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Welcome back to another episode of the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast with your hosts Jodi Rosko and Heather Fisher.
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We're talking about all things downsizing, from our own experiences with clients to guest experts.
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Let's make downsizing easier, one conversation at a time.
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Hi, welcome to another episode of the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast.
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Downsizing Regret.
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Have you ever asked yourself, what if I get rid of something I need later?
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I think that's a question we hear a lot.
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Um and when we do our um classes, we hear people, that's one of the things that people say, hey, well, what if I need it?
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Or what if I'm gonna like they're just they're just concerned about, you know.
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In fact, I think we just had that at our last class.
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That was one of the questions was, you know, what if I'm gonna need it?
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Like I just look at stuff and I just can't let it go because I feel like I might, I might need it.
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So yeah, it can be such a paralyzing thought because it can, you know, just kind of snowball once you give into that mindset, you could apply that answer or, you know, that question to everything in your house.
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Right.
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And we know from you know, the stats we give in our class, the average American home has 300,000 items.
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Right.
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And they're all kind of in that.
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I mean, yes, I might need it later.
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Um, but it's digging a little deeper to the reality of whether you actually will or not, or how big of a deal is it if you do.
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Right.
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Because I think honestly, sometimes we will we might get rid of something, and then of course, the next, you know, we've held on it for 12, 20, 30 years, and then the next month after we get rid of it, we're like, wait, didn't we have that?
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And it, you know, but there are so few times that that happens, I think, over you know, how many things you can let go of that I think that's something we can talk about.
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I'm Jodi Rosko.
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I'm Heather Fisher.
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And so, you know, number one, why does this fear feel so big?
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Um and I think um I think it's a mindset, actually.
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Um, I think that's what we were talking about when we taught that class.
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I think it's a mindset of um scarcity.
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And I think it comes from um feeling like you shouldn't waste things, feeling like you might not have the money to buy those things again later, um, you know, feeling nervous about that inability, you know, that holding on to things because you think, oh my gosh, like what if I can't get this again?
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Yeah, I think so many of us, whether it's generational or just um, you know, that phase in life when you're uh, you know, a young college student or you know, new to the workforce and and you just are in that more gathering mode, um, you know, you're you're accumulating things because you haven't had them before and you have them and we're just built with that DNA that's like, I need to keep these because I own them, because I might need them.
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And so then, you know, when we're in a a situation where we just have too much and it's having more of a negative effect on our life, preventing us from downsizing or adding to that mental clutter that we're dealing with all of the time, it's hard to switch that mindset and be okay with not having everything right there just in case.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I I have, I still have the ice cream maker.
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Okay, friends.
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We need to get Jody to the donation center.
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So I actually was talking to um, we we do uh uh locally we do a free community market.
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And so I was talking to one of the people that came to there, and she was giving away her juicer because she said she had, you know, it was one of those things that she thought she would do, and then she didn't.
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And so I'm like, I have the ice cream maper, but I hadn't brought it that day still.
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And she's like, I make ice cream all the time.
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I'll take it.
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My daughter will make ice cream with it.
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I'm like, Yeah, I will bring it next time for you.
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Yeah, you will get the ice cream maver.
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But again, like those, those things too, like I'm going to use it.
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Not, you know, like so, and then if you let that go, that regret of like you didn't do what you had thought you were going to do or told yourself you were going to do, right?
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So we have some science stuff mental because I love this, because there's always science behind our thoughts too.
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And so sometimes we think, uh, we're just it's a weakness or we need, you know, whatever.
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But there's always some science around, you know, why we're thinking.
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So um there was a study um done that they discovered that losing something tends to feel roughly twice as painful as gaining something of the same value.
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And so that's kind of that kind of stinks because like we we get that kind of dopamine hit when we get something.
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Yeah.
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But giving it away hurts twice as much as it did when of the you know, joy that we got when we got it.
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So, um, so that's hard, then that imbalance makes it difficult uh to get rid of things because you don't ever like to feel like you always want to feel like yay.
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Yes, yes.
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So another study we've talked about before, the endowment effect is back to the coffee mug story.
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The study they did um where they gave a group of college students um one half of the room they gave the mug.
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Uh, the second group who never owned the mug was asked what they would pay for for one.
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And so um the the group that had the mug was asked what they would sell it for, the other what they would buy it for, and the um owners of the mug were willing to were wanting twice as much as the buyers were willing to pay.
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And it was simply that ownership effect of just now being given something, but then taking that ownership feeling of it, and now I don't want to give it up.
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It's worth so much more.
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It's your job to shepherd it through life now, right?
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Like Yeah, yeah.
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So we, I mean, when you see these things in the studies, it makes so much sense why we're feeling the way we are.
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And um, I love it.
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I love when we look at the science behind it because I think once you know why you're feeling the way you are, it's much easier to shift how you feel.
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Right.
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You can accept that that is something you are thinking for a scientific reason, and then, you know, here's another one.
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So um it's called impact bias.
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And basically what it's saying is that people are really bad at predicting how they're gonna feel about future events.
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And so specifically, they tend to overestimate both how intense and how long-lasting their regret is going to be.
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So when they're holding that item, they're thinking, I'm gonna miss this like forever, like for the rest of my life so badly.
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And that's actually not true.
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Like, so um, the imagined regret is much, much more than the actual regret.
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And I know I've talked to you guys about, you know, getting rid of things in my kitchen and I don't even know what was in the boxes and I don't even remember it.
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But when I was holding those things, some sometimes I was feeling like, oh, I might need this or I might miss it.
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And my friend was like, You're good, you haven't used that in so long.
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And so I was like, You're right, I haven't.
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Um, but thinking that while I'm holding it, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, that feeling's gonna continue.
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Um, and honestly, it just didn't.
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Like it in fact, it so didn't continue that I don't even know what was in the boxes, like I can't even remember.
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Yeah, I think that ties in so well to the premise of the maybe box that we've talked about over and over, is that if you're still, you know, you're hearing the science and you're like, okay, but I don't quite trust you guys yet that that's gonna be okay.
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The maybe box is that perfect filler time, uh, but doing it, you know, the way we're suggesting is the key, is that you're putting the items in there and then sealing it up with that date.
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And if you are not feeling that regret enough the day you put things in or you quickly forget what's in the box, you just send it on its way to donation when that date comes up without opening it.
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Yeah, because you've really already made the decision.
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So you don't need to open it and make a decision again and open that whole, you know the ownership and the the fear of the question again.
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Right.
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The anticipated regret that you're gonna have and all of that, which has a big difference between the regret you've experienced for you know for real.
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So the only way the only reason you would open that maybe box is you know specifically what's in it, right?
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And you went and got it.
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Like that's it.
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Yes, that's it.
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Yeah.
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Um and so and you decided you, you know, needed to actually use it, not because you were just you know feeling regret around it, but you were gonna wear it or you were gonna use it or whatever that is.
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So yeah.
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So let's talk about what's actually irreplaceable, right?
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So um, and it's honestly if I mean it's not much.
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We've talked about that 80-20 rule a lot.
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You know, we only use 20% of our stuff, but um so you can ask yourself to figure out whether it's actually replaceable.
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There's some questions like does this serve the life that I'm actually living now, or did it serve a life that I used to live or a life that I imagined?
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Right?
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I imagined myself making ice cream.
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I think I did it once.
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We all have.
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I think I did it once.
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Um, so that was my imagined life.
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And so I'm like not letting go of my imagined life and still saying, Oh, I still might do that.
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I still might do that.
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But like the reality of that is I haven't and I'm probably not going to.
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Yeah.
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Um, another question if I didn't already own this, would I go out and buy it today?
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So that's yeah, and that can be um day-to-day things.
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If I don't have any silverware, am I going to go buy some?
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You know, that's those are the things that you're using daily out of necessity.
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Um, you know, that you would miss so much that you would turn right back around and go buy another if something happened to the one that you have.
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Yeah.
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Um, can this be replaced, borrowed, or substituted?
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Um, and what would that actually cost in time or money compared to storing it indefinitely?
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Um and remember, there's a there's a cost to storing things um that is mental.
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It's there's an anxiety cost to having too many things in your life.
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Um and so even if it's you're thinking there's no cost to storing it, it's just in my basement and I own my house anyway.
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But there is a cost to um having too many things around and a mental cost.
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But um, you know, sometimes substituted, sometimes you think you need some specific, you know, one you know job tool, uh, like in the kitchen, um, the avocado peeler or something, right?
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But you could use a knife.
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And so, like, do you need that specific thing?
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If you are in love with your avocado peeler, fantastic.
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Uh, you know, slicer, great.
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Um, but but if you, you know, it's in the drawer and it's just kind of a one-time use thing, um, and you could use a knife, uh, maybe you don't need that.
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Yeah, I think noticing as well when you own those things, but it's quicker and easier to grab for the knife and the, you know, or the scissors, whatever you need, and you don't need that one.
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You own it already, but you're not using it because it's not ease of use.
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Um, you know, don't fool yourself by saying, Well, yes, yeah, I'll use it.
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I think the borrow.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's cool.
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You think it's a cool, you know, gadget, right?
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But you don't find yourself reaching for it.
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Yeah.
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Um, I think the borrow works so great with tools.
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Like, you know, maybe you used to use a lot of tools, but now, you know, you're gonna use a miter saw, you know, maybe once every few years, if at all.
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Um, maybe you used to do, you know, a lot of you know home projects or whatever.
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Um, but you could borrow that or you could rent that.
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Like, I mean, there are there are um versus just having again so much stuff.
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Yeah.
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So what are other options?
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Can it be replaced?
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Can it be borrowed?
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Can it be substituted?
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Yeah, or um, is this genuinely a one-of-a-kind item or standing in for a memory?
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Um that that's where you're feeling that attachment to it.
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Um maybe the memory doesn't actually need the thing.
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Maybe you can have the memory without the thing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so deciding through those, um, you know, what would the the regret be?
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And is there another way you can reduce or honor the memory, the story, the person uh without the bulk of all of this stuff.
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Right.
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And so so let's we could build a little system of backup for some of that stuff.
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So um we've already talked about the maybe box as that's one thing that could be as part of that system.
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Um you could take pictures of things.
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You can um digitize uh paper items, you know, you could take pictures of cards or digitize, you know, if you have a bunch of greeting cards or um paperwork that you think is important, um, or photos, you could digitize those.
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Kids' artwork, you could um digitize that kind of stuff.
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Any kind of awards or those kind of things, instead of maybe keeping that physical bulk, um, you could put that together uh into digital, you know, which is a whole nother we can get into digital and keeping too much digital stuff too.
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But sometimes I think that's important.
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And sometimes um the story around the thing doesn't mean that you have to keep the thing.
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And if you want to take a picture of it just in case you might want to remember the story that way, that's that's okay.
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And and definitely what you just said there, you don't have to keep the thing.
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I think you can also take a step back from that and say you don't have to keep all the things, you know, because there are categories that are genuinely irreplaceable photos, letters, heirlooms, but it's taking that, you know, bird's eye view of the volume of all of those things and how much have you thrown into that category and said, you know, well, we could never replace this, but you've put so much in that category that you can't even enjoy it or share the stories because it's too much.
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Um, so we certainly have talked about that many times.
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Um, but just making sure those um categories that do hold those irreplaceable things are held in a way that you can honor them and enjoy them um instead of getting lost in too much of them.
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Right.
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Um another thing you could do is ask your family or friends if they want something.
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And I'm not saying tell them to take it.
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That's different than asking them if they want it.
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Question.
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Ask.
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Yeah.
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So um remember, guilt's not a gift, right?
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So we want to make sure that we're um they're only taking things that they really, really want.
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Um, and we're not trying to push our inability to make a decision onto them because we're just kind of kicking that can down the road.
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That's not fair.
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But sometimes they are gonna want things.
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Um, there's gonna be things that they want.
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And so before you let go of something, if you're feeling maybe guilty about letting it go or feeling like you might need it, um, maybe, maybe there is somebody who would take it.
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And then if you decide you need it, you can borrow it back for a minute, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Another uh backup system is um, you know, a parameter around your just in case category.
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Um, so this is, you know, saying, okay, I can keep tools, but only uh what will fit on this workbench, or I'm keeping, you know, books, but only what fits in this bookcase.
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And so if there's a um category that you're struggling with it and feeling like you're gonna regret, it's taking smaller baby steps and you know, making some initial decisions and then keeping some stuff just for comfort, knowing that you have that parameter.
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Um, but the parameter is the key.
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Yeah it's deciding what space is enough so that you are still um needing to make some decisions and not keeping it all.
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Uh without that parameter, it just becomes back to where you're starting at with the keep everything because you're pushing that decision down the road.
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Right.
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And we're not saying to get rid of everything.
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We're never ever saying that.
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There are things that are irreplaceable and you should keep them.
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And there are things that you love and that make you, you know, remember times in your lives or things about yourself and your legacy or things about family members.
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And if those things are super important, keep them.
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It's just not that everything is that.
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I think that's the mindset difference.
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And I think um sometimes when you're coming from that scarcity mindset, it gets confused with how much importance you're giving things that don't necessarily need that importance.
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Some things are definitely more important than others.
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I think that's something to remember.
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Not everything has the same level of importance.
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Yeah, I think we just want to give you some tools to work through these decisions so that your fear of loss stops running the show and and keeps you, you know, where you don't want to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So um we back to the science of, you know, what what what regret are you actually signing up for, right?
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So when you're looking at it and you're thinking about, you're feeling regret about it, then can you relate that to those science things that we had just talked about?
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Um, and and which one is it that you're actually feeling when you're looking at that thing?
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Is it um that the regret uh over some actions that you've taken sting hardest in the short term, but they don't um they don't take it's not over a lifetime, remember that that one where we were talking, like it's gonna feel twice as bad letting go of it as it did to get it, but it's not gonna feel like that for long.
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So thinking in your head, oh my gosh, I'm gonna always feel this same level of regret is not accurate.
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So can you just tell yourself, I mean, you know, yeah.
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I feel it let let myself feel that for a minute and be like, ugh, yeah, I wish I had made ice cream.
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I spent money on this thing.
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But, you know, it's okay.
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Yeah, the I think it's human nature that we'll all feel that little pang of regret or questioning our decision in that moment, but it's almost always short-lived and solvable.
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If you truly got rid of something that you need, it's almost always solvable to you know, use that backup method or get another one quickly.
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Yeah.
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I mean, in the in this big scheme of it, if I five years down the road decide I am going to become, you know, Ben and Jerry's next big thing.
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Um I hope we're still friends.
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I love ice cream.
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Um, I could buy another ice cream maker.
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Yeah.
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Um, I could.
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Um, but and so if that happens, if you uh let go of all of these things and there is something that you think, you know, that was a mistake.
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I shouldn't have let go of that.
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I do want to actually go by that again.
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I feel like I need it.
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I'm going to do whatever with it.
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Um don't put that into everything.
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Letting go of things is a mistake, right?
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It isn't this, it isn't like then an overarching, you know, oh my gosh, I let go of these things.
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I let go of a hundred things.
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And one thing I decided I shouldn't have let go of that.
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Um 99 things were great decisions, right?
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So remember that part too, and don't, you know, beat yourself up about it and don't start feeling like, oh, I should keep it all because remember that one thing that I should have, you know, not have gotten rid of and I did.
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Don't let your mind play those tricks on you.
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Yeah, I think the flip side of um, you know, giving into that fear of regret on these things we're talking about that are, you know, easier to replace and um that we, you know, just know if you trust the process, you won't have long-term regret over 99% of them.
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Um, the other side is that if you don't do anything and you get paralyzed in that fear, is what we have seen is that your regret is that you didn't downsize.
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You are still dealing with too much stuff, or maybe that's kept you in a place that isn't working for you, and you are just regretting that you didn't get started sooner, or get rid of more things, or have someone help you.
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Um, so we see that so much.
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And so um, you know, that's when we see people get to that next place and they've kept too much, and they're still not living that free um daily life because they're still around boxes where there's nothing to unpack, but they're also not enjoying those things or using those things.
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Um, it's just a mindset of knowing if you can get past that one side of feeling like I'm gonna regret this, you avoid that big regret of I didn't do it.
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Yeah, because remember, we talk about this a lot in the beginning.
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You our goal in general is to make sure that you're ready, whenever that is.
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If you're downsizing just to, you know, live a more free life in your current house, great.
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If you're downsizing because you want to make a move uh now or you know in the near future, um, then that's also great.
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What whatever your reasoning is, um, we just want you to be doing it so that nothing, you know, there's not some kind of a crisis that happens and then you aren't able to make the decisions, right?
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You know, and that regret that we see happen with people is what we don't want to have happen.
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That Regret is now I'm not physically capable of doing it.
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Or now my my partner has to do it, all of it, because you know, I can't help.
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Or now my kids are making those decisions, you know, instead of me making those decisions.
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Um and so those regrets are actually bigger than the regret that you're gonna feel just getting rid of each individual um thing.
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So um push through that that mindset of scarcity.
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It's it definitely is a fear.
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It's a scarcity mindset of you know, feeling like I'm not gonna be able to get this again, or um not wanting to feel that in the moment and thinking that that's a big feeling in the moment um and that uh it's always gonna be that big.
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Um and it just it just won't.
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That's a science thing.
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So just tell yourself that when you start to feel like that.
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That's a science thing, and my brain is telling me that because I'm wired to keep the things I have.
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Yeah, in the moment it feels like so much, but um you know, you telling us your kitchen story and and me going through um two different moves in the last few years, once you get past that, there's so much that you truly don't miss and can't remember.
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I I mean, uh in two household moves, I can't, I mean, probably two, three trucks full of stuff I've donated or given different places.
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And I I was talking with my daughter not too long ago and talking about that, I'm like, I really can't remember what we even gave away.
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And also someone else is using that stuff and getting um their needs met by the furniture we donated or the household goods or the linens.
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So adopting that mindset of um, you know, that well, will I miss this?
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Thinking about how much someone else will gain by having those things that maybe you're not using.
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And if it's something super important, don't let it go.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think that's the other part of it.
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Um it's just that remember, not everything has the same level of importance.
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And so you can't you can't look at it like that, but keep the things that are important.
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That's actually what we want our lives to be surrounded by, the things that bring us, you know, joy that we want to display, that we, you know, aren't packed away for special times and you know, all of that stuff.
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We want to keep that stuff.
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Um, and so if you're feeling um like you can't get started um because you might regret letting things go, I would probably start with the maybe box.
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I think that's where I would really get myself started.
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Um, just because I think that's your, you know, your fail-safe that it's it's still here if you really need it.
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Um but I think you'll find that you don't even remember what's in the maybe box.
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Yeah, and I think starting with easy categories, um, always start with some things that will give you some momentum that you're not going to feel this, you know, regret attached to.
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You will feel so good.
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We just had a client that um, you know, has been thinking about downsizing for a while, but she's got a timeline in place now.
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So she's really uh getting started to prepare for a move.
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And um, she started with an easy area in the kitchen and uh was able in a few hours to um just make some quick decisions and um pull in some resources to help get some things out of the house for her and uh in talking with her, just the happiness in her voice to have that momentum going and to be started on that path is exactly what we want for all of you.
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Um, just getting started and realizing um, you know, for most of the decisions, there will be no regret at all.
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And if there is a tinge of regret, it's short-lived and you won't be thinking about it, you know, by the time the Maybe Box it comes due to be donated.
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And um, you know, if it is that one out of a hundred things that you wish you had again, it's almost always easy and quick to replace.
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Yep, so get started.
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Um, we have great uh resources at downsizingroadmap.com.
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Check those out.
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You don't have to do this alone.
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Yes, we'll talk to you next time.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast with your hosts Jodi Rosko and Heather Fisher.
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We're talking about all things downsizing, from our own experiences with clients to guest experts.
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Let's make downsizing easier, one conversation at a time.
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Hi, welcome to another episode of the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast.
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Downsizing Regret.
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Have you ever asked yourself, what if I get rid of something I need later?
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I think that's a question we hear a lot.
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Um and when we do our um classes, we hear people, that's one of the things that people say, hey, well, what if I need it?
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Or what if I'm gonna like they're just they're just concerned about, you know.
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In fact, I think we just had that at our last class.
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That was one of the questions was, you know, what if I'm gonna need it?
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Like I just look at stuff and I just can't let it go because I feel like I might, I might need it.
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So yeah, it can be such a paralyzing thought because it can, you know, just kind of snowball once you give into that mindset, you could apply that answer or, you know, that question to everything in your house.
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Right.
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And we know from you know, the stats we give in our class, the average American home has 300,000 items.
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Right.
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And they're all kind of in that.
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I mean, yes, I might need it later.
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Um, but it's digging a little deeper to the reality of whether you actually will or not, or how big of a deal is it if you do.
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Right.
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Because I think honestly, sometimes we will we might get rid of something, and then of course, the next, you know, we've held on it for 12, 20, 30 years, and then the next month after we get rid of it, we're like, wait, didn't we have that?
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And it, you know, but there are so few times that that happens, I think, over you know, how many things you can let go of that I think that's something we can talk about.
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I'm Jodi Rosko.
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I'm Heather Fisher.
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And so, you know, number one, why does this fear feel so big?
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Um and I think um I think it's a mindset, actually.
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Um, I think that's what we were talking about when we taught that class.
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I think it's a mindset of um scarcity.
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And I think it comes from um feeling like you shouldn't waste things, feeling like you might not have the money to buy those things again later, um, you know, feeling nervous about that inability, you know, that holding on to things because you think, oh my gosh, like what if I can't get this again?
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Yeah, I think so many of us, whether it's generational or just um, you know, that phase in life when you're uh, you know, a young college student or you know, new to the workforce and and you just are in that more gathering mode, um, you know, you're you're accumulating things because you haven't had them before and you have them and we're just built with that DNA that's like, I need to keep these because I own them, because I might need them.
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And so then, you know, when we're in a a situation where we just have too much and it's having more of a negative effect on our life, preventing us from downsizing or adding to that mental clutter that we're dealing with all of the time, it's hard to switch that mindset and be okay with not having everything right there just in case.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I I have, I still have the ice cream maker.
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Okay, friends.
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We need to get Jody to the donation center.
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So I actually was talking to um, we we do uh uh locally we do a free community market.
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And so I was talking to one of the people that came to there, and she was giving away her juicer because she said she had, you know, it was one of those things that she thought she would do, and then she didn't.
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And so I'm like, I have the ice cream maper, but I hadn't brought it that day still.
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And she's like, I make ice cream all the time.
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I'll take it.
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My daughter will make ice cream with it.
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I'm like, Yeah, I will bring it next time for you.
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Yeah, you will get the ice cream maver.
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But again, like those, those things too, like I'm going to use it.
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Not, you know, like so, and then if you let that go, that regret of like you didn't do what you had thought you were going to do or told yourself you were going to do, right?
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So we have some science stuff mental because I love this, because there's always science behind our thoughts too.
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And so sometimes we think, uh, we're just it's a weakness or we need, you know, whatever.
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But there's always some science around, you know, why we're thinking.
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So um there was a study um done that they discovered that losing something tends to feel roughly twice as painful as gaining something of the same value.
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And so that's kind of that kind of stinks because like we we get that kind of dopamine hit when we get something.
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Yeah.
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But giving it away hurts twice as much as it did when of the you know, joy that we got when we got it.
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So, um, so that's hard, then that imbalance makes it difficult uh to get rid of things because you don't ever like to feel like you always want to feel like yay.
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Yes, yes.
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So another study we've talked about before, the endowment effect is back to the coffee mug story.
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The study they did um where they gave a group of college students um one half of the room they gave the mug.
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Uh, the second group who never owned the mug was asked what they would pay for for one.
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And so um the the group that had the mug was asked what they would sell it for, the other what they would buy it for, and the um owners of the mug were willing to were wanting twice as much as the buyers were willing to pay.
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And it was simply that ownership effect of just now being given something, but then taking that ownership feeling of it, and now I don't want to give it up.
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It's worth so much more.
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It's your job to shepherd it through life now, right?
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Like Yeah, yeah.
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So we, I mean, when you see these things in the studies, it makes so much sense why we're feeling the way we are.
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And um, I love it.
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I love when we look at the science behind it because I think once you know why you're feeling the way you are, it's much easier to shift how you feel.
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Right.
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You can accept that that is something you are thinking for a scientific reason, and then, you know, here's another one.
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So um it's called impact bias.
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And basically what it's saying is that people are really bad at predicting how they're gonna feel about future events.
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And so specifically, they tend to overestimate both how intense and how long-lasting their regret is going to be.
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So when they're holding that item, they're thinking, I'm gonna miss this like forever, like for the rest of my life so badly.
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And that's actually not true.
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Like, so um, the imagined regret is much, much more than the actual regret.
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And I know I've talked to you guys about, you know, getting rid of things in my kitchen and I don't even know what was in the boxes and I don't even remember it.
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But when I was holding those things, some sometimes I was feeling like, oh, I might need this or I might miss it.
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And my friend was like, You're good, you haven't used that in so long.
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And so I was like, You're right, I haven't.
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Um, but thinking that while I'm holding it, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, that feeling's gonna continue.
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Um, and honestly, it just didn't.
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Like it in fact, it so didn't continue that I don't even know what was in the boxes, like I can't even remember.
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Yeah, I think that ties in so well to the premise of the maybe box that we've talked about over and over, is that if you're still, you know, you're hearing the science and you're like, okay, but I don't quite trust you guys yet that that's gonna be okay.
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The maybe box is that perfect filler time, uh, but doing it, you know, the way we're suggesting is the key, is that you're putting the items in there and then sealing it up with that date.
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And if you are not feeling that regret enough the day you put things in or you quickly forget what's in the box, you just send it on its way to donation when that date comes up without opening it.
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Yeah, because you've really already made the decision.
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So you don't need to open it and make a decision again and open that whole, you know the ownership and the the fear of the question again.
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Right.
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The anticipated regret that you're gonna have and all of that, which has a big difference between the regret you've experienced for you know for real.
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So the only way the only reason you would open that maybe box is you know specifically what's in it, right?
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And you went and got it.
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Like that's it.
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Yes, that's it.
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Yeah.
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Um and so and you decided you, you know, needed to actually use it, not because you were just you know feeling regret around it, but you were gonna wear it or you were gonna use it or whatever that is.
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So yeah.
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So let's talk about what's actually irreplaceable, right?
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So um, and it's honestly if I mean it's not much.
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We've talked about that 80-20 rule a lot.
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You know, we only use 20% of our stuff, but um so you can ask yourself to figure out whether it's actually replaceable.
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There's some questions like does this serve the life that I'm actually living now, or did it serve a life that I used to live or a life that I imagined?
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Right?
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I imagined myself making ice cream.
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I think I did it once.
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We all have.
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I think I did it once.
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Um, so that was my imagined life.
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And so I'm like not letting go of my imagined life and still saying, Oh, I still might do that.
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I still might do that.
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But like the reality of that is I haven't and I'm probably not going to.
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Yeah.
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Um, another question if I didn't already own this, would I go out and buy it today?
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So that's yeah, and that can be um day-to-day things.
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If I don't have any silverware, am I going to go buy some?
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You know, that's those are the things that you're using daily out of necessity.
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Um, you know, that you would miss so much that you would turn right back around and go buy another if something happened to the one that you have.
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Yeah.
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Um, can this be replaced, borrowed, or substituted?
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Um, and what would that actually cost in time or money compared to storing it indefinitely?
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Um and remember, there's a there's a cost to storing things um that is mental.
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It's there's an anxiety cost to having too many things in your life.
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Um and so even if it's you're thinking there's no cost to storing it, it's just in my basement and I own my house anyway.
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But there is a cost to um having too many things around and a mental cost.
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But um, you know, sometimes substituted, sometimes you think you need some specific, you know, one you know job tool, uh, like in the kitchen, um, the avocado peeler or something, right?
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But you could use a knife.
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And so, like, do you need that specific thing?
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If you are in love with your avocado peeler, fantastic.
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Uh, you know, slicer, great.
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Um, but but if you, you know, it's in the drawer and it's just kind of a one-time use thing, um, and you could use a knife, uh, maybe you don't need that.
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Yeah, I think noticing as well when you own those things, but it's quicker and easier to grab for the knife and the, you know, or the scissors, whatever you need, and you don't need that one.
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You own it already, but you're not using it because it's not ease of use.
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Um, you know, don't fool yourself by saying, Well, yes, yeah, I'll use it.
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I think the borrow.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's cool.
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You think it's a cool, you know, gadget, right?
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But you don't find yourself reaching for it.
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Yeah.
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Um, I think the borrow works so great with tools.
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Like, you know, maybe you used to use a lot of tools, but now, you know, you're gonna use a miter saw, you know, maybe once every few years, if at all.
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Um, maybe you used to do, you know, a lot of you know home projects or whatever.
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Um, but you could borrow that or you could rent that.
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Like, I mean, there are there are um versus just having again so much stuff.
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Yeah.
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So what are other options?
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Can it be replaced?
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Can it be borrowed?
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Can it be substituted?
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Yeah, or um, is this genuinely a one-of-a-kind item or standing in for a memory?
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Um that that's where you're feeling that attachment to it.
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Um maybe the memory doesn't actually need the thing.
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Maybe you can have the memory without the thing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so deciding through those, um, you know, what would the the regret be?
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And is there another way you can reduce or honor the memory, the story, the person uh without the bulk of all of this stuff.
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Right.
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And so so let's we could build a little system of backup for some of that stuff.
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So um we've already talked about the maybe box as that's one thing that could be as part of that system.
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Um you could take pictures of things.
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You can um digitize uh paper items, you know, you could take pictures of cards or digitize, you know, if you have a bunch of greeting cards or um paperwork that you think is important, um, or photos, you could digitize those.
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Kids' artwork, you could um digitize that kind of stuff.
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Any kind of awards or those kind of things, instead of maybe keeping that physical bulk, um, you could put that together uh into digital, you know, which is a whole nother we can get into digital and keeping too much digital stuff too.
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But sometimes I think that's important.
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And sometimes um the story around the thing doesn't mean that you have to keep the thing.
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And if you want to take a picture of it just in case you might want to remember the story that way, that's that's okay.
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And and definitely what you just said there, you don't have to keep the thing.
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I think you can also take a step back from that and say you don't have to keep all the things, you know, because there are categories that are genuinely irreplaceable photos, letters, heirlooms, but it's taking that, you know, bird's eye view of the volume of all of those things and how much have you thrown into that category and said, you know, well, we could never replace this, but you've put so much in that category that you can't even enjoy it or share the stories because it's too much.
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Um, so we certainly have talked about that many times.
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Um, but just making sure those um categories that do hold those irreplaceable things are held in a way that you can honor them and enjoy them um instead of getting lost in too much of them.
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Right.
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Um another thing you could do is ask your family or friends if they want something.
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And I'm not saying tell them to take it.
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That's different than asking them if they want it.
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Question.
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Ask.
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Yeah.
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So um remember, guilt's not a gift, right?
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So we want to make sure that we're um they're only taking things that they really, really want.
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Um, and we're not trying to push our inability to make a decision onto them because we're just kind of kicking that can down the road.
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That's not fair.
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But sometimes they are gonna want things.
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Um, there's gonna be things that they want.
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And so before you let go of something, if you're feeling maybe guilty about letting it go or feeling like you might need it, um, maybe, maybe there is somebody who would take it.
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And then if you decide you need it, you can borrow it back for a minute, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Another uh backup system is um, you know, a parameter around your just in case category.
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Um, so this is, you know, saying, okay, I can keep tools, but only uh what will fit on this workbench, or I'm keeping, you know, books, but only what fits in this bookcase.
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And so if there's a um category that you're struggling with it and feeling like you're gonna regret, it's taking smaller baby steps and you know, making some initial decisions and then keeping some stuff just for comfort, knowing that you have that parameter.
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Um, but the parameter is the key.
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Yeah it's deciding what space is enough so that you are still um needing to make some decisions and not keeping it all.
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Uh without that parameter, it just becomes back to where you're starting at with the keep everything because you're pushing that decision down the road.
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Right.
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And we're not saying to get rid of everything.
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We're never ever saying that.
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There are things that are irreplaceable and you should keep them.
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And there are things that you love and that make you, you know, remember times in your lives or things about yourself and your legacy or things about family members.
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And if those things are super important, keep them.
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It's just not that everything is that.
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I think that's the mindset difference.
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And I think um sometimes when you're coming from that scarcity mindset, it gets confused with how much importance you're giving things that don't necessarily need that importance.
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Some things are definitely more important than others.
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I think that's something to remember.
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Not everything has the same level of importance.
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Yeah, I think we just want to give you some tools to work through these decisions so that your fear of loss stops running the show and and keeps you, you know, where you don't want to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So um we back to the science of, you know, what what what regret are you actually signing up for, right?
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So when you're looking at it and you're thinking about, you're feeling regret about it, then can you relate that to those science things that we had just talked about?
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Um, and and which one is it that you're actually feeling when you're looking at that thing?
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Is it um that the regret uh over some actions that you've taken sting hardest in the short term, but they don't um they don't take it's not over a lifetime, remember that that one where we were talking, like it's gonna feel twice as bad letting go of it as it did to get it, but it's not gonna feel like that for long.
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So thinking in your head, oh my gosh, I'm gonna always feel this same level of regret is not accurate.
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So can you just tell yourself, I mean, you know, yeah.
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I feel it let let myself feel that for a minute and be like, ugh, yeah, I wish I had made ice cream.
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I spent money on this thing.
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But, you know, it's okay.
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Yeah, the I think it's human nature that we'll all feel that little pang of regret or questioning our decision in that moment, but it's almost always short-lived and solvable.
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If you truly got rid of something that you need, it's almost always solvable to you know, use that backup method or get another one quickly.
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Yeah.
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I mean, in the in this big scheme of it, if I five years down the road decide I am going to become, you know, Ben and Jerry's next big thing.
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Um I hope we're still friends.
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I love ice cream.
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Um, I could buy another ice cream maker.
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Yeah.
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Um, I could.
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Um, but and so if that happens, if you uh let go of all of these things and there is something that you think, you know, that was a mistake.
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I shouldn't have let go of that.
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I do want to actually go by that again.
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I feel like I need it.
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I'm going to do whatever with it.
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Um don't put that into everything.
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Letting go of things is a mistake, right?
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It isn't this, it isn't like then an overarching, you know, oh my gosh, I let go of these things.
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I let go of a hundred things.
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And one thing I decided I shouldn't have let go of that.
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Um 99 things were great decisions, right?
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So remember that part too, and don't, you know, beat yourself up about it and don't start feeling like, oh, I should keep it all because remember that one thing that I should have, you know, not have gotten rid of and I did.
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Don't let your mind play those tricks on you.
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Yeah, I think the flip side of um, you know, giving into that fear of regret on these things we're talking about that are, you know, easier to replace and um that we, you know, just know if you trust the process, you won't have long-term regret over 99% of them.
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Um, the other side is that if you don't do anything and you get paralyzed in that fear, is what we have seen is that your regret is that you didn't downsize.
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You are still dealing with too much stuff, or maybe that's kept you in a place that isn't working for you, and you are just regretting that you didn't get started sooner, or get rid of more things, or have someone help you.
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Um, so we see that so much.
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And so um, you know, that's when we see people get to that next place and they've kept too much, and they're still not living that free um daily life because they're still around boxes where there's nothing to unpack, but they're also not enjoying those things or using those things.
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Um, it's just a mindset of knowing if you can get past that one side of feeling like I'm gonna regret this, you avoid that big regret of I didn't do it.
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Yeah, because remember, we talk about this a lot in the beginning.
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You our goal in general is to make sure that you're ready, whenever that is.
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If you're downsizing just to, you know, live a more free life in your current house, great.
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If you're downsizing because you want to make a move uh now or you know in the near future, um, then that's also great.
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What whatever your reasoning is, um, we just want you to be doing it so that nothing, you know, there's not some kind of a crisis that happens and then you aren't able to make the decisions, right?
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You know, and that regret that we see happen with people is what we don't want to have happen.
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That Regret is now I'm not physically capable of doing it.
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Or now my my partner has to do it, all of it, because you know, I can't help.
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Or now my kids are making those decisions, you know, instead of me making those decisions.
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Um and so those regrets are actually bigger than the regret that you're gonna feel just getting rid of each individual um thing.
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So um push through that that mindset of scarcity.
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It's it definitely is a fear.
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It's a scarcity mindset of you know, feeling like I'm not gonna be able to get this again, or um not wanting to feel that in the moment and thinking that that's a big feeling in the moment um and that uh it's always gonna be that big.
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Um and it just it just won't.
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That's a science thing.
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So just tell yourself that when you start to feel like that.
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That's a science thing, and my brain is telling me that because I'm wired to keep the things I have.
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Yeah, in the moment it feels like so much, but um you know, you telling us your kitchen story and and me going through um two different moves in the last few years, once you get past that, there's so much that you truly don't miss and can't remember.
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I I mean, uh in two household moves, I can't, I mean, probably two, three trucks full of stuff I've donated or given different places.
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And I I was talking with my daughter not too long ago and talking about that, I'm like, I really can't remember what we even gave away.
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And also someone else is using that stuff and getting um their needs met by the furniture we donated or the household goods or the linens.
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So adopting that mindset of um, you know, that well, will I miss this?
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Thinking about how much someone else will gain by having those things that maybe you're not using.
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And if it's something super important, don't let it go.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think that's the other part of it.
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Um it's just that remember, not everything has the same level of importance.
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And so you can't you can't look at it like that, but keep the things that are important.
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That's actually what we want our lives to be surrounded by, the things that bring us, you know, joy that we want to display, that we, you know, aren't packed away for special times and you know, all of that stuff.
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We want to keep that stuff.
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Um, and so if you're feeling um like you can't get started um because you might regret letting things go, I would probably start with the maybe box.
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I think that's where I would really get myself started.
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Um, just because I think that's your, you know, your fail-safe that it's it's still here if you really need it.
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Um but I think you'll find that you don't even remember what's in the maybe box.
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Yeah, and I think starting with easy categories, um, always start with some things that will give you some momentum that you're not going to feel this, you know, regret attached to.
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You will feel so good.
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We just had a client that um, you know, has been thinking about downsizing for a while, but she's got a timeline in place now.
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So she's really uh getting started to prepare for a move.
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And um, she started with an easy area in the kitchen and uh was able in a few hours to um just make some quick decisions and um pull in some resources to help get some things out of the house for her and uh in talking with her, just the happiness in her voice to have that momentum going and to be started on that path is exactly what we want for all of you.
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Um, just getting started and realizing um, you know, for most of the decisions, there will be no regret at all.
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And if there is a tinge of regret, it's short-lived and you won't be thinking about it, you know, by the time the Maybe Box it comes due to be donated.
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And um, you know, if it is that one out of a hundred things that you wish you had again, it's almost always easy and quick to replace.
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Yep, so get started.
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Um, we have great uh resources at downsizingroadmap.com.
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Check those out.
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You don't have to do this alone.
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Yes, we'll talk to you next time.
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