LANTERNS Ep 1x5 Spoiler Review, Manhunter, Hal vs John Stewart, Antaan, Easters Eggs | DC

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There we go what's up everybody welcome to this a
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live reaction and spoiler review of lanterns episode five what
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an episode we got tonight sorry my ocd is kicking
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and i want to make sure this is what episode
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we got tonight here uh from hbo max from chris
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mundy from uh uh tom king and from um Damon Lindelof, man.
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This is the episode we were building to, lights out.
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This is the one we've been like slowly building through
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these four episodes. And oh my God, did this episode deliver.
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So many exciting and awesome things to talk about in
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this episode. A couple of quibbles. So I will bring
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those up as we go along for sure. But overall,
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what an impactful and powerful episode that I think paid
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off what is essentially the first half of the season
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because by the time this episode is over, it's clear
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that we're moving to another timeline. Again, this is a spoiler, spoiler, spoiler,
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spoiler conversation. If you haven't seen the episode or you're
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only halfway through or you're worried about anything getting spoiled
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for you, then you should stop now and go and
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watch the episode. Come on back and watch it later.
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Or if you watch the episode or don't care, then
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stick around because we're going to be breaking things down
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here tonight. on this episode. There's so much to talk
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about for sure. Everything that happened with Hal and John,
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that came to a head in a brutal, brutal fight
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in the hotel room. Everything with the Manhunter came to
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a head tonight as well. That whole mystery of the Manhunter.
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Was it satisfying? I want to hear from you guys.
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Did you feel that the Manhunter storyline kind of wrapped
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up and ended in a way that was satisfying for you?
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Because I will say this, that's where I have a
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couple of quibbles. in terms of the logic and what
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happened with this character of the Manhunter here by the end.
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But we see, for me, overall, I'll say this from
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the beginning, this episode, to me, is a conversation about
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what happens when you allow yourself to be manipulated by
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people in power, when you surrender your own free will
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to people of power because you're getting something in exchange
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for what it means to enter into these bargains with
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people instead of facing the consequences of your actions and
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the collateral damage that can come about when you willingly
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concede or give up or participate in a situation. So
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there's so much here. that went down, and the pursuit
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of power. What does the pursuit of power do to
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you if all you have is the singular pursuit of power?
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And I think that ring and what happens with the
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ring in this episode, I've seen already people comparing it to,
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you know, Lord of the Rings and what happens there
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with Frodo and Bilbo, sorry, Frodo and Gollum. with the
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ring and the way they battle for the ring, what
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the ring does, what it symbolizes. And Jon Stewart, who
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has been the person who seems to be singularly created
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to get this thing, by the end of the episode,
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makes a shocking decision that kind of explains why a
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certain somebody has the ring that we've seen already in
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a certain movie before. Last year. So all kinds of
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things happened here in this episode. And there was a
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lot of bloodshed, a lot of brutality. I mean, this
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is what Lindelof and Mundy can do when they work
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together is show you the payment of what this is
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all about. This is a far cry from James Gunn's Superman.
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What you see in this episode, right? And so we
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talk about melding the universes. People are like, how can
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that Batman fit into the DC universe? Well, you look
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at the brutality and bloodshed and body parts and blood
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and innocent lives that are murdered, murdered in this episode tonight.
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And you tell me how that is any different from
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what we have in Matt Reeves' Batman. to me, the
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darkness is the darkness. And if you go in certain directions,
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no matter how much cute little conversations you have about
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making sure you stay black in terms of your skin
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instead of being turned white, which I think is a
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little subtext that went on there in that moment as well,
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is these things, these conversations that I think are important
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for people to have. Now, listen, I never thought you
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could mirror these two universes, right? Or blend these two universes.
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But if you've got an a Lantern series that is
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as brutal as this, tell me what separates this from
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Matt Reeves' Batman. Almost nothing. And so to me, I'm
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a little more kind of starting to see the possibility
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of these universes coming together down the road. Not saying
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it will happen, but I am much more in the
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camp of believing it will happen now than I have
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ever been before because this is canon this is james
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gunn's dcu what's going on in this series now you
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guys know i don't give james gunn too much credit
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about what's going on in this series because this is
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very much a damon lindelof um uh chris mundy uh
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and and tom king approach to things and i know
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gunn and king proposed the initial story but what you're
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seeing the way it's being carried out is in a
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much more darker and brutal fashion even with occasional moments
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of humor and It's still pretty, pretty dark. And so
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I'm just very impressed at what happened tonight. Again, with
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a couple of quibbles, but overall just blown away by
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what we got tonight in this episode. I just want
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to remind you all that the Streamlabs and Super Chats
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are open if you want to send some questions, thoughts,
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and comments as we go along. Because I want to
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hear from you what you thought of this episode, what
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you think is going on here. Did you catch any
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Easter eggs or any of that stuff? Let me know
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as we go along here. Send it in questions, thoughts,
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and comments. It's pinned in the chat. It's in the
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description of the video as well. So, all right, let's
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get into the first part of this. And we got
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to see the two sides of Carrie Kane in this episode.
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We got her backstory. We opened the episode with that.
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This was nine years ago, apparently. She is running from Gotham.
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She's in a stolen car. She's changed the plates. But
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she didn't change cars. And she ends up at this
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diner after the car breaks down. She pushes the car
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to the diner, which, of course, speaks to the strength
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of Carrie Kane that she can push a car down
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the road, which is not an easy thing to do.
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She gets this diner, gets into the diner, and these
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two guys who apparently have been pursuing her show up.
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The guy in the subtitles is named, was it Captain something?
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Hold on a second. Let me bring up my thing here.
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I know I downloaded it. Here it is. Let me
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bring it up so I don't lose anything. What's the
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guy's name here? Croc Coat. That's what the subtitles read.
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Croc coat. The other henchman doesn't speak. He just stands
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there menacingly. But they sit next to her and they
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pay for her coffee and they tell her that she
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did all the things that she could to get away
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from them but didn't quite do enough. So they're there
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to essentially take care of her. She says she's not
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a thief. He says it's in the genes and it's
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a shame about her old man. So to me, I'm like, well,
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how far? I mean, her last name is Kane. Where
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does this lead to? What did her old man do?
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He was a snitch. Who did he snitch on? They're
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there to take care of her because she's related to
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this guy. And they figure one snitch will breed another snitch.
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So they got to kill her. And he says it's
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in the genes. And her father couldn't keep his mouth
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shut and do his time. So they killed him. But
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just as they're about to take this into a really
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brutal place, Zoe shows up, snaps the neck of the
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henchman who didn't even get a chance to say a
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word in this episode. And then takes the other guy,
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crock coat, and slams his head into the diner. And
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we see the full power of Zoe now and her
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abilities as a Manhunter. And she essentially recruits Carrie to
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be another protector for her in this town. And Carrie,
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because she won't face the consequences of what she did
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back in Gotham or whatever happened there, Because I don't
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think it's just about her being related to this guy,
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to her dad. I think there's something more there. Plus,
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she saw her father get killed. Clearly doesn't have a
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lot of feelings for her father because she said, I
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didn't react. I didn't get angry. I didn't get upset.
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So there's something that happened back there. What's this all
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relating to? I don't know. But she needs to give
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up her pinky. She cuts off her pinky, gives it
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to this Krakow guy. The Manhunter Zoe essentially threatens him
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and says, if you don't make it stick, I will
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find your family and kill all your family as well
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as you. pretty scary thing to see zoe do this
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but this is a precursor to what is later going
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to happen with john because clearly this is a manhunter
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who understands that if people need something the manhunter can
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give it to them in exchange they will have to
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be beholden to her so again this idea of free
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will not facing the consequences all this guy surrendering your
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loyalty your allegiance to someone in power because they helped
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you out of a situation so it's a very interesting
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thing when you look at what's happening here with Carrie Kane. Anyway,
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she tells the coffee shop owner to call Bitsy to
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get rid of the dead henchman. And Zoe says she's
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repaying the favor she got long ago. Someone gave her
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a chance when she needed it most. So she's doing
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that for a Carrie and makes her promise that when
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the time comes, people will come for her. Carrie will
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defend her. And then she says, let's see about growing
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you a new pinky. So for her, she knew she
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was going to be able to help her out in
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any way possible. And there has grown her a new pinky,
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which of course, again, is giving us a little foreshadowing
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to what's going to happen later with John, where she
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essentially reconstructs his entire skin after he's been, after she
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lets him burn in the fire. So we're seeing this pattern, again,
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of people who are needing something and this miracle worker
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in power comes in and people surrender themselves to that
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person in order to defend that person because that person
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has given them a clean bill of health, their crops
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have grown, or in Macon's case, cured his cancer, as
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we see later what he says to her. So there's
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all these things. So we had maybe... but we had
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maybe speculated at the end of the last episode that
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maybe Leanna is the villain and the man hunter is
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a good person. We'll be cheering for the man. Well,
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clearly she is someone who, uh, or they are someone
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who operates almost like a mob boss, you know, like, uh,
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in the Godfather at the opening of the Godfather, when that, uh,
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A baker comes in, I think it was, or Taylor Baker,
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I think, no, no, it was Undertaker, comes in to
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essentially ask the Godfather to kill these guys who raped
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his daughter. The Godfather says, I won't kill them, but
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I'll beat them up. They'll understand never to mess with you,
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but the time will come when I will need a
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service from you. And so it's in essence that. And
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like that happens with almost any area of our lives, right? Hey,
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your boss tells you to look past this thing or
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not to make a big deal about this thing. Cause
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in the end, they're going to take care of you.
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And do you go with that or do you not?
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Life's about choices. And in that moment, Carrie Kane, in
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order to stay alive, does this in exchange. And you
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can tell in, if you look at her previous scenes,
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she's clearly conflicted by the whole thing. And in fact,
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you can like extrapolate this out. She's married to Billy
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Macon Jr. Clearly, uh, the Manhunter got with William Macon.
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And as we find out from Anton later, like that's
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what the Manhunter does. It gets with the alpha, seduces
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the alpha, bends the alpha to her will to have
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him do or him or they do whatever the Manhunter
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wants them to do. And that's clearly what happens later on.
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And so maybe the whole situation was set up here with, uh,
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With William Macon Jr. marrying Carrie Kane, in essence, like,
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you're going to do something for me. You're going to
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keep doing things for me because I saved you, right?
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So you're always in hock to a person who is
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malevolent in their approach at getting your allegiance from you
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or your loyalty from you. Because they'll never stop taking
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from you. And it's like being in a codependent, shitty,
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toxic relationship. Hey, look at all the things I did
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for you, right? You need to stay with me. You
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better stay with me. No one else is going to
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do these things for you. How can you leave me?
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Look at all these things I did for you, right?
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And so it's those kinds of things that can get
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really unsettling. But anyway, we cut to John waking up
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in the car from where Hal left him. Hal walks
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up and they have this exchange where Hal basically tells him, look,
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I knew you were going to fuck me over. You're
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working with the Guardians. And so I'm going to handle
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this business and I need you off the chessboard. So
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now you're incapacitated. But I'm going to use Anton, which
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is why I had you call him in the last episode,
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as a smokescreen to preoccupy Macon's militia because I'm going
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to tell Anton essentially that Macon is the is the Manhunter,
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and then he's going to get Zoe, take her to
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the Guardians on Oa, and while John dies, I imagine,
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and the Guardians will kiss John's ring. Now, some of
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you last episode were like, no way Hal was trying
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to kill John. No way Hal was trying to kill John. Well,
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Hal was trying to kill John, and Hal left him
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to die because Hal never comes back to check on John.
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After all this shit goes down. So for those of
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you thinking, how was it like a bad guy or
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didn't do bad things or wasn't consumed by the power
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of the ring? Hate to break it to you. That's false.
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That's false. Hal absolutely left him there to die. Wanted
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him stuck in that car and should have known the
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car was going to blow up eventually. Gas catch fire,
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which is we see what happens with John. We'll get
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to that. a little bit. He tells John that he
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was never going to replace him and that his training
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endeth here. Kind of like a reference to The Untouchables.
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You know, here endeth the lesson. That kind of thing.
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And so it's really twisted mentor-mentee relationship where Hal has
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turned on his trainee, which I thought was pretty brutal.
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So Hal, clearly consumed by the power of the ring,
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and some of the, I think one of the writers
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of the episode, let me bring it up here, or
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somebody said that they Somebody connected with, maybe it was
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one of the executive producers or the writer of this
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particular episode or the director of this particular episode compared
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Hal to LeBron James, who can't seem to let go
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of playing and will do anything to stay around, to
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stick around. We've seen those athletes who stick around. Aaron
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Rodgers for the Pittsburgh Steelers today. Yes, they won, but
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it was against a shitty Atlanta Falcons team, so no surprise,
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but he looked terrible. The old man will stick around
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as long as possible until it's finally time to get
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out of there where the league collectively kicks him out
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because nobody wants him anymore because he can't do the
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job anymore. Hal thinks he's going to be reborn in
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this situation and he'll finally have like a dominion over
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the Guardians or some sort of appreciation from the Guardians
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in that way. All right, so let's move on to
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the next thing here. Where is my... Yeah, who was it?
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The writer of this episode, Justin Brick Gibson, who's in
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the post doc there, and director Geeta Vasant Patel, who
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I thought was fantastic directing this episode. But then we
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get to the town, which is preparing for war. Billy Jr.
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wants to come with Carrie and Zoe, but they won't
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let her. Zoe talks to Noah. and wants Noah's dad
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to stay home and take care of him. She says
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that some people are going to die today, and Noah
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asks if she's going to die. She can't assure him
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that she won't. I think she says, I can't tell
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or maybe. And then Macon calls and says, Hal is missing.
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The town is mobilizing. Betty knows where John is. So
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let's stop there. So the Noah element of this is
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really fascinating because Zoe makes a, Zoe slash the Manhunter
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makes a beeline to Noah before they take off to
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make sure she talks to him. This is almost like
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Star Trek II where Spock puts the hand on McCoy's head. Remember,
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she says to him, no matter what happens today, Remember
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what I taught you. Remember what I told you. So
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in a way, Zoe has essentially been indoctrinating Noah this
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whole time. But how? How is that going to play
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itself out when we get to 2026? As we see
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by the end of this episode, we're done. It seems
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like with 2016, we're moving on to 2026. So will
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Noah be the one who has a hand in the
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death of Hal Jordan? I have a weird feeling about this.
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And why did Zoe make Carrie Kane and William Macon Jr.
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get together to have a kid? Was that all part
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of the plan? Like, I saved your father from his cancer,
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so you're going to marry Carrie. Carrie, I saved you
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from the situation. You're going to marry him, and you're
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going to have a child. And from that child, I
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am going to indoctrinate that child in some way. And clearly,
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she taught her language, or they taught their language, to Macon,
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William Macon Sr. So why wouldn't they be able to
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teach their language and their ways to Noah. So what
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is here? I wonder, did she drop her blood in Noah?
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Did she some way affect Noah or create Noah? So
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what is Noah's role in all of this? I don't
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think it's a throwaway scene to have Zoe walk up
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to him and say, remember everything I taught you. Remember
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everything I told you. That to me is going to
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pay dividends down the road, I think, in these next
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three episodes as we jump 10 years. So Noah would be, what,
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19 when we jump 10 years? So we'll see. But
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as I said, making calls says Hal is missing. The
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town is mobilizing. He knows where John is. Zoe drives
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over there just in time to see John screaming to
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her for help to get him out of the car.
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But she does not move. She does not go over
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to help him. She waits until the car blows up
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and he is essentially caught on fire. And then she
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takes him out, which we'll see a little bit later. Meanwhile,
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Hal clips the consciousness out of his ring, which I
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think is really interesting. Oh, my God. I got to
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take this. I've been talking the whole time over this. Okay.
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Sorry about that. Jesus Christ. There we go. All right.
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I'm sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry, sorry, sorry, guys. All right.
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So anyway, yes, there we go. There we go. Well,
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let's take no more pictures. I thought I could keep
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doing the pictures, but I caught myself. My apologies, guys.
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I appreciate you calling me out on that. So anyway.
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You heard what I've been saying. So anyway, that's what
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I'm saying. So we get to... So no more pictures.
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I'm not putting up any more pictures. Sorry, guys. Again,
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I'm a one-person show. Sometimes I make the mistakes. Anyway, okay,
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so now Carrie Kane is driving. Hal lands in front
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of her. But before we get to that, I will
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put up one more picture, which I know we'll take
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it down because I won't go back to my thing.
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But we do see Hal essentially clip out his consciousness
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and And we have a little moment with them where
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he's like, I thought you forgot about me. Mentions, where's
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our trainee? I liked him. So this is a different
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how than how we have now. And then he sends
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his consciousness to essentially find Zoe. and I love that
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consciousness Hal is surprised to think that this Hal would
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have drawn that picture because clearly he thinks Hal's not
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even his own consciousness knows Hal's not capable of being
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that specific or that detailed in his constructs or his
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drawing so essentially it's a nice little like dig at
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Hal for that so I thought that was really cool
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thing to see and that does come into play later
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but as i said carrie kane is driving hal lands
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in front of her carrie shoots at him says she
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has to uh because uh he tries to understand why
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and and he tries to understand why she's protecting the
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manhunter carrie says she owes her and we now have
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the backstory from the beginning of the episode of why
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she owes him and that she might turn on the
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town and turn on the town and kill people just
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to drag you out so if you even had an
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illusion That the Manhunter might be a good person, might
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be a victim in all of this of the Guardians,
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might be someone who's misunderstood, was the good Manhunter. Because,
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you know, it's interesting because Zoe says later on in
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the episode, they killed all the other Manhunters but left
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me alive and I don't know why. Right? So there's
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a little bit of a mystery here with all of that.
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I think that's still persisting into these next three episodes,
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especially with Lyanna still around. But he tries to pitch
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helping her and Noah escape and says, why aren't you
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thinking of your son? And she says, I am thinking
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of my son. That's what you don't understand. You don't
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really understand what's going on here. And she tells him,
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you have to leave if you want to save lives.
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He says he can't. And then she says, then everything
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that happens here is on you. Are you sure you
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can handle the consequences of what you're doing? And Hal
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doesn't answer. We don't see him answer. But clearly, Hal's
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not going to be stopped. And it does lead to
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a tremendous amount of bloodshed in the collateral damage of
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the civilians in the town being killed by Zoe and
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Anton's people. So it is a brutal, brutal thing that's
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coming here. But we see the battle where there have
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been this touch last episode between Hal and Carrie. Clearly,
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there is no more that touch. There's care for each other,
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I think. But she's trying to save him by shooting
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at him so that Zoe doesn't show up all of
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a sudden and surprise them and do whatever. So but
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in the end, Hal's not going to stop and Carrie
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can't make it, which leads to, of course, tragic consequences
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down the road. Then we cut to John all covered
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up in the gauze. Most of his nerves and nerve
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endings are dead. And Zoe let him essentially almost die
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in the fire so she could save him, and he'd
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owe her. Again, this is not a good person, a
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good entity, a good being. She waited until he burnt
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up so that he would owe her, and he accuses
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her of being inhuman for letting him burn. He tells
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her he knows she's a Manhunter. He tells her that
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he didn't tell the Guardians about her because he doesn't
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trust the Guardians after they tried to get him to
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take the ring. and didn't tell Hal he was being replaced.
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So Jon Stewart is a man of principle. He's a
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man who has a code and a set of ethics
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and a principle. And just because he was influenced by
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his parents to be Green Lantern, just because he slept
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with Zoe a couple of times, just because Leanna has
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chosen him to be Green Lantern, there are still, in
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his mind, a right way and a wrong way to
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do things. And we are beginning, John, in this moment,
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I think, realizing much more strongly that the wrong way
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to do things is going to be the way he
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gets the ring. And is he going to come to
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terms with that? And that's going to be interesting by
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the time we get to the end of the episode.
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But having this back and forth with her, he says
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that Anton told him not to tell Jordan because the
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Manhunter was under the protection of the Guardians. She asks
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him why not, and he says they created her. Oh, no.
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She says, does it look like I'm protected by the Guardians?
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Why do you think I'm not protected by the Guardians?
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And he says they created her and the other Manhunters
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to exact justice, but then they got too brutal. They
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flipped the switch and killed all the other Manhunters but her,
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which is what I brought up just a few seconds ago.
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She doesn't know why. She tells them how Jordan will
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die today. She's going to make him use the ring
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until it runs out of energy and then kills him.
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So here we go. This is a little bit of
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a quibble, right? Because this is a cliché. where the villain,
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and essentially the Manhunter is a villain in this episode,
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reveals their plan to the hero. And it's a little
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cliche for me. Usually, you know, good writing means the
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villain doesn't fall into those cliches, but she does here.
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Maybe this is arrogance. Maybe this is hubris because she
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thinks she's got John and John's going to owe her.
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And she thinks that Hal and John have been battling
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because she's seen that and Hal left John to die
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in the car. Maybe the Manhunter thinks that Hal, that
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it's okay to tell John this because John's not going
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to stop. Right? But he tells her. She says she
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can heal him, but only if he tells the Guardian
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that Hal died fighting Anton and his avenging angels and
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his sacrifice will restore peace and John will get the
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ring that is rightfully his. And she asks him if
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he wants her to save him And then he does.
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She drops the blood in his eye, and there's a
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conversation or joke about, like, if I come back as white,
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I'm going to be mad at you. And then she says, well,
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if I make you darker, will that be an issue? Whoa.
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Someone's setting off fireworks. Sorry, guys. Will that be an issue? And, well,
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it's throwing me off. Sorry. Yeah, someone's setting off fireworks.
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00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:29.769
I guess you guys can hear it. This is the
470
00:25:29.809 --> 00:25:31.910
residential neighborhood I live in. It's nine o'clock and they're
471
00:25:31.930 --> 00:25:35.250
setting off fireworks. Or anyway, he tells her like, yeah,
472
00:25:36.349 --> 00:25:38.250
she says she drops the blood in there and he
473
00:25:38.289 --> 00:25:40.130
makes a joke about like, don't make me come back white.
474
00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:42.450
And then he says, she says, well, what if I
475
00:25:42.490 --> 00:25:45.210
make you black or darker? He says, don't do that either,
476
00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:47.680
because my brothers are really giving me shit about that.
477
00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:50.700
And he said and she said, well, would they get jealous?
478
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.069
And he was yes and no, because they think. He
479
00:25:53.089 --> 00:25:54.769
got a fair shake, but he didn't get a fair shake,
480
00:25:54.809 --> 00:25:56.609
and they got a fair shake. So a little bit
481
00:25:56.670 --> 00:25:58.529
more of the thing with the brothers. And I wonder
482
00:25:58.549 --> 00:26:01.519
if that's going to bear fruit in the next three episodes.
483
00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:04.359
Will we see him talking with his brothers? Will there
484
00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:07.940
be conversations about the situation? And we also go back
485
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.720
in time, which I think is fascinating, to look at
486
00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:18.740
all of this stuff with John. And then John asks her, like,
487
00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:22.569
Why did you come back in this form? Why did
488
00:26:22.609 --> 00:26:25.190
you take this form to be on this planet? And
489
00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:29.960
she talks about coming from a disadvantageous position to understand
490
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.000
the culture she was coming into. So in a sense
491
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.440
saying that a woman of color in this society, in
492
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.900
our society, is one of the biggest disadvantages that a
493
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.000
person can have when they come into this earth. That
494
00:26:43.019 --> 00:26:47.859
a woman of color has men against her possibly, has
495
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.769
white people against her possibly, has her own people against
496
00:26:52.809 --> 00:26:56.309
her possibly. And we know that they, if you look
497
00:26:56.329 --> 00:27:00.269
at the statistics, women of color are paid the least
498
00:27:00.410 --> 00:27:03.400
on the scale in larger percentages of jobs doing the
499
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.819
same job as white women or white men. And so
500
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.099
this idea of being disadvantageous in the situation. Now, I
501
00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:13.519
don't know her taking that form that she took, how
502
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.529
much of that bleeds into it, even because I think she's,
503
00:27:17.549 --> 00:27:25.579
I think... I think Porna is, is she Indian? I
504
00:27:25.579 --> 00:27:28.519
think she's Indian. I've had to clarify this before in
505
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:33.069
the past. And so, yeah, no, she was born in Tunisia.
506
00:27:33.089 --> 00:27:35.930
My fault. I'm sorry. She was born in Tunisia. So, but,
507
00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:39.869
you know, she's a darker skinned woman. So what she
508
00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:41.509
has to experience. So she talks about it. And then
509
00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:45.140
she says that adversity is what creates you. Like, she's
510
00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:49.160
not saying it's okay that there's racism. It's okay that there's, Sexism,
511
00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:52.119
it's okay that there's tough things that people go through
512
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.799
because of their gender or their sexual orientation or their
513
00:27:54.819 --> 00:27:59.779
color or the wealth they were born into. She's just
514
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:04.339
saying in her mind that adversity is what breeds you,
515
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.799
is what creates you, is what builds you, not comfort.
516
00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:12.519
Comfort won't create you. Adversity does. And I say, I
517
00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:16.200
am a child of adversity. I am absolutely created from adversity.
518
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.619
So I kind of agreed to her with her for
519
00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:21.799
a bit, but we seek comfort because we want to
520
00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:23.380
get away from the, we want to get to that
521
00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:26.059
point where we are overcome the adversity so we can
522
00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.460
have some comfort in our lives. So I think it's
523
00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:30.559
a fascinating exchange that they have where we go from
524
00:28:30.619 --> 00:28:34.319
skin color with John and his brothers to talking about
525
00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:39.700
her taking on a woman of colors visage in order
526
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:43.740
to study our culture from the most disadvantageous position possible.
527
00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:46.450
She could. I thought that was a fascinating quick exchange
528
00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:52.220
between the two of them. Yeah. Let's see here. And
529
00:28:52.259 --> 00:28:55.660
then she drops the blood. Right, right. And then when
530
00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:58.160
she drops the blood, we see the flashback to the
531
00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.680
scene at five years old when he gets the Green
532
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.119
Lantern costume. We see him revisiting all the things he
533
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.269
was put through to overcome fear, and then he passes out.
534
00:29:07.529 --> 00:29:10.809
And then when we see the machine let him out,
535
00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:15.980
he immediately calls... her out for killing Abansur. She says
536
00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:17.700
that's why she's drawn to him. He really sees. So
537
00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:21.799
he figures out that she killed Abansur, even though she
538
00:29:21.859 --> 00:29:23.900
says at the beginning of the episode with Carrie in
539
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:28.319
the diner, that someone did her a solid and saved her.
540
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.069
And essentially the Manhunter brought her here to protect her
541
00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:35.430
from the guardians. And she killed Abansur because she could
542
00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:38.750
not take the chance that at some point Abansur could
543
00:29:38.789 --> 00:29:40.900
maybe turn her in. So I'm sure that was something
544
00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:44.339
that developed over time and then she eventually killed him
545
00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:47.539
and so he sent the ring out to hal that's
546
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.960
how hal got the ring so i'm just curious where
547
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.039
this all leads did liana know the man hunter was
548
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.180
here what is liana's role in all of this why
549
00:29:57.220 --> 00:29:58.779
does she want to get rid of hal so badly
550
00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:02.190
I just have questions around it. Does Hal know about this,
551
00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:05.210
the Abin Sur stuff? Is she worried that because Hal
552
00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:07.890
is connected to Abin Sur that Abin Sur imparted some
553
00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:09.990
sort of wisdom about the Manhunter, about whatever plot was
554
00:30:10.009 --> 00:30:12.650
going on there? I think there's a lot of questions, right?
555
00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:14.660
And even later on when Jon throws her the bag,
556
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.259
it says your sins and consequences are in that bag,
557
00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:20.519
your prior sins and consequences. So it's just like little
558
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:22.400
seeds that are being dropped here that I think are
559
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.200
fascinating to think about when you look at this. But
560
00:30:25.259 --> 00:30:27.839
Hal lands in the town, sees all kinds of shell casings,
561
00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:29.440
walks around to a truck, sees a dude shot in
562
00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.980
the head. He walks in the cafe, sees more dead bodies,
563
00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:34.700
and he suddenly covers himself in a green force field
564
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.259
as Anton's men empty their machine guns at him. Of course,
565
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.220
he's protected from the shield. And then he says he
566
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.240
wants to strike a deal with them. Anton walks out.
567
00:30:44.049 --> 00:30:45.769
He wants to know where Jon Stewart is. Hal tells
568
00:30:45.849 --> 00:30:48.549
Anton he was compromised by the Manhunter. He lies to
569
00:30:48.569 --> 00:30:51.759
them that William Macon is the Manhunter. Watch them work together,
570
00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:54.619
which is what he essentially was intimating to Jon. But
571
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.240
Anton then goes down an interesting path and says that
572
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:04.019
Stewart essentially had coitus, so essentially had sex with Macon.
573
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.430
And Hal says, because the Manhunter always finds the Alpha,
574
00:31:09.809 --> 00:31:12.269
seduces the Alpha, as I said earlier, and bends him
575
00:31:12.910 --> 00:31:15.710
to their will and as we find out later in
576
00:31:15.769 --> 00:31:20.150
retrospect anton was clearly talking about himself as well because
577
00:31:20.190 --> 00:31:23.869
when he confronts macon thinking he's the manhunter he essentially
578
00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:26.170
reveals that the manhunter had been his wife which is
579
00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:28.170
what he was alluding to in the second episode i
580
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.380
think when they kidnapped john i think it was the
581
00:31:30.390 --> 00:31:32.900
second episode of first episode when they kidnapped john and
582
00:31:32.980 --> 00:31:35.920
put those memories inside of him of what he went
583
00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:40.259
through so But then Hal, I think his pride's a
584
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.670
little wounded here. And this just shows you how much
585
00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:45.509
pride Hal has that he's like, no, no, no. He
586
00:31:45.529 --> 00:31:48.009
tried to bang me. He tried to have coitus with me.
587
00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:50.289
I'm the man in this situation. He tried to have
588
00:31:50.309 --> 00:31:52.250
sex with me. Not, I'm the alpha. He tried to
589
00:31:52.269 --> 00:31:54.609
have sex with me, not John, which I think is
590
00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:58.150
so fucking weird. And Anton says, well, I always thought
591
00:31:58.170 --> 00:32:02.579
you were, you always thought you were hetero. And Hal
592
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.940
says something about, it's not about preference, it's about opportunity
593
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.710
because I've seen all the things we've seen in the galaxy,
594
00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:10.990
which I think is a little funny. But they strike
595
00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:14.170
a deal after the kill order comes in. And Anton
596
00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:16.539
says to him, if you're lying that Macon is the Manhunter,
597
00:32:16.990 --> 00:32:19.579
I will kill many people in the town. And Hal
598
00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:23.579
looks at his ring and ponders this after they leave.
599
00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:27.119
So I think in that moment, Hal is having like
600
00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:31.619
a reflective moment of how much he's doing just to
601
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.269
keep the ring. I don't think it was, clearly it
602
00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:37.170
wasn't strong enough to stop Hal from going down this path.
603
00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:41.349
But clearly there is some level of Hal that was
604
00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:44.089
the consciousness that came out of his ring on that
605
00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:48.410
water tower earlier in this episode that is a good person.
606
00:32:49.049 --> 00:32:51.690
And I think him sitting there with that ring contemplating
607
00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:54.390
what he's about to do and what he's got to
608
00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:57.029
do and the lives he's going to sacrifice in order
609
00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:00.309
to keep this ring. It's not enough to stop him
610
00:33:00.329 --> 00:33:02.250
from his path, but it's enough to make us think
611
00:33:02.289 --> 00:33:05.029
that there is still something good in Hal, even though
612
00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:12.170
he is going down this very destructive road. you know? Um, uh,
613
00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:14.349
Macon is watching the feed calls. Zoe says, this is it.
614
00:33:14.369 --> 00:33:16.589
They have a tender exchange, expressing love for each other
615
00:33:16.650 --> 00:33:19.190
in her language, which she must've taught him. Obviously I
616
00:33:19.210 --> 00:33:22.650
thought this was a very sweet moment, even though clearly he,
617
00:33:23.049 --> 00:33:27.779
she manipulated him into this relationship because of saving his cancer. Uh,
618
00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:30.279
she asks if he's sure. And he says, yes, he's
619
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.440
ready to defend her. And then thanks her for the
620
00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:36.410
extra time, which I thought was really sweet. And you
621
00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:38.720
understand that he was willing to do all of this. Now,
622
00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:40.150
I don't know how much sympathy you can have for
623
00:33:40.190 --> 00:33:42.240
a guy who was essentially the cattle baron of the
624
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.559
town and probably brokered the deal with the town between
625
00:33:47.579 --> 00:33:51.240
the Manhunter and its residents, saying essentially, we'll all be
626
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.980
fine because the Manhunter is going to keep us healthy.
627
00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:58.990
And people bought into this exchange willingly. This isn't a
628
00:33:59.069 --> 00:34:02.460
WandaVision situation. They knew who the Manhunter was. They wanted
629
00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:06.400
to defend the Manhunter. They entered into this bargain. So
630
00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:09.559
I know it's terrible that some of them died, but
631
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.320
if you're harboring a war criminal, there is a possibility
632
00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:16.500
you could die. And so, you know, in the end,
633
00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:18.960
that's the collateral damage on the ground. I still think
634
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.840
it's terrible, but I don't think it's necessary. Like these
635
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.500
innocent people who were caught up, like they agreed to this.
636
00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:27.179
So I don't know how much sympathy I have, even
637
00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:29.099
though it's a very brutal scene later on with the
638
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.570
young girl and her mom. crying over their dad after
639
00:34:34.889 --> 00:34:38.239
when John gives him the watch. Anyway, they had a
640
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.820
big shootout with the Macon people. Anton's people happen. They
641
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.199
blow up some of the guards. One of the guys
642
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.900
jumps out of the truck, runs towards the underground bunker
643
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.179
and blows that up. Macon waits for Anton, pretends to
644
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.639
be the Manhunter, asks Anton. Anton asks him all kinds
645
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.300
of questions. He turns this light on him and says
646
00:34:57.340 --> 00:35:00.690
he's going to dismember him. And look, To Macon's credit,
647
00:35:01.030 --> 00:35:05.670
Macon holds on to this thing pretty far, answering Anton's questions.
648
00:35:06.050 --> 00:35:09.159
And we find out that essentially Anton was with this Manhunter.
649
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.039
They couldn't conceive kids for whatever reasons. They were lovers.
650
00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:15.960
She seduced him. I think he's still very hurt about it,
651
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.280
that he got tricked. So this is a lot of
652
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.130
this is his pride. Yes, it's for the people who
653
00:35:21.530 --> 00:35:24.199
were killed, his civilization that were killed. but it's also
654
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.739
his pride. And it makes you wonder, is this the
655
00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:31.480
tactic that all the Manhunters used? Is this what they did, right?
656
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.719
Did they go into societies, find the alpha, seduce the alpha,
657
00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:38.119
bend the alpha to their will, and then wipe out
658
00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:41.619
these civilizations as Anton was telling us in the second
659
00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:44.579
or first episode about what these Manhunters did? Is that
660
00:35:44.739 --> 00:35:47.409
how they did this? Because Anton is saying that this
661
00:35:47.469 --> 00:35:51.849
is their tactic. He says that to Hal earlier, and
662
00:35:51.889 --> 00:35:55.909
now he's having this exchange with Macon essentially being familiar
663
00:35:55.949 --> 00:35:58.710
with him as if they were together in coitus in
664
00:35:58.750 --> 00:36:01.090
the past. And so I wonder if this is what,
665
00:36:01.170 --> 00:36:06.139
and again, this speaks to how power can corrupt, total
666
00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:08.900
power can corrupt. The guardians were, or the Manhunters were
667
00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:13.780
handed total power to enact justice. And they started enacting
668
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.679
justice in a way that was brutal and horrific and
669
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:21.860
almost like putting your face in the dirt. By making
670
00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:24.619
you fall in love with them, seducing you, and then
671
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:26.619
turning you against your own people and killing you. So
672
00:36:26.820 --> 00:36:28.679
your guard would be down so they could knock out all.
673
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.829
So it's brutal the way they meted out justice. So
674
00:36:32.349 --> 00:36:36.409
I think this is, again, it's a message about how
675
00:36:37.010 --> 00:36:41.300
absolute power can corrupt absolutely and can you know, cause
676
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.429
you to do some pretty horrific things because you think
677
00:36:43.449 --> 00:36:46.250
you're right. You're willing to do all these terrible things
678
00:36:46.750 --> 00:36:48.710
because you think you're doing the right thing. You think
679
00:36:48.730 --> 00:36:51.829
you're meeting out justice, right? And I think that's important
680
00:36:51.869 --> 00:36:54.630
to think about this idea of justice and who gets
681
00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:57.449
to meet out justice and who doesn't and why and
682
00:36:57.610 --> 00:36:59.670
how brutal people in power who feel like they have
683
00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:03.210
absolute power, how brutally they will act in order to
684
00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:06.090
meet out that justice. So something to think about, I think,
685
00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:11.920
throughout this whole episode. But Macon eventually betrays himself by
686
00:37:12.019 --> 00:37:16.420
welcoming death in a way. And so Anton figures it out, jumps, jump,
687
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.590
Paul Ben Victor, nice job with the stunt there, jumping
688
00:37:18.650 --> 00:37:21.610
up there, taking his heart out of his chest and
689
00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:24.289
realizing it's not the Manhunter. It is a human being.
690
00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:28.070
Then Hal shows up and grabs Zoe, but her henchman
691
00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.030
who was taken off with a couple of her henchmen
692
00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.699
there by the helicopter. but her henchmen managed to blow
693
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.900
up the water tower, which sends out that black smoke.
694
00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:40.539
Hal ties her, handcuffs her to the helicopter, fights through
695
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.989
the black smoke, beats up one of the guards, takes
696
00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:45.889
on the glasses. What I call, I put, I put
697
00:37:45.989 --> 00:37:50.110
in for green instead of infrared glasses, sees Anton coming.
698
00:37:50.489 --> 00:37:55.989
Here's Anton's Bob going off and sends him into a whirlwind,
699
00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:58.739
a whirlpool, essentially a whirlwind rather. all the way up
700
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.619
into the sky and he blows up. So Anton dies.
701
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.239
So now Macon is dead. Anton is dead. Some members
702
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.500
of the town are dead. Um, He sees that Zoe
703
00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:10.289
has taken her, cut off her hand and escaped. He
704
00:38:10.329 --> 00:38:13.909
gets into the helicopter and he flies out of the
705
00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.190
black smoke and lands in the motel parking lot. Meanwhile,
706
00:38:17.289 --> 00:38:19.150
John has called his mom and dad and they want
707
00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:20.449
to know if he has the ring, but he wants
708
00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:22.590
to be patched into Leanna. He tells them that he
709
00:38:22.650 --> 00:38:25.650
is going to rip the ring off Hal's motherfucking finger
710
00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:28.880
as he grabs that rifle that I think he left
711
00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:31.019
from the last episode when he just needed the scope.
712
00:38:31.380 --> 00:38:34.309
He grabs the rifle, takes it with him, and heads
713
00:38:34.329 --> 00:38:37.639
to the motel himself. As I said, Hal flies and lands.
714
00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:40.239
So this is him calling his parents, and his parents
715
00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:41.739
are like, have you done it? Have you gotten the ring?
716
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.679
He's like, pass me Annaliana. What's the fucking problem? And
717
00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:46.320
his parents are like, no, no, let us know. Did
718
00:38:46.340 --> 00:38:49.059
you get the ring or not? So how compromised are
719
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.400
his parents in this situation? That's something I'm starting to
720
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.320
kind of think about as we go into the next
721
00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:57.769
three episodes. How compromised are his parents in making sure
722
00:38:57.809 --> 00:39:00.349
he gets the ring, he becomes a Green Lantern? We see,
723
00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:03.010
as I said, throughout this whole review and reaction episode,
724
00:39:03.489 --> 00:39:06.159
A lot of people making deals with these people who
725
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.000
have a lot of power. How do these deals blow
726
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.179
up in their faces? And John, in essence, when he
727
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.860
got the skin and made that deal with the Manhunter,
728
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.159
he turned on the Manhunter, broke that dude's neck, escaped
729
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:19.679
out of there, which I didn't talk about, but he
730
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.110
did it. And so he's now on the mission to
731
00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:25.460
do what he needs to do. He's betrayed the Manhunter
732
00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:28.730
after she made him promise that he would like, protect
733
00:39:28.789 --> 00:39:33.570
her and essentially give up Hal or essentially, yeah, give
734
00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:35.949
up Hal and tell the Guardians a lie about how
735
00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:39.389
Hal died and get the ring, right? So there's corruption.
736
00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.389
There's a way that Jon Stewart wants to get the
737
00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:42.960
ring and there's a way Jon Stewart doesn't want to
738
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.780
get the ring or multiple ways Jon Stewart doesn't want
739
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.820
to get the ring. And both the Guardian, both Lyanna
740
00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:50.119
and Zoey are not the ways that he wants to
741
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:51.679
get the ring. And the way his parents want him
742
00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:53.619
to get the ring is also not a way that
743
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.579
John does not want to get the ring. So very
744
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.880
interesting stuff there when you look at that. Anyway, he
745
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.940
goes into his room, Hal does, to recharge the ring
746
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.889
because we've been hearing throughout the episode that it's running
747
00:40:02.929 --> 00:40:05.530
out of power, which was Zoe's plan all along. But
748
00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:08.829
before he can recite the full oath, he starts out
749
00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:11.969
reciting the oath. John attacks him. They have a brutal
750
00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:16.110
physical battle, kicking each other, throwing each other, punching each other,
751
00:40:16.150 --> 00:40:19.360
hitting balls, like everything's in play. here in this situation.
752
00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:22.699
But just as John grabs Hal to choke him out,
753
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.159
as we saw him choke out the guard in that
754
00:40:25.219 --> 00:40:29.440
hospital room, a red light comes blaring through behind them.
755
00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:35.949
And this is those attacks from Zoe's satellites that she
756
00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:38.050
has set up around the town. So she, in essence,
757
00:40:38.110 --> 00:40:41.590
is going to blow up John and Hal. So maybe
758
00:40:41.630 --> 00:40:43.530
she realizes that John has turned on her, so she
759
00:40:43.550 --> 00:40:45.860
doesn't care if she kills John and Hal with one
760
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.420
of her shots. But instinctively, Hal protects both of them,
761
00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:52.139
which again, as I said, there's still some goodness in Hal.
762
00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:55.780
No matter how much he is pursuing this dangerous and
763
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.110
destructive path to keep the ring, he still somewhat cares
764
00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:06.210
for John, I think, to a degree. And Hal, and John,
765
00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:11.380
it explodes, and John runs out and leaves Hal in
766
00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:14.079
the rubble, right? And we think, oh, he's gone. What's
767
00:41:14.099 --> 00:41:16.639
this all about? Then Zoe walks up ready to kill
768
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.159
Hal and asks him why Hal left him there if
769
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:26.820
he's no coward. And Hal weakly says to her, bait
770
00:41:27.260 --> 00:41:32.710
as bait. And she realizes this before she pulls the
771
00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:34.969
gun to kill Hal that he might be right. She
772
00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:38.929
turns and we see that John has a scope and
773
00:41:38.949 --> 00:41:42.329
the rifle aimed directly at her and she's in his sights.
774
00:41:43.340 --> 00:41:44.860
And this is where I have a little bit of
775
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.619
a quibble because she turns and almost in a lovelorn
776
00:41:49.699 --> 00:41:54.360
way accepts her death and John shoots her in the head.
777
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.050
And I was really surprised about that because, I mean,
778
00:41:57.090 --> 00:41:59.449
if she's a Manhunter who has done all these things
779
00:41:59.889 --> 00:42:03.030
to stay alive and killed all these people to stay alive,
780
00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:06.570
why would she willingly accept the death from John? And
781
00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:08.789
if she's so powerful, wouldn't she have been able to
782
00:42:08.849 --> 00:42:11.769
stop the bullet? That's the thing. And she's so quick
783
00:42:11.849 --> 00:42:14.849
and so strong. why did she accept her death in
784
00:42:14.889 --> 00:42:18.590
that moment? It's very interesting to me. Is it because
785
00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.659
she knows that John will find out what's really going
786
00:42:21.820 --> 00:42:26.139
on here, uh, between her and Leanna possibly, or what
787
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:27.920
the deal was with the man hunters or why she
788
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.400
was spared. Like, I just think Zoe gave herself up
789
00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:35.010
too easily for me to believe because she is a
790
00:42:35.030 --> 00:42:37.150
person of such immense power. So I just have a
791
00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:42.570
little bit of suspicion here with what happened. Um, He
792
00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:44.530
walks by a dead father's body, as I said, picks
793
00:42:44.570 --> 00:42:46.309
up this watch, gives it to the crying child and wife.
794
00:42:46.750 --> 00:42:48.829
He then finds Zoe, cuts her heart over her chest,
795
00:42:49.230 --> 00:42:53.130
and it crystallizes, proving she's a manhunter. He then grabs
796
00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:55.489
the lantern, walks up to Hal. We have this shot here.
797
00:42:55.570 --> 00:43:00.349
I want to... Walks up to Hal and wrestles the
798
00:43:00.409 --> 00:43:04.449
ring off. Like, Hal is barely alive, but John wrestles
799
00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:09.010
the ring off Hal. But Hal resists, resists and grunts
800
00:43:09.809 --> 00:43:12.269
as John yanks the ring off of his finger finally.
801
00:43:13.340 --> 00:43:18.349
And Hal asks John, was it worth it? And John
802
00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:22.289
doesn't answer and puts the ring on just as a
803
00:43:22.329 --> 00:43:24.429
bird appears because we know the bird is a big
804
00:43:24.469 --> 00:43:27.309
deal from when he was a kid. He walks away
805
00:43:27.349 --> 00:43:30.090
with the lantern as Hal says, yells after him. They
806
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:33.590
replaced me. They'll replace you, which is a fair point.
807
00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:37.400
I think it's awesome that only the O is flashing
808
00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:40.599
in motel. The motel sign for me that maybe symbolizes Owa.
809
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.280
The O, that, you know, is me. Um, he now
810
00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:48.429
walks through the town and people surround him training their
811
00:43:48.489 --> 00:43:51.449
rifles and their, their weapons on him. But then Carrie
812
00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:53.130
shows up, tells him to stand down. She wants to
813
00:43:53.150 --> 00:43:55.409
know where Hal is. He tells her that he's at
814
00:43:55.449 --> 00:43:59.929
the hotel. Uh, he walks into the bar and there is, um,
815
00:44:00.309 --> 00:44:05.289
Leanna waiting for him. He is there, uh, in the bar. Um,
816
00:44:06.849 --> 00:44:08.710
she tells him it was a, uh, he tells her
817
00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:10.289
that it was, or she tells him that it was a,
818
00:44:10.690 --> 00:44:12.929
what she calls a shit show, shit show or shit storm.
819
00:44:13.889 --> 00:44:15.530
And that he should have called her earlier. He tells
820
00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:17.750
her Hal is alive, which he's not happy, which she's
821
00:44:17.789 --> 00:44:19.849
not happy about, which you can tell on her face.
822
00:44:20.469 --> 00:44:22.309
She wants to know what's in the bag. And he says,
823
00:44:22.849 --> 00:44:27.489
your sins and consequences. She opens the bag, pulls out
824
00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:36.440
the heart of the Manhunter. And he says, and she says,
825
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.420
even we make mistakes and all we can do is
826
00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:43.360
correct them. Hal talks about how, or John talks, he
827
00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:46.360
talks about how long he spent imagining what it would
828
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.460
be like to wear the ring, right? To wear the ring.
829
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.980
But he thought he'd have all these feelings that were like,
830
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.739
you know, strength, power, accomplishment, you know, that everything was
831
00:44:56.780 --> 00:44:59.519
worth it. Everything he went through was worth it, but
832
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.239
he felt empty. And he says, Hal betrayed everything to
833
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.480
keep the ring, his code, the oath, even himself, and
834
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.699
it broke him. He says, Hal probably doesn't remember why
835
00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:12.940
he wanted it, And now he says, neither do I.
836
00:45:13.409 --> 00:45:16.050
He takes the ring off, sets it on the bar,
837
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.219
and walks out. And I think that's an incredible ending
838
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:24.340
to this episode. Because again, the pursuit for power, the
839
00:45:24.380 --> 00:45:27.820
pursuit of power can corrupt you. The pursuit for the
840
00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.420
ultimate power or the pursuit for the thing that you
841
00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:34.079
think you're destined for and you're willing to destroy anything
842
00:45:34.099 --> 00:45:38.380
in the process or be underhanded or lie or trick
843
00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:41.219
the person you're trying to get it from You may
844
00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:43.880
not like the person you become in order to get
845
00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:49.260
the thing you want. And I think that's incredibly important
846
00:45:49.300 --> 00:45:52.460
to think about how from the, how we see in
847
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.139
the conscious. And I think that was on purpose to
848
00:45:54.179 --> 00:45:57.110
bring back his consciousness. It was a much more jovial,
849
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.550
happier guy who likes John from having had the quick
850
00:46:00.590 --> 00:46:05.690
conversation with him to the, how that is consumed by
851
00:46:05.809 --> 00:46:10.139
keeping power by staying in the rotation of by being
852
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.869
on an NBA court, being in a major league baseball uniform,
853
00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:18.929
or still staying at the job, even though he's outlived
854
00:46:18.969 --> 00:46:22.690
his usefulness. Like there's just so much about the idea
855
00:46:22.989 --> 00:46:27.039
of holding on too long and being willing to destroy
856
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:31.639
others who are trying to walk the path that you
857
00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:34.860
walked as a young man and have their shot as well.
858
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.920
You know, it could be Supreme Court justices who stay
859
00:46:37.940 --> 00:46:39.659
too long. It could be senators who stay too long.
860
00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:43.110
Presidents who stay too long and get dementia and end
861
00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:45.809
up fucking up our world. Like there's all kinds of
862
00:46:45.949 --> 00:46:49.269
things that can be connected to this idea of people
863
00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:52.110
in power holding onto power too long and how it
864
00:46:52.170 --> 00:46:55.340
corrupts them because they don't know who they are without
865
00:46:55.409 --> 00:46:57.519
the power. They don't want to give up the perks
866
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.820
of the power. And so they're willing to destroy anyone.
867
00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:04.519
He was willing to let Jon die to keep the ring.
868
00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:08.019
He was going the Sinestro path. For everyone trying to
869
00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:09.780
defend Hal and say like, oh, he's a good guy,
870
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.420
he's a good guy. And I said a couple of moments,
871
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.119
there's still some goodness in him. But he overall does
872
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.019
some pretty brutal shit. And I think this episode makes
873
00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:20.320
it very clear that he was willing to let Jon die.
874
00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:24.050
He was willing to kill the Manhunter and bring her
875
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.159
lifeless body back to the Guardians. because he wanted the
876
00:47:27.219 --> 00:47:31.199
Guardians to kiss his ass. He wanted that validation. And
877
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:35.179
so this is an interesting situation when you look at it.
878
00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:39.409
And Jon, who is, of course, in my opinion, the
879
00:47:39.449 --> 00:47:43.510
better of the two Lanterns, and it's been something that's
880
00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:45.710
been going on through the whole series, the idea that
881
00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:49.510
Jon can do the job better, here is his moment
882
00:47:49.550 --> 00:47:51.949
to take the ring and seize power and do the
883
00:47:51.989 --> 00:47:54.829
things he wants to do. But John is a much
884
00:47:54.869 --> 00:48:00.409
more empathetic, conscientious, intelligent person who's not a coward, right?
885
00:48:00.469 --> 00:48:06.449
As Hal says, right? He's fearless. He's so fearless that
886
00:48:06.469 --> 00:48:08.809
he's willing to give up the pursuit of the ring
887
00:48:08.909 --> 00:48:11.730
and having the ring and what his life could be
888
00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:15.530
like with the ring because he doesn't want it this way.
889
00:48:15.789 --> 00:48:17.099
It's not the right way for him to get it.
890
00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:19.130
He knows it's wrong. He feels it in his bones
891
00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:22.869
that it's the wrong thing to do. And where other people...
892
00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:26.590
made deals with people of power in this entire episode.
893
00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:32.289
Kerry Kane, William Macon, maybe William Macon Jr., the town.
894
00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:35.530
All these people made deals with people in power, whether
895
00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:39.420
it was the Manhunter or Macon, or even Anton's people
896
00:48:39.739 --> 00:48:41.719
who were working under him and doing what he told
897
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.460
them to do. John is the one person who isn't
898
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:50.239
and who doesn't. In that moment, he realizes, I cannot
899
00:48:50.300 --> 00:48:54.480
make this deal with the devil. And I won't do it.
900
00:48:55.050 --> 00:48:58.769
And I will go live my life without it. And
901
00:48:58.889 --> 00:49:03.429
that is true power. That is true power. You know,
902
00:49:03.489 --> 00:49:05.389
and I think it's an amazing moment at the end
903
00:49:05.849 --> 00:49:07.630
that he gives up the ring, the thing he was
904
00:49:07.690 --> 00:49:11.250
looking for because he knows it isn't the right thing
905
00:49:11.849 --> 00:49:15.230
for him. And he proved he was the better person
906
00:49:15.269 --> 00:49:18.989
and the better lantern. I know some of you, how Jordan, uh, um,
907
00:49:21.250 --> 00:49:23.789
fans will be upset about that and I can totally
908
00:49:23.829 --> 00:49:26.929
understand that but this is one interpretation and there have
909
00:49:26.949 --> 00:49:30.010
been many interpretations of Hal Jordan in the comics but
910
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.780
we all know and I am the most hardcore Hal
911
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.599
Jordan fan will tell you Hal has been a prick
912
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.019
in the comics And this is based on the Green Lantern,
913
00:49:40.059 --> 00:49:43.679
Green Arrow run where Hal was like, you know, did
914
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.860
some stupid shit, said some stupid shit, had to be
915
00:49:45.900 --> 00:49:48.820
corrected about shit in the world. And so the fact
916
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.699
that he here is willing to go this far just
917
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.679
to keep power, I think it's just a conversation about
918
00:49:55.929 --> 00:49:59.989
how many people in our lives hang on to power
919
00:50:00.050 --> 00:50:02.590
longer than they should. Even, you know, some people would argue,
920
00:50:03.449 --> 00:50:06.989
If you want to go political, senators, as I said, representatives,
921
00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:11.570
people at justices, people in power at businesses that hang
922
00:50:11.690 --> 00:50:14.630
on too long. Like, why is Rupert Murdoch still running
923
00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:18.429
some shit? Like, there's these kinds of things. And eventually,
924
00:50:18.650 --> 00:50:20.869
it's the power that corrupts them because they can't live
925
00:50:20.909 --> 00:50:24.389
without it. John realizes this and walks away from it,
926
00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:27.719
which is true power. It's not power to make the
927
00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:30.679
decision to enter into an unholy agreement in order to
928
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.679
keep your power. It's power to know that it's not
929
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.840
the right thing for you to do to walk away
930
00:50:35.900 --> 00:50:38.170
from power because you see what it can do to
931
00:50:38.190 --> 00:50:40.710
you because you saw what it did to Hal, who
932
00:50:40.750 --> 00:50:43.349
was a good person and got twisted by the power,
933
00:50:43.389 --> 00:50:44.829
just like the ring in Lord of the Rings to
934
00:50:44.849 --> 00:50:48.570
a degree. So yeah, I think it's fantastic to see this.
935
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.039
And now we go into 2026 and we don't know
936
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.659
what's going to happen. We don't know what becomes of Hal.
937
00:50:58.630 --> 00:51:00.969
How does Guy Gardner get the ring? Because clearly neither
938
00:51:01.030 --> 00:51:04.269
Hal nor John get the ring. It seems like Hal
939
00:51:04.349 --> 00:51:07.190
is dead because if you've seen the preview of the
940
00:51:07.230 --> 00:51:09.489
trailer for the next episode, he is in an autopsy.
941
00:51:09.510 --> 00:51:12.280
They are looking at him and whatever. Maybe they pull
942
00:51:12.340 --> 00:51:14.960
out his heart and it's crystallized. I don't know. But
943
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.400
to me, I think he really is dead. I've been
944
00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:19.539
kind of resisting the belief that he was really dead.
945
00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:21.699
But after seeing the end of this episode and seeing
946
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.079
the preview, I think he really is dead. And so
947
00:51:24.139 --> 00:51:26.340
John now is on the case to figure out what
948
00:51:26.380 --> 00:51:28.909
happened here. I think Noah's going to have something to
949
00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:30.860
do with this. I think Leanna's going to have something
950
00:51:30.889 --> 00:51:34.500
to do with this. Maybe Sinestra will have something to
951
00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:37.280
do with this. I just think there's more coming. Because
952
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.500
this episode could have easily been the second to last episode. Easily.
953
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:43.800
But the fact that we're getting this episode as the
954
00:51:43.860 --> 00:51:46.869
fifth episode and there's three episodes left, there's so much
955
00:51:46.969 --> 00:51:51.050
more to explore here about what happens with these characters
956
00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:54.969
and with this story and what happens in 2026. So
957
00:51:55.230 --> 00:51:58.679
it'll be interesting. We will see. I know some people
958
00:51:58.699 --> 00:52:00.340
are going to be really mad that Hal is dead,
959
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:10.050
but that's the story they're telling. Right, Brian, good point.
960
00:52:10.090 --> 00:52:11.789
John is in jail for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We
961
00:52:11.809 --> 00:52:13.150
got to figure out what that is. I'm sure they're
962
00:52:13.170 --> 00:52:17.570
going to show us as well. But yeah, so we
963
00:52:17.610 --> 00:52:18.889
get to the end of the episode. I think it
964
00:52:18.909 --> 00:52:21.780
was phenomenal. Again, I think there's conversations to be had
965
00:52:21.820 --> 00:52:24.469
about some of the messages in this episode. But overall,
966
00:52:24.510 --> 00:52:26.110
even if you don't want to talk about the messages,
967
00:52:26.469 --> 00:52:30.590
this was a really well-written, well-directed, well-acted episode. I think
968
00:52:30.730 --> 00:52:34.050
everything we've been building to through the four episodes led
969
00:52:34.110 --> 00:52:36.559
us to the fifth episode. As I said, I have
970
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.059
some quibbles. I will say Anton died way too quickly.
971
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:43.219
Macon died way too quickly, considering how they were built
972
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.539
up in the first four episodes to have them die
973
00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:49.019
like this. But in war, sometimes that's what happens. People
974
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:55.269
who are the biggest leaders die unexpectedly from whatever reason
975
00:52:55.289 --> 00:52:59.110
i just finished watching another episode of the american revolution
976
00:52:59.170 --> 00:53:03.320
and you see how many of these generals and uh
977
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:05.519
lieutenants or captains or officers who were in charge who
978
00:53:05.539 --> 00:53:09.940
were just incredible military tacticians die in a random bullet
979
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.920
that hits them or ball at that time hits them
980
00:53:13.019 --> 00:53:15.980
during a battle where they were untouched for numerous battles
981
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.650
some random ball hits them and they die so it's
982
00:53:18.690 --> 00:53:22.079
the way it is sometimes in war And so Anton
983
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.579
and Macon are essentially casualties of this kind of thing.
984
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.300
But I would have liked a little bit more. I
985
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:33.090
don't know if Anton was atrocitous. A lot of people
986
00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:36.110
are saying not, so we'll see. But it seems odd
987
00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:40.250
to have some nondescript species show up seeking revenge without
988
00:53:40.369 --> 00:53:42.929
something more to it. So I think there's still more
989
00:53:42.969 --> 00:53:46.519
to come from this entire story as we go into 2026.
990
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.090
But clearly we're now focusing on Who killed Hal Jordan?
991
00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:52.210
How did he die? Why did he die? And who's
992
00:53:52.250 --> 00:53:54.530
behind it? So that's probably going to be the focus.
993
00:53:54.570 --> 00:53:56.849
But I can't imagine that we're going to go away
994
00:53:56.909 --> 00:54:00.699
from 2016 or go away from when John was a
995
00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:03.159
little kid. I think there's still more information to be
996
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.719
doled out as we go along with this stuff. And
997
00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:08.219
this may be how John ends up getting the ring
998
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:12.380
again is by going through this process to find out
999
00:54:12.420 --> 00:54:14.260
what happened to Hal. Because I know, as you said,
1000
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:19.559
Guy has the ring. So we will see. Manhunter, Makin
1001
00:54:19.579 --> 00:54:22.789
went out like a G. He did, he did, he did. No,
1002
00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:28.070
they can't tell him because that's why, yeah, because they're droids.
1003
00:54:28.110 --> 00:54:32.800
They're synthetic beings. So that's why Anton asks Makin, like,
1004
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.320
what's the name of our kids? And Makin says, we
1005
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.889
couldn't have kids because they cannot procreate. So no, they can't, so.
1006
00:54:40.750 --> 00:54:44.550
All right, let's see. Let's answer some questions here from
1007
00:54:44.590 --> 00:54:47.059
you guys or anything more you want to talk. I mean,
1008
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.760
I feel like I covered everything. The Easter eggs, there
1009
00:54:49.780 --> 00:54:53.139
weren't that many Easter eggs in this. I would say
1010
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.159
just the Carrie Kane stuff. For me, the big Easter
1011
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.110
egg on that is that I think the cutting off
1012
00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:04.230
of the pinky, I mean, that's something Yakuza do in
1013
00:55:05.050 --> 00:55:07.929
the Japanese lore. I don't think this is a Japanese thing.
1014
00:55:08.590 --> 00:55:11.170
But it could be Black Mask. As we saw, John,
1015
00:55:11.210 --> 00:55:16.260
we saw when we went into that mall, there was
1016
00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:20.119
that brand name that is connected to Roman's dad, who
1017
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.800
is Roman becomes Black Mask. So I think maybe this
1018
00:55:22.860 --> 00:55:25.880
is a mafia thing. I think that may be Black Mask.
1019
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.880
So we may be getting something in that connective tissue.
1020
00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:32.699
But who's Kerry Kane's dad? Why did he snitch? Who
1021
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:35.659
did he snitch on? And are these goons working for
1022
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.539
Black Mask? I just think that that's a little bit
1023
00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:40.760
of an Easter egg when you look at the situation.
1024
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.400
But if you guys have any other Easter eggs or
1025
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.539
any other questions you want me to find out, am
1026
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.610
I blurry again? Okay, give me a second, guys. Give
1027
00:55:46.630 --> 00:55:48.630
me a second. I'll come right back. I'm getting an
1028
00:55:48.670 --> 00:55:54.539
extender on Tuesday, and that will hopefully solve the Internet issue.
1029
00:55:55.079 --> 00:56:09.940
I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Okay, how
1030
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.179
about now? Am I good? Am I good? Am I
1031
00:56:12.219 --> 00:56:15.780
good now? Hopefully I'm good. Yeah, so we'll see. We'll see.
1032
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.699
We'll see. Let's hear some questions. Hopefully I'm not too
1033
00:56:18.739 --> 00:56:22.159
blurry now. Stephen Photos says, if comic fans can't handle this,
1034
00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:24.360
how will they ever handle a proper Jean Grey Dark
1035
00:56:24.380 --> 00:56:28.340
Phoenix adaptation where she destroys an entire planet of people? Yeah,
1036
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.539
I mean, if people are, listen, I get it if
1037
00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:33.219
people are fans of Hal Jordan and they're mad that
1038
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.980
they're getting this version of Hal Jordan, can totally understand it. But,
1039
00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:39.840
you know, there's a lesson. There's a story they wanted
1040
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.679
to tell. James Gunn approved this story with Tom King.
1041
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.090
They pitched it. And this is the path they want
1042
00:56:45.110 --> 00:56:49.070
to go on. And John's obsession with the ring, that's
1043
00:56:49.090 --> 00:56:52.369
what they wanted to explore, leading to John eventually getting
1044
00:56:52.389 --> 00:56:54.409
the ring. I don't know what happens to Guy Gardner.
1045
00:56:54.429 --> 00:56:57.420
I don't know if two lanterns will exist. I don't know. But, yeah,
1046
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.539
I can understand people's upsetness if they love Hal Jordan.
1047
00:57:00.980 --> 00:57:02.880
I do think some people are upset because they don't
1048
00:57:02.900 --> 00:57:06.389
like that the white old guy is getting sidelined for
1049
00:57:06.429 --> 00:57:09.110
the young black man. I'm sure there's some racism to
1050
00:57:09.710 --> 00:57:12.250
some of the issues. Not every person who has an
1051
00:57:12.269 --> 00:57:14.670
issue with this is racist. I'm saying that some people
1052
00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:18.750
might have that as an element of their anger because
1053
00:57:18.769 --> 00:57:21.210
they're seeing the white guy pushed aside for the black man,
1054
00:57:21.750 --> 00:57:23.860
I guess. But to me, I think this is an
1055
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.960
incredible story. I don't have that kind of fandom connection
1056
00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:30.739
to Hal Jordan. I think he's always been a prick.
1057
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.440
I've always enjoyed him, though, as a hero, but he's
1058
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.730
always had his shortcomings. So this doesn't feel necessarily out
1059
00:57:36.769 --> 00:57:39.570
of character for Hal Jordan, although some people might disagree.
1060
00:57:40.309 --> 00:57:42.610
Gage says, regarding Hal, you either die a hero or
1061
00:57:42.650 --> 00:57:44.429
live long enough to see yourself become a villain. The
1062
00:57:44.469 --> 00:57:48.650
Dark Knight already predicted this. Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. I mean,
1063
00:57:48.690 --> 00:57:51.050
how many of us have seen people we care about
1064
00:57:51.849 --> 00:57:54.110
change as they get older and go and you're like,
1065
00:57:54.190 --> 00:57:57.230
what happened to the person I knew before? What happened
1066
00:57:57.269 --> 00:58:00.809
to the person who was so good and cared about people? And,
1067
00:58:00.989 --> 00:58:03.550
you know, wanted things to be fair in the world.
1068
00:58:03.630 --> 00:58:06.840
How have you become this, right? What can happen? How
1069
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.739
many of us have seen our parents, our family members,
1070
00:58:10.900 --> 00:58:15.860
our friends, our coworkers, our mentors, our teachers, our professors,
1071
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.719
or the older people in our society, as they get older,
1072
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:22.389
we see them change and become something different. You know,
1073
00:58:22.409 --> 00:58:24.909
I mean, look at, for me, look at Bill Maher.
1074
00:58:24.989 --> 00:58:27.409
I mean, Bill Maher, when he was younger, I was
1075
00:58:27.469 --> 00:58:29.230
so on board with all the things he was saying.
1076
00:58:30.300 --> 00:58:32.820
And I liked the rebelliousness nature of Bill. He'd get
1077
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.340
in the face of people. He'd call a truth to power,
1078
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.420
mock everybody. But Bill Maher now is much more of
1079
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.250
a different person. And so there are just examples all
1080
00:58:43.309 --> 00:58:46.670
over the place of people as they get older becoming
1081
00:58:46.690 --> 00:58:49.690
a completely different person than they were before. So why
1082
00:58:49.730 --> 00:58:53.190
wouldn't that happen to Hal Jordan? Especially because he's corrupted
1083
00:58:53.230 --> 00:58:54.949
by the power and he doesn't want to lose the power.
1084
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.070
Brian says, I'll admit it. Zoe had me fooled. Oh, yeah, totally.
1085
00:58:59.329 --> 00:59:01.030
A lot of people thought she was going to be
1086
00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.010
the hero of the piece. And then we find out
1087
00:59:03.010 --> 00:59:06.619
she's essentially a space age. uh uh uh what do
1088
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.599
you call it like a um an outer space mafia
1089
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:14.239
dawn uh as essentially everybody in that town entered into
1090
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.250
some kind of agreement with her to protect her because
1091
00:59:17.289 --> 00:59:20.590
they were benefiting from her presence in that town, almost
1092
00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.309
like a cult leader, right? Like I've given you, I've
1093
00:59:23.449 --> 00:59:26.469
saved you from this life that you had before. You
1094
00:59:26.539 --> 00:59:29.780
now owe me your allegiance and loyalty and to defend
1095
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.880
me when the police come or the authorities come to
1096
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:35.539
take down our compound or anything like that. It's essentially
1097
00:59:35.579 --> 00:59:39.019
cult leaders, David Koresh shit. That's essentially what she was doing,
1098
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.219
you know? And so it's a, it's tough to admit that,
1099
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.719
but it's true. KJ says as a veteran Green Lantern,
1100
00:59:44.780 --> 00:59:47.849
I am surprised that Hal always made sure that his,
1101
00:59:47.929 --> 00:59:51.409
that his ring, oh, that, that Hal doesn't always make
1102
00:59:51.449 --> 00:59:53.909
sure this ring is fully charged, that would be priority
1103
00:59:53.949 --> 00:59:57.289
before any battle. Sure, but you're seeing a veteran Green
1104
00:59:57.329 --> 01:00:01.429
Lantern with a level head who is thinking clearly, who
1105
01:00:02.030 --> 01:00:04.760
is not caught up and lost in his own pettiness
1106
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.420
and insecurity and frustrations. He's not a veteran Green Lantern
1107
01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:13.019
who is thinking straight. So he would make the mistake
1108
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.440
of allowing his ring to power down. He would think
1109
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.559
he has enough time to do what he needs to
1110
01:00:17.579 --> 01:00:20.679
do and then get to Get to the hotel. And remember,
1111
01:00:20.739 --> 01:00:23.800
Hal always thinks he's right because he's been proven right
1112
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.179
so many times. So why would he question himself if
1113
01:00:27.219 --> 01:00:29.659
he thinks he can pull off this plan to get
1114
01:00:29.699 --> 01:00:32.110
to Zoe, then power up his ring and have no
1115
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.690
problem doing all the things he needs to do? So, yes,
1116
01:00:35.070 --> 01:00:38.030
in a vacuum, a veteran Green Lantern would know to
1117
01:00:38.070 --> 01:00:40.090
power up their ring first and all of that kind
1118
01:00:40.130 --> 01:00:43.530
of stuff. But this Green Lantern, Hal Jordan has always been,
1119
01:00:43.550 --> 01:00:49.929
he's always had hubris and arrogance and a belief that
1120
01:00:49.969 --> 01:00:53.449
he's right, right? And even Sinestro said to him, you
1121
01:00:53.469 --> 01:00:56.030
were blind to certain things, you were blind to certain things,
1122
01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:59.610
and so to some hubris and whatever. So there's elements
1123
01:00:59.650 --> 01:01:03.429
of that in Hal. I think that's where the issue,
1124
01:01:03.489 --> 01:01:05.010
and look, you can have a quibble with that too.
1125
01:01:05.050 --> 01:01:07.969
You can say that's a quibble. I understand that. Brian says,
1126
01:01:07.989 --> 01:01:10.369
how trying to convince Anton that he was gay. LOL. Yeah,
1127
01:01:10.409 --> 01:01:12.409
I know that was kind of funny. I thought so too. Well,
1128
01:01:12.449 --> 01:01:16.469
not that he was gay. He said that, um, it's
1129
01:01:16.550 --> 01:01:20.820
not about preference. It's about opportunity. So for him, I
1130
01:01:21.940 --> 01:01:24.880
would say he was trying to convince Anton that he's polyamorous,
1131
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.480
which means he, there is no, it doesn't matter to
1132
01:01:27.500 --> 01:01:31.820
him what gender or species, uh, you are. He is
1133
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.230
willing to have sex with you no matter what. So
1134
01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:37.869
it was a funny scene, but it wasn't, just gay.
1135
01:01:37.889 --> 01:01:40.030
There are gay illusions, obviously, because Macon is a man
1136
01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:43.820
and all of that, but he was essentially saying that
1137
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.460
it didn't matter to him. Let's see. John, leaving the
1138
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.940
ring was like Charlie leaving the everlasting gobstopper on the
1139
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.559
desk of Willy Wonka. Yes, that's a great point. That's
1140
01:01:53.599 --> 01:02:01.099
a great point. And that happens in life, right? How
1141
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:05.420
many players we see nowadays from the NFL retire after
1142
01:02:05.460 --> 01:02:08.429
a few years or retire in their prime while they're
1143
01:02:08.449 --> 01:02:15.590
still young because everything they worked for, they achieved, they
1144
01:02:15.610 --> 01:02:20.230
got it. And when they got it, they realized it
1145
01:02:20.309 --> 01:02:24.880
wasn't what they wanted. There's a great film called Inherit
1146
01:02:24.900 --> 01:02:32.699
the Wind with Spencer Tracy, Frederick March, Darren from Bewitched,
1147
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.010
Gene Kelly, And it's based on the play, and it's
1148
01:02:36.030 --> 01:02:37.769
based on the Scopes Monkey Trial, for those of you
1149
01:02:37.809 --> 01:02:40.150
old enough to remember the Scopes Monkey Trial and study
1150
01:02:40.170 --> 01:02:43.730
that history. There's a great scene where Spencer Tracy's character,
1151
01:02:43.809 --> 01:02:45.829
who is based on an older lawyer, who was a
1152
01:02:45.829 --> 01:02:49.030
very successful lawyer back in that time, tells a story
1153
01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:51.489
about the rocking horse, that when he was a kid,
1154
01:02:51.510 --> 01:02:54.679
he used to walk by this general store, and they
1155
01:02:54.699 --> 01:02:58.360
had this rocking horse, and he wanted to ride this horse,
1156
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:00.440
and he thought this horse was amazing, or it was
1157
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.719
a plastic horse or whatever it was. And he kept
1158
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:08.869
begging his father to let him borrow money to get
1159
01:03:08.909 --> 01:03:12.869
the horse. And eventually, the father made enough money to
1160
01:03:12.909 --> 01:03:16.889
get him the horse. And he was just so excited
1161
01:03:16.909 --> 01:03:19.489
because the horse was everything he had ever wanted. He
1162
01:03:19.670 --> 01:03:23.730
had put all these expectations on the horse. And then
1163
01:03:23.789 --> 01:03:26.389
when he got on the horse, his leg went through
1164
01:03:26.409 --> 01:03:28.360
the side of the horse because it was made from
1165
01:03:28.449 --> 01:03:32.909
shitty material. And the horse eventually fell apart. And so
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it was a lesson to him that not everything that
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01:03:36.769 --> 01:03:40.320
looks like it's amazing is amazing once you get it.
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01:03:40.610 --> 01:03:44.159
Not everything that you ever wanted is what you wanted
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01:03:44.179 --> 01:03:49.940
once you get it. And that speaks to something really powerful.
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01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:52.440
And John realized in that moment, because the way he
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01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.679
got the ring is not the way he wanted to
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01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.030
get the ring. I think John would have been happy
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01:03:57.050 --> 01:04:00.110
to get the ring if he had earned the ring. Remember,
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01:04:00.179 --> 01:04:02.840
he was upset in the first episode that Hal was
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01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.579
chosen and given the ring, whereas John wants to earn
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01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:09.980
the ring. And in essence, having Leanna say to him,
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01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:15.610
and his parents, that you need to trick Hal to
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01:04:15.659 --> 01:04:18.230
get the ring off of him and essentially put him
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01:04:18.289 --> 01:04:22.710
six feet under, that just is wrong to John. And
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01:04:22.789 --> 01:04:26.630
that sullies... him getting the ring. Other people wouldn't have
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01:04:26.650 --> 01:04:29.909
an issue with it, like probably Guy Gardner, but John
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01:04:29.949 --> 01:04:31.909
does because John is a man of principle and ethics
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01:04:31.929 --> 01:04:34.809
and morals. And to him, it matters how you get
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01:04:34.849 --> 01:04:37.610
something and that it matters to him to earn something.
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01:04:37.650 --> 01:04:38.909
And I think that as a blind spot of his
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01:04:38.949 --> 01:04:42.860
parents who didn't realize, like you raising a son who
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01:04:42.909 --> 01:04:46.760
is earning his way to becoming a Green Lantern, why
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01:04:46.780 --> 01:04:49.360
would you think that he would just accept it being
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01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.769
given to him rather than him earning it? So it
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01:04:52.829 --> 01:04:54.329
is a bit of a blind spot in the parents
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01:04:54.349 --> 01:04:57.170
that they didn't see that coming. So it's very interesting.
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01:04:58.110 --> 01:05:00.369
Jody said, thank you, Jody. Appreciate you, bro. Thanks for
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01:05:00.389 --> 01:05:04.070
the super sticker, my friend. I appreciate you. 250 of
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01:05:04.090 --> 01:05:06.039
you joining me live right now. Thanks so much. Please
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01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.860
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01:05:07.900 --> 01:05:10.219
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01:05:17.300 --> 01:05:19.639
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01:05:20.019 --> 01:05:22.550
and please if you're watching later leave your comments uh
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01:05:22.610 --> 01:05:24.570
what do you think happened here what stood out to
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01:05:24.590 --> 01:05:25.909
you what worked for you what didn't work for you
1204
01:05:25.929 --> 01:05:28.309
what do you think the messages of this episode were
1205
01:05:28.710 --> 01:05:31.010
am I crazy with some of the stuff I'm taking
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01:05:31.030 --> 01:05:33.650
away from the episode I'm sure Michael and Shannon will
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01:05:33.670 --> 01:05:35.530
let me know I'm crazy when we finally review this
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01:05:35.590 --> 01:05:38.900
episode sometime this week maybe tomorrow maybe Wednesday depending on
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01:05:38.940 --> 01:05:42.119
our schedules um but yeah that's the so let me
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01:05:42.139 --> 01:05:44.199
know down there in the comment section but most of
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01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.969
all I want you to please Subscribe to the channel
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01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:49.719
down below so you can help us out here. Wiley,
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01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.119
where is yours? Sorry, my man. Let me see if
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01:05:52.139 --> 01:05:59.699
I've got yours here. Wiley, Wiley, Wiley. Wiley, Wiley, Wiley.
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01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.780
Get your adverbs here. I don't see yours, Wiley. Did
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01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:09.019
I move it somewhere? Will you put it back in here, Wiley?
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01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:17.070
I don't know where I put it. Um... Yeah, I
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01:06:17.090 --> 01:06:19.010
don't know where I put it, but sorry, my friend.
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01:06:19.650 --> 01:06:24.940
I don't know where it is. Did I delete it
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01:06:24.980 --> 01:06:27.840
by accident, hitting buttons? I can do that sometimes. I'm
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01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:32.679
a bit of a buffoon. Let me see. Yeah, I
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01:06:32.699 --> 01:06:34.489
don't know why I can't see it. Oh, wait, maybe
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01:06:34.510 --> 01:06:36.510
I can go all the way back to the beginning. No,
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01:06:36.550 --> 01:06:41.769
it's not here. Did you accidentally take it down? Why?
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01:06:41.809 --> 01:06:43.809
Because it's not even in the chat, so I don't know.
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01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.940
Just put your question in the chat, bro. Don't worry
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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:53.269
about it. I don't... Or maybe... No, I don't think
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01:06:53.329 --> 01:06:55.710
it comes through this way either. I don't know what
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01:06:55.730 --> 01:06:59.889
happened there, bro. My apologies, man. It's a good question.
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01:06:59.929 --> 01:07:01.860
What language do you think they were speaking? I really
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01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.440
don't know. Let's see if we can look it up
1232
01:07:05.460 --> 01:07:35.579
real quick. What language was the Manhunter speaking? I don't know.
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It doesn't say. It doesn't say. So I don't know
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what language they'd be speaking. Just type in Manhunter language.
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See if something comes up here. No. Someone says, we
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01:07:56.409 --> 01:08:04.639
speak in Manhunter language now. Yeah, I mean, it's very
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01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:12.139
possible that Noah is a Manhunter. Maybe Noah is the Manhunter.
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I don't know. It's very, very possible. So that could
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01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.189
be an element of this down here. I scrolled up
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in the chat and it's there. Okay, here it is. Man,
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01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:26.300
what a great episode. John has become one of my
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01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:29.810
favorite on-screen heroes. Great bot IVR needle drop right. This
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01:08:29.869 --> 01:08:32.130
is the power of DC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,
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01:08:32.729 --> 01:08:34.890
there were a couple of good songs they played in
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01:08:34.949 --> 01:08:38.369
this episode I thought were great. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah,
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01:08:38.449 --> 01:08:40.130
you guys can see it. I don't know what I
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01:08:40.170 --> 01:08:43.329
did with it. I don't know if I accidentally hit it,
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01:08:43.750 --> 01:08:47.939
but I can't see Wiley's super chat. So since I
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01:08:47.979 --> 01:08:51.239
control that on my end, I must have hit some
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button in an excited moment. Karen says that Heavy Spoilers
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01:08:56.189 --> 01:08:57.829
said they were speaking a mix of different languages. Well,
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01:08:57.869 --> 01:08:59.569
if Heavy Spoilers said it, I believe it because Heavy
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01:08:59.590 --> 01:09:01.960
is great on he's been great on breaking down. I
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01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:03.359
don't know if you guys saw last week. So he
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01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:07.390
did one earlier this or last week, earlier this week, rather, uh,
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01:09:07.409 --> 01:09:09.510
this past week. And, uh, I watched that one. It
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01:09:09.550 --> 01:09:13.329
was like 13 minutes breaking down the trailer for episode five,
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01:09:13.670 --> 01:09:16.500
this episode we got tonight. and I don't know how
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01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:17.979
much of his stuff came true, but it was a
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01:09:18.020 --> 01:09:20.760
really engaging thing. So if he says that, that's true.
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01:09:20.779 --> 01:09:22.199
So Andrew says, what happens to the ring now? It's
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01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.939
a great question. I think Leanna takes the ring, and
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01:09:24.979 --> 01:09:29.109
I think the Guardians eventually choose Guy Gardner. I don't
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01:09:29.170 --> 01:09:31.189
know how much of them choose, and maybe they choose
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01:09:31.229 --> 01:09:33.890
Guy Gardner because he's a prick, and they know he's
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01:09:33.909 --> 01:09:36.470
going to do, like he's even a worse prick than Hal,
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01:09:37.109 --> 01:09:40.159
and that he's going to not have any hangups like,
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01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.479
john has they know that how they know that a
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01:09:43.539 --> 01:09:45.520
guy is not someone who's caught up in the moral
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dilemmas of life or doing the right or wrong thing
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01:09:48.869 --> 01:09:51.329
uh he's going to be happy to have the ring
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01:09:51.670 --> 01:09:54.069
they know he's a bit of a jerk off so
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01:09:54.329 --> 01:09:56.970
he'll he's an easy and he's not that smart so
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01:09:56.989 --> 01:09:58.810
he's not going to question the guardians the way how
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01:09:58.869 --> 01:10:01.760
does or the way uh the way john does and
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01:10:01.770 --> 01:10:04.659
so i think that's probably why they choose him uh
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01:10:04.779 --> 01:10:09.390
in this in the situation um So you think Hal
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01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.489
doesn't get it back in the series? Yeah, eventually. Eventually,
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01:10:12.510 --> 01:10:14.989
I think he will. I don't think Hal gets the
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01:10:15.029 --> 01:10:21.329
ring back. No. I think Hal is... I think once
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01:10:21.369 --> 01:10:23.409
Hal gets away from the ring and heals up, I
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01:10:23.449 --> 01:10:25.920
wonder if he stays with Carrie. We see in the
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01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:29.060
trailer for next episode, she says that he came back
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01:10:29.140 --> 01:10:32.199
for her, but it is curious that he's still wearing
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01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:35.739
the same outfit he wore in 2016. That's really curious.
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01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.300
The same jacket. Yes. So where's Hal been over these
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01:10:39.340 --> 01:10:41.640
last 10 years? Does Hal go on this journey on
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01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.880
his own? Does he meet Carol Ferris? What goes on
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01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.220
with Hal during this time of the 10 years? I
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don't know. It's a good question, right? Where does he go?
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01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.380
Where does John go? Does John go back to being
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01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:55.899
an architect? Is that why he grows that little goatee
1293
01:10:55.979 --> 01:10:58.079
out to show off that he's an artist? I don't know.
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01:10:58.100 --> 01:11:00.079
There's a lot of questions when you look at this stuff.
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01:11:00.100 --> 01:11:03.779
So I'd be interested to see. And Wiley says, I
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01:11:03.819 --> 01:11:05.739
love how John left the ring. I'm like John, I
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01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.180
like to earn things. Yeah, thanks for that wooden horse story, Roka.
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01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.010
You really get to see this lesson. Yeah, it's true.
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01:11:11.020 --> 01:11:13.770
I mean, I don't know that, I think all of
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01:11:13.810 --> 01:11:16.470
you have experienced this. I think we all experienced this.
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01:11:16.989 --> 01:11:20.229
That we, if we're like, if I get that one thing,
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01:11:20.250 --> 01:11:22.850
I know my life will be happy. I'll have the
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01:11:22.909 --> 01:11:25.460
greatest life if I could just have this one thing.
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01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:28.720
But the truth is, once you get that one thing,
1305
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.909
you realize that it wasn't what you wanted. And it
1306
01:11:32.970 --> 01:11:35.390
isn't with everything. I think, I just think all of
1307
01:11:35.449 --> 01:11:38.189
us have had, it's a very universal experience. If I
1308
01:11:38.229 --> 01:11:40.659
can just get a date with that girl, I'm going
1309
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.180
to have a great time or date with that guy
1310
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:46.300
or however, you know, however you identify, I could be happy.
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01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:48.859
I could see my whole world in that person. Right.
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01:11:49.260 --> 01:11:51.340
And then you go out with that person and they're not,
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01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.140
they're not who you thought they were going to be. Right.
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01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:56.100
And so you built it up in your mind and
1315
01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:57.739
you get, it's like, Oh, it's not, it's not what
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01:11:57.779 --> 01:12:00.930
I thought it was going to be. You know, When
1317
01:12:00.970 --> 01:12:04.590
I won that Schmodown title from Dan, the elation of
1318
01:12:04.670 --> 01:12:08.930
that moment was amazing. I was so happy and I'd
1319
01:12:08.989 --> 01:12:11.810
worked for it. But then when I went back and
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sat down by myself with the title, hardly anyone came
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01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:21.020
by from the players to say congratulations or whatever or
1322
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.699
talk to me about it. They just kind of did
1323
01:12:23.739 --> 01:12:25.720
their thing. And then I sat there and I was like, wow,
1324
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.699
I spent all this time trying to get this thing.
1325
01:12:28.890 --> 01:12:30.609
Was it that big of a deal? And it was,
1326
01:12:31.130 --> 01:12:33.189
but it didn't bring me what I thought it was
1327
01:12:33.210 --> 01:12:34.630
going to bring me when I won it, you know,
1328
01:12:34.689 --> 01:12:37.029
and I was so committed to winning that thing. So
1329
01:12:37.050 --> 01:12:38.970
it was a lesson learned. It's always going to, you're
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01:12:38.989 --> 01:12:41.300
going to learn these lessons over and over again in life. Not,
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01:12:41.939 --> 01:12:44.359
not every, you get that one, you get that car.
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01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:46.680
You're like, if I get this car, I'll be so high.
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01:12:46.699 --> 01:12:49.020

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01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:54.119

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01:12:54.140 --> 01:12:57.770
If
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01:12:57.779 --> 01:13:00.989
I start this YouTube channel, if I start this podcast,
1337
01:13:01.229 --> 01:13:03.529
you just never know, right? You think these are the things.
1338
01:13:03.569 --> 01:13:06.029
But that's how human beings are. We live in hope.
1339
01:13:06.149 --> 01:13:08.970
We live in expectation. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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01:13:09.710 --> 01:13:11.850
But in the end, sometimes the things you want the
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01:13:11.909 --> 01:13:13.229
most or the things you think that are going to
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01:13:13.250 --> 01:13:17.189
bring you happiness don't. And that's the hard truth of
1343
01:13:17.229 --> 01:13:21.739
life sometimes. Yeah, of course, the anticipation is drug for
1344
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.979
the goal. Absolutely, absolutely. Uh, well, this is one thing
1345
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:26.590
I crave is a relationship. The moment I get in,
1346
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:28.579
I get a little into the water. I want to
1347
01:13:28.619 --> 01:13:33.819
retreat instantly. It's hard and difficult feeling. Oh, oh yeah, sure. Oh, sure, man.
1348
01:13:33.859 --> 01:13:38.260
That's listen, I am not professionally qualified to analyze that situation, brother.
1349
01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:41.039
That is for a therapist to talk to you about. Uh,
1350
01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:43.270
but so many of us are, are like kind of
1351
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:47.729
messed up, um, uh, for so many reasons when we
1352
01:13:47.770 --> 01:13:51.729
get into relationships or when we, navigate relationships. All of
1353
01:13:51.829 --> 01:13:54.979
us have our own weirdness. That's why I love Punch
1354
01:13:54.989 --> 01:13:57.149
Drunk Love and I love Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
1355
01:13:57.189 --> 01:13:59.560
Mind because those are two films that kind of broke
1356
01:14:00.500 --> 01:14:04.800
that romantic comedy nonsense that we were fed for decades
1357
01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:10.739
since the 80s about these expectations of what relationships are
1358
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.239
supposed to be like. And some people put those expectations
1359
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.899
on the people they were dating or seeing and that
1360
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.079
ended up blowing up in their faces. I certainly had
1361
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:22.159
that issue in my twenties. Like, why aren't you acting
1362
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:24.359
like the people I see in the movies? Why aren't
1363
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.229
we happy? Like the people we, I see in the movies,
1364
01:14:27.270 --> 01:14:31.210
you know, and it's because there's deeper stuff going on
1365
01:14:31.949 --> 01:14:36.210
within you that you're not addressing. And that's, that's life,
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01:14:36.529 --> 01:14:39.729
you know, so relationships can expose your shortcomings as well
1367
01:14:39.770 --> 01:14:43.569
as your, your positives of who you are as a person. So,
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01:14:44.449 --> 01:14:46.979
you know, getting into a relationship can be difficult. Coming
1369
01:14:47.020 --> 01:14:49.060
out of a relationship can be difficult. Once you're in
1370
01:14:49.100 --> 01:14:52.020
the relationship, these things that you didn't think about come
1371
01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:54.699
popping up. And so you have to deal with them
1372
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.329
and you should deal with them, you know, and take
1373
01:14:57.350 --> 01:14:59.090
it from me as someone who didn't deal with them
1374
01:14:59.149 --> 01:15:01.670
until much later in life. Cause I didn't think I
1375
01:15:01.689 --> 01:15:03.409
had anything wrong with me. I thought they were all
1376
01:15:03.430 --> 01:15:08.010
the problem. Uh, you, if you're consistently failing in relationships,
1377
01:15:08.529 --> 01:15:10.680
the problem is not them. It doesn't mean that they
1378
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.319
don't do stuff wrong. Sure. But the problem is you.
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01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:15.479
And I don't mean that you're a bad person. It
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01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:18.539
means that you're selecting people who are maybe aren't the
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01:15:18.579 --> 01:15:23.020
best for you or you're indulging in behavior that is
1382
01:15:23.060 --> 01:15:26.180
self-destructive that you're not aware is self-destructive. And so those
1383
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.739
are the things that therapy helps you like unpack and
1384
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.649
figure out. And so, you know, that's the thing, like
1385
01:15:31.689 --> 01:15:37.210
even John getting with, uh, Zoe, like this is another
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01:15:37.250 --> 01:15:39.229
man's wife, but he still was willing to sleep with
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01:15:39.250 --> 01:15:42.149
her twice, you know, and then find out she's a
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01:15:42.189 --> 01:15:44.439
man hunter and not tell John, not tell Hal about it.
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01:15:45.029 --> 01:15:46.970
And then eventually he takes her out. Right. And she
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01:15:47.010 --> 01:15:49.630
lets herself die. Because again, I think she could have
1391
01:15:49.649 --> 01:15:51.430
stopped the bullet. I think she could have used her
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power to quickly evade the bullet. There's no way an
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alien who sees the bullet coming with her power, a
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01:16:00.050 --> 01:16:03.390
guardian who has fought off probably all kinds of outer
1395
01:16:03.430 --> 01:16:07.210
space weapon and decks and weapons and tech would be
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01:16:07.289 --> 01:16:09.899
taken down by a bullet that she sees coming, by
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01:16:09.909 --> 01:16:12.439
the way. So I just think there's something more to
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01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:16.560
that down the road. But even he was willing to
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01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.359
play with fire in the situation. And it burnt him
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to a degree. Fred says, remember the movie, The Candidate? Yes.
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01:16:23.699 --> 01:16:26.239
After Robert Redford won his election, he asked his campaign manager,
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01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:29.989
what next? Yes, exactly. The 70s was full of stuff
1403
01:16:30.010 --> 01:16:33.189
like that. Remember the end of The Graduate? When Dustin
1404
01:16:33.229 --> 01:16:37.119
Hoffman gets with Catherine, you know, gets with Catherine, God,
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01:16:38.109 --> 01:16:42.239
what's her last name? I forget Catherine's last name, the
1406
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.520
actress's last name. Catherine Ross. When he gets with Catherine Ross...
1407
01:16:45.970 --> 01:16:48.789
and takes her away from that dude. And he thinks he's,
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01:16:48.930 --> 01:16:51.489
you know, he's the hero. He saves her. They jump
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01:16:51.569 --> 01:16:56.010
on the bus. Then Mike Nichols lets the camera linger
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01:16:56.109 --> 01:16:59.029
on them as they sit on the bus until the
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01:16:59.109 --> 01:17:01.569
euphoria of what they'd done wears off. And they're like,
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01:17:02.430 --> 01:17:07.289
oh shit, what now? Right, because the goal was achieved,
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01:17:07.350 --> 01:17:10.520
but you didn't think past the goal. And neither of
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01:17:10.569 --> 01:17:15.020
them are actually right for each other. The one positive
1415
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.010
is that Benjamin gets a little bit of a stroke
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01:17:18.050 --> 01:17:22.170
that he was able to take her away from someone else. Uh,
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01:17:22.289 --> 01:17:24.130
and she gets what gets out of what would have
1418
01:17:24.149 --> 01:17:27.329
been probably a loveless waspish marriage that she would have
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01:17:27.350 --> 01:17:31.109
never been happy with, with the judgmental wealthy elite, you know?
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01:17:31.260 --> 01:17:34.479
So the idea of what now, what next is a
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01:17:34.539 --> 01:17:39.699
very universal thing in a lot of our lives. Uh, Oh,
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01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:42.260
what's the sky? Uh, I'm maybe the best show on
1423
01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:45.409
TV right now. Wow. I won't say that because I'm
1424
01:17:45.510 --> 01:17:50.109
loving lioness season three. Uh, I think this, uh, season
1425
01:17:50.170 --> 01:17:53.130
is the best season so far. We finished all six episodes.
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01:17:53.149 --> 01:17:55.529
There's two more to go. The new one dropped tonight.
1427
01:17:55.569 --> 01:17:59.039
We'll watch that tomorrow. Probably lady outlaw. But like, I
1428
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.319
think lioness is probably at the top of my list
1429
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.859
right now, but lanterns is definitely in the top three
1430
01:18:04.699 --> 01:18:12.350
of the shows I'm watching right now. Um, it's incredible. Um,
1431
01:18:13.390 --> 01:18:15.550
I like the new Reacher as well. I think this
1432
01:18:15.609 --> 01:18:19.189
is better than Reacher, but I like the new Reacher
1433
01:18:19.229 --> 01:18:21.060
show that's on. But yeah, definitely it's one of the
1434
01:18:21.100 --> 01:18:24.600
best shows on TV right now. Absolutely. Irregardless of the
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01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.539
anger that some people have about how Hal Jordan is
1436
01:18:27.579 --> 01:18:31.300
being treated. David says some college grads have the what's
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01:18:31.340 --> 01:18:34.100
next moment. I didn't have a real plan. Yeah, exactly.
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01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:36.859
You and me both, bro. I didn't graduate college my
1439
01:18:36.899 --> 01:18:39.670
first trip around. I essentially failed out of college my
1440
01:18:39.710 --> 01:18:43.420
first trip around. I mean, I quit college, but I
1441
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.050
think I had a grade point average of 1.1 because
1442
01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:48.810
I just kind of like tanked. I didn't go to classes.
1443
01:18:48.869 --> 01:18:50.869
I just i got caught i was joined i've joined
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01:18:50.890 --> 01:18:53.109
a fraternity which was the dumbest thing i ever fucking
1445
01:18:53.140 --> 01:18:56.399
did just a horrible horrible experience seeing some of the
1446
01:18:56.460 --> 01:19:00.319
worst uh behaviors i would ever want to see between
1447
01:19:00.420 --> 01:19:02.819
men and women in or not men i guess not
1448
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.420
women i guess but like teenagers or people in their
1449
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:11.409
late teens like 19 18 20 Um, and seeing some
1450
01:19:11.430 --> 01:19:13.550
of the, and hearing some of the most like horrific
1451
01:19:13.609 --> 01:19:16.880
shit and racist shit. It just was the worst experience
1452
01:19:16.909 --> 01:19:19.380
possible to be part of that fraternity and to be
1453
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.199
on that campus. Uh, and that's why I eventually joined
1454
01:19:23.220 --> 01:19:25.760
the military and left and went and did my own thing. And,
1455
01:19:26.619 --> 01:19:28.239
but I came, when I came back to school at
1456
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.880
Florida state, I was a different person because I had
1457
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:33.779
grown up, I'd matured, I'd aged. And I wanted to
1458
01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:35.659
go back to college and I got my degree and
1459
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:37.500
I got a, and I was a pretty you know,
1460
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:39.960
my grade average was very high at Florida state. They
1461
01:19:39.979 --> 01:19:42.159
had to combine the stuff from my previous college. So
1462
01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.119
my grade point average didn't a hundred percent end up
1463
01:19:45.140 --> 01:19:48.350
being great cumulative, but it was pretty. Cause I went
1464
01:19:48.390 --> 01:19:51.550
back to community college and got my AA degree there.
1465
01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.489
And I, I knocked that shit out of the park
1466
01:19:53.930 --> 01:19:55.890
and then went to Florida state. And I think I
1467
01:19:55.909 --> 01:19:59.090
graduated with three, six, three, seven G points, maybe three,
1468
01:19:59.130 --> 01:20:00.909
eight G point GPA. I don't remember, but it was
1469
01:20:00.930 --> 01:20:03.189
very high. But when they factored in the stuff from
1470
01:20:03.210 --> 01:20:05.930
my previous college, it did, it kind of lowered it. So, but,
1471
01:20:07.069 --> 01:20:09.069
when I went back to college, I knew what I wanted.
1472
01:20:09.149 --> 01:20:10.649
I knew what I wanted to get out of it.
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01:20:10.750 --> 01:20:13.729
And so it's a better experience when you know what
1474
01:20:13.789 --> 01:20:17.300
you want. And it's okay to not know what you
1475
01:20:17.340 --> 01:20:20.039
want as well. And when you realize that this is
1476
01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:22.100
not what you want to go on your own journey
1477
01:20:22.539 --> 01:20:24.979
until it's ready, until you're ready to come back and
1478
01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:27.720
get what you want. There's nothing wrong with that. You know,
1479
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.649
I came back to school seven years later and just
1480
01:20:30.729 --> 01:20:32.609
fucking killed it. I loved it. I met all, I
1481
01:20:32.630 --> 01:20:34.210
met so many of my great friends that are still
1482
01:20:34.250 --> 01:20:37.029
my friends today. Shannon, Michael, A lot of our crew
1483
01:20:37.069 --> 01:20:39.649
from Florida State, we're all still friends today. I had
1484
01:20:39.689 --> 01:20:41.609
a great experience. I went to London and studied for
1485
01:20:41.670 --> 01:20:44.590
six months in London, which was an incredible experience. So,
1486
01:20:45.430 --> 01:20:48.829
so much of my years at Florida State were arguably
1487
01:20:48.850 --> 01:20:51.409
the best years of my life. I'm pretty happy now, obviously,
1488
01:20:51.430 --> 01:20:53.640
with the Lady Outlaw and the life we've built. But
1489
01:20:53.649 --> 01:20:57.100
I mean, the experiences of that time were great. Why?
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01:20:57.140 --> 01:20:58.939
Because I was ready to be at college. I was
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01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.359
ready to experience it, enjoy it, and have fun with it.
1492
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.159
Whereas my first trip was just hell on earth for
1493
01:21:05.180 --> 01:21:08.020
so many reasons. All right. Is there anything more we
1494
01:21:08.060 --> 01:21:10.439
need to talk about? Any other Streamlabs or Super Chats
1495
01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:14.859
that came through that I see? No, nothing from Fred
1496
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.399
or anybody else. Okay, cool. I just wanted to make
1497
01:21:16.420 --> 01:21:18.729
sure before we wrap it up. All right. So there
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01:21:18.739 --> 01:21:20.789
we go. I think this is a great episode of
1499
01:21:20.850 --> 01:21:23.189
Television Lights Out. Shout out to the director, the writer,
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01:21:23.229 --> 01:21:26.350
all the actors. I think what we built up to
1501
01:21:26.550 --> 01:21:29.430
from the first four episodes allowed us to sit back
1502
01:21:29.489 --> 01:21:34.329
and enjoy all the places that this episode went. There's
1503
01:21:34.489 --> 01:21:38.569
clearly ramifications. I mean, so many people died. How much
1504
01:21:38.609 --> 01:21:41.760
of this is going to be about, did John and
1505
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:44.600
Hal go to prison? Because we see John in prison.
1506
01:21:44.659 --> 01:21:46.800
So are they in prison from what happened in the town?
1507
01:21:47.659 --> 01:21:49.890
I don't know. There's questions to be asked here. Excuse me,
1508
01:21:49.899 --> 01:21:52.340
questions to be asked here. What happens to both of
1509
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.189
them after what happened in the town and the aftermath
1510
01:21:55.229 --> 01:21:57.630
of the town? Is this all brushed away from, because
1511
01:21:57.810 --> 01:22:01.350
as blamed on a Manhunter, what is the reaction of
1512
01:22:01.489 --> 01:22:03.859
other people to what happened in this town? So there's
1513
01:22:03.899 --> 01:22:05.720
a lot of questions that we're going to have to
1514
01:22:05.739 --> 01:22:09.300
have answered that have happened over the last 10 years
1515
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:15.359
with John and Hal separately, with Carrie separately, with the
1516
01:22:15.420 --> 01:22:19.300
town separately, and overall its effect on the DC universe.
1517
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:20.720
I'll be curious to see what we're going to get
1518
01:22:21.220 --> 01:22:25.060
in the next three episodes. All right, thank you all
1519
01:22:25.100 --> 01:22:27.390
so much for joining me live tonight. My apologies for
1520
01:22:27.430 --> 01:22:30.569
leaving that picture up for so long while I talked
1521
01:22:30.649 --> 01:22:33.060
about it. What was going on? But as I said,
1522
01:22:33.090 --> 01:22:35.590
I'm a one man show. Sometimes I make little mistakes,
1523
01:22:35.729 --> 01:22:38.470
just like Leanna. I make little mistakes. Oh, and Leanna
1524
01:22:38.510 --> 01:22:41.369
is totally. We're going to find out there's a lot
1525
01:22:41.390 --> 01:22:43.409
of dirty shit with Leanna in the next three episodes.
1526
01:22:43.590 --> 01:22:45.029
I think we're just going to find out that she's
1527
01:22:45.409 --> 01:22:48.909
there's something nefarious that she's done. There's something she's trying
1528
01:22:48.930 --> 01:22:53.359
to hide because the ultimate people in power are the guardians. Right.
1529
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.960
And so this show is very much about exposing the
1530
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.449
corruption of people in higher power. And I think eventually
1531
01:23:00.489 --> 01:23:03.310
the Guardians are going to have to get brought to heel.
1532
01:23:04.180 --> 01:23:06.779
We're going to find out what Leanna's been doing, if
1533
01:23:06.819 --> 01:23:09.899
she's actually doing Guardian business or her own business. Because
1534
01:23:09.939 --> 01:23:12.960
remember what Hal said in the first episode, the Guardians
1535
01:23:13.020 --> 01:23:16.399
look at Earth, Sector 2814, I think it is, as
1536
01:23:16.460 --> 01:23:19.229
the backwater of the universe. So how many of the
1537
01:23:19.270 --> 01:23:22.270
other Guardians are really paying attention to what's going on
1538
01:23:22.649 --> 01:23:26.270
in the backwater of the universe? Probably not that many.
1539
01:23:26.449 --> 01:23:29.819
So Leanna is probably getting to run... roam free and
1540
01:23:29.859 --> 01:23:32.319
do what she wants to do here. So what is
1541
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:34.750
this all about? And how come John can only communicate
1542
01:23:34.770 --> 01:23:37.970
with Leanna through his parents? What is that all about?
1543
01:23:38.010 --> 01:23:41.289
Why can't John contact her directly? That's a very interesting
1544
01:23:41.329 --> 01:23:43.329
thing as well. So there's much more to find out
1545
01:23:43.890 --> 01:23:47.199
about Leanna as we go along. And Noah, of course.
1546
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.680
I think that Noah situation. And yeah, Eddie, good point.
1547
01:23:51.220 --> 01:23:55.539
There's no way that Jason Ritter took this job just
1548
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.100
to have three or four scenes in the first five episodes.
1549
01:23:58.529 --> 01:24:01.449
There's absolutely going to be more with him throughout the
1550
01:24:01.510 --> 01:24:04.489
next three episodes because it'll be about them raising Noah.
1551
01:24:05.329 --> 01:24:07.130
And what do they know about Noah? What does Noah
1552
01:24:07.149 --> 01:24:09.649
know about himself? And is Noah a Manhunter? So there's
1553
01:24:09.770 --> 01:24:11.829
all kinds of questions with Noah that we're going to
1554
01:24:11.869 --> 01:24:13.600
find out here as we go along. So it'll be
1555
01:24:13.609 --> 01:24:16.619
interesting to see. Yeah, Manhunters can't have kids, but remember
1556
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.920
she dropped that blood in John and essentially redid his
1557
01:24:19.939 --> 01:24:24.479
whole skin. So did their son die and she brought
1558
01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:27.340
their son back to life in some way? I don't know.
1559
01:24:27.539 --> 01:24:31.520
So there's questions to be asked about her connection with Noah.
1560
01:24:31.770 --> 01:24:33.569
You know, as I said, it's like Star Trek II.
1561
01:24:33.609 --> 01:24:36.689
She put her consciousness inside Noah to a degree by
1562
01:24:36.770 --> 01:24:39.670
grooming him. What is it that he knows? So we'll see.
1563
01:24:39.689 --> 01:24:42.229
We'll find out in the next few episodes for sure.
1564
01:24:42.250 --> 01:24:44.369
All right, again, thanks so much for joining me. Appreciate
1565
01:24:44.390 --> 01:24:46.630
y'all madly. Please make sure you hit a like on
1566
01:24:46.649 --> 01:24:50.229
this video. Hit subscribe here. Follow me at TheRodkaSays on
1567
01:24:50.289 --> 01:24:52.149
all my social media as well. And if you're watching
1568
01:24:52.170 --> 01:24:54.390
this later, hit that thanks button if you want to
1569
01:24:54.470 --> 01:24:58.550
send in some support or subscribe. And leave a comment
1570
01:24:58.569 --> 01:25:00.489
down below on all the things I talked about here
1571
01:25:00.909 --> 01:25:03.310
and all the questions people asked throughout the stream. Love
1572
01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:05.810
to get your thoughts. Appreciate you all madly. Look for
1573
01:25:05.850 --> 01:25:08.359
my spoiler review with the Geek Buddies coming up sometime
1574
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:12.119
this week, either tomorrow or probably Wednesday. And we'll break
1575
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:15.600
it down even more. And maybe I'll go live tomorrow
1576
01:25:15.619 --> 01:25:18.819
night with an episode of a show or I won't.
1577
01:25:18.859 --> 01:25:20.979
We'll see. But, of course, I'll be on Christian's show tomorrow.
1578
01:25:21.590 --> 01:25:23.670
at 9 a.m., so join me for that as well.
1579
01:25:23.770 --> 01:25:25.250
And the Geek Buddies, as I said, the hot mic
1580
01:25:25.310 --> 01:25:29.630
possibly coming back this week. And spill the tequila on
1581
01:25:29.649 --> 01:25:31.789
Tuesday night. Winston and I are certainly going to have
1582
01:25:31.810 --> 01:25:33.789
a lot to talk about with the Dallas Cowboys losing
1583
01:25:34.270 --> 01:25:37.229
and my Washington Commanders losing. Although I would say us
1584
01:25:37.310 --> 01:25:40.260
losing on the road to Philadelphia by only two points
1585
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.840
because we had a two-point conversion and stuff is much
1586
01:25:42.899 --> 01:25:46.159
more respectable than losing to the Giants as the Cowboys
1587
01:25:46.220 --> 01:25:48.899
just did, who are a much inferior team. So, All right,
1588
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:50.539
take care of yourselves. Be well, have a great night,
1589
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:52.899
and I'll talk to you next time with another brand
1590
01:25:52.970 --> 01:25:55.229
new spoiler review episode. I'm doing them every week here
1591
01:25:55.670 --> 01:25:58.710
on Sunday nights for Lanterns. Take care until then. Have
1592
01:25:58.729 --> 01:25:59.609
a great night, everybody.