How Genetic Testing Can Unlock Your Health Blueprint with Elwin Robinson

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All right, let's jump into today's Welcome back to the Functional Health Today
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show. If you are looking for a place to learn about alternative health,
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you are in the right place.
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On today's show, we are going to be talking about nurture versus nature.
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If you want to know what your DNA says about you, we are going to jump into
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genetic testing. My guest today had super low energy, he couldn't put on any
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weight, and he was feeling worse and worse, even though he was eating better and better.
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Driving into his DNA and his genetic testing unlocked a world of potential and
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completely changed his life.
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If you're somebody who has low energy, if you're putting on weight and you can't
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figure out why, or if you're losing weight and you can't figure out why, today's show is for you.
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Elwin Robinson, how are you doing this afternoon? You're joining us from across
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the pond. Thanks for staying up late.
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Very good. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be on the show. Thank you,
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Stephen. It is my pleasure.
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So where did this all start for you? So you're like losing weight.
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You're you have bad energy. You have horrible digestion.
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And somehow you ended up with genetic testing. How did this all start?
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Yeah, I had chronic stabbing pain in my abdominal area that painkillers didn't
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work for. And so every time I ate, the pain was worse.
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Every time I'd stress, the pain was worse. Every time I exercised, the pain was worse.
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So you can imagine, after a while, I stopped moving very much.
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I stopped eating very much.
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And I stopped engaging with the world very much. And so, you know,
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I was in a pretty bad place and nothing seemed to work.
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I saw all kinds of normal medical doctors, you know, private MRI,
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CT scan, blood test, none of those things worked.
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I went to a bunch of functional medicine kind of people, nutritionists,
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naturopaths, all those kind of people.
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None of that worked. I thought, okay, maybe it's a structural issue.
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So I went to see physiotherapists, osteopaths, chiropractors,
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all of those kind of people.
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None of that worked. Then I thought, well, maybe it's all in my head,
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especially, you know, when I go to medical doctor after medical doctor,
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and they kind of look at me like I'm a hypochondriac.
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So I'm like, okay, maybe it's something psychological.
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And so I learned about the mind-body connection and all of that kind of stuff.
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And I saw a therapist, I did trauma release work. I did daily meditation,
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like Joe Dispenza method, all this kind of stuff to try and rewire my brain and my nervous system.
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None of that worked either. And after years of being in this pain,
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I lost a lot of weight. I was always a bit underweight, but I'm six foot three.
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I got down to about 120 pounds, despite not wanting to lose weight.
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I looked, I guess, like an anorexic, maybe something like that.
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And, and I was, you know, I had constant anxiety. I couldn't sleep.
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I couldn't work. I couldn't eat barely.
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It was not a good position to be in, but especially when everyone said there's
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nothing wrong with you and painkillers didn't work and no drugs worked.
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So, so I tried everything and in a place of complete desperation,
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I, you know, I was basically researching health because
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it's the only thing I really had any motivation energy to do and
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I found this service that said you know if you've ever done a
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service like 23andMe before you can just upload your raw DNA they call it and
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we'll tell you all this information about you and about your health and I was
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like it's worth a try right as I said I was desperate and I was in a fortunate
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position to be able to afford all these things I know not everyone is you know
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so I did and And it blew me away how accurate it was, Steve.
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I mean, I've never seen a psychic or a fortune teller, but it was an experience
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that I imagine might be like that, where I was like, how could they know about these things?
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Are there cameras in the room? Have they been spying on me? Like what kind of things? Tell me.
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Well, you know, even stuff like personality stuff, like, you know,
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such as the big five personality traits, for instance, extroversion,
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introversion, agreeableness, disagreeableness.
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So each of all five of those were correct based on, you know,
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testing that I'd done before, personality testing I'd done before.
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But needing certain nutrients.
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I'd already done tests like a NutriVal that gives you a very detailed breakdown
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of what nutrients you are deficient in.
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And then I look at this genetic report and it says...
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You are low and down to specific amino acids. So like when I did NutriVal,
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it said, you're deficient in tyrosine, L-tyrosine, you're deficient in glycine,
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you're deficient in L-lysine.
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And then I look at my genetics and it says, you have an elevated need for tycine, glycine, lysine.
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It's like, what are the chances that there would be that exact match?
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So things like that impressed me on a lab level.
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And then in terms of just more kind of experiential stuff, It said that I was
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someone who was very not resilient to stress, which is true.
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I'd always been easily kind of stressed and found it very hard to calm down
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and kind of explained what the reason was there.
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And it gave me clues, which ended up working out what was going on with my digestive system.
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It gave me clues as to why nothing had worked and basically resolved.
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You know, it helped me resolve all the issues for myself when none of these
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other practitioners have been able to.
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And so I was like, okay, I'm going to get my wife to do it because you know
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what it's like when you find something you think is great, you want everyone
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else to try it and got my business partners to do it.
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And some of my friends do it. Some of my family members to do it.
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Some of my employees to do it. And maybe a couple of dozen people.
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And I'd been through it with them because again, you know, I was starting to
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recover some of my energy, but I was just so enthusiastic about this.
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And I was like, this is consistently so helpful.
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And, you know, I know we got limited time, but I could tell several stories
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about other breakthroughs that happened as a result of that process of other
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people who'd been struggling things for a long time.
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And, you know, this was the thing let's let's
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hear a couple i want to hear some of the things that came out of
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this and then we'll jump into the actual test itself
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what it means to upload it and what comes out
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of it sure sure well one was a business partner who was not into health at all
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he was a he's a marketing guy who was working you know a minimum 60 hour weeks
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for this this company and he was he had been complaining for a long time he
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thought maybe he was depressed he would wake up in the morning and he couldn't
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drag himself out of his bed, even though he had, you know,
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young screaming kids around him and stuff like that. And I said.
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Yeah, it could be depression, but you know, I'd said to him before,
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it sounds to me like maybe it's like the hormonal thing. And he said,
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okay, maybe it's low testosterone.
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I said, I said, I think it's low thyroid. I said, you need to go to see a doctor.
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And I'd said this to him, you know, for a couple of years, I said,
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I wasn't working, but I was probably working five hours a week,
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maybe something like that during this time at the most.
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And during those times, people would still complain to me because they'd say,
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how are you doing? And I'm like, oh, I'm really struggling. And then often they'd say, yeah, me too.
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So, you know, I'd hear about their problems as well.
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And so he was one of those people who was you
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know i'm very grateful to him he kept the business going to some
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degree while i was not doing much and so i wanted to
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help him on all kinds of levels right but he just refused to go and see a doctor
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so then i said you want to be part of this new so then i decided to you know
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long story short i decided i want to create a genetics business like this i
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want to help people the only problem with the system i used it was it was really
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complicated it's kind of more directed to practitioners and it was quite expensive i was like,
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I'd love a system like that, but it's simple enough for the average person to
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understand and cheap enough for the average person to afford.
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So that was my goal. I didn't know how I was going to manifest it yet.
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As I said, I wasn't well yet, but that was really what I wanted to do.
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And I wanted him on board, but I said, if you want to be on board with this,
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you have to try it for yourself, right?
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So that's the only way I could convince him to try it because otherwise,
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you know, he's one of those typical men who doesn't want to,
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you know, do anything medical or know anything about his health.
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So he's like, all right then. So he does it and, you know, The results in his
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case took a while because he'd never done a DNA test before,
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but he got the results back.
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And the first thing that showed up for me, the first thing that I saw,
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there's a lot of information there still, but the hypothyroid rapport was one of the highest risk.
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And sure enough, he was in the 99th percentile for hypothyroidism.
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So I showed him that and explained what it meant and stuff like that.
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And it was enough to convince him to actually go to a doctor.
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He's like, okay, so this could be what's going on.
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This is why my energy is so low, right? So he goes, and it turns out not only
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does he have hyperthyroidism, he actually has Hashimoto's, which,
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you know, is something that will, you know, it's where your immune system basically
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is destroying your own thyroid gland.
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And if you ignore it, then eventually you're going to have much more serious health problems.
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Often other more serious autoimmune problems show up eventually,
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you know, whenever there's one, I think there's an average three autoimmune issues.
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So it was really important to get on top of that as soon as possible.
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And yeah, and so he turned it around and you know, now he's doing great again.
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And I'm allowed to tell that story.
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Confidentiality is very important, but he's talked about that on his podcast.
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So I know I'm allowed to tell that one.
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I mean, that's super, super interesting. Talk to me a little bit about like
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diet, exercise, supplements, all of that together.
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Like if somebody is having a hard time and they get one of these reports,
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is it going to show them what they should be eating, what supplements they should
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be taking, what their energy level is. I mean, it showed him hyperthyroidism.
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What other things does it show in the report?
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Yeah, I mean, so many. Let's say someone comes with, you know, a symptom of low energy.
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The problem is, if you go to a doctor, even a very good functional medicine
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doctor with that, there's so many things that it could potentially be, right?
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If a functional medicine doctor were to run every test that could be a cause
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of low energy in general, you know,
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chronic health issues, because often, along with that go things like digestive
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issues and brain fog and, you know, maybe blood sugar imbalances and maybe dry skin.
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Maybe, you know, sinus issues, all of those kinds of things,
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they often come as a cluster together because when, you know,
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a person's energy load generally is not enough energy for what I call more the
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luxury functions of the body, like the immune system and the digestive system and the.
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Detoxification system and the systems that are like more parasympathetic based.
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And so there's so many things it could be, right?
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It could be some kind of nutrient deficiency. If so, which one, right?
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It could be magnesium, could be B1, it could be zinc, it could be B3,
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it could be B7, You know, I could, could be Foley, could be B12.
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I could go on and on and on about all the, it could be D3, about all the different
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nutrient things it could be. It could be a toxicity, right?
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Could be mycotoxins, could be heavy metals, could be PCBs.
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It could be pesticides, you know, organophosphate, stuff like that.
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Again, it could be limes. There's so many different things it could be.
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Could be some kind of chronic infection, could be SIBO, you know,
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could be something going on in the sinuses. It could be a lifestyle thing.
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Maybe they're not getting enough sleep.
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Why are they not getting enough sleep? Have they got sleep apnea?
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Do they have an issue getting into the delta wave of sleep? It could be a hormonal
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imbalance. Maybe their thyroid function is low.
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Maybe they're hypoglycemic. Maybe they're insulin resistant.
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Maybe their testosterone is too low. Maybe their progesterone is too low.
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Maybe their estrogen is too high. Maybe their estrogen is too high.
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That's just off the top of my head. There's so many things it could be,
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and there's so many things you can test for.
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And so what I love about the genetic platform is that at a relatively very,
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very, very inexpensive price compared to how much it would cost to test even
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a fraction of that, you can get, in our system, over 500 reports.
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They're based on over 200 million SNPs. So we're looking at...
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We're processing a vast amount of data compared to most companies.
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We can go into that if you want, but basically it's based on as broad a selection
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of data points as possible rather than limited.
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So it's very, very accurate compared to most other systems out there.
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And so it can tell you as a practitioner, if you're a practitioner listening
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or as an end user, if that's who's listening, it can tell you what to focus
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on, what's most likely to be the problem.
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Just like the example that I gave my friend there, because he could have been
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right, it could have been depression, which is more brain inflammation, right?
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It could have been low testosterone as he was also suspecting.
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It could have been low cortisol.
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It could have been low b12 it could have been this that and the other right so it helps
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you to narrow down as to what the most likely suspects are
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so you can then test and sometimes test
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means a blood test but sometimes like let's say you think it
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might be b12 deficiency well the easy way of taste you know
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testing that's probably just to take a high dose of b12 and see if
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you feel better right so but it gives you that information
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to to try something until something works
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and as i said for me it wasn't as simple as one thing i've acquired
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a few clients since then who one thing can completely
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transform the whole world to a shocking degree and i'm
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happy to give an example of that if you like but you know often it's not
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quite as simple as that there's like a few factors yeah
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well can we talk about can we
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talk about diet and what does what does
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it show you about diet and what does it show you about exercise because
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this is we were talking a little bit before the show 30
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years ago very few people were obese you go back
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50 70 years there was almost no obesity almost
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no one was overweight and we ate way more we ate more calories we ate more sugar
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we ate more of everything but it was it was maybe a little bit more whole foods
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less processed but what like so i would tend to take the nature over nurture
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like it's not our dna it's not your dna you're not you might be big boned,
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but you're overweight because you're eating a bunch of junk processed food.
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Yeah, well, a lot of things, but let's look at weight loss for a second,
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right? Because as you say, there is a, you know, obesity epidemic afflicting both of our countries.
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So you're absolutely right. You know, the studies in America,
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especially interesting in the USA, I've seen studies that a hundred years ago,
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people in the US, their average calorie consumptions was between three and 4,000 calories.
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They were already eating a decent amount of refined sugar, you know,
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maybe as much as a hundred grams a day on average, something like that.
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They were eating a lot of saturated fat.
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They were eating more whole foods. That's true. But still, you know,
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most of the things that are blamed these days they were having.
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And yet there was only a tiny amount of obesity, right? The obesity epidemic
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has been kind of crawling up over the last 100 years, but it especially accelerated
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during the late 80s and 90s. It really flew up.
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And there's all kinds of things that are considered to maybe be a causative factor for that.
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Usually, different types of toxins are top of the list, whether they're foodborne
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toxins like seed oils or the injectable toxins, we probably shouldn't be talking about.
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But whatever it might be, there's something that seems to be disturbing the
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metabolism, disturbing the mitochondrial function of the cell.
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So 100% I'm aware of all that, and I agree with all that.
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However, I will say on the other side, I have seen people who are absolutely
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doing everything right.
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They're eating well, they're not smoking, they're not drinking alcohol,
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they are limiting their calories, they are exercising, they're getting fresh
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air, they're getting sunshine, they are meditating all the things you're supposed
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to be doing, and they can't lose weight.
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And so I don't want to say to those people, you know, it should be just as easy for you as anyone else.
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There's no genetic factor to it. You're just being, you know,
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whatever, silly, or you must be lying. you're probably eating more than you're saying or whatever.
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I do think there's something more to it. And there's a bunch of different things
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that could be. I just talked about thyroid, right?
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I think there's a reason why a hundred years ago, thyroid was routinely treated.
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As far as I'm aware, about 20 to 30% of people were given thyroid medication.
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And that's because suboptimal levels of thyroid hormone and suboptimal metabolism is pretty common.
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There's theories about as to why One of the theories is that before the invention
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of antibiotics, people who had low thyroid function would also have weak immunity,
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and so they'd just die as children. They wouldn't even survive to adulthood.
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But once antibiotics were invented, then they were able to survive to adulthood,
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and now you have people with all these chronic health conditions who might never
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have even survived to adulthood in the first place before the invention of antibiotics,
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or before all the improvements in hygiene that we've had in the last 150 years, clean drinking water.
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Washing your hands with soap, and, you know, not handling waste and then putting
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fingers in your mouth, all the stuff that's changed relatively recently,
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right? In the last 150 years or so.
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And in some countries still is a problem, right? But they don't have clean water
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and stuff and they are more likely to die of infectious diseases.
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So anyway, it could be thyroid function could be part of it.
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And I know that's a, some people think that's an excuse. Like,
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you know, people say, oh, I'm not fat because of my diet, because of my slow
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fire. And it's like, ha ha ha.
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But I absolutely think that it is a real thing. and the proof of it is this.
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If you take someone with high enough thyroid function, it is impossible for
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them to gain weight, for them to gain weight, no matter how much you eat.
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If you get someone with hyperthyroid function, which means that the thyroid
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is producing an excess of thyroid hormones, especially active T3 hormone.
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That you can feed them 4,000 calories a day, 6,000 calories a day,
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8,000 calories a day, they still won't put on weight.
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And thyroid function is not binary like most medical things.
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It's not like it's either fine or it's slow or it's fast. It's a spectrum, right?
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It could be perfect. It could be slightly slow, slightly fast,
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medium, slow, medium, right?
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So the point is, if your thyroid function is maybe slightly above average.
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You can be one of those people like you may remember you were when you were
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younger in your teens or 20s who can eat as much as you want and never gain weight.
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That's a possibility. Now, why else might the metabolism be slow?
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You know, there's lots of other things that can do it. All kinds of toxins can
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slow down on the metabolism.
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One of them that's being thrown around at the moment is seed oils, right?
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We talked about 100 years ago, 1% of our diet was seed oils.
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Now about 30% of our diet are seed oils.
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Why is that a problem? Because it has high levels of something called linoleic
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acid, which is omega-6 fatty acid. What do omega-6 fatty acids do?
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Well, one of the problems is that they increase inflammation.
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Another problem is that they slow down their metabolism and they slow thyroid function, right?
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So I actually do think there's a thing to it.
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The skeptics say it's just about calories in, calories out. It's just about
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how much you eat and how much you exercise and there's nothing more to it.
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But what I always say to that is, okay, but the calories out portion of that
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is not just to do with how much you exercise. In fact, how much you exercise
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is not that much of a big deal.
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It's the rate that your metabolism burns energy is the more important element of calories out.
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And the rate at which your metabolism burns energy, there's all kinds of genetic
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factors which can have a significant influence on that, especially if the organism,
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so you, is already under stress for a bunch of other reasons.
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Because you're flooded by blue light rather than natural sunlight or red light.
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Because you never get fresh air, because there's toxins everywhere in the environment.
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You know, all of that stuff other than eating can also have an impact and lead
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to a position where you can't lose weight even when you're doing what everyone,
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you know, what your personal trainer or whatever is telling you to do.
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So, I mean, do genetics show, like, I know we're talking about,
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like, hyperthyroidism.
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I want to go a different direction. When I got mine done, it was,
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you know, you're going to have a very high reaction to caffeine.
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That was one of the things that came out of it.
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Are there some people who are better at breaking down carbs than other people? Yes.
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Some people that are better at, you know, they're meant to eat red meat,
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whereas other people- That's going to be my next example.
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Yes, thank you. Yeah, so to go to your food part of it. So just as there are
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hormonal differences, as I've probably spent too long talking about,
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there are food differences, the way we respond to food, right?
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So carbohydrates is one of our favorite reports in Genesic Insight.
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So some people are the normal type, about a third of people, maybe 40% of people.
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But about 30% of people are what we call a farmer type. And about 30% of people
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are what we call a hunter-gatherer type.
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So the farmer type means that your ancestors going back a long way have probably
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adapted to having a large amount of carbohydrate, even partially refined carbohydrate,
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as a staple in your diet, right?
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As far as we know, evolution-wise, right, like 30,000, 40,000 years ago,
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that's when humans started, you know, becoming agrarian and,
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you know, living off grains, especially like ancient Egypt.
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They're all living off just grains. That's the kind of thing.
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Okay, so your ancestors may be coming from that.
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The people whose ancestors are coming from that, they can have a large amount of carbs.
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They can even have quite simple carbs.
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There are people curing themselves of diabetes and there are people losing weight, by the way.
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Eating table sugar all day, eating potatoes all day, being on a fruitarian diet.
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I know this is like absolute blasphemy to the keto person, but I've actually
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never seen a fat fruitarian either.
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Like if you eat only fruit all day, it's nothing but fructose,
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right? It's nothing but sugar, but you can lose weight. And that works for some people.
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There are some people though who are more the hunter-gatherer type who they're
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even not that distant ancestors completely didn't have access to carbohydrate
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or very limited amounts.
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So Native Americans are an obvious example of this. Inuits are an obvious example
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of this, right? They just never adapted to carbohydrate.
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But I would say even Scandinavian, European ancestry, that kind of thing,
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it's not a high carbohydrate climate.
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And so they're just not adapted to it.
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And so those people, they should absolutely avoid any kind of simple carbohydrate
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and kind of refined carbohydrate, like table sugar, yes, but also white rice,
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white bread, all that kind of stuff. And even complex carbs don't do very well for them.
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And they're better off having, you know, at least keto-ish diet if they want to lose weight.
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Because as soon as they have carbs, their body acts like it's in a kind of pre-hibernation
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stage and it's at least immediately starts putting it on as fat because it's
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expecting to be in that kind of, you know, deficiency of calories soon.
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So, and in terms of saturated fat, like you said, you know, there's a lot of
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talk that used to be about how, you know, first of all, it was that seed oil
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is a good few, right? This is the 1980s, 1990s, the margarine instead of butter thing.
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Then more in the last 20 years, it's been talking about the Mediterranean diet
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and how it should be olive oil and these monounsaturated fats.
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And then these days, and I'm seeing in the last five to 10 years,
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suddenly it's saturated fats, right?
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It's coconut oil that's good for you. And there's this push now to replace McDonald's
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fries with tallow instead of seed oils, right? Which is another saturated fat.
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The truth is I love saturated fat, but honestly, the truth is some people,
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if they eat a large amount of saturated fats, they put on weight.
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That's just the way it is. And for some people, they are much better at usually
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having monounsaturated fats.
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For some people, they do well with a lot of fats, but some people do well with
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a very small amount of fats.
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A lot of, this is kind of recognized and there's a lot of systems out there
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like, are you the carb type or are you the fat type?
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You know, like the metabolic typing diet, right? Are you the fast oxidizer or
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are you the slow, the blood type diet, right?
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Are you the blood type A or blood type? But I have found it's not as simple as that.
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Genetics, this is why we don't have one report. We have a bunch of them,
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like one for each of these factors.
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There are some very lucky people out there who do great with protein,
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who do great with every type of fat and who do great with every type of carb.
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I've seen a very unfortunate amount of people as well who really struggle with
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protein, really struggle with any type of carb, and really struggle with every
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type of fat. That happens too. What should they eat?
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Well, in that case, I usually advise to have the best, most easily assimilated version of all three.
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So for instance, for fat, I might say use more MCT oils and stuff like that
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because it's easier for your body to burn and tend to a fuel than most other forms of fat.
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You know with carbohydrates we need something that is
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you know pretty high glycemic and keep
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it to a minimum ish with protein then we
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got to work out what the right type is that the body has the least reaction
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to you can tell all of that from a genetic test and so much more yeah i mean
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we are literally this is the tip of the iceberg of the amount of information
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we can get we've literally talked about the contents of maybe five to ten of
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you know in our system currently over 500 bowls. Yeah.
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Okay. So let's, let's take it a little bit high level. We've talked about diet.
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We talked a little bit about nutrition. Uh, we talked about hyperthyroidism.
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What are some of the other big pains that people have that this can solve?
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So energy levels, diet, what else are some of the big things that they would
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learn from their genetic report?
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So just so you guys know we are linking the site down below.
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You have the tests available there. I looked, it was 195 bucks, I think.
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As I said, the most helpful, breadth, and accurate information you could possibly
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get for your health, from my estimation.
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And does it change? Would this change over like a 10-year period if somebody
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got their 23andMe or any of that done 10, 15, 20 years ago?
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Is it is that valid data can they upload that
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yeah the data that i uploaded was from 2013 i
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don't think 23andme was around 20 years ago but every every iteration of 23andme
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or ancestry that i've come across their data is downloadable and uploadable
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to our system yeah so going back i think at least 2011 so whatever that is 13
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years which is yeah you know the vast majority of people,
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So yeah, when you did the test, it doesn't matter much.
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I mean, there's a very slight difference in what they evaluated,
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but it's not enough that it makes a significant difference, like a dent in the accurate results.
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Because, as I said, our company's quite unusual. We are looking at so many data
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points before we come to a conclusion.
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A lot of other companies, they'll look at one SNP, which is a variation in your
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genetic code, one variation in your genetic code.
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And then they'll say, because you have that, oh, this means this,
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and you have a higher this for this and you have to take this supplement off
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and they'll try and sell you something.
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Like, we'll look at it and we'll say, okay, for instance, for anxiety,
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just to answer your question, emotional health and mental health is one of the
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big categories as well that we can help with.
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For anxiety, we're evaluating, I think it's 1.3 million, roughly,
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different SNPs in order to come to the risk score that we then give you.
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And we don't only give a risk score, we also give recommendations.
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So we say, based on your unique genetic profile, these are the things that would be helpful.
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And we give it to you in the order of how likely it is to be helpful for you based on your genetics.
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So it's fairly sophisticated. There is still a lot to it.
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That's the one way I slightly failed in my mission is some people still get
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overwhelmed at the amount of information that is available, even though we try
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and make it as simple as possible.
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But the way I encourage people to see it these days, it's like a thesaurus of you.
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It's not like you have to go through every report and
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read every page of every report it's like but it's like if
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you ever want to know anything about yourself we'll probably have a
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report about it you can you can find out all about you know
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if you have a risk for it or if you have an increased need for a certain nutrient
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or if you have an increased problem with a certain toxin or allergen and so
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yeah i guess that goes back to your other question you know what else can it
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help with so people do it because the allergies intolerances sensitivities we
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have about 40 reports on that So obvious stuff like gluten,
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dairy, egg allergies, but also stuff that most people wouldn't think about like oxalate,
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histamine, salicylate, mycotoxins, all that kind of stuff. We have reports on that.
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Anti-aging, you know, just longevity and all the things that can contribute to that.
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Blood sugar balance is a big one, both in the obvious sense of diabetes and
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stuff like that, but also hypoglycemia, insulin resistance, which many people
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these days think is the root cause of, you know, most disease.
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Or something you can find out about brain health, you know, memory, clarity, focus.
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Do you have a tendency for maybe a decline of cognitive function?
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And if so, what can you do about it? Cardiovascular health, detoxification.
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Besides just showing these things, you're actually giving advice on them as well.
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You're saying, so this is what the report shows and this is what could help
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correct that or balance that out.
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So if it shows, let's take heart health. What does it show you on cardiovascular
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and what would be, I'm just going to pick that one as an example.
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That was the last thing I heard you say. Yeah, great example.
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So, you know, these are categories I've been reading out. So in the heart health
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category, there'll be several dozen different reports and some of them will be very specific.
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Like there'll be one just on LDL cholesterol, for instance, and there'll be
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one just on APOB, which maybe people might test, but there'll also just be like
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a heart health report. So that's the most global one, right?
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And so, yeah, in the heart health report, it's going to say,
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you know, we've investigated whatever it is. I think it's 30-ish thousand SNPs.
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There'll be like a page, a couple of pages that tell you this is your risk score.
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Often we'll give it in like a percentile. So we'll tell you,
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you know, are you normal risk, high risk, low risk?
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Usually we'll be able to tell you a percentile. For those nerds who actually
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want to do investigation, we'll list, you know, these are some of the most important
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genes and steps and you can, you know, with links to, you can do more investigation about it.
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But actually the majority of the report, as you say there, Steve,
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is the recommendations.
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So it'll be like, okay, recommendation number one, and it may be,
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you know, high intensity interval training.
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Recommendation number two for you, you know, it's a Mediterranean diet,
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meditate, recommendation number three, meditation, whatever it might be,
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right? I'm just picking these off the top of my head.
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And so with every recommendation, pretty much every sentence is cited with civil citations.
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So the good thing about these reports is you can forward them to your normal
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medical doctor. They might not listen because some medical doctors don't listen
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to anyone, including other medical doctors.
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But at least if they're open-minded, there's nothing unscientific about this.
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Everything is 100% cited and sourced.
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It also gives you a score for evidence and it gives you a score for impact.
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So generally, the lifestyle stuff is more highly scored in that regard.
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So, you know, for instance, exercise for heart health, that's probably going
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to get a 5 out of 5 for evidence and impact.
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There may also be something about coenzyme Q10 or magnesium or Hawthorne or something like that.
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That will tend to be lower in the list, and that might only have an evidence
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score of 2 out of 10 or something like that because, unfortunately.
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Because there's no money in it, there's not much research into those kind of things comparatively.
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But you know we give you those recommendations as well so the recommendations are lifestyle diet,
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and supplement perfect well i
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just want to say thank you so much for coming on it's been
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really cool to talk through all this and it is it is an awesome world we live
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in i mean 25 years ago you couldn't do any of this stuff right ellen you put
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together an amazing amazing tool sorry it's okay i'll just add even 10 years
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ago that was what blew me away about this more steve that when i did my 23 of me,
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if I'd have known that I had all these genetic risks, I could have saved myself
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five years of agonizing pain and suffering because I could have prevented all
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this stuff happening in the first place.
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But service like this just didn't exist yet, you know?
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So that's why I'm so excited, as you say, to be able to offer this because there's
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so many people who are suffering, I know, but there's also many more people
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who I'd love to help them prevent having those kind of levels of problems in the first place.
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Awesome. Well, we are linking it down below. Thank you so much for giving us the code.
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We'll make sure the code is in the show notes as well. It's pretty easy. It's FHT, all capitals.
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That'll get you 25% off. We will list this down below.
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I just want to say thank you so much for coming on and shedding so much light
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on this. It's absolutely awesome. The amount of data that you can get.
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I mean, having the knowledge, knowledge is the cornerstone of putting together
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your own health plan, being an advocate for your own health.
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And this sounds like it gives you everything that you need all in one place.
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Last question. Does it show food allergies? Food allergies are probably one
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of the things that people ask about more than anything else.
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Yeah, a hundred percent. Like I said, it tells you the obvious stuff like egg
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allergy, celiac, gluten, wheat, dairy, lactose, but also all kinds of things
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that you might not think of like histamine, glyphosate,
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organophosphate oxalates salicylates even sun sensitivity we've added in now
00:33:08.906 --> 00:33:13.906
mycotoxins caffeine as you mentioned earlier yes we have there's maybe like
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a three dozen allergies in there as well,
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awesome well we'll link that down below ellen thank you so much for coming on
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and sharing so much i appreciate it thank you steve my pleasure to everybody
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else out there make sure you check out the link down below for less than 150 bucks,
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Make sure you check it out as knowledge is the key to you being an advocate for your own health.
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We'll see you next time on Functional Health Today. Have an awesome day, guys.
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