Things Are Changing in Our Shops… Fast

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Hello everyone and welcome to the Impractical Machinist Podcast.
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My name is Patrick with Pine Knot Manufacturing.
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I'm Cameron from Machining at School.
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I'm Bradley with Marvel Machining.
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On this episode, we're going to talk about some exciting new things at each of our shops.
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But first, we're recapping the amazing experience that we had at IMTS 2026.
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Well, boys, first time uh with the gang back together after IMTS.
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How are we feeling?
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Terrible.
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You know, it's funny.
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It it it's only, you know, it's been two weeks.
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Like Friday, two weeks ago was when I think all of us left the show.
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Um it it doesn't it doesn't feel like it.
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It feels like a distant memory, but man, it was a good one.
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Was it two weeks ago?
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Yeah.
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Or was it a week ago?
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Two weeks.
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Dang.
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I know, right?
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I thought it was last week for some reason.
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Yeah, it's it's crazy.
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What was that?
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Because you listen to the podcast about IMTS last week.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So yeah, it uh we'll we'll kind of cover like the show afterward.
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Um I encourage everybody to go back and and watch the last episode, specifically watch uh for one, just it's it was it was really cool to actually be you know together with you guys up on stage, uh doing that live, um, plus the little funny bit that I did with the tattoo sleeves.
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I think it was pretty funny.
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I think that yeah, what's funny is so people who actually know who we are and who actually listen to the podcast and everything, they'll probably think it's pretty funny.
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But the people that were there whenever it happened, like actually in front of us while we were recording, were so indifferent about it, they're just like, what is going on here?
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So I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't think they really knew the backstory for any of that, but no, but that's okay.
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Yeah, um, I ain't Halloween yet, Pat.
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Right.
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Well, that's what you should be for Halloween, you should just be Brad.
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Oh, that's an amazing idea.
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You got 30 days to grow a beard, can you do it?
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No, buy a Santa Claus beard and spray paint it brown.
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Brown a little bit.
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Dye it with some uh just for men.
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I wonder if that would work.
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Oh my goodness.
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Um wow, yeah, no, it's uh uh as far as uh at the show.
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Um I do want to say again, everybody that came up to to me and was grateful for what we do and and thankful for our content, it really means a lot.
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It really does.
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Um it gave me a huge boost of like motivation to keep doing the podcast and do more uh for for the channel and and more just different things, try to change things up a little bit.
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I've got I've got some ideas in the works.
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Um and yeah, it just the the vibe that we had was just I think was amazing.
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The positive um community feeling that we had.
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Uh I think it was different.
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Uh you go to most booths there, it's it's I mean, they're there to sell a product, right?
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And we're there to help bring everybody together and and have a good time.
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And the happy hours were crazy.
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Yeah.
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I didn't expect that many people to show up.
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Not me, no, especially to the sessions.
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Yeah.
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But sitting up there looking when we were on, and all of a sudden there was like more people showing up, people standing around us, like, oh shit.
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Yeah, people, people in all the seats, and people standing around those people, and then more people kind of just gathering around the wall of the like that outside wall of the booth.
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Yeah, there was over 60 people at the biggest one, which I think I think was the one that it was uh Ian, Justin, and Brad um about starting a shop.
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Yeah like I tried to do a head count, and yeah, it was it was insane.
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Yeah.
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Um I don't know, 60 people may not sound like a lot, but when you see that space and how small it is, it's a lot of people.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, we and we only had seating for like 20.
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Yeah.
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So you had more people standing watching, which from what some of the guys that have been to to you know a lot of shows were telling me, people don't do that at trade shows.
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You you you see it, you glance at it, and you walk by.
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But there are a lot of people that were just standing there watching.
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And I remember looking out at that one and making eye contact with people, and it's like, man, you guys are actually paying attention to this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I remember like during pretty much every live panel I did looking around at people because you get caught up looking at the people you're talking to, and mentally I'd be like, I haven't looked at anybody in a while.
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I need to actually look out.
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And so I'd look out, and then those people just sitting there staring at you, making eye contact, and like actually, like you said, they're actually paying attention.
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Like, yeah, not like sitting on their phones or anything.
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There's there was a guy, I think his name was Fabian, Fabian.
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Fabian.
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Uh he was there at like every session.
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And I I remember, I think I sat and talked to him for like 45 minutes about uh if I remember right, he wants to go from having manual machines and take the jump to get a CNC machine of some kind.
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So he was picking my brain about, you know, what do I need?
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What should I look at?
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All this, and like it was fun.
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Yeah.
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And I'm also sitting back thinking, man, there's a lot better people to ask this question than me, but hey, I'll I'll do my best.
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Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, uh the the presence was just crazy.
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And uh were you guys nervous doing the the live sessions?
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I was I was before the first one.
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And then I mean the pressure's still on every time you do one, so like every anytime I would go to say something, yeah.
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Right now we're recording, but it doesn't feel like we're recording because we're just talking to each other.
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You know, we're sitting in our my basement, your shops, and it's easy.
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But whenever you're sitting on a stage holding a microphone in front of a bunch of people and recording, you have to it's like there's a whole nother layer that all my thoughts have to go through before I say something.
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I'm like processing everything and like, all right, don't say something stupid.
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Don't say something you shouldn't say, because also you can't edit anything here.
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That's right.
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Once it's out, it's out.
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So I don't know.
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It was that part was more difficult.
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I was a little nervous before the first one.
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You know, it's like, oh crap, I'm gonna be up there in front of these people.
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Yeah, not looking forward to that.
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And then you get up there and it's fine.
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I remember when I got off of the first session, I don't even remember who it was.
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I walked off and I'm like, You swore a lot.
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I mean, that's you want authentic, yeah.
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That's the Marvel guarantee right there.
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Yeah.
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I do I do remember the one where we were doing how you start up a shop, and there that one had a lot of people.
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I think that had the most people there.
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Yeah.
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And I remember make looking out, and Zap was standing there, and he was like paying attention, and they came to questions.
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I was like, God damn it, he raised his hand.
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I'm like, this motherfucker's gonna ask a hard question.
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And not that it was a hard question, it was a good question.
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Like he was obviously paying attention, yeah, and it was it was a super valid question.
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I was like, motherfucker.
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I was talking, I didn't really realize he was there.
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I was talking to somebody off to the side, then I heard you say, Thanks for that question, Zap.
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I was like, Oh shit, Zap, what did he ask you?
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Uh, the question was if you if you could start over, if you were to walk into your shop and there were no machines in it and you had unlimited money, would you buy the same equipment?
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Yeah.
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Not what would you buy?
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Okay.
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And then I mean it was a good question because we were talking about starting a machine shop and what what would you do different?
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And it's you know, if you if you have unlimited money, would you buy the same equipment you already have or would you buy something else?
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Obviously, I would buy something else, but then it was what brand would you buy too?
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So tough to decide on anything like that.
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Yeah.
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But I I mean I think I think I said I'd I'd probably focus if I was to walk in and have a blank canvas and buy any machine I wanted, I would focus on five-axis automation.
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Honestly, I appreciate that Zap and Dylan both were there.
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You know, yeah.
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I mean, like I I got I just basically just said hi to Zap.
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He was he's busy, but uh I talked to Dylan for a little bit.
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It kind of funny.
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I saw him over there, I was I was watching your guy's session, and I walk I saw his Dylan and I walked over to him and I basically just stood by him.
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I didn't say hi, I just like I was like a foot from him, stood by him, and and I saw him, he uh he noticed that somebody was near him, so he went, he he turned, turned to him, he turned back, and he's like, did a double take, and he's like, Oh, hey man.
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I tell you, that was the funny thing.
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Uh, we talked about this beforehand, because while Dylan gave us that warning, Ian gave us that warning.
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There were so many people that walk up to us and are like, Hey, Patrick, how's it going?
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And I'm like, hey, who are you?
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Yeah, look down at the badge and hope it's not covered up.
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Uh Phil, you I don't know if you guys both know Phil Dervis, but um, he was that way.
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He came up to me Monday and he didn't really say anything.
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He just like shook my hand or gave me a fist bump or something, and I didn't know who he was.
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I just saw he worked for Methods.
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And I was like, okay, cool.
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But his badge was turned around.
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And it was like Friday, he came back with another guy that I I did recognize, and I'm like, oh my god, that was Phil.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Kiwi was the same way.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Nobody's doing who I am, and then I I took a picture with him, I posted and tagged him, and he commented.
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He said, Now everybody knows what I look like.
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I've got a great picture of him.
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It was it was so when he landed on Sunday, he we were messaging each other, and he they they had already went and got something to eat or whatever.
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He asked what I was doing.
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I was like, Oh, I'm going to this bar to meet up with this guy.
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He's like, I was like, go there, I'll meet you there.
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And uh I get there and he looked like absolute shit.
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He had been flying for like or traveling for like 30 or 40 hours, hadn't slept at all, and immediately landed and went out to the bars.
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He was time traveling.
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Yeah, that's right.
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He traveled back in time.
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So he when he leaves, it's like a 20-30 hour trip.
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So technically he's a day ahead, but because of the time difference, he's two days behind.
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I don't even know, man.
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So like he if he leaves Monday morning, he arrives Tuesday, but our time was actually Sunday or some shit.
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I don't know.
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Didn't make any fucking sense to me.
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Wow.
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Like, so you you you gain days when you go somewhere and then you go back home.
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Are you like four days forward?
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I don't know.
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I have no idea, man.
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I crossed one time zone to get to Chicago.
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So did you watch your phone time change?
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We were like, what the fuck just happened?
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I'll tell you, well, what's funny, like I don't live that far from where Central Time starts.
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Like I can drive like 30 miles and I'm in Central Time.
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Um, but what's funny is going through, I think Indiana, it kept it was like flipping back and forth.
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Because I think Indiana certain can't most of the state doesn't observe daylight savings time or something like that.
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So yeah, it's really strange.
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So good for them.
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Yeah, honestly.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, yeah, it was kind of funny.
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Like the the trip, like we got into um Kentucky, and you know, for the most part we were in central time, southern Indiana.
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I think we were still in central time, and then all of a sudden we're back to what we would be at home.
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And it changed our uh what was funny is I was running a little late.
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I suppose drop the rental car off at like 4:30, and it was for most of the trip it was saying that our arrival time was gonna be like 520, 515, 520.
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And then we get into like Upper Indiana and it's it's back an hour, and yeah, we got there about 415.
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Yeah.
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Central time.
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It it was it was really funny.
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And then don't get me started on the return trip.
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I'm sure I'm not the first person to drive home from IMTS in a U-Haul.
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Uh, you might be.
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I I'd like to think somebody has bought something at the show and and brought it home in a U-Haul, but all I had was all my wife's merch.
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Yeah.
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Whatever she's got the uh most collected merch of all time.
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I'd say she's up there.
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Whenever y'all were talking about not being able to find a car home, I was thinking of like a U-Haul pickup, but then you ended up with an actual box track.
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I was like, oh fuck.
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Oh, dude, it was all the keychains would have been flying.
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Oh, I know.
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You know what?
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We uh the way I packed it in, nothing moved.
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Did uh which is surprising.
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No, I I was hoping to get like a van, but they don't do vans as a one-way rental.
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You gotta return them.
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Um so the funny thing with that, I'm sure people are gonna be wondering.
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Um I rented a car to go up there and I didn't I don't know.
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I I just didn't pre-register one back.
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Yeah, I did I didn't do do one for the way back just because I didn't truthfully, I didn't know when I was actually gonna leave the show.
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Like that that hadn't been established yet.
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Um I also didn't know where would be a good place to pick a car up.
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Well, I got distracted with everything, you know, going out to eat at night and the show and everything.
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So it was like Wednesday night, I realized, oh crap, I still need to find a way home.
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So I started looking at it, and like Thursday morning, I'm in a full-on panic because I I cannot, like I go on Enterprise's website and because that's the only car rental that's like within an hour of me at home.
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So I can't get a rental from uh from Chicago to uh the towns near me.
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Um so I asked Marco to help me, our media director, because he's you know he's good with that, and he goes to Expedia, and he can't either.
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The best he could get was um Chicago to Nashville, which is still three hours away.
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Um and then we were looking at like a bus from Nashville to Knoxville, and then I'm still an hour from home.
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So we we thought about it like a flight.
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There's issues with a flight, like my wife and I don't have real, excuse me, we don't have real ID, so it's$90 to cover that fee.
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Uh and then booking a flight that was basically day after next was really expensive.
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It was like$1,400.
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So I started looking at the U-Haul thing because that was basically my only option.
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And it's I mean, it was quite a bit less, even with fuel, it was quite a bit less.
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Um and honestly, it wasn't that bad.
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Like from a ride perspective.
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Um I think I think I figured out I really prefer the the ride and feel of a truck versus a car.
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I did too.
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Because even in a U-Haul, I mean it it wasn't bad.
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I drove the whole way.
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My wife and I swapped on the way up because it was just it was a little crossover SEB type thing.
00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.519
Um the U-Haul truck, I drove all the way home because it was different.
00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.600
The mirrors are different and everything.
00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.559
Um it was it wasn't bad.
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Did you did you figure out what kind of fuel mileage you were getting?
00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:21.360
Oh, it wasn't great.
00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:32.480
Um, I don't know what the MPG was, but it was it was probably I think I spent$160 in fuel, which really isn't bad.
00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:34.480
But just to get home?
00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:36.000
Yeah, it really wasn't bad.
00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:37.759
Damn.
00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:43.440
Mind you, I mean, like especially through Indiana, gas was a lot cheaper.
00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.600
Um, but even like down here, I even I actually used the U-Haul.
00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:51.039
I I got the rest of the stuff that we had stored at my at my mom's house.
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So I made use of it too.
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Uh and even with that trip and then filling it up before I brought it back, yeah, it was like$160 worth of of fuel.
00:16:59.360 --> 00:16:59.519
Yeah.
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How far of a drive was that?
00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:03.279
Let me look it up.
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I think 350 miles.
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Miles.
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How many, how many hours?
00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:10.720
Uh nine.
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Uh like nine and a half to ten.
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Oh, oh my god, 583 miles.
00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.839
I was about to say that had to have been more than 350.
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I'm I'm dumb.
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Yeah, about nine, nine and a half hours.
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My drive is about 450 miles one way.
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Yeah.
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Of course, you got that.
00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.519
Well, I mean, you haul ain't no, I mean, it's about as aerodynamic as a brick.
00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:40.960
So I mean, I saw there and back, I filled up three times.
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Oof.
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But that was so I filled up like the day before, and then I think somewhere outside of Chicago, I filled up, and then I think I made it almost all the way home and I filled up too.
00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.599
So I mean it was really probably half to get there.
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I think I averaged like 19 miles a gallon.
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But I was also doing 90, 100 the whole way, too.
00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:05.680
Yeah.
00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:08.720
It's it's nice.
00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:13.039
I mean, yeah, diesel's more expensive, but at least you get better mileage in a diesel truck.
00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.880
Um that diesel got more expensive as I got closer.
00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:17.920
Yeah, I'm sure it didn't.
00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.319
What kind of mileage does your truck get?
00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:23.680
My Chevrolet?
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Yeah.
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Oh god, like have you ever calculated it?
00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.880
Yeah, it's like maybe 12 if I do a lot of highway driving.
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Yeah.
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Really?
00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:32.720
Oh, yeah.
00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.440
It's I mean So what year is your truck?
00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:36.960
Uh 96.
00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:37.680
Okay.
00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:42.559
Mine's a mine my truck's a 2021, and I get like 14 and a half.
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Is that diesel?
00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:46.000
So it's huh?
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Is that diesel?
00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:48.319
No, it's a gas 1500.
00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.480
Basically the a 25-year later version of his truck.
00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:52.799
Yeah.
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And I get two miles a gallon better.
00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:56.240
Yeah.
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Man, my my 54 Chevy's got a the 5.3.
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I get 18 in that.
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Yeah.
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And that's a 04.
00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:07.920
That's from a 04 Silverado.
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Nice.
00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:09.359
Yeah.
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Aerodynamics are probably a little better.
00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:18.079
Granted, so like that 14 and a half is going back and forth to work every day with cruise control set at 72.
00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.119
So is that is that showing your average?
00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:21.680
Yeah.
00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:22.079
Yeah.
00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:23.119
That's my average.
00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:25.359
So, and that's hills too.
00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:30.160
So, like, if I go down to Atlanta, it's mostly downhill or flat the whole way there.
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I can get like 16 or 17 going down there.
00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:35.119
Yeah.
00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:46.799
My my friend Mark has a he's got a 2011 or 2012 F-150, and it's although I think it's a s it might be a six-cylinder.
00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.440
But I think he gets like 19 to 20.
00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:55.839
Yeah, I think mine, my diesel, my cruise control, I can only set it to 85.
00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:57.359
Nothing over that will set.
00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:01.440
Uh if I set it to 85 and cruise, I can get it at 88.
00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:02.079
Really?
00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:02.720
Yeah.
00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:08.319
My my cruise is I can get like 19, 20, 21.
00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.799
But back back when I had a Duramax, I'd get like 26 miles a gallon.
00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:13.359
Really?
00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:13.920
Yeah.
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:14.720
That's great.
00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:23.279
So before I had all my shit deleted and tuned, I was probably averaging like 13, 14, no matter what.
00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:24.240
Yeah.
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:28.880
That's how well mine, it was a 2003, so it never had any emission stuff.
00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.720
But before tuning it, I'd get like 1920, 21.
00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:38.319
After tuning it, I'd get like 23, 24, 25, 26, kind of depending on what I was doing.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:44.559
And I I'm sure like with my my Chevrolet, I I know I could probably do some things to it to get it better.
00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.599
Because I mean it's got 292,000 miles on it.
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:48.000
Yeah.
00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.119
You know, I I'm sure it ain't got the compression that it used to.
00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:53.680
For that old of a truck, though.
00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:54.160
Yeah.
00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:55.200
No.
00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:55.920
No.
00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.279
It's I'm gonna keep that thing as long as I can.
00:20:59.359 --> 00:20:59.680
I love it.
00:20:59.839 --> 00:20:59.920
Yeah.
00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.559
And I just pulled over 200 on my 17.
00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:03.440
Oh wow.
00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.559
I'm about to break 100 on my 2021.
00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:08.880
Yeah.
00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:14.000
Um well, yeah, we'll move a little bit of a tangent there.
00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:14.559
Yeah.
00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:17.279
That's what people expect by this point.
00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.240
I I got I got something to share for IMTS.
00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.279
I gotta share my screen.
00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:24.000
So when I hit play, make sure you can hear it.
00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:28.720
Out of all of our practical machinist contributors, you know, who has the biggest ego?
00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:30.160
Big ego, huh?
00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:36.799
Let me think about uh I mean you're kind of aggressive, but you know, Pat's got a big ego on the thing.
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:38.559
Like he's he's so cocky about it.
00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:39.759
You know, he's just like, you know what?
00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:40.720
I don't like my job.
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.720
I'm just gonna quit my job and start a shop.
00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:43.440
It's so easy.
00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:43.839
You know?
00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:44.960
Yeah.
00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:46.319
I think he's got a pretty big ego.
00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:50.400
Which practical machine as contributor has the biggest ego?
00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.880
If I had to guess, I would say it's definitely Patrick.
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:55.519
Patrick.
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:59.759
He is uh on one for sure, you know, asking everybody who do you?
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.519
Think of the practical machinist contributors has the biggest ego?
00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:05.599
Oh, definitely Patrick.
00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:06.480
Definitely.
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:07.759
Definitely Patrick.
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:08.400
What?
00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.839
Which one of us practical machinists have the biggest ego?
00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.000
Come on, you're gonna get me in trouble.
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:24.640
Uh well, you know, I've actually gotten to know a lot of you guys a lot better this week, and I mean I can't even believe I'm gonna say this, but like it's you would not think this, but it's it's kind of gotta be Patrick.
00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:27.200
What the dick?
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.680
Yeah, that's what I would have to say.
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:31.440
Oh, Patrick, without a doubt.
00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:35.039
Super knowledge, just started a shot out on his own, knows it all.
00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:36.799
He's he's got this down pat.
00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:38.559
100% Patrick.
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:40.799
He's so difficult to be around.
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:43.599
He's been a diva ever since we started the podcast.
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.599
Patrick is a bit of a diva.
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:46.000
Yeah.
00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:50.160
Guy comes from the country, goes to the big city, all of a sudden, what do you do?
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:51.920
We got a question for you.
00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:52.160
All right.
00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.720
Out of all of us practical machinists, you know, each and every one of us, who has the biggest ego?
00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:58.559
Oh boy.
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:00.079
Pat.
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:00.799
Pat?
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:01.359
Yeah.
00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:02.319
Why do you think Pat?
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.279
Nobody knew it but after MTS, it just became like a different person.
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.240
He's doing it.
00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:11.279
Big ego.
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:18.079
We're asking each of us practical machinist contributors who we think has the biggest ego out of all of us.
00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.039
Immediately, to be honest.
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:25.440
You.
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:26.319
Me?
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:27.440
What am I?
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:29.279
I don't know, man.
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.720
You just the way that you uh conduct yourself online.
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.039
Listen, you're the best guy in the world in person.
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:44.480
You're online just fighting people all the time and making sure people know how much you love Camworks, and it's just it's hilarious.
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:45.680
The best thing ever.
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:46.240
Alright.
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:47.359
I love you, man.
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.400
Thank you.
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:53.680
I need a minute.
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:54.880
Oh my God.
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.039
Okay.
00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:58.640
What do you think of that, Peter?
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:00.640
It's incredible.
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:02.240
Don't roll up on us now.
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:03.759
Yeah, right, right.
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.759
Holy crap.
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.039
I I had no idea that's where you were going when you asked me that.
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:10.799
I felt so bad.
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:12.960
Because I I took it seriously.
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:14.720
And I I mean.
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.200
Well, like it's you and I.
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:21.920
Yeah.
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.519
Uh me by a large margin, apparently.
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:26.960
Just two big egos.
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:28.799
I'm just here to balance y'all out.
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:30.240
That's right.
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:32.559
Oh, that's incredible.
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:34.960
The oh.
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:37.279
Wow.
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.880
So on that on that note, holy smokes.
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:48.880
Um the the thing that we were doing asking people like what does a high feed mill sound like?
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.920
That was really fun.
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.160
Honestly, that stumped me.
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:57.680
I've only used a high feed mill once, and I I didn't obviously have the right feeds and speeds.
00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:59.920
You don't use high feed mills in aluminum.
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.799
And she asked that, and I was like, What the fuck?
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.759
Like, I have no idea what it's even supposed to sound like.
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.319
You haven't been watching my posts, huh?
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:09.359
Not with sound.
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.039
I don't ever watch anything with sound.
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:11.839
What?
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.359
But I'm scrolling through Instagram, the sound is off.
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:16.319
What?
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.200
I'm worried I'm gonna scroll by my podcast and hear myself talking.
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.119
Oh, that's great.
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.759
Most of the time I'm scrolling, I'm standing at the machine, and the machine's loud as shit anyway, so I can hear it.
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.119
So it's yeah.
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.559
Oh god, that was funny.
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:43.599
Um so but yeah, it so that does give me the thought of I I want to try to do more stuff like that.
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.720
Yeah, I don't know how when we're not like all together.
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:51.519
Um, but I think that's our content doesn't have to be serious all the time.
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.559
You know, it can be fun, it can be funny.
00:25:54.799 --> 00:26:07.599
Um because I think I think taking a lighthearted approach is is helpful because like you you balance out all the all the negative Nancy's on Facebook and stuff like that, you know, um with humor.
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.119
Yep.
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.319
My jaw hurts from laughing at that so hard.
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:15.839
Holy crap.
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.000
Not what you were expecting?
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.000
No, not at all.
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:21.119
Oh my gosh.
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.279
So obviously I need an attitude adjustment.
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:23.839
Yep.
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.200
Oh uh so moving on.
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:34.480
Um the anything else we need to say about IMTS guys?
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:37.119
No.
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.799
See in two years.
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:39.920
Huh?
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.160
Well, we're at C in two years.
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:42.559
Yeah.
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:43.599
Yeah, that's right.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:44.880
See you guys in two years.
00:26:45.039 --> 00:27:00.640
I mean, I will say, I I mean, no, no promises, but I think the the incredible presence that we had I think will make it possible to where maybe we can do some stuff in between, even if it's just local.
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:01.359
Yeah.
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:03.119
Um, we'll see.
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:14.400
But um I I I really think we've made a good impact there uh with just helping to actually bring the community together.
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.839
Um and just I mean, that's what we need.
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.519
We we need some unity.
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:24.000
Um and I think it's only up from here.
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:54.079
To me, like for practical machinist side of things, to go from you know, IMTS 2024, it basically was Ian running around with a camera crew, and you guys were there, but not really on their behalf, to this crazy booth with a beautiful mural and all these people working the booth, and I don't know, hundreds, if not over a thousand people a day coming through.
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:55.599
It's crazy.
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:57.440
Crazy.
00:27:58.160 --> 00:27:58.640
Yep.
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:00.559
So the painting was awesome.
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:01.359
It was cool.
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:03.839
It really was.
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.519
Yeah, I didn't I didn't expect that.
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:13.200
It's crazy that like in five days it went from just a blank, literally just a white blank canvas to that.
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:16.799
I can't believe they did that in five days.
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.440
Yeah, I think they started on Thursday the previous week and worked Thursday, Friday.
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:27.119
Uh-and they finished it up the next week on Wednesday during IMTS.
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:42.559
I I will also say um talking to Lee, the guy that was doing our microphones, um uh I guess he he works at uh like McCormick place, I guess, as a as a worker, as a union guy or whatever.
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:49.599
And he was telling me that um after Sunday, within four days, the whole place will be down to bare concrete.
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:50.079
Yeah.
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.240
And that's wild.
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:53.119
Yeah.
00:28:53.440 --> 00:29:02.880
The the amount of work that went into building all that and bringing the machines in and all the lights and and you know, some of those booths were very nice.
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:08.559
You know, YG, Heimer, Kinemetal, a lot of the big players had really cool booths.
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.720
I mean, think about all the machines, man.
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.000
Like you got to get all the coolant out of those machines.
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:19.359
Again, I mean, if you got people that can do it, then it's not that big of a deal to get a machine out, I guess.
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.480
But I don't know, some of those can probably be a huge pain.
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:28.160
But if you got a good way to get coolant out of it, then at that point you're just disconnecting lines and connectors and moving shit.
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:29.359
So maybe it's not that bad.
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.200
Install shipping brackets.
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:32.960
Uh there's just a lot.
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.119
The volume is what's crazy.
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:36.160
Oh, yeah.
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:43.519
Especially because it's not like it's not like the the machine area was full of like VF2s.
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.000
No, there was some massive machines in there.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:46.799
Well, yeah, that's true.
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.160
I mean, you think of like some big five-axis machines with pallet pools and everything.
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.960
Granted, taking it apart is easier than putting it together.
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.440
I'm curious how long the setup takes.
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.319
Yeah, you guys, I mean, are they leveling it?
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:04.640
Or is it just kind of a I mean, I would imagine they're at least aligning the machines decently.
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:12.000
You know, because they're cutting live and like you're going through the full articulation of all the axes on a lot of those machines.
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.519
So if you have stuff too far out of alignment, you're gonna have issues, I would imagine.
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:25.200
Yeah, I'd assume they align it close, but I mean, how are they actually I mean, because I know some of them 5X machines take a long time to I mean, they were gonna find doing my UMC for like three fucking days.
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.000
Right.
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:36.079
I mean, the first the first time they did it and it wasn't right, it only took them a few hours, but like well, maybe if you're just cutting test shit at shows, yeah.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:42.000
I will I'm not gonna call it the company, but I grabbed uh I grabbed a part they were cutting, and there were some steps on them.
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:43.200
There were some bad blends on it.
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:44.880
I I was playing with them when I was walking through.
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.880
I'm like, god damn, like why won't you fix that?
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:47.680
Yeah.
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.839
Yeah, are they so are they sitting on top of the carpet or do they sit directly on the concrete?
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.480
It seems like they're all just sitting on carpet.
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.240
It does, unless they're cutting holes in every piece, but yeah.
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.559
That thick ass carpet though, if you have a machine sitting on that, there's no way.
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:18.240
Well, when uh Pat at all boys and I were going around the machine uh hall, south hall, um there was one we stopped by as a big five-axis mill, and you could feel it in the floor.
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:26.400
Yeah, like when it would do a big like uh the head, it was a the head would move when it would move, like make a big rapid move, you could feel it.
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.759
So not even cutting, just doing rapid moves.
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:31.519
Yeah, yeah, just doing a move, yeah.
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.480
Damn.
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:33.440
I know.
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.240
Uh and I'm sure it was a very heavy machine, but you could still feel it.
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.240
Um yeah, it's kind of wild.
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:46.319
Think about some of the machines like a like a brother Speedio doing you know a demo.
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.920
They're hauling ass on one of those things.
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.720
I'd imagine that thing would be scooting around.
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:57.599
Yeah, I mean, machines like that should be bolted at the floor, which I'm sure I wouldn't think they would do that.
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.920
Cause like I mean, once you drill a hole in the concrete, like I doubt they'll let them.
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:02.880
Yeah.
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.920
Yeah, that place would be sick if you were to get everything out of there and set up like a drift track.
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:10.400
Yeah.
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:11.200
Oh, yeah.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:12.640
Yeah, that would be cool.
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:14.960
Yeah, we want to get some of those drift trikes.
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:16.400
You ever seen those?
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.599
So they'll they'll basically take a motorized trike.
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:20.640
It's like a big wheel.
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:31.680
Like we I don't know if she had one as a kid or not, but so it's like the big wheel you sit down and it's got like go-kart back wheels on it, essentially, and then a big front wheel, single front wheel, handlebars.
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:42.319
And so they basically set them up like a go-kart with like a go-kart engine on them, and then you deflate the tires a little bit, put PVC pipes over the tires and inflate them back so the PVC is stuck on it.
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.480
So it just spins the tires everywhere you go.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.799
So you drift all over the place in one of those.
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:48.960
Oh, that would be cool.
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.079
So that's what we want to get for our new shop.
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:53.759
Yeah.
00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:02.079
Um, I and I I also I I do want to say, uh, you know, I I brought my wife with me and she had a great time too.
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:08.799
And I I I'm grateful to everybody that helped uh help make it a good experience for her.
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.880
Because a lot of people are telling me, dude, don't bring your wife, she she won't enjoy it.
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.960
They don't realize like my wife thinks machining is cool, you know.
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:21.680
Yeah, that's right.
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:22.960
Work wife.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:28.720
Um, but no, uh, she, I mean, that's why she's out here in the shop helping me all the time.
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:35.200
So um, no, other other than one booth, she uh she really enjoyed everything.
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:44.720
She enjoyed being at our booth, she enjoyed going around and stealing all kinds of merch from everybody, um the stupid giant banana, all that.
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.799
Yeah, it was funny.
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.440
I like every time she'd come back to the booth, I'd see her loaded down with merch with a new hat on.
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:52.319
Yep.
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:52.960
Yep.
00:33:53.119 --> 00:34:03.519
She was she was teasing uh Bev because she just found she just kept cracking up at every every time that Lisa would come back, uh she had a different hat on.
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:08.880
And I just I think she ended up with like 17 hats by the end of it.
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:09.920
Oh man.
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.280
Yeah, it's we've still got stuff laying around in the loop in the living room over there.
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:19.840
Um but yeah, that that was that was great.
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.199
Now, will we do that again?
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.079
No, probably not.
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.159
Like that was a one-time thing.
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.480
Uh what, collecting all that stuff?
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:35.679
Yeah, next time might get like if there's something cool, like pens or you know, some cool hats, we'll get that, but not not like we did.
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.119
Not like she did.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.960
And then we won't need the U-Haul.
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:51.039
The first time I went there, I I was I ended up at Booths and I grabbed random stuff, but it's stuff that I mean I gotta I gotta ban of stuff that it ends up in, and then probably in three years I'll throw it away.
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:51.840
Yeah.
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:52.880
Yeah.
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:00.320
Well, fellas, uh I think we've done a pretty good job with recapping IMTS.
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.960
Uh we've said all that needs to be said, um, so we can kind of move on to just what's new with our shops.
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:11.760
We we haven't really talked about what's up with with our shops in a bit.
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.800
Um I guess I'll start with myself.
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.960
Um I think I said it on the last episode that we did at the show.
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.719
I'm I'm full-time now.
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.239
Uh quit my job.
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.320
Yeah, quit my job uh back in August.
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:27.760
So I mean it's been a while.
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.119
And it's been great.
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.599
I I have absolutely no complaints.
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.599
Um got you know, I've got a decent amount of work that's come in.
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.599
I've had a lot of support along the way, and I just it's been fantastic.
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:47.920
I I can feel like my soul healing from all the agony that I had at you know my last job.
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:58.239
Um and uh I mean my my wife's told me I'm like I'm almost a different person now, and in a good way.
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.960
This what came?
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:02.159
Nothing.
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:03.039
No.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.440
This this week has not been a great week, though.
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:20.480
Um I have so I have a customer, not gonna say who, because it's resolved and I I'm not upset about it in any way, but I have had my first late payment.
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.880
Um already?
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:24.239
Yeah, I know.
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.239
Um, but it's okay because it's should be on the way.
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.559
I think it's probably be here today.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.679
Um and again, I'm not mad about it.
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:38.880
It if it was like a substantial amount of money, I would be, but it's it's not that big a deal.
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:47.440
It's it it's different when you look at um dealing with I don't know, it's a shop, but it's also a guy.
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:52.000
And it's probably silly of me to do it, but I look at it a little differently.
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:59.039
If it was a bigger company that was late paying me, I'd be like, what this is straight BS.
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:05.360
You know, you're raking in all, you know, you're a bigger company, but you can't pay me.
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:11.920
When it's one guy, or even if it's just like I one guy with a shop, I I get it.
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:21.039
I mean, so I I don't know who it is, but I know like even for me as one guy, sometimes I think early on I would do it.
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.320
I would push off paying, I would get an invoice, okay.
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:30.239
Well, I gotta pay that in 30 days, and then I would that email would be fucking gone and I'd forget about it.
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.719
So the the habit I've got into is I use my online banking system now.
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.880
Um so as soon as an invoice comes in, I just schedule it.
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.719
Or it send it right away, depending on what it is.
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:43.679
Yeah.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.920
Honestly I'm actually scheduling one right now as we're doing it.
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:49.039
Nice.
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:50.639
That's why I thought about it.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:59.039
I uh right now, I mean, everything that I'm spending money on is is just runs through a credit card.
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:04.960
I don't I don't I don't have terms set up with anybody, and I'm kind of resistant to that for that reason.
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.199
I want to make sure that I'm paying people.
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:17.519
Um I will say the only thing that is nice with terms is some of them, like my material vendors, the terms are if you pay within 10 days, you get a discount.
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:26.880
It's not much, but if you're saving ten dollars on every invoice and you have a hundred invoice, it's gonna add up over time.
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.440
That's the only thing that's nice about it.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.920
But like I have them set up just so I can and I just schedule them right away.
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.719
They they go out right away, they're paid within a week anyway.
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:37.199
Yeah.
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:45.519
So if you if you ever do need the terms and you need to buy twenty thousand dollars worth of material and you don't want to pay for it right away, you have that option.
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.440
Yeah, that's true.
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.760
Yeah, I I should look into that.
00:38:49.920 --> 00:39:00.239
Um, because I I actually just uh I mean all the material I bought for for my shop has been McMaster, except uh I just recently bought from Cincinnati Tool Steel.
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:07.360
Uh, and and they actually wanted to set me up with terms, but I was like, yeah, let's let's just run it through a card for right now.
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.639
Because it wasn't it's not like it was a huge purchase, it was like$150.
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.960
But it saved me like$800 versus what McMaster would have been.
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.199
Yeah um so so there's that.
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:28.559
Um the other thing I'll say too is if you get set up terms, at some point you'll have customers that want indice references too that they'll want to reach out to.
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:35.679
I mean, obviously you can use me or Cam, but sometimes it's nice to have a material supply or finisher that you've been paying.
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:36.159
Yeah.
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:37.840
Good to know.
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.760
Yeah, that's any it's all stuff.
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.840
Pretty much anytime we start with a new vendor, they want a credit application with a list of references that we've been on terms, somebody we've been on terms with.
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:50.239
Interesting.
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.960
Well, I'll I'll definitely work on that then.
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.480
Um I've also had my first job.
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:07.119
I I don't know this 100%, and I'm again I'm not um I'm not uh upset about it because there's probably a reason that I just don't know.
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.920
But I've had my first job that was gonna be a really good job that has kind of disappeared.
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.400
Um I just have not heard from the my contact for like three weeks.
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.639
Like you quoted and didn't hear back?
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.320
No, like I got the job and I haven't heard back.
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:38.320
Like he was uh he it was customer supplied material, he was um going to send it to me, and I I was actually expecting it the week before IMTS, so I was planning on starting on it after after the show.
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:46.159
Um and then I got back, I didn't have the material, I emailed him and I had nothing.
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:59.360
I haven't tried to call him, so I mean there is that, but um that was I mean, that's a bummer because I mean that was actually my biggest job to date, or would have been my biggest job to date.
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:05.119
Um so it it knocks down my foreseeable amount of income.
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.679
So but I just got to backfill it with more work.
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.559
So uh little bit of a bummer.
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.760
I mean, that's that's definitely uh if I didn't have any work, that would have that would have been bad.
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.639
But and uh this week I also had my first uh RMA.
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:32.800
Uh I won't get into specifics, but um yeah, it's it's I I really debated about even saying anything because it's very embarrassing.
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.199
But uh that's also reality of running a shop, right?
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.320
We've all had parts that get to the customer and they're not right.
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:49.360
Um you don't like when it happens and it's uh it's it's painful, but it does happen.
00:41:49.599 --> 00:42:04.719
And so I always say that you know nobody's perfect, and so the best thing that a shop or anybody can do when you make a mistake is just find out what happened and rectify it as easily as possible for the customer.
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:05.199
Yep.
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:06.880
So that's what I'm gonna do.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.920
Yep.
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:09.360
Yeah.
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:12.239
Still uh I mean, don't feel too bad.
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.199
You know what I scrapped a month ago.
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:16.000
Yeah.
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.400
Yeah, and then and then you went on vacation for two weeks.
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:22.320
Yeah.
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:28.639
No, I mean it it it's I hate to say this, it it is somewhat a pride thing.
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.519
And it's like, that's the second job that I completed.
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:39.840
That that's the thing that's wild, is like it I think I shipped that job at like the end of July, and it just now got inspected.
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:41.679
That's what always happens, man.
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.960
They need it right away, they gotta have it, and then you don't hear about an issue with it until four months later.
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.559
Yeah, you think you're in the clear, you know.
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:51.440
Yeah.
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.159
I've had that at I have on my quotes and sales orders, I don't remember the time frame.
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:02.400
It's been a while since I put it in there, but they have a certain amount of time after receiving to inspect the part and bring up any issues.
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:08.480
So then if it's like three months later, it's like, well, I'm not going back.
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:13.760
That's that's kind of a smart thing, though, because do you tell your customer no?
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:15.840
Do you want to relate it?
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:16.559
It kind of depends.
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.320
It depends what it is, yeah.
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.000
Depends on the customer, too.
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:22.480
Yeah.
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:24.400
Because you don't want to be like, no, fuck you.
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.519
And then be like, oh, I did make a mistake, so yeah.
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:40.480
It's that's that's especially for like if there's something confusing on their print, they didn't provide good clarification with it or for it, or something like that, where like if I just straight up made the part wrong, then I'm gonna make it right.
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:47.440
But if like the information you gave me to make the part wasn't great, or you sent me a model that wasn't correct, or whatever it was.
00:43:47.599 --> 00:44:01.280
I mean, I still try to verify all the models, even if they send it, but basically, if you give me bad information and that caused us to have a bad part and we're outside of that 10 day window or two week window, whatever it was, then We need to figure something else out.
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:01.679
Yeah.
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.280
Even if it's, you know, I'll I'll fix it for time and material.
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.880
But yeah.
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.039
I, you know what?
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:12.400
Okay, story time.
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:18.239
I I stopped by my former former employer's uh shop the other day.
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:19.519
I stopped by Galleons.
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.840
And I was I was talking to the owner, the 85-year-old guy.
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.440
Um and it's funny because he brought up he brought up that.
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:37.760
He every time I go there, he he's he's trying to give me like some knowledge that he's accumulated in 43 years of owning a shop.
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:49.679
Um and it's funny because he said exactly that uh is basically you can be you can be right, but you can also be dead right.
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.960
So he likened it to the right of way on the highway.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:45:01.840
If you if you see somebody that's turning out in front of you and you just keep going, you have the right of way, but you're gonna T-bone them and you might end up dead in the wreck.
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:02.400
Right.
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:09.039
So in his his phrasing, this is a very southern way to look at it, um, you're dead right.
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.400
Kind of the same way with like a customer interaction.
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:22.079
You can be right, but is it worth being right and sticking to your guns if you're gonna lose a customer that otherwise is is a decent customer.
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:22.559
Yeah.
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.199
I think it always depends as usual.
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:36.079
Like, you know, if it's somebody where you're right, you know you're right, but they're also being a pain in the ass to deal with and aren't listening to what you're saying, then maybe they just shouldn't be a customer.
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:36.880
Mm-hmm.
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:38.960
Exactly.
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.599
And that's I mean, Brad was kind of saying that too.
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:47.360
It's like you you have to judge it based off how much do you want that customer.
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:52.400
If if they're a pain in the butt, then maybe it is time to cut ties.
00:45:52.719 --> 00:46:07.840
If the but with that, if they go to other people and they're like, yeah, this company made me bad parts, and then when I asked them about it, they didn't do anything to fix it, there's that too.
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.960
So again, it's very nuanced.
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:16.320
It is a huge it-depends situation, uh, as is everything in this trade.
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:20.320
But um anyway, but back to back to that.
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:29.280
I will say, despite the fact that this week has been not the best, uh, I am still happier than I think I ever have been working for another person.
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:35.119
So I I'm still absolutely loving this new life that I have.
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.559
So despite the speed bumps.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:48.719
Yeah, it's like I think it's one of those things where even if you're not making as much money, which whether you are or not, I don't know.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:47:03.360
But like say you're making less money, you took a pay cut in order to do your own at home thing, um, it's more stressful, it's more difficult, you have to work more hours, you can still enjoy that way more and be way happier than working for a shitty person.
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:06.639
Oh, yeah, I agree.
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.280
And I I'm sure people are gonna wonder, and I don't mind sharing this.
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:16.639
Um, I I'm basically at least matching my income, even accounting for taxes.
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.000
Um, and I'm working 25 hours a week.
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:22.559
Yeah.
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.639
Now that's to be fair, that's also like I'm not really counting.
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.400
All right, don't laugh.
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:33.360
I was t I was telling a friend of mine that that stopped by to visit, I I kind of divide my time.
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:35.920
I'm gonna regret this so bad.
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:36.960
Say it, Pat.
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:42.079
I divide my time into hard hours and soft hours.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:43.360
Hard, huh?
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:45.840
Hush.
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.239
Does that depend if your wife's in the shop working or not?
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.079
Brad, shove it.
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.320
So um, oh my god.
00:47:54.719 --> 00:48:00.559
So it's basically like if I'm in the shop working, that's what I'm deeming hot hard hours, right?
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.559
I'm actually out here working, you know, does that mean you're doing working sometimes.
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:16.960
Um so and then soft hours is like I'm on the couch, I've got my laptop, this is not getting any better.
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.440
And I'm feeling backwards.
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:26.960
And I'm quoting or I'm programming ahead or something like that.
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:32.239
That's sure I'm working, but like I'm gonna be on the couch anyway.
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.880
I'm not a I guess that's one thing that benefits me.
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.599
I'm not a person to go out and like just do things.
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:44.079
Like, I don't go out to town, I don't go to bars, I don't go do really much of anything.
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.679
So, I mean, an exciting trip for me is a trip to Walmart.
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:55.920
Um so it makes it easier because it's not I'm not sacrificing any of my normal life to do that.
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:07.599
I mean, I still have way more time than I used to, you know, working being gone 11 hours a day, four days a week, working for some other jack wagon.
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.679
Um so I'm still way better off.
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.760
Um we'll see.
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.119
I I need to get more work coming in soon, but um, you know, we'll we'll get there.
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.239
I I got full faith that it'll come and we're gonna be alright.
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.880
What's what's your next investment gonna be?
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:31.840
Well, what's it gonna be and what do you I guess there's two things here.
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:40.480
There's kind of the reasonable next investments that just need to happen, and then there's next investments that you want to make happen, like a new machine or something.
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.679
Or I know give me both of those.
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.760
Uh I don't know.
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:55.440
I'd well I need a new a newer car, but that's not business related.
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:56.480
I guess it could be.
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:02.239
You make it business related by uh could be it um could be your shop vehicle.
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.400
You make large deliveries in it.
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.719
It'd be a lot better than doing driving a Georgia in my poor old Chevrolet.
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:09.199
I know that.
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:09.920
Chevy.
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.159
Um small block Chevy.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:19.280
Um as far as the shop, I I think the the biggest thing I need to get is a bigger air compressor.
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.920
This poor little guy I've got, it's gonna end up dead.
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.480
When that thing fired up when we got on here, that was obnoxious.
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.000
Oh do that.
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.599
Yeah, it's fucking buy a new compressor just to send you my old one.
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.760
Yeah, hey, I'll take it.
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:39.840
Um no, it's I mean, it does great, you know, for being a little 20, 24 gallon.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.480
It does fine, keep it up with this one machine, but I know that's that's limited.
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:53.280
So like I would like to get a 60 or 80 gallon, uh, maybe figure out a way I can put it outside and and cut that noise.
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.760
Uh the phase converter is plenty noisy too, but um if I could get rid of the compressor, that would help a lot.
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:03.440
Um, so yeah, bigger compressor is definitely like number one.
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.199
Um tooling and stuff, like I'm buying collets and stuff all the time.
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:11.760
Like every every time I turn around, I find out that I need a uh a collet size I don't have.
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:17.039
And unlike other people that I've like an ER collet, are you saying?
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.199
Yeah, yeah, especially ER collets.
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:24.880
I mean, like the other day, I put up a reel that or a story that a lot of people had took issue with.
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.920
I I had an M3 tap in a drill chuck.
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.280
Literally all I had to hold the tap with.
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.840
And I was in the middle of the job, I did not want to wait for a collet to show up.
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:43.519
Um, but unlike certain other people that I've dealt with or worked for, I saw the the need for that, and guess what I did?
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:50.079
I hopped my little butt on Haas Tooling and I ordered a collet and some other stuff to get free shipping.
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:55.039
Um so uh yeah, it's anyway.
00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:00.719
As far as your question though, Cam, uh yeah, definitely an air compressor, and then like big.
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.960
As much as I would like a lathe, um, I don't know what that says about me.
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.800
Um I haven't gotten a lot of lathe RFQs.
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:12.320
I've only really had one.
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:23.039
So there's a part of me that thinks if I'm mainly getting mill work, I think another small mill would be my next best option.
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:24.000
Yes.
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:25.760
Um I would agree there.
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:31.440
I mean, obviously you don't have a lathe workload, and if you were to get a lathe, you'd probably get lathe work in.
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.039
It's like if you build it, they will come kind of thing.
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.159
But think about if your mill goes down.
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:39.039
Mm-hmm.
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:39.519
Exactly.
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.239
You don't have a backup, then what do you do?
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:42.800
Yep.
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:54.159
I mean, obviously that machine's fairly easy to work on and parts are decently available, but what if it takes you a week and a half, two weeks to get it fixed and you're just not making parts for that entire time?
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:55.840
Yeah, it's not good.
00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:07.440
I mean, at that point, I'm I mean, I have people I could call in to help me with it, but that's still like at best, most likely, I'm just I'm gonna be getting it made at cost, right?
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.480
So I'm not making money, I'm just keeping my customers happy.
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:11.039
Yeah.
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:12.480
Um so yeah, exactly.
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.320
And also, you know how great it is to have two meals running at one time.
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:23.199
Yeah, you have one job, you get 20-minute cycle time, whatever, you just keep swapping parts while you're setting up this other machine for the next job.
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:29.679
Or you need to make some soft jaws or some fixturing for op two on a part you have running right now on op one.
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:40.880
And then it's like, all right, cool, now I gotta wait till I'm done running all of op one, then set up and make my fixturing, then carry on, you know, like just having another mill there is so handy.
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:41.920
Oh, yeah.
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:43.039
Yeah, definitely.
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:50.880
And the funny thing is, I I listen, I love you know having the VF2 and the and the amount of space it allows me to do.
00:53:51.039 --> 00:54:03.440
Like I've got two vices, I can easily run off one of my gripper jaws and I'll have to ever change a thing, and then I can just transfer over to my second vice for op twos, op three, four, five, six, whatever.
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:07.599
Um eventually a fourth axis would be cool.
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:13.199
I'd probably get another mill before that, but then another mill is a whole lot more money.
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:23.519
I still need to try this this converter kit that I got from uh from Jay Fetty um for the for the fourth axis Brad sent me with a machine.
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:25.440
But um we'll we'll see.
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:26.639
I need I need to look into that.
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:28.480
You just need to get a UMC 500.
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:30.960
But yeah, sure.
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:36.480
May maybe uh Possum bought his U500, maybe they can do a two for two for deal.
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:42.239
Well, I mean, what's the payment on that on a UMC 500?
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.719
I'm sure it's probably$2,500 a month or something.
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:48.480
Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure it's quite a bit.
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.800
Probably better off getting another mill for now.
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.079
That's what I figure.
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:53.920
I mean a mini mill.
00:54:54.239 --> 00:55:01.440
Get it get another mill for now and just bust ass and get to the point where you can build another shop with some more room on your property.
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:02.079
Exactly.
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.239
I should have just stuck with that VF3 and I should have sent you my old VF3.
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:11.840
That'd that'd be a tight squeeze in here.
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.760
Yeah, you've seen you've seen Evil Pat's shop, right?
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:16.719
Yeah.
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:17.920
True, true.
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:19.440
He's making them work, man.
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:26.480
I always have people say you can't fit any more machines in there, but then like I see like that, where like I can get my machines a hell of a lot of circumstances.
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:31.280
Like even where I'm sitting right here, I could fit another VF3 where I'm sitting.
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:33.360
Like if I wanted to.
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.079
I'm just I'm so tired of I'm so tired of things being cramped.
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.599
That's why I that's why I have my machines laid out the way they are.
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:42.559
I like to be able to walk around.
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.679
My forklift in front of them if I have to.
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:46.400
Yeah.
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.280
That's what that's I'm looking forward to that in our new shop.
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.880
Which for those of you that don't know, we just closed on a on a new building.
00:55:53.119 --> 00:56:01.199
So we're moving to a well, eventually moving to a 16,000 square foot building, but a lot of work needs to be done before that.
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.079
But it's gonna be obviously a lot more open than what we have now.
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:13.599
And right now we've got you know six machines, two of which are pretty decent sized, you know, an 85 by 30 mil and a 24-inch Chuck lathe and a 40 by 60 shop.
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.480
So it's it's tight in there.
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.320
I mean, it's it's not bad.
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:19.440
The layout's pretty decent.
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:25.440
You know, I modeled it all, modeled all the machines, and played with the layout for hours until we finally settled on what we have.
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.480
But so for the most part, you can get a pallet jack to every machine almost.
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.519
It can get kind of tight, but you can make it work.
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:39.039
And we use carts for everything, so you can wheel a cart with your material over to your to your machine, but I'm tired of it.
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.280
I want to just be able to pull a forklift up and have a zone out in front of each machine where your material goes.
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:52.480
If it's gonna be on a pallet, because we do a pallet so often, you can just pull up with a forklift, drop it, or even if you've got to do it with a pallet jack, just make it to where it's easy to navigate with a pallet jack.
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.599
And you can just drop your material right there in front of the machine and you have the room for it.
00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:58.639
Yeah.
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:00.159
That'll be great, man.
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.239
I mean, it's it's very nice when things are laid out in an open way.
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:12.400
Um and not, I mean, I've you know, I've been to your your current shop and like it's it's laid out really well for as much as you have in there.
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:18.079
But yeah, I can see, especially since you guys do a lot of big stuff, castings and whatnot, I'm sure it gets tight.
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.360
If we didn't have to keep our tools in there too, then it would it would be much better.
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:30.719
Like right now we have our tool cabinet, tool rack for all our holders, and uh like a toolbox for actually setting up all the tools and stuff right in the middle of the shop because there's nowhere else for it to go.
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:32.639
So that kind of puts a kink in things.
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:36.320
Before we actually moved that in there, it was pretty nice for a couple weeks.
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.719
Just having it right in the middle of the floor.
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.360
But you gotta do what you gotta do.
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.039
That's exciting, man.
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:44.320
Got a new building coming up.
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:54.400
New building coming up, a lot of work to be done to it, but yeah, it it needs paint, insulation, like 50 tons of HVAC.
00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.559
Yeah, build out a tool room, inspection lab, welding shop.
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.679
Uh, what else we got?
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.239
Electrical, which isn't gonna be cheap.
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:07.519
No.
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:09.920
It's insane how expensive electrical is.
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:14.000
Like, you think about doing electrical stuff around the around the house, and it's really not that bad.
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:21.119
You know, a couple hundred bucks, you can do most most of what you want to do, but there it's gonna be tens of thousands of dollars.
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.639
Probably around a hundred grand for the electrical when you're done.
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:25.599
Easily.
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:29.679
I mean, and that this is small potatoes compared to that.
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:36.000
Like luckily, I had just enough cable on my phase converter to run from where it is to the mill.
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:43.119
Um, but I was looking, it I thought it was gonna be a little short, and I didn't want to have to splice two cables together.
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:44.320
I mean, that'd be silly.
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:49.840
So I was looking at buying, you know, the same cable like five feet longer, and it was like it was like$300.
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:50.880
Yeah.
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:56.159
And I mean, that's for VF2, like you know, some of the stuff you have, yeah.
00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:03.440
It's when do you think you guys uh I know it's very open-ended, like when do you think you guys will be operational in that building?
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.880
I'm thinking moving in the spring at the earliest.
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.119
Because right now, you know, it's October.
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:14.480
So if you start getting stuff contracted out, it's gonna be nobody's gonna show up this week and start working.
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:15.039
No.
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:24.719
You know, and so I mean, we've got people we're already dealing with because we had to get quotes and stuff for all the work that would need to be done to the building, you know, because we were wrapping that into uh financing.
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.440
So we have a lot of stuff quoted.
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:35.039
We've already been dealing with people, but to actually get somebody out, you know, I'm sure it's gonna be two, three, four weeks before anybody could start doing something.
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:44.559
Then you run into Thanksgiving, then you run into Christmas and New Year's, and then finally January comes around and people are you know by the end of January, everybody's ready to actually like work work.
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:54.800
So yeah, I'm thinking spring at the earliest, and then realistically, probably more like May, unfortunately.
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:56.480
I want to move in tomorrow.
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:57.360
Oh, I'm sure.
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:01.119
I'm sure it's also it's it's 15 minutes from my house.
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:03.519
And I don't go on the highway or anything.
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:11.360
It's just you just drive into town and then you're at the shop, versus right now I gotta go get on the highway and drive 35 minutes to the current shop.
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.440
So that'll be good, man.
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:14.800
Yeah, that'd be really good.
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:18.639
Yep, then I can just go there and swap parts on a in the middle of the night.
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.760
Um you also have some new employees, right?
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:24.480
Yep.
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:25.039
Yep.
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:26.559
Hired a guy.
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:29.119
Uh well, we've hired two people recently.
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.719
One guy is he's been a machinist for 40 something years.
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:38.000
He's well, he's 63 now, just had his birthday.
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:39.920
Um, that dude's awesome though.
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:40.719
He kicks ass.
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.280
Not what you would expect out of a 63-year-old.
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:48.480
Um doesn't act like an old man or look like one, to be honest.
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:50.159
Uh nice.
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:50.559
Yeah.
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:51.760
But no, he's been great.
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:58.159
I mean, obviously, he's got a ton of experience, a lot of experience in tool and die, um, and experience in production shops.
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.400
Like the job shop environment.
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.599
I don't remember if he worked in another job shop or not.
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:06.239
But I mean, just got a good attitude.
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:10.800
And like when he first started, you know, he has he hadn't ran uh Fanic machines.
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:12.480
He'd ran Haas and Mazac.
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.440
So like he had to learn Fanic stuff.
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.079
And yeah, he's early to work every day.
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:23.360
Whenever I teach him anything, he's got a notebook, you know, because every freaking machine has a different way to load a program.
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:29.679
So, you know, he's writing down instructions as I as I teach him something, so I don't ever have to teach him something twice.
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.519
You know, he's just good attitude.
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:37.920
If we, you know, have to do something crappy or stay a little late to finish something up, whatever, he's perfectly happy to do it.
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:39.920
So it's been great.
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:41.280
That's awesome, dude.
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:41.599
Yeah.
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:49.920
And then uh hired another guy to do uh, he just got the Marine Corps, he's a facility or not a um, what was he doing?
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000
He's a heavy equipment mechanic.
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.360
So I kind of hired him as like a facility maintenance kind of guy.
01:01:55.599 --> 01:02:01.280
Because there's just been so much stuff around the shop that we've needed to get done and just haven't touched it, haven't gotten around to it.
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:07.840
Like the uh I had him replace the pressure gauge on the spindle chiller for one of our machines.
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.039
The gauge started leaking.
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:10.800
It's been leaking for like a year.
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.599
Maybe not that long, but at least six months.
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.519
And just just as well, really it started out as just kind of a light drip.
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:21.360
You know, here and there it would drip throughout the day, wasn't a huge deal.
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.480
Um, and then eventually topped the machine off.
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:31.679
And then let's see, yeah, last week I noticed it was leaking way faster, it just got way worse.
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:36.800
Had the gauge, just hadn't gotten around to doing it, and it was really nice.
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:43.440
I I set up a a little thing that we can both view and edit, like like a to-do list.
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:47.119
So there's like large projects, small projects, and there's priorities on there.
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:53.840
Like if something gets set to critical, then it notifies them that we have a critical item that needs to get taken care of.
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:55.199
So like that was a critical one.
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:59.119
I noticed it, Bob, the new guy.
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.639
Um he was running the machine.
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:09.760
So I told him, hey, once you're done with these parts, I'm gonna have Jack, the other the facility maintenance guy, take care of replacing this.
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.079
So I put it in our little system, set it to critical.
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:23.119
He got a notification, put in there we need to replace this gauge, top off the the oil, clean the floor, and then you know, clean clean the filter too on the uh spindle chiller.
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.239
And so he came in, he's like, Hey, I'm ready to do this thing.
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.880
I was like, Cool, Bob's finishing up, here's what you gotta do.
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:30.320
And he just took care of it.
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:31.599
I mean, he's kicking ass.
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.840
He's you can tell that's awesome, man.
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:38.880
Yeah, you can tell he's you know had to be responsible for working on things before.
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.760
So I'll tell you I'm clean our manual shop too.
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.079
You remember seeing our manual shop how bad it was?
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:46.719
Oh, yeah.
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:55.039
Because it was like so we moved everything around and we had to remove our manual mill and lathe from the CNC shop over to our old building.
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:59.039
When it was in our CNC shop, we kept it clean and tidy because we clean every Monday morning in there.
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.599
When you stick it in the old building, it's just often no man's land forgotten about.
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:09.599
So you go in there, do what you have to do really fast, get back to what you're doing, and you don't clean anything up.
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.440
It just ends up a mess all the time.
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:11.920
Oh, yeah.
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.159
I haven't even been organized since we moved everything over there.
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:19.440
So I had him go through and clean all that up, and it feels so much better walking through there.
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.000
You know, the floor's cleaned up, everything's organized.
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.920
So need to organize the toolboxes, but like things are neat.
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:29.039
So that was really, really nice.
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:48.079
I'll say the the way that you're handling it with actually having like a like a community thing that you and him can both look at is really nice because what I've seen, uh I I think the maintenance guy at Gaians listens to the podcast every so often, so he'll he'll appreciate this.
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:53.039
One of the biggest issues for maintenance guys in shops is everything's word of mouth.
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:53.519
Yeah.
01:04:53.920 --> 01:05:03.440
You get one guy telling you to do this, and then you get someone else telling you to do this, and then you get the owner telling you to do this, which obviously takes priority.
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:03.920
Yeah.
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:08.400
Um, and it just it it really puts people like that in a hard spot.
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:18.320
Um because you almost have to be the bad guy of like, okay, well, this manager told me to do this, yeah, you're telling me to do this.
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.559
So yeah, I I really like the way you're doing it.
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.400
What happens there too is things get forgotten about.
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:30.320
So the low priority stuff that people tell you about over time, you know, it's like, okay, cool, I need to take care of that.
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.000
Then the owner, manager, somebody else comes and says, Hey, this machine's acting up.
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.000
I need you to take care of this, so you go and take care of that.
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:47.519
Then another, another thing pops up, and another thing pops up, and then now all the the low priority stuff that's important and needs to be taken care of, just not right away, completely gets forgotten about and never gets done.
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.400
So which is kind of like what was happening with us.
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:51.840
We're just we're just playing whack-a-mole.
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.639
If something popped up and it was urgent enough for us to stop machining and take care of it, we'd take care of it.
01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.639
But if anything outside of that just didn't get done, it's like, oh yeah, we Need to get to that.
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:01.440
We need to get to that.
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.320
We need to get to that and just never, never would.
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:08.000
So, like, for example, do you remember seeing the lever rack at our shop?
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:09.840
Or kept all our soft jaws?
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:22.639
So lever rack is one of those, it's it's built inside of a pallet rack, and you have basically like bookshapes, uh, like bookcases or bookshelves inside of it that slide left to right, and the plastic wheels that came on it had cracked, and so like took it apart.
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:30.800
I actually 3D printed some solid wheels just to kind of get it going again, and then hadn't touched it for like seven months, might even be longer.
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:36.320
Because it's just one of those things, it's like, oh yeah, I need to get to that, need to get to that, and you just never do.
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.920
So now this guy, that was one of the first things I had him do.
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.800
It's like, all right, this thing's been bugging us for months.
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:44.000
Fix this, please.
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:46.239
He's like, All right, cool, take care of it.
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:49.679
Um, so that's been awesome.
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:57.039
But like with the having a way for us to track the stuff that needs to get done too, like you can just get it out of your head and onto this list, and now we know it's there all the time.
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:58.239
We don't forget about it.
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.159
You can get to it whenever you have the time.
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:07.519
Um, but it I did it on Monday, you know, Monday.com, that was like kind of the precursor to the ERP that we have now.
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.039
Um, that's what I was originally using to try to track jobs on.
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.719
But on there, I also have you know our order list, I have our timesheets on there, that sort of thing.
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:18.800
So we still use it, even though we don't use like the job tracking portion of it that I had made.
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.079
I actually deleted all that.
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:28.000
But I just created a new board on there for facility maintenance, and I created that you know, large job and small job board, and then a completed job board.
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:38.079
It's or groups is what they call them on a board, and then you have your priority in there, and I have a spot for notes, so I can be like, you know, like on the 500 on that machine that needed the uh gauge replaced.
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:45.360
I put the in the notes like replace gauge, clean the oil off the floor, top off the oil, clean that filter, all that stuff.
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.719
And then there's another spot for him to put completed notes in there too.
01:07:48.800 --> 01:08:00.800
So whenever he's done with something, if there's like you know whatever information needs to be passed, like we need to follow back up on this in you know, three months or something, he can put that in there, and then we got it.
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:04.880
And there's already an app structure there, so he just downloads the app on his phone.
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:06.480
Now he's got it, he can see it.
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:11.679
If he gets a notification because something's you know a critical item, it just pops up and notifies him.
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:13.760
So that's awesome, dude.
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:15.360
Yeah, I I I love that thinking.
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:20.800
Yeah, and honestly, I didn't even realize how bad we needed somebody like that until I hired him.
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:24.159
Uh like I knew there was stuff around the shop that needed to get done.
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.920
But then after hiring him, I'm like, all right, well, we gotta find stuff for him to do now.
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:32.560
Um, because I'm also gonna have him handle, you know, packaging parts and saw and material and stuff like that.
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:36.079
And then, you know, if he's interested in machining, start teaching machining stuff as well.
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:38.319
So just keep going up.
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:47.119
But having him there and knowing he already has the skill set to fix and maintain things, like, and he's got the free time because that's his job right now.
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:53.119
Like now I realize how much stuff's been neglected around the shop and has needed to get done, and it's 100% worth having him.
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:54.880
Yeah, for sure.
01:08:55.119 --> 01:09:00.239
It's it's one of those things like you guys are at the point now where you can you can stomach that overhead.
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:01.199
Right, exactly.
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:07.039
Um, but it also it does help because now like your other guys can just run parts.
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:14.960
Yeah, they don't we were doing before anyway, but we were just working around, you know, broken shelves, leaking, you know, machines and whatever else.
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:15.359
Right.
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.319
We just weren't maintaining stuff, which I mean I'm sure you've been places.
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:25.520
Well, I know you've been places like that where that stuff gets neglected over time, then the place just kind of everything's just falling apart everywhere.
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:26.239
Oh, yeah.
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:32.239
So yeah, it gets let go and let go, and then before you know it, I mean it can lead to much bigger problems, too.
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:37.199
You know, I mean if you have a machine leaking oil, it's well I so I actually caught that.
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:44.319
Uh the oil for the spindle chiller was off the site glass, like below empty.
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.399
There was still oil in there.
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.359
Um, but yeah, it was it was really low.
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.319
Had that gone much longer, we would have ran out of oil.
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:52.720
Yep.
01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.399
Because we just kept neglecting this thing.
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:58.880
So now we can just fix that stuff right away when we notice it, because I have a person dedicated to do that.
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:04.960
But another thing with another consideration with hiring somebody for that position was you know, we're about to be moving shops.
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:13.359
There's a lot of random stuff that needs to get done in our current shop, like just stuff that needs to be gone through and tossed, or we got a storage unit for putting stuff in that we're gonna sell.
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:17.199
So just getting stuff over to that place, whatever.
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:21.680
Um like having somebody to help handle and facilitate all that stuff.
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:33.279
And then once we move or prepare to move, you know, putting in airlines, connect the machines, I don't know, all just there's gonna be so much random odds, odds and ends stuff that's gonna need to get done.
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:41.039
It's gonna be so helpful having somebody like that around to just take care of that for you so we can focus on making parts and making money so we can pay everybody.
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.000
Yeah, that's awesome, dude.
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.479
Um, so Brad, you got anything new going on?
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:49.760
Not too much.
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.640
Just playing fucking catch up now.
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:53.199
Yeah.
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:54.880
Why are you playing and catch-up?
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.479
Oh, you know, I actually fucking hate catch up.
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.039
I was gonna say I love ketchup, but no, I hate catch-up.
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:08.800
Um I got uh I got a residual pressure alarm on my UMC, I gotta figure out.
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:12.239
I was gonna do it this week, but I just haven't had time.
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:17.279
One of the things I should probably figure out before I start running more shit.
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.079
I know I know which line it is.
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:26.479
I just that's the hardest lines to get to, so I don't really want to climb in there and I don't really want to call anybody.
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:28.239
But yeah, I get that.
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:30.399
You need a you need Jack.
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:35.359
That's my facility maintenance guy.
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:36.640
Can you send them over here?
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:37.760
Yeah, send them up.
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.880
You just pay pay traveling per diem.
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.359
Probably be cheaper than the HFO.
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.399
Yeah, probably.
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:53.119
Yeah, that's I mean, it happens.
01:11:53.359 --> 01:12:04.800
I I got a little scared the other day um because I I was running parts on the on the VF2 and I got a low lube alarm, which you guys remember I had issues with lube leaks when I first got it.
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:05.039
Yep.
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.279
Um, so I'm like, oh God, here we go.
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.920
I go around to the back and it's just low.
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:11.760
So you're already that low?
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:12.720
You haven't even ran it?
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.600
It's only been did you fill it up?
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:19.039
Uh no, it uh I didn't put any in it when I got it.
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.560
It was like two-thirds full.
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:20.880
Oh.
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:27.920
And it wasn't, it's funny, it was getting low pressure, but it wasn't at the low limit on the tank.
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:33.439
So it there might be a small leak somewhere, but it it's it's working well enough.
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:38.399
I put more vector two in it, and I mean it's been fine.
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.039
So um it's funny.
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.399
Uh I'm curious if you've done this, Brad.
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:50.880
Apparently, Haas does not recommend that you use mobile or uh Vactor II anymore.
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:56.000
You uh especially on super speed machines, you're supposed to use SHC 625.
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:04.960
Um but like the tank says Vactor 2, but apparently, like in the years since they've they've decided that this 625 is better.
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.039
Maybe for newer machines.
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.319
That's what I'm wondering.
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:08.960
I don't know.
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.840
I don't use I don't use the Vactra stuff.
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:19.439
Um I think when I I think my first five-gallon pail was Vactra and Vactor, whatever.
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.279
Uh, and then when I went to go order it again, the place I bought it from didn't offer it.
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:25.920
They had a comparable brand.
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:26.960
I don't know what it was.
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:28.479
But so I just went with that.
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:30.319
I think I think I should think it's from Simcool.
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:30.640
I don't know.
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:33.439
It's it's only like 75 bucks for five gallons.
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:34.319
Yeah.
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:35.359
Yeah.
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.119
It it's it's odd.
01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:53.520
I I want to say the reasoning is like apparently factor two can get sticky over time, and especially for the super speed spindles, like it can it may not lube like it's supposed to, but I mean, you know, everybody uses factor two on most machines.
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.239
So I bought a quart of the 625.
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:59.680
I don't I don't know if I'll change over to it or not.
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:06.720
Um but yeah, so nothing really new on your end, just catch up from being already.
01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:10.239
You know, I'm in Minnesota, so I'm planning for winter to come.
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:14.079
Trying to trying to figure that shit out.
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:18.159
Every year my drain freezes.
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:27.119
And I I I have a heat cord, and I've planned on running it down my drain for two years now, but every year it's like, I'm not gonna do this, it's too cold now.
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:29.359
So I finally just did that week.
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:30.880
I took a day and did that.
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:34.560
So just ready for the winter.
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:43.680
Yeah, that's that's really funny because like for me and Cam, I mean, we probably have what eight weeks, ten weeks before we have to start worrying about that.
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:44.159
Yeah.
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:46.479
And even at that, we don't have to worry about it that much.
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:47.920
I don't worry about it.
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:51.840
Like all last winter, I didn't even cover my faucets outside.
01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:52.640
Yeah.
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:54.399
I don't have to worry about it anymore.
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:56.000
Now, when I was in the camper wet.
01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.279
Last winter was your first winter inside, right?
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:00.880
Oh yeah, and it was wonderful.
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:01.279
Yeah.
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:06.159
I'm sure that place is pretty well climate controlled too, with all the many splits and insulation you have.
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:06.880
Oh yeah.
01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:14.239
Dude, it's it's it's crazy how I mean I probably overdid it on the units, which is okay.
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:19.279
I have a feeling if you overdo it on the units, you probably spend less year to year.
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:20.079
Oh yeah.
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:27.520
Because I mean, my like peak uh during the winter, my electric bill was like 200 bucks.
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:28.159
Yeah.
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:34.079
Whereas, I mean, in the camper, there were there were times when I mean it would be$150 just in that stupid thing.
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:43.119
And and obviously, like, you know, it's running through 30 amp thing, so it's drawing a lot of amps, and then electric heater draws a lot of amps.
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:44.720
Um wonder.
01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:46.960
And then they're not insulated hardly at all.
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:49.199
So how much of an increase have you noticed?
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.800
Well, I guess have you noticed it yet with the new machine?
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:54.000
Not much.
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:55.439
Not much at all.
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:59.439
Like and mind you, I'm not run I already said like I'm not running that much.
01:15:59.600 --> 01:15:59.920
Yeah.
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:04.880
But I mean, it it might have gone up forty, fifty dollars a month.
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:05.439
Yeah.
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:11.680
Oh hey, that um material for the part you're gonna do for us is should be here next week.
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:12.159
Cool.
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:12.720
By the way.
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.039
I looked, I was I don't know why it's taking so long.
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.960
They had it was a bar of inch and a half by four, forty-one forty.
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:20.479
I asked for 72 inches.
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:23.119
They said they had a bar of 71 and a half inch on hand.
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:29.279
And I looked yesterday because they had shipped some stuff to us, and I was like, it should have come by now.
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:30.319
They had it on hand.
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.319
Not coming until next week, apparently.
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:34.159
So I don't know what to do with there.
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:38.720
So making some shop parts for us.
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:39.520
That's right.
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:39.920
Yeah.
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:41.600
And I I really appreciate that.
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:46.000
Once once you're done, I'm gonna black oxide them and laser engrave all of them.
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:47.279
Oh, that'd be sweet.
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.039
Yeah, that'd be sweet.
01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:54.159
Um that works because like I I've still got some work I need to get through.
01:16:54.399 --> 01:17:00.079
Um, and then uh, you know, I probably it's Sam.
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:00.960
I'm not sure.
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:02.000
He might have been confused.
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:10.159
It sounded like there were some more of those castings that I could do as well, but then there are okay, because he was saying he wasn't sure if there was or not.
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.079
Yep, there's um okay.
01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:14.319
So I figure okay.
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:17.520
I figure if it works for you guys, I'll just come down there and get all that.
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:19.520
I'll bring your spindle gauge back.
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:20.239
Oh yeah.
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.760
Um and yeah, I mean that that works well.
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.560
Um so cool.
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:27.199
Yeah.
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:28.159
It's so funny.
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:33.600
I've had a lot of people tell me like you can't make money doing work for other shops, but I'm doing pretty good at it.
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.000
You can definitely make money doing work for other shops.
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:36.560
Yeah, yeah.
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:38.800
I mean, I think they have overflow.
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:43.119
Like the risk there is when things slow down and they don't have overflow anymore, then it dries up for you too.
01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:48.159
So when you're not making directly for a customer, then the demand can go away.
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:51.840
But you can definitely make great money doing that.
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:52.239
Yeah.
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:52.640
Yep.
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:55.279
I mean, my overhead is what what, Brad?
01:17:55.439 --> 01:18:03.199
Well, I I was just gonna say the only the only thing that I worry about is people doing too much overflow work is if they slow down, you're the first to lose it.
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:03.680
Yep.
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:04.800
Yeah, exactly.
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.880
Yeah, you've said that before, and that's very true.
01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:15.199
Or if they realize, hey, we're sending out a shit ton of work right now, like we could buy another machine and hire two guys or whatever and bring it in-house.
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:15.920
Yep.
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:16.640
Oh, yeah.
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:17.600
Yeah.
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:25.279
Unless I slowed down, then I mean that's a different story.
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:28.159
And let's face it, it's just business, right?
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.079
If if Cam, I mean, it'd been very gracious sending me work.
01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:38.960
If you told me tomorrow that, hey, we're we're getting slow, so we we're not gonna have anything to send to you.
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:39.520
I get it.
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.199
Yeah, you gotta take care of your own first.
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:42.720
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, that's the thing.
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:44.800
You've worked in machine shops, you know how it is.
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:45.600
Mm-hmm.
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:46.800
Absolutely.
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:50.479
We're sending it to you right now because we're too busy and we can't do it.
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.560
So obviously, standard reason.
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:54.960
Once we're not too busy and we can do it, we wouldn't.
01:18:55.279 --> 01:19:06.880
But I don't know, also at this point, too, with some of those parts, it's like you've already made them, you've got the process figured out, we don't have to think about it, and you make money and we make money, so we might as well just keep doing it.
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:07.600
Yeah.
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:27.680
Because I mean, that's the nice thing in my case, like my overhead is is low, and so I can I don't want to be the cheap guy because that's got a whole different connotation, but like when you have an established shop that has has to have a higher rate, it's not hard for me to come in and still be right affordable for them.
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:29.760
Well, I mean, it's like what Brad's talking about before.
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.279
People talk about like garage shops being erased to the bottom or whatever.
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:38.239
It's like it's not your fault, your overhead's way lower than the big shop up the street.
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:39.680
Yeah, exactly.
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:42.560
I mean it works great too for the overflow stuff.
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:46.239
Like, like I said, you're making money and we're making money.
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.000
And everybody's happy.
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:48.800
Mm-hmm.
01:19:49.359 --> 01:20:00.479
The biggest one thing I've I've noticed uh for me versus like other places I've worked at, is um I can get to something quick.
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:08.079
Like if somebody sends me an RFQ, I can get it out quick because I don't I don't have to unless I'm waiting on a material quote or something like that.
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:10.399
But um I'm the guy.
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.800
I don't have to run it through three or four other people.
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:16.479
You know, I can just do it and send it out.
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:23.279
And I and even with like rush parts, I don't have to run it through three or four people to see can we squeeze this in.
01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:26.159
I just know yes or no.
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:26.800
Yeah.
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:33.840
Um so you know, that kind of I guess nimbleness uh helps uh I think with a lot of cases.
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:35.840
Because I've had some guys come to me.
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:46.399
I I had um uh I had a guy he's been on the podcast before uh ask me right before IMTS, hey man, uh I've got some parts I need made.
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:50.000
I'd like for you to make them, um, but I need them in a couple weeks.
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:57.600
And I'm like, well, I'm already playing like pre-catchup before IMTS, and then I'm gonna be gone for a week right when you need the parts.
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:59.119
So I I can't.
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:09.199
However, a friend of mine that has a shop uh nearby, another one-man shop, I'm like, hey, you're interested in in doing a job for me.
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:10.399
And it worked out great.
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:19.279
He got the parts done in the time frame the guy needed, and you know, I made, you know, a little bit of money off of it, not a whole lot, but enough to make it worth it.
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:21.359
And it made him happy.
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:22.640
He got good parts.
01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:26.880
So uh it it goes back to again.
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:33.119
I've said it before, the the the pie's infinite, and we can all find our our slice of it.
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:33.680
Yeah.
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:35.680
There's an ask for every seat.
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:38.720
Uh also a way to put that.
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:42.319
All right, boys.
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.520
Um, I guess we'll move on to our impractical tip.
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.000
Uh do either of you have one?
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:49.279
No.
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:50.239
Okay.
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:52.880
So mine I do.
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:54.560
Mine's as usual.
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:56.399
Mine's a little philosophical.
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.399
Um there is no village without villagers.
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:12.640
If you feel like you don't have a lot of support in your local community, whether that's actually physically local or not, you might have to be the guy to go out and make that happen.
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:17.520
Um a lot of people talk about how there's no there's no village anymore, right?
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:21.279
You know, used to you had people around you that you could rely on for support.
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:25.439
And this is more in line with like raising a family, right?
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:31.119
You had relatives nearby or friends nearby that could help you with your kids and things like that.
01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:35.520
Um as the world's become more and more distant, we we've lost that.
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:38.479
But that goes both ways.
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:43.359
If there's no village around you, maybe you need to be the person to help start the village.
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:54.880
IMTS taught me that because it made me realize that, hey, there we do have a village of machinists that are all over the world, all over the States, all over the world.
01:22:55.359 --> 01:23:24.880
And so I want to start working on building a local community of machinists and guys that uh own shops and uh anybody like in the manufacturing space, um, just so we have a network, a local network of people to talk to, help with, rely on, um, and try to try to make it into something because we have that informally.
01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:33.600
I mean, I have I have two guys near me that are friends, and I'm friends with them that we work together and you know, we borrow stuff from each other.
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:37.760
I I had one of them laser etch some parts for me because I don't know anybody for that.
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:39.359
He happens to have a laser etcher.
01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:40.000
It worked great.
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:41.439
He didn't charge me nothing.
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:50.000
It just comes with the not even the expectation, but just the understanding that, hey, if I need something from you, you'll be there for me.
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:59.199
And I think the more that we can get into that mentality, I think the better off we will all be.
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:00.479
Yep.
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:01.920
I agree.
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:06.000
It's a pretty great idea, especially in a place like where you are.
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:07.680
You know, there's not a lot.
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:16.000
You know, you you move to somewhere like Brad, where there's a million machine shops and platers and material supply houses and all that shit.
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:27.600
It's a lot easier to get along, but where you're at, like say you need a piece of material right now, you know, all these other shops around you, like, hey guys, I just need this piece of material for this one-off part.
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:29.039
Anyone got anything on hand?
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:29.840
I'll pay.
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:30.239
That's right.
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:31.439
You know, market rate, whatever.
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.920
Boom, now it's happening that day.
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.159
Or like you say, laser engraving.
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:38.560
You have somebody nearby with a laser grave.
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:40.319
Like, I don't know any of the shops around us.
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:43.039
I know one, and I know two guys at work there.
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:54.560
If we need something, like we can talk to them, of course, but it's not like an open, established line where we we're relying on each other, asking for advice or you know, asking for help with stuff.
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.439
It's just they're over there, we're over here.
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:03.840
Every now and then, you know, they need some tooling made, or that's kind of it.
01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:06.079
Kind of the relationship.
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:11.039
So having sort of tab, I know I know a lot of shops around me.
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:20.880
I could shoot out a message, hey, you got a tap, and I could have one from somebody, or I mean, obviously I got vendors, but if it's a Saturday, I mean I got probably 10 people I could reach out to.
01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:26.319
I mean, I've sent Civil Machine on Instagram, he's kind of local to me.
01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.479
Um, he reached out about some vacuum gasket.
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:32.720
I just I just sent him like 20 feet.
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:33.279
Yeah.
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:39.760
You know, and man thy there's been many times where he's needed an odd size tap or something or thread gauges.
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:44.960
So yeah, it it all goes a long way.
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:51.279
And uh, you know, again, I'll hearken back to to uh to Mr.
01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:52.399
Galleon again.
01:25:52.800 --> 01:26:05.279
Again, just yesterday he he told me how he tries not to look at other people that are in the trade with a shop as competition because he feels like that's not a good way to look at it.
01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:05.760
Yeah.
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:09.600
Um and yes, we're competitors.
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:18.960
I mean, the three of us are competitors in in a way, but Brad has his customers, Cam's got his, I've got mine, you both are my customers.
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:19.439
Yeah.
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:24.720
And I mean again, I go back to that infinite pie.
01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:29.840
It our our slices, even if they do overlap, that's okay.
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:41.760
So yeah, that's IMTS kind of helped bring that into my mind, and it definitely helped motivate me to cry to do more of that.
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:49.439
So I'm I haven't done anything with it yet, but I I want to try to do a local get-together of of uh guys in the trade.
01:26:49.600 --> 01:27:01.840
Um, I've already made a Facebook group months ago uh for local guys, and uh it hasn't really done anything, but I haven't put a lot of effort into it either.
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:04.640
So, there again, there's no village without villagers.
01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:05.920
I'm not being a villager.
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:06.960
Yeah.
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:09.920
So um we'll see.
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.600
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