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welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli podcast on set. I
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am over the moon about my guest today. I'm going
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to tell you why. But first, I want to list
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some of his credentials because he's known for his company.
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But I think that you're going to be in awe
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of the knowledge that he has. And we're going to
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dig into every aspect that I can. I'm going to
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drain him this hour that I have him here. So
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he's a board certified internist. He's a functional medicine expert.
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He's well known for doing so many different types of specialties,
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whether it be gut health, brain optimization. We're going to
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talk about cellular health with him today. We're going to
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overcome some of the different issues I've seen out there
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on mitochondrial discussion. We're going to do it all. And
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I can't wait to get into all of that. He's
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got some tremendous books that, as you can see, featured
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right here. If you're on video that I've got sitting
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out in front of me, Gut Smart Protocol, Happy Gut.
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I would highly, highly urge you to watch these. But
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he's also the founder of Happy Gut Coffee, which I
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will get into in just a minute, but my friends,
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welcome Vincent Pedri, MD. I'm stoked to be here, man.
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Thank you so much for being here. Ever since I
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met you, brother, like I knew there was something good
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about you. For people listening, I met Vincent kind of
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on accident really at, it was at HOS in Austin
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at the biohacking convention. And I just happened to be
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going by and I am a coffee snob and Saw it.
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I thought, well, let's give it a shot. I try
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all of these and I go in there kind of
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even tempered. I, you know, there's everybody makes promises and I,
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he's the gold standard for my coffee drinking. Literally. I
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told him the other day, I said, brother, I said,
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I want to make your day today. I said, I
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try all of these different coffees. I, I get approached
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by people that want me to try them and I
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have to compare them to yours. And they always fail.
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Don't let Dave Asprey know that. I'm sorry. I love you, Dave.
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And I love your coffee. It's second on my list.
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But it's just, there's something about what you've done here.
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So we're going to get into all of that. But
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thanks again for coming to see me. I know it's
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not easy to just get up and fly and leave.
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And you did right away. And I just really appreciate it. 100%. 100%.
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I would do it a thousand times for you. I
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appreciate it, brother. Well, let's dig in. You know, I
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know you're known for the coffee. We're going to get
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into the coffee because I want to talk about health
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benefits and different aspects of coffee. But I want to
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get in more to what you do and focus on
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because you do a lot. You put out a lot
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of content. You talk about a lot of different aspects
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of health. You're not a coffee guy by any stretch.
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You're a genius. And so I want to talk about
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all of those things that you get into. So let's
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start with this. What are some of your key areas
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of expertise that you like to focus on that you
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feel are the most important for our health and longevity?
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Oh man, the gut is the foundation, right? Like I've
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been preaching that for over 10 years. The gut is
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like the root system of our tree. If our body
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is like a tree, the roots are what make the
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tree healthy or make the tree sick. And for us,
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it's a digestive system. The truth is though, like, I'm
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now starting to dial back and look, well, what's behind
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even that? And if you start pulling back the curtain
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and looking behind that, you know what you find is
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mitochondria and cellular health. And it's behind everything, including the
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health of the gut lining. And then that determines everything
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else because if your gut is not well, then you're
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not gonna break down protein. You're not gonna absorb amino acids.
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You're not gonna be able to build muscle tissue. And
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we know that muscle is longevity, but you can't have
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muscle if you're not breaking down protein and absorbing those
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amino acids. It's something that I see over and over.
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And it's not that I'm trying to be like, hey,
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the gut first, then muscle. But if you want muscle,
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then you need a healthy gut. Like I struggle to
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put on muscle weight For most of my life. That was,
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I used to get made fun of for being skinny
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when I was in high school. And that's when my
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gut issues started. I had been on 20 plus rounds
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of antibiotics. I had developed sensitivities to gluten dairy, but
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I didn't know this. I was having cereal with milk
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in the morning. I was having sandwiches, pizza, pasta, cheese.
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I was eating all the wrong things, eating like three
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to 4,000 calories a day. but I was real thin
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because my body could not absorb anything. And it wasn't
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until I started fixing my gut. And initially, sometimes when
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you fix your gut, like you're taking out inflammatory foods,
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like people who are sensitive to gluten, for example, gluten
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absorbs a lot of water with it. It's very hydrophilic.
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So someone who is eating lots of bread, pasta, et cetera,
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and is sensitive to it, they're going to be puffy.
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Their face is going to be puffy. So you might
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actually lose weight initially as you're healing your gut. And
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it's really water weight, like you're becoming less puffy. But
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then my goal was to build muscle. And that took
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a bit longer because I had to heal and seal
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those tight junctions. But what I didn't realize is that
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my high stress lifestyle had shut off my vagus nerve
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and I just didn't break down proteins. So when I
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started taking a digestive enzyme, increasing protein, because also we
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all think we're eating enough protein and most of us
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do not get enough protein, but it doesn't matter if
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you're getting 150 grams of protein if your stomach doesn't
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have the digestive power to break that protein down so
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that you can get the amino acids. So when I
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introduced the digestive enzyme, I was able to start packing
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on muscle weight for the first time in my life.
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So it's been, It's been a long journey and a
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lot of the stuff that I've become interested in has
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been things that were related to my own personal health journey.
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Started with the gut because I suffered from so many
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gut issues as a child going into my 20s, started
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getting skin rashes, eczema, lots of brain fog. Turned out
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the brain fog was actually the wheat, the gluten. Really?
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Was causing the brain fog. And when I cut out
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the wheat, My brain started sharpening. Then fast forward, you know,
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this is like, I'm in my mid thirties when I
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went through this whole thing, cutting out gluten, fixing my
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gut microbiome, learning about the microbiome for the first time,
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because they didn't teach us that in medical school. It's
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almost like they didn't teach us the most essential things
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that we need for our health in medical school. They
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taught us how to prescribe drugs, right? Basically. And then
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they threw out all the biochemistry with it. And they're like,
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just give people these drugs fast forward, you know, and
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as you become older, then you start becoming more interested
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in longevity. And if you're interested in longevity, then you
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need to understand mitochondria, right? Because mitochondria are determining the,
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the health of the cell. So it's even become, you know,
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going even more granular because the gut is the foundation.
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If you're building a house, you don't build a house
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without a foundation. If you're building your health, you bypass
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the gut. You have a very weak foundation. That house
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is going to come crumbling down at some point. But
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if you go granular, you see that behind that it's
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mitochondria and cellular health right so i i always say
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that disease i mean inflammation obviously is a big cause
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of all the disease but i say it kind of
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starts and ends in the cells and people don't really
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think about that then you look deeper and it's mitochondria
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health and people i think That it's not really discussed
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aside from like in our communities and more in detail
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biohacking communities. But you go to regular doctors or practitioners,
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they don't really talk about anything cellular or anything like that.
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And they don't ask you about your diet. They've forgotten
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about that. And they've forgotten about redox science and how
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important it is to actually that every cell is like
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a battery. And that battery is healthiest. When it's at
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negative 70 to 90 millivolts. And as you age, you
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get sicker. You start getting more oxidation inside the cell.
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It starts to break down. That battery starts to drop. Yeah.
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And it starts dropping into the 40s, then the 30s,
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then 15. And that's where you start getting autoimmunity, cancer,
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all sorts of disruption because your DNA can't be expressed
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properly when the cell voltage is off. Yeah. And who's
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controlling the cell voltage? The mitochondria. Right. And I can't
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remember who it was I was talking to. I said,
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how many cells do we have in our body? I mean,
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it's such an insane amount. I mean, it was like trillions, right?
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And then you start to think about that. And if
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you're having cellular issues, I mean, think about how many
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are within you and the function and control that they have.
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And I'm with you because I have talked to so
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many people now I'm privy to that information that I
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see what they're teaching them in school. And so I
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don't really blame the doctors because they're just doing what
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they're taught and what they're told. And if you're paying
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hundreds of thousand dollars to go to school and that's
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what you're being told, what are you supposed to think?
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There's also so much to cover that it, it took
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me having that foundation, but then it took me going
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the next level and always asking, well, what else? Yeah.
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What am I missing? Where is the truth here? Because
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the truth can't be that we're just pumping people with
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drugs and just telling them, keep eating your pizza, keep
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eating your fries, keep having those omega-6 oils. That can't
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be the truth. No. I was in the hospital a
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few months ago and there was a heart-healthy menu. And
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if you would have seen what was on this heart-healthy menu,
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I looked at my wife and I was laying there
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and I said, Is this reality? It's a chicken parmesan
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tortellini margarine dinner rolls. This is all on the heart
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healthy menu. I am not lying. I took snapshots of it.
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It's crazy. And I was completely just blown away by
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what they would even say is heart healthy and then
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give to patients that were in there. I was in
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the cardiology area, you know, when this happened, when I
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had an episode and I thought, good thing I know
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what I'm doing, you know, and I'm having them bring
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me in salmon and foods and my own things and
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things to eat that were actually heart healthy. But, you know,
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why why is it do you feel when you go
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to the doctor, they come up with this term idiopathic?
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And to me, it's like when they say that that
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means we really don't know, but they don't dig and
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they don't look for anything. They don't test for anything.
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Heavy metals, toxins, they don't look at cellular health. They
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don't look at anything. They don't look at the gut.
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What they're saying is that I don't have a language
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for this. Okay. It's outside of the scope of the
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tools that we have. You know, because what I tell
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patients is you're not going to find what you don't
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look for. Right. So if you don't look for heavy
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metals that are hidden in your body, you're not going
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to find them. Right. But you may do a blood count,
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you may do liver-kidney function, and they might all look normal.
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And what really partly inspired me in my career, other
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than really amazing thought leaders from back in the 90s,
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like Deepak Chopra, Andrew Weil, Mark Hyman, was really being
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able to, not feeling satisfied with saying that this is idiopathic,
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like wanting to know, well, is it really? Or is
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there something else? going on here? Is there something that
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we're missing? And I don't know where that came from.
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I was thinking recently, where does my contrarian thinking come from?
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I really think it's my dad. My dad was not
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a doctor. He was an engineer. He questioned everything, even
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including politics. He questioned the stories that we were told.
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He even had a book I remember called Contrarian Investing.
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like how to invest in the stock market in a
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way that most people don't. So I think that trickled
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into me and my upbringing and made me a contrarian
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doctor looking for the things that most people aren't looking.
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And really, functional medicine is looking at the stones that
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were left unturned by others. And because I tend to
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see people downstream after they've been to four or five,
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seven doctors... I have the benefit of learning, and this
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is what I've been doing for years, is listening very
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carefully and learning from what all the other doctors did
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that didn't solve the problem. So then I have to ask,
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what else? What else is going on here that they
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didn't think of? I find it strange, troubling, intriguing that
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the people that most anybody, if you ask who's the
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smartest person that you've ever heard of or thought of,
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most people say something like Einstein. You get some people
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that know philosophers or everything. They'll bring up other people
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that are philosophers. I don't know. Socrates. I'm not a
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big philosopher. I don't know. But I do know that
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they're going to be bringing up names like that. And
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then I say to myself, What separates them from everybody
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else that we know? They questioned everything. They questioned anything
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and everything, and that's how they figured out new things.
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Just like when we develop technologies, don't you think when
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we went from VCR to DVD to Blu-ray, there were
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a lot of questions asked as to how can we
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fix this or do this? There's got to be a
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way or a mechanism. And what really distinguished them, which
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Robert Greene wrote in his book Mastery, was that when
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they hit an obstacle, Something that where humanity hadn't gone
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before and something hadn't been thought that way, they didn't stop. Right.
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They continued asking the question, figuring it out. Einstein, Benjamin Franklin,
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Isaac Newton, you know, all of those thought leaders. The
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commonality is that they didn't stop when they hit the obstacle.
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They kept looking. Because there has to be another way.
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There always has to be different ways. There's cures for everything.
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They're out there. We're seeing it. Like, look at where
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medical knowledge is now. like advanced medical knowledge in the
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functional medicine realm, but also the science, like where it
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is today compared to where it was 20 years ago,
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huge jump, huge jump. And yet at the same time,
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like when I think about like where things are jumping to,
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you know, like with biohackers and all the things that
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we're doing, we're losing a little bit of the details, right?
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In place of, you know, the shiny objects. Yeah. Right.
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I love that I still see patients because if there's
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something that patients do for you is they keep you
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humble and they keep you connected to the pulse of
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what it really takes to make somebody healthy, because what makes,
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what it takes to make you healthy will be slightly
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different than what it takes to make the next person healthy.
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And the next person, it's not a one size fits all,
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even though we can make some big generalities like, hey,
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like don't eat crap food. Don't eat processed foods. Yeah,
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let's start there. That's the basics. But then there's all
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these little details that when you, because I work with
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people who are pretty sick, you start realizing like, okay, yeah,
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What worked great for this person is not working for
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this person. So I've got to restructure, like refine, like
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how is it that I need to approach this case
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slightly differently because they're not responding in the way I
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would expect them to. You can ask my wife this
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and anybody that else that's ever around me a lot.
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One of the key things and factors when I know
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I'm talking to somebody of intelligence is one of the
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first things that they say is that Just because it
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works for you does not necessarily mean it's going to
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work for the next. There are so many different things
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that fall into that, whether it's age, whether it's family history, allergies.
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million things and that as a good doctor, as a
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good practitioner, health coach, whatever, it is your job to
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ask the proper questions and to know the needs and
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necessities of who you're working with. And the people that
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do this, they're either stuck in their ways. They have
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this one set mentality. And you even see it with diets,
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you know, whether it's the keto people, the carnivore people,
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the high carb people, and they argue and they fight
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and they make it this big thing. And then they
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start calling each other names. I mean, it's it's absolutely insane.
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that continues to be polarized. It doesn't help anybody. What
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helps people are the people like you that are willing
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to say, hey. it might be a little different for
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you it might be a little bit different for you
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let's look let's find let's figure it out let's work
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on this everything in life is trial and error i
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don't care it is it is from the moment you're
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born to the moment you die it's trial and error
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we're making educated guesses yes and The thing that someone
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like me brings to the table is that I've had
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a lot of experience. I've seen all the ways that
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things can go. I've seen when they don't go so well. Yeah. Um,
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but even then, like we're still working with a chaotic system,
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that chaotic system being your body, human body is like
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this incredible quantum force with like an ecosystem. that is
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operating in ways that sometimes you can't fully predict because
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there are many influences on what is creating the outer
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picture of health that we are seeing in a person
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or on wellness. One of the things I'm focusing on
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right now that you've brought up a little bit earlier,
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we talked about off camera, is the mind-body connection and
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that correlation to build full health. Because I feel like
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I've said this multiple times, and I think I told
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you this too, that I spent so many years focusing
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on the fitness side, the nutrition side, the things that
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I was really into, which of course, I mean, that's
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one of the key halves here, but I totally just
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left out the correlation and the importance of the mind,
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the neuroscience side of it, and how that really is
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the other aspect of now we've got the true foundation
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for our health. There's going to be things along the
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way that we got to address that are going to
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be down the line of importance that are all highly important.
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But if you're not optimized in that regard, I don't
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think you can really do much of anything else in totality.
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You know what I mean? Just like you were saying, well,
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if your gut's having issues, you're not going to be
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able to build the muscle, right? And the foundation. But
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if you don't believe... that making these changes are going
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to help you. So it's bottom up, top down. You
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don't believe that this is going to help you and
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that it's not worth doing the sacrifices, putting in the work,
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then nothing's going to work, right? So mind-body connection, I mean,
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we know from this book, Molecules of Emotion, that our
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white blood cells have neurotransmitter receptors so they can feel
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our thoughts. So we are controlling even how our immune
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system is behaving. We know that people with a positive
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mental attitude have better outcomes when it comes to cancer
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treatments than ones that don't. So there's something there. And
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whenever I'm working with people, and I've written about it
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in both of my books, like in my first book,
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it was a 20-day gut reset. And as part of that,
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I tell people, I want you to journal, and you're
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going to write a daily gratitude. We know that people
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who write a daily gratitude, like when they write down
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what you're grateful for on a daily basis, it creates
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a greater sense of positivity and that then translates to
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better health in general. Then think about the work of
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Masaru Emoto. We are 70% water. Masaru Emoto studied, he
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was a Japanese scientist who studied the effects of what
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happens if you take a glass of water. and you
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project an emotion to that water, and then you instantly
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freeze it in that moment. And you look at the
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crystals that form, he got, and this was repeated over
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and over, like over multiple experiments and they still have, um,
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he passed away, but they still have the Institute in
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Japan when the water received love and gratitude. it formed
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the most beautiful crystals, the most ornate crystals. If the
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water had anger projected at it, the crystals became disordered.
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They broke down. They didn't have all the nice edges
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and shape that you see in a snowflake. And he
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did this over and over. Well, what are we holding
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in our bodies? Are you holding gratitude, love? Or are
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you holding a lot of anger, resentment? And I think
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you can't separate the two. And I've never seen them
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as separate. Like when someone is coming in and working
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with me, we're working at the physical level. But very
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early on, I'm already paying very close attention to the
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words that they use, their attitude. Like your words create
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your reality, right? If you're speaking a lot of negative words,
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if you're speaking words of doubt, then that's the reality
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that you're creating. And that's something that I've tried to
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impart on my son is teaching him the power of
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words because those words are what you are holding in
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your field. And then that's what you project outwards. But
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then it's affecting things like the vagus nerve. Yeah. I
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want to hear about that because I've started to study
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that and learn more about the actual effects that has
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on everything. And it's kind of been mind blowing to
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me on what exactly it does and controls. Would you
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just mind kind of given like a simple breakdown first
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of what it even is and then like the power
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that it has over our health and our our minds
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and everything that we do? I really want like a
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nice little detailed synopsis from you of that, please. I
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talk a lot about it in my second book, The
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Gut Smart Protocol. I always put into my books the
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things that I've feel that I want people to do,
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though people always want, well, what's the diet? What do
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I do to fix myself physically? And then the other
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stuff is always kind of like an addition to like meditation, mindfulness,
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breath work, all of that. The vagus nerve is kind
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of like that interface between the mind, the body, and
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the breath. It starts in the brainstem and it goes...
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all the way down across the neck. Vagus comes from
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Latin meaning lazy because it is the longest nerve in
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the body, like a lazy river. And it innervates every
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single organ underneath the neck. So the lungs, the heart,
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the intestine, the spleen, the liver, all of that is
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innervated by the vagus nerve. The vagus nerve is controlling
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things like heart rate variability. And it's controlling it by
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how balanced Your sympathetic drive is with your parasympathetic drive.
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And it actually has two branches. This is a really
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interesting part to the vagus is that it has a
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primitive branch. It's called the dorsal vagus. So when we're
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talking about vagus, like when usually when I'm talking about
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the vagus nerve, I'm talking about the ventral branch that
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is innervating the heart, the lungs, the intestines. But then
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you have a dorsal branch, which is more connected to
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the reptilian part of the brain. And that's that part
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that we call the freeze response. So you fight, flight,
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or you freeze. Well, freeze is not a sympathetic response.
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It's actually a vagal response. It's the primitive vagus. And
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that's the deactivated vagus. So that's when you don't want
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to get out of bed. You're depressed. Your mood is low.
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on treatment-resistant depression patients who were on failed two drugs.
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And they did vagal nerve stimulation. 37% of those recovered. Wow.
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Just by reactivating the vagus nerve. So stuff like that
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tells you within 30 minutes of a traumatic brain injury,
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if you're in an accident, you could get your head hit,
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vagus nerve shuts off. And you get leaky gut because
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we needed those impulses. So I, so Vegas is another
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one where you've got top down and you've got down up.
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vagal tone. And that's almost like telling your body like, Hey,
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everything's okay. You can chillax. It's kind of like, I
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don't know if you go back to when we actually
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had landline phones that had a dial tone. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
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so it's kind of like that dial tone when you
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picked up the phone. Yeah. It's telling your body everything's okay. Like,
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keep making stomach acid. Keep moving food down the digestive tract.
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Keep those tight junctions intact because partly that's dependent on
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the vagus. But the other direction is probably the most
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important because, like, 70%, 80% of the nerves are actually
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pointing back up to the brain. Mm-hmm. And they're sending
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signals to brain regions that release GABA, for example, or glutamate.
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It could be inhibitory, like shushing things down, or it
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could be excitatory depending on the region of the brain.
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So the organs are communicating back to the brain on
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the state of the periphery. And we know that that's
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happening through 5-HT receptors, which are serotonin receptors, which you
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probably heard like serotonin, the happiness molecule. Wow. This is
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one of those things like when it gets repeated on
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the internet, it really pisses me off. Yeah, please correct this, please.
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Like they're like, oh, 95% of your serotonin is produced
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in your gut. And so they're then implying that that
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serotonin is like making its way into your brain and
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then making you happy. Serotonin can't cross the blood-brain barrier.
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That serotonin is not there to get to your brain.
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That serotonin is there to stimulate the 5-HT receptors. on
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the vagus nerve, all those little ending, like nerve endings
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in the intestines that are sending impulses back to the brain,
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communicating back to the brain and keeping things kind of
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balanced there, including like, hey, stay chilled out. And this
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is coming from gut bacteria, but it's also coming from
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enteroendocrine cells. Because if there's any one theme in the
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body is that there's redundancies in the system, which are
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probably there because they keep us from having a complete
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breakdown if we lose one of them. What role does
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the vagus nerve play in keeping them balanced? Because I
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know you can be overactive or underactive or one and
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the other. And if you are overactive in one or
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the other, what kind of problems will that cause? So
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if you're too much on sympathetic overdrive, then you're going
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to be anxious. If you have low vagal tone, You're
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going to have more inflammation. So you tend, there's going
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to be mental health issues. It could be anxiety, depression,
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but also tied to waking. Really? Yeah. Okay. Low vagal tone.
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So we're digging into the depth there. Inflammation. Yeah. Yeah,
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because you're getting leaky gut also. And how many people
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are out there who are stressed, who don't get enough sleep?
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or rushing, rushing, rushing, and always never taking a moment
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to breathe and just to do some breath work. Like
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that's one of the big things I teach my patients
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because one of the ways to activate the vagus nerve, uh,
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there's so many different biohacking ways, but one, one way
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without having to do a cold plunge or like put
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your dunk your face and in a, you know, a
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00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.880
bowl full of ice is right with you at all
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moments at any moment of the day. breath is breathing
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because through those stretch receptors in the lungs, especially when
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you take those really deep breaths, it activates the vagus,
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which is the parasympathetic, which is the ventral vagus, which
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is what I'm talking about that then balances out that
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heart rate variability. So if you're stressed because your flight
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just got delayed and you're at the airport and you're
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running late, then instead of letting that wire you up,
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just take some deep breaths. Yeah. Take some really deep breaths.
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But so many people don't know the power that they
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have within their body. I was lucky enough to discover
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this when I was 21 years old because I had
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gotten into medical school, right? That was my dream. I
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had been a straight-A student in high school, gone to
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Cornell undergrad. Like, you know, I was one of those competitive, like,
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really wanted to become a doctor. And then... I had
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to face the reality. I'm freaking scared of needles. So shit,
542
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how am I going to become a doctor if I
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can't be in a room with needles? Alcohol also, like
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rubbing alcohol makes me queasy. And needles, like I couldn't
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get my blood drawn. I couldn't get a shot without
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passing out. Wow. So it's like right before I get
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into medical school and I'm like telling my parents, I
548
00:33:28.339 --> 00:33:30.950
don't know if I want to do this. And they're like, oh, no, no, no.
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00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:36.069
I'm a child of the immigrant Cubans. Okay. You become
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a doctor, lawyer, or CPA. You better just toughen up. Yeah.
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They're like, you're going to do it. But the other
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good thing is that taking drugs for mental health issues
553
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is not in our philosophy. I love it. I was
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not raised that way. So I started looking into, well,
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what is happening to me When I'm at the doctor's
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office and I start feeling my heart rates going up,
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I start breaking out into a cold sweat. And then
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that moment of panic when suddenly it literally would look
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like a black curtain was coming over my eyes. And
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then the next thing I knew I was looking up
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and everybody's like reviving me. And I learned about the
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parasympathetic and sympathetic autonomic nervous system. Like, and this is like, again,
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me contrarian thinking, okay, it's automatic. How do I get
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it under my control? So it won't do this to me.
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That's when I discovered breath work, meditation, yoga, 21 years old, 1995,
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no internet. So I'm learning this from CD-ROMs and from
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books and practicing breath work. And in eight months, I
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completely restructured how my brain would react. to needles and
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by the time I got into medical school I was
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able to be in a room with needles get a
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shot be okay with it and having that journey that
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journey myself before I got indoctrinated by medical school there
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was no way that you could like unlearn the fact
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that I had shown myself that there is a power
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within the body that they don't want us to know
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yeah Oh, yeah. So are you insinuating that that's not
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a chemical imbalance with the need for Xanax? Is that
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what you're trying to tell me? How dare you? Thank
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you for the explanation. Brilliant. And where I was trying
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to go with that was to say, look, stress, anxiety,
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lack of sleep, there's a huge correlation with the vagus nerve,
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with our parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. And it's not
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this take medications and fix it. It is Let's take
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a look at ourselves and look at different ways we
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can do this by ourself and not rely on that
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because then we turn into zombies and that reliance becomes
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another reliance before you know it, you're on 10 different medications. Yeah,
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because you're taking one thing to undo the side effects
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from the other and then the side effects of the other.
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But anybody who's been through like major upset, heartache, divorce, breakup,
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you know, you get that pit in your stomach. Yeah. Yeah.
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You lose your appetite. Yeah. That is a physical manifestation
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of your vagus nerve shutting off. So for anybody who's listening,
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if you wonder, how do I know if my vagus
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nerve is not functioning? If you have a pit in
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your stomach, if you eat and food just sits there
597
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and it feels like it's not moving down, and you're
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a highly stressed person who doesn't get enough sleep, it's
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probably your vagus nerve. And that's it. And I think
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That for me, the reason, like I told you, I've
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told several people, I'm enrolled to come back to school
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to study neuroscience in January because I realize if I'm
603
00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:04.179
going to have this platform and I am going to
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00:37:04.409 --> 00:37:07.239
be like a beacon of hope for people to actually
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achieve real health, I need to know all of this.
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And I find that this, to me, after really revisiting it,
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00:37:14.179 --> 00:37:16.260
it's the neuro side and then the cellular side that
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I want to be an expert in so that I
609
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:23.820
can convey it. And like the, like, Crazy rates that
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Alzheimer's dementia is multiplying in this country worldwide. And it
611
00:37:28.909 --> 00:37:35.210
breaks my heart because people's parents are affected. And by
612
00:37:35.250 --> 00:37:39.769
the time you have dementia, what needs to be done
613
00:37:39.869 --> 00:37:43.610
to start to reverse it is nothing short of heroic measures.
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And that means that if your parent lives in another state,
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you don't have someone there to supervise them. It's going
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to be very tough because they're going to forget what
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you tell them. Right. I've seen my patients struggle with this.
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So the time to start is way back. Like if
619
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you're having word finding difficulties, if you're starting to have
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some memory issues, then you got to look at your
621
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gut health and you have to look at your mitochondrial health. Yep.
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I agree. Well, then let me ask you this because
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I do want to get to the coffee side, but
624
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I'm too now dug in on this. You're talking about
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00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:26.699
mitochondrial health. And so for you, coffee relates to mitochondria,
626
00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:30.460
by the way. There is a tie-in with coffee. No
627
00:38:30.500 --> 00:38:34.710
wonder my mitochondria is so strong. Then let me ask
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00:38:34.730 --> 00:38:39.210
you this. Some of your key methods for addressing mitochondrial health,
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and I want to ask you this too. One of
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the things that I can't stand is when people act like,
631
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as you get older, this is just part of it. Yes.
632
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Certain levels decline. I think that's natural. We know that,
633
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but you don't have to accept it. And I want
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you to talk about that, expound upon what are your
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key components to enhancing mitochondrial health. And as you age,
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you can certainly build very strong mitochondria. I know that.
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I know you know that, but I want you to
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explain how. Structure first. So you've got to dive down
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into the biochemistry of what mitochondria are, but what their
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membrane is. Because the membrane is actually serving as a
641
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little mini battery. It's an electron gradient. But that can't
642
00:39:26.420 --> 00:39:31.579
work properly if those membrane lipids... are messed up because
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you've been eating too many omega-6 fats, because you've been
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exposed to mycotoxins, because you've been exposed to pesticides, heavy metals,
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or even just like stress, the leaky gut from having
646
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a disordered gut microbiome and all that because we know
647
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that the one thing that distinguishes centenarians in their gut
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microbiome is that they have more anti-inflammatory bugs. So they
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actually are able to keep inflammation down in their gut.
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So back to the mitochondria, you have to start in
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the basics. The basic is the cellular structure, the membrane structure.
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Because if the membrane lipids are messed up, then the
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last step in that electron transport chain, complex four, which
654
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sits in that membrane, cytochrome C oxidase, it can't sit properly.
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And then the cell starts leaking electrons and you get
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more reactive oxygen species. You start affecting cellular voltage. And
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then everything starts getting messed up because now the cell
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is under oxidative stress. And even though a little bit
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of hormetic oxidative stress is good for the cell, like
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hydroxyl radicals that stimulate Nrf2 activation, so anti-inflammatory genes, too
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much is going to turn off that NF-kappa B pathway
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and it's going to augment inflammation in the cell. So
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if that complex can't sit properly in that membrane because
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those membrane lipids have been replaced by stiff omega-6 fats,
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then it's going to malfunction. And that complex four is
666
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the spark plug in the mitochondrial battery. I learned this
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a little while ago, but a lot of people don't
668
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really talk about it. And you mentioned it multiple times
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now is the cellular membranes. Can you explain just how
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important the cellular membrane is? And you were talking about
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like the lipid profile around it. That would correlate then
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to having good healthy fats in your diet to keep
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that strong, correct? And so. Super important. And I think
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a really good example is what happens, what I'm seeing
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happens when I start to replenish those membrane lipids with
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like phospholipids. Mm-hmm. And probably the best example is patients
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who are highly toxic. So I have a patient who
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came in with gut health issues that we have to
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work on, migraines, and then also had carpet that was
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20 some years old in her home, discovered mold in
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one of the walls, and also lives in an area
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where there's pesticides sprayed. So when we did her tox panel,
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it lit up everywhere. And I learned something really important
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with her because as I put her on the phospholipids,
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she became too toxic, got more migraines. But what that
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shows is that even just little bits of starting to
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repair that membrane, when you turn on those mitochondria that
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have been shut off, suddenly your cells start expelling all
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these toxins. Yep. And you have to do it in
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the right way or you overwhelm the person. And I've
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learned this now from working for a while with phospholipids
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that it really brings out how sensitive people are because
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a little bit can go a long way. But then
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I have a patient who was mold toxic, now no
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longer living in the moldy environment. And within four weeks
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of starting phospholipids was getting her memory back that she
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hasn't had in 10 years. What are phospholipids for people?
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They're basically the lipids that build the membrane. So every
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membrane has two layers and phospholipids have a negative and
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a positive charge. They kind of orient to each other
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and they create this nice bilayer membrane that's inside the mitochondria,
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but also on the outside of the cells. And what
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we want is a very fluid membrane. The more fluid,
704
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the better the communication, the better the DNA expression within
705
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the cell. The cell is able to control its redox reactions,
706
00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:18.920
meaning that it can then control the millivoltage inside the
707
00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:24.639
cell and become healthier. So it is the key. Even
708
00:44:24.699 --> 00:44:29.159
before other molecules, and we'll talk about things like, I
709
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.750
know you're a big fan of urolithinase, And urolithin A
710
00:44:31.769 --> 00:44:36.130
does things like activates AMPK expression, which then tells the
711
00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:43.969
cell like, hey, make new mitochondria, or it's also activating PGC1-alpha,
712
00:44:44.429 --> 00:44:47.650
which is another, it's like the switch in the nucleus
713
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:52.429
that turns on mitochondrial biogenesis so that we make new
714
00:44:52.489 --> 00:44:56.639
mitochondria and repair our mitochondria. And it turns out also
715
00:44:56.739 --> 00:45:01.500
that there are certain polyphenols in coffee, chlorogenic acids, that
716
00:45:01.860 --> 00:45:07.099
also turn on that AMPK signal. So same thing as
717
00:45:07.219 --> 00:45:10.219
urolithin A, but getting it from coffee, which kind of
718
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.389
ties in. It's so timely that this very week, there
719
00:45:14.429 --> 00:45:18.190
was an article that was just published, a scientific study
720
00:45:18.210 --> 00:45:23.369
had been going on for years, and it showed that
721
00:45:23.869 --> 00:45:26.110
people who drink coffee were 16% less likely to die
722
00:45:26.250 --> 00:45:34.789
of any cause. And 31% less likely to die of
723
00:45:34.869 --> 00:45:39.469
cardiovascular disease. All right. That's good to hear. Let's crank
724
00:45:39.530 --> 00:45:43.900
it up then. I love it. There's a few caveats,
725
00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:48.559
but this was a big study. It's the U.S. NANES
726
00:45:48.780 --> 00:45:52.440
database with over 40,000 people, and they've been monitoring them
727
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.090
from 1999 to 2018. Most people were monitored for a
728
00:45:57.110 --> 00:46:01.300
period of 10 years, and they found that drinking coffee
729
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.099
actually improves mortality. But with a caveat, the people who
730
00:46:07.139 --> 00:46:11.469
drank coffee in the afternoon later in the day negated
731
00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:14.449
those positive effects of the coffee. So it was only
732
00:46:14.489 --> 00:46:18.610
the morning coffee drinkers that got the greatest benefits. And
733
00:46:18.630 --> 00:46:22.329
it's probably because if you're drinking coffee too late in
734
00:46:22.349 --> 00:46:25.949
the day, then it's affecting your sleep. It's probably affecting
735
00:46:25.989 --> 00:46:29.329
your REM sleep. You know, I know... You talk to
736
00:46:29.369 --> 00:46:33.909
a lot of biohackers. So again, individuality, like if you
737
00:46:33.949 --> 00:46:37.789
want to don't believe it, like have coffee at 2 p.m.
738
00:46:37.809 --> 00:46:41.550
and use your aura ring or use whatever device you're
739
00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:44.489
using to track your sleep and see what does it
740
00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:46.179
do to your REM sleep? What does it do to
741
00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:52.179
your deep sleep? Not doing me any favors. Yeah. It's not.
742
00:46:52.219 --> 00:46:54.639
That's my own fault. Um, yeah, no, you're right. And
743
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.179
I'm guessing you're a fast metabolizer. Oh, she's like, you
744
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.500
could probably drink coffee at 10 PM and still go
745
00:47:00.539 --> 00:47:04.039
to bed. Oh, I'll pass out, but I don't sleep well. Yeah.
746
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.429
You know, I will pass out like this. I mean,
747
00:47:06.820 --> 00:47:10.469
drop of a dime, but it's not the best sleep.
748
00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:13.929
It's just not. So I have to try to scale
749
00:47:13.969 --> 00:47:16.969
it back. I try to stop before two 30. Um,
750
00:47:20.250 --> 00:47:22.369
I like to fast in the morning and I, of course,
751
00:47:22.409 --> 00:47:24.110
you know, I try to wait in the morning a
752
00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:26.079
little bit before I have it and everything. And I
753
00:47:26.099 --> 00:47:28.039
like to take it right before I go do cardio.
754
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.659
But then I start to like, I start inevitably what
755
00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:33.760
happens is I mean to have one go do cardio
756
00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:35.820
and then, you know, but the work just starts flowing,
757
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.820
the calls come in and I get going and then
758
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.239
it's two hours. So here's a question. How do you
759
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.010
make your coffee? Do you filter it? I arrow dress it. Okay. Yeah. So,
760
00:47:45.389 --> 00:47:49.889
so it's, so it's, uh, like a French press basically. Yeah. Yes.
761
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.760
better so i argue better so it's different so when
762
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.500
you when you do a pour over or you you
763
00:47:57.539 --> 00:48:01.079
run coffee through a filter the chlorogenic acids get through
764
00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:06.110
so remember chlorogenic acids activate ampk so they're also affecting
765
00:48:06.489 --> 00:48:11.230
and they also reduce mitochondrial reactive oxygen species so they're
766
00:48:11.269 --> 00:48:17.510
improving cellular health but it it will filter out the
767
00:48:17.550 --> 00:48:22.090
diterpenes in the coffee So the Cowell and the Cafistol,
768
00:48:22.869 --> 00:48:26.090
which you get when you do an Aeropress or a
769
00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:31.969
French press. And those are actually also activating the PGC1-alpha pathway,
770
00:48:32.389 --> 00:48:38.219
which is promoting regeneration of mitochondria, repair, getting rid of
771
00:48:38.260 --> 00:48:41.960
old mitochondria. So similar to the same thing that urolithin
772
00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:44.940
A is doing, because urolithin A is affecting the AMPK
773
00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:48.510
pathway as well as the PGC1. One alpha pathway, but
774
00:48:48.550 --> 00:48:50.300
you can do it by drinking a cup of coffee
775
00:48:50.340 --> 00:48:52.840
depending on how you brew it. Right. So am I
776
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:56.659
doing it okay then? So you're doing it good for you. Okay. Perfect.
777
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.500
I take the time to do it because it is
778
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.559
just delicious and I enjoy it. The only thing is
779
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:05.539
they say, and it doesn't really have like that huge
780
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.130
of an effect on cholesterol, but when you get the
781
00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:12.929
diterpenes in the coffee from doing a French press style
782
00:49:13.699 --> 00:49:15.670
Or from doing like a mocha pot, which is the
783
00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:18.090
way that my Cuban parents used to make coffee. Yeah.
784
00:49:18.570 --> 00:49:22.219
Then you're getting the dittropenes. that can raise LDL cholesterol,
785
00:49:22.699 --> 00:49:27.159
maybe like by 10, 14 points. Okay. So if you,
786
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.050
if you have high cholesterol and you're worried about that,
787
00:49:31.150 --> 00:49:33.110
then you might want to change the way you're making
788
00:49:33.130 --> 00:49:39.260
your coffee along with drinking organic, low toxin, like toxin free.
789
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:45.110
mold-free coffee. I started drinking coffee three, four years ago.
790
00:49:45.170 --> 00:49:47.489
I just never did. You know, my mom was a heavy,
791
00:49:47.909 --> 00:49:52.650
heavy coffee drinker and she was staying with us when
792
00:49:52.670 --> 00:49:54.659
my dad passed away. And that's when I kind of
793
00:49:54.949 --> 00:49:56.599
tried to, cause she was making it every day in
794
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.719
the stupid K cups. We're going to go there. Cause
795
00:49:59.739 --> 00:50:02.199
I want to talk about, you know, health wise and everything.
796
00:50:02.219 --> 00:50:05.079
Cause that's how I started. So for me, it was like, well,
797
00:50:05.539 --> 00:50:08.699
It's so nice and easy. I'll drink these and they're, Oh,
798
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.760
they got all these flavors. You know, you don't know
799
00:50:10.820 --> 00:50:15.079
anything about coffee or anything at all. I'm like, Whoa, Kahlua,
800
00:50:15.139 --> 00:50:17.019
you know, like, Oh, you're not, you're also not thinking
801
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.340
about how the coffee's getting burned from the concentrated hot
802
00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:23.420
water that's coming into the K cup. Oh, I just
803
00:50:23.460 --> 00:50:25.739
know it's easy. And it got a bunch of flavor
804
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.760
and the microplastics. Yeah. And that's where I wanted. That's
805
00:50:28.780 --> 00:50:31.179
where I'm going. So, I did that for like a
806
00:50:31.219 --> 00:50:33.010
year or two. Then I stopped drinking and I was like, ah,
807
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.000
it's starting to hurt my stomach. I don't feel good. Obviously,
808
00:50:36.059 --> 00:50:37.980
which we're going to get into, but you know, also
809
00:50:38.340 --> 00:50:40.909
the microplastics that you're getting from the K cup. So
810
00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:45.630
they've shown this in studies. It actually disintegrates the mucus
811
00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:50.269
layer in the gut. Really? So imagine for anybody listening,
812
00:50:50.309 --> 00:50:52.949
like what is the mucus layer? Imagine like a medieval
813
00:50:52.989 --> 00:50:56.150
castle and the moat around the castle. The moat was
814
00:50:56.210 --> 00:51:00.489
designed to protect the castle creates a barrier. So in
815
00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:02.690
the same way, if the wall of the castle is
816
00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:07.780
our gut lining, the moat is the mucus layer. And
817
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.659
if you break down that mucus layer, then it's easy
818
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:16.360
for bad things to get in like endotoxins, LPS, inflammatory
819
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.579
substances from the gut, because then you start breaking down.
820
00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:23.039
As soon as the mucus layer breaks down, then you
821
00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:26.829
lose that buffer zone. with the bacteria inside the gut
822
00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:29.889
then the next thing that breaks down is the gut
823
00:51:29.949 --> 00:51:33.920
lining so when you're drinking that coffee from a k-cup
824
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.579
or if you're going to whatever coffee shop and picking
825
00:51:37.619 --> 00:51:40.800
up a coffee to go in those plastic lined cups
826
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.880
you're messing with your gut mucus layer which is then
827
00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:46.519
going to cause leaky gut which is going to lead
828
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.599
to inflammation and it's going to disrupt the gut uh
829
00:51:50.469 --> 00:51:53.550
gut flora leading to even more inflammation. Well, what do
830
00:51:53.570 --> 00:51:56.099
you say to the people that then say, well, just
831
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.820
get the one that's non-plastic and you dump the grounds
832
00:51:58.860 --> 00:52:00.579
in at the other cup. Like, what is it? I
833
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.360
don't even know. You know what I'm talking about. You
834
00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:06.650
mean like a steel? What do you say? What is that?
835
00:52:06.989 --> 00:52:08.969
I mean, you still have to think about like, well,
836
00:52:09.590 --> 00:52:13.289
what is the hot water running through inside the machine?
837
00:52:13.309 --> 00:52:16.639
Is it still plastic parts? Because then you're not fully...
838
00:52:16.940 --> 00:52:20.639
you know, escaping the exposure to microplastics. Among them, it
839
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.110
just doesn't taste that great, but that's a whole other story.
840
00:52:23.510 --> 00:52:26.429
Once I transitioned into biohacking from what I was doing,
841
00:52:26.809 --> 00:52:28.829
then of course, the first type of coffee I saw
842
00:52:28.869 --> 00:52:31.210
was Dave's. It's the most popular and talked about. So
843
00:52:31.690 --> 00:52:34.340
that's where I learned about that. I started to study
844
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:36.900
coffee more and learn about, you know, the things that
845
00:52:36.940 --> 00:52:39.119
we're getting into now and talking. And I said, okay,
846
00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:41.599
I know what I need to do now. Switch to
847
00:52:41.619 --> 00:52:43.619
the coffee. I ordered his. Great. I found about the
848
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.059
AeroPress there. Phenomenal. Great. Tastes phenomenal. But then it was like, okay,
849
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.699
I'm getting a little bored. And I'm sure that there's
850
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.440
other things out there. And so that's when I started
851
00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:55.460
to try different mold-free coffees. And I want you to
852
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.099
talk about mold-free organic, what all of that means. Because
853
00:52:58.139 --> 00:52:59.760
a lot of the things you read, it's like, well,
854
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.539
it says it's organic, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's okay.
855
00:53:03.070 --> 00:53:04.909
So I want you to talk about that. But then
856
00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:08.820
that's I got into that realm of let's try these.
857
00:53:08.860 --> 00:53:11.280
Let's see how they're different. What sets them apart? What
858
00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:14.239
makes my stomach feel good and whatnot? And then that's
859
00:53:14.260 --> 00:53:16.179
when I found yours. And that's why I say it.
860
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.019
I'm not saying that because you're here. I wanted you
861
00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:20.699
here because it is my favorite. And I want to
862
00:53:20.739 --> 00:53:22.820
talk about it because I wanted to put you in
863
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.380
front of people because I believe in it. I don't
864
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.429
get anything out of it except the pleasure of drinking
865
00:53:28.469 --> 00:53:30.969
that shit because it's so phenomenal. And that's why I
866
00:53:31.010 --> 00:53:33.539
want people to see you. But I want to talk
867
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:35.960
about what I just brought up, the difference between mold
868
00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:40.079
and organic. But what is it that you do to
869
00:53:40.139 --> 00:53:45.590
yours that makes it taste... Coffee all has a little
870
00:53:45.610 --> 00:53:48.250
bit similar taste, but there's different roasts, there's different flavors,
871
00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:50.309
but there's just... I don't know how to explain what
872
00:53:50.349 --> 00:53:53.510
it is with yours. It's not... I don't know what
873
00:53:53.550 --> 00:53:55.170
it is. I want you to tell me, what is it?
874
00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:59.530
Why is it so freaking good to me? Well, one,
875
00:53:59.949 --> 00:54:03.599
it's organic. Uh-huh. Right. So and we we send the
876
00:54:03.659 --> 00:54:08.719
coffee to get tested for mycotoxins, pesticides of all sorts,
877
00:54:08.780 --> 00:54:10.559
even though it's organic. I just wanted to make sure
878
00:54:10.940 --> 00:54:14.349
tested for glyphosate and also for heavy metals, even though
879
00:54:14.409 --> 00:54:17.070
the coffee plant isn't one that picks up heavy metals
880
00:54:17.150 --> 00:54:19.690
as much as like the cocoa plant. Like you probably
881
00:54:19.730 --> 00:54:22.949
heard of all the heavy metals and different chocolate brands
882
00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:25.949
out there like the lead and the cadmium. Terrible. So
883
00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:28.420
but I just wanted to be safe and check for that.
884
00:54:29.110 --> 00:54:32.389
But part of it is the choice of the beans.
885
00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:36.070
And then the next thing is how the beans are combined.
886
00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:40.659
And the final part is how the beans are roasted.
887
00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:45.079
So the roaster that I'm working with right now uses
888
00:54:45.099 --> 00:54:50.969
a very fancy German air roaster. The majority of coffee
889
00:54:51.130 --> 00:54:53.230
in the United States is drum roasted, so it means
890
00:54:53.269 --> 00:54:56.889
that the coffee beans are coming into direct contact with
891
00:54:56.909 --> 00:55:00.010
the heat surface. Whereas in an air roaster, the coffee
892
00:55:00.030 --> 00:55:03.070
beans are actually being circulated, the air, and they're getting
893
00:55:03.090 --> 00:55:07.960
roasted through convection, but they're not ever coming into contact
894
00:55:08.019 --> 00:55:11.460
with the really hot surface. So there's no chance of
895
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:17.170
overcooking the outside of the bean, burning the bean, or
896
00:55:17.710 --> 00:55:21.869
generating things like advanced glycosylation end products, which are aging, uh,
897
00:55:23.190 --> 00:55:26.610
products that come from over cooking the bean or burning
898
00:55:26.659 --> 00:55:29.000
the outside of the bean. And you also get like
899
00:55:29.179 --> 00:55:31.420
off gassing. Like when you're roasting the beans, you get
900
00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:35.199
these polar aromatic hydrocarbons. And when you're in the air roaster,
901
00:55:35.300 --> 00:55:38.639
it's able to off gas it away from the beans.
902
00:55:38.699 --> 00:55:42.860
So then the final product is very clean. But I,
903
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.159
I went a step further because the facility that I
904
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:50.519
work with only uses organic beans. So there's no chance
905
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.159
for cross contamination inside the the machines. But then in
906
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.679
order to choose this roast, and I don't know, maybe
907
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.929
I have, I must have a really good palate. Or
908
00:56:00.989 --> 00:56:03.110
maybe we have the same palate. It must be, I
909
00:56:03.130 --> 00:56:06.550
don't know. I went, I flew out there and I
910
00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:09.070
did a blind taste test so that I would not
911
00:56:09.170 --> 00:56:14.969
be biased. Yeah. To see which combination I like the best.
912
00:56:15.389 --> 00:56:18.780
And that's how we came up with this newest roast,
913
00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:22.380
the Happy Gut Coffee, which is a combination of Ethiopian, Colombian,
914
00:56:22.900 --> 00:56:27.199
In Guatemalan beans. I'm telling you. Because you sent me
915
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:28.889
to try the new one when it came out. Because
916
00:56:28.949 --> 00:56:31.449
I was just stuck on your old one. And I
917
00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:34.769
told you immediately. I was like, dude. Because I even
918
00:56:34.829 --> 00:56:36.670
tried them back to back. Because I just. I was
919
00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:38.210
so nervous. I got to tell you, I was so
920
00:56:38.250 --> 00:56:41.820
nervous when you were going to call me. Because I'm like. Oh, man,
921
00:56:41.860 --> 00:56:46.639
because you were so in love with our original roast. Yeah.
922
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.960
And I decided to, you know, go with a different roaster,
923
00:56:51.699 --> 00:56:56.050
create a new operation, and bring in, you know, because
924
00:56:56.070 --> 00:56:59.550
I think what makes this one a bit different is
925
00:56:59.590 --> 00:57:01.730
the Ethiopian beans because they bring a bit of a
926
00:57:01.929 --> 00:57:08.340
floral and fruity overtone to the earthiness of the Colombian
927
00:57:08.380 --> 00:57:10.239
and the Guatemalan beans. It's a good balance. It's not
928
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.639
too much. It's a really good balance. And that's, so,
929
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:15.739
you know, you know how this is too. When you
930
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.610
have something that you do a long time and you
931
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.289
love it and you do it and then something new,
932
00:57:19.349 --> 00:57:22.329
it's like, oh wow, that was so good. You know,
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and that happens. So I had to temper that. So
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what I did was, is I did that first initially
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and then I told Queenie, my wife, I said, okay,
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let's set this, let's make sure of this now. Let's
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make sure I'm not just overreacting because it's something new.
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Let's make one. I'm glad you don't call me and
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tell me like when you're about to do this. I
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would have to do some deep breath work and activate
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my vagus nerve, make sure my mitochondria are working well. Well,
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you know what, though? If I am not honest with
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a friend and tell you I don't care, you know
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what I mean? And so I am honest to a
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fault when it comes to something like this, especially because
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you need to know. And I was just like, okay.
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And I did it again today. I had your old
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one because I kind of am saving some, you know.
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I had that one first and then I had this
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one second. And I said, damn it. I said, I
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love the first one so much. And I stocked up
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on it when you were going out of it. I
953
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got like five, six bags of it, but I'm telling you,
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this one's better. It really is. And that's, it's fascinating too,
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to see how, when you got something that you think
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you can't make any better, you make it better. And
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that tells me a lot about a person that's willing
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to do that. Well, my stuff is excellent, but I
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know I can make it better. You know what? Also,
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like we started, um, In the beginning, talking about mind-body connection, energy,
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the intention that we hold, the work of Masudo Emoto
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and how you can imprint emotion into things. The team
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that roasts this coffee for me is like Snow White's
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Seven Dwarfs, like Whistle While You Work. Really? They are
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the most positive, happy team They treat their employees well.
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They're just like positivity. Every time I communicate with them,
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it's all like elevated positive. And that's why I knew
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I wanted to work with them. And it was a
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matter of just coming up with the brew that I
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was going to be happy with because I'm probably as
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much of a coffee snob as you are. And I
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also didn't drink coffee for big parts of my life.
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And before I launched Happy Gut Coffee, I had stopped
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drinking coffee for seven years. Wow. I didn't touch coffee.
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That's weird, isn't it? Then to just go start making it. Well,
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it's part of my culture. Ah, okay. My Cuban culture
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is like. There was a reason though that you did this, obviously.
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I mean, Simon's always right. Combination of things like you can't.
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take people away from coffee. No, but when you start
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looking at the benefits of coffee and what it does,
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the polyphenols in coffee activate the L cells in the
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intestines that produce and secrete GLP one. Hey, you can
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make your own GLP one by drinking clean coffee. Yeah, absolutely.
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There's a lot of correlation with so much. I just
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had a, um, heavy metal test and then it looked
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at all different aspects so it went 0 to 7
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0 meaning you don't need any help on this 7
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you pretty messed up right my mitochondria and my polyphenol
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scores were all 0 like no don't need any help
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whatsoever so that made me feel pretty damn good I
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had some other areas that were bothersome we just moved
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into a new house and I can't remember which one
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it was but there was like some toxicity in one
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of my scores and I'm assuming that's probably what it
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was but um With this, it's called Happy Gut. Obviously,
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you're a gut expert, but why is it Happy Gut?
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What about your coffee and your products? Because I use
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a product of yours. You started me on it when
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I met you. I've had it on auto ship ever since,
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and it's a gut powder that you have. So what
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is it about this that makes a happy gut, your
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coffee and your brand? I mean, let's start with the
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fact that it doesn't have any of the crap that
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can be poisonous to your gut or your body. Yep.
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But then it's the way that it's made. So coffees
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that are high in chlorogenic acid, which yes, is a
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polyphenol that has a lot of benefits like we talked about,
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like it helps to activate mitochondrial biogenesis. But chlorogenic acid
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also stimulates the parietal cells in the stomach to secrete
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hydrochloric acid. So basically it gives you heartburn. And it
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gives you that sour stomach feeling. So the way that
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we make the coffee with the air roaster reduces the
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chlorogenic acid to a level where it makes it more
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comfortable to drink, while at the same time not losing
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all of the chlorogenic acid because we want those polyphenols
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in there to benefit your mitochondria, to stimulate GLP-1 secretion,
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for all the other bioactive amines that are in the coffee.
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And we do that by doing a, we sort of
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cheat because we don't go full dark roast with this
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new one. We go just a little bit below the
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dark roast, medium to dark. So we can get those
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chlorogenic acids out that are causing that sour stomach, heartburn feeling,
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acid reflux while still keeping the benefits. Brother, man, like
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literally the abundance of information. I knew you were smart.
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I obviously knew that, but I didn't. I think you
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even brought some things to me that kind of caught
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me off guard. Not that I didn't expect that, but
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so well-rounded and versatile. If you knew how much I
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love that and how much I try to pride myself
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on being that, and I'm nowhere near your league of
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expertise on any of this, but I appreciate your ability
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to be so versatile, well-rounded, and offer different aspects and
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ideas of all the aspects of health. While you are
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a specialist, you know everything. a lot about of a lot.
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And I really, really appreciate the heck out of you
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sharing it coming here. And I want everybody to see that.
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So tell everybody the best places to follow you, find you,
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where can they check you out? Instagram at Dr. Pedre,
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D-R Pedre. They can find my books on Amazon or
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anywhere where books are sold. And they can learn more
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about the coffee at happygutcoffee.com. Trust me, everybody. Trust me.
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This is the goat of coffee. I say that. I
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say that with being one of the biggest, my white,
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my white beard. Yeah, exactly. Well, Vincent, man, dude, thank
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you so much for coming. It was a pleasure to
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say the least to have you here and to have
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this conversation. I'm, we're going to talk more off camera
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about some of this stuff because it's mind blowing. But anyway,
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thank you again. Happy got coffee. I can't recommend that enough,
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but I'll be on the coffee. Just check him out.
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Learn a lot about of a lot. So, That being said,
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stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli, signing off.
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am over the moon about my guest today. I'm going
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to tell you why. But first, I want to list
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some of his credentials because he's known for his company.
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But I think that you're going to be in awe
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of the knowledge that he has. And we're going to
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dig into every aspect that I can. I'm going to
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drain him this hour that I have him here. So
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he's a board certified internist. He's a functional medicine expert.
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He's well known for doing so many different types of specialties,
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whether it be gut health, brain optimization. We're going to
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talk about cellular health with him today. We're going to
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overcome some of the different issues I've seen out there
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on mitochondrial discussion. We're going to do it all. And
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I can't wait to get into all of that. He's
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got some tremendous books that, as you can see, featured
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right here. If you're on video that I've got sitting
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out in front of me, Gut Smart Protocol, Happy Gut.
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I would highly, highly urge you to watch these. But
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he's also the founder of Happy Gut Coffee, which I
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will get into in just a minute, but my friends,
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welcome Vincent Pedri, MD. I'm stoked to be here, man.
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Thank you so much for being here. Ever since I
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met you, brother, like I knew there was something good
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about you. For people listening, I met Vincent kind of
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on accident really at, it was at HOS in Austin
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at the biohacking convention. And I just happened to be
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going by and I am a coffee snob and Saw it.
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I thought, well, let's give it a shot. I try
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all of these and I go in there kind of
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even tempered. I, you know, there's everybody makes promises and I,
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he's the gold standard for my coffee drinking. Literally. I
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told him the other day, I said, brother, I said,
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I want to make your day today. I said, I
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try all of these different coffees. I, I get approached
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by people that want me to try them and I
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have to compare them to yours. And they always fail.
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Don't let Dave Asprey know that. I'm sorry. I love you, Dave.
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And I love your coffee. It's second on my list.
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But it's just, there's something about what you've done here.
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So we're going to get into all of that. But
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thanks again for coming to see me. I know it's
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not easy to just get up and fly and leave.
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And you did right away. And I just really appreciate it. 100%. 100%.
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I would do it a thousand times for you. I
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appreciate it, brother. Well, let's dig in. You know, I
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know you're known for the coffee. We're going to get
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into the coffee because I want to talk about health
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benefits and different aspects of coffee. But I want to
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get in more to what you do and focus on
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because you do a lot. You put out a lot
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of content. You talk about a lot of different aspects
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of health. You're not a coffee guy by any stretch.
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You're a genius. And so I want to talk about
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all of those things that you get into. So let's
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start with this. What are some of your key areas
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of expertise that you like to focus on that you
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feel are the most important for our health and longevity?
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Oh man, the gut is the foundation, right? Like I've
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been preaching that for over 10 years. The gut is
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like the root system of our tree. If our body
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is like a tree, the roots are what make the
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tree healthy or make the tree sick. And for us,
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it's a digestive system. The truth is though, like, I'm
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now starting to dial back and look, well, what's behind
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even that? And if you start pulling back the curtain
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and looking behind that, you know what you find is
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mitochondria and cellular health. And it's behind everything, including the
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health of the gut lining. And then that determines everything
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else because if your gut is not well, then you're
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not gonna break down protein. You're not gonna absorb amino acids.
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You're not gonna be able to build muscle tissue. And
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we know that muscle is longevity, but you can't have
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muscle if you're not breaking down protein and absorbing those
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amino acids. It's something that I see over and over.
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And it's not that I'm trying to be like, hey,
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the gut first, then muscle. But if you want muscle,
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then you need a healthy gut. Like I struggle to
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put on muscle weight For most of my life. That was,
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I used to get made fun of for being skinny
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when I was in high school. And that's when my
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I was eating all the wrong things, eating like three
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like people who are sensitive to gluten, for example, gluten
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absorbs a lot of water with it. It's very hydrophilic.
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it's really water weight, like you're becoming less puffy. But
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then my goal was to build muscle. And that took
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those tight junctions. But what I didn't realize is that
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my high stress lifestyle had shut off my vagus nerve
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started taking a digestive enzyme, increasing protein, because also we
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all think we're eating enough protein and most of us
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do not get enough protein, but it doesn't matter if
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have the digestive power to break that protein down so
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that you can get the amino acids. So when I
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So it's been, It's been a long journey and a
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lot of the stuff that I've become interested in has
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been things that were related to my own personal health journey.
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gut issues as a child going into my 20s, started
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getting skin rashes, eczema, lots of brain fog. Turned out
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the brain fog was actually the wheat, the gluten. Really?
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Was causing the brain fog. And when I cut out
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the wheat, My brain started sharpening. Then fast forward, you know,
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this is like, I'm in my mid thirties when I
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went through this whole thing, cutting out gluten, fixing my
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gut microbiome, learning about the microbiome for the first time,
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because they didn't teach us that in medical school. It's
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almost like they didn't teach us the most essential things
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that we need for our health in medical school. They
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taught us how to prescribe drugs, right? Basically. And then
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they threw out all the biochemistry with it. And they're like,
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just give people these drugs fast forward, you know, and
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as you become older, then you start becoming more interested
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in longevity. And if you're interested in longevity, then you
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need to understand mitochondria, right? Because mitochondria are determining the,
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the health of the cell. So it's even become, you know,
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going even more granular because the gut is the foundation.
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If you're building a house, you don't build a house
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without a foundation. If you're building your health, you bypass
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the gut. You have a very weak foundation. That house
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is going to come crumbling down at some point. But
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if you go granular, you see that behind that it's
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mitochondria and cellular health right so i i always say
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that disease i mean inflammation obviously is a big cause
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of all the disease but i say it kind of
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starts and ends in the cells and people don't really
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think about that then you look deeper and it's mitochondria
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health and people i think That it's not really discussed
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aside from like in our communities and more in detail
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biohacking communities. But you go to regular doctors or practitioners,
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they don't really talk about anything cellular or anything like that.
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about that. And they've forgotten about redox science and how
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important it is to actually that every cell is like
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a battery. And that battery is healthiest. When it's at
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negative 70 to 90 millivolts. And as you age, you
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get sicker. You start getting more oxidation inside the cell.
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It starts to break down. That battery starts to drop. Yeah.
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then 15. And that's where you start getting autoimmunity, cancer,
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all sorts of disruption because your DNA can't be expressed
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properly when the cell voltage is off. Yeah. And who's
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controlling the cell voltage? The mitochondria. Right. And I can't
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remember who it was I was talking to. I said,
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how many cells do we have in our body? I mean,
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it's such an insane amount. I mean, it was like trillions, right?
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you're having cellular issues, I mean, think about how many
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are within you and the function and control that they have.
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many people now I'm privy to that information that I
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see what they're teaching them in school. And so I
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don't really blame the doctors because they're just doing what
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they're taught and what they're told. And if you're paying
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hundreds of thousand dollars to go to school and that's
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what you're being told, what are you supposed to think?
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There's also so much to cover that it, it took
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me having that foundation, but then it took me going
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the next level and always asking, well, what else? Yeah.
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What am I missing? Where is the truth here? Because
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the truth can't be that we're just pumping people with
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drugs and just telling them, keep eating your pizza, keep
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eating your fries, keep having those omega-6 oils. That can't
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be the truth. No. I was in the hospital a
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few months ago and there was a heart-healthy menu. And
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if you would have seen what was on this heart-healthy menu,
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I looked at my wife and I was laying there
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and I said, Is this reality? It's a chicken parmesan
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tortellini margarine dinner rolls. This is all on the heart
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healthy menu. I am not lying. I took snapshots of it.
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what they would even say is heart healthy and then
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give to patients that were in there. I was in
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the cardiology area, you know, when this happened, when I
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had an episode and I thought, good thing I know
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what I'm doing, you know, and I'm having them bring
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me in salmon and foods and my own things and
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things to eat that were actually heart healthy. But, you know,
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why why is it do you feel when you go
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to the doctor, they come up with this term idiopathic?
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means we really don't know, but they don't dig and
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they don't look for anything. They don't test for anything.
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Heavy metals, toxins, they don't look at cellular health. They
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don't look at anything. They don't look at the gut.
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What they're saying is that I don't have a language
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for this. Okay. It's outside of the scope of the
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tools that we have. You know, because what I tell
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patients is you're not going to find what you don't
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look for. Right. So if you don't look for heavy
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metals that are hidden in your body, you're not going
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to find them. Right. But you may do a blood count,
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you may do liver-kidney function, and they might all look normal.
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than really amazing thought leaders from back in the 90s,
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like Deepak Chopra, Andrew Weil, Mark Hyman, was really being
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able to, not feeling satisfied with saying that this is idiopathic,
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like wanting to know, well, is it really? Or is
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there something else? going on here? Is there something that
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we're missing? And I don't know where that came from.
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I was thinking recently, where does my contrarian thinking come from?
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I really think it's my dad. My dad was not
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a doctor. He was an engineer. He questioned everything, even
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including politics. He questioned the stories that we were told.
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He even had a book I remember called Contrarian Investing.
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like how to invest in the stock market in a
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way that most people don't. So I think that trickled
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into me and my upbringing and made me a contrarian
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doctor looking for the things that most people aren't looking.
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And really, functional medicine is looking at the stones that
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were left unturned by others. And because I tend to
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see people downstream after they've been to four or five,
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seven doctors... I have the benefit of learning, and this
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is what I've been doing for years, is listening very
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carefully and learning from what all the other doctors did
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that didn't solve the problem. So then I have to ask,
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what else? What else is going on here that they
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didn't think of? I find it strange, troubling, intriguing that
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the people that most anybody, if you ask who's the
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smartest person that you've ever heard of or thought of,
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most people say something like Einstein. You get some people
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that know philosophers or everything. They'll bring up other people
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that are philosophers. I don't know. Socrates. I'm not a
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big philosopher. I don't know. But I do know that
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they're going to be bringing up names like that. And
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then I say to myself, What separates them from everybody
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else that we know? They questioned everything. They questioned anything
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and everything, and that's how they figured out new things.
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Just like when we develop technologies, don't you think when
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we went from VCR to DVD to Blu-ray, there were
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a lot of questions asked as to how can we
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fix this or do this? There's got to be a
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way or a mechanism. And what really distinguished them, which
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Robert Greene wrote in his book Mastery, was that when
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they hit an obstacle, Something that where humanity hadn't gone
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before and something hadn't been thought that way, they didn't stop. Right.
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They continued asking the question, figuring it out. Einstein, Benjamin Franklin,
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Isaac Newton, you know, all of those thought leaders. The
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commonality is that they didn't stop when they hit the obstacle.
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They kept looking. Because there has to be another way.
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There always has to be different ways. There's cures for everything.
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They're out there. We're seeing it. Like, look at where
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medical knowledge is now. like advanced medical knowledge in the
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functional medicine realm, but also the science, like where it
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is today compared to where it was 20 years ago,
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huge jump, huge jump. And yet at the same time,
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like when I think about like where things are jumping to,
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you know, like with biohackers and all the things that
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we're doing, we're losing a little bit of the details, right?
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In place of, you know, the shiny objects. Yeah. Right.
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something that patients do for you is they keep you
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humble and they keep you connected to the pulse of
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what it really takes to make somebody healthy, because what makes,
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what it takes to make you healthy will be slightly
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different than what it takes to make the next person healthy.
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even though we can make some big generalities like, hey,
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like don't eat crap food. Don't eat processed foods. Yeah,
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let's start there. That's the basics. But then there's all
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these little details that when you, because I work with
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people who are pretty sick, you start realizing like, okay, yeah,
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this person. So I've got to restructure, like refine, like
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how is it that I need to approach this case
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slightly differently because they're not responding in the way I
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would expect them to. You can ask my wife this
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and anybody that else that's ever around me a lot.
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One of the key things and factors when I know
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first things that they say is that Just because it
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works for you does not necessarily mean it's going to
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work for the next. There are so many different things
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that fall into that, whether it's age, whether it's family history, allergies.
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million things and that as a good doctor, as a
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good practitioner, health coach, whatever, it is your job to
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ask the proper questions and to know the needs and
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necessities of who you're working with. And the people that
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do this, they're either stuck in their ways. They have
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this one set mentality. And you even see it with diets,
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you know, whether it's the keto people, the carnivore people,
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the high carb people, and they argue and they fight
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and they make it this big thing. And then they
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start calling each other names. I mean, it's it's absolutely insane.
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that continues to be polarized. It doesn't help anybody. What
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helps people are the people like you that are willing
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to say, hey. it might be a little different for
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you it might be a little bit different for you
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let's look let's find let's figure it out let's work
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on this everything in life is trial and error i
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don't care it is it is from the moment you're
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born to the moment you die it's trial and error
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we're making educated guesses yes and The thing that someone
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like me brings to the table is that I've had
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a lot of experience. I've seen all the ways that
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things can go. I've seen when they don't go so well. Yeah. Um,
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but even then, like we're still working with a chaotic system,
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that chaotic system being your body, human body is like
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this incredible quantum force with like an ecosystem. that is
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operating in ways that sometimes you can't fully predict because
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there are many influences on what is creating the outer
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picture of health that we are seeing in a person
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or on wellness. One of the things I'm focusing on
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right now that you've brought up a little bit earlier,
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we talked about off camera, is the mind-body connection and
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that correlation to build full health. Because I feel like
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I've said this multiple times, and I think I told
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you this too, that I spent so many years focusing
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on the fitness side, the nutrition side, the things that
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I was really into, which of course, I mean, that's
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one of the key halves here, but I totally just
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left out the correlation and the importance of the mind,
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the neuroscience side of it, and how that really is
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the other aspect of now we've got the true foundation
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for our health. There's going to be things along the
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way that we got to address that are going to
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be down the line of importance that are all highly important.
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But if you're not optimized in that regard, I don't
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think you can really do much of anything else in totality.
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You know what I mean? Just like you were saying, well,
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if your gut's having issues, you're not going to be
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able to build the muscle, right? And the foundation. But
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if you don't believe... that making these changes are going
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to help you. So it's bottom up, top down. You
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don't believe that this is going to help you and
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that it's not worth doing the sacrifices, putting in the work,
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then nothing's going to work, right? So mind-body connection, I mean,
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we know from this book, Molecules of Emotion, that our
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white blood cells have neurotransmitter receptors so they can feel
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our thoughts. So we are controlling even how our immune
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system is behaving. We know that people with a positive
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mental attitude have better outcomes when it comes to cancer
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treatments than ones that don't. So there's something there. And
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whenever I'm working with people, and I've written about it
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in both of my books, like in my first book,
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it was a 20-day gut reset. And as part of that,
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I tell people, I want you to journal, and you're
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going to write a daily gratitude. We know that people
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who write a daily gratitude, like when they write down
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what you're grateful for on a daily basis, it creates
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a greater sense of positivity and that then translates to
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better health in general. Then think about the work of
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Masaru Emoto. We are 70% water. Masaru Emoto studied, he
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was a Japanese scientist who studied the effects of what
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happens if you take a glass of water. and you
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project an emotion to that water, and then you instantly
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freeze it in that moment. And you look at the
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crystals that form, he got, and this was repeated over
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and over, like over multiple experiments and they still have, um,
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he passed away, but they still have the Institute in
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Japan when the water received love and gratitude. it formed
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the most beautiful crystals, the most ornate crystals. If the
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water had anger projected at it, the crystals became disordered.
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They broke down. They didn't have all the nice edges
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and shape that you see in a snowflake. And he
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did this over and over. Well, what are we holding
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in our bodies? Are you holding gratitude, love? Or are
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you holding a lot of anger, resentment? And I think
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you can't separate the two. And I've never seen them
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as separate. Like when someone is coming in and working
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with me, we're working at the physical level. But very
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early on, I'm already paying very close attention to the
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words that they use, their attitude. Like your words create
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your reality, right? If you're speaking a lot of negative words,
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if you're speaking words of doubt, then that's the reality
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that you're creating. And that's something that I've tried to
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impart on my son is teaching him the power of
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words because those words are what you are holding in
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your field. And then that's what you project outwards. But
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then it's affecting things like the vagus nerve. Yeah. I
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want to hear about that because I've started to study
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that and learn more about the actual effects that has
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on everything. And it's kind of been mind blowing to
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me on what exactly it does and controls. Would you
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just mind kind of given like a simple breakdown first
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of what it even is and then like the power
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that it has over our health and our our minds
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and everything that we do? I really want like a
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nice little detailed synopsis from you of that, please. I
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talk a lot about it in my second book, The
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Gut Smart Protocol. I always put into my books the
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things that I've feel that I want people to do,
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though people always want, well, what's the diet? What do
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I do to fix myself physically? And then the other
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stuff is always kind of like an addition to like meditation, mindfulness,
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breath work, all of that. The vagus nerve is kind
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of like that interface between the mind, the body, and
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the breath. It starts in the brainstem and it goes...
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all the way down across the neck. Vagus comes from
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Latin meaning lazy because it is the longest nerve in
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the body, like a lazy river. And it innervates every
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single organ underneath the neck. So the lungs, the heart,
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the intestine, the spleen, the liver, all of that is
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innervated by the vagus nerve. The vagus nerve is controlling
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things like heart rate variability. And it's controlling it by
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how balanced Your sympathetic drive is with your parasympathetic drive.
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And it actually has two branches. This is a really
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interesting part to the vagus is that it has a
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primitive branch. It's called the dorsal vagus. So when we're
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talking about vagus, like when usually when I'm talking about
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the vagus nerve, I'm talking about the ventral branch that
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is innervating the heart, the lungs, the intestines. But then
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you have a dorsal branch, which is more connected to
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the reptilian part of the brain. And that's that part
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that we call the freeze response. So you fight, flight,
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or you freeze. Well, freeze is not a sympathetic response.
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It's actually a vagal response. It's the primitive vagus. And
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that's the deactivated vagus. So that's when you don't want
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to get out of bed. You're depressed. Your mood is low.
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We know from studies that They've done vagal nerve stimulation
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on treatment-resistant depression patients who were on failed two drugs.
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And they did vagal nerve stimulation. 37% of those recovered. Wow.
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Just by reactivating the vagus nerve. So stuff like that
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tells you within 30 minutes of a traumatic brain injury,
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if you're in an accident, you could get your head hit,
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vagus nerve shuts off. And you get leaky gut because
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we needed those impulses. So I, so Vegas is another
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one where you've got top down and you've got down up.
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So top down sending an impulse, we call it the
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vagal tone. And that's almost like telling your body like, Hey,
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everything's okay. You can chillax. It's kind of like, I
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don't know if you go back to when we actually
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had landline phones that had a dial tone. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
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so it's kind of like that dial tone when you
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picked up the phone. Yeah. It's telling your body everything's okay. Like,
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keep making stomach acid. Keep moving food down the digestive tract.
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Keep those tight junctions intact because partly that's dependent on
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the vagus. But the other direction is probably the most
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important because, like, 70%, 80% of the nerves are actually
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pointing back up to the brain. Mm-hmm. And they're sending
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signals to brain regions that release GABA, for example, or glutamate.
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It could be inhibitory, like shushing things down, or it
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could be excitatory depending on the region of the brain.
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So the organs are communicating back to the brain on
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the state of the periphery. And we know that that's
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happening through 5-HT receptors, which are serotonin receptors, which you
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probably heard like serotonin, the happiness molecule. Wow. This is
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one of those things like when it gets repeated on
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the internet, it really pisses me off. Yeah, please correct this, please.
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Like they're like, oh, 95% of your serotonin is produced
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in your gut. And so they're then implying that that
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serotonin is like making its way into your brain and
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then making you happy. Serotonin can't cross the blood-brain barrier.
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That serotonin is not there to get to your brain.
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That serotonin is there to stimulate the 5-HT receptors. on
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the vagus nerve, all those little ending, like nerve endings
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in the intestines that are sending impulses back to the brain,
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communicating back to the brain and keeping things kind of
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balanced there, including like, hey, stay chilled out. And this
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is coming from gut bacteria, but it's also coming from
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enteroendocrine cells. Because if there's any one theme in the
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body is that there's redundancies in the system, which are
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probably there because they keep us from having a complete
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breakdown if we lose one of them. What role does
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the vagus nerve play in keeping them balanced? Because I
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know you can be overactive or underactive or one and
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the other. And if you are overactive in one or
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the other, what kind of problems will that cause? So
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if you're too much on sympathetic overdrive, then you're going
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to be anxious. If you have low vagal tone, You're
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going to have more inflammation. So you tend, there's going
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to be mental health issues. It could be anxiety, depression,
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but also tied to waking. Really? Yeah. Okay. Low vagal tone.
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So we're digging into the depth there. Inflammation. Yeah. Yeah,
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because you're getting leaky gut also. And how many people
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are out there who are stressed, who don't get enough sleep?
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or rushing, rushing, rushing, and always never taking a moment
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to breathe and just to do some breath work. Like
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that's one of the big things I teach my patients
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because one of the ways to activate the vagus nerve, uh,
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there's so many different biohacking ways, but one, one way
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without having to do a cold plunge or like put
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your dunk your face and in a, you know, a
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bowl full of ice is right with you at all
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moments at any moment of the day. breath is breathing
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because through those stretch receptors in the lungs, especially when
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you take those really deep breaths, it activates the vagus,
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which is the parasympathetic, which is the ventral vagus, which
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is what I'm talking about that then balances out that
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heart rate variability. So if you're stressed because your flight
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just got delayed and you're at the airport and you're
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running late, then instead of letting that wire you up,
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just take some deep breaths. Yeah. Take some really deep breaths.
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But so many people don't know the power that they
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have within their body. I was lucky enough to discover
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this when I was 21 years old because I had
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gotten into medical school, right? That was my dream. I
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had been a straight-A student in high school, gone to
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Cornell undergrad. Like, you know, I was one of those competitive, like,
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really wanted to become a doctor. And then... I had
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to face the reality. I'm freaking scared of needles. So shit,
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how am I going to become a doctor if I
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can't be in a room with needles? Alcohol also, like
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rubbing alcohol makes me queasy. And needles, like I couldn't
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get my blood drawn. I couldn't get a shot without
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passing out. Wow. So it's like right before I get
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into medical school and I'm like telling my parents, I
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don't know if I want to do this. And they're like, oh, no, no, no.
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I'm a child of the immigrant Cubans. Okay. You become
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a doctor, lawyer, or CPA. You better just toughen up. Yeah.
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They're like, you're going to do it. But the other
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good thing is that taking drugs for mental health issues
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is not in our philosophy. I love it. I was
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not raised that way. So I started looking into, well,
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what is happening to me When I'm at the doctor's
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office and I start feeling my heart rates going up,
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I start breaking out into a cold sweat. And then
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that moment of panic when suddenly it literally would look
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like a black curtain was coming over my eyes. And
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then the next thing I knew I was looking up
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and everybody's like reviving me. And I learned about the
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parasympathetic and sympathetic autonomic nervous system. Like, and this is like, again,
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me contrarian thinking, okay, it's automatic. How do I get
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it under my control? So it won't do this to me.
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That's when I discovered breath work, meditation, yoga, 21 years old, 1995,
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no internet. So I'm learning this from CD-ROMs and from
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books and practicing breath work. And in eight months, I
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completely restructured how my brain would react. to needles and
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by the time I got into medical school I was
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able to be in a room with needles get a
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shot be okay with it and having that journey that
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journey myself before I got indoctrinated by medical school there
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was no way that you could like unlearn the fact
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that I had shown myself that there is a power
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within the body that they don't want us to know
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yeah Oh, yeah. So are you insinuating that that's not
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a chemical imbalance with the need for Xanax? Is that
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what you're trying to tell me? How dare you? Thank
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you for the explanation. Brilliant. And where I was trying
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to go with that was to say, look, stress, anxiety,
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lack of sleep, there's a huge correlation with the vagus nerve,
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with our parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. And it's not
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this take medications and fix it. It is Let's take
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a look at ourselves and look at different ways we
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can do this by ourself and not rely on that
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because then we turn into zombies and that reliance becomes
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another reliance before you know it, you're on 10 different medications. Yeah,
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because you're taking one thing to undo the side effects
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from the other and then the side effects of the other.
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But anybody who's been through like major upset, heartache, divorce, breakup,
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you know, you get that pit in your stomach. Yeah. Yeah.
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You lose your appetite. Yeah. That is a physical manifestation
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of your vagus nerve shutting off. So for anybody who's listening,
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if you wonder, how do I know if my vagus
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nerve is not functioning? If you have a pit in
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your stomach, if you eat and food just sits there
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and it feels like it's not moving down, and you're
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a highly stressed person who doesn't get enough sleep, it's
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probably your vagus nerve. And that's it. And I think
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That for me, the reason, like I told you, I've
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told several people, I'm enrolled to come back to school
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to study neuroscience in January because I realize if I'm
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going to have this platform and I am going to
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be like a beacon of hope for people to actually
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achieve real health, I need to know all of this.
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And I find that this, to me, after really revisiting it,
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it's the neuro side and then the cellular side that
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I want to be an expert in so that I
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can convey it. And like the, like, Crazy rates that
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Alzheimer's dementia is multiplying in this country worldwide. And it
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breaks my heart because people's parents are affected. And by
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the time you have dementia, what needs to be done
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to start to reverse it is nothing short of heroic measures.
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And that means that if your parent lives in another state,
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you don't have someone there to supervise them. It's going
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to be very tough because they're going to forget what
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you tell them. Right. I've seen my patients struggle with this.
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So the time to start is way back. Like if
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you're having word finding difficulties, if you're starting to have
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some memory issues, then you got to look at your
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gut health and you have to look at your mitochondrial health. Yep.
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I agree. Well, then let me ask you this because
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I do want to get to the coffee side, but
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I'm too now dug in on this. You're talking about
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mitochondrial health. And so for you, coffee relates to mitochondria,
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by the way. There is a tie-in with coffee. No
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wonder my mitochondria is so strong. Then let me ask
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you this. Some of your key methods for addressing mitochondrial health,
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and I want to ask you this too. One of
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the things that I can't stand is when people act like,
631
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as you get older, this is just part of it. Yes.
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Certain levels decline. I think that's natural. We know that,
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but you don't have to accept it. And I want
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you to talk about that, expound upon what are your
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key components to enhancing mitochondrial health. And as you age,
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you can certainly build very strong mitochondria. I know that.
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I know you know that, but I want you to
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explain how. Structure first. So you've got to dive down
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into the biochemistry of what mitochondria are, but what their
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membrane is. Because the membrane is actually serving as a
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little mini battery. It's an electron gradient. But that can't
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work properly if those membrane lipids... are messed up because
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you've been eating too many omega-6 fats, because you've been
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exposed to mycotoxins, because you've been exposed to pesticides, heavy metals,
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or even just like stress, the leaky gut from having
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a disordered gut microbiome and all that because we know
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that the one thing that distinguishes centenarians in their gut
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microbiome is that they have more anti-inflammatory bugs. So they
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actually are able to keep inflammation down in their gut.
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So back to the mitochondria, you have to start in
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the basics. The basic is the cellular structure, the membrane structure.
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Because if the membrane lipids are messed up, then the
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last step in that electron transport chain, complex four, which
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sits in that membrane, cytochrome C oxidase, it can't sit properly.
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And then the cell starts leaking electrons and you get
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more reactive oxygen species. You start affecting cellular voltage. And
657
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then everything starts getting messed up because now the cell
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is under oxidative stress. And even though a little bit
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of hormetic oxidative stress is good for the cell, like
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hydroxyl radicals that stimulate Nrf2 activation, so anti-inflammatory genes, too
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much is going to turn off that NF-kappa B pathway
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and it's going to augment inflammation in the cell. So
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if that complex can't sit properly in that membrane because
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those membrane lipids have been replaced by stiff omega-6 fats,
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then it's going to malfunction. And that complex four is
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the spark plug in the mitochondrial battery. I learned this
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a little while ago, but a lot of people don't
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really talk about it. And you mentioned it multiple times
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now is the cellular membranes. Can you explain just how
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important the cellular membrane is? And you were talking about
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like the lipid profile around it. That would correlate then
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to having good healthy fats in your diet to keep
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that strong, correct? And so. Super important. And I think
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a really good example is what happens, what I'm seeing
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happens when I start to replenish those membrane lipids with
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like phospholipids. Mm-hmm. And probably the best example is patients
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who are highly toxic. So I have a patient who
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came in with gut health issues that we have to
679
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work on, migraines, and then also had carpet that was
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20 some years old in her home, discovered mold in
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one of the walls, and also lives in an area
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where there's pesticides sprayed. So when we did her tox panel,
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it lit up everywhere. And I learned something really important
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with her because as I put her on the phospholipids,
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she became too toxic, got more migraines. But what that
686
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shows is that even just little bits of starting to
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repair that membrane, when you turn on those mitochondria that
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have been shut off, suddenly your cells start expelling all
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these toxins. Yep. And you have to do it in
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the right way or you overwhelm the person. And I've
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learned this now from working for a while with phospholipids
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that it really brings out how sensitive people are because
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a little bit can go a long way. But then
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I have a patient who was mold toxic, now no
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longer living in the moldy environment. And within four weeks
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of starting phospholipids was getting her memory back that she
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hasn't had in 10 years. What are phospholipids for people?
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They're basically the lipids that build the membrane. So every
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membrane has two layers and phospholipids have a negative and
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a positive charge. They kind of orient to each other
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and they create this nice bilayer membrane that's inside the mitochondria,
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but also on the outside of the cells. And what
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we want is a very fluid membrane. The more fluid,
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the better the communication, the better the DNA expression within
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the cell. The cell is able to control its redox reactions,
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meaning that it can then control the millivoltage inside the
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cell and become healthier. So it is the key. Even
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before other molecules, and we'll talk about things like, I
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know you're a big fan of urolithinase, And urolithin A
710
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does things like activates AMPK expression, which then tells the
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cell like, hey, make new mitochondria, or it's also activating PGC1-alpha,
712
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which is another, it's like the switch in the nucleus
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that turns on mitochondrial biogenesis so that we make new
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mitochondria and repair our mitochondria. And it turns out also
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that there are certain polyphenols in coffee, chlorogenic acids, that
716
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also turn on that AMPK signal. So same thing as
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urolithin A, but getting it from coffee, which kind of
718
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ties in. It's so timely that this very week, there
719
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was an article that was just published, a scientific study
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had been going on for years, and it showed that
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people who drink coffee were 16% less likely to die
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of any cause. And 31% less likely to die of
723
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cardiovascular disease. All right. That's good to hear. Let's crank
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it up then. I love it. There's a few caveats,
725
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but this was a big study. It's the U.S. NANES
726
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database with over 40,000 people, and they've been monitoring them
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from 1999 to 2018. Most people were monitored for a
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period of 10 years, and they found that drinking coffee
729
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actually improves mortality. But with a caveat, the people who
730
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drank coffee in the afternoon later in the day negated
731
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those positive effects of the coffee. So it was only
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the morning coffee drinkers that got the greatest benefits. And
733
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it's probably because if you're drinking coffee too late in
734
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the day, then it's affecting your sleep. It's probably affecting
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your REM sleep. You know, I know... You talk to
736
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a lot of biohackers. So again, individuality, like if you
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want to don't believe it, like have coffee at 2 p.m.
738
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and use your aura ring or use whatever device you're
739
00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:44.489
using to track your sleep and see what does it
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do to your REM sleep? What does it do to
741
00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:52.179
your deep sleep? Not doing me any favors. Yeah. It's not.
742
00:46:52.219 --> 00:46:54.639
That's my own fault. Um, yeah, no, you're right. And
743
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I'm guessing you're a fast metabolizer. Oh, she's like, you
744
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.500
could probably drink coffee at 10 PM and still go
745
00:47:00.539 --> 00:47:04.039
to bed. Oh, I'll pass out, but I don't sleep well. Yeah.
746
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You know, I will pass out like this. I mean,
747
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drop of a dime, but it's not the best sleep.
748
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It's just not. So I have to try to scale
749
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it back. I try to stop before two 30. Um,
750
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I like to fast in the morning and I, of course,
751
00:47:22.409 --> 00:47:24.110
you know, I try to wait in the morning a
752
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little bit before I have it and everything. And I
753
00:47:26.099 --> 00:47:28.039
like to take it right before I go do cardio.
754
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But then I start to like, I start inevitably what
755
00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:33.760
happens is I mean to have one go do cardio
756
00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:35.820
and then, you know, but the work just starts flowing,
757
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.820
the calls come in and I get going and then
758
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.239
it's two hours. So here's a question. How do you
759
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.010
make your coffee? Do you filter it? I arrow dress it. Okay. Yeah. So,
760
00:47:45.389 --> 00:47:49.889
so it's, so it's, uh, like a French press basically. Yeah. Yes.
761
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.760
better so i argue better so it's different so when
762
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you when you do a pour over or you you
763
00:47:57.539 --> 00:48:01.079
run coffee through a filter the chlorogenic acids get through
764
00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:06.110
so remember chlorogenic acids activate ampk so they're also affecting
765
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and they also reduce mitochondrial reactive oxygen species so they're
766
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improving cellular health but it it will filter out the
767
00:48:17.550 --> 00:48:22.090
diterpenes in the coffee So the Cowell and the Cafistol,
768
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which you get when you do an Aeropress or a
769
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French press. And those are actually also activating the PGC1-alpha pathway,
770
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which is promoting regeneration of mitochondria, repair, getting rid of
771
00:48:38.260 --> 00:48:41.960
old mitochondria. So similar to the same thing that urolithin
772
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A is doing, because urolithin A is affecting the AMPK
773
00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:48.510
pathway as well as the PGC1. One alpha pathway, but
774
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you can do it by drinking a cup of coffee
775
00:48:50.340 --> 00:48:52.840
depending on how you brew it. Right. So am I
776
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:56.659
doing it okay then? So you're doing it good for you. Okay. Perfect.
777
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.500
I take the time to do it because it is
778
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.559
just delicious and I enjoy it. The only thing is
779
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:05.539
they say, and it doesn't really have like that huge
780
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.130
of an effect on cholesterol, but when you get the
781
00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:12.929
diterpenes in the coffee from doing a French press style
782
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Or from doing like a mocha pot, which is the
783
00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:18.090
way that my Cuban parents used to make coffee. Yeah.
784
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Then you're getting the dittropenes. that can raise LDL cholesterol,
785
00:49:22.699 --> 00:49:27.159
maybe like by 10, 14 points. Okay. So if you,
786
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if you have high cholesterol and you're worried about that,
787
00:49:31.150 --> 00:49:33.110
then you might want to change the way you're making
788
00:49:33.130 --> 00:49:39.260
your coffee along with drinking organic, low toxin, like toxin free.
789
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mold-free coffee. I started drinking coffee three, four years ago.
790
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I just never did. You know, my mom was a heavy,
791
00:49:47.909 --> 00:49:52.650
heavy coffee drinker and she was staying with us when
792
00:49:52.670 --> 00:49:54.659
my dad passed away. And that's when I kind of
793
00:49:54.949 --> 00:49:56.599
tried to, cause she was making it every day in
794
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.719
the stupid K cups. We're going to go there. Cause
795
00:49:59.739 --> 00:50:02.199
I want to talk about, you know, health wise and everything.
796
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Cause that's how I started. So for me, it was like, well,
797
00:50:05.539 --> 00:50:08.699
It's so nice and easy. I'll drink these and they're, Oh,
798
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.760
they got all these flavors. You know, you don't know
799
00:50:10.820 --> 00:50:15.079
anything about coffee or anything at all. I'm like, Whoa, Kahlua,
800
00:50:15.139 --> 00:50:17.019
you know, like, Oh, you're not, you're also not thinking
801
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.340
about how the coffee's getting burned from the concentrated hot
802
00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:23.420
water that's coming into the K cup. Oh, I just
803
00:50:23.460 --> 00:50:25.739
know it's easy. And it got a bunch of flavor
804
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.760
and the microplastics. Yeah. And that's where I wanted. That's
805
00:50:28.780 --> 00:50:31.179
where I'm going. So, I did that for like a
806
00:50:31.219 --> 00:50:33.010
year or two. Then I stopped drinking and I was like, ah,
807
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.000
it's starting to hurt my stomach. I don't feel good. Obviously,
808
00:50:36.059 --> 00:50:37.980
which we're going to get into, but you know, also
809
00:50:38.340 --> 00:50:40.909
the microplastics that you're getting from the K cup. So
810
00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:45.630
they've shown this in studies. It actually disintegrates the mucus
811
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layer in the gut. Really? So imagine for anybody listening,
812
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like what is the mucus layer? Imagine like a medieval
813
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castle and the moat around the castle. The moat was
814
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designed to protect the castle creates a barrier. So in
815
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the same way, if the wall of the castle is
816
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our gut lining, the moat is the mucus layer. And
817
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if you break down that mucus layer, then it's easy
818
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for bad things to get in like endotoxins, LPS, inflammatory
819
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substances from the gut, because then you start breaking down.
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As soon as the mucus layer breaks down, then you
821
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lose that buffer zone. with the bacteria inside the gut
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then the next thing that breaks down is the gut
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lining so when you're drinking that coffee from a k-cup
824
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or if you're going to whatever coffee shop and picking
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up a coffee to go in those plastic lined cups
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you're messing with your gut mucus layer which is then
827
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going to cause leaky gut which is going to lead
828
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to inflammation and it's going to disrupt the gut uh
829
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gut flora leading to even more inflammation. Well, what do
830
00:51:53.570 --> 00:51:56.099
you say to the people that then say, well, just
831
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get the one that's non-plastic and you dump the grounds
832
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in at the other cup. Like, what is it? I
833
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.360
don't even know. You know what I'm talking about. You
834
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mean like a steel? What do you say? What is that?
835
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I mean, you still have to think about like, well,
836
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what is the hot water running through inside the machine?
837
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Is it still plastic parts? Because then you're not fully...
838
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you know, escaping the exposure to microplastics. Among them, it
839
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.110
just doesn't taste that great, but that's a whole other story.
840
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Once I transitioned into biohacking from what I was doing,
841
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then of course, the first type of coffee I saw
842
00:52:28.869 --> 00:52:31.210
was Dave's. It's the most popular and talked about. So
843
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that's where I learned about that. I started to study
844
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coffee more and learn about, you know, the things that
845
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we're getting into now and talking. And I said, okay,
846
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I know what I need to do now. Switch to
847
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the coffee. I ordered his. Great. I found about the
848
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.059
AeroPress there. Phenomenal. Great. Tastes phenomenal. But then it was like, okay,
849
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.699
I'm getting a little bored. And I'm sure that there's
850
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other things out there. And so that's when I started
851
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to try different mold-free coffees. And I want you to
852
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.099
talk about mold-free organic, what all of that means. Because
853
00:52:58.139 --> 00:52:59.760
a lot of the things you read, it's like, well,
854
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.539
it says it's organic, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's okay.
855
00:53:03.070 --> 00:53:04.909
So I want you to talk about that. But then
856
00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:08.820
that's I got into that realm of let's try these.
857
00:53:08.860 --> 00:53:11.280
Let's see how they're different. What sets them apart? What
858
00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:14.239
makes my stomach feel good and whatnot? And then that's
859
00:53:14.260 --> 00:53:16.179
when I found yours. And that's why I say it.
860
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.019
I'm not saying that because you're here. I wanted you
861
00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:20.699
here because it is my favorite. And I want to
862
00:53:20.739 --> 00:53:22.820
talk about it because I wanted to put you in
863
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.380
front of people because I believe in it. I don't
864
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.429
get anything out of it except the pleasure of drinking
865
00:53:28.469 --> 00:53:30.969
that shit because it's so phenomenal. And that's why I
866
00:53:31.010 --> 00:53:33.539
want people to see you. But I want to talk
867
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:35.960
about what I just brought up, the difference between mold
868
00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:40.079
and organic. But what is it that you do to
869
00:53:40.139 --> 00:53:45.590
yours that makes it taste... Coffee all has a little
870
00:53:45.610 --> 00:53:48.250
bit similar taste, but there's different roasts, there's different flavors,
871
00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:50.309
but there's just... I don't know how to explain what
872
00:53:50.349 --> 00:53:53.510
it is with yours. It's not... I don't know what
873
00:53:53.550 --> 00:53:55.170
it is. I want you to tell me, what is it?
874
00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:59.530
Why is it so freaking good to me? Well, one,
875
00:53:59.949 --> 00:54:03.599
it's organic. Uh-huh. Right. So and we we send the
876
00:54:03.659 --> 00:54:08.719
coffee to get tested for mycotoxins, pesticides of all sorts,
877
00:54:08.780 --> 00:54:10.559
even though it's organic. I just wanted to make sure
878
00:54:10.940 --> 00:54:14.349
tested for glyphosate and also for heavy metals, even though
879
00:54:14.409 --> 00:54:17.070
the coffee plant isn't one that picks up heavy metals
880
00:54:17.150 --> 00:54:19.690
as much as like the cocoa plant. Like you probably
881
00:54:19.730 --> 00:54:22.949
heard of all the heavy metals and different chocolate brands
882
00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:25.949
out there like the lead and the cadmium. Terrible. So
883
00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:28.420
but I just wanted to be safe and check for that.
884
00:54:29.110 --> 00:54:32.389
But part of it is the choice of the beans.
885
00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:36.070
And then the next thing is how the beans are combined.
886
00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:40.659
And the final part is how the beans are roasted.
887
00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:45.079
So the roaster that I'm working with right now uses
888
00:54:45.099 --> 00:54:50.969
a very fancy German air roaster. The majority of coffee
889
00:54:51.130 --> 00:54:53.230
in the United States is drum roasted, so it means
890
00:54:53.269 --> 00:54:56.889
that the coffee beans are coming into direct contact with
891
00:54:56.909 --> 00:55:00.010
the heat surface. Whereas in an air roaster, the coffee
892
00:55:00.030 --> 00:55:03.070
beans are actually being circulated, the air, and they're getting
893
00:55:03.090 --> 00:55:07.960
roasted through convection, but they're not ever coming into contact
894
00:55:08.019 --> 00:55:11.460
with the really hot surface. So there's no chance of
895
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:17.170
overcooking the outside of the bean, burning the bean, or
896
00:55:17.710 --> 00:55:21.869
generating things like advanced glycosylation end products, which are aging, uh,
897
00:55:23.190 --> 00:55:26.610
products that come from over cooking the bean or burning
898
00:55:26.659 --> 00:55:29.000
the outside of the bean. And you also get like
899
00:55:29.179 --> 00:55:31.420
off gassing. Like when you're roasting the beans, you get
900
00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:35.199
these polar aromatic hydrocarbons. And when you're in the air roaster,
901
00:55:35.300 --> 00:55:38.639
it's able to off gas it away from the beans.
902
00:55:38.699 --> 00:55:42.860
So then the final product is very clean. But I,
903
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.159
I went a step further because the facility that I
904
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:50.519
work with only uses organic beans. So there's no chance
905
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.159
for cross contamination inside the the machines. But then in
906
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.679
order to choose this roast, and I don't know, maybe
907
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.929
I have, I must have a really good palate. Or
908
00:56:00.989 --> 00:56:03.110
maybe we have the same palate. It must be, I
909
00:56:03.130 --> 00:56:06.550
don't know. I went, I flew out there and I
910
00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:09.070
did a blind taste test so that I would not
911
00:56:09.170 --> 00:56:14.969
be biased. Yeah. To see which combination I like the best.
912
00:56:15.389 --> 00:56:18.780
And that's how we came up with this newest roast,
913
00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:22.380
the Happy Gut Coffee, which is a combination of Ethiopian, Colombian,
914
00:56:22.900 --> 00:56:27.199
In Guatemalan beans. I'm telling you. Because you sent me
915
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:28.889
to try the new one when it came out. Because
916
00:56:28.949 --> 00:56:31.449
I was just stuck on your old one. And I
917
00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:34.769
told you immediately. I was like, dude. Because I even
918
00:56:34.829 --> 00:56:36.670
tried them back to back. Because I just. I was
919
00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:38.210
so nervous. I got to tell you, I was so
920
00:56:38.250 --> 00:56:41.820
nervous when you were going to call me. Because I'm like. Oh, man,
921
00:56:41.860 --> 00:56:46.639
because you were so in love with our original roast. Yeah.
922
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.960
And I decided to, you know, go with a different roaster,
923
00:56:51.699 --> 00:56:56.050
create a new operation, and bring in, you know, because
924
00:56:56.070 --> 00:56:59.550
I think what makes this one a bit different is
925
00:56:59.590 --> 00:57:01.730
the Ethiopian beans because they bring a bit of a
926
00:57:01.929 --> 00:57:08.340
floral and fruity overtone to the earthiness of the Colombian
927
00:57:08.380 --> 00:57:10.239
and the Guatemalan beans. It's a good balance. It's not
928
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.639
too much. It's a really good balance. And that's, so,
929
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:15.739
you know, you know how this is too. When you
930
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.610
have something that you do a long time and you
931
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.289
love it and you do it and then something new,
932
00:57:19.349 --> 00:57:22.329
it's like, oh wow, that was so good. You know,
933
00:57:22.429 --> 00:57:24.829
and that happens. So I had to temper that. So
934
00:57:24.849 --> 00:57:27.050
what I did was, is I did that first initially
935
00:57:27.090 --> 00:57:31.050
and then I told Queenie, my wife, I said, okay,
936
00:57:31.170 --> 00:57:33.269
let's set this, let's make sure of this now. Let's
937
00:57:33.309 --> 00:57:35.489
make sure I'm not just overreacting because it's something new.
938
00:57:35.550 --> 00:57:37.530
Let's make one. I'm glad you don't call me and
939
00:57:37.570 --> 00:57:41.360
tell me like when you're about to do this. I
940
00:57:41.380 --> 00:57:44.340
would have to do some deep breath work and activate
941
00:57:44.380 --> 00:57:49.489
my vagus nerve, make sure my mitochondria are working well. Well,
942
00:57:49.510 --> 00:57:52.090
you know what, though? If I am not honest with
943
00:57:52.139 --> 00:57:54.309
a friend and tell you I don't care, you know
944
00:57:54.329 --> 00:57:56.170
what I mean? And so I am honest to a
945
00:57:56.210 --> 00:57:58.269
fault when it comes to something like this, especially because
946
00:57:58.289 --> 00:58:01.130
you need to know. And I was just like, okay.
947
00:58:01.909 --> 00:58:03.969
And I did it again today. I had your old
948
00:58:04.150 --> 00:58:07.130
one because I kind of am saving some, you know.
949
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.179
I had that one first and then I had this
950
00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:11.139
one second. And I said, damn it. I said, I
951
00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:13.840
love the first one so much. And I stocked up
952
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.039
on it when you were going out of it. I
953
00:58:15.059 --> 00:58:17.480
got like five, six bags of it, but I'm telling you,
954
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.849
this one's better. It really is. And that's, it's fascinating too,
955
00:58:21.889 --> 00:58:23.670
to see how, when you got something that you think
956
00:58:23.710 --> 00:58:26.230
you can't make any better, you make it better. And
957
00:58:26.269 --> 00:58:28.389
that tells me a lot about a person that's willing
958
00:58:28.429 --> 00:58:31.829
to do that. Well, my stuff is excellent, but I
959
00:58:31.889 --> 00:58:33.969
know I can make it better. You know what? Also,
960
00:58:34.090 --> 00:58:39.809
like we started, um, In the beginning, talking about mind-body connection, energy,
961
00:58:39.829 --> 00:58:45.289
the intention that we hold, the work of Masudo Emoto
962
00:58:45.429 --> 00:58:50.570
and how you can imprint emotion into things. The team
963
00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:57.250
that roasts this coffee for me is like Snow White's
964
00:58:57.389 --> 00:59:00.429
Seven Dwarfs, like Whistle While You Work. Really? They are
965
00:59:00.469 --> 00:59:07.489
the most positive, happy team They treat their employees well.
966
00:59:07.949 --> 00:59:12.840
They're just like positivity. Every time I communicate with them,
967
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.659
it's all like elevated positive. And that's why I knew
968
00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:18.739
I wanted to work with them. And it was a
969
00:59:18.780 --> 00:59:21.719
matter of just coming up with the brew that I
970
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.940
was going to be happy with because I'm probably as
971
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.320
much of a coffee snob as you are. And I
972
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:29.829
also didn't drink coffee for big parts of my life.
973
00:59:29.889 --> 00:59:33.909
And before I launched Happy Gut Coffee, I had stopped
974
00:59:33.929 --> 00:59:37.590
drinking coffee for seven years. Wow. I didn't touch coffee.
975
00:59:37.610 --> 00:59:40.070
That's weird, isn't it? Then to just go start making it. Well,
976
00:59:40.090 --> 00:59:44.050
it's part of my culture. Ah, okay. My Cuban culture
977
00:59:44.110 --> 00:59:47.079
is like. There was a reason though that you did this, obviously.
978
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:51.659
I mean, Simon's always right. Combination of things like you can't.
979
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.260
take people away from coffee. No, but when you start
980
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:59.250
looking at the benefits of coffee and what it does,
981
00:59:59.550 --> 01:00:02.889
the polyphenols in coffee activate the L cells in the
982
01:00:02.949 --> 01:00:08.650
intestines that produce and secrete GLP one. Hey, you can
983
01:00:08.750 --> 01:00:14.900
make your own GLP one by drinking clean coffee. Yeah, absolutely.
984
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:17.480
There's a lot of correlation with so much. I just
985
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.699
had a, um, heavy metal test and then it looked
986
01:00:20.780 --> 01:00:23.300
at all different aspects so it went 0 to 7
987
01:00:23.300 --> 01:00:25.840
0 meaning you don't need any help on this 7
988
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.320
you pretty messed up right my mitochondria and my polyphenol
989
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.079
scores were all 0 like no don't need any help
990
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.489
whatsoever so that made me feel pretty damn good I
991
01:00:35.530 --> 01:00:38.630
had some other areas that were bothersome we just moved
992
01:00:38.670 --> 01:00:40.650
into a new house and I can't remember which one
993
01:00:40.690 --> 01:00:43.289
it was but there was like some toxicity in one
994
01:00:43.309 --> 01:00:45.750
of my scores and I'm assuming that's probably what it
995
01:00:45.789 --> 01:00:52.610
was but um With this, it's called Happy Gut. Obviously,
996
01:00:52.630 --> 01:00:56.050
you're a gut expert, but why is it Happy Gut?
997
01:00:56.250 --> 01:00:59.070
What about your coffee and your products? Because I use
998
01:00:59.110 --> 01:01:02.809
a product of yours. You started me on it when
999
01:01:02.829 --> 01:01:04.650
I met you. I've had it on auto ship ever since,
1000
01:01:04.710 --> 01:01:08.230
and it's a gut powder that you have. So what
1001
01:01:08.289 --> 01:01:11.429
is it about this that makes a happy gut, your
1002
01:01:11.489 --> 01:01:14.650
coffee and your brand? I mean, let's start with the
1003
01:01:14.670 --> 01:01:16.610
fact that it doesn't have any of the crap that
1004
01:01:16.630 --> 01:01:19.269
can be poisonous to your gut or your body. Yep.
1005
01:01:19.789 --> 01:01:24.639
But then it's the way that it's made. So coffees
1006
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.199
that are high in chlorogenic acid, which yes, is a
1007
01:01:27.300 --> 01:01:30.159
polyphenol that has a lot of benefits like we talked about,
1008
01:01:30.219 --> 01:01:36.179
like it helps to activate mitochondrial biogenesis. But chlorogenic acid
1009
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.280
also stimulates the parietal cells in the stomach to secrete
1010
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:42.579
hydrochloric acid. So basically it gives you heartburn. And it
1011
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.559
gives you that sour stomach feeling. So the way that
1012
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:50.460
we make the coffee with the air roaster reduces the
1013
01:01:50.500 --> 01:01:53.670
chlorogenic acid to a level where it makes it more
1014
01:01:53.750 --> 01:01:57.489
comfortable to drink, while at the same time not losing
1015
01:01:57.670 --> 01:02:01.170
all of the chlorogenic acid because we want those polyphenols
1016
01:02:01.789 --> 01:02:07.670
in there to benefit your mitochondria, to stimulate GLP-1 secretion,
1017
01:02:08.050 --> 01:02:10.960
for all the other bioactive amines that are in the coffee.
1018
01:02:11.539 --> 01:02:14.860
And we do that by doing a, we sort of
1019
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.739
cheat because we don't go full dark roast with this
1020
01:02:17.820 --> 01:02:20.900
new one. We go just a little bit below the
1021
01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:24.780
dark roast, medium to dark. So we can get those
1022
01:02:24.860 --> 01:02:29.659
chlorogenic acids out that are causing that sour stomach, heartburn feeling,
1023
01:02:30.460 --> 01:02:34.960
acid reflux while still keeping the benefits. Brother, man, like
1024
01:02:35.550 --> 01:02:38.530
literally the abundance of information. I knew you were smart.
1025
01:02:38.849 --> 01:02:41.699
I obviously knew that, but I didn't. I think you
1026
01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:43.940
even brought some things to me that kind of caught
1027
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:46.300
me off guard. Not that I didn't expect that, but
1028
01:02:46.780 --> 01:02:49.409
so well-rounded and versatile. If you knew how much I
1029
01:02:49.469 --> 01:02:51.650
love that and how much I try to pride myself
1030
01:02:51.769 --> 01:02:54.750
on being that, and I'm nowhere near your league of
1031
01:02:55.150 --> 01:02:58.769
expertise on any of this, but I appreciate your ability
1032
01:02:58.809 --> 01:03:02.590
to be so versatile, well-rounded, and offer different aspects and
1033
01:03:02.769 --> 01:03:06.809
ideas of all the aspects of health. While you are
1034
01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:10.409
a specialist, you know everything. a lot about of a lot.
1035
01:03:10.530 --> 01:03:13.750
And I really, really appreciate the heck out of you
1036
01:03:14.309 --> 01:03:16.829
sharing it coming here. And I want everybody to see that.
1037
01:03:16.909 --> 01:03:20.190
So tell everybody the best places to follow you, find you,
1038
01:03:20.210 --> 01:03:23.489
where can they check you out? Instagram at Dr. Pedre,
1039
01:03:23.550 --> 01:03:27.239
D-R Pedre. They can find my books on Amazon or
1040
01:03:27.340 --> 01:03:31.199
anywhere where books are sold. And they can learn more
1041
01:03:31.219 --> 01:03:35.820
about the coffee at happygutcoffee.com. Trust me, everybody. Trust me.
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This is the goat of coffee. I say that. I
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say that with being one of the biggest, my white,
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my white beard. Yeah, exactly. Well, Vincent, man, dude, thank
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you so much for coming. It was a pleasure to
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say the least to have you here and to have
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this conversation. I'm, we're going to talk more off camera
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about some of this stuff because it's mind blowing. But anyway,
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thank you again. Happy got coffee. I can't recommend that enough,
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but I'll be on the coffee. Just check him out.
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Learn a lot about of a lot. So, That being said,
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stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli, signing off.
