Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Fellow Travelers (9/21/26)

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What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Virginia Roberts named by name several very powerful people. And
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one of those very powerful people was George Mitchell. Now
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George Mitchell, for those of you who might not remember,
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was a mover and shaker in politics for a very,
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very long time. He played a very big part in
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bringing the troubles over in Ireland and England and to
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a halt as far as an American representative over there
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acting in that capacity. And he was somebody who has been,
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you know, a top figure in American politics for a very,
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very long time. He was a man who had considerable
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influence in Washington, D.C. for a very long time and
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somebody who had no business hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
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let's remember, Virginia Roberts named him by name. Nobody just
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pulled this name out of the sky. Nobody showed up
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one day and said, ah, George Mitchell, that sounds like
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the guy.
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There's a reason.
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Virginia directly pointed to him and said, he's responsible. He's
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one of the men that I was passed off to.
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So my question for you is this. Where is the
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legacy media? Why aren't they bringing people like George Mitchell
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to the forefront? You would think that a man who
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has been so... you know, locked into politics for so
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long in America, would be brought up. But just like
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Bill Clinton and Bill Richardson, the legacy media has no
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desire to pursue.
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Any of these people.
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So before we get into our article today, let's just
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take a look at who George Mitchell is. And this
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is right from Wikipedia. George John Mitchell Jr., born August
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20th of 1933, is an American politician, diplomat, and lawyer.
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A leading member of the Democratic Party, he served as
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a United States Senator from Maine from 1980 to 1995
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and as Senate Majority Leader from 1989 to 1995. After
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retiring from the Senate, Mitchell played a leading role in
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negotiations for peace in Northern Ireland and the Middle East.
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He was appointed the United States Special Envoy for Northern
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Ireland 1995 to 2001 and by President Clinton, and as
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United States Special Envoy for Middle East Peace by President
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Barack Obama. Now, mind you, this is a man who
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was allegedly taking part in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual dalliances, sexual escapades,
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abusing girls, someone who has been directly pointed at. And
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for all of those people out there that are always
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talking about, where are.
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The names, where are the names?
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Well, Virginia has given you folks several names, and nobody
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has done anything about it. So, it's either time to
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shit or get off the pot. Plenty of names out there,
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and we're going to keep talking about these names, okay?
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Mitchell was a primary architect of the 1996 Mitchell Principles
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and the 1998 Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland, and
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was the main investigator in two Mitchell reports, one on
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the Arab-Israeli conflict, 2001, and one on the use of
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performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, 2007. Mitchell served as the chairman
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of the Walt Disney Company from March 2004 until January
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of 2007, and later as chairman of the international law.
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Firm DLA Piper. Huh.
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Where have we heard the name DLA Piper before? You
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see all of these Epstein connections right here, just talking
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about the man's profile? But yet nobody has the desire
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to go deep? Ask yourselves why. He was the Chancellor
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of Queen's University in Belfast, Northern Ireland from 1999 to 2009.
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Mitchell also served as the co-chair of the Housing Commission
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at the Bipartisan Policy Center. Okay, so that is George
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Mitchell in a nutshell. Obviously, there's a much longer profile here.
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And when you look at it in the Wikipedia page,
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you have just a little blurb about the Epstein scandal.
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So let's read that as well. Virginia Roberts, a woman
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who has long claimed that disgraced financier, pedophile, and convicted
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sex offender Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with
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powerful men named Mitchell in documents unsealed on August 9th, 2019,
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a day before Epstein's death, by a federal court in
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Southern District of New York. The papers included affidavits and
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depositions of key witnesses in a 2015 lawsuit that Roberts
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filed against Epstein and associate Ghislaine Maxwell. Roberts accused the
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two individuals of sex trafficking her, the high-profile individuals, including Mitchell,
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in the early 2000s while she was underage. Now, mind you,
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at the time, remember what we just read, Mitchell was
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a big representative of the United States at this time.
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Mitchell denied ever having met or spoken with Roberts and
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stated that he became aware of Epstein's criminal prosecution only
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through the media. On November 30th, 2021... Epstein's former pilot,
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Larry Vesosky, named Mitchell as one of the people he
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recalled flying on one of Epstein's private planes, but claimed
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he'd never seen sexual activity, nor indication that such activity
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had taken place. Now you see how it's posted here
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in Wikipedia? As if Virginia's lying. Now, ask yourselves why
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they're so unwilling to believe Virginia, but so willing to
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believe all of these unnamed sources that you see littered
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throughout the media. But a powerful man like George Mitchell
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isn't worthy of any attention. Well, we're changing that today.
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We're talking about George Mitchell. And to do that, we
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have an article from the University of Maine or Maine
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Campus Media, I guess I should say. Headline, University of
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Maine is no place for Epstein accomplices. Rename the Mitchell Center.
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This article was authored by Nicholas Tyner. My body was
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put on the banquet menu for a powerful senator, George Mitchell.
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Virginia Roberts' shocking manuscript detailing her abuse at the hands
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of Jeffrey Epstein and others sent shockwaves across high-class society.
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But It has also made an impact in Orono, Maine.
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Former Senator George Mitchell, who is listed as a sexual
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abuser by Roberts, is honored on the University of Maine
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campus through the Senator George J. Mitchell Center for Sustainable Solutions.
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This building must be renamed.
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I agree with that.
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It must.
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It should be.
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Just like down in Ohio State. We're going to talk
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about that a little bit later too. The letter that
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the wrestler sent down there about Les Wexner. It's the
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same thing. How many times are we going to see it, folks?
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Why are some people being ignored in this story while
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other people are being pursued? Everybody should be pursued. Mitchell,
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one of the most powerful people in Maine's history, denied
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the allegations of participating in the sex trafficking of minors.
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He was also named in a 2016 sworn deposition, alleging
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he received a sexual massage from a minor at Epstein's
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Palm Beach mansion. The conviction of Epstein and the fate
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of the others named by Roberts all but destroys any
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integrity the former Senate majority leader can claim.
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100%.
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So my question is, all of the people out there
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that are swinging these political cudgels talking about this one
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or that one, why aren't we ever talking about it?
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Bill Richardson.
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Why don't we talk about George J.
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Mitchell?
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These are very powerful people who are still movers and
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shakers within the establishment. We have Bill Richardson still taking
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part in these negotiations for Brittany Griner. Why is that possible?
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Why is that happening? Why is it possible that he
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is still doing that? And you mean to tell me
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nobody at the White House or in the government understands
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what Bill Richardson is? Oh, they do, folks, but guess what?
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I know this is going to be a hard blow
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to take for some of you out there, but Biden
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doesn't care, okay? They don't care. None of them care.
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And I don't know how many more times I have
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to drive that point home. Amongst the other names listed
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is Prince Andrew, who has been recently stripped of his
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royal titles by Queen Elizabeth as he faces an ongoing
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trial for his actions. Jean-Luc Brunel has also been indicted
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for raping a minor. Former governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson,
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has a long history of corruption and pre-existing allegations for
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paying a woman off to cover up an illicit affair. Yeah,
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this is your boy, Bill Richardson. Good old Bill Richardson,
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who's still welcomed in the current regime, still welcomed in
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the so-called society, while many fingers are being pointed at him.
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At the same time, these same people will tell you, oh, well,
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there's these unfounded allegations about so-and-so.
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We need to be cancelled. The hypocrisy is so thick
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that your boy can hardly breathe.
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Billionaires Glenn and Eva Dubin also faced further allegations put
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forth by their former butler for trafficking minors for sex. Eva,
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Epstein's ex-girlfriend, and Glenn defended Epstein during his 2008 trial,
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which resulted in Epstein becoming a registered sex offender. After
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the conviction, the Dubins wrote a letter stating that they
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were 100% comfortable with Epstein around their three young children.
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It was subsequently reported that Epstein had an interest in
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marrying their daughter that he had been especially close with
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since she was 12 years old, of which the Dubins
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were aware. All of that, every last bit of it,
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is creepy as the day is long. I wouldn't let
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Jeffrey Epstein within a city block of my child. You
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think I'm kidding when I say that? I am not.
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I have... me tell you something, okay? I am deathly
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afraid of going to prison. Deathly afraid. I know I
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wouldn't last there. I'm not that kind of guy. I
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don't have it in my heart to be ruthless and brutal,
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and I just can't do it. But when it comes
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to being wronged, and somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, there would
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be no force on this planet that would stop me
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from going after him as a parent. What he did
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to these children is just absolutely abhorrent. And the fact
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that he was able to get away with it for
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so long with people at his side like George Mitchell
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is just beyond the pale. And I really wish some
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of these so-called journalists out there that spend their time
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dividing the populace would do something good for once. and
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really dig in deep here. Epstein had 12 phone numbers
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and two addresses for Mitchell in his famous black book.
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In a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein, where
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he lauded Mitchell as the world's greatest negotiator, Mitchell stated,
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I would certainly call him a friend and a supporter.
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This profile was written two years after Mitchell's friend began
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grooming Roberts after meeting her at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club.
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And many years after, Epstein first became an active pedophile.
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For me, folks, I have to be very clear with you.
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The whole entire establishment, the whole entire so-called elite society,
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both sides of the aisle, is so guilty here of
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not caring about what these girls were going through or
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what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. I mean... This case
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is just littered with scumbags. You have on one side
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of it, Acosta and his friends, you know, the Mukases
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of the world, the Bushites, not pressing charges on Epstein.
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And then on the flip side of it, you have
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the other side of the aisle, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell,
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Bill Clinton, partaking in the absolute abuse of these girls.
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So you have one side of our political spectrum abusing
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these girls while the other side's covering it up. See
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what I mean when I talk about how it's all fake?
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It's all political circus. That's all they're doing is giving
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you bread and circus so that you're not focused on
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their bullshit. In last year's trial of Epstein's co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell,
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where she was found guilty on five of six counts,
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her pilot testified to seeing Mitchell on Epstein's private planes.
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These planes had nicknames such as the Lolita Express. Mitchell
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was listed on Epstein's flight logs multiple times in a
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stretch between 1994 and 1998. Mitchell's Epstein connections have led
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many in Philadelphia to speculate as to whether those played
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a role in the archdiocese of Philadelphia's choice to put
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Mitchell in charge of their fund to compensate victims of
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sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy. As a
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lawyer for many victims put it, it's just more of
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the same. And this is my biggest problem, folks. Why
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is George Mitchell involved in that? There's nobody else out
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there that could do this job. We have to go
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get George Mitchell to do it, huh? The world's greatest negotiator.
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Miss me with all of it. I am tired of
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all of the bullshit. I'm tired of the gaslighting. And
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I'm tired of not getting to the point of things.
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Mitchell is a known associate of a prolific pedophile and
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human trafficker. Roberts is to be believed, and her story
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is damning. To keep his name on any building on
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this campus will not only show contempt for survivors of Epstein,
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but any survivors of sexual assault who attend this university.
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And that's a big fact. Look, I'm not an advocate, okay?
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I'm not somebody who gets on here and says, oh yeah,
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believe all women, or I don't roll like that, folks.
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I believe the evidence. And I believe what I think
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is right, and what I think is wrong. And for me,
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nobody who has been rolling around with Epstein should have
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their name on any building, especially on a college campus.
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The Water Resource Center was renamed the George J. Mitchell
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Center for Sustainable Solutions in 2000. It can and should
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be renamed again. George Mitchell does not actually fund the center.
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He made a one-time donation around the time it was
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renamed after him, and it's merely named to honor him.
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The renaming of Williams Hall, formerly named Little Hall after
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a noted eugenist, offers precedent for this type of move. Look,
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nobody says that he has to keep his name on
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this building. Where's that written in stone? Did Moses get
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some tablets that say George Mitchell has to keep his
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name on the building? Considerations for the renaming could be
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famed environmentalist Rachel Carson's who summered in Maine, or this
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can be an opportunity to work with Maine's Native American
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tribes to rename the center after a leader in their community,
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regardless of what the new name would be, for the
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renaming is indisputable. No building on campus should be named
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after a sexual abuser, much less one with the Epstein
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scandal section on his Wikipedia page. Look, George Mitchell is
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up to his neck in this shit. You never hear
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his name. You never hear Bill Richardson's name either. The
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legacy media likes to focus on guys like Alex Acosta.
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You know why?
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Because it's low-hanging fruit and it gets people into a tizzy.
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But the real meat and potatoes here are the people
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that have already been named and nothing has been done about.
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So when are all of these people that want to
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point out Acosta and point out these other folks who
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have already been sanctioned, who have already lost their jobs,
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who have already paid penalties, instead start focusing on guys
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like George Mitchell, Bill Richardson, Glenn Dubin, Les Wexner, Alan Dershowitz,
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and a few others who have all been directly named
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by Virginia Roberts?
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Shouldn't we start there?
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I mean, all of the smoke is coming out of
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a building on the Las Vegas Strip, but instead we're
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going to go downtown and.
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See where the fire is.
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It's ludicrous, it's misdirection, and your boy is not falling
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for it. All right, folks, that's going to do it
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for this one. If you'd like to contact me, you
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can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com.
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You can also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I.
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One of the people that was directly accused of having
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relations with Virginia Roberts while she was being trafficked by
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Jeffrey Epstein is an AI pioneer named Marvin Minsky. And
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we've talked about him before, but I figured since we
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were doing a refresher course on some of the scumbags
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that were in Epstein's orbit, we might as well talk
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about Mr. Minsky again, right? Considering he's one of the
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people that Virginia has publicly named. So people who talk
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about names and people who might have been involved, there
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are several people that Virginia has publicly named to have
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taken part in her abuse. And this person we're about
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to talk about in this episode is one of those
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people who has been accused. So let's get right to
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it and see what this article from The Verge has
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for us.
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Headline.
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AI pioneer accused of having sex with trafficking survivor on
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Jeffrey Epstein's island. Marvin Minsky was named alongside several other
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prominent men. So the people who are named directly, everybody
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wants names. We should be going after those people right away.
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And when I say go after, I mean the government
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should be going after them to speak to them, to
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bring them in, get them on record, put them under oath.
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And then that way, if they lie to you, you
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got them for perjury. But they haven't even done any
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of that. And that's what's confounding about the whole thing.
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That's what makes so many people so angry. because everything
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is right here for them, they just refuse to do
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it for whatever reason. This article was authored by Russell Brandom.
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A survivor of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein testified that she
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was forced to have sex with MIT professor Marvin Minsky,
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as revealed in a newly unsealed deposition. Now, you would
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think that this would be a bombshell, and that the
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media would be all over this. especially considering how we
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have seen the media transform and they don't need any
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secondary sourcing anymore. Everything is just anonymous source this, anonymous
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source that, a well-placed source who has, you know, information
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on the topic. So if that's good enough to run,
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you mean to tell me that Virginia Roberts and what
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she has to say, that isn't strong enough for you
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to do a big piece on it? I mean, let's
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be real. You mean to tell me that there's more
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there than there is here? Absolutely not. Considering we have
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people who have been convicted on the word of Virginia already,
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you would think that some of her other allegations would
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be looked at more seriously. Epstein was registered as a
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sex offender in 2008 as part of a controversial plea deal.
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More recently, he was arrested on charges of sex trafficking
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amid a flood of new allegations. Minsky, who died in 2016,
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was a known associate of Epstein, but this is the
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first direct accusation implicating the AI pioneer in Epstein's broader
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sex trafficking network. The deposition also names Prince Andrew of
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Britain and former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, among others.
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So when this all came out, you would think that
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there would have been a furor to figure out what
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went on here and get to the bottom of it.
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But there never really was, was there? Has Bill Richardson
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ever really been grilled the correct way? Now just take
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a look at the way the Daily Mail and other
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quote-unquote tabloids went after Prince Andrew, and then compare that
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to the way that people who are associates of Epstein
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here in America have been treated. Has anyone been hounding
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folks the way the Daily Mail has? If it wasn't
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for them, we wouldn't have had the pictures of Ehud
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Barak or a score of other tidbits that we had.
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So for all of their tabloid nonsense, they did a
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real good job as far as covering this stuff. Whereas
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the legacy media in the United States, well, they want
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to get up there and sing their own praises all
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the time. But when it really comes down to it,
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where were they? The accusation made against Minsky was made
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by Virginia Roberts, who was deposed in May of 2016
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as part of a broader defamation suit between her and
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an Epstein associate, co-conspirator you mean, named Ghislaine Maxwell. In
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the deposition, Roberts says she was directed to have sex
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with Minsky when he visited Epstein's compound in the U.S.
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Virgin Islands. And this next little part here is Virginia's
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direct testimony as she's being questioned.
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Question.
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And other than telling you to go give the owner
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of this large hotel chain a massage, do you remember
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any other words she used to you to direct you
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in what you should do? Virginia answers, not at the time, no.
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Question.
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Where did, where were you, and where was Ms. Maxwell
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when she directed you to go and have sex with
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Marvin Minsky?
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Mr.
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Mr.
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Edwards, Brad Edwards. This is he objects to the form answer.
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I don't know.
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Question by Miss Manager. Where did you go to have
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sex with Marvin Minsky? Answer.
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Virginia Roberts. I believe it was the U.S.
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Virgin Islands. Jeff's sorry. Jeffrey Epstein's Island in the U.S.
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Virgin Islands. And when was that? Answer.
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I don't know.
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So that was part of the deposition taken directly from
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the deposition of what Virginia says. Now, even if you
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don't believe her, right, even if you don't believe a
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word she has to say, don't you think it would
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be prudent to speak to everybody involved, considering that she
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made these comments in court? And if she was lying,
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by the way, folks, don't you think that she would
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have been nailed already for perjury? You know, the same
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thing Maxwell is getting hit with. And that only leads
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me to believe that the investigators and the people who
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are taking part in this investigation, or whatever you want
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to call it, believe Virginia Roberts is telling the truth.
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As part of the defamation suit, Maxwell's counsel denied the allegations,
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calling them salacious and improper. Representatives for Roberts and Maxwell
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did not immediately respond to requests for comment. A separate
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witness lent credence to Roberts' account, testifying that she and
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Minsky had taken a private plane from Teterboro to Santa
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Fe and Palm Beach in March 2001. We all know
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all of these scientists that were Epstein's homies were not
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only going to the Virgin Islands, they were going to
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New Mexico, too. You have Santa Fe Institute there. You
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have Los Alamitos.
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I mean, come on.
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You have a whole slew of scientific installations. Maxwell, Chef
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Adam Perry Lang, and shipping air Henry Jarecki were also
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passengers on the flight, according to the deposition. At the
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time of the flight, Roberts was 17 and Minsky was 73.
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Another one of these creepy ass, Crypt Keeper looking MFers
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who were using Jeffrey Epstein's.
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Services like it was no big deal.
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A pivotal member of MIT's Artificial Intelligence Lab, Marvin Minsky
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pioneered early self-training algorithms, most notably in his 1969.
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Book, Perceptrons.
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He also developed the first head-mounted display, a precursor to
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modern VR and augmented reality systems. So this is the
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dick you can blame for that. Got people walking around,
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crashing into their walls, running into their TV, acting like
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a bunch of epic morons, hanging out in the metaverse,
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whatever the hell you want to call it.
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Here's your guy.
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You can miss me with all that metaverse shit while
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you're busy living inside your computer like this is virtuosity.
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I'll be out in the mountains having a climb. Minsky
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was one of a number of prominent scientists with ties
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to Jeffrey Epstein, who often called him a science philanthropist
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and donated to research projects and academic institutions. Many of
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those scientists were affiliated with Harvard, including physicist Lawrence Krauss,
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geneticist George Church, and cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker. Funny they
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mention George Church, considering he's working on a CIA-led back
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project to bring a woolly mammoth back to life.
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Sounds like fun.
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Minsky's affiliation with Epstein went particularly deep, including organizing a
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two-day symposium on artificial intelligence at Epstein's private island in 2002,
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as reported by Slate. In 2012, the Jeffrey Epstein Foundation
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issued a press release touting another conference organized by Minsky
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on the island in December of 2011, after Epstein was
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a molester. There's no excuse for it. You really mean
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to tell me Minsky had no idea? All these so-called
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bright mind scientists had no idea?
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Okay, sure.
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The private island is alleged to have been the site
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of an immense sex trafficking ring. But Epstein associates have
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argued that those crimes were not apparent to Epstein's social relations,
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despite the presence of young women at many of his gatherings. Look,
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they have plausible deniability. I'm not going to deny it.
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There's no way to prove if they knew or they
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didn't know. But logic dictates in this moment that they
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did know. These people were seen not only by me,
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Alan Dershowitz argued in a 2015 deposition, they were seen
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by Larry Summers, they were seen by George Church, and
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they were seen by Marvin Minsky. They were seen by
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most of the most eminent academics and scholars in the world.
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That's not a mark of approval there, buddy, all right?
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You're not giving me confidence because of a bunch of
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pencil neck dweebs are hanging out on this island, especially
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when a lot of them are also being accused. Dershowitz
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has had all kinds of defenses for what his behavior
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with Epstein was, and none of them seem to pass
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the sniff test for me. There was no hint or
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suggestion that anything sexual or improper in the presence of
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these people, Dershowitz continued. No, nothing at all. I mean,
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the guy was only a level three sex offender and
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you were only breaking bread with him. You were only
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hanging out with him. How's the old saying go? You
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are the company that you keep. But again, folks, another
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example of somebody who's a prominent somebody whose name has
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been out there, whose name has been in the atmosphere
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about their alleged behavior. And what's been done with it?
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Has there been big gigantic write-ups, reporters going to dig
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into the case to figure it out? Of course not.
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We all know that there hasn't been. And that's because
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people really don't want to pull back the curtain and
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expose just how disgusting the contents of this room really are.
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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can
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also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The
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link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
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All right, folks. So what we're going to talk about
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this morning as far as the topic is Jeffrey Epstein's obviously,
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and his buddy in the hair salon industry, Mr. Fred Fouquet. Now,
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we've done an article on this very subject before, but
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it was a long, long time ago. So, I thought
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that we'd pop back in and we'd jog your memory
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a little bit. on just how smarmy and scummy all
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of these enablers were, and all of these people who
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were still associating with Epstein even after his first arrest.
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This article is from the Daily Beast. Headline, Epstein flaunted
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girls after his arrest at hair salon for the stars.
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This article was authored by Emily Sugarman. This article was
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originally authored on October 6th of 2019. In the years
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after he registered as a sex offender... pedophile Jeffrey Epstein
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launched a veritable crusade to rehabilitate his image. No doubt
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about that. The dude was literally on a crusade to
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fix his image. We've talked about the money at the universities.
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We know about the people in the business world that
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were helping him refurbish his image. We know about the politicians.
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We know about the royals. So yeah, that's exactly what
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was occurring. There's no doubt. And all of the people
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that made that a reality all of them should be
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held accountable for helping this man refurbish his image. The
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convicted felon donated to prominent charities, convinced friends to invite
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him to A-list events, and took to wearing a Harvard
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sweatshirt whenever there was a camera around. But among the
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most important stops on Epstein's comeback tour were his regular
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appointments at hairdresser Frederick Fakai's high-profile salons. So Frederick Fakai
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is like a, you know, top-notch hair guy, hairdresser. You know,
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a lot of the stars go to him. Big shot
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in New York. And this was a place where Jeffrey
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Epstein had it set up that he could send the
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girls down there as core four whenever he wanted to
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get their hair done. to get them all spiffed up,
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you know, the whole nine. So it wasn't like it
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was just a loose business relationship between the two. They
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obviously were very tight, and Jeffrey Epstein would send his girls.
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There for a reason, right?
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Multiple former Fakai employees told the Daily Beast that Epstein
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regularly brought groups of young women into the New York
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salon after his conviction. where he paid for their services
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and had them sit on his lap and stroke his hair.
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What a weirdo, dude. This guy would bring in these girls, right?
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Just think about it for a minute. He'd bring in
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these girls from disadvantaged backgrounds, girls that he had been grooming,
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girls that he had been setting up for the trafficking
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ring or whatever. And then he'd bring them down to
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this salon, like he's the, you know, the grand poobah
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or something. And he'd have them down there sitting on
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his lap, playing.
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With his hair.
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It's just ultra creepy to think about. This dumbass faced
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MF sitting there. Having these young girls playing with his hair.
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And all of this jazz. And nobody saying anything about it.
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Nobody you know. Tapping the guy next to him and saying.
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Hey what the. What's up with this dude. What is
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going on over here. But you see folks. For us
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it would be weird.
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For us we would ask questions.
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But not them. In their world. The way that they
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conduct themselves. This shit is commonplace. Obviously. When he was
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in Florida, former employees said Epstein would have Fakai stylists
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make house calls to his Palm Beach estate. It doesn't
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sound like people that just had a business relationship, right?
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We're talking pretty close friends. We're talking, I am so
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close to you that even when I'm in Palm Beach...
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that I'm going to have you send down stylists to
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take care of the needs of the girls that I
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have here that I'm trafficking or abusing or grooming for
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that purpose. I'm going to have your people come down
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to take care of them. Does that sound like somebody
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who isn't close with somebody? You give your business to
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the people you're close to, right? Unbeknownst to them, Fakai's
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brand had received an influx of cash years earlier from
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a company backed by L Brands, the same retailer owned
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by Epstein's only known client, Les Wexner. Not anymore. And again,
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it's all coincidence, right? That's what they would have you believe.
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And if we didn't go through all of these articles
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the way that we do, their narrative would be the narrative, right?
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It would be it. But when you go through all
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of these articles and you start putting them against each other,
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running the articles against each other, you start to see
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the big picture here. You start to understand very quickly
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that this isn't just all coincidence. That all of this
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stuff ties in together. Either in a very close manner
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or at the very least, loosely. And all of these
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people are connected. What do you think, it just so
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happened that the L Brands gave an influx of cash
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to Fakai and then Epstein, that's the place where Epstein
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goes to bring the girls to get their hair and
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stuff done? There's no coincidences here, folks, alright?
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All of this stuff adds up.
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A spokesperson for Frederick Fakai Brands said the company had
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been sold by the time of Epstein's conviction in 2008
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and that Fakai was not involved in the salons at
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the time. Neither he nor the current management team had
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any knowledge of the incident's described end. In Mr. Fakai's
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limited acquaintance with Mr. Epstein, he never witnessed any of
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the deplorable conduct that led to Mr. Epstein's conviction, the
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spokesperson said. All of these people with the same story. Oh,
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we had no idea what was going on. I had
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no clue. There were no signs. Jeff's just a really
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good-looking guy, you know, Brad Pitt-esque, and the girls are
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all over him. A regular old Casanova. Yeah, maybe if
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you're blind. Two decades ago, Epstein would have been indistinguishable
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from the dozens of celebrity clients who flocked to Fakai's
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Upper East Side Salon. Fakai, a charismatic co-worker, Known for
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his boyish good looks, opened his first salon in 1988
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and rose quickly from unknown French hairdresser to stylist to
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the stars. Oh, another Frenchman, huh? I'm wondering, does he
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know Jean-Luc Brunel? I wonder how close they are. He
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styled celebrities like Demi Moore. Jodie Foster and Meryl Streep
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for the red carpet, and was credited with giving Hillary
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Clinton her signature short-layer do. Oh, another tie, huh? Just
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another coincidence that Hillary Clinton used to go there as well, right?
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All these stars went there, Bobby, alright? What are you
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talking about? Okay, just a coincidence. A 2005 New York
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Times article listed cuts at Fakai's salon, which could run
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up to $ 750 apiece... as one of the many upsides
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for Epstein's personal assistants. Yeah, so, you know, there was
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no relationship there. He just sent them down to Fakai's because,
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why not? Such BS. Obviously, Epstein and Fakai were a
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lot closer than is being stated. Obviously, they had a friendship. Obviously,
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they were boys. Just like with Leon Black and Jess
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Staley and the rest of these people who act like
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they weren't friendly with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, it comes to
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a point in time when they can no longer deny that.
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So they move into another form of denial, right? Oh, well,
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I might have known him, but I had no idea
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what he was doing. How many times are we going
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to hear that same broken record from different people? In
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addition to the rich payday, he also ladles on the perks,
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the article said, of the financier, pedophile. He maintains a
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charge account at Frederick Fakai, the society hairdresser for their
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unlimited use, and pays for all food eaten during his
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lengthy business hours, including takeout from Le Cirque. Oh, fancy. Mr.
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Fancy Pants over here. So again, He is close enough
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to the Fakai brand that he has a charge account
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with them. That's not for normal people. That's for big shots, right?
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And when you're a big shot, you better believe the
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owner of the product that you're purchasing certainly knows your name,
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certainly knows who you are, and certainly comes out from
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the back room to greet you when you show up
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at the shop. Furthermore, You can't get away from the
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fact that Fakai was sending his hairdressers down to Palm
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Beach for Epstein. But Fakai and Epstein appeared to be
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closer than just stylist and client. The pedophile had 16
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numbers for Fakai in his black book of contacts, including
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the hairdresser's home number, his French cell phone, and a
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number for his assistant. Flight logs show Fakai flew on
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Epstein's private plane at least twice in 2000 and 2002,
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along with Epstein's alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, and his shady
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model scout pal, Jean-Luc Brunel. They're both in jail, by
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the way, okay, for human trafficking. All right? Epstein's dead.
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Charged with human trafficking. But Fakai knows nothing. He's around
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all of these people. He's flying on the plane with
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these people, but he knows nothing. And it was just
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a business relationship, according to him. Yeah? Why you on
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that plane there, chief? What are you doing flying around
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on Jeffrey Epstein's plane if you guys are not homies?
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Simone Banos, a longtime friend of Fakai, told the Daily
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Beast that Epstein and Fakai ran in similar New York
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social circles, but said she couldn't imagine the hairdresser staying
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friends with Epstein. after he was convicted of soliciting a
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minor for prostitution and accused by dozens more of sexual assault.
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You know, people always say that, right? And, I, you know,
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I'd want to think that about my friends too. Nah,
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that might, no way. No way Jason did that. But
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we don't know what people do when those doors are closed.
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Everybody has two faces, right? The face they present to
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the public and then their true face. So you never know.
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and for people to come out and say, oh, well,
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there's no way. I just, I find that ridiculous, honestly.
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Unless you spent every waking moment with the person, you know,
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there's a lot of allegations here. A spokesperson for Fakai
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said the hairdresser had a very limited acquaintance with Epstein,
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who was known to aggressively cultivate celebrities. He was not
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Epstein's friend. Or his stylist. No, not at all. No,
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not at all. No. And another thing. He was known
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to cultivate... What does that say about celebrities and stylists
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and politicians? A bunch of jackwagons who all they see
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in their eyes are dollar signs and they don't care
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where they come from. Do we have to establish that
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any more solidly? Frederick is disgusted and sickened by Epstein's activities,
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which no one was aware of in 2000 and 2002,
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when Frederick accepted a ride on his jet, except that
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girls were being abused at that point. What other girls
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were on those planes while you were on those planes, Frederick?
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How many of those girls were being abused at the
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time you were on those planes, Frederick? Maybe not right
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then at that moment, Frederick, but how many? of those
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girls who were being transported across state lines to be abused,
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were you hanging out with? Had he been aware, he
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would have never boarded that plane, let alone with his
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five-year-old son, his son's nanny, and his girlfriend at the time,
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another one who brings his family up, huh? Here's an idea.
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Stop it. But four former Fakai employees said Epstein remained
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a regular at the salon... even after his 2008 conviction.
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Three of these employees were called Epstein, bringing a rotating
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cast of tall, beautiful, and suspiciously young-looking women with him
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for monthly appointments. So, you notice how it's like the
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normal folks that work in these establishments who say, yeah,
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those girls look young, man. Shit did not sit well
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with me. Those are the normal people, you know, like us.
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We look at this shit and we're like, yeah, something's
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a little off here. But again, these people, it's commonplace
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for them. That's how they live their lives. They all
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think that they're like 10th century dukes and everybody's living
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in their duchy and they can do whatever the hell
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they want. The fourth employee remembered Epstein bringing women in
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with him, but could not recall details of their interactions.
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The financier, pedophile, paid for the women's haircuts and dye
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jobs from his house account, the employee said, and either
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he or or a female associate, dictated exactly how their
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hair was styled. In between services, the women sat on
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Epstein's lap or stroked his hair, in full view of
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hundreds of guests of Fakai's 9,000-square-foot hair emporium. It was
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very out there in the open, one former employee said.
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Everyone knew. No shit, everyone knew. Thanks for being honest,
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at least, in saying everyone knew. So... A female associate
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dictated exactly how their hair was styled? I wonder who
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that female associate was. Sarah Kellen Vickers is my guess,
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or Ghislaine Maxwell. One of the two. He didn't give
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an F, another former employee said. He was coming in
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like he was running the show. He didn't care. And
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this is after his first conviction, remember. Epstein came in
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there brazenly with these young girls and did whatever he wanted.
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boarded the planes with these young girls... even after his arrest...
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and according to Denise George... he was still abusing these
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young girls... after his arrest. So Mr. Fakai.
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You got a lot to answer for... you smarmy son
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of a bitch. Several of the former employees... told the
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Daily Beast... they asked not to work with Epstein... or
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the women he brought in... after his conviction. But they
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also said... they did not want to complain too much...
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because it was clear Epstein was friendly with Fakai, and
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because they could not tell if something illegal was going on. So,
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do you blame them? I mean, if I owned a
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hairdressing shop, a hairstylist, and Jeffrey Epstein walked in, and
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one of my employees said, hey, look, Bobby, I'm not
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comfortable working with this guy. I wouldn't work with him.
712
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Pretty simple. I mean, obviously, as an owner, I would
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never let Epstein in my establishment. I'm just saying of
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any client, right? If you're an employer and your employee
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comes to you with that sort of issue, you have
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to take note. And not only take note, you have
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to take action if you're a good manager or a
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good owner. I know me in a management position. I
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would do everything in my power to protect my employees
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from a shitty situation. The thing is, we can never
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tell how old the girls were, one former employee said.
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They came in heels, makeup, They were all way too
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young for him. But legal? You didn't always know. And
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that's definitely a problem too, right? We don't. How do
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you know? I live in Las Vegas. Home of the
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young lady that looks like she's 30. You can't tell
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who's 16 or 30 these days. Especially if they're getting
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all dolled up by Jeffrey Epstein's stylists. One thing is certain.
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Epstein was running around with a bunch of young girls
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that he should not have been running around with.
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Point blank. Period.
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But he was a pig no matter what the employee added. Fair.
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Very fair.
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That's a good way to explain Jeffrey Epstein. Straight and
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to the point, huh?
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He was a pig.
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In Palm Beach, the ritzy vacation town where Epstein was
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first charged, Fakai employees said Stylist made regular house calls
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to the financier, pedophile, in the same $ 2. 5 million estate
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where he spent his year-long house arrest. So again, They
741
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were coming down to Florida, folks. This wasn't just like, oh,
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I got a stylist in New York, I got me
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one in Florida, my preferred stylist, blah, blah, blah. No,
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it wasn't that. One stylist said he was first introduced
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to Epstein by Fakai himself at the New York salon
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and started cutting Epstein's hair at his Palm Beach home
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in 2012. Three current and former co-workers confirmed that they
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had heard the stylist talk about these trips. So... For
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the Fakai folks to come out and act like they
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weren't close with Epstein is just bupkis. Absolute BS. And
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if you're lying about that, what else are you lying about?
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Paging the FBI. Paging the department of just us. Paging
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Maureen Comey. Is anybody going to take a look at
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this shit or no? No big deal. We don't want to,
755
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you know, is it a point where we've... We've went
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far enough, is that how the prosecution feels? And we're
757
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no longer going to push the envelope? We'll give them
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a little red meat and that's where it'll stop? Well,
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I don't know about you folks, but that's just an
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appetizer for me. I'm hungry. The stylist said he often
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spoke with Sarah Kellen and Leslie Groff, two of Epstein's
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assistants who have been accused of recruiting girls for his
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sexual massages, but never saw anything that aroused his suspicions.
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An attorney for Groff said she never engaged in any
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misconduct during her employment with Epstein. Oh, yeah, you know,
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that's believable.
767
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How about this, Ms. Groff?
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Under oath, let's hear the same statements. Let's see the
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same vim and vigor. Any girls that I saw that
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were there, I always found them very educated, very smart,
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very articulate, he told the Daily Beast. When I was
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there for the hour, hour and a half, he was
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a gentleman. Look, again, face for the world, and then
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a face in private. And some of those faces in
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private are the faces of legit demons. And that's what
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Jeffrey Epstein certainly was, folks. As close to an evil
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entity as you possibly can get. A Fakai brand spokesperson
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said the company completed an exhaustive review of its records
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and found no receipts for house calls to Epstein's residences. Oh,
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that's likely. So all these employees are lying. For what?
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What do they have to gain to be lying about this?
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Flip that around, what does Fakai have to gain about lying?
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A whole bunch, doesn't he? If a stylist did make
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a house call to one of his homes, he or
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she did not do so as an employee of the company,
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the spokesperson said. Plausible deniability. This case is riddled with it.
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And all of these people think they're going to get
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away with it, with their little canned statements and their
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cute words.
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That ship has sailed, folks.
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Nobody wants to hear that shit. We want something of substance.
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You're going to have to really make a comment with
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some substance. Really what you need to do is speak
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to the FBI. What the stylists did not know was
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the extent of their company's financial relationship with Les Wexner,
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Epstein's only known client. And there is another rub, right?
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What do you think? Epstein was paying for these haircuts?
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Yeah, right.
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Once good old Crypt Keeper Les Wexner said, pump some
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cash in, that means Epstein also has his hooks in.
801
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So the freebies start rolling in for Epstein. He was
802
00:49:46.739 --> 00:49:50.179
definitely one of those guys, right? Money bursting out of
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his pockets, but never wanting to put his fingers in
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his pocket to pull a dollar bill out. Dude had
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short arms, but deep pockets. Wexner is, was, the CEO
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of L Brands, which owns brands like Victoria's Secret and
807
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Bath & Body Works, and had an agreement to run
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upmarket stores under the CEO Bigelow name. He first hired
809
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Epstein as his personal financial advisor, but eventually handed over
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an uncommon amount of money and power to the relatively
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unknown Money Man. And, sounds familiar, right? Who else did that? Mr.
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Leon Black? So why would two of the most powerful
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people in the world Financially speaking, Les Wexner and Leon
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Black had the keys to the castle to Jeffrey Epstein.
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With Leon Black, well, I suspect it had to do
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with Leon Black's own sexual problems. With Les Wexner, well,
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that story is still untold. Among other things, Wexner gave
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Epstein full power of attorney and reportedly donated more than
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$ 10 million to Epstein's charity, through his personal foundation. That
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money needs to be looked at. That money went through
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those offshore companies and there is so much more to
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uncover in the financial realm of this story.
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I really wish some.
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Of these outlets would go hard. Where's the Wall Street
825
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Journal when you need them? Several of Epstein's accusers have
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claimed the financier, pedophile, posed as a Victoria's Secret talent
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scout in order to lure them into hotel rooms and
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assault them. Wexner claims he had no personal knowledge of
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Epstein's impropriety and cut ties with him in 2007 when
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the allegations against him emerged. Such BS. Such absolute BS.
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And Les Wexner has nowhere near answered these questions in
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a manner that is fitting the charges. And he's been,
833
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they've just let him get away with it. Nobody's putting
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him up against the ropes. Nobody's going hard, there's no
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reporters camped out in front of his house looking for answers.
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It's almost like they don't care. Almost like they want
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to ignore the Les Wexner aspect of this story. That
838
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makes me wonder why. Fakai first entered Wexner's orbit in 2004,
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when Bath & Body Works and C.O. Bigelow began selling
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00:52:25.929 --> 00:52:28.969
his line of home hair care products, which had until
841
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then been sold only in high-end retailers... like Neiman Marcus.
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One former Fakai executive told the Daily Beast that she
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advised against the deal, thinking it would diminish the brand's status,
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but that Fakai was set on it. It wouldn't have
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happened if Frederick wasn't behind it, and of that, I'm certain,
846
00:52:47.739 --> 00:52:52.579
the executive said. So, I'm guessing that Epstein facilitated this, folks.
847
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I don't have any evidence of that, but Occam's razor
848
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and all, right? My guess is Epstein... set up this arrangement,
849
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facilitated it, middle-manned it, and ended up with a pretty
850
00:53:03.010 --> 00:53:08.440
penny out of it. The following year, private equity company
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Catterton Partners issued a celebratory press release announcing it had
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taken a majority stake in Frederick Fakai Incorporated. What the
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00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.179
press release did not mention was that Catterton was backed
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in part by L Brands. In fact, both the L
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00:53:24.340 --> 00:53:28.349
Brands executive and a former Fakai executive said Wexner had
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considered buying the hair product company outright. Oh, yeah, you know,
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out of all the companies, huh? This is the one.
858
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You didn't want to buy Vidal Sassoon or Paul Mitchell
859
00:53:40.809 --> 00:53:45.159
or insert product here. It was just Frederick Fakai's brand, huh? Okay,
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just a coincidence. L Brands did not have a direct investment,
861
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but did participate in a private equity fund, which had
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stakes in a number of companies, including a controlling interest
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in Fakai. a spokesperson for Fakai Brands told the Daily Beast.
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L Brands never wound up buying Fakai's company. Instead, the
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company was purchased in 2005 by Procter & Gamble for
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a reported $ 440 million. The company, known for producing drugstore
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standbys like Pantene and Herbal Essence, tried and failed to
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introduce Fakai's product line to a mass market audience, dropping
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its price point as well as its prestige. Look, man,
870
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I never understand these kinds of moves. When you have
871
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store brands like Herbal Essence and Pantene, their parent company
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dives in and tries to buy a luxury product. Why
873
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not just stick with the niche market that you've worked
874
00:54:45.449 --> 00:54:48.489
with for so long and you've excelled in? You don't
875
00:54:48.530 --> 00:54:54.929
see Hyundai trying to buy a Bentley or a Rolls-Royce division,
876
00:54:54.969 --> 00:54:56.699
do you? No, they do what they know how to do.
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P & G eventually sold the company to designer perfumes
878
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and luxe brands at an estimated $ 390 million loss. Yikes.
879
00:55:08.750 --> 00:55:13.670
Talk about a bad business decision. A lawsuit filed by
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Fakai employees this year claimed the luxe brands had mismanaged
881
00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:21.219
the company and degraded the brand, turning its flagship location
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into a mall salon that does not offer the same
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luxurious environment that the clients had grown accustomed to. So
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Fakai made his dough, took a cash grab, dipped out,
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and according to employees, the place went from a unique,
886
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top-of-the-line salon to your typical, you know, Walmart mall-style hairstylist joint.
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Fakai's three changes of ownership in 10 years and two
888
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changes of ownership in only three years, among other things,
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have made it difficult for plaintiffs to feel comfortable having
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a long-term future at Fakai. the plaintiffs wrote, the lawsuit
891
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was settled out of court. I don't know too much
892
00:56:02.530 --> 00:56:04.750
about that, so I won't even try and dig deeper there.
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Last winter, Fakai bought his company back from designer perfumes
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and luxe brands for an undisclosed sum, something he had
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reportedly been hoping to do for some time.
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In an interview with Women's.
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00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:21.260
Wear Daily, Fakai said he was eager to be in
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the driver's seat and expand his brand internationally and online.
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The brand needs a leader, he said. Someone who knows
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what they're doing. Who the team can respect. Well, you
901
00:56:32.190 --> 00:56:35.230
could start gaining that respect by speaking to the FBI
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00:56:35.269 --> 00:56:38.880
about Jeffrey Epstein. You know, that's one way to do it.
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You know, I wonder if the FBI has even tried
904
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to have a sit down with this guy yet. Those
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are all the things that could be happening behind the
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scenes that we don't know anything about. Or, none of
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it could be happening. As the trial gets closer, and
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we move into a different phase of this investigation and
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this case, hopefully that will start to provide some more clarity.
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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can
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