Episode #84 Featuring James Barry Founder of PLUCK!

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welcome back to the Dylan Jamelli podcast on set, which
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we've been doing a lot more lately, which is amazing.
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And I'm super thankful when people fly in, but especially today,
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I had the pleasure of meeting my guest. JJ Virgin
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brought him up to me on her podcast and said,
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you have got to talk to this guy. And I
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am so thankful. When I get connections like this, my
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guest is like a one of a kind guy. I'm
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going to really try to give him the intro he deserves.
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I can't do him justice, but just briefly, quickly, so
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I can drain him for energy because he does some really,
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interesting and intriguing things that you guys are going to
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absolutely love. So he's a professional chef, 20 years experience.
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He's published a cookbook, and he's the host of the
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Everyday Ancestral podcast.
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Make sure you check that out. It's amazing.
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He's the founder of Pluck, and I'm sure many of
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you have heard of it, but if you haven't, you're
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going to learn a great deal today. And he's the,
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which is the world's first organ-based seasoning, And it makes
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eating nose to tail simple and delicious. And I can
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confirm this a million percent. And he's cooked for celebrities,
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Tom Cruise, George Clooney. But he's really turned his focus,
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which I love, to nutrient density and ancestral health. And
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so what that does is it helps bridge the gap
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between taste and nourishment. And quite simply, his mission is
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is to normalize organ meats as everyday superfoods and make
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real whole food accessible to everyone. And you guys know
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that's my belief too. So we see eye to eye.
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So my friends, and thank you for coming all the
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way to see me, James Berry.
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It's such a pleasure. I mean, getting like we connected
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over the phone, beautiful connection. Now we finally get to
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meet in person.
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So it's truly, truly awesome. We could have done this virtually.
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We did before, but this is way better and it's
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way more meaningful and impactful. And it just, look, it
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means a lot to me personally when people do that,
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because it says, wow.
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You know, we believe in what you're doing.
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We're invested in what you're doing and we want to
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grow with you and I'm thankful, man.
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So I appreciate it. It's, it's so mutual. I mean,
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I know we were just talking about it before the
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cameras rolled, but like your journey while challenging, right?
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Yeah.
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You probably don't want to repeat it, but it's created
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such beauty and bounty and most importantly value. And I
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think about that all the time. Why am I on
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this planet and what value am I bringing? Because I just,
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I just feel like particularly in this today and age
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with the, there's so many talking heads. There's so much
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just noise that I'm looking for authenticity, integrity, accountability. And,
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and true value, like just, just, just transparent value. Yeah.
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You know, and I believe that's absolutely what you represent
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as well.
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When you become God first, you find that, that, and you,
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and you live that way, like you're talking, the people
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that you meet, they just kind of fall into your lap.
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Yeah, absolutely. I, when I, uh, so I moved to
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Boston just a couple of years ago, as you know,
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and I drove from the West coast all the way
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to the East coast. And man, like if anyone out
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there doesn't think there's, there's, there's problems like, and I
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don't mean like people are the problem. I'm saying like,
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we only know what we know. Right. So you can't,
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you can't ding someone for not knowing. Yeah. It's just,
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we only know what we know, what we're exposed to,
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what experiences we have, what contrast. Right.
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Right.
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But I saw things like I, I would go into
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some towns and there would be nothing open except fast food.
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Yeah.
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When I got there. And then, you know, Or I'd
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go into some grocery stores and then it's just, it's
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just all like hostess products and no fresh food. And
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you're just like, well, of course people are looking sick.
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Of course people are addicted to these foods. Of course
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they're not comfortable in their bodies. It's like, what do
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we expect? So there's a problem. And so I, I,
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I really, anyone out there that's like, oh, it tries
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to kind of push that under the rug. I'm just like, dude,
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you're not helping anyone. No. We got to be honest
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with ourselves. Like the system is broken.
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Mm-hmm. there's a harsh reality out there that a lot
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of us never see, you know, and, and I don't,
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you know, my story, I don't take anything for granted
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because I have been at the lowest of the low.
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So I get it, but some people haven't. And even
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after that, you still have your days where you forget.
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I remember quickly, but, um, it's important that the message
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is conveyed and I appreciate you, you bringing it up
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and making it clear to people.
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This is not a lecture. It's not coming down to people.
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It's an awareness call to just, you know, ease up
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a little bit and understand there's, there's some messed up
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things out there.
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And, you know, absolutely. I mean, like, I think even
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back to kind of the linchpin for me of what
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moves me towards rethinking health. So I was just out
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of college. I was an actor then. And so I had,
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I had booked this, it's called the Williamstown theater festival
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in Massachusetts. It was pretty well-known theater festival. And, I
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flew from California to Massachusetts. Didn't know anyone. And I
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was there a week and I started experiencing this extreme
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pain and I didn't know what was going on. I
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thought it would, maybe it was an appendicitis. Right. But
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I was crumpled in the corner and my roommate slash
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new friend was like, dude, I think something's wrong. Like
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you've been here an hour. Like you need to go
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to the hospital. And I was like, I was so scared.
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I was like, I don't, I, okay. I just, I
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think I was in so much pain at that point.
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I was like, yeah, just I'll do whatever you tell me. Right.
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We get there. They still don't know what it is,
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but they give me, uh, they, they give me, um,
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you know, something for the pain. And it turned out
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I had a kidney stone.
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Ah.
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And so I pass it. And luckily after I passed it,
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the first person I saw the doctor, I said, so what,
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how do I make sure I never have the skin?
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Cause that was the most pain I've ever felt. And
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he was like, he said something really important to my journey.
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He said, well, what have you been eating and drinking?
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Had he not said those simple words, I would not
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have connected that the food I eat affects my health.
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And I was in my early twenties, but how many
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people do you know that are in their thirties, forties, fifties,
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they still don't get that what you eat affects your health. Yeah.
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It seems so simple, but it's like, it's this, people
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still don't connect that.
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You know, I give the same spiel over and over,
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but I'm going to give it to you. When I
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look and I structure things for people, especially like the
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bodybuilders I used to train, I would, I would explain
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to them, look, we take your diet, we take your training,
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and then we take your supplements. And for them, it
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was steroids, but your supplements are your extras, right? To
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get you over the hump. And I said, look, 75
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to 80% of this is diet.
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It is.
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Of course, you got to work out hard. Of course,
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you got to train hard for the physique. But you
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cannot outwork a dog shit diet. You just can't do it.
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You can have a very strong diet and not work
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out a ton, which I do not recommend, by the way.
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But I'm saying you could still be in pretty good,
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you know, decent condition.
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Of course, you want to work out. It's important.
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But if you work out a lot and you eat
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like crap internally, you're done. Your blood panel is going
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to show it. Right.
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It's the diets, everything. It really is the supplements and
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all that's like three to 5%.
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It is, it'll just get you over the hump and
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it'll supplement extra things that you need.
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You know, and everything like that. But diet, diet, diet, diet, diet. Well,
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I know like, I mean, I know you talk about
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this a lot, like peptides, right? Yeah. Like peptides are
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pretty amazing. They're, they're revolutionary. They're potentially the future of health,
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but everyone I talk to, and I, and I have
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to imagine you're on the same page. you're basically saying
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this too, is it almost doesn't matter what new fangled
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biohack we have because there's still the necessity to hit
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the foundations, sleep, nutritious food, movement, stress level checks, right?
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So those four pillars are, never change and to me
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that's the ancestral part yeah like we cannot take the
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ancestral out of the modern tech or the biohack. You
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can't remove them. They're not separate.
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Dude, I can give you every fancy technology, every peptide,
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every supplement, every steroid. I don't care what it is.
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But if you are not taking care of what you
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need to take care of, like what you just said,
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none of it's going to work. If you're not hormonally optimized,
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if you're not mentally optimized, see, I'm doing a lot
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of mind to body connection because it requires both. And
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if you don't have both, if you're off in your
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mind or if you're off internally, you will never be right.
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And it takes a large group of things, but there
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are here.
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Components to that.
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And that's like, with what you do and what we're
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going to get into is the diet part makes such
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a big difference because I would, I would argue that
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stress and diet will have the most positive or negative effect, right?
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Because if you have those two things going on and
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that's where I'm talking about, like the neural side and
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then the physical side, you think about it and think
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about what those do and the harm they cause. See,
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I spent so much time focusing on the nutrition side
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and the, and the, and the, the weightlifting side, but
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forgot about the neuro side and how much it goes together.
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But man, we need specialists in both. And then somebody
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like me, it'll say, Hey, put it together and bring
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us all together to do it.
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But that's what you do. And that's what I love
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about what you do.
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Because you do something so unique that nobody's ever done
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or looked at. But I think that we should first,
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let's explain what it is you have, but then let
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us discuss like organ meats and benefits of animal fats and,
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you know, these stigmas that have been put on them
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and these misleading information over the years, because you, you know,
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kind of where I'm coming from and I want your
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side of it.
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For my money, those foundations that we just identified are
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really key. And, and I think that we're, we're trapped
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in kind of a modern phenomena where we're really the
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only species in the world that looks to someone else
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to tell us what to eat.
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Right.
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And that's kind of humbling right away. Yeah. But if
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you think about it, there's over 9 million species on
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this planet. So clearly we did know. We're not so
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unique that it's like, oh, we're the only. It's like, no, no,
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we did know.
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Yeah.
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But we're just in a state, this modern life, these frankenfoods,
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this whatever marketing machine we're trapped in. lobbyists, all that
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stuff is just confusing us. And so what I recognize
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is in my 20 plus years of working with celebrities
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and working with food and supporting people to eat real
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food is I was noticing that they were doing what
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they thought was all the right stuff. Organic, whatever was
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the trend. They all thought they were doing the right stuff.
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And then they still were nutrient deficient or there were
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still health issues or they were still struggling. And I
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was like, what is going on? Like, this is not good.
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broken and the topsoil and the food coming out every
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decade is less nutrient dense. So you're learning all these
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things of like, oh yeah. And then the stressors of
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life are also hurting us because you can't absorb as
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much when you're stressed out. And there's so many different factors, right?
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And so I was like, okay, this needs to like,
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let's just bottom line this. Like what is the most
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nutrient dense food? Not what we think is the most
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nutrient dense food, but what really is. Yeah. And so
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I just started doing the research. I'm like, okay, organ
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meats popping up every single time. Liver is always at
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the top.
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And you're even above beef, even above salmon, even you
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name it. It's just, it's, it, it's always like, they'll
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have like every mineral and vitamin they're checking. Liver is
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the only one that checks off every single box. The
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other ones might have some of something, but none of
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something else, but liver checks every box. You're like, okay,
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That's interesting. But then we have these hurdles like people,
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whether they've had them or not, they think they're gross.
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They're icked out, which I get. I get if you're
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not familiar with something or I think even organs kind
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of make you think of your own mortality a little bit. Right.
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So it's just there's just this vibe that it's like, yeah.
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Rather not, right? So there you have that. And then
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you have that because they're not plentiful, because they're not
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always on the dinner table, we just have lost the
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culinary knowledge of like how to cook them. Because here's,
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I'll just give people value right now around liver. It's
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at its most flavorful when it's raw. Really? It is
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the best when it's raw. It gets stronger the longer
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and the more you cook it. So- Right there, that
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tells you that most people that are grossed out by
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it because they were forced to eat liver and onions,
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it's because it was overcooked. It's a texture and a flavor.
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And it gets stronger and chalkier and just kind of
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gross-er the longer it cooks. So if you want to
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sample it, first try it raw. And then when you
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go to cook it, cook it when it's still pink.
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You don't wait for it to be gray. Because we
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have to remember when you cook something, there's residual heat.
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So you don't want to cook it all the way.
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And this goes for anything, muscle meat, anything. You don't
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want to ever cook it all the way in the pan.
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Because the minute you pull the pan off the stove,
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it's still cooking. Even when you put it on your plate,
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it's still cooking. So you always want to pull back
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a little bit. Um, you'll just, you'll like the food better.
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It will be more juicy. It's just way better.
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And here's another tip is a lot of people always
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just throw salt all over the muscle, the meat, you know,
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like the steak. But what does salt do to meat? It,
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it pulls out the moisture. Right. So really what you
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want to do is you want to put the salt
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on the fat and not put it on the muscle
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meat and you'll have juicier steaks and even better. is
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you take the steak, you put the salt, just, just
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use a little salt on the fat and then you
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compound some butter. So, and I like to use pluck
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in it.
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So I put pluck in the butter and then you
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put a slab of butter on it after it's been
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cooked and let that butter with the pluck just melt
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right over the steak. It's, it's the best steak you'll
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ever have, man. The best.
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Dude.
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But so, so going back to it. So I recognize
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organ meats were the most nutrient dense. So I was like, okay,
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how do I solve this? Because the reality is I'm
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a father now. And that's really what upped the, Annie
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for me is like, when I became a father, it
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was like, okay, no more games. Like it's about my
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kids now. And that's bigger than me. And it's like,
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I'm not messing around. Like, how do I get these
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nutrients into them? But I don't want to fight. Right.
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I'm at the end. We all, I mean, come on.
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Anyone that's apparently just in general, we all like life
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is hard enough. Like, I don't want to fight in
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the kitchen. I don't want to make something and then
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have someone say, well, I'm not eating that. It's like,
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you're eating it. You're eating it and you're eating it
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right now. No, but, uh, but I didn't want to fight.
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And so I was like, how do I, how do
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I solve this? And I just, I've always been as
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a chef. I've never been like, um, I'm not into watching, uh,
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chef culture. Like I like studying cookbooks. And I like
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learning about how people do things, but I'm not into
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the whole like celebrity chef thing. I don't find that interesting.
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And I'm not interested in just doing things the way
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that they've historically been done. I'm interested in how do
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I do it where you'll eat it, where it's flavorful,
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but not sacrificing health. Right. That's always how I've been
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kind of slanted. And so that's how I looked at
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the problem. And I was like, okay, wait, we already
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have freeze-dried powdered organ meats because they're showing up in capsules.
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And we already have dried herbs, onion, garlic. And when
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you make a pate, that is what you're doing. You're
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combining the organs with these other flavors to offset the taste.
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So I was like, why don't I make a dry pate?
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And that's so that it just kind of steamrolled from there.
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And then I tried it and I was like, oh,
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wait a second. If I take the organ meats and
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so pluck is essentially what it became, but I start
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out just doing liver, but then it became liver. Heart, kidney, spleen,
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and pancreas, freeze-dried and powdered, 100% grass-fed, all the qualities,
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so now you don't have to worry about sourcing. And
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I combine it with salt, organic spices and herbs, and
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now that flavor, because it does bring a lot of flavor,
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but then also that microdosing of that health is as
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easy as just salt in your food. Yeah. And suddenly
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it's like there's no fight. There's no kind of like,
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I don't know how to cook this. I'm, you know,
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there's no unfamiliarity. It's like we all season our food.
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So there could be any, anything going on in the
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world out there. Emotionally, you could be going through heartbreak,
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but you're still going to season your food. Yeah. You know,
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so there's no new habit. There's no hurdle there. But
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here's the piece that I've only recently learned that I'm
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just like, this is why I'm in it.
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So.
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We're talking about, you know, you're talking about your journey.
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I'm talking about mine. And these journeys are really important
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to who we are now and the value we try
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to bring. Right. Right. But how do you pass on
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that with, say, if you have kids, you're not going
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to pass it on by the supplements you take in
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the corner of your kitchen all alone, just popping your pills,
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drink your, and then move on. We pass these on
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by talking about them. Right. Why are we doing this?
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How is it affecting our body? Right. It's got to
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be a discussion. That's how you pass. Your kids are
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not only looking at what you do, but they're also
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looking at how you talk. They're looking at the connection,
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the interaction you have with them. That's what's truly moving
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their needle. And that's what's helping them develop, right? Well,
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the power of pluck is because really, how are people
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eating organs right now? They're either eating them every once
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in a while because they're a hunter or something like that.
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They're eating maybe like once a month, maybe only three
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times a year, you know, right? Or not at all.
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Or they're taking a capsule. So when you're taking a capsule,
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it's usually isolated event. Right. But pluck brings it to
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the kitchen. table to the dinner table now it's like
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hey little johnny put it on your plate oh that's
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so good papa yeah you know it's like that's really
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good what is that oh well that's that's something that's
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giving you like these vitamins and it's this ancestral thing
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it's how our this body we're in you know and
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suddenly it's We're not talking about it. And now the
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kids will carry it with them. Yeah. And that's what
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we need. That's how we create change, I believe. Oh, yeah.
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It's got to be passed down.
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Making it accessible and making it like something that's desirable.
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You know, because you're right. I've always been that way
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with a lot of the foods that I can't live
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without now. I spent decades not eating them because I
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thought I didn't like them. Didn't even try them. You
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know how long it took me to start eating avocados
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and now I cannot go a day without them. And
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I battled with my wife about it and I battled
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with the salmon and all these things that are now
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my favorite foods.
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I wouldn't touch.
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Now, some of that was fear of fat, you know,
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but even peanut butter, like I wouldn't touch it for,
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I don't know, 25, 26 years unless it had jelly.
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And now. There's just spoons flying around of it everywhere.
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You know what I mean? So you're right.
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So for you to overcome something, cause you're, you know,
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I too, and the older I've gotten now, and I,
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I always eat ancestral beef blends. So like I do
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force in nature cause they have that really nice, um,
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they do a great job.
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Yeah.
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With the liver and the heart, they add into their,
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their elk and their beef and their, their venison.
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So you can get it all right. And the bison.
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So that's it. And it tastes better actually.
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But for you to do it that way, because it is, yeah,
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it doesn't sound great, you know, to say I want
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to eat liver or heart or, and then you talk
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about eating raw liver and I'm like, oh shit.
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You know? Well, and it's in ground meat. So you're
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only getting that when you're eating the ground meat.
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If you have a steak, you're not getting that.
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No, no.
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But here's something that's, I'm so glad you brought up
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Force Nation because that's a great product. They're a great brand.
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This is a, what I'm about to say is no
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judgment around them because I love them and I use them. Yeah.
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But it's more about people's perceptions of what they're getting.
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So one of the questions we get asked all the time,
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and I'm sure even people listening to this right now
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are like, well, but how much organ meat am I
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really getting? Exactly.
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Right?
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Yeah. So I'm always like, okay, well, let's ask a
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couple of questions. So first one, how much are you
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getting right now? Well, I don't need organ meat. Okay.
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So right there, just by using this, you're now getting
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something you weren't. That's important.
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Very.
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And then I'm like, when you take a raw organ,
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100% organ, and you freeze dry it, it goes down
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about 21%. So that water weight loss is significant. Yeah.
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And then you're now powdering that. So it's even more
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concentrated now, right? So we're putting currently 17% organ meat
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in and people are like, well, that doesn't seem like
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a lot. Well, guess how much organ meat is in
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that ancestral blend? Four. Yeah. It's three or four. It's
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like four to seven, depending on which one.
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Not a lot.
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It's not a lot. Uh-uh. And it's because you don't
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need a lot. Right. Like I always talk about people
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like imagine if, okay, you're a hunter back in the day.
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Cause we, what, what's really important about when we talk
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about ancestral eating is we have to remember like this
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body is homo sapien, right? This is like a 300,000
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plus year old body. Right. Right. Biologically. Yeah. So that
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means the communication pathways are also developed that timeframe. The
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food we're currently eating is what? 7,500 years. Maybe not
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even that. Probably not. Right? The way it is now,
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00:23:11.569 --> 00:23:18.380
who knows? Who knows? But it's like 300,000 years to 75, whatever, right?
478
00:23:18.730 --> 00:23:21.259
So it's like they don't even compare. It's like a
479
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speck compared to grounding life force, right? And so the
480
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way I always look at it is like, hey, first
481
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:33.890
of all, this body wasn't developed to be swallowing these nutrients.
482
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No.
483
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.049
There, we, we lose a communication pathway when we swallow things.
484
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And I always use salt as an example. Let's first
485
00:23:40.950 --> 00:23:42.750
say this. If I put it, give you a salt tablet,
486
00:23:42.769 --> 00:23:46.630
you swallow it. You have no communication. There's no reaction.
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00:23:46.630 --> 00:23:48.849
30 minutes later, you're like, wait, why do I feel
488
00:23:48.890 --> 00:23:50.710
so bloated? Oh yeah, that's right. I took a salt.
489
00:23:50.910 --> 00:23:53.410
I probably got too much. Right. So it's a delayed response.
490
00:23:53.849 --> 00:23:56.599
But if I put salt on your tongue, there's immediate,
491
00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.279
immediate communication. And most, most people will say like, oh,
492
00:23:59.299 --> 00:24:01.539
it tastes really good. Right. Yeah. How's it taste the
493
00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:01.940
second time?
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Yeah.
495
00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:02.839
Okay.
496
00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:03.000
Okay.
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00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.200
Third time, oh, no, no. Fourth time, no, no. It
498
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:10.559
literally doesn't taste the same. Like your body's rejecting it, right?
499
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:15.759
That's called the neurolingual response. That is an absolute communication pattern.
500
00:24:15.779 --> 00:24:18.019
We get that in so many different ways. Like if
501
00:24:18.059 --> 00:24:21.079
you're trying to lift something that's heavy, there's a communication
502
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:22.980
that happens. What happens to your grip if it's too
503
00:24:23.019 --> 00:24:27.380
heavy for your body? Loosening your grip. That's your body communicating,
504
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.240
I can't lift this. It's protecting itself. Same thing happens
505
00:24:31.289 --> 00:24:34.910
with our tastes, really. And back in the day, what
506
00:24:34.950 --> 00:24:37.150
was the communication that was happening? It was really two
507
00:24:37.299 --> 00:24:40.079
main things. And they were very intense. One was, is
508
00:24:40.099 --> 00:24:41.720
this food going to nourish me or is it going
509
00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:44.420
to kill me? And they didn't have labels, obviously. So
510
00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:46.400
like it really was life or death. Like you eat
511
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:49.579
the wrong mushroom, you're dead. Right. You know, you eat the,
512
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.920
you're foraging, you grab the wrong thing because you don't
513
00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.519
know you're dead. right? Or you're severely sick, whatever, right?
514
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.009
Something's going to happen. So it was that communication pathway
515
00:25:00.470 --> 00:25:03.309
is crucial to getting us to where we are now.
516
00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:06.710
And most of us are disregarding that we're just bypassing
517
00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:09.930
and just, just not even thinking about the fact that
518
00:25:10.410 --> 00:25:15.390
eating mindfully, eating slow enough, eating your food, chewing it.
519
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:21.079
Like these are really crucial communication pathways to getting closer
520
00:25:21.099 --> 00:25:24.200
to to what we identified earlier is that we're looking
521
00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:27.640
to other people. We're outsourcing our nutrition, our health. The
522
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.380
only way to get back to what we probably innately
523
00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:32.900
already know is you got to eat your food. Yeah.
524
00:25:33.059 --> 00:25:35.819
And so that's why I'm trying to bring it back. Yes,
525
00:25:35.859 --> 00:25:37.319
you can take it as capsules. And if you are,
526
00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:41.000
and it's working great, keep it up. Cause I'm, I'm my, my,
527
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.480
my kind of pinnacle is eat organ meats. I believe
528
00:25:43.619 --> 00:25:45.539
it's not just organ meats. It's nose to tail, like
529
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.819
eat the whole animal. Right. And it's not just liver.
530
00:25:48.900 --> 00:25:51.140
Just eat, eat as much of the animals you can.
531
00:25:52.349 --> 00:25:54.809
if you're already doing that, you are ahead of everybody.
532
00:25:55.589 --> 00:25:58.150
If you're doing it in capsules and it's working for you, great.
533
00:25:58.529 --> 00:26:01.410
But if it's not working for you and you're recognizing
534
00:26:01.430 --> 00:26:02.960
that maybe you feel nauseous when you do it, or
535
00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:05.180
you're just, it's not consistent. Like, then I'm like, dude,
536
00:26:05.299 --> 00:26:08.980
just do pluck, like get it in your diet because it,
537
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.980
it is the miracle. It's a miracle. It's a miraculous food.
538
00:26:14.099 --> 00:26:18.440
Like things just disappear. Like you have issues, skin issues,
539
00:26:18.549 --> 00:26:23.559
sleep issues, uh, For infertility issues, they just start to, like, resolve.
540
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:25.079
It's everything.
541
00:26:25.099 --> 00:26:28.319
And ideally, you would use pluck with the meat and
542
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:30.539
do it together, and then you could really maximize what
543
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.180
you were taking in, which is what I've been able
544
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.269
to do since I met you, because I didn't even
545
00:26:34.289 --> 00:26:36.329
know what it was until I got introduced to it.
546
00:26:36.410 --> 00:26:41.289
And, you know, I spent so long not even eating
547
00:26:41.349 --> 00:26:42.650
these foods that....
548
00:26:44.069 --> 00:26:47.430
Being a nutritionist and understanding what we're talking about, yet
549
00:26:47.710 --> 00:26:50.109
having the fear in my head of eating them because
550
00:26:50.150 --> 00:26:51.269
of the low fat.
551
00:26:52.009 --> 00:26:55.130
And I've talked to you about this before, but. On cholesterol, right?
552
00:26:55.150 --> 00:26:57.450
Because they have cholesterol too. Well, and that wasn't even
553
00:26:57.490 --> 00:26:58.039
my fear.
554
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.420
It was the, because of like having an eating disorder,
555
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.359
it was the fear of getting fat from eating fat.
556
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.779
And that's just like you said, these correlations of words.
557
00:27:06.500 --> 00:27:09.309
And even though I'm a 15 year educated nutritionist and
558
00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:12.740
I put people on fat diets. I had myself convinced
559
00:27:12.779 --> 00:27:15.769
that I couldn't do it. And then when I finally did,
560
00:27:16.690 --> 00:27:19.529
my whole world has changed. Like what you're talking about.
561
00:27:20.470 --> 00:27:24.259
So much more ability to focus skin. Like, My mom
562
00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:26.119
was just here and she said to me, what.
563
00:27:26.019 --> 00:27:27.569
Did you do? Like, what did you go and do
564
00:27:27.619 --> 00:27:28.769
and have done? And I was like, what are you
565
00:27:28.789 --> 00:27:31.329
talking about? Yeah, your skin is radiant. Thank you. It
566
00:27:31.369 --> 00:27:33.829
looks really clean and clear. I would, I mean, yeah,
567
00:27:33.849 --> 00:27:36.430
I use some good skincare and things that I'm, you know,
568
00:27:36.450 --> 00:27:39.430
thankful that I'm able to have, but it's been the diet. Yeah,
569
00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:41.269
it's inside out too.
570
00:27:41.410 --> 00:27:44.259
It's the, I mean, I have animal fats and protein,
571
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.920
not only every day in meats and stuff like that,
572
00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.839
but even my protein powders that I customize, they're all
573
00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:53.380
pretty much, I have a little bit away, but they're generally,
574
00:27:54.349 --> 00:27:57.029
like beef protein isolate, beef collagen.
575
00:27:57.250 --> 00:27:59.170
It's all around animal fats.
576
00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:03.190
And dude, I do half a pound to 12 ounces
577
00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:06.799
of like good lean ground pork or ground meat every day.
578
00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:11.680
And then having pluck as an addition, which I now use.
579
00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:16.319
So when we use pluck, just what is the extra
580
00:28:16.339 --> 00:28:20.690
that we're getting? Like get into what that's actually gonna
581
00:28:20.750 --> 00:28:25.809
do health-wise, And how much extra nutrition that we're actually
582
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.269
taking in with that? Because, you know, you think of
583
00:28:28.329 --> 00:28:30.509
a seasoning, you don't really think of getting much from
584
00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:31.329
it other than flavor.
585
00:28:32.009 --> 00:28:35.049
Well, and really that is what seasonings have been. Yeah.
586
00:28:35.089 --> 00:28:37.869
We're redefining what seasonings can be. We're making it a
587
00:28:37.950 --> 00:28:42.400
functional seasoning. Most seasonings, what's the first ingredient? Salt. Salt. Yeah.
588
00:28:42.579 --> 00:28:44.900
So really, if you think about salt, it's very cheap.
589
00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:48.920
So what they're selling you is salt with some seasonings.
590
00:28:49.789 --> 00:28:51.950
Our first ingredient is onion. Our second ingredient is all
591
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.940
is organ meat. And I think salt, depending on the
592
00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.779
skew is third or fourth. So what we're selling you
593
00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:02.480
is flavor with some salt. It's a very different profile. And,
594
00:29:02.740 --> 00:29:07.750
and really with you think about it. So Dr. Bill Schindler,
595
00:29:07.789 --> 00:29:10.490
he wrote a book called eat like a human. He's a,
596
00:29:10.630 --> 00:29:14.390
he's an archeologist. He's specifically now focuses on food archeology,
597
00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:19.309
but he talks about how back in the, the day,
598
00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:21.349
you know, this is before we had fire. So we
599
00:29:21.390 --> 00:29:24.390
were foragers originally. And so when you were foraging, you were,
600
00:29:24.809 --> 00:29:27.829
you were trying to basically forge all day to get
601
00:29:27.890 --> 00:29:30.369
enough nutrients to sustain your body. But we had smaller
602
00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:34.170
brains in and we had bigger digestive process, so we
603
00:29:34.190 --> 00:29:35.549
could digest that stuff easier.
604
00:29:35.589 --> 00:29:35.730
Right.
605
00:29:36.829 --> 00:29:39.759
Then we became scavengers. So we weren't predators yet, but.
606
00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:42.119
we came to the animal that was dead. We did
607
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.759
get some meat. Still, the body didn't change much. And
608
00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:46.740
that's really important because I think people are all about
609
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.259
muscle meat right now. And I'm like, but historically or ancestrally,
610
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.900
we didn't change much when we got the muscle meat.
611
00:29:54.069 --> 00:29:56.410
It was when we got, when we became a predator,
612
00:29:56.450 --> 00:29:58.980
we got three things that we historically had not gotten.
613
00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:03.579
And one was blood. Organs and fat. And that was like,
614
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.579
I equate that to like, when you go to like
615
00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:08.400
a convenience store, seven 11, they always have those bottles
616
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.069
of like emergency or whatever. And they're like, just shoot
617
00:30:11.109 --> 00:30:12.730
this and you feel super about like, that's what I
618
00:30:12.750 --> 00:30:15.089
equate it to is like, it's like our bodies got
619
00:30:15.269 --> 00:30:19.049
this power packed nutrient dense food that it had never
620
00:30:19.130 --> 00:30:22.220
gotten before in that way. And then what happened is
621
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.589
our brains got bigger. Our guts got smaller and then
622
00:30:26.609 --> 00:30:29.289
eventually we got fire and eventually we got this homo
623
00:30:29.309 --> 00:30:32.240
sapien body, but it took that. So when I think
624
00:30:32.299 --> 00:30:37.130
about what is, what are organ meats really providing There's
625
00:30:37.230 --> 00:30:39.390
two ways we can look at this. So one is, okay,
626
00:30:39.470 --> 00:30:42.049
think about how does your body feel when you eat
627
00:30:42.089 --> 00:30:44.730
these foods? Because I think that kind of feeling it
628
00:30:44.970 --> 00:30:48.450
is really important because it's something that a lot of
629
00:30:48.490 --> 00:30:51.670
us aren't doing much is we're following what someone tells
630
00:30:51.730 --> 00:30:54.509
us to do or we're following the diet we think
631
00:30:54.549 --> 00:30:56.930
we're supposed to be eating, but we're not listening to
632
00:30:57.029 --> 00:31:01.470
probably the one entity that is the most important thing
633
00:31:01.490 --> 00:31:03.519
in your life that's not going to lie to you,
634
00:31:04.059 --> 00:31:06.109
that's going to tell you whether it's working or not.
635
00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:09.789
And that's your body. You gotta be listening to your body. Yeah.
636
00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:11.970
It's got, it's got to trump the head. I know.
637
00:31:12.569 --> 00:31:12.769
Right.
638
00:31:12.789 --> 00:31:15.160
And so that's, I want you to feel like when
639
00:31:15.180 --> 00:31:19.759
you're eating, let's say, I don't know, something Franken food, like,
640
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:24.420
like a hostess Twinkie. How does your body feel when
641
00:31:24.460 --> 00:31:27.450
you eat that? Shit. It really does. Like if we're
642
00:31:27.509 --> 00:31:30.309
really honest with ourselves, it feels like shit. And it's like,
643
00:31:30.349 --> 00:31:33.940
you can feel like the, the, The fats they're using,
644
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.660
the oil, like it just doesn't. Right. And in a sense,
645
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.549
you can almost feel the inflammation happen. You can feel
646
00:31:39.589 --> 00:31:42.269
your body kind of tensing up. Yeah. And I think
647
00:31:42.329 --> 00:31:44.990
what it's doing is these foods, when we eat certain foods,
648
00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:48.029
it's basically, it's almost like that. Is this going to
649
00:31:48.069 --> 00:31:50.150
make my body, is this going to nourish me or
650
00:31:50.170 --> 00:31:50.740
is it going to kill me?
651
00:31:50.769 --> 00:31:50.890
Right.
652
00:31:50.930 --> 00:31:53.569
It's a form of killing. It's almost like this food
653
00:31:53.630 --> 00:31:54.710
is creating danger.
654
00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:55.700
Right. Right.
655
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.079
So my body is not responding. It's rejecting whatever it is.
656
00:31:59.140 --> 00:31:59.279
Right.
657
00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:02.539
Then now think about what does your body feel like
658
00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:05.000
when you eat an egg or when you have bone
659
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.940
broth or when you have just a basic whole food.
660
00:32:09.089 --> 00:32:11.109
It feels pretty fucking good.
661
00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:11.569
Yeah.
662
00:32:11.750 --> 00:32:15.650
It feels pretty clean, right? Like you don't feel foggy headed.
663
00:32:15.690 --> 00:32:18.690
You don't feel inflamed. You just kind of feel good.
664
00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:19.230
Yep.
665
00:32:20.369 --> 00:32:21.990
That's safe. That's safety.
666
00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:24.890
I mean, I just had a thousand calorie meal and
667
00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:27.589
you hear that and you think that and you'd be like, oh, wow.
668
00:32:27.650 --> 00:32:30.130
I mean, you don't feel like light as can be
669
00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:33.309
at a million bucks. And it's all heavy fats, avocados,
670
00:32:33.349 --> 00:32:36.480
whole eggs. I mean, basically it was all of that.
671
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.980
And I mean, I feel like, wow, like the whole
672
00:32:40.019 --> 00:32:42.079
world's opened up for me, but it's all real.
673
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.380
It's all real. A hundred percent. And that's really key, right?
674
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:45.660
Yeah.
675
00:32:45.779 --> 00:32:48.680
And so when we think about, okay, what are organ
676
00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:53.250
meats bringing the table, the best, the kind of easiest way.
677
00:32:53.289 --> 00:32:54.950
And I know you could probably go into more of
678
00:32:54.970 --> 00:32:56.549
the science. I'm not a real, I don't, I'm not
679
00:32:56.569 --> 00:32:58.769
a scientist. I'm a chef, right? So, I thought you
680
00:32:58.789 --> 00:33:00.730
were being honest with that. No, no, no. This is great.
681
00:33:01.109 --> 00:33:03.710
So I try to break things down in the simplest terms.
682
00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:06.349
And I think about, okay, what is science telling us
683
00:33:06.410 --> 00:33:09.130
we need to create life? Well, they say, okay, you
684
00:33:09.170 --> 00:33:10.990
need a prenatal. And this is all the things you need.
685
00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:14.480
You need iron. You need magnesium. You need potassium. You
686
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.720
need all these things. Vitamin B, right? Everything that's in
687
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.480
a prenatal is in an organ meat. It's all there.
688
00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:21.960
Right.
689
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.819
None of it's synthetic and it's all there in its
690
00:33:25.940 --> 00:33:30.519
synergistic properties. So like back in the day, we used
691
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.400
to give iron pills and I'm talking like in the
692
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:36.460
sixties to people that were anemic. They later on learn like, oh,
693
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.420
this is doing nothing because it's, it's not paired with
694
00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:41.829
the minute, you know, the, this, the, the nutrition that
695
00:33:41.869 --> 00:33:46.109
it needs to actually absorb. Right. It literally was doing nothing.
696
00:33:46.990 --> 00:33:50.460
How many, how often has that happened in history? You know,
697
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.900
vitamin C, you're giving vitamin C, it's doing nothing. Oh,
698
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.740
because we don't have the rose hips or whatever, right?
699
00:33:54.940 --> 00:33:58.289
There's always some synergistic thing that mother nature did right.
700
00:33:58.670 --> 00:33:58.890
Right.
701
00:33:59.349 --> 00:34:02.390
That needs to be there for true health to happen.
702
00:34:03.990 --> 00:34:07.730
Organ meats, mother nature did it. I'm not messing with
703
00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:09.909
it at all. All you're doing is preserving it through
704
00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:15.010
freeze drying. Like, It's mother nature's multivitamin. And I really
705
00:34:15.050 --> 00:34:16.969
want to get that into people. It's like, we're not
706
00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:19.329
trying to trick you. We're not trying to sell you
707
00:34:19.369 --> 00:34:21.849
like snake oil or like say like we created this
708
00:34:21.929 --> 00:34:24.869
laboratory food and we think that this is what it
709
00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:27.989
does because we've isolated it in this tunnel and we've
710
00:34:28.130 --> 00:34:30.760
figured out that when you're perfectly in this state that
711
00:34:30.820 --> 00:34:33.489
this is what happens. It's like, but we've never, you know,
712
00:34:33.570 --> 00:34:35.780
that's what's always happening with science, right? It's always like,
713
00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:38.019
this is what's happening and this is what's doing your body.
714
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:39.800
But then when you bring it into the, I always
715
00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:41.800
think of it like Jurassic Park. Then when you bring
716
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:46.880
the dinosaurs into nature, they grow crazy. That's what's happening, right?
717
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.320
We live in a toxic soup. How does anyone ever
718
00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:54.239
test what things are truly happening? It's impossible. It's just dead.
719
00:34:54.260 --> 00:34:54.420
Right?
720
00:34:54.500 --> 00:34:58.539
It's all nonsense. But Mother Nature did it right in
721
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.579
my judgment. And if you're someone of faith, you know
722
00:35:00.619 --> 00:35:01.320
exactly what I'm talking about.
723
00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:03.719
I was just going to say, everything that we need
724
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.219
and that we have was given to us and put here.
725
00:35:06.940 --> 00:35:11.960
We either complicate it or... you know, make it something
726
00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:16.039
that it's not for money purposes. It's like this scandalous
727
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:20.079
whole practice that people do with things that were sitting
728
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:24.449
right here for us. Medicine, all of it, it's sitting there,
729
00:35:24.929 --> 00:35:29.030
but we've over complicated it. And there's a lot of
730
00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:31.769
reasons that are negative that are bad as to why
731
00:35:31.849 --> 00:35:33.710
some things, you know, people are inquisitive.
732
00:35:33.750 --> 00:35:35.530
They try things. Okay, that's fine. That's fair.
733
00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:38.190
But when you're just trying to make a quick buck
734
00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:41.369
at everybody else's expense and their health and misleading and
735
00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:45.530
lying blatantly, that's where this all comes from. Because like
736
00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:49.090
you said, I mean, it's really, I don't know, let's
737
00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:51.849
just say the past century. I mean, people have been
738
00:35:51.889 --> 00:35:54.659
greedy since the beginning of time, but... The way that
739
00:35:54.739 --> 00:35:58.940
it's structurally and become more the ability to convey information
740
00:35:58.980 --> 00:36:01.900
and get it put into people's head, which really happened
741
00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:03.980
more in the past 30, 40 years where you can
742
00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:08.079
get information out and convolute, right? Yeah. Hypnotize people like,
743
00:36:08.969 --> 00:36:11.230
like they can in a variety of ways. And now,
744
00:36:11.269 --> 00:36:13.150
you know, this, they put stuff in food to get
745
00:36:13.190 --> 00:36:16.210
you addicted to it. And it's like worse than taking cocaine.
746
00:36:16.690 --> 00:36:18.090
Well, I think about there back in the, do you
747
00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:21.780
remember when, um, Uh, frozen yogurt was all the rage. Oh,
748
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.780
and we thought, what is that? That in two thousands
749
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.639
or late nineties, something like that. Why yogurt in those places?
750
00:36:26.699 --> 00:36:27.019
Yeah.
751
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.860
So I was, I remember reading an article, uh, and
752
00:36:29.900 --> 00:36:32.159
this to me is the epitome of what we see is,
753
00:36:32.500 --> 00:36:35.550
is that was so trendy that you could open up a,
754
00:36:35.780 --> 00:36:38.800
a yogurt store and make a certain amount of money,
755
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.690
million dollars, something like that. And, and literally like run
756
00:36:41.730 --> 00:36:44.449
it into the ground within a few years, but still
757
00:36:44.469 --> 00:36:46.690
walk away with a huge amount of money just because
758
00:36:46.710 --> 00:36:47.869
you were hitting the trend.
759
00:36:47.929 --> 00:36:48.409
Right. Yeah.
760
00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:51.340
I feel like that's what's happening. Like I was just
761
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.820
even at the store before coming here and I was like, oh,
762
00:36:54.619 --> 00:36:57.920
you know, tallow, tallow chips and stuff are now becoming
763
00:36:57.940 --> 00:36:59.760
all the rage, right? Or no seed oils. And I'm like,
764
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.639
this is interesting. So some of the companies are doing
765
00:37:02.659 --> 00:37:05.860
it right. It's just tallow and whatever, right? Corn or potato,
766
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.340
whatever they're doing. But then you go to some and
767
00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:12.059
it's like, yeah, they're using tallow, but they're still using
768
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.820
the sugar and all the other stuff and the preservatives.
769
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.909
Nothing is different. And you're like, Dude, this is snake blood.
770
00:37:17.989 --> 00:37:20.090
It's so frustrating. So it's like this.
771
00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:22.530
Let's relate this to like the peanut butter aisle at
772
00:37:22.570 --> 00:37:24.530
Whole Foods or whatever. And you see all of these
773
00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:29.090
natural peanut butters and natural this and organic this. And
774
00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:32.050
I swear, I did this test with my wife one day.
775
00:37:32.090 --> 00:37:33.849
I said, let's go look at all the backs of
776
00:37:33.869 --> 00:37:36.510
these and see how many of these just say peanuts
777
00:37:36.610 --> 00:37:37.610
and peanuts and salt.
778
00:37:37.650 --> 00:37:39.409
Because that's all it should be, right?
779
00:37:39.489 --> 00:37:41.989
It should either be just peanuts or just peanuts and salt,
780
00:37:42.010 --> 00:37:44.239
depending on which, you know, how they want to make it.
781
00:37:44.699 --> 00:37:49.820
And I'm telling you, there were like Three out of 20.
782
00:37:49.820 --> 00:37:51.579
And those big brands with all the money, I think
783
00:37:51.699 --> 00:37:53.400
Justin's is one of them, I think is a good
784
00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:56.730
one to use. And it's full of oils and all
785
00:37:56.750 --> 00:37:58.809
of this crap that's in regular... I might as well
786
00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:01.469
just go get the fucking Jif and enjoy myself.
787
00:38:02.210 --> 00:38:04.150
You know what I mean? What's the difference? A little
788
00:38:04.190 --> 00:38:06.570
bit more hydrogenated oil and maybe a little bit more sugar.
789
00:38:06.610 --> 00:38:08.849
But these are full of all these other palm oils
790
00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:11.809
and every other oil I'd never even heard of that's tricky.
791
00:38:12.210 --> 00:38:13.809
And I've heard of all of it, right? And it's
792
00:38:13.849 --> 00:38:17.619
just like, what the hell? I mean... I go look
793
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.719
for the grinder and just grind it myself. Yeah, totally.
794
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.460
You can't screw that well unless the peanut, you know.
795
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.500
You roast it, whatever the hell you roast it with,
796
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.199
sugar-coated things, whatever, yeah.
797
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:32.489
But literally, it's like my friends, Rob and Randy, the
798
00:38:32.530 --> 00:38:35.230
Happy Healthy guys, they have this saying, and it's called surf,
799
00:38:35.269 --> 00:38:39.269
and it's just simply eat real food. It's a great, like,
800
00:38:39.409 --> 00:38:43.119
little thing to live by, and I swear to you, it's...
801
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.599
We often complicate things.
802
00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:47.260
I do it too.
803
00:38:47.619 --> 00:38:49.460
We make things a hell of a lot more complicated
804
00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:51.179
than they need to be. And you know, what's part
805
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.780
of the problem is, is people like that are really
806
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.019
well intended, but they start making people scared of everything
807
00:38:58.039 --> 00:38:58.710
and people give up.
808
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.230
Yes. It's overcomplicating and like almost, I hate to say
809
00:39:03.309 --> 00:39:06.170
fear mongering, but it comes across like, yeah, you know,
810
00:39:06.210 --> 00:39:08.090
there's some of that. Absolutely. But you do that.
811
00:39:08.190 --> 00:39:10.650
And then people get so distressed and don't know what
812
00:39:10.690 --> 00:39:13.409
to do. They just like screw it because they can't
813
00:39:13.449 --> 00:39:17.090
be telling the truth. We need rational explanation.
814
00:39:17.650 --> 00:39:20.780
Okay. And when you can just be rational and just go, look,
815
00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:24.199
this is what it is, you know? Yeah. I, I, to, to,
816
00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:26.329
to this day, I still don't understand when people are like, well,
817
00:39:26.369 --> 00:39:28.949
but why should I be eating warm meats? i'm like
818
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.300
but you're taking some synthetic vitamin you're not questioning that
819
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:35.019
like why would you question mother nature i don't get
820
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.940
it like literally this is given to us these animals
821
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.349
are the sun the sun Feeds the grass. The grass
822
00:39:43.449 --> 00:39:46.489
feeds the cow. We cannot process the grass. The cow
823
00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:49.809
with its four stomachs can. Right. And they can absorb
824
00:39:49.849 --> 00:39:52.570
all those nutrients. And then now they're getting the sun,
825
00:39:52.949 --> 00:39:56.530
the grass. You know what it is? You know exactly
826
00:39:56.570 --> 00:39:57.429
what it is, James.
827
00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:01.110
It's that these meats in their pure form, like when
828
00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:03.610
they're grass fed and everything, you see how good they
829
00:40:03.650 --> 00:40:05.800
are for you. But when they're pumping them full of
830
00:40:05.860 --> 00:40:08.960
all of this crap and all of this whatever grain
831
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:14.380
and steroids and all of this convoluted garbage, glyphosate, I mean,
832
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:18.039
I can go on and on. That's the problem. And
833
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:22.300
that's why people then go, oh, that gave me X, Y,
834
00:40:22.340 --> 00:40:24.139
Z on my blood panel or gave me this or
835
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.719
that because it's not how it's intended to be eaten.
836
00:40:27.489 --> 00:40:29.409
That's part of the problem. And then the stuff that
837
00:40:29.550 --> 00:40:31.690
is intended to be eating, they make it very expensive
838
00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:32.110
for people.
839
00:40:32.309 --> 00:40:35.840
Yeah, no, no doubt. And you know, I mean, talk
840
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.469
about not honoring the animal, being disrespectful of the cycle
841
00:40:39.489 --> 00:40:42.119
of life. When you take, now this is going to,
842
00:40:42.150 --> 00:40:44.110
people are going to think I'm joking or lying about
843
00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:47.090
this and I'm not. So I went to a Wyoming
844
00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:49.389
slaughterhouse and I, and I had heard this, but I
845
00:40:49.489 --> 00:40:51.809
straight out talked to the guy who was running the facility.
846
00:40:51.969 --> 00:40:53.880
And I said, what are you guys doing with the
847
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.980
parts of the animal you're not selling? Are they going
848
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.139
to zoos? Are they going to agriculture? Like what is
849
00:41:01.219 --> 00:41:04.139
happening with it? And he said, well, We actually throw
850
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.260
it out. And I said, so what, like how much
851
00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:10.960
of the animals are, he's like, it's about 50%, 49%.
852
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.960
I was like, you're throwing it out. He's like, well,
853
00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:16.400
we don't have where this facility is older, where it's
854
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.679
not set up to utilize those pieces. And they're not
855
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.239
in our asset plan and yada, yada. It's like, it's
856
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:25.889
not set up in the supply chain. And that's so,
857
00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:28.670
so think about that from a, as a business owner.
858
00:41:29.349 --> 00:41:33.400
So your, your job is to raise cattle. to then
859
00:41:33.500 --> 00:41:35.019
sell it to the world so that you can feed
860
00:41:35.059 --> 00:41:38.119
the world. And 50% of it or whatever percentage, a
861
00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:41.340
large percent of it is just getting thrown out. Like
862
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:46.659
that is the most environmental, like just inhumane thing to do.
863
00:41:47.059 --> 00:41:49.409
And if you think about how this, you know, homo
864
00:41:49.429 --> 00:41:54.250
sapien body was designed, remember 300,000 years versus the 60, 70, right?
865
00:41:55.429 --> 00:41:58.710
Would we have ever, ever back in the day killed
866
00:41:58.750 --> 00:42:02.010
an animal and only taken the ribeye? No, like that
867
00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:04.829
is like insanity. That is like, that is the most
868
00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:07.630
privileged way of thinking I've ever heard. Like that. It's,
869
00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:11.409
it's so ignorant. Yeah. And I mean, on top of
870
00:42:11.469 --> 00:42:15.349
the financial idiocy, it's cruel. It's exactly, you would, you
871
00:42:15.369 --> 00:42:18.210
would have, let's say a tribe of 20 ish people, right?
872
00:42:18.469 --> 00:42:21.170
You do hunters would go out. They would probably fast
873
00:42:21.250 --> 00:42:24.090
because when you fast is anyone that's ever fasted knows your, your,
874
00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:27.110
your senses sharpen, right? Yeah. It's the best way to hunt.
875
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.920
And so you're hunting like that. You kill the animal.
876
00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:33.360
Now you need to replenish your stores. What's the first
877
00:42:33.409 --> 00:42:35.909
thing you're going to eat right there? Probably the liver
878
00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:38.230
or the heart. And you're going to eat it raw. Probably.
879
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:39.360
Right?
880
00:42:39.630 --> 00:42:43.210
So right there, now, so I'm almost kind of also
881
00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:44.809
trying to reiterate, like, people are like, well, but I
882
00:42:44.849 --> 00:42:46.610
eat ribeye and I eat liver. I'm like, dude, we're
883
00:42:46.690 --> 00:42:50.260
not designed to do that. Right. We're designed to eat
884
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:51.300
the whole animal.
885
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:51.519
Yeah.
886
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.739
And you're getting nutrients in different ways from the whole animal.
887
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.500
And with the advent of fire, you can break down,
888
00:42:57.539 --> 00:42:59.820
you know, different... parts of the animals and ways and
889
00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:03.090
get those nutrients and that is what i believe god
890
00:43:03.130 --> 00:43:06.849
or mother nature was did designed it that way if
891
00:43:06.969 --> 00:43:09.829
we've never meant to isolate things we are as humans
892
00:43:09.849 --> 00:43:13.849
we are opportunistic so this idea that we like we
893
00:43:13.889 --> 00:43:16.150
would be in an environment only use a part of
894
00:43:16.250 --> 00:43:19.619
it it's like no no if if it was growing
895
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.820
strawberries you ate strawberries if it was had animal, you
896
00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:24.639
ate animal, if there were fish, you ate, we were,
897
00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:27.320
whatever we could get our hands on, we ate.
898
00:43:27.659 --> 00:43:27.880
Right.
899
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.940
That was edible. Right. Yeah. So this idea that we
900
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.829
eat in isolation is false and that we would, if that,
901
00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:37.690
those hunters brought back that animal, they'd already eaten the liver,
902
00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:39.809
let's say. So where are the, where is everyone? Where
903
00:43:39.829 --> 00:43:41.590
are the pregnant people getting their iron? Where are they
904
00:43:41.610 --> 00:43:44.590
getting it all? The folate? Well, the spleen, for example,
905
00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:48.500
is something like five times higher heme iron than even
906
00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:49.400
the liver. Right.
907
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:49.719
Right.
908
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.159
The pancreas has natural digestive enzyme. People that are taking
909
00:43:53.219 --> 00:43:56.659
pineapple enzymes, dude, pancreas is in pluck. Just get some
910
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.980
pancreas somehow, open up a capsule, whatever you do, get
911
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.510
that in your diet. And now you're getting it from
912
00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:05.050
mother nature instead of some isolated thing that they did
913
00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:08.369
in a laboratory. But mother nature did supply. We just
914
00:44:08.429 --> 00:44:11.329
got to eat it. And so I'm like about like, dude,
915
00:44:11.349 --> 00:44:14.920
let's not split hairs. Like, I don't care how you
916
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.139
eat it. Let's just get into your diet. And I
917
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.780
know that if it's delicious and it's easy, you'll do it.
918
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:22.699
Of course. And that's all I'm here to do.
919
00:44:22.989 --> 00:44:26.190
And you're making it easier for people to purchase it,
920
00:44:26.269 --> 00:44:29.050
to use it, to stomach it if they have their problem.
921
00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:31.030
I mean, you're covering all the bases.
922
00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:34.989
You're overcoming basically every obstacle and hurdle one would have
923
00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:36.769
when trying to eat these.
924
00:44:37.630 --> 00:44:40.539
People tell me that they, particularly women, but they'll tell
925
00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:42.639
me that they have a gag reflex when they try
926
00:44:42.659 --> 00:44:45.429
to eat. Or liver. Mm-hmm. But they don't have that
927
00:44:45.449 --> 00:44:47.570
with this. Yeah, that's mental too. But yeah, you're not
928
00:44:47.590 --> 00:44:50.050
going to get any reflux with this. Because we're messing, like,
929
00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:53.510
I get it. Like, we, we, for, we're, like, a
930
00:44:53.530 --> 00:44:56.059
lot of people focus so much on flavor. But if
931
00:44:56.099 --> 00:45:00.320
you think about human nature, we're actually more texture hounds. Like,
932
00:45:00.460 --> 00:45:02.780
when we eat chips, for example, are you tasting the
933
00:45:02.820 --> 00:45:07.019
flavor or the crunch? That's true. You taste the flavor
934
00:45:07.059 --> 00:45:10.050
for the first two or three chips. Thereafter, your taste
935
00:45:10.070 --> 00:45:12.590
buds are blown out and you're just chasing the crunch.
936
00:45:12.650 --> 00:45:15.670
We are texture hounds. When I used to go to
937
00:45:15.730 --> 00:45:17.510
clients and work with them, the first question I asked
938
00:45:17.530 --> 00:45:20.590
would be like, so talk to me about the foods
939
00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:23.710
that you gravitate towards when you are having a bad day.
940
00:45:24.699 --> 00:45:26.699
Or what did you gravitate towards when you were a kid?
941
00:45:27.179 --> 00:45:30.900
I want to know where you emotionally go. And usually
942
00:45:31.340 --> 00:45:35.840
it's like creamy, fluffy. crunchy. And then once you get
943
00:45:35.949 --> 00:45:39.070
the texture down, now I could cook for anyone and
944
00:45:39.110 --> 00:45:41.679
I could cook you healthy food and you'll eat it.
945
00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:44.360
Like I can take, Oh, I didn't like Brussels sprouts
946
00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:47.849
because they were, they were like overcooked and slimy or
947
00:45:48.190 --> 00:45:50.869
like soft. I'm like, great. I'm going to broil, I'm
948
00:45:50.889 --> 00:45:52.909
going to coat them in some fat and then I'm
949
00:45:52.929 --> 00:45:55.369
going to broil them or bake them and I'll get
950
00:45:55.449 --> 00:45:57.710
crispy like chips. And then you're like, Oh dude, this
951
00:45:57.789 --> 00:46:01.170
is good. Right? So I can get you to eat anything. Oh,
952
00:46:01.210 --> 00:46:02.630
I know. If I know your texture.
953
00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:04.889
Like I said, I have done that with so many foods.
954
00:46:04.909 --> 00:46:07.110
We just did it with artichokes like a, I don't know.
955
00:46:07.139 --> 00:46:09.340
A month ago. And And they grill them? Have you
956
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:10.380
ever done that? I don't know.
957
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.059
You'd have to ask my wife how she did them.
958
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.599
However the hell she did them, I said, just keep
959
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:15.010
buying it.
960
00:46:15.619 --> 00:46:16.119
I don't care.
961
00:46:16.219 --> 00:46:20.289
And I would see the word artichoke, have zero clue
962
00:46:20.309 --> 00:46:21.989
what it tasted like, and be like, I want that
963
00:46:22.030 --> 00:46:23.889
without artichokes.
964
00:46:24.469 --> 00:46:27.829
You're focusing on the choke. Yes. Well, one day I said,
965
00:46:27.909 --> 00:46:30.510
what is that shit you're eating? And she's like, what
966
00:46:30.670 --> 00:46:31.829
do you mean? It's artichokes.
967
00:46:31.889 --> 00:46:33.409
I said, just let me taste it. I got into
968
00:46:33.429 --> 00:46:36.000
the mode of finally just tasting everything. And that's why
969
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.099
my world's opened up. Because now I love everything. Dude,
970
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.070
the art show is hilarious. Like, have you ever seen
971
00:46:41.139 --> 00:46:41.869
an art show growing?
972
00:46:41.989 --> 00:46:45.750
Oh, yeah. It's the most bizarre performance. Yeah. Like, what
973
00:46:45.849 --> 00:46:48.760
I think about sometimes is like, who is the first
974
00:46:48.860 --> 00:46:52.019
person that figured that one out? Like, really, because who
975
00:46:52.699 --> 00:46:54.579
looked at that plant and said, I think what I'm
976
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.619
going to do is I'm going to take that top
977
00:46:56.659 --> 00:46:58.679
part and I'm going to boil it for an hour
978
00:46:58.820 --> 00:47:00.539
and then eat it. It's like, who the hell came
979
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.949
up with that? I don't know. It's the most bizarre.
980
00:47:03.219 --> 00:47:04.989
It's got to be one of the most intricate foods
981
00:47:05.030 --> 00:47:07.110
to actually eat in an egg that I've ever seen.
982
00:47:07.769 --> 00:47:10.590
Yeah, and you can't just eat it raw. No, no, no, no.
983
00:47:10.650 --> 00:47:12.070
So I don't know how they figured it out, but
984
00:47:12.090 --> 00:47:14.489
that one's hilarious to me. I swear to you, I
985
00:47:14.530 --> 00:47:15.829
missed out on so many years.
986
00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:18.559
I still keep saying, because I literally cook every single
987
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.760
damn thing in Kerrygold butter now. And I am so
988
00:47:21.820 --> 00:47:24.519
mad at myself for the past 20 years of suffering
989
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.579
of thinking that I was going to get fat eating butter.
990
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:29.360
And now I'm thinner and more cut than I've ever been.
991
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.920
Aside from steroid use, like seriously. And I eat a
992
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.639
thousand some more calories than I was having literally, but
993
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.179
it's all, I do a really higher fat diet now.
994
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.920
So it's like a keto style. Well, kind of, I
995
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.880
don't go complete keto. I'm not scared to death of carbs,
996
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.679
but I keep them lower because, you know, with some
997
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.750
heart things that higher carbs, not great idea. Um, and
998
00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:55.929
so I do about 130 grams of fat, about 240
999
00:47:55.929 --> 00:47:58.230
protein and a little under a hundred carbs. And I'm
1000
00:47:58.269 --> 00:48:03.469
just like thriving on it, man. Like literally like 43% fat.
1001
00:48:03.510 --> 00:48:06.630
If I'm getting right down to this, you know, 40% protein,
1002
00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:09.909
rest carbs. So, but you're listening, you're listening to your body, everything.
1003
00:48:10.050 --> 00:48:13.409
Obviously you're testing. My HDL has always been in the forties,
1004
00:48:13.449 --> 00:48:16.360
my whole life, like always in the forties, maybe close
1005
00:48:16.380 --> 00:48:19.829
to 50. The last time I checked it, it was 79. So,
1006
00:48:19.989 --> 00:48:23.510
I mean, literally. Now, my LDL and stuff did go up.
1007
00:48:23.570 --> 00:48:25.530
I'm not going to act like that didn't, but that's
1008
00:48:25.590 --> 00:48:28.800
from the higher fats. But every single thing that I
1009
00:48:28.820 --> 00:48:30.579
drew on my blood panel, this last one I just
1010
00:48:30.619 --> 00:48:33.679
took was like the best it's been almost damn near ever.
1011
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:36.460
You do have to sacrifice a little in the LDL,
1012
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.679
but you need LDL. And people have been, it's been
1013
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.500
because of the statin industry, it's been blown into our
1014
00:48:43.539 --> 00:48:46.619
heads that We don't need that, which you do. The
1015
00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:48.849
things you need to look for are more on the
1016
00:48:48.969 --> 00:48:51.690
ApoB side, the LP little a side. And I think
1017
00:48:51.849 --> 00:48:54.309
you got to be aware of not saying you want
1018
00:48:54.309 --> 00:48:58.650
500 LDL, but you know, the, the, the LDL and
1019
00:48:58.670 --> 00:49:01.230
the cholesterol that you get is so important. Our cell
1020
00:49:01.309 --> 00:49:03.139
membranes are made of fats.
1021
00:49:03.619 --> 00:49:06.159
And are you, so this is the question I always
1022
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.199
ask people. Cause to me, this is part of listening
1023
00:49:08.219 --> 00:49:12.039
to your body. And to me is possibly one of
1024
00:49:12.059 --> 00:49:14.309
the best ways to know if something's working is How
1025
00:49:14.329 --> 00:49:17.300
are you pooping? Like, how is it leaving your body? Like,
1026
00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:19.250
are you consistent? Are you this or that, right?
1027
00:49:19.309 --> 00:49:21.539
It's like same damn time every day there you go
1028
00:49:21.579 --> 00:49:24.780
yeah and it's clean it's always super clean not like
1029
00:49:24.820 --> 00:49:27.079
when i was doing that low fat and starving it
1030
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.219
was so irregular and so like just uncomfortable.
1031
00:49:30.699 --> 00:49:35.000
That's that's communication that's information i've been so i started
1032
00:49:35.019 --> 00:49:39.369
uh recently I'm definitely going more carnivore right now. Yeah.
1033
00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:43.429
But what I'm doing differently is I'm only doing fermented vegetables,
1034
00:49:43.530 --> 00:49:46.909
cultured vegetables. There you go. And I feel fantastic. What
1035
00:49:46.949 --> 00:49:50.780
are some that you're having, like kimchi, sauerkraut? Yeah, kimchi, sauerkrauts,
1036
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.519
and pickles as well. But the key, though, is the
1037
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.380
way that you would do these things unnaturally is using vinegar.
1038
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.179
So you want to look for cultured products that are
1039
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.820
truly fermented. So if it's fermented, it's going to be
1040
00:50:03.860 --> 00:50:07.039
more natural. but they're just using salt or the, the,
1041
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:11.179
and the, just the what's in the air. Yeah. Um,
1042
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:15.519
that's to me, I, Bill and I, the Bill Schindler
1043
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.179
I brought up earlier, he and I kind of agree
1044
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:19.929
on this. It's like a lot of people focus on the, what, like,
1045
00:50:20.070 --> 00:50:20.829
what are you eating?
1046
00:50:20.889 --> 00:50:21.090
Right.
1047
00:50:21.150 --> 00:50:24.719
Right. But, What's not always in the conversation, which we
1048
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.260
think about, cause we both cook is what about the how?
1049
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.119
Because you, when we talk about like, if your digestion
1050
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.880
system got smaller, meaning that you can't digest these things,
1051
00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.539
cause you know, like a lot of influencers, like stay
1052
00:50:35.579 --> 00:50:37.880
away from kale, stay away from this. Right. They're saying like,
1053
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.500
this is bad, but it's like, well, is that bad?
1054
00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:43.300
Or is it just the way it was? You're preparing it.
1055
00:50:43.349 --> 00:50:45.349
You know what I mean? If you're eating it raw,
1056
00:50:45.409 --> 00:50:48.329
maybe that's not bad. But like when we got this
1057
00:50:48.389 --> 00:50:52.409
bigger brain and we got the smaller digestive system, What
1058
00:50:52.449 --> 00:50:54.369
we gain with the brain is now that we have
1059
00:50:54.409 --> 00:50:58.590
the knowledge and the tools to make the digestion outside
1060
00:50:58.630 --> 00:50:59.130
of our body.
1061
00:50:59.289 --> 00:50:59.769
Yeah.
1062
00:50:59.929 --> 00:51:03.280
And that's what fermentation is and culturing. Oh, yeah. And
1063
00:51:03.409 --> 00:51:06.000
so you can preserve dairy. You can do things right
1064
00:51:06.340 --> 00:51:09.519
with fermentation and culturing. You can take a vegetable that
1065
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.659
is not going to be good raw or won't even
1066
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:15.039
be digestible. But yet when you ferment it, it's completely digestible.
1067
00:51:15.539 --> 00:51:17.940
Old Dr. Gundry beat it into my head about the
1068
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.159
bitter is better thing.
1069
00:51:19.179 --> 00:51:20.960
Cause I would, you know, I've interviewed him so many
1070
00:51:21.019 --> 00:51:22.719
times and talked to him, but he's big on the
1071
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:23.690
fermented foods.
1072
00:51:23.730 --> 00:51:25.530
We talked about it in detail.
1073
00:51:25.550 --> 00:51:29.909
Because they have a pretty key role in fixing leaky
1074
00:51:29.949 --> 00:51:31.349
gut issues, you know?
1075
00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.690
So, well think about that. Just, okay. Our flavors, right?
1076
00:51:34.769 --> 00:51:37.880
That tastes. Okay. So there's four that we grew up learning,
1077
00:51:37.900 --> 00:51:40.219
which is salty, sweet, bitter, sour.
1078
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:40.599
Yep.
1079
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.170
There you go. Right. There's a fifth that they discovered
1080
00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:46.849
in the 90s. That's umami. That was in Japan. And
1081
00:51:46.869 --> 00:51:49.969
then they think there's a sixth. And it's not talked
1082
00:51:50.030 --> 00:51:51.739
about as much, but it makes sense. It's like when
1083
00:51:51.780 --> 00:51:53.719
something is rancid, it has a flavor.
1084
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:54.159
Right.
1085
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:57.579
And that's probably a protectant. Yeah. Just like I said earlier,
1086
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.039
if it's going to kill me, right? So that probably
1087
00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:02.590
has its unique taste so that we don't eat it.
1088
00:52:02.989 --> 00:52:06.400
It's our body communicating, don't eat this. But when you
1089
00:52:06.420 --> 00:52:09.500
think about all those tastes have a role. So what
1090
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.219
does salt represent? Well, hydration, right? So you need to
1091
00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:16.119
know what's salty in a food. What is umami? Well,
1092
00:52:16.179 --> 00:52:21.789
umami is protein. Mushrooms have umami, meat has umami, organs
1093
00:52:21.829 --> 00:52:25.670
have it. So these flavors, bitters have a role, right?
1094
00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:29.789
Sour has a role. So what I find is a
1095
00:52:29.849 --> 00:52:31.789
lot of times people are not thinking about these or
1096
00:52:31.809 --> 00:52:33.809
they're thinking about them too innocently. And I'm like, okay,
1097
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:39.110
Let's talk about picky eater, for example. What flavors are
1098
00:52:39.230 --> 00:52:42.030
only focused on in a picky eater? Well, if they're American,
1099
00:52:42.070 --> 00:52:44.409
it's probably salty sweet. I was going to say. Right?
1100
00:52:45.150 --> 00:52:49.179
And that means that that's where their palate is basically
1101
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.019
calibrated to just focus on salt sweet. So if something's bitter,
1102
00:52:53.059 --> 00:52:56.300
it's gross to them. Yeah. If something is not sweet,
1103
00:52:56.380 --> 00:52:58.980
it's gross, right? That's why Skippy was so good when
1104
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.889
we were kids. And then the natural stuff tasted gross,
1105
00:53:01.929 --> 00:53:05.329
but now because your palate's recalibrated, the natural stuff tastes right.
1106
00:53:05.389 --> 00:53:07.269
Really good. And the other stuff tastes gross, right?
1107
00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:07.429
Yeah.
1108
00:53:07.730 --> 00:53:11.489
So I'm always telling people the way to fix kind of,
1109
00:53:11.570 --> 00:53:13.719
or to get a picky eater to be more adventurous
1110
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.960
is you got to introduce those other flavors, but you
1111
00:53:15.980 --> 00:53:18.239
don't have to go like all in. And this is
1112
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.360
really important in general, like my whole principle, even with
1113
00:53:21.420 --> 00:53:25.159
pluck of microdosing frequently cumulative effect. So I'm all about,
1114
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:26.960
let's focus on how frequently you eat.
1115
00:53:27.300 --> 00:53:27.519
Right.
1116
00:53:27.619 --> 00:53:31.139
These healthy foods, not about how much you eat. So
1117
00:53:31.420 --> 00:53:33.500
this is the same quality as in America. We always
1118
00:53:33.539 --> 00:53:35.219
think like, oh, go big or go home. I'm like,
1119
00:53:35.260 --> 00:53:38.309
but that's not how we are as humans. Whenever anything
1120
00:53:38.730 --> 00:53:42.010
is extreme, we fall off of it. Like, so we're,
1121
00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:46.550
we are like brushing your teeth works because it's two
1122
00:53:46.650 --> 00:53:48.889
minutes a day, not two hours. It was two hours.
1123
00:53:48.909 --> 00:53:50.150
It'd be a lot of funky teeth out there.
1124
00:53:51.190 --> 00:53:51.369
Right?
1125
00:53:51.690 --> 00:53:53.869
And intimacy even. Like, I always joke, like, okay, if
1126
00:53:53.929 --> 00:53:56.489
I were trying to work on anything in the human
1127
00:53:56.550 --> 00:53:59.150
body or someone's character, let's just say they have an
1128
00:53:59.269 --> 00:54:01.780
issue with intimacy. Well, how are you going to move
1129
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:03.960
their intimacy needle? Are you going to say, okay, I
1130
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.199
want you to hug someone, hold them for an entire hour.
1131
00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:08.059
That's going to move. That's not going to work. It's
1132
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:08.599
not going to work.
1133
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:08.900
No.
1134
00:54:09.059 --> 00:54:11.639
But if I said, okay, I want you to just five,
1135
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.130
like 30 seconds every day, I want you to just
1136
00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:15.710
sit in front of someone and stare in their eyes.
1137
00:54:15.889 --> 00:54:18.489
That's all you got to do. Just be close to them.
1138
00:54:18.650 --> 00:54:18.829
Mm-hmm.
1139
00:54:19.579 --> 00:54:21.739
And then every week I want you to take a
1140
00:54:21.780 --> 00:54:23.679
step closer, but you don't have to do more than five,
1141
00:54:23.699 --> 00:54:27.000
you know, 30 seconds. Right. So we can work on,
1142
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.250
we can work on anything when it's in small doses
1143
00:54:30.409 --> 00:54:33.030
and we can sustain it. That's the problem. I'm all
1144
00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:35.110
about that. If, if I don't care if it's healthy,
1145
00:54:35.610 --> 00:54:38.329
I want to know what is sustainable. That's it. I
1146
00:54:38.389 --> 00:54:41.949
say focus on frequency, but I brought this up though
1147
00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:45.880
more so because, um, I was talking about, um, I
1148
00:54:45.900 --> 00:54:47.500
went to pluck cause I was trying to equate this.
1149
00:54:48.769 --> 00:54:52.059
I lost it. But the point is though, is that like, I,
1150
00:54:53.030 --> 00:54:55.809
I really do try to think about human nature as well.
1151
00:54:55.909 --> 00:54:58.679
And I'm not just thinking about the, what I'm talking about,
1152
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.880
the how as well. And how does it, not only
1153
00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:04.440
how is it work outside our body, but how does
1154
00:55:04.460 --> 00:55:06.199
it work inside our body, but also how does it
1155
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:07.559
work with my human nature?
1156
00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:08.019
Right.
1157
00:55:08.059 --> 00:55:09.780
I think we have to consider all of those things.
1158
00:55:10.019 --> 00:55:10.559
I agree.
1159
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:12.800
We're almost out of time and we didn't get to
1160
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.949
talk about shark tank. So we got just like three,
1161
00:55:16.030 --> 00:55:20.829
four minutes, but let's, so, If anybody out there isn't aware,
1162
00:55:21.650 --> 00:55:22.929
Pluck was on Shark Tank.
1163
00:55:22.949 --> 00:55:24.929
That was October 8th, was it? Yeah, 8th.
1164
00:55:24.969 --> 00:55:29.769
So it was just recently. So, I mean, Shark Tank's
1165
00:55:29.809 --> 00:55:32.530
been around forever. I have watched Shark Tank so many
1166
00:55:32.570 --> 00:55:34.670
times that I know so much about it. So, I mean,
1167
00:55:34.690 --> 00:55:38.679
I gather what you went through. Just real quickly, how.
1168
00:55:40.369 --> 00:55:43.070
how nerve wracking was it? And what was like, did
1169
00:55:43.110 --> 00:55:44.250
you feel pressure?
1170
00:55:44.329 --> 00:55:47.269
Like how, how was the pressure from convey it from
1171
00:55:47.309 --> 00:55:49.880
what it looks like on TV and how split second
1172
00:55:49.900 --> 00:55:51.599
and how quick you have to be and, and what
1173
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:52.340
that felt like.
1174
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.019
I just want to know like, yeah, they cut it obvious.
1175
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:58.000
I mean, it's like, you film like about everyone's probably
1176
00:55:58.019 --> 00:56:00.300
a little different, but it's about 45 minutes. Oh, and
1177
00:56:00.340 --> 00:56:01.940
they're cutting it down to like seven or eight. So
1178
00:56:01.980 --> 00:56:05.280
they definitely intensify it even more so, but it is intense.
1179
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Yeah.
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There's no doubt. It's intense. You, you are basically trying
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to navigate. What are the points I'm trying to get
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across to them? But what am I also trying... I'm
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also trying to make sure that it's exciting enough because
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they film more people than they show. Right. So if
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you're not... If it's not good TV, you ain't getting shown. Oh, wow. Okay.
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You got to make it good TV. So you go
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film and then they let you know, hey, we're going
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to use you on TV. So just because... You don't know.
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You don't know.
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No, the whole process... There's a lot I can't talk
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about because you have to sign a day. Yeah, of course.
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But I don't think this is... This is to be
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expected that through any... The whole process, nothing is ever expected. Like,
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you're passing go and hoping that whatever assignment they just
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gave you, that you get to the next level. So
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even after you filmed it... You don't know. You still
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don't know. And so when we went to film, we
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got told three weeks before it was going to film, like, hey,
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you're going to air. It's like, so... I'm just so
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grateful we filmed. And to your point, like Shark Tank,
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and I said this, I don't think they showed it,
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but at the end when they interview, I straight up said,
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I said, look, I just feel grateful. Yeah. Shark Tank,
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this is their 17th season. I know. It's crazy. They
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have done more for business and entrepreneurs. I know people
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that watch it with their kids. It is shaping more
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lives than anything I can think of. And it deserves
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all the accolades.
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You know how many- hours of cardio that I would
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just even watched old ones like that.
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And I learn like, I don't, I watch it for
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two reasons.
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One is to see joy and people and to see
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them like get their lives made. And two is to learn,
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you know what I mean? It's not even for the entertainment. It's,
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it's for those two things. I want to see people overjoyed.
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Feeling good, having something happen that they never dreamed of happening.
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Like I want to see that. I want to feel
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that I want to feel what they're feeling with them.
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And two, I just want to learn.
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Well, I think you're going to appreciate this because you're
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a man of faith. And so I'm in my about
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fifth year of running Pluck. Since I created it, every
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single year, multiple people would tell me, you got to
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be on Shark Tank. Oh my God, this would be perfect. Everybody,
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every time I was like, no, it doesn't feel right.
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Because I didn't need it for my ego. And I'm
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also very aware that when I started Pluck, and even
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still now, we're ahead of the game. Everyone's not fully
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there yet. They're getting there, but not everyone's on board
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with Oregon Meats yet. So I know that we're ahead
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of the curve. Yeah, of course. And I just never
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thought it was the right time. Well, earlier this year,
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I just suddenly had this epiphany, and I was like,
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you know what? This is bigger than me.
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Yeah.
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Like this is a movement. And this is exactly what
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we've been talking about. This nose to tail movement, bringing
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people back to like, we got to like, listen to
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our bodies and we got to eat as mother nature intended.
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And then make decisions from there, not eat like crap
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and then wonder why we're sick and then never go
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back to nature. Like, like, like we, we gotta start
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with those foundations, those ancestral foundations. And so I was like,
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this is about the movement and it's bigger than me. And,
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and like, I want to go on shark tank so
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that I can promote the movement. Yeah. If they buy
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pluck or whatever, or it gets invested, I don't care.
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Like it's about the mission. Yeah. And I said that,
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and then I went and told my wife that. And then,
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no joke, three days later, I got an email from
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one of the producers saying, I saw your ad. We'd
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love to have a meeting with you and invite you
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to come and apply on Shark Tank. And I didn't
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even know they did that.
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Yeah.
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They do it to like, I heard it's like 20%
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of businesses they actually reach out to. And then 80%
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are applying. Right, right. But I got reached out to.
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And I cannot help but think that was divine. Like
1261
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it was the shift of me going, this is not
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about ego. It's about mission.
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We'll definitely do more of this for sure. But I
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want to make sure that everybody knows where to find you.
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01:00:08.130 --> 01:00:12.230
And I also want to give everybody the opportunity. James
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01:00:12.289 --> 01:00:14.610
is giving me a code for you for 20% off
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01:00:14.659 --> 01:00:18.159
for watching. It's just Jameli, very easy to use.
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So just go to It's a pluck.com. Eat pluck. Eat pluck.
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Cause we're all about eating. That's right.
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Okay.
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Not swallowing. Beautiful. So eat pluck and then follow you
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01:00:27.650 --> 01:00:30.489
on Instagram. Yeah. We're on it. We're on all socials at,
1273
01:00:30.969 --> 01:00:32.510
at eat pluck. And then if you want to follow
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01:00:32.530 --> 01:00:36.519
me personally, it's at chef James Berry. Sweet. Awesome, man. Well,
1275
01:00:36.659 --> 01:00:38.579
thank you so much for coming out here with me.
1276
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.780
The pleasure. I really enjoyed every last second of this, man.
1277
01:00:42.820 --> 01:00:44.440
I really did. We got to do it again for sure.
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01:00:44.909 --> 01:00:48.119
No doubt. Awesome. All right, everybody. Well, that wraps up
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01:00:48.179 --> 01:00:51.340
another one. Make sure you go check my man James out.
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01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:54.219
Support him. Take care of yourself. This is a perfect
1281
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.719
way to do it. And stay tuned for plenty more
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to come. Dylan Gemelli and James Berry signing off.