Episode 283: Interview with Evan from West Virginia

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The following presentation isn't del Marvis Studio's productions.
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From around the world. It's time for another edition of
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the Flat Earth Files podcast as we record on this Wednesday,
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July fifteenth, twenty twenty six. I pray this message finds
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you well. We have a guest, Evan, who is standing
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by from West Virginia, who will be joining us in
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just a moment. Just a couple of quick reminders, please
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do stop by the website. It is Foundations Infaith dot net.
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We have twenty four to seven streaming radio, a prayer wall,
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and so much to do there. Our books are available again,
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that's Foundations and Faith dott it and of course if
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you'd like to join us like Evan is today, the
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email address is fe filesguest at gmail dot com and
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all those links can be found in the podcast description.
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And without any further ado, we are going to West
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Virginia and we're joining Evan. Evan, thanks so much for
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your time.
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Man.
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How are you.
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I'm great, George. It's once again, it's good to finally
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meet you. I know we've been emailing back and forth
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for a couple of years, and I chickened out the
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first time you asked me on, but I made it back.
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I hope it goes well.
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All things in God's time, and we got the audio
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squared away. You sound great, so again, please do intro.
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Introduce yourself to the audience. Where you're from and how
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you came to this whole flatter thing.
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Yeah, my name's Evan Hall. I was born in West Virginia.
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I bought a house in elk Few about eight years ago,
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and I grew up in the church. I was always
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a believer. I believe that all scripture is God breathed.
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It's good for teaching and correction. Yeah. I'm a skydiver too.
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I forgot to mention that I'm amateur, terrified of heights.
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I saw that movie Point Break, and I swear to
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myself I was going to do it. I'm trying to
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get my license now, but I've ran out of money.
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But I have eight jumps in and I'm trying to
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go back and do it again. As far as biblical
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cosmology goes, I do believe it's flat. I think flat
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Earth has got a lot of you know, the propaganda
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of a disc floating in space. That's obviously not what
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we believe. But it was like the I've always believed
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in God, I've never questioned it, but it's like, you know,
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I was baptized when I was eleven, but once I
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found out the truth biblical cosmology, it was the missing key.
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And you're not going to see this until you actually
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the skills have fallen from your eyes. But we take
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a lot of scripture and we twist it and try
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to misinterpret interpret it to make the Bible fit Helio centrism,
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and they cannot both be true. There are two completely
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different stories. And when people wake up and see that,
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it's a total game changer, and it's beautiful. It's a
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lonely road, like I feel like I'm all by myself
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with you all on the podcast. But the hunger I
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have for God's word now as compared to you know,
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I'll just say it. I was a lukewarm Christian for
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a lot of my life. I wasn't going into scripture,
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I wasn't thinking about it, I wasn't reading it daily.
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I wasn't in prayer like I should have been. But
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when you find out the truth of God's word, so amazing, George.
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It's just talking to God and knowing that he's right
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above us. It's a beautiful feeling.
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Yeah, it sure is a game changer. And you said
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a lot of things that really hit home, and it
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is number one, A lonely road. That's probably one of
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the top three subjects of the emails I get. Is
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as a matter of fact, we have a gentleman come on.
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I think in August. We're still working on an exact date,
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but he's going to share his kind of trials and
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tribulations of how his life is changed with relationships and
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things of that nature. Since you know, coming on to
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this information, and you know, before biblical cosmology, like yourself,
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I was baptized as a teenager, always believed in Christ,
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believe in God, but it was a completely different kind
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of relationship where you know, I thought God was in
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this different realm, if you will. Yeah, And I just
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read the Bible. I didn't understand how to read it,
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how you should read it. And once you come to understand,
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like you said that, the scales really changed. And now
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you understand how you're supposed to read scripture. You know
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who wrote it, who was it written to, why it
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was written, how it can be applied. You know, we
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just don't read it and people are very big about
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taking a verse and trying to justify some things. But
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when you're doing expository scripture, there's a lot that goes
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into this. And I used to just read it. Now, well,
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what word is that you click on the lexicon and
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you understand what it means and instead of just saying,
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what's this firmament? Anyway, I'll just keep reading, right.
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Yeah, And the firmament is such a huge issue too,
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And I've never had a sermon on the firmament. A
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lot of people don't think about it, but it's such
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a grandiose thing, like God spent all of Day two
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creating this firmament, and the sun, moon and stars are
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in the firmament, and they're for light for the earth,
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like it's all for us. And you know, this is
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where God put his throne. He built it on the firmament.
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And it's quite a coincidence that in Revelation it speaks
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of the Emeralds, the callers of the Throne, and that's
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just the same as the Northern lights. I truly believe
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that that's God's glory in God's throne in the northern lights.
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But yeah, let me back up a little bit. I
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would like to give a shout out to Josh Monday
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because when I really started studying these things, I texted
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this dude so many times, and Josh Monday's kind of famous,
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you know, but he always got back to me. He
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always gave me an answer, sent me a link or
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something to find out. He actually volunteered to teach a
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zoom class on biblical cosmology to the church I was attending,
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but they wouldn't let him do it because I'll get
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into this. He didn't. The elder didn't like what he
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said about the moon landing. So I'm like, well, what
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does that have to do with anything? But that's that's
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a whole other story.
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Uh.
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But I wanted to I wanted to ask you, George,
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have you have you heard of Nephelin Death Squad? Uh? Yeah,
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I have, okay? Uh? And that Brohemian grove.
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Yes, I got a lot of Is that the one
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in Florida?
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Yeah?
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I asked you to go to it.
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Yeah, there's one in Florida. And then somebody was it
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might have been you pardon me if it was. But
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somebody said something's happening in Connecticut in a few weeks.
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Oh, I don't know about that. Oh maybe they didn't
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mention something about that. Ah, but yeah, let me tell
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you a little story about last year. I went to
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that Brohemian grove and let me just lay the groundwork. Okay, okay.
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So when I went, it was last summer. You know,
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I spent all my money getting this car. I had
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to rent a car. I didn't want to take my vehicle,
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so I'd spent my last dollar getting down there. And
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the girl that I was dating, you know, I was
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pretty much engaged to her, like I loved her completely.
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That has no relevance, but I just want you to
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know where my mind was at. But the relationship at
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ran its course, and I was grasping its straws trying
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to make it work. And we were, you know, vickering
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back and forth on the phone. Things wasn't going good.
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I had ripped my kitchen and my bathroom off my
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house to remodel it, tore it all the way down
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to the dirt. So I put myself in that situation.
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I had been kicked out of my church, not specifically
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like don't come back, but it was made known to
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me that we don't want you to participate in the services,
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give prayer, preside over communion, Like they took me off
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the list completely when they found out that, you know,
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I didn't believe in NASA. I guess, so, are you serious? Yeah,
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it's I'll get into that story.
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Okay.
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It was kind of like they gave me the cold shoulder.
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Where was I at?
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Oh?
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Yeah?
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And then right before the event in Florida, I was
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getting ready to leave the hotel, I got a phone
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call from the guy that was supposed to be checking
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on my chickens. I had twenty six and my girlfriend
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she picked all of them out. She loved them. Well.
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A fox or something came through and got all of them.
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So I was like, oh my gosh, can things get
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any worse? And so I'm going in there and the
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first person I see was Doc Brown from Prometheus Lens.
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You have you talked to him before?
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I don't believe I have no.
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Well, he wrote the epic of Esau uh the Birthright
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in the Seed War, and Uh. I was like, dude,
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it's you and I had my book with me and
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he got to sign it. He's from He's from Tennessee.
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That's why I was getting confused. So I met him
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and then uh, I met the guys from Nephlum Death
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Squad and talked to them for a bit and sat
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with the Biblical Hitman, and then a guy sat down
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beside me and we was chopping it up, and it
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turns out that was Brad Layou from the Awakened podcast,
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and so I got to meet all these people, but
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you know, all this stuff was weighing on my mind.
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Then the event started and uh, I don't know who
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was on stage what they were talking about, but at
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some point in time he just screamed, Christ is King,
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and the whole room just erupted, and like I felt
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the Holy Spirit. Like all these people, not all of
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them were flat earthers, and that's fine, but everyone in
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there was searching for truth and it was all Christ centered,
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and I was like, this is what it's about. This
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is what's important, us leaning on Christ, us searching for
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Him and just this is what it's all about. And
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even though I had all these bad things going on
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in my life, that kind of put it in perspective.
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So whatever these guys are doing with Brahemian Grave, like
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God is on their side, you should definitely go to
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it like you're you're the og. It's all podcasters and comedians.
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It's very hard to explain what it is, but it's something.
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It's something awesome.
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I'm glad you mentioned that. Shout out to Cody, who
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will be on the podcast in the next week or so.
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So there's a Flat Earth meet up Saturday, August eighth
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in Stamford, Connecticut. So there you go.
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Oh okay, yeah. I also wanted to say they they
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were trying to buy a coffee shop. Oh wow, you know,
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so when they had their guests they could have their coffee.
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Well it fell through, but then they met this guy's
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names Matt Hepner, I think, and the story with him was,
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you know, he loves the Lord too, but he always
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says I wasn't getting anything from the five to one
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C three system, which I'm worried about the church too.
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Not the church.
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The church is the people. It's gonna be fine, but
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they're five oh one C three system. It is screwed up.
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Like there's a lot of subjects we won't talk about. Well,
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he had turned his coffee shop into like a Bible
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bookstore and he's having Bible studies there and they built
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a studio there and it's just God's providence that they
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met each other and now they have this show going.
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And yeah, I just I think when our eyes are open,
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we can see all these things.
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Yeah, you make a lot of great points. And like
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you mentioned, the church in Greek is ecclesia, and that
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is first the people number two than the building. That
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the people are the church, and there's so much I
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think I spent the first twenty minutes of today's podcast
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on that today and it was just the pastor. There's
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the seminaries, the Bible colleges who are taking away or
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adding to God's word, and a lot of it is dispensationalism,
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the pre tribulation, rapture, and even some of these big
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big names out of Dallas and Hagy, those guys Jeremiah
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who are encouraging the Jews to build the Third Temple.
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I'm like, Jesus was the last sacrifice that the New
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Covenants numb. You know, once they build that temple, what's
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going to start happening again? They're going to start sacrificing again. Well,
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it's just a memorial. What in the world, and you
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know that's next week. That's my whole topic on the
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podcast is religion, all these layers of the matrix, education,
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the medical you know, the military industrial complex and the
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pharmaceutical industry. But Satan, and I know people are waking
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up and seeing this has taken so much of the
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true And you know, after the Civil War, which is
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something I could talk about forever, how they had Christian
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Brother killing Christian Brother was at six hundred thousand dead,
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and then then reconstruction. Then all of a sudden, the
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Rockefellers take everything over. They start with education, then the medical.
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But man, once they got hold of those science books
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and started changing that. And then in the sixties into
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the seventies they started hijacking the church. And what happened was,
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throughout the debauchery of the sixties and seventies, people started
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falling away from the church and the Methodist Church, the
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Presbyterian Church. They were on the brink of having to
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shut down all of their churches. The Synagogue of Satan
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steps in and bails them out. And just like the
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education system, well you need to do this, this and this,
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and now many of these churches, and God bless the
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people out there who have solid churches, but they are
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far and few between. And it's important that so many
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people are boldly stepping out and speaking about that, the
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evils and the heretics and the heresy that is going
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on inside the church today.
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Yeah, I think I think a lot of people don't
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realize like what Jesus did, like what his title is
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in heaven now, like he's the high priest, and you know,
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you go back to the Old Testament, you see what
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the duties were of the high priest and the high
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priest back then they kept screwing up. They was forgetting
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feasts and this and that, and it was Aaron's sons.
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They were killed because they got screwed up. But you know, Jesus,
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he lived a perfect life. So there's no more sacrifice
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to go before God. Because Jesus is our enter, he's
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our high priest. You know, he's Jacob's ladder. He's made
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the bridge and it's it's really a beautiful thing. And
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there's so much deception in this world. And like going
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back to biblical cosmology, like we're warned by Jesus. You know, hey,
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there's going to be deception in this world. Don't fall
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for it. Satan's the god of this world. Where is
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it that revelation?
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And that great great dragon who deceives the whole world,
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like we're to be on guard for for the deception
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of this world. So so we don't, okay, so we don't,
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we don't fall for the tricks and when we uh,
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I've done so many deep dives into uh NASA and
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it's completely the occult, like like it's unbelievable. And I
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go back to scripture, like the Hebrews they were deceived
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into worshiping Bill. Now, even though they were deceived, God
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didn't say you didn't know. He's like, no, I warned you,
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and he still punished him for it. Now. Is that
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what's going to happen with us talking about NASA and
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trying to mix it in with God's word? I don't know,
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but I know I don't want to play with fire.
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And you know, I truly think we're mocking God when
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we're talking about these things.
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One brother, and yeah, that leads me back. I don't
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want to get too far ahead before you address it.
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Was the deal with a church and NASA worship, and
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I have had a young lady sent me, oh, a
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month ago, he sent me, I think our preacher might
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have been from Georgia. And literally it was a forty
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five or fifty minute. Oh, I know what it was.
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It was like the Sunday after Artic so it must
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have been early April, and it was like an hour
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sermon on Artemis and Nasa. And you know that just
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they get so twisted when they see the firmament, they
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just think that's outer space. Yeah, the firmament, there's much
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to it. There is the different layers of them. There
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is the sky in which the birds fly, and then
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there is the dome, and then there is where you know,
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God judges us, where he sits. That's where I she said,
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where he sits, where the Lord sits. And but you know,
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my sister got me a compass. It has east, west,
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south and God. So yeah, that's really awesome. Yeah. So yeah,
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what is up at the church and the Nasa worship.
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Well, let me get to that. But I pulled this
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up a second go. I came across this verse. I
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wasn't looking for it, but I came across Exodus twenty
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three thirteen and says, in all things that I have
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said unto you, be circumspect, and make no mention of
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the name of other gods. Let it be heard out
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of thy mouth. And I immediately went to like everything
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to do with NASA, every mission, every quote unquote planet,
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everything to do with it. It's all the demons and God,
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so that we're not even supposed to be talking about.
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But yeah, to get back to what happened with church,
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let me, I'm not mad. I'm I love all these people.
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They're my brothers and sisters in Christ. I wish their
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eyes were opened. But it went down how it went down.
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I knew about biblical cosmology for about a year and
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a half maybe two, but I was like, you you know,
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I was like, let's tell everybody, and then you realize, oh,
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they're not ready, and they blow you away. So I
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kind of kept my mouth closed. But it was a
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Wednesday night, and I don't always go on Wednesday, or
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at least I didn't, but for some reason, I was like, well,
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I'm off tonight, I'm going to go. So the whole
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sermon that this elder was teaching was on NASA and
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like these stars are being born to a trillion million
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light years away and all the propaganda, and I'm just dumbfounded.
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to God during COVID when all this was happening. I
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was like, something screwed up, Like we're being deceived. Just
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give me discernment. And it was like the next day,
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like my eyes were opened and I found all this stuff.
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So you know, I didn't I didn't want to cause
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a scene in church and call them out in front
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of everything. So after church I talked to him and
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told him all the things about NASA and I was like,
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you know, we don't even have a picture of Earth.
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All this is CGI and here's the proof and here's
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the proof. And so he's like really, but he was
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a huge NASA fanboy. Well, I felt like God had
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put this on my heart. I was like, I've given
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you the truth, you know, are you going to stand
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up for it? So I went home and I was
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thinking about it, and I was like, well, if we
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can talk about NASA for an hour, we should be
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able to talk about biblical cosmology. I mean we're in
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church obviously. So I was talking to Josh Monday and
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he was like, hey, man, i'll teach the class there
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through Zoom. And I was like, I don't know if
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they'll pay for it or whatever, and he's like, no, man,
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I'll do it. So I sent the link to the elder.
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I was telling him. I was like, hey, man, he's
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willing to teach a class, and you know this is
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who he is. He said, okay, I'll look into it.
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Well months had went by. You know, I've got a
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guest speaker for you. Can you at least get back
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to me, and one way or another, well, nothing was happening.
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Of course, my girlfriend went there too, and she's in
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my ear saying, you know, she don't want me to
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me to make waves. She didn't believe in flat earth,
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but I give her credit, she at least listened to
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me and was like, okay, you know, but I've seen
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the solar system in school and I'm going to go
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with that. Cool. That's fine. At least you listen to me. Well.
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Then I had been turned on to Gary Wayne and
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I was reading his book The Genesis Sixth Conspiracy. But
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I had noticed that I wasn't on the rotation anymore.
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So I pulled this guy to the side. I was like, hey,
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can you mention this book. He's like, no, I'm not
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going to mention it, kind of like sharp with me,
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and I was like, all right, man, well, can you
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at least get back to me on what you thought
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about this guy. Then another couple of weeks went by
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and I was like, man, we need to talk, and
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he kept putting me off and putting me off, and
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then we went to the back room and I was like, man,
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this is great. You know, I can't put my Bible down.
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I'm so on fire for the Lord. I was like, so,
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what do you think of this guy? He's like, I
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didn't like him. I was like, well, what specifically with
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the scripture did you not like? And he's like, well,
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I didn't like what he said about the moon landing,
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and so I know he cut off off the video
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right then and there. He didn't cause you know, Josh Monday,
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like he's all about scripture and verse and laying it out.
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He's he's buy the book to the book. He wants
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truth and that's what I really like about him. And
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before all this happens, you know, we kind of had
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a like it's kind of like a mocking conversation. He's like, so,
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what are you a flat earther or what? It was like,
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I believe in the Biblical cosmology. Yes, He's like, well,
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what does it matter? I said, well, I can read
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the Bible plainly, I don't have to twist scripture to
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make it fit. He's like, why I don't do that.
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It's like okay. And so in this meeting in the bike,
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I went to Joshua chapter ten. You know, the sun
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and the moon stopped. And I was like, well, what's
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happening here. I'm trying to be careful and not use
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his name, and he said, well, that means the earth stops.
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I was like, that's not what it says. And if
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the earth stops, well you still have everything else moving
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in all these other directions. When you look at helio
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centrism and break down what it actually says, it's absurd,
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like it's we're moving thirty times faster than a bullet
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in four different directions. And uh, well, anyway, we kind
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of got into it, and but he said, he said,
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we're not going to teach that here. I guess we're
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still in Joshua. And I was like, excuse me. I
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was like, we need to teach what the Bible says.
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Like you can, you can believe in Nasa or whatever,
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but we were still in the church. We need to
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teach what God's word actually says. And he's like well,
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we're not going to teach that here that part. And
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at some point point in time I asked him, I said, so,
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what is the firmament? And he's like, I don't know.
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And at this point in time, it's real dismissive, saym me.
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And this was right before Brahemian Grove, and you know,
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this has been months and I wasn't being put on
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the rotation to give prayer and participate in presiding over communion.
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And I was like, well, you know, I tried. If
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they don't want me here and if I'm not going
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to be part of this congregation anymore than I need
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to find somewhere else to go, I haven't found somewhere
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else to go. And I hate that it ended like
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that because I know for myself, like I'm closer to
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God than I've ever been, and I wish if the
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church would. I firmly believe if the church was teaching, hey,
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NASA is not real. This is what the Bible says,
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people would be coming in droves just to see what
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they're talking about. Because people aren't doing that. But that's
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what happened with the church I was going to and
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I eventually I wrote, like a thirteen page letter. Did
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I email that to you?
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It might help if I amute myself. I'll have to
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go back and look, I don't recall that you did,
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but you may have. How long ago would that have been?
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Oh it was probably six months ago, okay, I'll beck.
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I just kept thinking about things, and I was like,
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so I wrote this big, long letter, you know, exposing NASA,
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and I remember I was in my tree standeer hunting
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and I was just typhing away and h in a
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lot of time on it, and it's like, Hey, this
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is what's really going on, this is what the Bible says,
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and you know, hey, they even faked the challenger. This
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is the video. What's that guy's name that makes these
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videos level with me?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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I sent that out with a link to the people
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that had email, and only two people wrote me back.
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But one lady was like, well, I don't know about
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that video and the way they was playing the music.
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I'm just not sure that they didn't have any scripture,
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and to be a good Brion, I think we should
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x y Z. And I was like, well, I only
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sent you the video to show that the astronauts were
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still alive and they faked that. But you know I
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had eighty ninety verses in my letter to you all.
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I just I feel like I tried. And if you're
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not ready to see it, then you're not ready ready
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to see it.
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Yeah, and I've said this many times over the past month.
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Everybody wants to be a Borean until it conflicts with
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their beliefs. Yes, you know, even if you explain this
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is I can hand this to somebody that this is
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the two hundred flat earth Bible versus and sure not,
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you know, some of them might be a little bit
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of a stretch. But you know, when you break it
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down expository and you look at every word, there's just
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no way that the heliocentric model can exist. You can
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ask any ai just going by the Bible, and the
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Bible alone is a geocentric or a heliocentric book, and
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every single time it'll say it's not even close. You
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look at the Bible Genesis one, God created and the
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heavens and the earth first, and then not until day
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four He made a sun for the day and the
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lesser light for the evening. Now I'm going to show you.
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I'm going to share the screen here real quick, I
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think this is SHARE's screen. Yeah, and don't show these
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tips again.
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This is.
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How they get people to believe. Let me bring this on.
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There you go, that's what they do now this day
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four of creation. The sun and moon established calendar, so
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it's the sun in the center with them. They show
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the ball in different setting spring, summer, winter, and fall,
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the calendar for the seasons. And again it's not it's
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not being it's such a it's so frustrating because you
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can show them two hundred verses. You can show them
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how there's no way like here we are in twenty
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twenty six, like when I drove to West Virginia, you know,
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three weeks ago. I can't tell you how many times
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I lost signal, but we were able to in nineteen
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sixty nine, in July of sixty nine, to talk to
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someone with no delay two hundred and thirty nine thousand
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miles away. And how many times in science, especially with heliocentrism,
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have those numbers changed, whether it be the distance of
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the moon, the speed of the solar system, that those
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numbers continuously changed.
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But you know what never changes, the word of God.
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The word of God. And you know I've been part
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of this club for six years now, and it's gone
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from a big emotional event to the scales falling off
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within thirty days and seeing the world for what it is,
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and then to being kind of not included with a
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lot of people anymore for sharing my belief. But the
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most frustrating thing is when you can show them biblical
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text and they still reject it. That again, that just
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goes into people don't want to know the truth. By
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the way solar system solar is relating to the Sun,
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the sun and system and assemblage or combination of things.
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Everything is based around the s U N, whereas the
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Bible is based around the s O N. All of
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this mockery and hypocritical science to defraud man. And you
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know we're told in the end times that we're going
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to be deceived. People need to read the Book of Matthew.
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Look at Matthew twenty four. Take heed that no man
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deceive you, for many shall come in my name, many
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shall deceive twenty four eleven, And many false prophets shall
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rise and deceive many twenty three to twenty six. Jesus
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warns of false christ and false prophets performing great signs
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and wonders, even Mark, but the strongest is Matthew twenty four,
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Verse twenty four. Matthew twenty four is awesome. It says,
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for their shall arise false Christ and false prophets, and
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shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it
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were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. And of course,
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the very first warning that Jesus gives in the All
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of It discourse is about what deception? What is Satan's
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only real power deception? He is the prince of the
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power of the air here on earth, and people need
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to realize that and get back into the book and
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get over themselves and over their prideful ways and use
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the discernment.
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Yeah, that's a big thing too. And even with that model,
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with the picture that he showed me, like when I
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was in school, we wasn't racing. It was just the
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sixty six thousand, six hundred miles around the Sun. We
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wasn't chasing the Sun through the galaxy, which I guess
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we're doing now in the Milky WAYE system. But even
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with that model alone, like picture in your mind's eye,
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like in January, you're on one side of the Sun.
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Well in July, we should be on the opposite side
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of the sun facing a different direction, but we can
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still see the Big Dipper like year round, and just
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if you picture it in your mind's eye, Like if
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we're moving all these directions at breakneck speed, the stars
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should be zooming across the sky in a different pattern.
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They shouldn't be making perfect concentric circles around Polaris, the
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north star. But people just say, well, it's big and
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that explains everything. Well, you know, if I turn my
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back to you, George, how far away from you do
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I have to get before you're in front of me again?
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Like it's completely absurd. But as far as the deception
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goes like that, are awake, we can see what's happening.
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The next big thing is going to be the aliens.
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They've been prepping for the aliens for so long. And
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if we don't believe in God's creation, then we are
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going to be deceived because it's like, well, why wouldn't
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we believe? And I don't know what you believe about
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like the Kingdom. I believe the Kingdom is coming down,
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just like it says in Revelations twenty one and twenty two.
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But a lot of pastors and teachers, they don't necessarily
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believe that. They just think it's an allegory. And I've
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heard preachers say, well, Jesus isn't coming back. Here says
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the earth is going to be renewed and the meek
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will inherit the earth. My mind is all over the place.
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But even like the people with the little season, like
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I kind of get what they're saying. The only reason
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I don't believe it is because where is the kingdom
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right now? Because it says we'll be able to see it,
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and when Jesus and God come down, that will be it.
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Where was I going with this? Ah? That? Yeah, Understanding
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the biblical truth about things. I think it's important because
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it gives us a more complete picture of God's word.
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Like as a kid, you know, when I was thinking
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about things above me, I was thinking about space. I
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wasn't thinking, oh my gosh, that's heaven right above us.
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God's right there, Like our mind should be thinking about
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what biblical things say. Like I believe that we need
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to be baptized, right, We was talking about that earlier. Well,
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I've come to that conclusion through reading scripture. You got
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Mark sixteen sixteen, Uh, one Peter three twenty one, where says,
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and just like Noah was saved through the waters of flood,
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today were saved through the waters of baptism. And Ikes
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two thirty eight he says, what must we do? And
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he says, believe, repent, and be baptized. So now that
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I have this hunger for the word, I want to
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know what did the sorry, what did the people believe,
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what was their context, what did they have for breakfast?
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I want to know it all. And then the concept
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of Ikes two thirty eight. These people like they knew
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the Torah, they knew the Messiah was coming, they knew
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they were to have a watchful eye. And I'm sure
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after they killed Jesus they went back to the parable
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of the Landowner where it says we sent prophets and
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then we beat them, and then I sent my son
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and they killed him. And they're like, oh, my gosh,
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he told us and we did that. They're terrified. Rightfully
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they should be. They're like, what can we do? Believer,
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pent and be baptized. So we come to this conclusion
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by reading scripture. But a lot of teachers today when
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it comes to Biblical cosmology, it's like, oh, know that's
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poetic language or it it doesn't mean that, it doesn't
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mean this. Well, this is the only subject where we're
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saying things like that. We don't say it about other scriptures.
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Jesus says, and we will know them by their fruit.
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So what is the fruit of Nasa. Nasa has led
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millions of people away from God and the Bible. And
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I think like during Jesus' time, there were no atheists.
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Everyone believed in some sort of God and the occult
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and all that stuff. It was wide open back then,
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but everyone knew that there was a firmament above them,
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so everyone believed in something. Well, after Jesus died and
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came back and the church was in one accord and
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we was in belief, and the church was growing, like
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we had power through the name of Jesus to cast
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out all these demons. And so they couldn't just have
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this false teaching of demons and fallen angel worship and
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all the stuff that they was doing back then. Satan
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had to change up his tactics. And it's like, well,
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everyone knows that that heaven right above us. How do
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I deceive them now? Well, get them to believe that
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there's not even a firmament, and you got to give
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it to Satan. He succeeded in that. He's deceived a
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lot of us. And when I go back to like
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we're told that people knew for thousands of years that
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it was a bos spinning through space, that's part of
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the deception too, because when it really came to the mainstream,
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it was brought by a Jesuit priest to the pope,
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and the math was changed several different times to try
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to make helio centrism work. And when they brought it
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to the mainstream, most of the church was like, no,
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this isn't what the Bible says, and they completely disregarded it.
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But you know, you hear it lies so many times.
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I guess it whears people down. You know. I got
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word back from my girlfriend somebody had said they was
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talking about me or whatever. It's like, I don't think
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they should have done Evan that way. And they was like, well,
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I guess there's there is a way that you can
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read the Bible to where it's flat. And I was like, well,
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I'm glad they took up for me or whatever, but
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I think about that, like, what other way is there
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to read it? It's very interesting, it is.
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And again I say the same thing all the time, Evan.
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You know, you kind of have to tip your cap
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to these people for the way they created the matrix.
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This whole plan, I believe obviously goes back to the
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Garden of Ebe and Eden and Babbel, but I think
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the current plan that they have in place goes back
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to the probably seventeen seventy five ish. You know, that's
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when the Illuminati were kind of born and the printing pressure,
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you know, was now about two hundred years old, and
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they were able to fine tune it, and you look
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at the layers of the matrix. The first is was
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Ben Franklin, who was a freemason, and that was all
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that media and information control. So they started buying all
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the papers, putting the other ones out of business. So
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whatever they put in the paper, that's what people believed.
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And then you had entertainment and cultural programming and all
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the things. We've been like you and I I don't
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know how old you are. I'm fifty seven. So I
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remember watching Star Wars in the movie theater, the first three,
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The Extra Terrestrial, the ET movies. Those things plant seeds
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in your head. And fantasy becomes reality. And then obviously
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you have the financial matrix, government, the war, machine, education, technology, pharmaceuticals,
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religion and this counterfeit church and the psychological matrix that
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people don't talk about enough. It goes Edward Burneze. He
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perfected how to get people to believe things fear conditioning
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today with the phones, the dopamine, addiction, identity politics. Who
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are you, bro? Are you a maga?
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No?
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Oh, you must be one of those dumb purple haired libs. Actually, no,
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there's three hundred and thirty million people in America. There
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can be more than two groups to choose from, but
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people don't get it.
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Yeah.
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And of course the occult and the spiritual layer that
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I talk about a lot in my substacks, especially with Disney,
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and they have a Witchcraft is something that I mentioned
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just today in the Book of Revelation when it talks
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about sorcery and witchcraft the pharmachea and that is the
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medicine we take. And what is witchcraft, bro, Witchcraft is
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when you give up something to gain something. That's exactly
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what witchcraft is, right, When you sell your soul to
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gain power, when you sacrifice a child for wealth, right,
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that's what they used to do back Well they still do.
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I guess they still since Roe versus Wade, what is it,
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sixty three million abortions in the United States. You give
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up something and you look at modern pharmaceuticals. What happens
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after fifteen seconds of every single pharmaceutical commercial. Oh yeah,
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the warnings, the side effects. Yeah, so you're getting your
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hair back, you're getting rid of that rash, but you're
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giving something else up. That pharmakia is witchcraft and sorcery.
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Yeah, and they've made it so prevalent that people just
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don't even think about that. And that's that's exactly what
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Satan wants. Like, we don't have to be card carrying atheists.
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He just needs us to be firmamental, to not firmamental.
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He just needs us to be lukewarmed where we're not
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actually looking for the laws of him. Uh. I wrote
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something down here about Oh did you know uh, during
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like uh Moses' time, do you know who, uh the
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Hebrews thought that who who they believed uh Satan was
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is azeld. You said, well, yeah, do you know who?
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Uh?
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The Hebrews thought that he was raw Ra the Sun. Yeah,
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the the god of ancient Egypt, the sun god. Yeah,
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uh yeah, the falcon headed god.
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Uh.
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He had a boat that would go through the sky.
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And that's why they have all the eye of raw.
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It's it's to look like an eclipse. And that's a
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whole other thing. Uh. While I'm trying to find this note,
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what do you think eclipses are?
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Brother? You know I am not. I have no problem
723
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saying I don't know. For man to be able to
724
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automatically say this is what everything is, to expect to
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understand how God created everything, that's a bit prideful. So
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I have no problem saying I'm not really sure. However,
727
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like with the tides, it certainly has something to do
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with the salt in the water and the moon and
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the sun.
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With that.
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Even I think there's something to do with Antarctica. Maybe
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during the day when the ice melts, it kind of
733
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comes back and then it pushes back because it is
734
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the great tub that holds in all the water. So
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I think there's more than one thing at play with that.
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But again, will we even know. When we enter the
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gates of heaven, we'll see what knowledge God gives us.
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Yeah, I don't know what it is either. I have.
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I have a good guess, but I won't get into that.
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But when you go down that rabbit hole, you find
741
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out that when we actually watching the clips, you don't
742
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see the moon go in front of it. And if
743
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you follow the path of the moon, the moon is
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in a completely different place. And it always happens during
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a new moon. And we have the iss up there,
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but they're not showing us it's not really up there.
747
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But why aren't they showing us videos saying oh, even
748
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though it's a new moon, this is where the moon
749
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is up up there.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what it is either, but I think
752
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it has to do something with I don't know the occult.
753
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.320
I can't find that verse that I was trying to
754
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show you.
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Well, I know that, you know Joel two thirty one.
756
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In Isaiah thirteen ten they talk about the you know,
757
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the sun being darkened. Those I think were more in
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prophetic or symbolic messages. But yeah, there's a lot of
759
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things you can hypothesize about. You know, what are falling stars?
760
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What are you know all of those things?
761
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Oh yeah, the falling stars. This is something else. But
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to do with it, you know in Mark where Jesus
763
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says the stars will fall to the earth. In revelation
764
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it says the stars will fall to an earth like
765
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figs from a tree. And that's That's another thing. It
766
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forces us to make versus like that an allegory because
767
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we just we can't picture. Oh no, the sun is
768
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a ball of fire a trillion times bigger than the earth.
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So yeah, I think we need to be on Sorry,
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I'm going through these notes. We need to be aware
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of what it says. Oh, here, here's one thing. This
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is what Copernicus said about the Sun. So the middle
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of all sits son and throne in this most beautiful temple.
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Could we place this luminary in any better position from
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which he can illuminate the hole at once? He is
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rightly called the land, the mind, the ruler of the universe.
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Hermes Trimestigese names with the visible gods. Scophiles Electra calls
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him the all things. So the Sun sits as upon
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a royal throne, ruling his children the planets which circle
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around him. The Earth has the moon at her service.
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As Aristotle says in his own words, the moon has
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the closest relationship with the Earth. Meanwhile, the Earth conceives
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the sun and becomes pregnant with an annual rebirth. Now
784
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that sounds pretty occultic to me.
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And who wrote that?
786
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I'm sorry, that was Copernicus, of course it was.
787
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Yeah, even Martin Luther. They're called him a heretic, you know,
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at his table till.
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Yeah.
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And you even go back to Jack Parsons, which they
791
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they try to scrub him from the records of everything.
792
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But he was flm alight or however that is.
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Yep, that's the ninety three as above, so below and
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how many million miles is the sun away?
795
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Oh night ninety three?
796
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Yeah? How old did Adam live to be? Nine and thirty?
797
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Oh?
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Is that what that is?
799
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I knew it was something yeah, yeah, yeah, all you
800
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had Jack Parsons, you had Frank Molina, you had who
801
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was l Ron Hubbard too?
802
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Right?
803
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Oh yeah, yeah, he was part of it too. They
804
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were like friends, I think, are they? They hung out
805
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in the same sex party rituals whatever that film alike
806
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.079
believes yep. But yeah, if you look at the notes
807
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of things like I think back to like Satan was
808
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asking God over Jove. It was like can I do
809
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this and that? And God's like you can go this far,
810
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but no farther. Like they have to tell us to
811
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a point what they're doing, or they have to leave crumbs.
812
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And when you look into what NASA says that here
813
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I've write it down. The circumference of the Earth is
814
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point sixty sixty six of a foot. We're moving sixty
815
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six thousand, six hundred were tilted at sixty six point
816
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six degrees. Isaac Newton came up with the theory of
817
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gravity in sixteen sixty six. Diameter of the Moon six
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times six, I'm sixty distance to the Moon six times six,
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I'm sixty sixty six. Antarctic and arctics lestual fear sixty
820
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six point six. Like they put it all all over
821
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the place. Let's see. Oh, I was thinking the other day,
822
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it's like with heliocentrism. Well, now that we've woken up
823
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and realized what the Bible says, like, where is heaven
824
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in the heliocentric model? You know, I think that we
825
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used to always think that it was another realm, and
826
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we just I think God gives us clear descriptions of
827
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what heaven is and where it's at. And Amos nine
828
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to six, the one who builds his upper chambers in
829
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the heavens. So the firmament connects to the earth at
830
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some point in place. But I don't know what heaven is.
831
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But like Jesus was the firstborn of the Resurrection, he's
832
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our example. Well, he was still on this earth, and
833
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he was hugging Mary and Peter or Thomas put his
834
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hands in the nail scars, and he was shape shifting
835
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and people couldn't recognize him until he allowed them to,
836
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or however it works. But he was going through walls.
837
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.480
He showed up in the upper room. But when he ascended,
838
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.480
like he had some sort of eloheen body and he
839
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.400
went someplace. He's not shooting through space to wherever heaven
840
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.360
is at. It's literally right above us.
841
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.440
Well that's the thing, man, when you go back to
842
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.800
Genesis one and he says God created the heavens and
843
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:08.440
the earth. It's not some mysterious dimension. And again, if
844
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.360
if people with there would put their pride aside and
845
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.000
just read the Bible, they would understand it's right above them.
846
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Yeah.
847
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And also like Josh Monday, he always goes back to
848
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.360
the fire coming down from heaven, like it destroyed the
849
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:31.639
Altar and Sodom and Gomorrah yep. And I believe that too,
850
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:35.639
But I also think, well, what about the Mana? They
851
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.920
were fed mana for years yep, and they said that
852
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:44.079
that was angels food. So do the angels have fields
853
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.119
and they're you know, they're farming, making the heaven grain
854
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.079
and getting it ready for the Hebrews. I don't know,
855
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:55.280
but it's some sort of corporeal place that we can
856
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:56.000
interact with.
857
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.440
And if that people would just read their Bibles for
858
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.920
the words that are not at it or take away
859
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.960
you know, obviously Proverbs. There is a lot of allegories there, right, yeah,
860
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.119
and we know when Jesus is telling a parable or
861
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.400
when something's being written. Jennison's is the foundational book of
862
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.159
the Bible, and if you just read Genesis one to
863
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.840
two to one, just that alone, it destroys heliocentrism. And
864
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.159
if I could just take a moment, if you wouldn't mind,
865
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:28.079
because I understand not everybody starts this podcast from the beginning,
866
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:32.320
but all the NASA fanboys out there please understand. This
867
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:38.119
organization was started by occultists. The rituals were based on
868
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:41.440
the teachings of Alistair Crowley, and the little group was
869
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.760
the Ordo Temple orient Us I think it was called,
870
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.480
and they, like Evan said, the Crowley's religion of Thelemma
871
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:54.480
so above as below, and the stated goal, this is
872
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.480
not conspiracy theory, anybody can look this up, was to
873
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:03.000
invoke or manifest Abalon with an a that's a divine
874
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:08.679
fennamone figure in Theellamic belief. And l Ron Hubbard, the
875
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:12.360
same guy who created scientology from his book Dynetics. All
876
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.320
of the old folks like me, remember those commercials from
877
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:21.320
the eighties, participated in these rituals. And you know the
878
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:26.199
NASA's it was originally called Jack Parsons Laboratory, now it's
879
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:30.880
called Jet propulsion Laboratories. They try to hide their origins.
880
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:36.880
NASA is based on an occult. It creates dark money.
881
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:41.000
The rockets go up, nobody goes anywhere, and they get
882
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:44.000
seventy million dollars a day to get people to believe
883
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.719
that the Bible is just like like Evan said in Allegory.
884
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.960
The other thing I wanted to ask you, Alan or
885
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:55.159
Evan pardon me, was you mentioned earlier the alien deception?
886
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:57.000
How do you think they're going to bring it about?
887
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.559
Are they good guys? Are they bad guys, how do
888
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:00.599
you think all that goes down.
889
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.320
I've got a couple of theories. It's either going to
890
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.239
be like the bad guys show up and then the
891
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:19.400
good guys conquer them, and then they've saved us and
892
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.519
they've created some sort of system that they've brought down
893
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:30.239
the corrupt government, and now it's we can we can
894
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.320
trust them because they've shown us well. Satan's playing both sides,
895
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:45.039
like even with with Trump and Hillary Clinton, like he's like,
896
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:48.280
all right, this is the good guy, this is the
897
00:59:48.360 --> 01:00:00.639
bad guy. But he's playing both sides. I think at
898
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:03.039
some point in time where they've screwed up our dollar
899
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:07.000
to where everything's worthless, we're going to be on a
900
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:11.599
universal basic income, however that works. But they're going to
901
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.039
play it like it's the savior that we've been waiting
902
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:19.800
on because things have gotten so bad. But I don't know, George,
903
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.559
It's it's common though, Yeah it is.
904
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:25.599
And I'm glad you said that because I've always said
905
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:27.920
on my other podcast that I think the technology we
906
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:31.119
have is at least twenty years old. I truly believe that,
907
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:35.000
and I wonder if they're going to bring some technology
908
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.199
out that even today would blow our minds to get
909
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.360
people to buy into it. And then, like you said,
910
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.559
they're going to create very difficult times, and it's they're
911
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:44.559
going to present the market something that's going to take
912
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:49.039
care of everything. No more insurance premiums. Insurance is free,
913
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.559
you can travel freely. And these Trump accounts that are starting,
914
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.679
that's probably the seed for the universal basic income. I
915
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.360
truly believe that as well. And I think we're closer
916
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.639
to the tribulation than most people believe. I think we're
917
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.480
closing in on the end of the sixth Day.
918
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:06.639
Yeah.
919
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:11.039
Yeah.
920
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:21.719
Another thing that got me really studying was Genesis six.
921
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.960
Let me ask you this. Growing up, like you said,
922
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:35.960
you was a young Christian, right, was you taught about
923
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:40.920
the Nephelum and the angels coming down?
924
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:41.840
Absolutely not.
925
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:47.199
I wasn't either, And I remember in my twenties, Uh,
926
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:52.280
I found I found that verse, and you know, I
927
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.760
wasn't as knowledgeable as I am now, but I got
928
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.639
the Book of Enoch, and you know, I dug into
929
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:02.159
that thing amazed. I was like, oh my gosh, this
930
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:05.760
which I should have right then and there realized, you know,
931
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:10.719
biblical cosmology. But I wasn't thinking about that. But what
932
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:14.320
blew my mind was all the references that they had
933
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.639
of Jesus coming and what his role was and how
934
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.719
it was going to happen, and this and that, and
935
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.480
a lot of people will say, you shouldn't read that.
936
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:34.039
It's it's the apocrypha and the Holy Spirit is our teacher.
937
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.119
Like there was no angel that came down and said
938
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:42.320
these sixty six books alone, don't look at anything else.
939
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:46.960
Like there's a lot of stuff that is nonsense out there,
940
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:51.440
but we're to have discernment and read it like Enoch
941
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.800
two and three. It's corrupted, I think, because a lot
942
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:01.199
of it contradicts what scripture says. But if we're not
943
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.719
on guard, like they're going to do it again, I
944
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.800
think some things have been taken out of the Bible
945
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:12.280
and we haven't realized it. Like I was on TikTok
946
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.480
the other day and it was what is it Isaiah
947
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.719
twenty Yeah, where it talks about the circle.
948
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.559
Of yeah, grasshoppers forty twenty two. Yeah.
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You know even in the new the prints of the
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Bible today there they've already changed the word circle to globe.
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Do you know that?
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Well, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the you know,
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whether it's NIV or those type of translations at it,
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that wouldn't surprise me at all. And that is again
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that's why I understand the KJAV can be, you know,
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a little difficult to read with these guys and everything.
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But I'm more I understand that, especially I grew up
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with the NIV A fly did. Then you find out
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that there's versus missing. I think the was it Psalm
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one fifty three's not there one of the last chapters
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of some and it's you understand, this is all intentional.
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You really understand it's all intentional, one hundred percent. That's
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not an accident. So let me look Isaiah forty, chapter
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twenty two. Let's go with the NIV, which is the not.
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Very good.
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And I here we go. Let's see what it says,
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verse twenty two. It says, no, at least the NIV
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says he sys and thrown above the circle of the earth,
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and it's people are like grasshoppers at least, you know,
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for all the NIV that we give a hard time,
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at least that one of those. But I'm sure that
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there is a version that that says that it wouldn't
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surprise me at all.
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Yeah, they're if we're not paying attention, then well God
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already says that there's gonna be a great falling away
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and the deception's coming. But I'm very thankful that my
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eyes were opened. I wish I could reach more people
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or more people would be open to this because we're
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gonna grow more and more when because I can see
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the deception coming now, like my radar is up. But yeah,
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the Nephilum, that's a very interesting subject and when you
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dig into it, you're like, Okay, this is why the
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world is the way it is because the angel sind
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and it was like a huge thing. Like I think
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the time before the flood, it was probably crazy. It
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was Game of Thrones on steroids, like the Nephelum and giants.
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They were running the show. Yeah, like in church, we're
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just taught, Okay, the people were bad, so the flood came.
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I think it was way more than that. Like Noah
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was probably like the last human because it says all
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flesh was corrupted. So that's why the flood was merciful
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because they were trying to get rid of the ability
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for Jesus to come down and be the Messiah. So
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if they destroy the bloodline completely. I heard a lesson
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a couple of years ago and they were teaching on
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Joshua and Caleb, which that's a whole other thing. Like
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Joshua and Caleb. They were slaying Nephelum giants at eighty
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years old. Like that's freaking awesome. But I remember the
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teacher he was saying, it said for Joshua and Caleb
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to slay the men, women and children and livestock too,
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and they ended up not doing all that. But he
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was like, I don't know why it says God's told
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them to kill everyone like that, but you know, God,
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God knows, and like, I know why you can do
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that because they were Nephelum. They were shape shifters. And
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then you go back to who were they. It's a
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group of people starts with an a Assyrians maybe old on.
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I'll find it here.
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I'm muted, Sorry, dude, I'm sitting here talking. I was
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talking about the Anakims. I didn't know if that's what
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you were talking about.
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No, Oh my gosh, because.
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While you're looking, you know, I remember you had asked
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me if they ever talked about Genesis six. Absolutely not,
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not even church, Sunday school, nothing, but you know, in
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the Sunday School, you get the David and Goliath story
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and then you're like, well, what was Goliath and nepheline, Well,
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not really, he was probably was it Refame, I think
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they were called. But what's interesting is, well, there's no
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biblical connection of the ref Fame to the Edomites. They
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did kind of share some geographical and historical interactions, which
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I find very interesting. You have a Goliath and the
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Synagogue of Satan if you.
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Will, Yeah, and uh, I was doing a deep dive
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into the Nephelm and the story of David and Goliath, like, yeah,
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he hit him with that rock, but he also took
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his sword and cut.
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His head off with his that's right with goliaths own's sword.
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Yeah. And then you look into the old Jewish text
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and it's like some of these Nephelion they had the
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ability to like regenerate, which you know, I think that's
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where the X Men comics they get it from. It's
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from old stories of the Nephilum and things like that.
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I can't believe. I can't.
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01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:28.000
Well, what was the TV show from the eighties where
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the guy said there can only be one? Didn't every
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episode end with him beheading somebody.
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I don't think that was a show. I think it
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was a movie.
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High Yeah, it is Highlander.
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Highlander. Yeah there was a show too. Yeah.
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I think it was a movie in the eighties and
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then I think it eventually maybe turned into like one
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of those weird Saturday night b kind of TV shows.
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I could be wrong. Who knows. Getting old isn't fun.
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Oh, what I was looking for was the Amalekites. Uh.
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So I looked. I looked back into the Amalekites, and
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uh they were considered blood liquors. They were cannibals, and
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I think that's where like the lure of the vampires
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01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:27.640
and all that stuff comes from.
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01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:35.039
But yeah, they're all descendants from Esau.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, the epic of Esau, the Birthright in the
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seed Ward. Uh, it's by Justin Doc Brown. You really
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01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:46.159
need to check it out.
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Yeah, to be transparent, the Bible doesn't say that there's
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external document right right.
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Well, what he gets into is like you know where
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Esau and Jacob. Esau comes in and he's like, you know,
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sell me your birthright. That's what Jacob says to him,
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And it was like over a pot of stew.
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01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:16.520
Yeah, he had eaten it forever, starving.
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It doesn't It doesn't make sense because the way he
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puts it, it would be like one of Trump's sons
1065
01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.760
coming in and it's like, give me your fortune, and
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I'll give you this bag of Dorito's. It just doesn't
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01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:35.359
make sense. And what Justin has done in his book
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01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:42.960
is he's found out that long story short Esau had
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01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:49.319
killed Nimrod and took the garments, which the garments were
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01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:53.640
the clothes that God had made for Adam and Eve,
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01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:59.520
and they they were on the They were on the
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01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.319
boat with Noah obviously, and Ham had stole them. And
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then they Ham found the writings of the Fallen Angels,
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but he didn't want to tell Noah because I guess
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01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:17.600
they still respected him. But Ham went down that path
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01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:25.119
and the garments got to Nimrod Gilgamesh, whatever they want
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01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:32.079
to call him. And it says in one verse that
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Nimrod became a givering and I don't know what exactly
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that means, but somehow he transformed himself into a Nephum,
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01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:45.039
is what I think. And I think that's what all
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01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:48.680
these occult people are striving to do. They want to
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01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:52.279
be like the gods. They want to and whether it's
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01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:56.159
true or not. Hillary Clinton had that email that's like, oh,
1084
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:01.880
did you find Gilgamesh's rejuvenation chain. Then you come to
1085
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.079
find out that we went to war over there and
1086
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:06.720
our base was right there where they had all those
1087
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:10.399
artifacts or whatever, and we stole them all.
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01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:14.680
And yeah, yeah, they did that in Iraq and then
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01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.279
in Afghanistan there was the rumors of the giant there.
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And this is something I struggle with because you know,
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01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:27.119
we're supposed to stick to canon, and even Titus talks
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01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.560
about you know, I was not giving heed to Jewish
1093
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:33.760
fables at the same time. So let me back up.
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01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:36.439
I'm getting ahead of myself. That story you were talking
1095
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:39.399
about with the garments and ham and cushi and everything
1096
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.760
that is actually in the Book of Jasher and Joshua
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01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.800
ten thirteen. We as biblical cosmologists, we cite that all
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01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.880
the time while it's not canon. You know, that's something
1099
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:55.680
I always wrestle with. So it's like, I have a
1100
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:58.800
hard enough time, you know, encapsulating and figure out the
1101
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.640
seven hundred and eighty three thousand words that are in
1102
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:05.720
the King James version Bible. I struggle with and I
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01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:09.920
pray and I see counsel, What about this book? What
1104
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:12.239
about that book? And I get you know, Eaniuk one
1105
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:14.960
is good, two and three it's not maccabee's is and
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01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.520
Joshure's this part's okay. And I really struggle with that
1107
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:23.399
because I don't want to ever get behind or I
1108
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:28.920
should say, well, yeah, behind a pulpit and guess you
1109
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.039
know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just want to be
1110
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.359
on solid ground, so I try to be well, the
1111
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:37.640
human side of me, the curious side of me, wants
1112
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.760
to dig down deeper.
1113
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:39.199
You know.
1114
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:40.960
Here you have Gary Wayne. I got the book sitting
1115
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.680
right next to me here, eight hundred and what seventy
1116
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:46.319
five pages on a couple of versus, and then he
1117
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:48.199
just came out with a part two within the last
1118
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:51.199
year as well. And I've had him on the podcast
1119
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:54.600
and he's just such a machine with I mean, I
1120
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:57.479
don't have that type of memory anymore, but he's a
1121
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.199
very interesting guy to talk to. But I struggle with
1122
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.479
if I'm going to stand behind a pulpit, do I
1123
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:06.760
really want to cite Josh or mccabee's in these type
1124
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:08.920
of things? Is that okay? For like a Wednesday night
1125
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type of service or a Bible study. Those are the
1126
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:14.279
things that I that I that I struggle and pray over.
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01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.239
I know what you mean. And when I heard you
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01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:21.640
was going into seminary, I was like, oh man, because
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01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:25.720
I don't know what they teach there. Did they say
1130
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.760
you have to have this belief on Hell? No, you
1131
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:33.880
can't talk about Genesis six because this and that, Like,
1132
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:34.760
how does that work?
1133
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:39.920
It's hermeneutics, it's history, it's you know, all right, let's
1134
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.920
look at first Thessalonians. It's actually the oldest book in
1135
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:45.960
the New Testament, fifty one AD. And where was he
1136
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:47.760
when he wrote this? Why did he write it? Who
1137
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:52.000
did he write it to? And it's expository sermon building,
1138
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:58.479
and it's spiritual formation. But it's not about now. Professors
1139
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.439
aren't afraid to tell you their beliefs. Now. I will
1140
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.880
be completely transparent with you. Ninety five percent of the
1141
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:12.000
professors I've had are good. They are very open to
1142
01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:14.560
what you have to say, and you know, I'm receptive
1143
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.520
to what they say when we have these open conversations
1144
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:22.079
twice a week. I did get a little pushback one time,
1145
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:25.760
because here's my thing. Let me ask you. I'm not
1146
01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:27.000
trying to put you on the spot. But let me
1147
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:30.319
just get your thought on this. Look, we can one
1148
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:34.760
hundred percent agree that we are saved by grace through
1149
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:38.239
faith in Jesus Christ. Right, there's no amount of works
1150
01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:40.479
that we can do. Do you believe in any way,
1151
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:44.119
shape or form that repentance plays a part of that salvation?
1152
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.479
Because in First Peter, you know, he talks about being
1153
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:51.439
repentant and baptized and you're in the family of the Lord.
1154
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:55.239
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So my question was
1155
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:59.640
to him, he said. He came out started the class
1156
01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:03.960
like this, he said, how many of you believe that
1157
01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:09.479
Catholics are going to Hell? And you know, anytime somebody
1158
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:11.239
asked a question about it, kind of looks at each other.
1159
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:13.439
Wait for one person raised their hand and I said,
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01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:16.239
I have a caveat, professor, And he said, okay, what's
1161
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:20.319
the caveat? I said, do you believe that repentance what
1162
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:25.319
part of it doesn't play in your salvation? Is it
1163
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:29.039
something that you have to do? And he goes, you know,
1164
01:17:29.119 --> 01:17:30.960
I think a couple of the professors know who I
1165
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:34.800
am and what my beliefs are. And he kind of said, well,
1166
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:39.319
what's your point? And I said, well, if repentance does,
1167
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.079
then we have a big issue. And then he goes, well,
1168
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.000
I see you've watched too many YouTube channels. And I
1169
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:48.000
called him in the web there and I said, I gotcha.
1170
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I said, let me just explain to you, professor, that
1171
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:54.520
twenty six years ago my wife I married a Catholic
1172
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:58.560
woman and we sat down and we started talking about
1173
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:00.920
our beliefs. And I said to her, I said, when
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01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:03.600
you pray, what do you how do you pray? What
1175
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:06.239
do you say? And she goes, well, you know, I
1176
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:09.439
pray to God that you know, if my grandmother's sick,
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01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:12.279
that that shed be healed, and just you know, the
1178
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:16.560
world can find peace and you know those type of things, right.
1179
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:21.640
And I say, well, what about repentance and she goes, oh,
1180
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.319
well that we go to work our priest for that.
1181
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:29.359
So that really caught me off guard. And I said
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that to the pastor, and he, or the professor, he
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was a little taken back because you know, Peter does
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say that. Man, I had the voice somewhere. Oh okay,
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so it's Acts two thirty. You mentioned it earlier, I think, yeah,
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it says then Peter said, unto them, repent and be baptized.
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Every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
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for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the
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gift of the Holy Ghost. Now, I never trivialize, and
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I make this clear all the time. There's no amount
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of works. If it was ninety nine point nine percent
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Jesus and zero point zero one percent us, we would
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fail every time. Right, But that there's a lot of
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01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:14.960
pastors that are trivializing repentance and calling it a work.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah, I know, I know what you're saying. I had
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an uncle will explain that to me one time. He said, like,
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if I say here, you can have my car, well
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you still have to get up and get the keys,
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go pay for taxes and do this, and that does
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01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:46.039
that mean it's still not a free car. So that's
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01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:48.079
kind of how I look at it, Like you're not
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01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:52.520
really doing any works, you're just accepting that gift. If
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that makes sense.
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Yeah, And that if it's a gift, it's given to
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you unconditionally, right and one hundred percent. But I think
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there's a big problem with the idolatry and confessing to
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01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:07.760
another man your sins. I think, oh, yeah, that's again.
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I don't like tells us not to call another man
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father exactly.
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And again I'm not here to bash or any of
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that thing, but I'm just I'm speaking from the Bible.
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So right, thus sayeth the Lord. That's what I when
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I preach, I always say, thus say it the Lord.
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So if you have a problem with it, it's not
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coming from me, It's coming from the Word of God.
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01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:35.760
Yeah, Satan's done a good job of dividing us on
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the Word itself, you know, and Catholics and Baptists and Presbyterians.
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And we just need to follow Jesus Christ.
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That's it, absolutely, that's it.
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That's and that's my my thing.
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Now.
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It's when when people ask me, are you Baptists your method?
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I say, brother, I follow.
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01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:56.159
Christ to see to it that no one takes you
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01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:01.520
captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy which on humans, tradition,
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and the elemental spiritual forces of this world, rather than
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on Christ. Yeah. We we just need to know what
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Scripture says. And that even goes back to biblical cosmology.
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I'm arguing with the guy on TikTok. I've got a
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01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.760
bad habit of just going in on TikTok and you're
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01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:32.960
never going to accomplish anything on there. But he's saying, well,
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I can believe in science and scripture, I believe at all.
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01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:41.680
If you actually knew what Scripture taught, that cannot work.
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That's right.
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So it's just a whole different way of looking at
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the world.
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And there's a presbyter there's a huge Presbyterian church that
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I think is one hundred and fifty years old in Wilmington, Delaware,
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that's the biggest city in our state. And I went
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to there. Somebody said, hey, man, you need to look
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at their what we believe Paige, And I'm just going
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to give you two bullet points from it. It says
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we take the Bible seriously, but not literally. We recognize
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that there are passages in the Bible that stem from
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ancient worldview and a patriarchal society that are with odds
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with the teaching of Christ. I'm not going to finish.
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The second one is we believe following Jesus is the
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best path, but not the only path. And this is
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like one proof out of ten thousand that I have
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on my computer, audio clips, video clips, and these heretic
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01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:41.119
what we believe nonsense that is destroying Christianity.
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Who is that?
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This is the Westminster Presbyterian Church in Wilmington, Delaware. And
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if you google that Westminster Presbyterian Church. And here, let
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me leave a note so I can put it in
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the show. And sometimes I say that, and boy, I
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don't get around, but I am including this one.
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So they believe there's more than there's another way to Jesus.
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Well that's blasphemy right there.
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Well, brother, you know Billy Graham pushed that nonsense.
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Oh yeah, the Sinner's Prayer and all that stuff.
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Yeah, here, I'll show you this church and when you
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see it, you're going to be just it's just an old,
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old church that has So I know a lot of
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states have this problem. I know Texas has like this
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mass migration of people from California who have progressive beliefs,
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but you know, they don't like the states, so they
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move to Texas, but they bring their ideology with them.
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And we have kind of that same problem here. We
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get the New York folks because we don't have taxes,
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like when you go shopping, if milk is two ninety nine,
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you pay two ninety nine, not like three fourteen. So
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everybody moves down here and they bring their ideology and
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it's just it's suffocating. Mm hmm. And you look on
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this church as it's such a beautiful church. Let me
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see if I can. I want to show you this
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before we go off. By the way, we only have
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a couple of minutes left. I'm already running late. If
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there was anything any other bullet points that you had
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while they pulled this up for you to look that
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you wanted to mention real quick.
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I'm looking through my notes here. I just I think
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as a Christian we need to filter our beliefs through
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scripture first, Like when it comes to science and all
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these things, we shouldn't bend scripture to make it fit
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the current scientific belief or whatever. Scriptures should be first
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as Christians, and we need to back up and look
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at things from with a fresh viewpoint. Like you said earlier,
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God's word does not change, but you know science changes
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from day to day, and we just need to be
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on guard for the deception. Like even even where with
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Genesis six, they're like, well, spirit can't interact with the physical. Well,
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the angels have interacted in this world countless times, and
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second kings, the angel came down and killed one hundred
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and eighty five Assyrian soldiers in one night, and Jacob
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01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:37.199
wrestled with with an angel all night and it says
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you've wrestled with God, you'll be called Israel.
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Now like.
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The Elaheen can interact in the physical world. And yeah,
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just I know, I'm all over the place with my notes.
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But now that's been an awesome conversation. Can you see
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01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:04.079
the picture there? Yes, that's a packed, old giant church
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that if you woke up inside you wouldn't know if
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you were in Wilmington, Delaware, were in a fancy church
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in England, and it's packed every Sunday. It is packed
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to the gills. And you know, I showed you that
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what we believe, and here it is in black and white,
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just so you believe it. We take the Bible seriously,
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but not literally. We believe following Jesus is the best path,
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but it's not the only path. And that's where it
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leads to, you know, sodomites in the pulpits and bring
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01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:32.720
it and it's a lowed sin to fester inside the
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01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:37.720
church and our moral compass is just non existent.
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Bro.
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Yeah, dude. See that's what confuses people when you start
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making huge parts of the Bible and allegory, and it's like, well,
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I thought all scripture was God breathed, but then I
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read this verse and you're like, well, that's not what
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they meant, and they just didn't know. It's confusing, and
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like I say, I was baptized when I was a lee,
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and I had these questions. You know, I've come to
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this verse and it says this, but we're taught this
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in school. Oh well, they just didn't know. And I
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think at some point in time I quit asking questions,
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and whether I knew it or not, my mind was like, well,
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I can't really study all these things because I don't
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01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:27.960
know what's true and what's an allegory. And that's part
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of the deception to where we get to where we're
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not reading it literally and we're saying things like, oh,
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I believe Jesus is the way to God, but there's
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also other ways. No, man, no, Like, we can read
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the Bible literally and it makes perfect sense, but that's
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why we're taught the globe and heliocentrism at such a
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young age. And even people in the church, they're like, well,
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they're teaching drag shows and homosexuality and all this stuff
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01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:04.479
to children because kids don't know, and then they'll take
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it and they'll grow up with it and they don't
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have the discernments. So that's why they're going after the kids. Well,
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why are they teaching us hiliocentrism at such a young age?
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Why is that the first thing we're taught. And then
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when we are old enough to where we're actually reading
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scripture and trying to figure it out, we have this
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01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.119
preconceived notion, even though we don't realize it. So we're
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making scripture try to fit the world's the world's lie,
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the world's deception, and it gets us off track.
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All great points.
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Man.
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And I'll tell you most pastors won't touch this because
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they're well a if they're in a like a Methodist
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right or something like that, they have to answer to people,
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and there's no way would they ever let someone come
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in and explain this to them, because those denominations are
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more worried about figures and numbers and carrying on than
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they are. I'm not trying to be too harsh, but
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I just believe I know many pastors around here, and
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before they leave church, they they've got to send that
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email with the numbers, and that's just the truth. And
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God bless people like Dean Odle, who you know, we
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don't see eye to eye on some things, but at
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least he has the courage to teach biblical cosmology. And
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I've had an open invitation out anywhere in this country.
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If you want to fly me in, I will come
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preach it your church. If you're within two or three hours,
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I'll drive to your church. But the problem is, and
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I've had many people say yeah, I'm going to take
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you up, and they go to their pastor and they
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haven't had things as drastic as what you had to endure,
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but it wasn't too far off. They were looked upon,
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as you know. But that's a tough when you've been
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indoctrinated and some of these pastors are sixty seven years
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old and you're like, hey, right, it's that's the reaction
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you get. But you know what, I believe, Evan, I
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want to finish with this. I'm going to throw it
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back to you for the final word, that we are
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going to have bold pastors that come out and speak
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truth and back it up with the word, and the
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people who were true to the word of God are
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going to flock to those people, and I think they're
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really going to take off. Yeah, so I will give
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you the last word, sir.
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Yeah, I know, I've been kind of all over the map.
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I was nervous doing this thing. And it's like you
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told me before this started, you won't get to any
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of your notes. I didn't really, We've just been going
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back and forth on several subjects. But oh what I was,
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I'm going to say, when it comes to church or whatever,
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you don't necessarily have to believe in biblical cosmology and
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flat earth and X y Z. But we're not doing
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ourselves any favors by actively going out of our way
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to not read what the Bible teaches, which you know
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I was speaking of. You know, my girlfriend at least
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she listened to me about when I said, this is
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what I believe, because this is what the Bible said.
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But it seems like the church is the only place
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that has told me, hey, we're not going to talk
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about that here. We're not even willing to look at it,
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even though I've told you how it's changed my life
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and how I can't put scripture down and I just
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want to learn more and more and more. Yeah, I
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think we need to figure out a way for the
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Church to at least be open, to open to know
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what the Bible says. It's so weird. It's such a
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weird dichotomy that we have flat earthers on the corner
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01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:18.279
screaming the Bible is the truth, the Bible is amazing,
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and then the church is teaching NASA like something is
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01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:28.159
backwards here. But yeah, George, I really love your podcast.
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I've listened to them all, and I've listened to rul
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and Firmamental. Of course I've been back to Nephelin Death
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01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:43.680
Squad and all that. But yeah, you're doing a great
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thing by having all these people on around the world,
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and a lot of us we have nobody to talk
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to because a lot of people aren't open to this subject.
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But the people that are, they are on such fire
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for the Lord. And it's like I was telling you
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about that Brahemian grave when they said Christ is King
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and a room full of three hundred people that are
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just on fire for the Lord. You feel that, and
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it makes you think about the early Church, how it
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says they were all in one accord and it was
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just and it grew so much like it's it's a
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beautiful thing in God's word. So I think we should
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all just pray for discernment God look into our hearts
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and just just pray that we grow and always look
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at Him for guidance.
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Amen. And it's very when somebody asks us a question,
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it's very simple. We should just reply with what does
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the Bible say? And we should look literally be like
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the brand's brother. It was a really good conversation. Thanks
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for your time. God bless you and praying that you
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find a church that welcomes you and is you know,
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gives expository sermons, you know, verse by verse and breaks
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it down and is willing to hear the word of God.
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And you know, just pray that that happens to you
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in the near future. Stay in touch, brother, and thanks
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again for your time.
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Sure, thanks, thanks a lot, George, I appreciate it.
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Yeah, for sure. And to all the listeners, thank you
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for your continued support. The email address is If you
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have a question or a general inquiry, send it to
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the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. If you'd
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like to be a guest like Evan is today, please
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do send us an email. I think we are booked
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through the end of the month. And we are now
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into August. So please reach out, say hello. We'll send
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you a brief questionnaire. Find your time zone out and
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we'll find a time and date that works for you.
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For Evan, I'm George, God bless you. Keep your head
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on a swivel, in Christ in your heart until we
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meet again. My friends, we will see you.
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I will searching.
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Foo the.
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Looking for a lie I never know, build my life
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on shifting chadows to your mercy. Called me home.
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I heard a voice beyond the fund channel as the
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morning man. You said, child, I've paid the answer. You
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don't have to wear your change.
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Pasel around prices bad, he stays.
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Say lift joys.
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The king is a raison he has concored dead forever more.
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Lift job is he raising glory? Every need will bow
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before the Lord. No crown cool, never save us, no
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work A man can cleanse our soul.
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Only g esus, bly geus.
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They stop, brow can hold.
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When the nation is shakes, when the mountains fall, when
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the heave is thunder. He is old.
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Roll my by beer, not by power, the by kingdoms
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built by man, by the blood of Christ.
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The spawnless.
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Boy, poly weary, the less holy, holy, the grace from
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the cross to the bread, to the empty to you
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love me.
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Every song, confience, every.
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Hot pro claim, Jesus cries for swen.
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My final breath.
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Is take.
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And earthly songs have apen songs. I will stand before
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my safe your.
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And hear the word well done. Forever, your ver cried,
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wherever king.
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You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.
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Just the facts, ma'am, m hm