Ellen Dubin

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Welcome to the Hot Switch with your host Ali Meng, bringing you the best from leaders, comebackers, and instigators from around the world.
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Every episode, we put each other on the hot seat to exchange the kind of hard-won wisdom and transformative ideas that will shift your perspective and fuel your next move.
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This is the Hot Switch.
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I first met Ellen Dalen on stage in a chorus line in 1986.
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In 2020, I featured her in my book Finding the Light.
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Because when you meet a soul like Ellen, you want the world to know her.
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Born in Toronto, Ellen began as a ballet dancer and soon moved to the theater Shakespeare Musicals to Farsi and became one of the foremost voice artists in the business.
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Four seasons and four characters, including Jamaica in the couple hip lines, including the first female poet in sci-fi history.
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A Gemini nomination for her lead in the collector.
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The unforgettable Tupperware Mama Napoleon Dynamite.
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Ellen was the welcoming voice of the 60th anniversary of Disneyland.
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And the warm, wise farmer bear on PBS's Eleanor Wonders Why.
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Ellen's beloved husband Jay, her father and her mother are all watching over her life that is led with grace, creativity, and boundless humor.
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In her own words, I grew up believing that you have to appreciate everything in life.
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I pray we all look at life through the eyes of love.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Ellen Dubin.
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Beautiful angel, welcome.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm absolutely overwhelmed by that beautiful presentation that you just put up there.
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I just cannot believe that's me.
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It's really beautiful.
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Thank you for doing that.
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Are you kidding me, Ellen?
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Um, it is our pleasure.
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It's our gift to you every time, and it's really important.
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And the other thing, the other reason why I do it, it is important that we get the bio stuff out of the way, and then we get it out of the way.
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And then we're not like bumper stickers with a bunch of gifts, and I did this, I did that.
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Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
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Right away.
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Yeah.
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Um, it's such a pleasure, and it's I can't believe that we have we've known each other 40 years.
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Uh I'll get it, I'll get um Victor to put up that picture.
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We were only three, Allison.
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We were three.
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So just to point out from the from the right, if you're looking at the screen, I am the third in, sort of this attitude uh young chick.
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And then we go down the line.
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One, two, three.
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You're standing next to the character's name is Richard, but he played the character Richie, and you are next to Richie.
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Um, oh my God.
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I purposely taught her because uh she was a little bit awkward, Judy Turner from Tate.
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But she was from Texas, isn't it?
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And I love now looking at this, I did not realize that my physicality was really in the character.
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Like you, you've got that a sexy attitude, don't mess with me.
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And I've got this sort of like, hmm, I'm here, but I don't know, I'm nervous about this, you know.
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So it's it sounds like the postures are fantastic.
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They really are, and of course, uh, my role was Val, and she sings a song called Tits and Ass.
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And um, you know, you gotta you gotta fly.
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But you were mentioning about the microphones, they were so bad, like it was so bad.
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And I remember because we can see the uh sitch, but I remember the mic, I still have a scar from it.
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It cut me like every night I'd be okay, can we not get some body tape so I can, you know, it was crazy.
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But that was an amazing time, and it truly is still a music theater.
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My favorite musical period.
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I mean old school.
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Yeah.
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Oh my god, I know in the love anyway.
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Um now the other thing I wanna I I want to get to our connection and then we we move out.
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The other thing that I was so proud of, uh, and I mentioned it in this bio as well, you know, story, the link.
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Um, but I I had you featured in my book Finding the Light.
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And that was obviously a tough time for all of us, but may I read to you?
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Because you may not remember what you wrote.
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Do you want to hear a few beautiful things about what Alan Dubin wrote in this piece?
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Please remind me.
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Let's remind.
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Last week I received a phone call from a longtime friend of our family.
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She's a 96-year-old Holocaust survivor.
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She called to see how I was doing.
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She said, There's no order in life, no border in life.
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We will get through this and everything will be okay.
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For her to have reached out like that was probably one of the most moving things to me.
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She is one of my heroes, and I am beyond grateful to have people like her in my life.
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Wow.
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And guess what?
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She's still in my life, and I visit her when I'm in Los Angeles in Santa Monica.
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I call her my new grandma, and uh, she is so positive and fabulous and funny and ribled.
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And uh I make it a point to see her every trip because she's now my family.
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I I didn't know I'd written that.
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During COVID, it's kind of all a blur, as you know.
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And it's surreal.
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Yeah, she's still in my life, and I and I will have her in my life to me at the time.
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Oh goodness, so she is well, you do no, she must be over a hundred if I'm doing the math correctly.
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Actually, I thought she was 96, and she corrected me.
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She's 94 now.
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So she said, don't rush it, don't rush it.
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Well, what the heck?
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You know, we we did our best.
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Anyway, um, you know, the thing is about you, Ellen, and this is one of the many things, especially the depth, you know, if you look at your resume, and of course, this isn't only the only thing about Ellen Dubin, but certainly I know work is very important to us because it's an expression of the gifts we've been given.
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And for as long as we can, you know, be healthy to be able to do it, that's why we're going to continue.
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But the depth of you, um, and and to bring out that story specifically was so fantastic.
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And you're as goofy as possible as well.
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So the levels that you have access to is so much fun.
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Don't tell anybody that secret though, okay?
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Okay.
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That's right.
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That's your secret sauce.
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A depth-filled nerd, a goofy nerd?
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I like that.
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Thank you for pointing that.
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Well, go for it.
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Listen, Victor and I are my producer.
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We come up with all kinds of different ideas that you know, we just throw them out.
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If you want to use it, go for it.
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Listen, I always start our meetings off or our shows off uh with lighting a candle.
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And today I think it's apropos that I chose to do it a little bit later.
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And it just represents that the light in me recognizes the light in you, and we're all doing the best we can with what we got today.
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And so this will stay on to represent all of that good energy that you know what we all we all need.
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So let's get to you've done tons and tons.
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You are a sci-fi historian, as well as an I don't want to use this word, but I'm using an icon.
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I mean, you've done so much.
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What has been one of your favorite roles?
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Now, of course, that doesn't mean that all of them are not your favorite, but the one I will specify that really made you dig deep deeply into yourself or an experience that you felt challenged you as an actress.
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I would have to start with the stage first.
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Uh I think a director named Sean Malkay, may he rest in peace, thought I had something.
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And he gave me my first dramatic role after I did musicals called A Moon for the Misbegotten, who was a kind of a misfit woman.
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Uh, it was by the famous playwright Eugene O'Neill.
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And I got to work eight months in advance on it with the Irish accent and just get into that world.
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And I think that's when I realized I can do this.
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I was sort of flying by the seat of my pants, Allison, and not quite sure what I was doing in musicals and just going by boundless energy and having fun, and not that you shouldn't have boundless energy and have fun, but I didn't know what I was really doing.
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And working with him sort of was the start of my career where I knew, and my mother, who I always looked at, I looked to for approval in terms of if she liked it, then I knew I was doing something right because she was very what's the word, very um, I don't like the word picky, but very adamant that we always did our best work no matter what.
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So I looked to her as my light, speaking of candles, to tell me if this was really my instinct, and it was my gut instinct.
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And from there, I started doing more shows.
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So that was the one that I kind of believed, you know what, I can do this.
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So that was the theater.
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It started in the theater, Allison.
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I I love it.
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And you know, it's so sweet.
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Thank you for calling me Allison.
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You know, I I've gone by Allie for years, but the people that know me the best know me as Allison, you know.
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But it's so funny how you just sort of anyway, but I appreciate that.
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So yes, I am one and the same.
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Ellen, um now, of course, I'd love to go on and on about all all of the Star Wars.
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I was just thinking about Fallout 4, Dune, Lex, and and the whole world of Comic-Con.
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Like that is just so much fun.
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I see pictures of you, you send every once in a while, you'll call me whether whether you're going to your booth or you're just getting set up to go.
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What I mean, as performance, we're all about the audience, regardless of people say, well, performers have egos.
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Well, well, everybody does.
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Because we wouldn't be doing it if we didn't.
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We have to find it.
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We wouldn't exist.
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Everybody has an ego.
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The plumber has an ego, everybody.
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Of course, of course.
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Actually, the plumber's smart.
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I mean, my God.
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Yes.
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Oh, they're making a good living.
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Um, yeah, right.
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But um so, oh god, I lost my train of thought.
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It was gonna be such a good question.
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So about the two of us.
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I left my brain in my room.
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Oh my god, what the heck?
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There you go.
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The world of Comic-Con.
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Oh, the world of Comic-Con yes.
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There you go.
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What's it like just to speak to your fans who are just there to be a part of the experience, etc.?
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It is the most most incredible experience.
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First of all, I have to tell you, I never thought that I would be asked because I thought these shows are old.
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But in the world of Comic-Con or any of the conventions, everything old is new again.
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So they like to have, you know, there's a lot of retro or reunion casts.
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You'll see, you know, the cast of Lex or the cast of Once Upon a Time or whatever show you've done, the cast of this particular movie.
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So I went there skeptical the first time, and I was sitting there going, No one's gonna want to see me.
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And there were lineups.
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And I think the most rewarding thing for me at the Comic-Cons is that when fans come up to you, and you get repeat business, by the way, people will travel all over.
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I feel like I'm a rock star, you know.
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And um, people will travel all over to meet you, and they'll remember the lines of the show, and they'll remember something in your character that has changed their life.
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And it can even be a comedy, it could be a drama, it doesn't matter.
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And that to me is when you see them walk up to your booth and the smile is on their face, or they're holding a Funko Pop of Captain Phasma from Star Wars, or they're holding an old cover of a video, you know, remember those old videos, covers uh from videos, and they want you to sign it and they go, they recite the whole movie to you, the whole show, or they say, you know, you changed my life.
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I didn't want to, I hated high school, I was bullied in high school, and your strong character made me, you know, take control of my life, and I'm like, wow.
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You do not know, uh, Allie, Allison, the effect that your words can have, like even this podcast you're doing, you don't know uh sometimes it takes a couple of years, sometimes it takes a year, sometimes it takes ten years.
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The influence and the effect that your voice has on people or your appearance or whatever.
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I've had so many men and women, uh teenagers, kids come up, and I like also if they're on the spectrum, because at Comic-Con at any corporate, everybody is welcome, all shapes, all sizes, all ages, all colors, all everything, and nobody judges.
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So they can come to you in a costume that one of your characters wore, that they've sewn by hand and it's taken a year.
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I mean, there's nothing better.
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There truly isn't.
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Wow.
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See, this is why I love that.
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And we on the outside wouldn't get a sense of that.
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I remember years ago, one of my dear friends, Michael Learned, who was, of course, as you well know, Mrs.
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Walton.
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And, you know, she would talk a lot about like you talk about the reunions, of course.
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There we are.
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We have John Boy, we have Mr.
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Walton.
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Um, I can't remember his name, but but Michael is still with us, as you well know, and she is as vibrant.
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I mean, she had a Netflix hit like two years ago.
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It was um, oh gosh, the Dahmer.
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Oh, there she is, there we are.
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We did a show.
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I was I was the assistant director in driving Miss Daisy, and she was with Miss Daisy, of course.
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She also she also did that on Broadway and off Broadway.
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Yeah, but there we're anyway.
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We had so much fun, so that's why we became good friends, and then um just great, but she talked about how much joy she received from the audience um that wanted to talk to her about this episode and that episode and the memories, and and she loved it.
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And I think that that is just even today, she still loves it.
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So thank you for sharing that.
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I'd like to speak more about it, but we have other things to talk about, including you do have your feet on the ground, my dear.
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Like you you are doing some of the most famous movies, and there's this legacy that will carry, and it's so exciting.
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And I know you're doing characters, you're also doing voices, and I mean, like you said, your voice carries in so many different ways and and through time in many ways.
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How do you keep your feet on the ground with all of that?
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Well, let me say to your listeners that uh it would be uh absolutely foolish of me to say that there's always good days.
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So we are all human and we're all gonna have good days, bad days, horrible days, fabulous days.
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But how I keep my feet on the ground is I concentrate on looking after others and helping others.
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I find that when I'm talking to people and they have problems, I can take my mind off of my problems.
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And so it kind of keeps me earthbound.
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It doesn't make me focus only on myself because we're in a business where we are the product.
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So it can seem to some people that we're self-centered, and it's okay to, you know, have a good, strong sense of self, but I find what keeps me grounded is to focus on other people.
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And then I have music, I listen to music, I like to go to you know have good food at restaurants and have a good time and watch comedies and so there's all and look outside at the sky and trees, all that stuff.
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In no particular order.
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In no particular, can I just say that neither one of us spoke about the color?
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Sometimes I'll send out my outfit to my guests who just say, hey, by the way, just want you to know, and same color.
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I know different value, but same color.
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So that's yes, yes, yes.
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Interesting synchronicity.
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Yes.
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Sisters.
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Sisters, yeah, for sure.
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Um I have uh a bit of a clip.
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I wanna, we'll watch it together and then let's talk about it.
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What what kind of come comes out from it?
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I I actually can't remember what it is, so here we go.
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Let's look and then we'll be right back.
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In London.
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We were lined up to see this Miserables, and uh when Jay and I saw the show, we could not move after we saw it.
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And ever since then, I've known lots of people in it, our including Michael Burgess, who played our Zach in A Chorus Line.
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Everything goes full circle, doesn't it?
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And to see, first of all, I'm a huge fan of the of all of those men, Aaron Svite, the first singer, and then Alfie Boyd, who I think has done it now 18 years on Broadway.
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The song is a prayer of love.
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And uh I will you can uh kill me and take me God and let this young boy live.
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That theme is so poignant and so moving and it gets me and send shivers up my spine every time.
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It's just a stunning musical and a very uh profound piece in there.
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One of my favorite songs in that musical.
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Allie, you got me.
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Well, I gotta tell you, you got me, and um, I didn't know, of course.
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I mean, everybody loves Le Miz, and you and I, but the fact that your connection and the fact that I said, I don't even remember what I chose until of course I was intent when I wrote our show, but wow, you know, Ellen, I'm so glad that you spoke about it.
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There's something that we need to know about the live performance, like people are flocking to that.
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So even as technology allows us to do so many more things, create movies on the tiny screen and all that, and that's part of technology, and that's part of advancement, and all is what it is, but there is nothing, and I think your description of it and the chills.
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I mean, you gave me chills, just the creativity alone and being inspired by people and what they are choosing to give us.
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It's just magnificent.
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So, oh my gosh.
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And you are an incredibly creative person.
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I freaking love it.
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Thank you.
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Takes one to know one, seriously, and recognize that in each other, it's important.
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Yeah, that is very true.
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We are gonna take a very short break, but I do want where do we find you?
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Because everyone's going to want to be sure.
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Where do we find you?
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Into the woods.
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Into the woods.
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Oh, that's a beautiful musical.
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Okay, so at Ellen Dube Actor on Instagram, at Ellen Dub and Actor on Facebook fan page, and G-I-G-G-E-R-O-T-A 100 at Aol.com.
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Gigarata100 at AOL.com is my fan email, and I respond to everything.
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Every question, every every comment, and I really mean it.
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And if you forget that, it's on imdb.com.
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You can look that up.
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I have my fan email.
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And I do it every morning.
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I wake up early and respond.
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I know.
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I like it.
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I love this.
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But oh my gosh.
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You know, that is the greatest thing to know.
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And this is why I love this show because I get to speak to actors, but the the people who are doing great things, great things doesn't mean big, shiny, fast always, but it means meaningful, that it hits the heart, are all paying attention to who they're talking to.
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And the fact that you write to everybody personally, you don't have somebody a staff, you don't have some bot.
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And again, there's nothing wrong with the technology, but sometimes, my gosh.
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And it means the world exactly.
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Means the world to me.
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Yeah, too.
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I love it.
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Okay, we will be right back.
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Thank you for that.
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And we'll probably write that on the bottom so you for sure know and we'll spell it out for you like Ellen did.
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We'll be right back, and um, more good things with Ellen Dubin.
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I'm Allie Mang.
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For over 30 years, I've been obsessed with that's okay.
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Okay.
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No problem.
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Yeah, no problem.
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Okay.
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Uh what are we doing?
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Oh.
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Oh yeah.
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Ellen, this is one of my favorite segments.
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Are you ready for it?
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Ready for anything.
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Something from the desk of something from I love it.
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I know it should have been.
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I guess it should be bigger.
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I I mount it with such a big thing.
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What's on your desk today?
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Share with us, please.
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Some apple cider.
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A pen.
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Some quotes from famous people, sadly, who have passed away in the last two days, which I want to share with you because I always go with what's going on in the moment.
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Two more things.
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Kleenex, and I'm glad I had it for the lay Mizarapa section.
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And a brush or a comb to get rid of the flyaways.
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I'm going to show everybody what I do because I like to be, you know, be transparent here.
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There, I'm brushing my hair for you.
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Okay, that's pretty good.
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And what else do I have?
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Oh, it's pretty good.
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Glasses cleaner.
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Oh, wait, I got one of those too, sister.
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Yeah.
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Oh, please do.
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How can they?
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Well, I'm probably right now doing that.
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Let's have a little bit of a glass clean, shall we, as we move?
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Here we go.
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I'll see everything.
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Are there readers?
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No, these are full on.
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I oh and oh my god.
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No, though, these are full on.
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I finally had to cave in.
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Although, frankly, I can see you finding, you know, fabulous.
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And I love not wearing glasses, but frankly, for me to read anything back on.
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And we're fabulous.
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Um I I need to, before we get into the next, we we do need to um celebrate your beautiful Jay.
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I would just love for you to um just share whatever you want.
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I know he has not been here for some time.
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I I had the privilege of knowing Jay as well just a little bit.
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And of course, he was he and his family were such an important part of There You Are.
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Look at that picture.
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When was that?
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We were in Vancouver and I was doing the collector, and we went out to celebrate my first day on, I think, on the set.
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And it's a restaurant.
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You can see the, I think there's boats in the back, and Jay sort of likes that because he's mischievous in it, so I can't put that one.
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He's got that sort of cat got cat grin, you know, that thing.
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But uh Jay was extraordinary.
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And um one of the last things he said to me, and I think this is really important for your listeners, because when you know, as an actor, I'm doing my thing, but your life also takes a lot of precedence.
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And before he passed away, uh he said to me as strongly as he said, he said, you better continue doing what you do and caring about the world and acting, or I'll be very mad at you.
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You don't want me to be mad at you.
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And uh not laughing at it now, but you know, when you're sitting on somebody's bed holding their hand who you love truly, Matthew, deeply.
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It's um it was uh it's taken me a while because I know we're getting into grief right now, but it's part of my journey with Jay and my life, and uh how to step out and live your life when your whole chunk of your heart has been thrown away.
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Or so it seemed in the beginning.
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And I'm just it's eight years and I'm still I still can't believe it.
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I still can't believe it.
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But he taught me so much about, you know, the quote you started with, appreciation of life.
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Jay appreciated the little things.
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He knew details about people, and he taught me that.
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He taught me a lot about compassion, uh, a lot about it's not what I do in life or what my job is, because Jay was extraordinarily brilliant and very successful at his job.
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Um you know, he he was he ran City TV before it became a big, you know, bureaucratic conglomerate.
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But uh he was not his job, and he kept stressing, Ellen, if you don't book this, uh doesn't make you less of a person.
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And I know that seems like an obvious lesson, but we as actors, especially if we're starting out, or I think people who are just driven and a types, like the good actors or anybody in any business, we forget that we, this is a very important quote I teach my students when I'm talking about game acting, we are enough.
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And we forget that we're not the sum of our jobs.
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And he kept stressing that to me as well.
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And then he said, continue loving your mama, the lady loving mom and dad.
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His mom was still alive before he passed.
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So he was I still get notes uh from people saying, without your husband, I would not be where I am today.
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He started so many people's careers, he gave everybody the time of day.
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I remember we were at a restaurant downtown Toronto and there was a waiter there, and he knew who Jay was.
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And Jay could see he was a little bit shaky and nervous.
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He'd go, What's up?
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What do you want to ask me?
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And he said, I I have a script.
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And Jay Jay stopped him and said, Listen, here's my card.
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I mean it.
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Call me.
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Happy to read it, happy to give you 15, 20 minutes in my office.
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And he did, and the guy's script he he led him to the right person for that script.
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So he was always available and always there for people, no matter how high he went on the totem pole of business, which is extraordinary and says a lot about that.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And he said to me too.
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You sorry, you were his second favorite actress.
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Do you remember he used to say that to people?
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He would go, if he met another actor, and I go, Who's your first, Catherine Hapron?
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He goes, No, you're my first.
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So I didn't know if he knew that.
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I well, I totally forgot that.
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But listen, I'll take it.
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I'll take it, baby.
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Well, here is to Jay Switzer, and here's your mom and your dad.
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Here's to my whole family, too.
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And you know what?
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Let's let's say a prayer to all our lovely people who are watching down on us.
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And yes, we do need to drink.
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And Alison, I have to tell you something.
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I have to tell you something about this.
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This is really important.
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It's about you as well.
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You know, we've been friends for a long time, and sometimes we don't see each other all the time.
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But I found an email back and forth with us that sort of segues from this section, and it's called Bless Your Heart.
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And one of your favorite expressions is bless your heart.
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I reached out to you when your father passed at that time, and I gave you some advice about breathing and light, which is interesting about the email.
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And you wrote me back, Bless Your Heart.
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We have both been through so much, and we will get through it.
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So I just wanted to share that with you.
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I have the document right now, the email on my desktop, and I go back and refer to it.
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So we have been lifting each other up through all of our grief, through everything that you've been through as well.
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And it's a bond that we will always share.
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So I just thought that was an interesting thing that I found a couple of days ago.
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I love that.
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I love that you saw that.
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But you know, that's what 40 years gets you.
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We have a lot of stories.
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Somebody does not connect, you know, a lot of people run away from connecting with grieving people.
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And one of my things with this is I will reach out to somebody.
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You know, everybody approaches you in the first two, three weeks when somebody passes, but it's the year or two years or three years or four years where you email and say, hey, thinking about your dad, thinking about your husband, thinking about your brother.
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And it people are kind of surprised by it, but it's one of the things that I do, and I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but I just think it's such a nice thing to connect and bring the memory of the loved one to the forefront.
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You know what I mean?
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Oh, I agree a hundred percent.
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Um, and you're right.
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I used to say it, um, you know, I and again, you can't judge anybody because until you have been through, I mean, everyone really is doing their best.
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But I I I wrote about it in my book, and I said, it's we appreciate it all.
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And and you know, that's but it's when the casseroles start not coming to the door, and that those are the moments like, oh God, I'd really love to hear of somebody.
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And but you know what?
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There are there are moments I it's interesting.
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So you know, and I know that you've got a birthday coming up within very soon, like tomorrow, right?
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Okay, I want to show you.
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I I wrote something and I'm just gonna read, I'm just gonna read parts of it, not all of it.
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And I just do it the same way we approach sides, eh?
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Okay, this is my part, this is what I say.
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Okay, to the old self first, because she earned a kind goodbye, not a slam door.
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Old self, you were brilliant.
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You kept her alive through the years when there was no first chair and no life preserver, and she led, she had to swim back to the boat alone.
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You taught her to make herself small so she would not be a target, to apologize for taking up room, to prove and prove because it felt like love had to be earned.
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You ran on guilt and shame because that was the fuel in the tank at the time.
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Thank you, you did the job.
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And now gently, hush, you are not driving anymore.
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Climb into the back, rest your hands, close your eyes.
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She is safe now.
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She does not need you at the wheel.
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And now to the new self, the one who has been waiting at the edge of the stage.
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Expand with glee without one ounce of apology.
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Let her expand, let her take the whole stage, let her do it laughing.
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Oh.
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Can you send me that?
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I need to put that on my refrigerator.
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That is I'm gonna just take a picture of it.
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I'm not gonna do anything with it.
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In fact, there's like makeup on it just from today.
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That resonates.
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There you go.
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Wait a minute.
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There you go.
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But um, you know what?
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I did that, Ellen, on my birthday, and because it was a sad and a sweet, whatever.
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I mean, these are things that we choose to do when we choose to do it.
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But I needed to just do that and sort of anyway.
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So there you go.
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Thank you for listening.
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And um, if that resonates with anybody, do it for yourself.
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It was so much fun and to and to hush and say thank you to that little whatever was going on, right?
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Okay, what are we talking about now?
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Oh, are you ready for a one-minute tip?
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This is my one-minute tip section.
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Go for it.
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Are you ready, Victor?
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Allie's performance tip of the day.
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I really should we add some sound to that or something?
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We're gonna have to rethink the intro to that.
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Victor, you'll figure it out because you're brilliant.
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I'm the one who just has, oh, we're we're 49 seconds.
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Um, here is my one-minute tip, and it will be if you have never read this book, it's called Miracle in Maui by Paul Pearsall.
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He's actually long been away from us, but I'm gonna tell you if you just want to be inspired beyond and have logic and have creativity all welded into one.
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He's a beautiful writer, and I saw him speak years ago at uh a conference that my dad um was was running.
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And um he says this we make miracles by choosing a miracle view of our lives.
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That's my 10-minute tip.
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Or one-minute tip.
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That's it.
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I'm gonna get the book.
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It's such a good book.
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You will love it, love it, love it.
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You ready?
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Ready, go always.
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Go do your one-minute tip.
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Oh my god, my one-minute tip.
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Um sharing.
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Okay, don't let anybody rain on your parade more than ever.
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And if people are in your life and uh trying to knock you down, say thank you very much and walk away.
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Also, I'm gonna quote Dolly Parton.
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May she rest in peace.
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Find out who you are and do it on purpose.
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Sort of follows what I say.
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And Mr.
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Tim Curry today, here's my other tip from beautiful Tim who just passed away.
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Don't dream it, be it.
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Be it.
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Those are my tips.
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I didn't know Tim Curry died.
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My God, that was one of my first.
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I love Rocky Horror Pictures so so much.
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How many times did you see it?
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Well, I did a commercial when I first started commercials in Toronto and we did the time war.
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And I hadn't seen it for the audition.
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So, as I always do, I research it and I went, Oh my god, this is incredible.
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I've seen it 10, 12 times.
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Have you seen it over a hundred?
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It looks like it.
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Yes, yes.
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Have you done the single war?
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Oh, no, I've never done.
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I actually did the thing that we do, you know.
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I brought umbrella, toast, the paper.
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Um, I mean, oh yeah, it was all a thing.
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And you know, I experienced the experience, let's just say that.
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But my girlfriend and I, we got on the go train and we went every week and we were young.
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Like, I don't know how that we were grade eight.
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I don't know why my parents let us go.
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I don't understand it.
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We never partook until much, much later into the other parts of that crazy experience, but I loved it so much, and it is a great phenomenal and so unique.
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And he was in Lex, by the way.
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Oh, wow.
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Yes, it was four movies of the week, and he was one of the guest stars because it was originally on a US network called Showtime.
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So it was him, Rutker Hower, uh, Malcolm McDowell, and Barry Bostwick, who played uh Brad.
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Brad Brad.
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So Barry, I see at conventions, but this is an extremely sad day, you know.
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.320
So I I I just before the interview, I went, I gotta see what he said and what Dolly said.
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So wow.
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Well, of course they both transcend, don't they?
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And uh they stick with it.
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Um, we're up to our last segment.
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What time go?
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Boom, boom, boom.
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Um, okay, ready?
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They can be rapid fire or or you know, you can have some thought to it.
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Number one, rank these acting teachers top down and tell us your favorite and why.
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Stella Adler, Uda Hagen, Sanford Meisner, Lee Strasberg, Stanislavsky.
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Okay.
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So everything, every technique that an actor uses, as long as they're truthful and you want to pay attention to their performance, is valid.
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I studied with Uda Hagen's disciple, Carol Rosenfeld, so she is one of my favorites, but they all kind of lead to the best performance.
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So whatever technique works for an actor, I can't uh run them in order.
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But what I can tell you is quickly, Meisner focused on your scene partner more, and the response to the scene partner, Stanislavsky, who was the sort of the guru of everything, pursued psychological and emotional truths.
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Uda Hagen was more living truthfully under imaginary circumcircumstances.
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Strasbourg relied heavily on using psychological and using your personal life.
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And um, Majna was the opposite.
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He wanted the, oh, dare say the very opposite of that.
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Who was the other person?
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I think Uda Hagen.
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You got it.
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Uda Hagen was your last.
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Yeah, it lived truthfully under imaginary circumstances by using physicality.
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And I remember that when I was in her class, her disciples' class, uh, Carol Rosenfeld, she would say, This comb, is that your grandmother's comb?
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How many years was the comb there?
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That kind of thing.
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So it all works.
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And then when you're doing a show, whether it's voice or play or theater or film or television, you throw it away because it should be deep inside your guts already.
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So not one works for everybody.
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Everybody's got a different way of working.
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As long as it gets you to where it needs to get you as a performer, that's the best.
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I love that.
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And I will add one more thing because I too studied with Carol Rosenfeld.
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We were very lucky.
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Um, the thing that that she taught us um was knowing where you're coming from.
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Don't just like happen, like your life doesn't start just when on your first line.
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Yeah.
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Where did you come from?
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Yeah, done.
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And I actually created a selling strategy based on that, and I call it the new world strategy.
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:59.360
And it was so, you know, when you're in a scene or when you're in a selling experience, um, you know, you need to know where you're coming from.
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:06.239
So for me, selling on live television, just like you do, well, what's been happening today?
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What can we all relate to today?
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That may be something I bring up when I'm speaking on camera.
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You know, either let's give a moment to Dolly or let's give a moment to Tim Curry, and maybe there's a conversation about that, because that's the experience.
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.960
And then everybody is all on the same page all of a sudden.
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:33.920
Um, but the new world is when a new character comes into the play, then all of a sudden it's a new world.
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:38.400
So your character needs to adjust to where they came from.
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Now they're settled in with the script, whatever they're talking about, and then a new character comes in.
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:44.400
And now it's a new world.
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:53.599
So now you add it, and there's a continuum of building, and that's just the same way to approach it in a selling environment, particularly when we do it live.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:54.400
Fun, eh?
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.760
It gives a spontaneity and a realism as well.
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.119
I mean, if you're all technique, you can see it sometimes with a singer.
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I mean, if you're just hitting the notes or you're a ballet dancer and you're jumping high, there's no heart or soul or guts.
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.679
The techniques of all those people are all valid.
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:23.599
But if you don't put yourself into it and your guts, your heart, your soul, and throw everything out there, it's just gonna be um wooden, like a robot, like an AI that we're trying to avoid in some cases.
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:25.440
Yes, of course.
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.599
Um, the character you voice that lives closest to the real you.
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I use a bit of myself in everything, even if I play bad people like demons and monsters and weird AI.
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:51.280
But I would say the the part that most resonated with me voice wise is we're gonna go back to All the Pretty Shoes by Marianne Klein.
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I audiobooked her experiences during the 30s in Budapest Hungary during the Holocaust, and I have to Say that that to me was the most profound experience that I will carry with me through my whole life.
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:13.760
Um and in terms of kids stuff, I I want to talk about farmer bear.
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And Eleanor wonders why, because even though I'm not exactly farmer, I love the lessons that I teach kids without being condescending, and uh I get letters about farmer bear a lot saying, You taught me this and you taught me that.
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.599
So even though I'm not a a talking bear, I love the effect I have on kids with that show.
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.599
Wow.
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Oh my gosh.
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I love it.
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I did have five questions.
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You've answered all of them within our day.
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And uh did you have fun today?
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Because I'm so thrilled that we got together.
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:53.440
Me too.
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.519
I have one last quote I'd like to leave you.
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This is with a woman that I saw.
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I watched all those talent shows, and we're not just talking talent, and her name is Jane.
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.480
This one really resonates with me more than ever.
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I think the listeners before we go.
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You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide.
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And then she passed away right after.
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That resonates.
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You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy.
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Decide to be happy.
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Love it.
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That's the greatest way to end this gorgeous talk.
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Um, as always, the candle has been lit the whole time.
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I'm gonna blow it out.
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It represents that.
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We're all together.
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:47.360
We're all in this together.
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:56.559
If you've got some things happening right now, you just send out a deck to somebody, or you've got an audition, or whatever it is in your life.
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:57.519
You know what?
00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:58.880
The connection is there.
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:07.119
It's going to happen, whether it's this audition, this deck, this pitch, it's all happening because wonderful things are taking place.
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.559
Ellen Dubin, thank you so much for spending time with me, with us.
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:13.920
It was a pleasure.
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:15.679
I wish you all the best.
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.360
Have a super day.
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