766 00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:14.079 the rubble, right? And we think, oh, he's gone. What's 767 00:41:14.099 --> 00:41:16.639 this all about? Then Zoe walks up ready to kill 768 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.159 Hal and asks him why Hal left him there if 769 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:26.820 he's no coward. And Hal weakly says to her, bait 770 00:41:27.260 --> 00:41:32.710 as bait. And she realizes this before she pulls the 771 00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:34.969 gun to kill Hal that he might be right. She 772 00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:38.929 turns and we see that John has a scope and 773 00:41:38.949 --> 00:41:42.329 the rifle aimed directly at her and she's in his sights. 774 00:41:43.340 --> 00:41:44.860 And this is where I have a little bit of 775 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.619 a quibble because she turns and almost in a lovelorn 776 00:41:49.699 --> 00:41:54.360 way accepts her death and John shoots her in the head. 777 00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.050 And I was really surprised about that because, I mean, 778 00:41:57.090 --> 00:41:59.449 if she's a Manhunter who has done all these things 779 00:41:59.889 --> 00:42:03.030 to stay alive and killed all these people to stay alive, 780 00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:06.570 why would she willingly accept the death from John? And 781 00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:08.789 if she's so powerful, wouldn't she have been able to 782 00:42:08.849 --> 00:42:11.769 stop the bullet? That's the thing. And she's so quick 783 00:42:11.849 --> 00:42:14.849 and so strong. why did she accept her death in 784 00:42:14.889 --> 00:42:18.590 that moment? It's very interesting to me. Is it because 785 00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.659 she knows that John will find out what's really going 786 00:42:21.820 --> 00:42:26.139 on here, uh, between her and Leanna possibly, or what 787 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:27.920 the deal was with the man hunters or why she 788 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.400 was spared. Like, I just think Zoe gave herself up 789 00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:35.010 too easily for me to believe because she is a 790 00:42:35.030 --> 00:42:37.150 person of such immense power. So I just have a 791 00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:42.570 little bit of suspicion here with what happened. Um, He

792 00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:44.530 walks by a dead father's body, as I said, picks 793 00:42:44.570 --> 00:42:46.309 up this watch, gives it to the crying child and wife. 794 00:42:46.750 --> 00:42:48.829 He then finds Zoe, cuts her heart over her chest, 795 00:42:49.230 --> 00:42:53.130 and it crystallizes, proving she's a manhunter. He then grabs 796 00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:55.489 the lantern, walks up to Hal. We have this shot here. 797 00:42:55.570 --> 00:43:00.349 I want to... Walks up to Hal and wrestles the 798 00:43:00.409 --> 00:43:04.449 ring off. Like, Hal is barely alive, but John wrestles 799 00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:09.010 the ring off Hal. But Hal resists, resists and grunts 800 00:43:09.809 --> 00:43:12.269 as John yanks the ring off of his finger finally. 801 00:43:13.340 --> 00:43:18.349 And Hal asks John, was it worth it? And John 802 00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:22.289 doesn't answer and puts the ring on just as a 803 00:43:22.329 --> 00:43:24.429 bird appears because we know the bird is a big 804 00:43:24.469 --> 00:43:27.309 deal from when he was a kid. He walks away 805 00:43:27.349 --> 00:43:30.090 with the lantern as Hal says, yells after him. They 806 00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:33.590 replaced me. They'll replace you, which is a fair point. 807 00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:37.400 I think it's awesome that only the O is flashing 808 00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:40.599 in motel. The motel sign for me that maybe symbolizes Owa. 809 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.280 The O, that, you know, is me. Um, he now 810 00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:48.429 walks through the town and people surround him training their 811 00:43:48.489 --> 00:43:51.449 rifles and their, their weapons on him. But then Carrie 812 00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:53.130 shows up, tells him to stand down. She wants to 813 00:43:53.150 --> 00:43:55.409 know where Hal is. He tells her that he's at 814 00:43:55.449 --> 00:43:59.929 the hotel. Uh, he walks into the bar and there is, um, 815 00:44:00.309 --> 00:44:05.289 Leanna waiting for him. He is there, uh, in the bar. Um, 816 00:44:06.849 --> 00:44:08.710 she tells him it was a, uh, he tells her 817 00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:10.289 that it was, or she tells him that it was a, 818 00:44:10.690 --> 00:44:12.929 what she calls a shit show, shit show or shit storm. 819 00:44:13.889 --> 00:44:15.530 And that he should have called her earlier. He tells 820 00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:17.750 her Hal is alive, which he's not happy, which she's 821 00:44:17.789 --> 00:44:19.849 not happy about, which you can tell on her face. 822 00:44:20.469 --> 00:44:22.309 She wants to know what's in the bag. And he says, 823 00:44:22.849 --> 00:44:27.489 your sins and consequences. She opens the bag, pulls out 824 00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:36.440 the heart of the Manhunter. And he says, and she says, 825 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.420 even we make mistakes and all we can do is 826 00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:43.360 correct them. Hal talks about how, or John talks, he 827 00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:46.360 talks about how long he spent imagining what it would 828 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.460 be like to wear the ring, right? To wear the ring. 829 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.980 But he thought he'd have all these feelings that were like, 830 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.739 you know, strength, power, accomplishment, you know, that everything was 831 00:44:56.780 --> 00:44:59.519 worth it. Everything he went through was worth it, but 832 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.239 he felt empty. And he says, Hal betrayed everything to 833 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.480 keep the ring, his code, the oath, even himself, and 834 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.699 it broke him. He says, Hal probably doesn't remember why 835 00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:12.940 he wanted it, And now he says, neither do I. 836 00:45:13.409 --> 00:45:16.050 He takes the ring off, sets it on the bar, 837 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.219 and walks out. And I think that's an incredible ending 838 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:24.340 to this episode. Because again, the pursuit for power, the 839 00:45:24.380 --> 00:45:27.820 pursuit of power can corrupt you. The pursuit for the 840 00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.420 ultimate power or the pursuit for the thing that you 841 00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:34.079 think you're destined for and you're willing to destroy anything 842 00:45:34.099 --> 00:45:38.380 in the process or be underhanded or lie or trick 843 00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:41.219 the person you're trying to get it from You may 844 00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:43.880 not like the person you become in order to get 845 00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:49.260 the thing you want. And I think that's incredibly important 846 00:45:49.300 --> 00:45:52.460 to think about how from the, how we see in 847 00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.139 the conscious. And I think that was on purpose to 848 00:45:54.179 --> 00:45:57.110 bring back his consciousness. It was a much more jovial, 849 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.550 happier guy who likes John from having had the quick 850 00:46:00.590 --> 00:46:05.690 conversation with him to the, how that is consumed by 851 00:46:05.809 --> 00:46:10.139 keeping power by staying in the rotation of by being 852 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.869 on an NBA court, being in a major league baseball uniform, 853 00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:18.929 or still staying at the job, even though he's outlived 854 00:46:18.969 --> 00:46:22.690 his usefulness. Like there's just so much about the idea 855 00:46:22.989 --> 00:46:27.039 of holding on too long and being willing to destroy 856 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:31.639 others who are trying to walk the path that you 857 00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:34.860 walked as a young man and have their shot as well. 858 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.920 You know, it could be Supreme Court justices who stay 859 00:46:37.940 --> 00:46:39.659 too long. It could be senators who stay too long. 860 00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:43.110 Presidents who stay too long and get dementia and end 861 00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:45.809 up

fucking up our world. Like there's all kinds of 862 00:46:45.949 --> 00:46:49.269 things that can be connected to this idea of people 863 00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:52.110 in power holding onto power too long and how it 864 00:46:52.170 --> 00:46:55.340 corrupts them because they don't know who they are without 865 00:46:55.409 --> 00:46:57.519 the power. They don't want to give up the perks 866 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.820 of the power. And so they're willing to destroy anyone. 867 00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:04.519 He was willing to let Jon die to keep the ring. 868 00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:08.019 He was going the Sinestro path. For everyone trying to 869 00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:09.780 defend Hal and say like, oh, he's a good guy, 870 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.420 he's a good guy. And I said a couple of moments, 871 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.119 there's still some goodness in him. But he overall does 872 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.019 some pretty brutal shit. And I think this episode makes 873 00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:20.320 it very clear that he was willing to let Jon die. 874 00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:24.050 He was willing to kill the Manhunter and bring her 875 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.159 lifeless body back to the Guardians. because he wanted the 876 00:47:27.219 --> 00:47:31.199 Guardians to kiss his ass. He wanted that validation. And 877 00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:35.179 so this is an interesting situation when you look at it. 878 00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:39.409 And Jon, who is, of course, in my opinion, the 879 00:47:39.449 --> 00:47:43.510 better of the two Lanterns, and it's been something that's 880 00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:45.710 been going on through the whole series, the idea that 881 00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:49.510 Jon can do the job better, here is his moment 882 00:47:49.550 --> 00:47:51.949 to take the ring and seize power and do the 883 00:47:51.989 --> 00:47:54.829 things he wants to do. But John is a much 884 00:47:54.869 --> 00:48:00.409 more empathetic, conscientious, intelligent person who's not a coward, right? 885 00:48:00.469 --> 00:48:06.449 As Hal says, right? He's fearless. He's so fearless that 886 00:48:06.469 --> 00:48:08.809 he's willing to give up the pursuit of the ring 887 00:48:08.909 --> 00:48:11.730 and having the ring and what his life could be 888 00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:15.530 like with the ring because he doesn't want it this way. 889 00:48:15.789 --> 00:48:17.099 It's not the right way for him to get it. 890 00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:19.130 He knows it's wrong. He feels it in his bones 891 00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:22.869 that it's the wrong thing to do. And where other people... 892 00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:26.590 made deals with people of power in this entire episode. 893 00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:32.289 Kerry Kane, William Macon, maybe William Macon Jr., the town. 894 00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:35.530 All these people made deals with people in power, whether 895 00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:39.420 it was the Manhunter or Macon, or even Anton's

people 896 00:48:39.739 --> 00:48:41.719 who were working under him and doing what he told 897 00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.460 them to do. John is the one person who isn't 898 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:50.239 and who doesn't. In that moment, he realizes, I cannot 899 00:48:50.300 --> 00:48:54.480 make this deal with the devil. And I won't do it. 900 00:48:55.050 --> 00:48:58.769 And I will go live my life without it. And 901 00:48:58.889 --> 00:49:03.429 that is true power. That is true power. You know, 902 00:49:03.489 --> 00:49:05.389 and I think it's an amazing moment at the end 903 00:49:05.849 --> 00:49:07.630 that he gives up the ring, the thing he was 904 00:49:07.690 --> 00:49:11.250 looking for because he knows it isn't the right thing 905 00:49:11.849 --> 00:49:15.230 for him. And he proved he was the better person 906 00:49:15.269 --> 00:49:18.989 and the better lantern. I know some of you, how Jordan, uh, um, 907 00:49:21.250 --> 00:49:23.789 fans will be upset about that and I can totally 908 00:49:23.829 --> 00:49:26.929 understand that but this is one interpretation and there have 909 00:49:26.949 --> 00:49:30.010 been many interpretations of Hal Jordan in the comics but 910 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.780 we all know and I am the most hardcore Hal 911 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.599 Jordan fan will tell you Hal has been a prick 912 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.019 in the comics And this is based on the Green Lantern, 913 00:49:40.059 --> 00:49:43.679 Green Arrow run where Hal was like, you know, did 914 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.860 some stupid shit, said some stupid shit, had to be 915 00:49:45.900 --> 00:49:48.820 corrected about shit in the world. And so the fact 916 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.699 that he here is willing to go this far just 917 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.679 to keep power, I think it's just a conversation about 918 00:49:55.929 --> 00:49:59.989 how many people in our lives hang on to power 919 00:50:00.050 --> 00:50:02.590 longer than they should. Even, you know, some people would argue, 920 00:50:03.449 --> 00:50:06.989 If you want to go political, senators, as I said, representatives, 921 00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:11.570 people at justices, people in power at businesses that hang 922 00:50:11.690 --> 00:50:14.630 on too long. Like, why is Rupert Murdoch still running 923 00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:18.429 some shit? Like, there's these kinds of things. And eventually, 924 00:50:18.650 --> 00:50:20.869 it's the power that corrupts them because they can't live 925 00:50:20.909 --> 00:50:24.389 without it. John realizes this and walks away from it, 926 00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:27.719 which is true power. It's not power to make the 927 00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:30.679 decision to enter into an unholy agreement in order to 928 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.679 keep your power. It's power to know that it's not 929 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.840 the right thing for you to do to walk away 930 00:50:35.900 --> 00:50:38.170 from power because you see

what it can do to 931 00:50:38.190 --> 00:50:40.710 you because you saw what it did to Hal, who 932 00:50:40.750 --> 00:50:43.349 was a good person and got twisted by the power, 933 00:50:43.389 --> 00:50:44.829 just like the ring in Lord of the Rings to 934 00:50:44.849 --> 00:50:48.570 a degree. So yeah, I think it's fantastic to see this. 935 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.039 And now we go into 2026 and we don't know 936 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.659 what's going to happen. We don't know what becomes of Hal. 937 00:50:58.630 --> 00:51:00.969 How does Guy Gardner get the ring? Because clearly neither 938 00:51:01.030 --> 00:51:04.269 Hal nor John get the ring. It seems like Hal 939 00:51:04.349 --> 00:51:07.190 is dead because if you've seen the preview of the 940 00:51:07.230 --> 00:51:09.489 trailer for the next episode, he is in an autopsy. 941 00:51:09.510 --> 00:51:12.280 They are looking at him and whatever. Maybe they pull 942 00:51:12.340 --> 00:51:14.960 out his heart and it's crystallized. I don't know. But 943 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.400 to me, I think he really is dead. I've been 944 00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:19.539 kind of resisting the belief that he was really dead. 945 00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:21.699 But after seeing the end of this episode and seeing 946 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.079 the preview, I think he really is dead. And so 947 00:51:24.139 --> 00:51:26.340 John now is on the case to figure out what 948 00:51:26.380 --> 00:51:28.909 happened here. I think Noah's going to have something to 949 00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:30.860 do with this. I think Leanna's going to have something 950 00:51:30.889 --> 00:51:34.500 to do with this. Maybe Sinestra will have something to 951 00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:37.280 do with this. I just think there's more coming. Because 952 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.500 this episode could have easily been the second to last episode. Easily. 953 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:43.800 But the fact that we're getting this episode as the 954 00:51:43.860 --> 00:51:46.869 fifth episode and there's three episodes left, there's so much 955 00:51:46.969 --> 00:51:51.050 more to explore here about what happens with these characters 956 00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:54.969 and with this story and what happens in 2026. So 957 00:51:55.230 --> 00:51:58.679 it'll be interesting. We will see. I know some people 958 00:51:58.699 --> 00:52:00.340 are going to be really mad that Hal is dead, 959 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:10.050 but that's the story they're telling. Right, Brian, good point. 960 00:52:10.090 --> 00:52:11.789 John is in jail for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We 961 00:52:11.809 --> 00:52:13.150 got to figure out what that is. I'm sure they're 962 00:52:13.170 --> 00:52:17.570 going to show us as well. But yeah, so we 963 00:52:17.610 --> 00:52:18.889 get to the end of the episode. I think it 964 00:52:18.909 --> 00:52:21.780 was phenomenal. Again, I think there's conversations to be had 965 00:52:21.820 --> 00:52:24.469 about some of the messages in this episode. But overall, 966 00:52:24.510 --> 00:52:26.110 even if you don't want to talk about the messages, 967 00:52:26.469 --> 00:52:30.590 this was a really well-written, well-directed, well-acted episode. I think 968 00:52:30.730 --> 00:52:34.050 everything we've been building to through the four episodes led 969 00:52:34.110 --> 00:52:36.559 us to the fifth episode. As I said, I have 970 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.059 some quibbles. I will say Anton died way too quickly. 971 00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:43.219 Macon died way too quickly, considering how they were built 972 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.539 up in the first four episodes to have them die 973 00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:49.019 like this. But in war, sometimes that's what happens. People 974 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:55.269 who are the biggest leaders die unexpectedly from whatever reason 975 00:52:55.289 --> 00:52:59.110 i just finished watching another episode of the american revolution 976 00:52:59.170 --> 00:53:03.320 and you see how many of these generals and uh 977 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:05.519 lieutenants or captains or officers who were in charge who 978 00:53:05.539 --> 00:53:09.940 were just incredible military tacticians die in a random bullet 979 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.920 that hits them or ball at that time hits them 980 00:53:13.019 --> 00:53:15.980 during a battle where they were untouched for numerous battles 981 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.650 some random ball hits them and they die so it's 982 00:53:18.690 --> 00:53:22.079 the way it is sometimes in war And so Anton 983 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.579 and Macon are essentially casualties of this kind of thing. 984 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.300 But I would have liked a little bit more. I 985 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:33.090 don't know if Anton was atrocitous. A lot of people 986 00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:36.110 are saying not, so we'll see. But it seems odd 987 00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:40.250 to have some nondescript species show up seeking revenge without 988 00:53:40.369 --> 00:53:42.929 something more to it. So I think there's still more 989 00:53:42.969 --> 00:53:46.519 to come from this entire story as we go into 2026. 990 00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.090 But clearly we're now focusing on Who killed Hal Jordan? 991 00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:52.210 How did he die? Why did he die? And who's 992 00:53:52.250 --> 00:53:54.530 behind it? So that's probably going to be the focus. 993 00:53:54.570 --> 00:53:56.849 But I can't imagine that we're going to go away 994 00:53:56.909 --> 00:54:00.699 from 2016 or go away from when John was a 995 00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:03.159 little kid. I think there's still more information to be 996 00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.719 doled out as we go along with this stuff. And 997 00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:08.219 this may be how John ends up getting the ring 998 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:12.380 again is by going through this process to find out 999 00:54:12.420 --> 00:54:14.260 what happened to Hal. Because

I know, as you said, 1000 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:19.559 Guy has the ring. So we will see. Manhunter, Makin 1001 00:54:19.579 --> 00:54:22.789 went out like a G. He did, he did, he did. No, 1002 00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:28.070 they can't tell him because that's why, yeah, because they're droids. 1003 00:54:28.110 --> 00:54:32.800 They're synthetic beings. So that's why Anton asks Makin, like, 1004 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.320 what's the name of our kids? And Makin says, we 1005 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.889 couldn't have kids because they cannot procreate. So no, they can't, so. 1006 00:54:40.750 --> 00:54:44.550 All right, let's see. Let's answer some questions here from 1007 00:54:44.590 --> 00:54:47.059 you guys or anything more you want to talk. I mean, 1008 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.760 I feel like I covered everything. The Easter eggs, there 1009 00:54:49.780 --> 00:54:53.139 weren't that many Easter eggs in this. I would say 1010 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.159 just the Carrie Kane stuff. For me, the big Easter 1011 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.110 egg on that is that I think the cutting off 1012 00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:04.230 of the pinky, I mean, that's something Yakuza do in 1013 00:55:05.050 --> 00:55:07.929 the Japanese lore. I don't think this is a Japanese thing. 1014 00:55:08.590 --> 00:55:11.170 But it could be Black Mask. As we saw, John, 1015 00:55:11.210 --> 00:55:16.260 we saw when we went into that mall, there was 1016 00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:20.119 that brand name that is connected to Roman's dad, who 1017 00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.800 is Roman becomes Black Mask. So I think maybe this 1018 00:55:22.860 --> 00:55:25.880 is a mafia thing. I think that may be Black Mask. 1019 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.880 So we may be getting something in that connective tissue. 1020 00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:32.699 But who's Kerry Kane's dad? Why did he snitch? Who 1021 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:35.659 did he snitch on? And are these goons working for 1022 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.539 Black Mask? I just think that that's a little bit 1023 00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:40.760 of an Easter egg when you look at the situation. 1024 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.400 But if you guys have any other Easter eggs or 1025 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.539 any other questions you want me to find out, am 1026 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.610 I blurry again? Okay, give me a second, guys. Give 1027 00:55:46.630 --> 00:55:48.630 me a second. I'll come right back. I'm getting an 1028 00:55:48.670 --> 00:55:54.539 extender on Tuesday, and that will hopefully solve the Internet issue. 1029 00:55:55.079 --> 00:56:09.940 I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Okay, how 1030 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.179 about now? Am I good? Am I good? Am I 1031 00:56:12.219 --> 00:56:15.780 good now? Hopefully I'm good. Yeah, so we'll see. We'll see. 1032 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.699 We'll see. Let's hear some questions. Hopefully I'm not too 1033 00:56:18.739 --> 00:56:22.159 blurry now. Stephen Photos says, if comic fans can't handle this, 1034 00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:24.360 how will they ever handle a proper Jean Grey Dark 1035 00:56:24.380 --> 00:56:28.340 Phoenix adaptation where she destroys an entire planet of people? Yeah, 1036 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.539 I mean, if people are, listen, I get it if 1037 00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:33.219 people are fans of Hal Jordan and they're mad that 1038 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.980 they're getting this version of Hal Jordan, can totally understand it. But, 1039 00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:39.840 you know, there's a lesson. There's a story they wanted 1040 00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.679 to tell. James Gunn approved this story with Tom King. 1041 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.090 They pitched it. And this is the path they want 1042 00:56:45.110 --> 00:56:49.070 to go on. And John's obsession with the ring, that's 1043 00:56:49.090 --> 00:56:52.369 what they wanted to explore, leading to John eventually getting 1044 00:56:52.389 --> 00:56:54.409 the ring. I don't know what happens to Guy Gardner. 1045 00:56:54.429 --> 00:56:57.420 I don't know if two lanterns will exist. I don't know. But, yeah, 1046 00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.539 I can understand people's upsetness if they love Hal Jordan. 1047 00:57:00.980 --> 00:57:02.880 I do think some people are upset because they don't 1048 00:57:02.900 --> 00:57:06.389 like that the white old guy is getting sidelined for 1049 00:57:06.429 --> 00:57:09.110 the young black man. I'm sure there's some racism to 1050 00:57:09.710 --> 00:57:12.250 some of the issues. Not every person who has an 1051 00:57:12.269 --> 00:57:14.670 issue with this is racist. I'm saying that some people 1052 00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:18.750 might have that as an element of their anger because 1053 00:57:18.769 --> 00:57:21.210 they're seeing the white guy pushed aside for the black man, 1054 00:57:21.750 --> 00:57:23.860 I guess. But to me, I think this is an 1055 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.960 incredible story. I don't have that kind of fandom connection 1056 00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:30.739 to Hal Jordan. I think he's always been a prick. 1057 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.440 I've always enjoyed him, though, as a hero, but he's 1058 00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.730 always had his shortcomings. So this doesn't feel necessarily out 1059 00:57:36.769 --> 00:57:39.570 of character for Hal Jordan, although some people might disagree. 1060 00:57:40.309 --> 00:57:42.610 Gage says, regarding Hal, you either die a hero or 1061 00:57:42.650 --> 00:57:44.429 live long enough to see yourself become a villain. The 1062 00:57:44.469 --> 00:57:48.650 Dark Knight already predicted this. Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. I mean, 1063 00:57:48.690 --> 00:57:51.050 how many of us have seen people we care about 1064 00:57:51.849 --> 00:57:54.110 change as they get older and go and you're like, 1065 00:57:54.190 --> 00:57:57.230 what happened to the person I knew before? What happened 1066 00:57:57.269 --> 00:58:00.809 to the person who

was so good and cared about people? And, 1067 00:58:00.989 --> 00:58:03.550 you know, wanted things to be fair in the world. 1068 00:58:03.630 --> 00:58:06.840 How have you become this, right? What can happen? How 1069 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.739 many of us have seen our parents, our family members, 1070 00:58:10.900 --> 00:58:15.860 our friends, our coworkers, our mentors, our teachers, our professors, 1071 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.719 or the older people in our society, as they get older, 1072 00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:22.389 we see them change and become something different. You know, 1073 00:58:22.409 --> 00:58:24.909 I mean, look at, for me, look at Bill Maher. 1074 00:58:24.989 --> 00:58:27.409 I mean, Bill Maher, when he was younger, I was 1075 00:58:27.469 --> 00:58:29.230 so on board with all the things he was saying. 1076 00:58:30.300 --> 00:58:32.820 And I liked the rebelliousness nature of Bill. He'd get 1077 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.340 in the face of people. He'd call a truth to power, 1078 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.420 mock everybody. But Bill Maher now is much more of 1079 00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.250 a different person. And so there are just examples all 1080 00:58:43.309 --> 00:58:46.670 over the place of people as they get older becoming 1081 00:58:46.690 --> 00:58:49.690 a completely different person than they were before. So why 1082 00:58:49.730 --> 00:58:53.190 wouldn't that happen to Hal Jordan? Especially because he's corrupted 1083 00:58:53.230 --> 00:58:54.949 by the power and he doesn't want to lose the power. 1084 00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.070 Brian says, I'll admit it. Zoe had me fooled. Oh, yeah, totally. 1085 00:58:59.329 --> 00:59:01.030 A lot of people thought she was going to be 1086 00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.010 the hero of the piece. And then we find out 1087 00:59:03.010 --> 00:59:06.619 she's essentially a space age. uh uh uh what do 1088 00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.599 you call it like a um an outer space mafia 1089 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:14.239 dawn uh as essentially everybody in that town entered into 1090 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.250 some kind of agreement with her to protect her because 1091 00:59:17.289 --> 00:59:20.590 they were benefiting from her presence in that town, almost 1092 00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.309 like a cult leader, right? Like I've given you, I've 1093 00:59:23.449 --> 00:59:26.469 saved you from this life that you had before. You 1094 00:59:26.539 --> 00:59:29.780 now owe me your allegiance and loyalty and to defend 1095 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.880 me when the police come or the authorities come to 1096 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:35.539 take down our compound or anything like that. It's essentially 1097 00:59:35.579 --> 00:59:39.019 cult leaders, David Koresh shit. That's essentially what she was doing, 1098 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.219 you know? And so it's a, it's tough to admit that, 1099 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.719 but it's true. KJ says as a veteran Green Lantern, 1100 00:59:44.780 --> 00:59:47.849 I am surprised that Hal always made sure that his, 1101 00:59:47.929 --> 00:59:51.409 that his ring, oh, that, that Hal doesn't always make 1102 00:59:51.449 --> 00:59:53.909 sure this ring is fully charged, that would be priority 1103 00:59:53.949 --> 00:59:57.289 before any battle. Sure, but you're seeing a veteran Green 1104 00:59:57.329 --> 01:00:01.429 Lantern with a level head who is thinking clearly, who 1105 01:00:02.030 --> 01:00:04.760 is not caught up and lost in his own pettiness 1106 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.420 and insecurity and frustrations. He's not a veteran Green Lantern 1107 01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:13.019 who is thinking straight. So he would make the mistake 1108 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.440 of allowing his ring to power down. He would think 1109 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.559 he has enough time to do what he needs to 1110 01:00:17.579 --> 01:00:20.679 do and then get to Get to the hotel. And remember, 1111 01:00:20.739 --> 01:00:23.800 Hal always thinks he's right because he's been proven right 1112 01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.179 so many times. So why would he question himself if 1113 01:00:27.219 --> 01:00:29.659 he thinks he can pull off this plan to get 1114 01:00:29.699 --> 01:00:32.110 to Zoe, then power up his ring and have no 1115 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.690 problem doing all the things he needs to do? So, yes, 1116 01:00:35.070 --> 01:00:38.030 in a vacuum, a veteran Green Lantern would know to 1117 01:00:38.070 --> 01:00:40.090 power up their ring first and all of that kind 1118 01:00:40.130 --> 01:00:43.530 of stuff. But this Green Lantern, Hal Jordan has always been, 1119 01:00:43.550 --> 01:00:49.929 he's always had hubris and arrogance and a belief that 1120 01:00:49.969 --> 01:00:53.449 he's right, right? And even Sinestro said to him, you 1121 01:00:53.469 --> 01:00:56.030 were blind to certain things, you were blind to certain things, 1122 01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:59.610 and so to some hubris and whatever. So there's elements 1123 01:00:59.650 --> 01:01:03.429 of that in Hal. I think that's where the issue, 1124 01:01:03.489 --> 01:01:05.010 and look, you can have a quibble with that too. 1125 01:01:05.050 --> 01:01:07.969 You can say that's a quibble. I understand that. Brian says, 1126 01:01:07.989 --> 01:01:10.369 how trying to convince Anton that he was gay. LOL. Yeah, 1127 01:01:10.409 --> 01:01:12.409 I know that was kind of funny. I thought so too. Well, 1128 01:01:12.449 --> 01:01:16.469 not that he was gay. He said that, um, it's 1129 01:01:16.550 --> 01:01:20.820 not about preference. It's about opportunity. So for him, I 1130 01:01:21.940 --> 01:01:24.880 would say he was trying to convince Anton that he's polyamorous, 1131 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.480 which means he, there is no, it doesn't matter to 1132 01:01:27.500 --> 01:01:31.820 him what gender or species, uh, you are. He is 1133 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.230 willing to have sex with you no matter what. So 1134

01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:37.869 it was a funny scene, but it wasn't, just gay. 1135 01:01:37.889 --> 01:01:40.030 There are gay illusions, obviously, because Macon is a man 1136 01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:43.820 and all of that, but he was essentially saying that 1137 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.460 it didn't matter to him. Let's see. John, leaving the 1138 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.940 ring was like Charlie leaving the everlasting gobstopper on the 1139 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.559 desk of Willy Wonka. Yes, that's a great point. That's 1140 01:01:53.599 --> 01:02:01.099 a great point. And that happens in life, right? How 1141 01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:05.420 many players we see nowadays from the NFL retire after 1142 01:02:05.460 --> 01:02:08.429 a few years or retire in their prime while they're 1143 01:02:08.449 --> 01:02:15.590 still young because everything they worked for, they achieved, they 1144 01:02:15.610 --> 01:02:20.230 got it. And when they got it, they realized it 1145 01:02:20.309 --> 01:02:24.880 wasn't what they wanted. There's a great film called Inherit 1146 01:02:24.900 --> 01:02:32.699 the Wind with Spencer Tracy, Frederick March, Darren from Bewitched, 1147 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.010 Gene Kelly, And it's based on the play, and it's 1148 01:02:36.030 --> 01:02:37.769 based on the Scopes Monkey Trial, for those of you 1149 01:02:37.809 --> 01:02:40.150 old enough to remember the Scopes Monkey Trial and study 1150 01:02:40.170 --> 01:02:43.730 that history. There's a great scene where Spencer Tracy's character, 1151 01:02:43.809 --> 01:02:45.829 who is based on an older lawyer, who was a 1152 01:02:45.829 --> 01:02:49.030 very successful lawyer back in that time, tells a story 1153 01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:51.489 about the rocking horse, that when he was a kid, 1154 01:02:51.510 --> 01:02:54.679 he used to walk by this general store, and they 1155 01:02:54.699 --> 01:02:58.360 had this rocking horse, and he wanted to ride this horse, 1156 01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:00.440 and he thought this horse was amazing, or it was 1157 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.719 a plastic horse or whatever it was. And he kept 1158 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:08.869 begging his father to let him borrow money to get 1159 01:03:08.909 --> 01:03:12.869 the horse. And eventually, the father made enough money to 1160 01:03:12.909 --> 01:03:16.889 get him the horse. And he was just so excited 1161 01:03:16.909 --> 01:03:19.489 because the horse was everything he had ever wanted. He 1162 01:03:19.670 --> 01:03:23.730 had put all these expectations on the horse. And then 1163 01:03:23.789 --> 01:03:26.389 when he got on the horse, his leg went through 1164 01:03:26.409 --> 01:03:28.360 the side of the horse because it was made from 1165 01:03:28.449 --> 01:03:32.909 shitty material. And the horse eventually fell apart. And so 1166 01:03:33.010 --> 01:03:36.650 it was a lesson to him that not everything that 1167 01:03:36.769 --> 01:03:40.320 looks like it's amazing is amazing once you get it. 1168 01:03:40.610 --> 01:03:44.159 Not everything that you ever wanted is what you wanted 1169 01:03:44.179 --> 01:03:49.940 once you get it. And that speaks to something really powerful. 1170 01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:52.440 And John realized in that moment, because the way he 1171 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.679 got the ring is not the way he wanted to 1172 01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.030 get the ring. I think John would have been happy 1173 01:03:57.050 --> 01:04:00.110 to get the ring if he had earned the ring. Remember, 1174 01:04:00.179 --> 01:04:02.840 he was upset in the first episode that Hal was 1175 01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.579 chosen and given the ring, whereas John wants to earn 1176 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:09.980 the ring. And in essence, having Leanna say to him, 1177 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:15.610 and his parents, that you need to trick Hal to 1178 01:04:15.659 --> 01:04:18.230 get the ring off of him and essentially put him 1179 01:04:18.289 --> 01:04:22.710 six feet under, that just is wrong to John. And 1180 01:04:22.789 --> 01:04:26.630 that sullies... him getting the ring. Other people wouldn't have 1181 01:04:26.650 --> 01:04:29.909 an issue with it, like probably Guy Gardner, but John 1182 01:04:29.949 --> 01:04:31.909 does because John is a man of principle and ethics 1183 01:04:31.929 --> 01:04:34.809 and morals. And to him, it matters how you get 1184 01:04:34.849 --> 01:04:37.610 something and that it matters to him to earn something. 1185 01:04:37.650 --> 01:04:38.909 And I think that as a blind spot of his 1186 01:04:38.949 --> 01:04:42.860 parents who didn't realize, like you raising a son who 1187 01:04:42.909 --> 01:04:46.760 is earning his way to becoming a Green Lantern, why 1188 01:04:46.780 --> 01:04:49.360 would you think that he would just accept it being 1189 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.769 given to him rather than him earning it? So it 1190 01:04:52.829 --> 01:04:54.329 is a bit of a blind spot in the parents 1191 01:04:54.349 --> 01:04:57.170 that they didn't see that coming. So it's very interesting. 1192 01:04:58.110 --> 01:05:00.369 Jody said, thank you, Jody. Appreciate you, bro. Thanks for 1193 01:05:00.389 --> 01:05:04.070 the super sticker, my friend. I appreciate you. 250 of 1194 01:05:04.090 --> 01:05:06.039 you joining me live right now. Thanks so much. Please 1195 01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.860 make sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven't 1196 01:05:07.900 --> 01:05:10.219 done so. Hit a like on this video. Share it 1197 01:05:10.260 --> 01:05:12.679 on your social media. If you're watching later, you can 1198 01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.139 hit that thanks button. Send in some support for the channel. 1199 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.280 Send in some monetary support. for us here on the 1200 01:05:17.300 --> 01:05:19.639 channel if you've been enjoying these live reactions and reviews 1201 01:05:20.019 --> 01:05:22.550 and please if you're watching later leave your comments uh 1202

01:05:22.610 --> 01:05:24.570 what do you think happened here what stood out to 1203 01:05:24.590 --> 01:05:25.909 you what worked for you what didn't work for you 1204 01:05:25.929 --> 01:05:28.309 what do you think the messages of this episode were 1205 01:05:28.710 --> 01:05:31.010 am I crazy with some of the stuff I'm taking 1206 01:05:31.030 --> 01:05:33.650 away from the episode I'm sure Michael and Shannon will 1207 01:05:33.670 --> 01:05:35.530 let me know I'm crazy when we finally review this 1208 01:05:35.590 --> 01:05:38.900 episode sometime this week maybe tomorrow maybe Wednesday depending on 1209 01:05:38.940 --> 01:05:42.119 our schedules um but yeah that's the so let me 1210 01:05:42.139 --> 01:05:44.199 know down there in the comment section but most of 1211 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.969 all I want you to please Subscribe to the channel 1212 01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:49.719 down below so you can help us out here. Wiley, 1213 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.119 where is yours? Sorry, my man. Let me see if 1214 01:05:52.139 --> 01:05:59.699 I've got yours here. Wiley, Wiley, Wiley. Wiley, Wiley, Wiley. 1215 01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.780 Get your adverbs here. I don't see yours, Wiley. Did 1216 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:09.019 I move it somewhere? Will you put it back in here, Wiley? 1217 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:17.070 I don't know where I put it. Um... Yeah, I 1218 01:06:17.090 --> 01:06:19.010 don't know where I put it, but sorry, my friend. 1219 01:06:19.650 --> 01:06:24.940 I don't know where it is. Did I delete it 1220 01:06:24.980 --> 01:06:27.840 by accident, hitting buttons? I can do that sometimes. I'm 1221 01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:32.679 a bit of a buffoon. Let me see. Yeah, I 1222 01:06:32.699 --> 01:06:34.489 don't know why I can't see it. Oh, wait, maybe 1223 01:06:34.510 --> 01:06:36.510 I can go all the way back to the beginning. No, 1224 01:06:36.550 --> 01:06:41.769 it's not here. Did you accidentally take it down? Why? 1225 01:06:41.809 --> 01:06:43.809 Because it's not even in the chat, so I don't know. 1226 01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.940 Just put your question in the chat, bro. Don't worry 1227 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:53.269 about it. I don't... Or maybe... No, I don't think 1228 01:06:53.329 --> 01:06:55.710 it comes through this way either. I don't know what 1229 01:06:55.730 --> 01:06:59.889 happened there, bro. My apologies, man. It's a good question. 1230 01:06:59.929 --> 01:07:01.860 What language do you think they were speaking? I really 1231 01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.440 don't know. Let's see if we can look it up 1232 01:07:05.460 --> 01:07:35.579 real quick. What language was the Manhunter speaking? I don't know. 1233 01:07:35.619 --> 01:07:38.320 It doesn't say. It doesn't say. So I don't know 1234 01:07:38.340 --> 01:07:43.219 what language they'd be speaking. Just type in Manhunter language. 1235 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:56.369 See if something comes up here. No. Someone says, we 1236 01:07:56.409 --> 01:08:04.639 speak

in Manhunter language now. Yeah, I mean, it's very 1237 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:12.139 possible that Noah is a Manhunter. Maybe Noah is the Manhunter. 1238 01:08:12.219 --> 01:08:15.780 I don't know. It's very, very possible. So that could 1239 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.189 be an element of this down here. I scrolled up 1240 01:08:19.250 --> 01:08:25.020 in the chat and it's there. Okay, here it is. Man, 1241 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:26.300 what a great episode. John has become one of my 1242 01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:29.810 favorite on-screen heroes. Great bot IVR needle drop right. This 1243 01:08:29.869 --> 01:08:32.130 is the power of DC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, 1244 01:08:32.729 --> 01:08:34.890 there were a couple of good songs they played in 1245 01:08:34.949 --> 01:08:38.369 this episode I thought were great. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah, 1246 01:08:38.449 --> 01:08:40.130 you guys can see it. I don't know what I 1247 01:08:40.170 --> 01:08:43.329 did with it. I don't know if I accidentally hit it, 1248 01:08:43.750 --> 01:08:47.939 but I can't see Wiley's super chat. So since I 1249 01:08:47.979 --> 01:08:51.239 control that on my end, I must have hit some 1250 01:08:51.300 --> 01:08:56.159 button in an excited moment. Karen says that Heavy Spoilers 1251 01:08:56.189 --> 01:08:57.829 said they were speaking a mix of different languages. Well, 1252 01:08:57.869 --> 01:08:59.569 if Heavy Spoilers said it, I believe it because Heavy 1253 01:08:59.590 --> 01:09:01.960 is great on he's been great on breaking down. I 1254 01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:03.359 don't know if you guys saw last week. So he 1255 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:07.390 did one earlier this or last week, earlier this week, rather, uh, 1256 01:09:07.409 --> 01:09:09.510 this past week. And, uh, I watched that one. It 1257 01:09:09.550 --> 01:09:13.329 was like 13 minutes breaking down the trailer for episode five, 1258 01:09:13.670 --> 01:09:16.500 this episode we got tonight. and I don't know how 1259 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:17.979 much of his stuff came true, but it was a 1260 01:09:18.020 --> 01:09:20.760 really engaging thing. So if he says that, that's true. 1261 01:09:20.779 --> 01:09:22.199 So Andrew says, what happens to the ring now? It's 1262 01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.939 a great question. I think Leanna takes the ring, and 1263 01:09:24.979 --> 01:09:29.109 I think the Guardians eventually choose Guy Gardner. I don't 1264 01:09:29.170 --> 01:09:31.189 know how much of them choose, and maybe they choose 1265 01:09:31.229 --> 01:09:33.890 Guy Gardner because he's a prick, and they know he's 1266 01:09:33.909 --> 01:09:36.470 going to do, like he's even a worse prick than Hal, 1267 01:09:37.109 --> 01:09:40.159 and that he's going to not have any hangups like, 1268 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.479 john has they know that how they know that a 1269 01:09:43.539 --> 01:09:45.520 guy is not someone who's caught up in the moral 1270 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:48.850 dilemmas of life or doing the right or wrong thing 1271 01:09:48.869 --> 01:09:51.329 uh he's going to be happy to have the ring 1272 01:09:51.670 --> 01:09:54.069 they know he's a bit of a jerk off so 1273 01:09:54.329 --> 01:09:56.970 he'll he's an easy and he's not that smart so 1274 01:09:56.989 --> 01:09:58.810 he's not going to question the guardians the way how 1275 01:09:58.869 --> 01:10:01.760 does or the way uh the way john does and 1276 01:10:01.770 --> 01:10:04.659 so i think that's probably why they choose him uh 1277 01:10:04.779 --> 01:10:09.390 in this in the situation um So you think Hal 1278 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.489 doesn't get it back in the series? Yeah, eventually. Eventually, 1279 01:10:12.510 --> 01:10:14.989 I think he will. I don't think Hal gets the 1280 01:10:15.029 --> 01:10:21.329 ring back. No. I think Hal is... I think once 1281 01:10:21.369 --> 01:10:23.409 Hal gets away from the ring and heals up, I 1282 01:10:23.449 --> 01:10:25.920 wonder if he stays with Carrie. We see in the 1283 01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:29.060 trailer for next episode, she says that he came back 1284 01:10:29.140 --> 01:10:32.199 for her, but it is curious that he's still wearing 1285 01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:35.739 the same outfit he wore in 2016. That's really curious. 1286 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.300 The same jacket. Yes. So where's Hal been over these 1287 01:10:39.340 --> 01:10:41.640 last 10 years? Does Hal go on this journey on 1288 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.880 his own? Does he meet Carol Ferris? What goes on 1289 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.220 with Hal during this time of the 10 years? I 1290 01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:51.640 don't know. It's a good question, right? Where does he go? 1291 01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.380 Where does John go? Does John go back to being 1292 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:55.899 an architect? Is that why he grows that little goatee 1293 01:10:55.979 --> 01:10:58.079 out to show off that he's an artist? I don't know. 1294 01:10:58.100 --> 01:11:00.079 There's a lot of questions when you look at this stuff. 1295 01:11:00.100 --> 01:11:03.779 So I'd be interested to see. And Wiley says, I 1296 01:11:03.819 --> 01:11:05.739 love how John left the ring. I'm like John, I 1297 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.180 like to earn things. Yeah, thanks for that wooden horse story, Roka. 1298 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.010 You really get to see this lesson. Yeah, it's true. 1299 01:11:11.020 --> 01:11:13.770 I mean, I don't know that, I think all of 1300 01:11:13.810 --> 01:11:16.470 you have experienced this. I think we all experienced this. 1301 01:11:16.989 --> 01:11:20.229 That we, if we're like, if I get that one thing, 1302 01:11:20.250 --> 01:11:22.850 I know my life will be happy. I'll have the 1303 01:11:22.909 --> 01:11:25.460 greatest life if I could just have this one thing. 1304 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:28.720 But the truth is, once you get that one thing, 1305 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.909 you realize that it wasn't what you wanted. And it 1306

01:11:32.970 --> 01:11:35.390 isn't with everything. I think, I just think all of 1307 01:11:35.449 --> 01:11:38.189 us have had, it's a very universal experience. If I 1308 01:11:38.229 --> 01:11:40.659 can just get a date with that girl, I'm going 1309 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.180 to have a great time or date with that guy 1310 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:46.300 or however, you know, however you identify, I could be happy. 1311 01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:48.859 I could see my whole world in that person. Right. 1312 01:11:49.260 --> 01:11:51.340 And then you go out with that person and they're not, 1313 01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.140 they're not who you thought they were going to be. Right. 1314 01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:56.100 And so you built it up in your mind and 1315 01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:57.739 you get, it's like, Oh, it's not, it's not what 1316 01:11:57.779 --> 01:12:00.930 I thought it was going to be. You know, When 1317 01:12:00.970 --> 01:12:04.590 I won that Schmodown title from Dan, the elation of 1318 01:12:04.670 --> 01:12:08.930 that moment was amazing. I was so happy and I'd 1319 01:12:08.989 --> 01:12:11.810 worked for it. But then when I went back and 1320 01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:16.729 sat down by myself with the title, hardly anyone came 1321 01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:21.020 by from the players to say congratulations or whatever or 1322 01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.699 talk to me about it. They just kind of did 1323 01:12:23.739 --> 01:12:25.720 their thing. And then I sat there and I was like, wow, 1324 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.699 I spent all this time trying to get this thing. 1325 01:12:28.890 --> 01:12:30.609 Was it that big of a deal? And it was, 1326 01:12:31.130 --> 01:12:33.189 but it didn't bring me what I thought it was 1327 01:12:33.210 --> 01:12:34.630 going to bring me when I won it, you know, 1328 01:12:34.689 --> 01:12:37.029 and I was so committed to winning that thing. So 1329 01:12:37.050 --> 01:12:38.970 it was a lesson learned. It's always going to, you're 1330 01:12:38.989 --> 01:12:41.300 going to learn these lessons over and over again in life. Not, 1331 01:12:41.939 --> 01:12:44.359 not every, you get that one, you get that car. 1332 01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:46.680 You're like, if I get this car, I'll be so high. 1333 01:12:46.699 --> 01:12:49.020 1334 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:54.119 1335 01:12:54.140 --> 01:12:57.770 If 1336 01:12:57.779 --> 01:13:00.989 I start this YouTube channel, if I start this podcast, 1337 01:13:01.229 --> 01:13:03.529 you just never know, right? You think these are the things. 1338 01:13:03.569 --> 01:13:06.029 But that's how human beings are. We live in hope. 1339 01:13:06.149 --> 01:13:08.970 We live in expectation. And there's nothing wrong with that. 1340 01:13:09.710 --> 01:13:11.850 But in the end, sometimes the things you want the 1341 01:13:11.909 --> 01:13:13.229 most or the things you think that are going to 1342 01:13:13.250 --> 01:13:17.189 bring you happiness don't. And that's the hard truth of 1343 01:13:17.229 --> 01:13:21.739 life sometimes. Yeah, of course, the anticipation is drug for 1344 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.979 the goal. Absolutely, absolutely. Uh, well, this is one thing 1345 01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:26.590 I crave is a relationship. The moment I get in, 1346 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:28.579 I get a little into the water. I want to 1347 01:13:28.619 --> 01:13:33.819 retreat instantly. It's hard and difficult feeling. Oh, oh yeah, sure. Oh, sure, man. 1348 01:13:33.859 --> 01:13:38.260 That's listen, I am not professionally qualified to analyze that situation, brother. 1349 01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:41.039 That is for a therapist to talk to you about. Uh, 1350 01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:43.270 but so many of us are, are like kind of 1351 01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:47.729 messed up, um, uh, for so many reasons when we 1352 01:13:47.770 --> 01:13:51.729 get into relationships or when we, navigate relationships. All of 1353 01:13:51.829 --> 01:13:54.979 us have our own weirdness. That's why I love Punch 1354 01:13:54.989 --> 01:13:57.149 Drunk Love and I love Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless 1355 01:13:57.189 --> 01:13:59.560 Mind because those are two films that kind of broke 1356 01:14:00.500 --> 01:14:04.800 that romantic comedy nonsense that we were fed for decades 1357 01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:10.739 since the 80s about these expectations of what relationships are 1358 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.239 supposed to be like. And some people put those expectations 1359 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.899 on the people they were dating or seeing and that 1360 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.079 ended up blowing up in their faces. I certainly had 1361 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:22.159 that issue in my twenties. Like, why aren't you acting 1362 01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:24.359 like the people I see in the movies? Why aren't 1363 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.229 we happy? Like the people we, I see in the movies, 1364 01:14:27.270 --> 01:14:31.210 you know, and it's because there's deeper stuff going on 1365 01:14:31.949 --> 01:14:36.210 within you that you're not addressing. And that's, that's life, 1366 01:14:36.529 --> 01:14:39.729 you know, so relationships can expose your shortcomings as well 1367 01:14:39.770 --> 01:14:43.569 as your, your positives of who you are as a person. So, 1368 01:14:44.449 --> 01:14:46.979 you know, getting into a relationship can be difficult. Coming 1369 01:14:47.020 --> 01:14:49.060 out of a relationship can be difficult. Once you're in 1370 01:14:49.100 --> 01:14:52.020 the relationship, these things that you didn't think about come 1371 01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:54.699 popping up. And so you have to deal with them 1372 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.329 and you should deal with them, you know, and take 1373 01:14:57.350 --> 01:14:59.090 it from me as someone who didn't deal with them 1374 01:14:59.149 --> 01:15:01.670 until much later in life. Cause I didn't think I 1375 01:15:01.689 -->

01:15:03.409 had anything wrong with me. I thought they were all 1376 01:15:03.430 --> 01:15:08.010 the problem. Uh, you, if you're consistently failing in relationships, 1377 01:15:08.529 --> 01:15:10.680 the problem is not them. It doesn't mean that they 1378 01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.319 don't do stuff wrong. Sure. But the problem is you. 1379 01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:15.479 And I don't mean that you're a bad person. It 1380 01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:18.539 means that you're selecting people who are maybe aren't the 1381 01:15:18.579 --> 01:15:23.020 best for you or you're indulging in behavior that is 1382 01:15:23.060 --> 01:15:26.180 self-destructive that you're not aware is self-destructive. And so those 1383 01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.739 are the things that therapy helps you like unpack and 1384 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.649 figure out. And so, you know, that's the thing, like 1385 01:15:31.689 --> 01:15:37.210 even John getting with, uh, Zoe, like this is another 1386 01:15:37.250 --> 01:15:39.229 man's wife, but he still was willing to sleep with 1387 01:15:39.250 --> 01:15:42.149 her twice, you know, and then find out she's a 1388 01:15:42.189 --> 01:15:44.439 man hunter and not tell John, not tell Hal about it. 1389 01:15:45.029 --> 01:15:46.970 And then eventually he takes her out. Right. And she 1390 01:15:47.010 --> 01:15:49.630 lets herself die. Because again, I think she could have 1391 01:15:49.649 --> 01:15:51.430 stopped the bullet. I think she could have used her 1392 01:15:51.470 --> 01:15:56.489 power to quickly evade the bullet. There's no way an 1393 01:15:56.649 --> 01:15:59.989 alien who sees the bullet coming with her power, a 1394 01:16:00.050 --> 01:16:03.390 guardian who has fought off probably all kinds of outer 1395 01:16:03.430 --> 01:16:07.210 space weapon and decks and weapons and tech would be 1396 01:16:07.289 --> 01:16:09.899 taken down by a bullet that she sees coming, by 1397 01:16:09.909 --> 01:16:12.439 the way. So I just think there's something more to 1398 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:16.560 that down the road. But even he was willing to 1399 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.359 play with fire in the situation. And it burnt him 1400 01:16:19.420 --> 01:16:23.640 to a degree. Fred says, remember the movie, The Candidate? Yes. 1401 01:16:23.699 --> 01:16:26.239 After Robert Redford won his election, he asked his campaign manager, 1402 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:29.989 what next? Yes, exactly. The 70s was full of stuff 1403 01:16:30.010 --> 01:16:33.189 like that. Remember the end of The Graduate? When Dustin 1404 01:16:33.229 --> 01:16:37.119 Hoffman gets with Catherine, you know, gets with Catherine, God, 1405 01:16:38.109 --> 01:16:42.239 what's her last name? I forget Catherine's last name, the 1406 01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.520 actress's last name. Catherine Ross. When he gets with Catherine Ross... 1407 01:16:45.970 --> 01:16:48.789 and takes her away from that dude. And he thinks he's, 1408 01:16:48.930 --> 01:16:51.489

you know, he's the hero. He saves her. They jump 1409 01:16:51.569 --> 01:16:56.010 on the bus. Then Mike Nichols lets the camera linger 1410 01:16:56.109 --> 01:16:59.029 on them as they sit on the bus until the 1411 01:16:59.109 --> 01:17:01.569 euphoria of what they'd done wears off. And they're like, 1412 01:17:02.430 --> 01:17:07.289 oh shit, what now? Right, because the goal was achieved, 1413 01:17:07.350 --> 01:17:10.520 but you didn't think past the goal. And neither of 1414 01:17:10.569 --> 01:17:15.020 them are actually right for each other. The one positive 1415 01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.010 is that Benjamin gets a little bit of a stroke 1416 01:17:18.050 --> 01:17:22.170 that he was able to take her away from someone else. Uh, 1417 01:17:22.289 --> 01:17:24.130 and she gets what gets out of what would have 1418 01:17:24.149 --> 01:17:27.329 been probably a loveless waspish marriage that she would have 1419 01:17:27.350 --> 01:17:31.109 never been happy with, with the judgmental wealthy elite, you know? 1420 01:17:31.260 --> 01:17:34.479 So the idea of what now, what next is a 1421 01:17:34.539 --> 01:17:39.699 very universal thing in a lot of our lives. Uh, Oh, 1422 01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:42.260 what's the sky? Uh, I'm maybe the best show on 1423 01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:45.409 TV right now. Wow. I won't say that because I'm 1424 01:17:45.510 --> 01:17:50.109 loving lioness season three. Uh, I think this, uh, season 1425 01:17:50.170 --> 01:17:53.130 is the best season so far. We finished all six episodes. 1426 01:17:53.149 --> 01:17:55.529 There's two more to go. The new one dropped tonight. 1427 01:17:55.569 --> 01:17:59.039 We'll watch that tomorrow. Probably lady outlaw. But like, I 1428 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.319 think lioness is probably at the top of my list 1429 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.859 right now, but lanterns is definitely in the top three 1430 01:18:04.699 --> 01:18:12.350 of the shows I'm watching right now. Um, it's incredible. Um, 1431 01:18:13.390 --> 01:18:15.550 I like the new Reacher as well. I think this 1432 01:18:15.609 --> 01:18:19.189 is better than Reacher, but I like the new Reacher 1433 01:18:19.229 --> 01:18:21.060 show that's on. But yeah, definitely it's one of the 1434 01:18:21.100 --> 01:18:24.600 best shows on TV right now. Absolutely. Irregardless of the 1435 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.539 anger that some people have about how Hal Jordan is 1436 01:18:27.579 --> 01:18:31.300 being treated. David says some college grads have the what's 1437 01:18:31.340 --> 01:18:34.100 next moment. I didn't have a real plan. Yeah, exactly. 1438 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:36.859 You and me both, bro. I didn't graduate college my 1439 01:18:36.899 --> 01:18:39.670 first trip around. I essentially failed out of college my 1440 01:18:39.710 --> 01:18:43.420 first trip around. I mean, I quit college, but I 1441 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.050 think I had a grade point average of 1.1 because 1442 01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:48.810

I just kind of like tanked. I didn't go to classes. 1443 01:18:48.869 --> 01:18:50.869 I just i got caught i was joined i've joined 1444 01:18:50.890 --> 01:18:53.109 a fraternity which was the dumbest thing i ever fucking 1445 01:18:53.140 --> 01:18:56.399 did just a horrible horrible experience seeing some of the 1446 01:18:56.460 --> 01:19:00.319 worst uh behaviors i would ever want to see between 1447 01:19:00.420 --> 01:19:02.819 men and women in or not men i guess not 1448 01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.420 women i guess but like teenagers or people in their 1449 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:11.409 late teens like 19 18 20 Um, and seeing some 1450 01:19:11.430 --> 01:19:13.550 of the, and hearing some of the most like horrific 1451 01:19:13.609 --> 01:19:16.880 shit and racist shit. It just was the worst experience 1452 01:19:16.909 --> 01:19:19.380 possible to be part of that fraternity and to be 1453 01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.199 on that campus. Uh, and that's why I eventually joined 1454 01:19:23.220 --> 01:19:25.760 the military and left and went and did my own thing. And, 1455 01:19:26.619 --> 01:19:28.239 but I came, when I came back to school at 1456 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.880 Florida state, I was a different person because I had 1457 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:33.779 grown up, I'd matured, I'd aged. And I wanted to 1458 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:35.659 go back to college and I got my degree and 1459 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:37.500 I got a, and I was a pretty you know, 1460 01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:39.960 my grade average was very high at Florida state. They 1461 01:19:39.979 --> 01:19:42.159 had to combine the stuff from my previous college. So 1462 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.119 my grade point average didn't a hundred percent end up 1463 01:19:45.140 --> 01:19:48.350 being great cumulative, but it was pretty. Cause I went 1464 01:19:48.390 --> 01:19:51.550 back to community college and got my AA degree there. 1465 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.489 And I, I knocked that shit out of the park 1466 01:19:53.930 --> 01:19:55.890 and then went to Florida state. And I think I 1467 01:19:55.909 --> 01:19:59.090 graduated with three, six, three, seven G points, maybe three, 1468 01:19:59.130 --> 01:20:00.909 eight G point GPA. I don't remember, but it was 1469 01:20:00.930 --> 01:20:03.189 very high. But when they factored in the stuff from 1470 01:20:03.210 --> 01:20:05.930 my previous college, it did, it kind of lowered it. So, but, 1471 01:20:07.069 --> 01:20:09.069 when I went back to college, I knew what I wanted. 1472 01:20:09.149 --> 01:20:10.649 I knew what I wanted to get out of it. 1473 01:20:10.750 --> 01:20:13.729 And so it's a better experience when you know what 1474 01:20:13.789 --> 01:20:17.300 you want. And it's okay to not know what you 1475 01:20:17.340 --> 01:20:20.039 want as well. And when you realize that this is 1476 01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:22.100 not what you want to go on your own journey 1477 01:20:22.539 --> 01:20:24.979 until it's ready, until you're ready to come back and 1478 01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:27.720 get what you want. There's nothing wrong with that. You know, 1479 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.649 I came back to school seven years later and just 1480 01:20:30.729 --> 01:20:32.609 fucking killed it. I loved it. I met all, I 1481 01:20:32.630 --> 01:20:34.210 met so many of my great friends that are still 1482 01:20:34.250 --> 01:20:37.029 my friends today. Shannon, Michael, A lot of our crew 1483 01:20:37.069 --> 01:20:39.649 from Florida State, we're all still friends today. I had 1484 01:20:39.689 --> 01:20:41.609 a great experience. I went to London and studied for 1485 01:20:41.670 --> 01:20:44.590 six months in London, which was an incredible experience. So, 1486 01:20:45.430 --> 01:20:48.829 so much of my years at Florida State were arguably 1487 01:20:48.850 --> 01:20:51.409 the best years of my life. I'm pretty happy now, obviously, 1488 01:20:51.430 --> 01:20:53.640 with the Lady Outlaw and the life we've built. But 1489 01:20:53.649 --> 01:20:57.100 I mean, the experiences of that time were great. Why? 1490 01:20:57.140 --> 01:20:58.939 Because I was ready to be at college. I was 1491 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.359 ready to experience it, enjoy it, and have fun with it. 1492 01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.159 Whereas my first trip was just hell on earth for 1493 01:21:05.180 --> 01:21:08.020 so many reasons. All right. Is there anything more we 1494 01:21:08.060 --> 01:21:10.439 need to talk about? Any other Streamlabs or Super Chats 1495 01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:14.859 that came through that I see? No, nothing from Fred 1496 01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.399 or anybody else. Okay, cool. I just wanted to make 1497 01:21:16.420 --> 01:21:18.729 sure before we wrap it up. All right. So there 1498 01:21:18.739 --> 01:21:20.789 we go. I think this is a great episode of 1499 01:21:20.850 --> 01:21:23.189 Television Lights Out. Shout out to the director, the writer, 1500 01:21:23.229 --> 01:21:26.350 all the actors. I think what we built up to 1501 01:21:26.550 --> 01:21:29.430 from the first four episodes allowed us to sit back 1502 01:21:29.489 --> 01:21:34.329 and enjoy all the places that this episode went. There's 1503 01:21:34.489 --> 01:21:38.569 clearly ramifications. I mean, so many people died. How much 1504 01:21:38.609 --> 01:21:41.760 of this is going to be about, did John and 1505 01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:44.600 Hal go to prison? Because we see John in prison. 1506 01:21:44.659 --> 01:21:46.800 So are they in prison from what happened in the town? 1507 01:21:47.659 --> 01:21:49.890 I don't know. There's questions to be asked here. Excuse me, 1508 01:21:49.899 --> 01:21:52.340 questions to be asked here. What happens to both of 1509 01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.189 them after what happened in the town and the aftermath 1510 01:21:55.229 --> 01:21:57.630 of the town? Is this all brushed away from, because 1511 01:21:57.810 --> 01:22:01.350 as blamed on a Manhunter, what

is the reaction of 1512 01:22:01.489 --> 01:22:03.859 other people to what happened in this town? So there's 1513 01:22:03.899 --> 01:22:05.720 a lot of questions that we're going to have to 1514 01:22:05.739 --> 01:22:09.300 have answered that have happened over the last 10 years 1515 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:15.359 with John and Hal separately, with Carrie separately, with the 1516 01:22:15.420 --> 01:22:19.300 town separately, and overall its effect on the DC universe. 1517 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:20.720 I'll be curious to see what we're going to get 1518 01:22:21.220 --> 01:22:25.060 in the next three episodes. All right, thank you all 1519 01:22:25.100 --> 01:22:27.390 so much for joining me live tonight. My apologies for 1520 01:22:27.430 --> 01:22:30.569 leaving that picture up for so long while I talked 1521 01:22:30.649 --> 01:22:33.060 about it. What was going on? But as I said, 1522 01:22:33.090 --> 01:22:35.590 I'm a one man show. Sometimes I make little mistakes, 1523 01:22:35.729 --> 01:22:38.470 just like Leanna. I make little mistakes. Oh, and Leanna 1524 01:22:38.510 --> 01:22:41.369 is totally. We're going to find out there's a lot 1525 01:22:41.390 --> 01:22:43.409 of dirty shit with Leanna in the next three episodes. 1526 01:22:43.590 --> 01:22:45.029 I think we're just going to find out that she's 1527 01:22:45.409 --> 01:22:48.909 there's something nefarious that she's done. There's something she's trying 1528 01:22:48.930 --> 01:22:53.359 to hide because the ultimate people in power are the guardians. Right. 1529 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.960 And so this show is very much about exposing the 1530 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.449 corruption of people in higher power. And I think eventually 1531 01:23:00.489 --> 01:23:03.310 the Guardians are going to have to get brought to heel. 1532 01:23:04.180 --> 01:23:06.779 We're going to find out what Leanna's been doing, if 1533 01:23:06.819 --> 01:23:09.899 she's actually doing Guardian business or her own business. Because 1534 01:23:09.939 --> 01:23:12.960 remember what Hal said in the first episode, the Guardians 1535 01:23:13.020 --> 01:23:16.399 look at Earth, Sector 2814, I think it is, as 1536 01:23:16.460 --> 01:23:19.229 the backwater of the universe. So how many of the 1537 01:23:19.270 --> 01:23:22.270 other Guardians are really paying attention to what's going on 1538 01:23:22.649 --> 01:23:26.270 in the backwater of the universe? Probably not that many. 1539 01:23:26.449 --> 01:23:29.819 So Leanna is probably getting to run... roam free and 1540 01:23:29.859 --> 01:23:32.319 do what she wants to do here. So what is 1541 01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:34.750 this all about? And how come John can only communicate 1542 01:23:34.770 --> 01:23:37.970 with Leanna through his parents? What is that all about? 1543 01:23:38.010 --> 01:23:41.289 Why can't John contact her directly? That's a very interesting 1544 01:23:41.329 --> 01:23:43.329 thing as well. So there's much more to find out 1545

01:23:43.890 --> 01:23:47.199 about Leanna as we go along. And Noah, of course. 1546 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.680 I think that Noah situation. And yeah, Eddie, good point. 1547 01:23:51.220 --> 01:23:55.539 There's no way that Jason Ritter took this job just 1548 01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.100 to have three or four scenes in the first five episodes. 1549 01:23:58.529 --> 01:24:01.449 There's absolutely going to be more with him throughout the 1550 01:24:01.510 --> 01:24:04.489 next three episodes because it'll be about them raising Noah. 1551 01:24:05.329 --> 01:24:07.130 And what do they know about Noah? What does Noah 1552 01:24:07.149 --> 01:24:09.649 know about himself? And is Noah a Manhunter? So there's 1553 01:24:09.770 --> 01:24:11.829 all kinds of questions with Noah that we're going to 1554 01:24:11.869 --> 01:24:13.600 find out here as we go along. So it'll be 1555 01:24:13.609 --> 01:24:16.619 interesting to see. Yeah, Manhunters can't have kids, but remember 1556 01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.920 she dropped that blood in John and essentially redid his 1557 01:24:19.939 --> 01:24:24.479 whole skin. So did their son die and she brought 1558 01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:27.340 their son back to life in some way? I don't know. 1559 01:24:27.539 --> 01:24:31.520 So there's questions to be asked about her connection with Noah. 1560 01:24:31.770 --> 01:24:33.569 You know, as I said, it's like Star Trek II. 1561 01:24:33.609 --> 01:24:36.689 She put her consciousness inside Noah to a degree by 1562 01:24:36.770 --> 01:24:39.670 grooming him. What is it that he knows? So we'll see. 1563 01:24:39.689 --> 01:24:42.229 We'll find out in the next few episodes for sure. 1564 01:24:42.250 --> 01:24:44.369 All right, again, thanks so much for joining me. Appreciate 1565 01:24:44.390 --> 01:24:46.630 y'all madly. Please make sure you hit a like on 1566 01:24:46.649 --> 01:24:50.229 this video. Hit subscribe here. Follow me at TheRodkaSays on 1567 01:24:50.289 --> 01:24:52.149 all my social media as well. And if you're watching 1568 01:24:52.170 --> 01:24:54.390 this later, hit that thanks button if you want to 1569 01:24:54.470 --> 01:24:58.550 send in some support or subscribe. And leave a comment 1570 01:24:58.569 --> 01:25:00.489 down below on all the things I talked about here 1571 01:25:00.909 --> 01:25:03.310 and all the questions people asked throughout the stream. Love 1572 01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:05.810 to get your thoughts. Appreciate you all madly. Look for 1573 01:25:05.850 --> 01:25:08.359 my spoiler review with the Geek Buddies coming up sometime 1574 01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:12.119 this week, either tomorrow or probably Wednesday. And we'll break 1575 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:15.600 it down even more. And maybe I'll go live tomorrow 1576 01:25:15.619 --> 01:25:18.819 night with an episode of a show or I won't. 1577 01:25:18.859 --> 01:25:20.979 We'll see. But, of course, I'll be on Christian's show tomorrow. 1578 01:25:21.590 --> 01:25:23.670 at 9 a.m., so join me for that as well. 1579 01:25:23.770 --> 01:25:25.250 And the Geek Buddies, as I said, the hot mic 1580 01:25:25.310 --> 01:25:29.630 possibly coming back this week. And spill the tequila on 1581 01:25:29.649 --> 01:25:31.789 Tuesday night. Winston and I are certainly going to have 1582 01:25:31.810 --> 01:25:33.789 a lot to talk about with the Dallas Cowboys losing 1583 01:25:34.270 --> 01:25:37.229 and my Washington Commanders losing. Although I would say us 1584 01:25:37.310 --> 01:25:40.260 losing on the road to Philadelphia by only two points 1585 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.840 because we had a two-point conversion and stuff is much 1586 01:25:42.899 --> 01:25:46.159 more respectable than losing to the Giants as the Cowboys 1587 01:25:46.220 --> 01:25:48.899 just did, who are a much inferior team. So, All right, 1588 01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:50.539 take care of yourselves. Be well, have a great night, 1589 01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:52.899 and I'll talk to you next time with another brand 1590 01:25:52.970 --> 01:25:55.229 new spoiler review episode. I'm doing them every week here 1591 01:25:55.670 --> 01:25:58.710 on Sunday nights for Lanterns. Take care until then. Have 1592 01:25:58.729 --> 01:25:59.609 a great night, everybody.