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Welcome to the draft board hockey show.
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My name is Mark.
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And as always, I'm joined by my co-host Link from New Wave Hockey.
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What's going on?
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Not much, not much.
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You know, working on a couple things for McKeens for New Wave Hockey, working on a couple scattering reports.
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Uh, one of whom is on the guy we're talking about today.
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And uh yeah, I'm very excited to get to get it going, Mark.
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I mean, this is this is our this seems to be our boy this year.
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This seems to be the guy that you and I kind of are like, all right, I'm all in.
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Let's do it.
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I I I I've liked him since last year.
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Like I said, I'm a big Saginaw guy.
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Uh, so uh yeah, I like Dima's Jolkin.
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Zilkin from Saginaw Spirit.
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He's the feature of today's prospect.
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And uh, and you were saying before we started recording there, Todd, tell us your spiel, you think he's in the uh same trajectory as Michael Misa?
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Well, no, I'm just I'm not saying that these two are exactly going to end up the exact same stratosphere.
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Obviously, I love Michael Mesa.
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I think first of all, let's let's first let's both acknowledge that you and I have uh have acted like we're Saginaw homers.
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So I promise you guys this this this this this recording here is not being filmed from both of our grandmother's bases uh in in Saginaw, Michigan.
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I promise you that we're in two different locations.
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But it there always seems to be guys that we love that play for Saginaw.
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Obviously, Zayn Perek, uh obviously Michael Misa, obviously a couple other guys.
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Klepov was a guy we were a big fan of last year, Minchukov was a guy that you and I were both fans of.
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And now here we go again.
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Dimas Jokin, he's doing great.
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He's he's he's kicking butt.
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Uh that's his stats from last year.
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59 games played, 36 uh points.
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But this season.
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75 points.
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See, say it right there, Little Link.
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Oh, 75 points.
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Fine.
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I'm just I'm going, I'm going too quick.
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But this season already, he has played 11 games and he has 12 goals and 22, 22 assists.
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The reason why I was bringing up Michael Meese is because look, we started Michael Mises' draft year.
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People were like, oh, he's the seventh or eighth best player in the draft.
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He's like a skill guy.
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I don't see him going too high.
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Boom.
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Now he's producing.
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Now he's putting up uh a pace that could shoot up to the you know 110s, 120s.
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Dimas Jokin's legit.
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This guy is some people were hesitant to compare him to Vigo Bjork.
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I'm not hesitant at all.
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This guy is looking great.
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So let's get into it.
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Yeah, well, you know what?
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So you you mentioned Michael Misa, and and before we started recording, I said, well, the only difference between him and Michael Misa is that he's 5'10, listed at 5'10, and Michael Misa is you know, listed at 6'1.
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So that in itself, you know how it is.
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And now it's not that we don't we don't take that into consideration, but the NHL they take that into consideration.
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Although Dimasil is junking, he's he's a beauty.
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I there is so many facets of his game that I thoroughly enjoy and am a fan of, obviously.
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But uh yeah, like I mean, the points itself, he's on a uh 11-game bender right now, 11 straight game points, and like you said, we've got 30.
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I don't think bender is the right word because he's gonna continue it all year, Mark.
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I mean, but that's okay.
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Listen, to start off your draft season and just go on an absolute tear like that, and if he can keep up this pace, now the only the other thing that we have to consider is he's a 2008-born prospect, which you know, I don't really when you're put when you're producing at this pace, like it's all about projection, right?
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And it's all about progression, I guess you could say, and he is doing it with flying colors.
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So let's take a couple of uh looks at his now.
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You know, the thing with with Dima Jilkin is is that the shot's phenomenal.
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Obviously, we know that the shot is great when you're scoring at a goal a game pace.
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That's obviously unreal.
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But I do like his playmaking ability, he sees the ice extremely well, he finds open lanes, see knows where everyone is on the ice.
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That's the other thing that I really like about him.
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He's not just a single threat, he's a dual threat, and uh, there's a lot to like about his game.
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Um, you know, I'll let you chime in a little bit here.
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I'm kind of gushing a little too much.
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No, yeah, I'm about to gush some more.
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Uh it's it's it's just it's incredible stick skill that really does it for me.
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Um, we can talk all day about how intelligent of a player he is, and I think that is the hallmark of his game because he is a remarkably intelligent game without being, let's say, the fastest or the most elusive, even though he is pretty fast.
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He is pretty elusive, and he uses his stick to I think he's got a lot of tremendous uh stick skill.
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He can dangle through some guys, he can make great jaw dropping passes, but he can read the play better than kind of anyone else at that level.
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I think that if he would have jumped to the end to the NCAA this season, he would have similar success.
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Obviously, he wouldn't be producing at two points a game, but I don't think two, I don't think a point of game is out of the question here, especially if he were to play in like the N uh in the in the NCHC with like a Denver or a obviously this is out like too a little bit too far-fetched, but Jilkin is producing, and I think he would be producing at every single level.
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This guy has not only launched himself into a top five discussion, I think he should be considered around the top three discussion, um, which is pretty tough to say because you guys know how much I love guys like Skrortsov and Pushtavoy and stuff like that, but he's pushing himself into that this consideration.
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So far, he's the only draft draft eligible player right now who is making significant scoring strides this early in the season.
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And yes, it's only been 11 games.
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All right, there's a long season to go.
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There are things that he needs to show because in his previous history, he's kind of tapered off as the season's gone along.
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Obviously, you've seen a good scoring progression, but he scoring has never been the hallmark of his game per se.
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So I want to keep an eye on him, see what he can do.
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But so far, what we're seeing is just brilliant.
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He's remarkably intelligent and he has a ton of tools.
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This is a great thing.
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And I think that we, you know, you you've um you haven't mentioned yet that he's he's got that work ethic.
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Like he is a dog on the bone.
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Last year, actually, in the OSL, in the OHL's Western Conference voting, the coaches' voting, yeah.
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I think he had the the second, they they voted him as the second hardest worker in that conference and also the second best hands.
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So he does have that grit, that little sandpaper in his game.
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And when you combine that with you know offensive skills, like we've mentioned already, well, I mean, like you said, Viggo Bjork, absolutely, he might even actually be a little bit more offensive than Vigo Bjork, in my opinion.
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Um, and so you know what that you got yourself a hardworking offensive threat of a player in their draft year, and if he continues at this pace and puts up monster numbers in the OHL for Saginaw, well, I mean, come on, there's the sky's a limit.
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Can he push that the height?
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Can he you know, does he add a couple inches?
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Can he get up to like 5'11, six feet?
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If he hits six feet, forget about it.
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Well, you remember his brother, correct?
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Danny Jilkin.
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Danny Jilkin, yeah.
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Yeah, well, Danny Jilkin's six foot two.
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There's no there there's no reason that the Dima can't get to six foot at least.
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Um, I I don't know about if he has the same scoring potential as Vigo Bjork.
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I think Vigo Bjork right now.
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Come on, I don't know.
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I don't I look, I think Vigo Vigo has already been showing this year that I I though he hasn't put in a ton of points this year, I think he's still at zero for the NA for the Winnipeg Jets, but he's put up a considerable amount of of like chances.
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And I think we're kind of we're we're grabbing at straws here because I think Jilkin's game is his all-around game.
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That's his sell.
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He does everything.
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But if he continues to show this offensive uptick that he's been showing and he puts up more than 100 points, I'm pounding the table that he should be the second overall pick.
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That's it's it's simple as that.
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Um I it he will overtake the Russians overnight.
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Um, I'm just worried about the uh skills with him.
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I don't think he has the requisite uh skating speed.
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I think he's skating-wise, he's brilliant.
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He's very, he's very controlled, he's very balanced.
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I think the speed needs to get better for him uh to really push those guys without that scoring uh prowess.
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Obviously, the production is the big thing here that we want to see, that we want to continue to see throughout the season.
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But right now, he's entrenched in this top four, top five discussion for me.
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He's not moving, um, and he's potentially going even higher than that.
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I've heard people even say that he's a dark horse for number one.
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I would not even I wouldn't take it out of consideration.
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DuPont's looked incredible.
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DuPont has looked brilliant, but DeMajilkin, I could hear the argument.
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I could hear the argument.
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I'm okay.
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Well, the only you know, the only downfall for both of them is again, they're both listed at five foot ten.
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So I mean, and and you know, one's one's one's five eleven and a half, one's actually five eleven and like a quarter.
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So where are you getting these stats from?
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I'm I'm I'm getting hockey DV, that's what they're telling me.
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There's there's they're saying that he's he's 5'11 and a quarter, five eleven and a half.
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Look that up.
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Hold on, and you know what?
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It's a lot of I don't believe the height stats until they officially do it at the combine, so until now, because I've seen a lot of stats change in years prior.
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That's what they're saying.
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Well, okay, that's what they're saying.
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And then Dimas Jilkin is 5'11 even.
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Okay, well, you know what?
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Listen, I'm actually gonna go see both of them play coming up.
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So I got uh Landon DuPont on the 23rd, so Friday, and then uh Dimas Jilkin, I don't know when he's in town, but uh, I mean I might make a little drive up to uh SAGs to see him.
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So, but uh yeah, I I'll believe it when I see it.
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If listen, like you said, if if if Landon DuPont you know is measured over six feet, then I I I it'd be hard to lose that first overall spot.
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When we when we start to talk about DuPont, I'm gonna talk about how I think this is a different level of defensive prospect that we just haven't seen.
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I think he is going to he's having a better draft season than Matthew Schaefer.
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Um, which hold on, let me let me re let me restate that because Matthew Schaefer played 17 games.
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Give me a second.
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We're you're thinking about Matthew Schaefer and his rookie year and the superstar Matthew Schaefer.
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I'm talking about Matthew Schaefer, the guy who played 17 games, and we're like, okay, he's really good, but is he number one?
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So Yeah, but I mean, you know, you saw glimpses of uh of Matthew Schaefer at the World Juniors, although it was a limited amount of time, but I mean the speed, the speed.
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Well, no, he had the pre pre-limb games, so it wasn't, you know, I mean, like we saw something.
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I Well, we're we're hold on, we're derailing this to make this DuPont's episode, but we'll we'll we'll talk about that when we get there.
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Um, but what I'm saying with with Jilkin is that I think uh the tools are there for him if if he can increase his skating speed, if he can keep up this production, if he can keep that goal pace that he's got going on, because that is ridiculous, 12 goals in 11 games, um, if he can keep fighting those lanes for these passes, there's no telling where he can go.
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I think he that he can challenge DuPont.
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Uh uh, do I think DuPont's in another stratosphere currently?
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Yes.
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Um, do I think Demon Shilkin is currently the hottest prospect on the market?
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Yes.
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All right.
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These two are both in a very solid wave, and we're waiting for the Russians to sort of blow up and and make their draft cases a little bit more loud and clear, waiting for some other guys as well.
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But it's it's Jilkin is really taking a hold of a lot of slow starts out the gate for some struct for some prospects.
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Yeah, I mean, and you know, like I said, I think it I think that it's the other intangibles about his game.
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You know, last year too, he had like 100 penalty minutes, so he's not he's not afraid to get into the thick of things.
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He's got a little bit of attitude on the ice.
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I, you know, and he's the captain of Segana was a captain last year.
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He was the captain when he was 16.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's he's uh, you know, he's he's proven that on and off the ice that this is a very competent prospect.
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So um, yeah, I I think I'm I'm not there yet that he's gonna compete with Landon DuPont for first overall.
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However, I do see him climbing up the rankings, and I you know, I loved his game last year with Saginaw.
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Watched a lot of Saginaw games, you know that, and uh yeah, he was one that I was like, yeah.
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God, this kid, he's blowing my mind.
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He's great.
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I'll say it again.
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I love Klepov too.
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Klepov's great.
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I'll say it again, though.
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Like I didn't, I'm not advocating for him first overall right now, but I saw people say he could be the guy.
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Oh my god, you see that every year, like last year.
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They they know they bumped.
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Uh it's it's it's you know what it's gonna happen.
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Last year, look, like I think at one point fourth overall.
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Like, come on, come on.
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We could say the quiet part out loud.
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We know who said it.
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Um come on.
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Um, but no, it look, I uh Zilkin, that's the fact that he's even garnering this even type of talk should just be indicative of what type of movie collecting.
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Exactly.
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I'm a fan.
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Um I also I also wanted to point out as well, uh, we were recording this on October 20th, uh of 2026.
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He turns 18 tomorrow, October 21st, 2026.
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So uh maybe that turns some people away because he's one of the older players in this draft class, but he's mature.
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Um, he is he's already showing that he's one of the smartest players in the in the OHL, let alone the CAHL, let alone junior hockey.
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So I but you know what I think there's an exception here.
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You know, okay, I mentioned the 2008 thing, and I said that you gotta watch that because last year he put over well over a point a game in his D minus one season, even though he's a 2008 born.
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He had 75 points in 59 games, 36 goals.
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And this year, like I said, if he busts over 100 points, then those that's the progression that you want to see.
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You always want to see progression in players, and you know, and this happens all the time in a draft year.
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A player blows up in their numbers and in the CHL, and then their D plus one season, they kind of plateau or they actually drop.
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He is proving so we get we got a glimpse into the future that he's actually you know doing what he's supposed to be doing.
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I and I love that in a player.
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Uh, if he pops over six feet, then this, in my opinion, he might be the consensus second overall.
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Like, just give it to him already, especially if he pops over I'm there with you.
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Yeah, I'm there with you.
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But uh, if yeah, if like again, his brother, like you said, is six two.
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So, hey, if you can reach that six one plateau, watch out.
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It's gonna be Zilkin Mania when it comes comes draft day.
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And we're gonna be there.
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Are we gonna go, Link?
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Are we going?
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Are we wherever it is?
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We're going all right, cool.
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I I've heard a rumor that it's gonna be uh down here in Philly, Mark.
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So we're gonna have a great time.
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That's another I'll be there.
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Mark Bell's on Mark, Mark.
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Tell your mom.
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Well, well, pop, I I got my uh my grandfather staying here, so I don't know how much how much room I'll have.
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Okay, me and him will drink some of that uh stuff that you got.
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No, you're you're you're for sure.
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If it's in Philly, you're coming over.
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We're we're we're we're we're getting we're getting knocked on Kruppnik.
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And we're gonna love it.
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Yeah, we'll make we'll make you some Caesars too.
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But uh last thing last thing I want to point out with uh with with Dan with Demas Jilkin um too, he is committed to Michigan for next season.
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Now we have seen with some prospects that have looked very good in this early start of the season.
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Some of them have gone to the NCAA mid middle of the season.
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We saw this with Tynan Lawrence last year.
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We saw this with uh Will Horckoff in his draft year, both of whom generally I think increased their draft stock.
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I feel like Tynan Lawrence would have fallen, would have fallen lower if he hadn't had made that jump, and he looked pretty good towards the end of the season.
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Same with Will Horkov.
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He wasn't really making a ton of noise until he went to Michigan.
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Now, is this a path for the team to take?
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I mean, you know what?
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The thing is with those two aforementioned prospects is that one, well, um, they were coming out of USHL and NTDP, right?
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CHL is a good breeding ground for for prospects.
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I mean, unless you do it at the beginning of the season, I don't know.
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I I don't know how how that plays out.
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I mean, it'd be pretty cool to see him play at Michigan.
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Okay, however, if he remains in Saginaw and he keeps on putting up these monster numbers and has a decent, you know, run in the playoffs and maybe even to the Mem Cup, then why would you want to do that?
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I'm just saying it's an option.
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I'm just putting it out there as as maybe if it happens, maybe not.
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We'll see.
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Yeah, we'll see what happens.
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But uh, anyways, that's it for this episode.
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Dima Jilkin.
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Man, that was fun.
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I love the kid.
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We're gonna keep our eyes uh the whole season, obviously.
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Yeah, Dima Dima's the boy, he's been racking up some points.
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Uh, and yeah, I we just needed to talk about him first before we got to really anybody else.
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We we've talked about push the boy.
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Maybe we'll do because I feel like you and I are itching to talk about DuPont.
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I don't think you understand, I don't think you're ready for me to to glaze DuPont as much as I'm about to glaze.
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Let's do DuPont next week because I'm gonna see him on Friday, and then uh and we'll record on the uh on the weekend.
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And uh, yeah, let's do that.
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Okay, so DuPont's the next one for sure.
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Okay.
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All right, that's it then for this episode.
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Thanks for watching and listening, and we'll see you soon.
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Cheers.
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Welcome to the draft board hockey show.
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My name is Mark.
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And as always, I'm joined by my co-host Link from New Wave Hockey.
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What's going on?
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Not much, not much.
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You know, working on a couple things for McKeens for New Wave Hockey, working on a couple scattering reports.
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Uh, one of whom is on the guy we're talking about today.
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And uh yeah, I'm very excited to get to get it going, Mark.
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I mean, this is this is our this seems to be our boy this year.
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This seems to be the guy that you and I kind of are like, all right, I'm all in.
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Let's do it.
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I I I I've liked him since last year.
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Like I said, I'm a big Saginaw guy.
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Uh, so uh yeah, I like Dima's Jolkin.
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Zilkin from Saginaw Spirit.
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He's the feature of today's prospect.
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And uh, and you were saying before we started recording there, Todd, tell us your spiel, you think he's in the uh same trajectory as Michael Misa?
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Well, no, I'm just I'm not saying that these two are exactly going to end up the exact same stratosphere.
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Obviously, I love Michael Mesa.
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I think first of all, let's let's first let's both acknowledge that you and I have uh have acted like we're Saginaw homers.
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So I promise you guys this this this this this recording here is not being filmed from both of our grandmother's bases uh in in Saginaw, Michigan.
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I promise you that we're in two different locations.
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But it there always seems to be guys that we love that play for Saginaw.
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Obviously, Zayn Perek, uh obviously Michael Misa, obviously a couple other guys.
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Klepov was a guy we were a big fan of last year, Minchukov was a guy that you and I were both fans of.
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And now here we go again.
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Dimas Jokin, he's doing great.
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He's he's he's kicking butt.
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Uh that's his stats from last year.
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59 games played, 36 uh points.
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But this season.
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75 points.
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See, say it right there, Little Link.
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Oh, 75 points.
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Fine.
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I'm just I'm going, I'm going too quick.
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But this season already, he has played 11 games and he has 12 goals and 22, 22 assists.
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The reason why I was bringing up Michael Meese is because look, we started Michael Mises' draft year.
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People were like, oh, he's the seventh or eighth best player in the draft.
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He's like a skill guy.
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I don't see him going too high.
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Boom.
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Now he's producing.
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Now he's putting up uh a pace that could shoot up to the you know 110s, 120s.
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Dimas Jokin's legit.
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This guy is some people were hesitant to compare him to Vigo Bjork.
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I'm not hesitant at all.
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This guy is looking great.
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So let's get into it.
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Yeah, well, you know what?
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So you you mentioned Michael Misa, and and before we started recording, I said, well, the only difference between him and Michael Misa is that he's 5'10, listed at 5'10, and Michael Misa is you know, listed at 6'1.
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So that in itself, you know how it is.
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And now it's not that we don't we don't take that into consideration, but the NHL they take that into consideration.
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Although Dimasil is junking, he's he's a beauty.
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I there is so many facets of his game that I thoroughly enjoy and am a fan of, obviously.
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But uh yeah, like I mean, the points itself, he's on a uh 11-game bender right now, 11 straight game points, and like you said, we've got 30.
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I don't think bender is the right word because he's gonna continue it all year, Mark.
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I mean, but that's okay.
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Listen, to start off your draft season and just go on an absolute tear like that, and if he can keep up this pace, now the only the other thing that we have to consider is he's a 2008-born prospect, which you know, I don't really when you're put when you're producing at this pace, like it's all about projection, right?
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And it's all about progression, I guess you could say, and he is doing it with flying colors.
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So let's take a couple of uh looks at his now.
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You know, the thing with with Dima Jilkin is is that the shot's phenomenal.
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Obviously, we know that the shot is great when you're scoring at a goal a game pace.
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That's obviously unreal.
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But I do like his playmaking ability, he sees the ice extremely well, he finds open lanes, see knows where everyone is on the ice.
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That's the other thing that I really like about him.
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He's not just a single threat, he's a dual threat, and uh, there's a lot to like about his game.
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Um, you know, I'll let you chime in a little bit here.
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I'm kind of gushing a little too much.
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No, yeah, I'm about to gush some more.
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Uh it's it's it's just it's incredible stick skill that really does it for me.
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Um, we can talk all day about how intelligent of a player he is, and I think that is the hallmark of his game because he is a remarkably intelligent game without being, let's say, the fastest or the most elusive, even though he is pretty fast.
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He is pretty elusive, and he uses his stick to I think he's got a lot of tremendous uh stick skill.
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He can dangle through some guys, he can make great jaw dropping passes, but he can read the play better than kind of anyone else at that level.
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I think that if he would have jumped to the end to the NCAA this season, he would have similar success.
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Obviously, he wouldn't be producing at two points a game, but I don't think two, I don't think a point of game is out of the question here, especially if he were to play in like the N uh in the in the NCHC with like a Denver or a obviously this is out like too a little bit too far-fetched, but Jilkin is producing, and I think he would be producing at every single level.
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This guy has not only launched himself into a top five discussion, I think he should be considered around the top three discussion, um, which is pretty tough to say because you guys know how much I love guys like Skrortsov and Pushtavoy and stuff like that, but he's pushing himself into that this consideration.
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So far, he's the only draft draft eligible player right now who is making significant scoring strides this early in the season.
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And yes, it's only been 11 games.
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All right, there's a long season to go.
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There are things that he needs to show because in his previous history, he's kind of tapered off as the season's gone along.
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Obviously, you've seen a good scoring progression, but he scoring has never been the hallmark of his game per se.
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So I want to keep an eye on him, see what he can do.
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But so far, what we're seeing is just brilliant.
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He's remarkably intelligent and he has a ton of tools.
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This is a great thing.
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And I think that we, you know, you you've um you haven't mentioned yet that he's he's got that work ethic.
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Like he is a dog on the bone.
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Last year, actually, in the OSL, in the OHL's Western Conference voting, the coaches' voting, yeah.
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I think he had the the second, they they voted him as the second hardest worker in that conference and also the second best hands.
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So he does have that grit, that little sandpaper in his game.
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And when you combine that with you know offensive skills, like we've mentioned already, well, I mean, like you said, Viggo Bjork, absolutely, he might even actually be a little bit more offensive than Vigo Bjork, in my opinion.
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Um, and so you know what that you got yourself a hardworking offensive threat of a player in their draft year, and if he continues at this pace and puts up monster numbers in the OHL for Saginaw, well, I mean, come on, there's the sky's a limit.
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Can he push that the height?
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Can he you know, does he add a couple inches?
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Can he get up to like 5'11, six feet?
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If he hits six feet, forget about it.
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Well, you remember his brother, correct?
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Danny Jilkin.
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Danny Jilkin, yeah.
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Yeah, well, Danny Jilkin's six foot two.
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There's no there there's no reason that the Dima can't get to six foot at least.
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Um, I I don't know about if he has the same scoring potential as Vigo Bjork.
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I think Vigo Bjork right now.
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Come on, I don't know.
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I don't I look, I think Vigo Vigo has already been showing this year that I I though he hasn't put in a ton of points this year, I think he's still at zero for the NA for the Winnipeg Jets, but he's put up a considerable amount of of like chances.
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And I think we're kind of we're we're grabbing at straws here because I think Jilkin's game is his all-around game.
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That's his sell.
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He does everything.
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But if he continues to show this offensive uptick that he's been showing and he puts up more than 100 points, I'm pounding the table that he should be the second overall pick.
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That's it's it's simple as that.
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Um I it he will overtake the Russians overnight.
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Um, I'm just worried about the uh skills with him.
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I don't think he has the requisite uh skating speed.
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I think he's skating-wise, he's brilliant.
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He's very, he's very controlled, he's very balanced.
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I think the speed needs to get better for him uh to really push those guys without that scoring uh prowess.
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Obviously, the production is the big thing here that we want to see, that we want to continue to see throughout the season.
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But right now, he's entrenched in this top four, top five discussion for me.
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He's not moving, um, and he's potentially going even higher than that.
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I've heard people even say that he's a dark horse for number one.
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I would not even I wouldn't take it out of consideration.
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DuPont's looked incredible.
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DuPont has looked brilliant, but DeMajilkin, I could hear the argument.
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I could hear the argument.
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I'm okay.
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Well, the only you know, the only downfall for both of them is again, they're both listed at five foot ten.
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So I mean, and and you know, one's one's one's five eleven and a half, one's actually five eleven and like a quarter.
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So where are you getting these stats from?
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I'm I'm I'm getting hockey DV, that's what they're telling me.
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There's there's they're saying that he's he's 5'11 and a quarter, five eleven and a half.
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Look that up.
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Hold on, and you know what?
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It's a lot of I don't believe the height stats until they officially do it at the combine, so until now, because I've seen a lot of stats change in years prior.
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That's what they're saying.
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Well, okay, that's what they're saying.
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And then Dimas Jilkin is 5'11 even.
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Okay, well, you know what?
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Listen, I'm actually gonna go see both of them play coming up.
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So I got uh Landon DuPont on the 23rd, so Friday, and then uh Dimas Jilkin, I don't know when he's in town, but uh, I mean I might make a little drive up to uh SAGs to see him.
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So, but uh yeah, I I'll believe it when I see it.
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If listen, like you said, if if if Landon DuPont you know is measured over six feet, then I I I it'd be hard to lose that first overall spot.
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When we when we start to talk about DuPont, I'm gonna talk about how I think this is a different level of defensive prospect that we just haven't seen.
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I think he is going to he's having a better draft season than Matthew Schaefer.
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Um, which hold on, let me let me re let me restate that because Matthew Schaefer played 17 games.
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Give me a second.
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We're you're thinking about Matthew Schaefer and his rookie year and the superstar Matthew Schaefer.
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I'm talking about Matthew Schaefer, the guy who played 17 games, and we're like, okay, he's really good, but is he number one?
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So Yeah, but I mean, you know, you saw glimpses of uh of Matthew Schaefer at the World Juniors, although it was a limited amount of time, but I mean the speed, the speed.
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Well, no, he had the pre pre-limb games, so it wasn't, you know, I mean, like we saw something.
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I Well, we're we're hold on, we're derailing this to make this DuPont's episode, but we'll we'll we'll talk about that when we get there.
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Um, but what I'm saying with with Jilkin is that I think uh the tools are there for him if if he can increase his skating speed, if he can keep up this production, if he can keep that goal pace that he's got going on, because that is ridiculous, 12 goals in 11 games, um, if he can keep fighting those lanes for these passes, there's no telling where he can go.
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I think he that he can challenge DuPont.
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Uh uh, do I think DuPont's in another stratosphere currently?
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Yes.
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Um, do I think Demon Shilkin is currently the hottest prospect on the market?
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Yes.
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All right.
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These two are both in a very solid wave, and we're waiting for the Russians to sort of blow up and and make their draft cases a little bit more loud and clear, waiting for some other guys as well.
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But it's it's Jilkin is really taking a hold of a lot of slow starts out the gate for some struct for some prospects.
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Yeah, I mean, and you know, like I said, I think it I think that it's the other intangibles about his game.
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You know, last year too, he had like 100 penalty minutes, so he's not he's not afraid to get into the thick of things.
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He's got a little bit of attitude on the ice.
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I, you know, and he's the captain of Segana was a captain last year.
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He was the captain when he was 16.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's he's uh, you know, he's he's proven that on and off the ice that this is a very competent prospect.
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So um, yeah, I I think I'm I'm not there yet that he's gonna compete with Landon DuPont for first overall.
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However, I do see him climbing up the rankings, and I you know, I loved his game last year with Saginaw.
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Watched a lot of Saginaw games, you know that, and uh yeah, he was one that I was like, yeah.
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God, this kid, he's blowing my mind.
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He's great.
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I'll say it again.
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I love Klepov too.
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Klepov's great.
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I'll say it again, though.
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Like I didn't, I'm not advocating for him first overall right now, but I saw people say he could be the guy.
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Oh my god, you see that every year, like last year.
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They they know they bumped.
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Uh it's it's it's you know what it's gonna happen.
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Last year, look, like I think at one point fourth overall.
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Like, come on, come on.
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We could say the quiet part out loud.
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We know who said it.
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Um come on.
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Um, but no, it look, I uh Zilkin, that's the fact that he's even garnering this even type of talk should just be indicative of what type of movie collecting.
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Exactly.
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I'm a fan.
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Um I also I also wanted to point out as well, uh, we were recording this on October 20th, uh of 2026.
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He turns 18 tomorrow, October 21st, 2026.
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So uh maybe that turns some people away because he's one of the older players in this draft class, but he's mature.
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Um, he is he's already showing that he's one of the smartest players in the in the OHL, let alone the CAHL, let alone junior hockey.
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So I but you know what I think there's an exception here.
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You know, okay, I mentioned the 2008 thing, and I said that you gotta watch that because last year he put over well over a point a game in his D minus one season, even though he's a 2008 born.
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He had 75 points in 59 games, 36 goals.
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And this year, like I said, if he busts over 100 points, then those that's the progression that you want to see.
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You always want to see progression in players, and you know, and this happens all the time in a draft year.
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A player blows up in their numbers and in the CHL, and then their D plus one season, they kind of plateau or they actually drop.
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He is proving so we get we got a glimpse into the future that he's actually you know doing what he's supposed to be doing.
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I and I love that in a player.
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Uh, if he pops over six feet, then this, in my opinion, he might be the consensus second overall.
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Like, just give it to him already, especially if he pops over I'm there with you.
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Yeah, I'm there with you.
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But uh, if yeah, if like again, his brother, like you said, is six two.
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So, hey, if you can reach that six one plateau, watch out.
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It's gonna be Zilkin Mania when it comes comes draft day.
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And we're gonna be there.
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Are we gonna go, Link?
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Are we going?
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Are we wherever it is?
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We're going all right, cool.
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I I've heard a rumor that it's gonna be uh down here in Philly, Mark.
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So we're gonna have a great time.
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That's another I'll be there.
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Mark Bell's on Mark, Mark.
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Tell your mom.
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Well, well, pop, I I got my uh my grandfather staying here, so I don't know how much how much room I'll have.
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Okay, me and him will drink some of that uh stuff that you got.
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No, you're you're you're for sure.
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If it's in Philly, you're coming over.
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We're we're we're we're we're getting we're getting knocked on Kruppnik.
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And we're gonna love it.
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Yeah, we'll make we'll make you some Caesars too.
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But uh last thing last thing I want to point out with uh with with Dan with Demas Jilkin um too, he is committed to Michigan for next season.
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Now we have seen with some prospects that have looked very good in this early start of the season.
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Some of them have gone to the NCAA mid middle of the season.
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We saw this with Tynan Lawrence last year.
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We saw this with uh Will Horckoff in his draft year, both of whom generally I think increased their draft stock.
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I feel like Tynan Lawrence would have fallen, would have fallen lower if he hadn't had made that jump, and he looked pretty good towards the end of the season.
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Same with Will Horkov.
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He wasn't really making a ton of noise until he went to Michigan.
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Now, is this a path for the team to take?
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I mean, you know what?
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The thing is with those two aforementioned prospects is that one, well, um, they were coming out of USHL and NTDP, right?
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CHL is a good breeding ground for for prospects.
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I mean, unless you do it at the beginning of the season, I don't know.
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I I don't know how how that plays out.
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I mean, it'd be pretty cool to see him play at Michigan.
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Okay, however, if he remains in Saginaw and he keeps on putting up these monster numbers and has a decent, you know, run in the playoffs and maybe even to the Mem Cup, then why would you want to do that?
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I'm just saying it's an option.
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I'm just putting it out there as as maybe if it happens, maybe not.
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We'll see.
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Yeah, we'll see what happens.
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But uh, anyways, that's it for this episode.
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Dima Jilkin.
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Man, that was fun.
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I love the kid.
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We're gonna keep our eyes uh the whole season, obviously.
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Yeah, Dima Dima's the boy, he's been racking up some points.
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Uh, and yeah, I we just needed to talk about him first before we got to really anybody else.
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We we've talked about push the boy.
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Maybe we'll do because I feel like you and I are itching to talk about DuPont.
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I don't think you understand, I don't think you're ready for me to to glaze DuPont as much as I'm about to glaze.
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Let's do DuPont next week because I'm gonna see him on Friday, and then uh and we'll record on the uh on the weekend.
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And uh, yeah, let's do that.
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Okay, so DuPont's the next one for sure.
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Okay.
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All right, that's it then for this episode.
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Thanks for watching and listening, and we'll see you soon.
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Cheers.
