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Okay, okay, So without any further ado, here to talk
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about his pot is arm Show, the Daily Conspiracy podcast,
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and here to talk about some crazy conspiracies or maybe not.
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I hope you got your ten to four hats ready
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and your fatties rolled and you're icing your glass whatever
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you're gonna do. Man, I hope you're ready, because we're
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gonna sit back and this is gonna be a nose
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holes bog show. Ali, I mean, Lee is as as
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a foul mouth, so the same for the same for children.
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So if there's any kids, please tell them to leave
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the room or watch it later on. Now I'll call
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control a man's mouth. So anyways, here comes the filthiest
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mouth in the isle of men. It's mister Lee. I
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don't give a.
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How are you doing, guys? Necessarily on your intro is
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fucking incredible.
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I love that.
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For someone that is like a big nine inch Nails fan,
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anything that sort of industrial metal, I'm all over.
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And that was that was cool.
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Oh thank you.
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I can't take credit for it, though, because that did
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pop up somewhere online and it's all AI.
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The guy did the AI and he did the music.
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So hey, I was just a tool.
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It's like one of the big big things I hate
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at the minute is people that say, oh, you should
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use it, I shouldn't use an I like, look, it's
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a tool. It gets it gets the job done. Sometimes.
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There's plenty of stuff we do on the Daily Conspiracy podcast, like.
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Thumbnails and.
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The se ools and things like that we just simply
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wouldn't have time to do. Given the amount of episodes
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we put out through the week. We wouldn't have time
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to do them if we had to do them all
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by hand, like the old fashioned way. So like, it's
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it's it's a it is a cheat code creativity to
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get creative things.
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Out, absolutely absolutely, So how's it going, lad with the
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podcast so far?
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Good Man? Like, it was nice seeing some of the
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people that have that pop up in the chat so, like,
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I can I recognize some of the names from like
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back in the Alien Added days when we used to
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do live streams and stuff like that. We've since built ourselves, like, well.
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We're kind of a small cult now. I think it's.
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There's there's a We're in the world world garden of
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the of the Spotify work of the Spotify and podcast world.
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But no, it's good, like it's all.
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It's all gone. Well nice, glad to hear it, glad
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to hear it. So obviously talking about conspiracies. What has
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been the hot topic recently in regards of conspiracies? I
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was going to be aliens?
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Isn't it the fact that we're getting disclosure soon? Aren't we?
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Are we going to get given the aliens soon? I
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keep I keep being told we're getting given the aliens?
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Is that doctor Phil saying it?
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Doctor Phil saying it? The who who is the guy
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that got a load of load of views on TikTok
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to pretend to have an alien in his back garden?
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Oh Franco, Yeah, James Franco. Wouldn't it be wild if
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all of the things that's the thing that's actually real
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and it, wouldn't it be crazy?
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Well?
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Me and Nick was just talking after the show, before
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the show, after the show, before the show went before
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you came on, and we were talking about that the
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new alien video that's doing around with the A the
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A I one with the minute shows his fingers and stuff.
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I haven't seen this.
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You ain't seen that?
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No ship?
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Do you want to? Can you find it? Nick?
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I can go find it. It's almost like the Skinny
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Bob two point oh mate, yeah, making its round.
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Recently, right, See, skinny Bob has always been a funny
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one for me. I don't understand how anyone can't see
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that CGI.
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Well, I don't know why anybody can't see this one
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c g O and I said.
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And the point that I was trying to make is
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that I said to Nick that this video makes the
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James Franco video.
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Almost look real. That's that's how awful this new AI.
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But people are getting loads of views on it and
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it is it is clearly AI generated.
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Yeah, has anyone put it through the filter through the AI.
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Like?
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Is it AI things?
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Yet?
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Not too sure? I've seen it. I was like, ah,
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this reminds me of Skinny Bobb fake.
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Well do you know, do you know one of the
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things I found like wow, because this is the even
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if stuff's fake at the minute, I think it's interesting
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because I think we might be getting played with Joey.
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I think there's which whichever way you look at it,
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there's a conspiracy to be had. It's that I don't
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believe some of the stuff that's getting put out is
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just It's not like in the two thousands where it's
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just normal people putting stuff out. It's it is clearly
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stuff that's been put out to give people, like like
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an opinion on fucking aliens and stuff like that. But
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let's let's have watched this video because, like I said,
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I haven't seen any of this.
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Yeah, check this out. It's only a couple of minutes long.
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Check this out. I don't think there's any sound to
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it that this reminds me of skinny Bob Souf. Look,
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let's head check this out.
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So we've got no, that's okay, that's pretty big. Got
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a guy that torch looking at stuff I can't tell.
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Is he supposed to be in a spaceship.
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Inside the space ship?
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Yeah, some alien writing. Alien writings even were good enough
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to draw their heads.
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Yeah, but this could be this could be the throwback
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to the Golden disc that we send out.
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The heads look very similar to the ones that were
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like the cave painting ones don't work, don't they mm hmm?
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They drew what they saw. I love that one.
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That looks very AI generated.
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It gets it gets better.
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Yeah, they've they've clearly gone for the to try and
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recreate the inside of the sports model.
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It looks very much like what the bubbles are to
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is the inside of the sports modelsam I mean to
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be fair like, I'm not. I think this is the
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thing though, isn't it. It's how much if we're actually
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going to get something that comes out real? I I
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am wary of calling everything AI because there's there's a
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good chance there at some point something will come out
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and then we're just gonna call it AI.
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It's happen. It's happening already.
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But I think I think there's a certain group of
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people in in in that that watches UF for videos
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and stuff.
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Here is the hands.
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Points to the hand, the why's it got black nail far.
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Marilyn Manson.
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Tell you what he's doing, A real neat job canting
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those as well, And that's it.
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That's it.
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That is a very skinny bob. But yeah, I think
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I didn't say I generated.
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There's some There's there's some other videos doing around as well.
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There's one where it supposedly it looks it's filmed from
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an airplane off a US Find the style.
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Right and that's like a silver blob.
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Got it right there?
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Wow, this is very skinny bob, isn't it?
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Three videos. This was taking. This was put out two
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months ago. Ly this one here, I'm not I don't understand.
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I don't understand how I haven't seen this.
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I think it's because that fake alien one did the
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rounds of other people who found the camera.
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Turn down. So we're on a helicopter.
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I mean this look true?
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Oh I do you know what though? I really do
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think this is the same the same person that the
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Skinny Bob stuff though, Yeah, I think because yeah, because
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the you know, the member the UFO parts of the
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of the Skinny Bob footage. That's very artistically a very
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similar style.
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That's see.
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Oh, I'm unsure about that.
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I don't really I don't.
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I don't know if it's AI. That's what I'm trying
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to say, I do. I don't think the flappy around things.
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Look at look AI. It's really good though, isn't it.
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It's I have to be really good, very realistic. I
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have to be. Let's go back a bit. We'll sure
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the alien in the SEC if it came out and
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if this came out in early two thousands, this would
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absolutely a lot of people. Well, let's be honest about it.
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Then then does does that give the original skinny Bob footage,
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like the the UFO parts of it. Does that give
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it more validity that that did come out at that time?
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That has always been my my point of that. And
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I said, I don't know why people can't see the
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skinny bobs like computer generated.
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It's like CGI.
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I what I believe about it there, because like the
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process and power you'd have needed back then to do
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that sort of work would have been pretty fucking incredible.
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You know, it's not it's not like it's not like
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now where blended Blender is like free and as long
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as you've got something like a like a reasonably decent
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graphics card in your computer, you could.
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I don't think you could have done that back then
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without some some serious gear in your PC. That to
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me doesn't look that to me doesn't look c gr
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AI generated.
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This part.
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You have you not seen the AI movie that those
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two brothers made.
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I just think there's sometimes with like things things like
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that that piece of rope flapping around. They generally they
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end up being there, but they end up being really
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good tells because you're you know, you're not just trying
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to fake like movement there, because if you look at
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the like most AI people as like videos of of
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people moving around if the wind blows them and stuff
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like that, it always kind of looks fake because like
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fluid dynamics is really really difficult to sort out that.
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Look that is the Skinny Bob footage very near you're
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from the crash.
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Yeah, oh that kind of looks fake, though I have
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to emit it's a good fake. It doesn't take me
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saying it.
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Does, right, I'm gonna I don't know, so I'm going
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to steal man it?
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What do we so?
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It's so like looking at sorry to put into myself there,
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but looking at this guy, this is clearly supposed to
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be Skinny Bob again, isn't it. It's exactly the same
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See that that looks like cartoon. But but then again,
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like the other bit that you said looks looks c G,
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I are we saying it looks because because it looks realistic.
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I just had a thought on this. What if my
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man used all the techniques? What have you used a
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little bit of c G? I in what if on
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his old computer doing it? And so what if you
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used a little bit of AI and mixed it in,
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so it's harder. But because I know it's made, it
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looks completely fake.
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It looks completely fake because it looks real.
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That's that's why I.
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Don't all it don't look real at all.
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But well, but the thing i'm the real reason I'm
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saying is if there was like that doesn't to me
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that looks too much.
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But like, for instance, the alien line on the floor for.
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Instance, Yeah, or that yeah, is that not exactly what
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it would look like if you recorded that?
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Yeah, No, yeah, I get what you're saying, But you
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still can't say, well, because it looks real, it's got
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to be real.
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No. But but aren't we just saying that about it
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being fake because it looks because.
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It looks it looks too good, it must be cgi.
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No, it doesn't look too good. It doesn't. Okay, look,
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I'm not going to get it because it doesn't look
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it don't look right. The whole thing don't look right.
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But it wouldn't the Again, I'm still manning this for
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entertainment purposes. But the isn't there a good argument to
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say that you are literally looking at something alien? So therefore,
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like the the the way your mind would look looking
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at this, Like one of my favorite stories is I
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don't know how how true true this is. But when
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America was discovered, the first landers hit the beach, and
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until they explained right and showed by by pointing the
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ships on the horizon to the natives on the beach,
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the natives couldn't see the ships because the these large
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like schooners that turned.
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Up or whatever type of ship it would have been.
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Sorry if I don't know my fucking colonial nautical history,
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but it was so alien to them they couldn't they
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couldn't see it, Joe Jo. I mean like it was
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just it was beyond comprehension that you could have had
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these like bait for them, floating cities on the water.
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So if it's where if if we're shown like.
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Genuine footage of an alien gray, the cognitive dissonance in
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our heads is going to be so mental. I think
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there's a there's a really good chance we just go,
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let's cartoon.
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See. This is why I love me. This is why
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I love me.
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You know this, This reminds me of the old times,
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you remember, Because I'm not buying that. I don't buy
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that I don't. I don't buy that for one instance,
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that yes, you are right to an extent that certain
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people will be that way, but that's how their mind
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is wired. And there'll be other people that will believe
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it without questioning it, yes, because that's how their mind
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is wired. Then there'll be others like myself who would say,
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hold on, I want the beats on this. I'm not
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going to say it's it's fake because I'm not going
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to call a video fake because it looks fake. I'm
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gonna call it fake because it's fake.
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This is what I'm saying. This is fake.
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Do you know what I find weird? Weird about this though?
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Like just that where you pouse that frame, Now, if
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you splice that into the skinny Bob footage, I don't
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think anybody would tell the difference.
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It's probably the same Ivan dude.
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So but that's the weird thing about this. Then if
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it is the same Ivan dude, First of all, why
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would he not post it on the Ivan account?
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Second because because it would add it adds more to
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the mystery. So I'll take the one off the table.
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But this is, this is the second.
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Part of it.
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It would be so difficult too because if we're saying,
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if we're saying this is AI generated and not however
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the original skinny Bob footage was made, it would be
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so difficult to make something that wasn't AI generated look
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exactly the same.
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I I.
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I've messed around with a lot of the AI video
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generation I I. I think it would be incredibly difficult
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to recreate the Skinny Bob footage using AI, using AI, But.
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It wouldn't be It wouldn't be that difficult to do
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it creating a map as a c G. I.
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No, No, that's so that that's fair. But I mean,
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but this that this is why I'm kind of real
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and it being AI generated out that's no.
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No, you were corrected correct there because I jumped to
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it saying it's a it could be.
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C G I.
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Yes, definitely. I think people forget that as well.
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People forget that c G c G I good c
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G I with money thrown behind it is like world's
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apart and much better than AI. Everyone everyone jumps on
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the AI.
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Bandwagon at the moment, and myself.
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It's interest in that.
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It's really interesting.
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It's a cool it's a cool fake. It's a cool fake.
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Yeah, and you got to think that for this time
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period it said nineteen sixty one on here. I'm pretty
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sure that time period they actually had colored video footage
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might be wrong because I think it's like nineteen fifties.
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It was like black and white. But read if.
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They would have done book color footage would have been
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a lower resolution than black and white back then. Yeah,
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if you want something documented for detail, you'd have done
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it in black and white.
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Sure. Sure. I mean the reason an explanation why this
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is fake that the fact that it's very grainy. There
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are certain spots, I mean, for instance, where I paused
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it here, the neck is black taut, so it's not
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really going to specific details. This is it in contrast
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with the lighting of the room. This is it. I
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think it's done in this stylistic way to sort of
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in a way. It's pretty good. But I think I'm
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green with hidden on this one. The fact that the
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guy is most probably the guy who created the Skinny
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Bob created this another account, just to you know, because
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if it was linked to skinny Bob, but people go immediately, oh,
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that's just fake.
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Maybe I think there's a lot of people out there
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that still think skinny Bob footage.
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Is real indeed.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely, others others. But I think that's a very small
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community of people. Yeah maybe once they start, once they
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start getting more and more deeper into this thing, they'll
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realize that, hey, it's a good fake.
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I'm always surprised the amount of people that pop up
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about the Skinny Bob footage when we talk about aliens.
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I'm always surprised about the amount of people that that
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are that's well in with it being real. I think
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it probably is fake. Don't don't get me wrong. But
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I'm like, if it turned out it was real, it
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wouldn't It wouldn't surprise.
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Me, do you know what I mean. I'd be like,
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all right, okay, interesting.
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See I recently have subscribed to a channel. I am
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going to get to your questions guy. As soon as
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I see him, I do tag him. But I recently
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stored sub subscribe to a channel. Now I know it's fake.
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Even YouTube knows it's fake because now he's put it
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as AI. It's got the start with the AI, right,
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but it's got a really cool backstory. It's basically this guy.
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He says he was on mining for bitcoins and he
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came across all these files, and he's only just managed
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to decipher these files. And he talks this computer jargon,
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and because I don't understand what he's saying, but basically
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saying he had to write a new script to decipher
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the files, Yadia, and he's just done it. And these
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files are wild. They're really cool. Could I show you one?
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Yeah? Please?
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But I mean it's completely fake. I know it's fake.
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I think a lot of people that are watching his
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channel they also know it's a lark. But it's really cool.
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I think sometimes we forget that in the like conspiracy
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theory and like truth for community, sometimes things can be
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done just because they're cool and fun, you know, like
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sometimes it's not a hoax. Sometimes somebody just made a
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fucking cool video.
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And sort of left it to the community to sort
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of make their own into it. This is it. It's
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because because it's it's a bit like for instance, like
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this footage right here, it's been put out. You don't
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know the real person behind it. It's just to see
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what sort of traction it can get. And I think
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this is probably the case right here, what we're seeing.
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You know, I have some it's it's pretty good. I
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have to make it's pretty good. But like you said, Lee,
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we're living in a day and age where people just
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immediately go, oh, it's Ai because we just jumped off
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the bag bag because that's where we are now in society.
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Yeah. I did that myself, so it smacked me too. Man.
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The first was AI. I had this channel.
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Here is but remember the video that we just watched,
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the videos, the videos that we just watched. Now I'm
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getting this one up and I want to show you
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guys that this is AUS. This is marked Yeah, we
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got it. Now is it up there?
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He goes, let me roll it down a bit and
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can you see here it's marked a Zahi right, Okay,
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now again, I just just remember last video, the footage
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over last the now check the check this quality out.
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Now.
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This is a story in February two thousand and eight
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mining for a small crypto called BTX. I know none
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of this, but he says he's found six hundred and
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thirteen unknown files on the drive and then he's managed
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to transfer them and this is one of them. This
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is pretty cool.
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This is actually the video that made me subscribe because
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I thought, you know what, this is some good stuff.
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Oh sorry, there we go. I'll play it from there. Yeah,
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there's sounds as well. I think I'm right. Here we go.
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Now just remember the picture quality. I guess I should
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have started it sooner.
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Sorry, I think we need to describe what we're seeing
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because this is going on the experience a podcast. No
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one can't see.
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It's okay, they understand what a live stream as well.
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Very, that's pretty good.
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Oh wait till you see the flying pyramids.
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So lots of this video is it's showing what looks
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like an ancient culture in Egypt.
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We don't know where this is. Like this this is
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LEVI taking.
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I think this looks more obviously AI generated though. Look
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at this man, right, that's that there? Like that perramid
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going back together. That kind of proves my point about
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the flappy stuff in the in the helicopter on the
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last last video. It doesn't do fluid dynamics well.
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Like that.
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Yeah, you can see that as being like it looks
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like a video game, video game for that's that's awesome.
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Though. I love stuff like this.
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Because it reminded did you guys have the pleasure of
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coming across the humunculous videos back in the YouTube heydays.
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So do we know what? Do we know what humunculous is? No,
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what's that right?
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Humunculus is like old old school alchemy where people would
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would try to impregnate chicken eggs with human human gear. Yes,
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so I found him like one night.
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I like it. I sure what I'm sure.
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It was like after an alienatic podcast as well, and
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I was hammered and I watched like the first two
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videos and I ended up staying up for another three
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hours and watched.
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Everything that he put out, and then it's really good.
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But it's one of my favorite things because No, I
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only found out a couple of years later what happened,
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because if you remember the last video he did, the
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video stopped when the Humunculus escaped out of the tank
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and then there was no more videos. And but the
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reason there was no more videos is completely unrelated the
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poor guy that was making the videos.
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It was obviously it was all it was fake.
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But looked it looked like the Tumunculus had killed him.
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And it was left like that because unfortunately, after he
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filmed the last video, the guy died, died of a
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heart attack, and he so he he left his own
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like Mythos with those videos.
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It was. It was incredible.
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Yeah, those videos. I mentioned that the couple of times.
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Remember when we were.
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Looking at the on the guy that had the black
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Michael the meteorite that had black goo coming out and
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had microwave, and I said, that reminds me of the
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Russian dude with the egg. Yeah, because it was doing
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all that. Yeah.
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Yeah, I enjoyed.
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The guy that thought that said he'd found the the
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long metal tube as well, that kind of looked like
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the Bungus Boger sphere on either side of it. Yeah,
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something like that. Yeah, James, but I couldn't see.
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I couldn't see why anybody couldn't see past this guy.
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Yeah, I know.
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And they were actually they.
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Were really pissed off when he came when he admitted
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that he was taking it.
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They were actually pissed off.
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But I know why though, because like it's it's one
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of the things I've always thought about, like conspiracy theory content,
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Like what we try, what we try and do in
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the Daily Conspiracy podcast is like we're not debunkers, so
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we'll always try and do stuff that we believe that
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there is a possibility of it.
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Being really like that.
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And I'm like I don't enjoy watching debunking channels purely
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for the fact that nobody wants to sit there for
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an hour and a half be until Father Christmas isn't real?
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Where's the like I somewhere down the line, and I
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blame uthology for this because as soon as the Loube
498
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Alessandro's and stuff got involved in upology, suddenly like like
499
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took on this this life where it stopped being a
500
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conspiracy theory and became news. You know, it became news
501
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.799
that was coming from like mainstream media sources.
502
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Somewhere down the line.
503
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.880
People forgot that in two thousand and thirteen, in twenty twelve,
504
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.359
we were we were listening to podcasts about flat Earth
505
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:28.200
and Bigfoot and all these other things, not because like
506
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:32.200
we were searching for searching for the truth. No, it
507
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:36.920
was fucking entertaining. I think somewhere down the line people
508
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.480
have forgotten that some of this some of this stuff
509
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.519
might not be real, some of it stuff might be real,
510
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.920
some of it is definitely real, but it should always
511
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.400
be fun to look into.
512
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.079
I think people really want the truth now, and I
513
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.519
think they really want to believe, and I think that
514
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.359
comes to the point where someone comes out as faking
515
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.400
stuff like since the Jameses Rod as one would say,
516
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.400
and he calls people gullibard for actually believing it. It's like,
517
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.960
you know, he could, he could have kept the grift going,
518
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.839
but I think he found out quite quickly how powerful
519
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.440
the people of the internet can actually be finding out
520
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:19.920
the person.
521
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.079
And plus he was being poured out, weren't he a
522
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.640
couple of his videos people were pulling up saying, hold
523
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:28.359
hold up.
524
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:34.839
It's amazing how people, especially once it gets on Reddit
525
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:39.160
and fore Chan, like it can be like as still
526
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:45.799
with a bush and a tree, there these crazy autistic bastards.
527
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.240
Like the next thing, you know, they've got this place
528
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:53.680
fucking nailed down on like on Google Maps. They then
529
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they know where his houses, they know where his job is,
530
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.240
they know there his mother's got one leg and his
531
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father's gay.
532
00:29:59.160 --> 00:29:59.480
You know this.
533
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.440
It's like the what they dig up on these people
534
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:03.279
is incredible.
535
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:09.119
M Yeah, true, Yeah. I think we're living in a
536
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.920
day and age where like like I said, it's everyone
537
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.960
so wants the truth and they can't really par fact
538
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.279
from fiction. This is it.
539
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.680
Well, I can't make my mind up with that. Whether
540
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it's because I said to you last night when you
541
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:28.279
were on the podcast, Nick. Part of me believes that
542
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.519
we are living in a literal time of revelation where
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00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.519
all truths will be told and there's nothing like it.
544
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You go back to, like the QAnon stuff like that
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that I.
546
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I juggle with.
547
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How much validity I give that type of thing. But
548
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.240
one of the things that does keep coming back to
549
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.240
me when it comes to that stuff is the quote
550
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like nothing can stop what's coming. And I feel that
551
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from the beginning pandemic time to now you kind of
552
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.160
feel that way. It kind of feels like, regardless of
553
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:10.960
what happens, something is happening, and sometimes it feels like
554
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.720
it's being orchestrated to happen, and other times it feels
555
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.599
like there is people in the background desperately trying to
556
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.799
make plans because they can't stop it happening.
557
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.960
Sure, yeah, it kind of like something is brewing to
558
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.319
a certain degree. And do you know what, Late I
559
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.000
would agree with you. So it feels like something's brewing.
560
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:33.200
I mean, if we sort of latched onto the fat
561
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I mean, for instance, like disclosure, as I mentioned to
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you yesterday on the podcast, you know we are, it
563
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:43.559
feels disappointing what in regards of the information coming out
564
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:47.880
to the public. And we differed on on dependence. Who says,
565
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.160
in a way these documents and these video footage is
566
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:56.000
ty is trying to at least ease the the normies,
567
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.480
so to speak, the non believers into Okay, there's conspiracy lube.
568
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.000
That's what have their conspiracy lube? Yeah, And I would say, well, actually,
569
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.640
you know this is old information. You know, documents has
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been declassified for many years. The video footage is not
571
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that great. But in one aspect of what you're saying
572
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.079
is like, yeah, I kind of understand. It's like trying
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to ease people in slowly. And you would say that's
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a slow drip disclosure. And like I said, I would
575
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.319
agree with you. It feels like something is brewing. Yeah.
576
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.680
See, I don't know whether it's a sigh up or
577
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:30.920
not what. So write good distraction.
578
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:30.880
From what.
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From what's really going down.
580
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.519
So I would say that this started in twenty seventeen
581
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.359
with the New York Times article, and I think it's
582
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.279
been a continual rise from there.
583
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.000
So whatever which New York Times article, the New.
584
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.960
York Times article that came out about the crash, retrieval.
585
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.319
Oh, we're still talking about the UFO stuff.
586
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.599
Yeah, yeah, no, But I'm just saying I think that
587
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that's where this, the whole this like disclosure movement started.
588
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.079
I still believe that.
589
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:10.160
We are in the middle of a ten year operation,
590
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whether it's psychological or whether it's I mean technically, it's
591
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.880
psychological either way, because it's preparing people psychologically for something.
592
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:24.119
I think next year. I think I think next year
593
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.720
we get and I'm not sure, like I say, I
594
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:29.640
don't know whether it's gonna be real or not. I
595
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:36.640
think we get pictures of bodies and planes and chips surcers.
596
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.920
Hard like we're gonna get people.
597
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.599
We might be here going like this bullshit, guys, but
598
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.039
there is gonna be official confirmation on that Department of
599
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.599
War website which has got a picture of an alien
600
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and a picture of a flying saucer.
601
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.119
The main problem with that if you look at the
602
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.559
person behind who's given us this document, it's it's it's
603
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.640
Christopher Mellon. And other thing I've got to mention Yesterdaily
604
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.839
in regards of Tim Brikshet, the representative, he was saying
605
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.760
that the government has been blocked to act to be
606
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.320
access to certain information, certain files by the intelligence agency,
607
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.880
and he's always said that, and that's always quite always mentioned.
608
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.960
So it goes to show that this disclosure narrative being
609
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:24.360
pushed is very controlled. But I think it's the sort
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of files is not going to be access to the
611
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.920
public unless things change over time. I think I would
612
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.440
argue that that is part of If I was thinking
613
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.199
that this was a psychological operation, I would say I'd
614
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.440
say it was part of the narrative so that when
615
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.239
Chris Mellen and Tim Burcher and Annapoloon and my future wife,
616
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.039
when they when they released the picture of the aliens
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00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.639
and the fine sources, they will they will do it
618
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.199
under the cover of we beat the deep state and
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we got you the information.
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00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.159
I think, I think, I think, I think, I think
621
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.719
you all are pludging on straws, and I think they're
622
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.159
doing it right in front of your face. I mean,
623
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.039
they've set up a uf U, a p Congruss, haven't they,
624
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.679
And who's the who's the head of it, who's there,
625
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.119
Who's going to get anything? When they are hiring a
626
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:14.039
straight up liar.
627
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.360
Oh no, no, I get where I get where you're
628
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.360
coming from. I'm kind of like in the middle. With
629
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.400
all this, All I'm all I'm saying is, how.
630
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.079
Can you be in the middle. The guy has a
631
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.480
check record through planning money.
632
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.719
Yeah for talking ship, Yeah for.
633
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.960
Not knowing what well he does know what a comment is?
634
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:37.000
A comment is he does know? He doesn't know? He
635
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.559
just lies split he lies.
636
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:40.840
But you might be right.
637
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.480
But what But in a way this doesn't matter because
638
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.039
what I'm saying is is that regardless of how true
639
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:52.719
it is or not, like the majority of people out
640
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.360
there are looking at this stuff thinking it's one hundred
641
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.920
percent above board, one hundred percent real, the majority of people.
642
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:04.480
But we're we're here now talking and we are the ones,
643
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:05.840
we are the voices.
644
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.559
And we have to call it out there and say, well,
645
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:10.119
the majority of the people are going to.
646
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.639
People of the people that please listen to me. Look
647
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.760
at Tabula's background, looking to what he said about a moon.
648
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:19.679
Look what he did when he was grabbing up all
649
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.239
the metal balls. Look what he was up to.
650
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.840
Oh No, one hundred or what All I'm trying to
651
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.639
say is is that there will be an end to
652
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.800
this movie, and it's going to be dramatic. It might
653
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.039
be bullshit, and it might be fake. But but that's
654
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.840
when when I'm saying that we're going to get a
655
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.320
picture of an alien and we're going to get a
656
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:42.320
picture of fine saucer, I'm not like discounting the fact
657
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.280
that this is a complete fucking sigh up. But what
658
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.960
I'm what I'm saying is that there is going to
659
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.360
be an end to this, and it's going to be and.
660
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.320
You're just happy to go along with the.
661
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.119
No, no, I'm not. I'm not happy to go in
662
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:56.719
a bad way.
663
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:58.760
I just mean, look, we might as well buckle up
664
00:36:58.840 --> 00:36:59.679
and see what.
665
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.719
Yeah, and well, because we're going to be part of
666
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.920
it whether we like it or not.
667
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.239
You see that kind of pissed me off with them
668
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.199
hiring heavy load.
669
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.639
Well, do you remember what I said to you?
670
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.280
I would have definitely said it an Alien Addict years
671
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.719
ago when all this started happening, and I said, one
672
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.039
day we will be the conspiracy theorists for not believing
673
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:29.599
in aliens. And I can see that. I like I
674
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:33.159
said that back like when I when I first started
675
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.440
coming on an Alien Addict as like as a guest
676
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.679
of Olley's, and I have never been more sure that
677
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.679
I am going to be able to go back through
678
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.320
alien addicts videos and pull back that the first time
679
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.440
I said that up and feel very fucking smug.
680
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:54.920
Yeah. Hm, I understand your point ly in regards of that,
681
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.280
but I think that people want evidence now, they want
682
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.239
proper evidence is just being blocked.
683
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.639
So that's and that's what they should have been yelling.
684
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.079
That's what they should be yelling at these Congress hearings
685
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.159
that they had all them times ago. They should have
686
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.320
been when when people were up there saying, oh, look,
687
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.000
I was told by where's your evidence?
688
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.360
Don't give me Jack and Norri. But I claim to
689
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.079
require require exstantial evidence. I see.
690
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.280
I'm on the team where I don't think it's being
691
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:29.760
blocked because I don't believe there's two.
692
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:32.800
I don't believe the people.
693
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.639
There aren't part of the deep state, if we're going
694
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.320
to start start calling a deep state. So when I said,
695
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.519
I say, I believe the idea of being blocked would
696
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.599
be part of the narrative. So this is either for me,
697
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.360
it's either real what's going on, and I question that
698
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.159
whether it's real or the whole thing is an orchestrated narrative,
699
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:56.400
even the even down to news Nation. Yeah, I mean
700
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.599
I remember saying back in the day. I think news
701
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:03.639
Nation was propped up right back years ago in order
702
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.039
to do this to push the UFO stuff, because that
703
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.800
that news channel was fucking nothing. And now all of
704
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:11.880
a sudden they've got the money to hire Chris Cuomo.
705
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:13.320
That's fucking weird.
706
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.400
All of a sudden.
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He was the US politician, wasn't he.
708
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.360
Mm hmm so he a big paycheck?
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00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:24.079
Yeah?
710
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.119
Oh no, yeah quick Cuomo would be fucking like megabooks
711
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:33.559
and he's like there you know him and Ross cool
712
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.400
thought are like their big that they're like they're big anchors,
713
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.679
aren't they mm hmmm huge? And even that like the
714
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.039
the idea that that's a channel that's that's supposedly trying
715
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.960
to be a legit news channel. And then you've got
716
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.119
Ross Coulsar's reality Check where he sits there and talks
717
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.920
about aliens for an hour a week.
718
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.400
What what a weird thing?
719
00:39:58.639 --> 00:39:58.719
Like?
720
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.119
What what what a weird chain of events that you've
721
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.000
this like essentially internet based because I don't know, I
722
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.039
don't know whether it's a network television thing or not,
723
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:11.639
but it's definitely getting this most of his views on
724
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.800
YouTube that this internet based news network would would go
725
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.320
down that Road. It's it's strange. I think they're doing
726
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.280
it for clicks, likes and views. They saw the traction
727
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.559
behind it, and this is with with news channels. They want,
728
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.159
especially when it comes to the Internet, they need the
729
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:29.760
views there, and.
730
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Thinking actually, we've got a niche on here. Let's get
731
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Ross cart Art. You know this, this guy who's been
732
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:40.679
pretty much disgracing Australia for reasons, and then suddenly thinking okay,
733
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.079
let's bring him out forward and like he's the the
734
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.320
su spokesperson for ufology. This is it. I find it's
735
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mostly to do with clicks, likes and views.
736
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Yeah.
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See.
738
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I remember an episode of Joe Rogan where somebody was
739
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talking about the UFO stuff and he turned around and
740
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said that he believed he'd had people on his podcast
741
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:08.880
that were spreading disinformation about UFOs. He didn't say Loue
742
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.559
Alessandro kind of think.
743
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.840
It was probably Alessandro who was talking about but.
744
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.719
He but then they started talking about this like UFOSS
745
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.400
being a sye up and he turned around and said
746
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.159
he said, I believe there's a news network that has
747
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.920
been government backed in order to push this, and he
748
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.440
has to be talking about news nation doesn't make sense
749
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.480
to be any other any other news network. So so
750
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:38.119
that that's I think there's US government money being funneled
751
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.800
into them to keep to keep doing this. That they've
752
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.920
got enough like news which is like normal stuff around
753
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.039
to make it look like a legit organization. But the
754
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:54.079
underlying mission for that place is to steer people towards UFOs.
755
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.559
And the reason they didn't do it they did it
756
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.760
with a small news channel like news Nation is because
757
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.360
nobody trusts Fox News or CNN or CNBC.
758
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:09.320
The mainstream and especially you got the Orange man calling every.
759
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.559
One of them, create create the alternative.
760
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:20.840
Yeah, well said, Well said yeah. But then this is
761
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.599
where I was touching on because you said, you said something.
762
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.960
I shout that it's a distraction man, and you said
763
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:32.519
from what Yeah. Yeah, See, this is why I'd rather
764
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.000
go on your podcast and talk about it because I.
765
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.760
Won't get in trouble on here. So too late.
766
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:47.480
But I think there, I think I think I didn't
767
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:53.639
realize how much oil venisla ahead. I think I think
768
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.679
my man's trying to build an empire of oil.
769
00:42:56.599 --> 00:43:00.000
Mm hmmm. See I have a problem with the idea
770
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.159
of the oil thing because I kind of don't believe
771
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.519
it's a scarce resource anymore. I think it's a self
772
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.159
replenishing fluid is abundant as water. Like remember the always
773
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.280
remember we were supposed to hit Pippeak oil back in
774
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.280
the nineties. We kept seeing that graph come up of
775
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.679
all the oil barrels, and then we hit the top
776
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.960
of the pyramid, and then the next stack of oil
777
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.960
barrels was one oil barrel less, and then one oil
778
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.719
barrel less. The US, I believe, and someone might be
779
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.880
able to correct me on this, but I believe the
780
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:38.920
US is a net exporter of oil, that like, it
781
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.079
pumps so much oil in its from its own country
782
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:48.360
that it exports it. As soon as I found stuff
783
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.639
like that, I thought, fuck, Like maybe that stuff about
784
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.199
the Iraq war and stuff being about going in to
785
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.360
find like archaeological stuff and.
786
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.480
Stargates, maybe that makes more sense.
787
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.639
And then that's what I always said.
788
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:06.599
See I always said that, because now I'm sure I
789
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.119
said this to you on alien addicts. But when I
790
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.239
used to work at the hotel Sorry, we used to
791
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:18.360
have a lot of soldiers come there, but they were
792
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:22.960
transitioning to Sivi Street, so they would stay there because
793
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.400
of their course and I would talk to them. I
794
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.159
would talk to some of them on a nighttime and
795
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.480
some of them told me some interesting stuff. So I
796
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.679
got talking to this one and he told me check
797
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:36.760
out check out. He gave me a date, and he
798
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.760
told me check out New York Times report and was
799
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.440
to do with the antickities because and because he was
800
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.559
telling me this is what he told me. He said,
801
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.079
they were taking these antiquities and then were just taking
802
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.039
them home and throwing them on the roadside. And this
803
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.519
New York Times report was about the Iraq antiquities just
804
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.719
being found on the roadside. So it's just a back
805
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:58.760
up what he was saying.
806
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.760
See, I was I was taught by somebody that was
807
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.760
over there servant as well, that the they went there
808
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.599
thinking they were going to fight the al Kaeder or
809
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.960
the Taliban, whatever whatever name we've given them at that time,
810
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.599
and he found himself garden museums while people went in
811
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.239
to look into the museums. It also makes me like
812
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:26.679
there's something about it that screams Nazi Germany to me.
813
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.000
And I don't mean the I don't I don't mean
814
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.960
like the ideology, but the way that when the yeah,
815
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.119
but when the Allies were going to win the war,
816
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.639
the Nazis, they but they started blowing up their own ships,
817
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.199
so the Allies didn't get it. And exactly the same
818
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.079
thing was going on in Iraq, wasn't it. You had
819
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.559
you had Iraqis going in and destroying their own history
820
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:54.320
before it was seized by the US. That that seemed
821
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.559
that seems to drive really well.
822
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.480
And you see this conversation here, you may everyone, I
823
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.719
was telling you that I was learning about an ancient
824
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:12.280
civilization called Mesopotonia. H yeah, that's Iraq now, yeah, yeah,
825
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.840
so you understand what they were destroying is when I'm
826
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.480
trying to learn that they had.
827
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:23.000
The beginning's the history basically beginning of human civilization, yeah.
828
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.239
Or a a civilization maybe the evidence of other civilizations,
829
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.440
which was just the real the real thing.
830
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.840
Well, there is evidence of other civilizations and also the
831
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:40.039
civilizations that the Mesopotanians did effect because the Mesopotanians were traders.
832
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.440
See, I often wonder because I know, like the ever
833
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:47.840
since the sort of tartaria thing popped up, which sometimes
834
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.400
I think might be a sigh up as well, because that, yeah,
835
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:52.920
because it's just exploded.
836
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:52.920
Didn't it?
837
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:54.039
What is it?
838
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:59.280
The idea Tartaria is like the the idea that there
839
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:05.920
was a Tartarian empire, which was a global, technologically advanced civilization.
840
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.079
The you know, it gets into the mud flood that
841
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.679
went and buried it. The it's tied into the World Fairs,
842
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.679
which I do think there's some weird ship with the
843
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.920
World Fairs. Like you look at these what looked like
844
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:26.239
Roman like empireistic like buildings that we're told were erected
845
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.760
in a year temporarily out of balsa wood and like
846
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.840
painted with limewash, and it's it's like the I think
847
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.239
the Chicago one is one of the craziest ones. Like
848
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.920
look at look up the picture. Yeah, look at pictures
849
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:47.320
of the Chicago Worlds Fair. It's it's insane. But I
850
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.440
often wonder whether if there is if if there's been
851
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.679
a cataclysm, but not like hundreds of thousands years years ago,
852
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.800
maybe only hundreds of years ago that we've rescued ourselves
853
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.079
out of and got back to this place. If you
854
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.840
were the power structure that was in charge of things, now,
855
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.960
that would be the secret you had to keep from people,
856
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.079
because imagine if people found out that all their hard
857
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.920
work they do all of the time and effort they
858
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.639
put into creating things and like building a future for
859
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.039
their children and thinking about their grandchildren. But it turns
860
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:31.360
out that there is a expiry date on civilization. No
861
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.719
matter what we do, there is a clock on the
862
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:38.480
earth that resets itself every few hundred years, and every
863
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.119
few hundred years we are thrown back, maybe not back
864
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.440
into the Stone Age, but back into the sort of
865
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.519
cowboy era, where well, now we're doing things with horses
866
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.280
and carts everywhere. Now we're going to try and work
867
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.320
out how to get electricity back online.
868
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.599
And then we.
869
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.280
Slowly spend the next few hundred years getting ourselves back
870
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.719
up to a situation like we're in now, of like
871
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.840
relative abundance, and then we get thrown right back to
872
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.679
the prospecting times again.
873
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.280
It's quite interesting. So we're kind of dealing with advanced
874
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.199
civilization that's sort of been buried from us. I mean,
875
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.599
like you're talking about the the Chicago Fair, I mean
876
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.239
the buildings they created. It's like it looks like it's
877
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:25.840
ancient buildings, isn't it. You know?
878
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:27.800
Have you have you ever seen any of this.
879
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:33.880
Hidden It's no that that's the first time I ever
880
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:34.639
heard of this.
881
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.679
One Nick, bring some pictures. Bring some pictures Chicago fair
882
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:39.679
up to show hidden.
883
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.000
Because it's Chicago.
884
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:46.320
It's it's incredible, mate, Like it's it's the wildest conspiracy
885
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.920
theory you've never heard of, I swear, and I really
886
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:51.760
think there's something too.
887
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.360
I don't believe these.
888
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.519
Like incredible structures were built.
889
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.400
In a year for.
890
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.760
Like a technology expo. It doesn't make sense.
891
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:07.199
Can you do?
892
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.880
Can you do polls in the on YouTube?
893
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.480
In the chat? What do you mean a pole? You know?
894
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.880
To get this to get the audience involved in something
895
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.119
I'd like to see. I'd like to see a poll
896
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.159
from the chat to see how many people in the
897
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.719
chat we're just asking one and two. Yeah, that's a
898
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.320
that's a good idea. Give us a like a thumbs
899
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.079
up if you believe that we have been a technologically
900
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.760
advanced civilization in recent history that's been reset like within
901
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.760
hundreds of years, and give me a thumbs down if
902
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.760
you think I'm talking bullshit.
903
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.119
I can't give your thumbs down, but I can't give
904
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:53.159
your thumbs up neither.
905
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.159
We only deal in ones and two. See a hidden.
906
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.079
I feel like that South Park episode turned into.
907
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:13.800
A monkey silly do said? You're talking bullshit. I mean
908
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.000
he said, I'm talking bullshit. He didn't even understand how
909
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.840
to answer the fucking pole properly. Give me your thumbs down.
910
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:29.719
Yeah, yeah, but these these buildings are like it looks
911
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:33.000
like ancient Rome or something like that. Yeah, it's incredible
912
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:33.639
the fact.
913
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:39.159
You can't see I didn't do anything spectacular or just
914
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:39.719
look great.
915
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:40.480
Yeah.
916
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.519
They were fully powered like there were there was electricity
917
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.719
all through them, like it's it's insane when you look
918
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:50.239
into it, you know.
919
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:51.480
You know what Tesla was there?
920
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:52.159
Yeah?
921
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.360
Yeah, and Edison.
922
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:55.400
Yeah, I think it was.
923
00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:00.920
It wasn't that where tes edis and did it didn't
924
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.480
didn't it wasn't it. Didn't they Tesla kill the elephant
925
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.039
or something like that.
926
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.800
No, that was was it the other way around?
927
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:08.639
Yeah?
928
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.039
Edison Edison did it on purpose to say that Tesla's
929
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:19.840
electricity was a c alternate current. His azarm design was
930
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.960
was going to kill everything, when it was when he
931
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.320
was actually doing it on purpose, Yeah, Edison, Edison killed
932
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.519
a lot of animals, man, just to discredit, just to
933
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:33.559
discredit Tesla, I.
934
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.679
Fucking sweart Edison killed the elephant. Elephant is such a
935
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:37.480
good band name.
936
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.079
I can't find a video, but I'm gonna bring up
937
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.280
some photographs right here of what it used to look like.
938
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.039
And to say that this was built out of boltsal
939
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.079
word in a year, just in a year, is ludicrous,
940
00:52:58.599 --> 00:52:59.800
absolutely ludicrous.
941
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:03.159
So look it's.
942
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:08.000
But yeah, it goes to show that back in the
943
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.599
nineteen twenties and thirties they had such high advance technology. Yeah,
944
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:21.440
that's clearly that was hidden. Absolutely. Okay, two seconds, guys,
945
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:28.679
let me just sort this out. Yeah, it's crazy.
946
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:31.199
Up.
947
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:33.400
See, I don't think a lot of them are agreeing
948
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:33.800
with this.
949
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:43.440
One because yeah, okay, cool.
950
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.800
I'll put that for another one unless we get we'll
951
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.280
finish this one and then we'll we'll jump to the
952
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.280
questions because there's two two so far. I think there's
953
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:54.639
been more.
954
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.280
But have you seen the one from Monkey have you?
955
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:04.599
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, just started that's but yeah, because I'd
956
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.440
just rather rather just say rather than DIAMONDO or another
957
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.480
one and then come back to the World Trade. You
958
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:11.719
know what was really cool as.
959
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.719
Well, not really cool, but the serial killer A. J. H.
960
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.239
Holds was operating around then as well.
961
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.800
Some of the guests that went to the World's Fair
962
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:26.440
fell into his little labyrinth of death. Name for her
963
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.400
abandon Labyrinth of Death.
964
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:35.679
This s e f N network Tartaria is a decentralized theory,
965
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.920
Like can you expand on that and let me let
966
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.119
me know what you mean? So this is Chicago and
967
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:46.320
this was, Like I said, this was what, I'm going
968
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.360
to google it to make sure I get the fucking
969
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:49.360
dates right?
970
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.519
What? What? What? What are we? What are we saying?
971
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:56.280
Looks insane? That looks like that doesn't even look real?
972
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.199
That does? That? Looks like a artist picture.
973
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:00.320
It's real.
974
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.920
It's a real focus. That's nice.
975
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.719
So this is eighteen ninety three.
976
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.440
Yeah, it looks a bit like Ernie, don't it.
977
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:10.440
Okay?
978
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.119
And that's an art decade style.
979
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.920
Yeah, yeah, but check us out. All of this was
980
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:24.000
made out of balsa wood, which they destroyed in two years.
981
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:29.599
So this was built in two years, okay supposedly, And
982
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.760
it's made out of balsa wood and.
983
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.840
Quite impossible if you've got different crews working.
984
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.960
On it in what what year? Nick?
985
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:43.039
What was? What was? Actually? What what are we talking about?
986
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.719
That was because the bridge obviously wouldn't be built out
987
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:46.480
of balsa wood.
988
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.559
No, no, just imagine, just imagine back in the days
989
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:58.519
when they filmed on filmed Moses. They had to build
990
00:55:58.519 --> 00:55:59.039
the sets.
991
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.920
No, but these the all these buildings had interiors like millions.
992
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.280
Millions of people went to these, millions of people traveled
993
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:11.039
to them, and there was World's Fairs all over America.
994
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.320
So you're saying the building was made out of bolson
995
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:19.639
would Yeah.
996
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.280
And and I can't remember how wrong the World's fair
997
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.760
run for run for but they were. I think it
998
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.519
was like a year they ran for twelve pints and
999
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.159
then they destroyed them. Everything was destroyed.
1000
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:34.360
We see.
1001
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.320
I I just would it could be a fire.
1002
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:39.920
I believe. I don't believe there would.
1003
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.360
I believe it was buildings from the from the old world,
1004
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.360
and this was the history reset they would be. They
1005
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.360
were being destroyed so we wouldn't know about them in
1006
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:49.880
the future.
1007
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:57.039
Mm hmm. Okay, well, these massive fancy buildings that I
1008
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.599
just I mean, I understand what Moody saying. Yes, we
1009
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:03.800
could have built these back in the day, but I
1010
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.440
don't think you could have done too in two years.
1011
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:07.920
Mm hmmm.
1012
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.320
Because that's the thing. If it takes let's say, let's
1013
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.320
so this is this is made out of like bullshit. Apparently,
1014
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.880
I don't believe if you started making that out of
1015
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.320
temporary materials, and it took two years to do by
1016
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.920
the time you got to the point. So so if
1017
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.199
it takes two years to build them and then a
1018
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:31.800
year to display them, I don't believe that temporary materials
1019
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.360
would have lasted that long, especially not giving the amount
1020
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:35.360
of water that was around.
1021
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:37.519
Mm hmm.
1022
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:46.880
Makes makes no sense to me. Imagine, like we're we're
1023
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.440
where I am, just down the road from me, where
1024
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.079
we're building a new hotel. It's going to take three
1025
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.800
years to build that hotel, that single building with modern
1026
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.960
building techniques. It's going to be a square concrete pillar
1027
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.239
with a few rooms inside of it.
1028
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.440
It's taken three years to build it. This is a
1029
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.400
better photographs. This is on YouTube. It's a combination here, Okay,
1030
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:17.360
so check this out. It's like ancient room, just wild.
1031
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:18.199
Mm hmm.
1032
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.760
It's vast as well when you see the people, it's vast.
1033
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.599
It's huge, it's massive, and this was created out of
1034
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:26.199
bolts of wood.
1035
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:27.039
Guys.
1036
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.079
Yeah, right, the greatest conspiracy.
1037
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.559
I want more. I want to see more pictures of
1038
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:36.599
the buildings. Man.
1039
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.480
Yeah, it's coming mate.
1040
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.280
This is a combination because somehow, somehow, like the sky
1041
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:42.519
and all that don't look right.
1042
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.360
Well, that's that's what they refer to them as vanilla
1043
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.960
sky They refer to them as vanilla skies.
1044
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:56.000
And like the pillar, now, is that bolts of wood?
1045
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.880
Supposed supposedly it's all made out of temporary.
1046
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.159
Material, even the fountains.
1047
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.440
Yeah, this is the thing. This is I just I
1048
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.840
simply don't believe it. I believe these were.
1049
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.800
This was the nineteen twenties. So there's nobody that's when
1050
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:15.239
was this nineteen forties.
1051
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.320
They're going to be in his thirties, they's.
1052
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.119
Going to be nobody alive that you could possibly ask
1053
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:27.719
to say, you know that would have been there. See,
1054
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:32.800
I understand I'm getting a bit of what you're saying. Yeah,
1055
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.440
because that that looks a bit too good.
1056
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.960
Yeah, I've never seen some of these photographs.
1057
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.760
This really looks a bit too good to be would
1058
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.519
also would I.
1059
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.760
Mean, check that out. That's a real photograph right there.
1060
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.280
But also you've got to think you're dealing with high
1061
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.639
advanced technology here. You know, there was no power plants nearby,
1062
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.599
there was no underground structures in terms of well this
1063
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.559
is according to the conspiracy here. You know the fact
1064
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.400
that it was using some sort of free energy to
1065
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.039
actually power the waterfalls, the lighting, and this is one
1066
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.280
of the reasons why they actually destroyed it because it
1067
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.760
was so high at advance technology is like, oh, we
1068
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.760
don't want to get our for instance, the enemies to
1069
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.880
I mean, look at that for Christ's sake or destroyed
1070
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.000
two years.
1071
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.400
Do you know what remind me? Joe reminds me of
1072
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.360
in a really kind of depressing way. It kind of
1073
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:30.719
reminds me oft if you ever been to Epcot and
1074
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.440
they've got they've got the big Lake. They've got the
1075
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.039
big Lake in the middle of Epcot and you go
1076
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.199
around the world, so it's like that every few meters,
1077
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.360
it's like a different country with different drinks and different
1078
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:40.360
foods that you walk around.
1079
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:41.840
It's good fun.
1080
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.599
But when when I found out about this, it almost
1081
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.639
is like kind of a mockery of it.
1082
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.320
Yeah, else es.
1083
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:55.639
Beautiful place.
1084
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:01.360
Mm hmm, what a spectacular seed back in the nineteen thirties.
1085
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.599
Yeah exactly. It makes you think why do they destroy it?
1086
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:06.840
I was just going to skip ahead here, but yeah,
1087
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.400
I would agree with you, Lee. This is one of
1088
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.840
the most grandest conspiracies and it was packed were full
1089
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.360
of people. Yeah, full of people, and that's the thing.
1090
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:17.440
And you can ask one of them there.
1091
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.760
But the thing is there as well, like when you
1092
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:24.480
think back then, like the level of transport we had
1093
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.760
and stuff like that, how do you even ship that
1094
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:28.960
many people in and out?
1095
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:29.239
Do you know?
1096
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.039
I mean like if you, if you, if you're holding
1097
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:35.159
an event like this, how do you how do you
1098
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.039
manage those that volume of people?
1099
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:46.559
Well? JH. Mills found no problem in that. Aj Hulbes sorry, man,
1100
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:51.159
I couldn't resist. You had the door open for me.
1101
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.920
Well yeah, check aj huns If you haven't heard of him,
1102
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.239
check him out, man, he was knocking around.
1103
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.119
If in one of them pitches, you might see the hotel.
1104
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:08.480
Yeah, with all the trap doors and everything. But there
1105
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.920
we go. That is the Chicago Fair. Oh hold on,
1106
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:15.280
it's from eighteen ninety three. I thought it was the
1107
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:21.559
eighteen hundreds. Yeah, So there we go, beautiful place destroyed.
1108
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.119
God knows why? Well him, you know why? Advanced technology?
1109
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:27.480
So you see that, as.
1110
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.960
S s e FN Network said, their point is they
1111
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:37.760
were they weren't built, but discovered as remnants of tartaria.
1112
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.400
You see, I'm not really one for this whole like.
1113
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.480
Analyzing language and stuff like that.
1114
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.360
Maybe maybe because I'm not smart enough, maybe because I
1115
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.800
think I think people reach a lot, but I do.
1116
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.639
I do think it's interesting that we're we refer to
1117
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:03.639
like cities being founded found, not construct a bit like the.
1118
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:09.199
Yeah, it's like Egypt like apparently that was just adopted
1119
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.880
by previous ancestors that were there and they just made
1120
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.679
it their own basically, So it's basically what we're going through.
1121
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.280
The Graham Hank Graham Hancock theory that the fact that
1122
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.159
ancient Egypt is a lot older than what we think
1123
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:22.519
it is.
1124
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:26.159
I would, and I'm sure he wouldn't talk about it
1125
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:29.480
like publicly because of the you know, he gets enough
1126
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.800
enough problems with his theories as it is. I would
1127
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.039
love to know what Graham Hancock thinks about the Tartaria thing.
1128
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.639
Mm hmmm, because we're going back quite far back it's
1129
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.960
unknown territory. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
1130
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.880
Because he must have an opinion on it, even if
1131
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:51.960
he hasn't made it public.
1132
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.440
He must have an opinion. Oh. I was supposed to
1133
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.719
see Graham before before he went into a surgery, so
1134
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.039
I think I'm scheduled to pop around his area at
1135
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.519
some point. I knock on the door, be like, come on,
1136
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:10.639
come on to the show and get your thoughts on
1137
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.480
what's going on. You know, incredible. I'd love to speak
1138
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:19.239
to the man science evidence for him. Graham would call poppycock.
1139
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:21.679
H not to show that, mate, you know, it's very
1140
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.960
open minded. I think.
1141
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.280
I think the idea that any anybody like Graham Hancock
1142
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:31.320
would call anything instant bullshit I think is I think
1143
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:31.960
it's a stretch.
1144
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:34.519
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
1145
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.400
Yeah.
1146
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.000
So what are the other conspiracies we're dealing with here?
1147
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.320
As we are talking about a vulture of wells?
1148
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:45.559
A couple a couple of questions we could jump to
1149
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:50.000
Y So we got one from black Dot.
1150
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.480
Is he still here? I'm coming to you, man, I'm
1151
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:53.679
coming to you. Don't worry.
1152
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:59.679
Do you think there are several species of space aliens
1153
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:05.679
from other space, from outer space visiting our tall white
1154
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.639
small grays, reptilians, et cetera.
1155
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.079
Something has to be flying those.
1156
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:18.800
Sources, Johnny to go first before you, Before you guys,
1157
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.079
definitely disagree with what I'm going to say. You're going
1158
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.480
to talk about demons, I am, I don't like I
1159
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:27.920
don't know whether it's biblical demons or our I don't
1160
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:28.519
know whether that.
1161
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:29.960
I don't know whether I believe in that.
1162
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:36.400
I believe that we have had a rich and historied
1163
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:44.360
understanding of the paranormal, and I think UFOs and aliens
1164
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:50.960
are modern explanations for a force.
1165
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.639
That has interacted with us for a long time.
1166
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.480
I think I think there is far more, far more
1167
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:02.800
chance of that being a more mystical type of interaction
1168
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.119
with something than it is a technological species from millions
1169
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:08.760
of miles away.
1170
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.480
Yeah, there you go first, you want to go.
1171
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.079
Well, we will talk about this yesterday. I think we're
1172
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:22.960
going back and forth. The fact that for me really
1173
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.239
look into the past and really switching with the books
1174
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.760
and magazines behind me and try to grasp the say
1175
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.880
pop culture or history of euthology, and what I was
1176
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.599
saying with you review Lee yesterday that the fact that
1177
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.599
if you look at Aztech Roswell, we are dealing with
1178
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.000
a crashed saucer. And why would for instance, it be
1179
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.199
going with the if aliens are demons, why would they
1180
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:52.360
need a flying craft to come here when we are
1181
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.559
dealing with inter dimensionalbance when apparently they're already here. This
1182
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.800
is it, and I think this is where it parallels
1183
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:04.559
between the paranormal and the actratrestral explanation, and I think
1184
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.840
that the conversation has changed, especially in the past five years,
1185
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:14.360
in regards of the phenomena itself. But but the thing is,
1186
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:15.840
you know, I don't understand why there would be a
1187
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:19.599
demon flying in a flying saucer. This is it. This
1188
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:21.960
is one thing, and you've got to think about the adductions.
1189
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.559
You've got to think about like previous cases for our history,
1190
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:26.280
which I think is quite important to really look at.
1191
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.599
So it's see, I think I think abductions fit far
1192
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.719
better into like a demonic possession, if not torment, than
1193
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:41.920
a well why they why the fucking wisdoms away? If
1194
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.960
they're like, come in thousands of miles just to come
1195
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:50.840
and fucking right steal some fucking gears seems stretch.
1196
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.519
Yeah, this is it. I think I think there's more
1197
01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:58.440
of a conversation to be held with this, with this
1198
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.559
topic because no one's got the answers.
1199
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.119
This is absolutely not.
1200
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:04.119
For it.
1201
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:08.519
I think I think it's a little from all the above.
1202
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:14.679
But as to call aliens demons, I'm from my two
1203
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.960
cents in because again this is going back to me
1204
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:23.560
trying to figure out some shit about Mesopotamia. Now, the
1205
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.399
one thing that I did say to Nick was I
1206
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:29.800
was looking into religion, their religion and how it influenced
1207
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:34.960
our religion, so in turn, it would influence our beliefs
1208
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:43.399
on demons. Now, Mesopotamia, their stories, their what do you
1209
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:47.520
call it mythology because I have to call it this now,
1210
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.800
is that three beings came from an other space and
1211
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.159
these are who they worship. One of them I can't
1212
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.479
remember the other two's name, but one of them was Inky.
1213
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:01.520
Yeah.
1214
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.600
So when you look on how things are being practice,
1215
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.039
I think that religion may have stemmed. And I'm going
1216
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:13.920
to offend some people, but religion may have stemmed from
1217
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.680
these Mesopotamian teachings. Now I've just started, and I'm going
1218
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.800
to delve deeper, but I've just started, and if you
1219
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:22.640
look at it, it makes a lot of sense because
1220
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:27.039
they focus wholly like the Trinity. Now, don't forget the
1221
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:32.600
Mesopotamians say that three of these beings came from space.
1222
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.760
The story of their story of creation is very similar
1223
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:46.760
to the Adaem and Eves story. So I kind of
1224
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.039
think that it's the other way around that what we
1225
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:55.199
have been calling demons may have been aliens, But it
1226
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:03.239
doesn't say that they ain't demons in this world.
1227
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:02.960
Like what Nick's saying. Nick, Nick, hit the nail on
1228
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:03.319
the head.
1229
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:05.840
The demons, where the fun Do they need a spaceship,
1230
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:10.039
where they need a saucer? It makes no sense when
1231
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:12.680
they can possess a body, when they can do anything.
1232
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:20.960
I know, I see no reason why an interdimensional like malevolent.
1233
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:23.279
Creature wouldn't also use technology.
1234
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:26.039
Well to what game? Why?
1235
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.880
As I said to like Nick, yes yesterday, I got
1236
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.079
to say exactly the same thing.
1237
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.079
Do you believe in Ouiji boards?
1238
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.720
Do you believes can speak spirits?
1239
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.920
It's it's I believe, I believe it can, but I
1240
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.960
also believe it can also talk to live in That's okay.
1241
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.159
But so by saying that you believe that a Wigi
1242
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:53.720
board can speak to spirits, you're saying you believe that
1243
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.239
we can contact spirits with technology.
1244
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:04.199
Because no, no, no, no, Because the Wigi board is
1245
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.039
the focus. It's like if you tell somebody to focus
1246
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.680
your thoughts and your energy on a dot, you will
1247
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:14.159
have the same effect. So the Ouiji board ain't a
1248
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:17.479
piece of technology, it's kind of a tool. The thing
1249
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.199
that's being used is you, your focus.
1250
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.920
I see. I still think that the Wigi board itself
1251
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:29.319
is part of it, that it's part of it is
1252
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:30.479
all right.
1253
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.760
People people like Crawley didn't need a wigi board.
1254
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.640
No, see, we're going to get into Crawley. But yeah, no,
1255
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:42.359
you're right, Yeah, absolutely, I'm not saying that there isn't
1256
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.359
other ways using like chance, sex, magic, that type of
1257
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.640
thing to get in touch with these things.
1258
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:51.640
But all that is is focusing your energy. And the
1259
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.920
Wigi board allows you to do that. Again, like I said,
1260
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.000
if you had that thought, like if you thought, I
1261
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.600
don't know, if you thought you could you could contact
1262
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.119
I'll be straight. If you thought if I said, look,
1263
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.520
you see this head here, focus and I need you
1264
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.840
to focus on it and will and I gave you
1265
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.079
a name, and I just said, keep saying this name,
1266
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:15.760
will it.
1267
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.159
It will have the same effect as Luigi board. You
1268
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:22.439
will say, oh, I feel the presence. Can you do something?
1269
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.159
It's the it's literally the focus of energy of your thoughts,
1270
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:27.880
your energy.
1271
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.800
See s c FN network also has a really good
1272
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:35.399
point here because he said, well, ritual is is a
1273
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.359
type of technology where.
1274
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.920
Second to last comment.
1275
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.039
I think that this is that.
1276
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:49.319
One Nope, one not one above it.
1277
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:57.600
Oh, I see it now, Sorry I would I don't know.
1278
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.319
I don't know. I can't to your technology because I
1279
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:08.520
think ritual is kind of it's ancient, remember I think,
1280
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:12.560
I mean it's still it's still ancient, isn't it.
1281
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:13.920
The wheels?
1282
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:17.880
The wheel is ancient, but it's still technology. Creating fire
1283
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:19.560
as a technology.
1284
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.239
I suppose if you put it that way, but I
1285
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.199
don't see it that way.
1286
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.439
But this is what all I was saying is, I
1287
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:32.439
don't see any reason why I'm malevolent, demonic force wouldn't
1288
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.800
use technology as well we used we use technology.
1289
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:36.920
I don't. I don't see why I wouldn't. I mean
1290
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:38.119
even when when we look.
1291
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.600
At stuff like certain fuck knows what's going on there,
1292
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:44.199
and the idea of building portals where I think.
1293
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:48.640
I get that one. I get that one. But I
1294
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.039
also thought, well, they're doing that in a way.
1295
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:58.319
That they're doing If this is what they're doing, I
1296
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.000
gotta I gotta bring that back. If this is what
1297
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.199
they're doing, trying to tear up in the fabric to
1298
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.880
go into other dimensions, that is not what Crawley did
1299
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.880
again to using the magic. I think they were just
1300
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.000
trying to do it without using the magic trying to
1301
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:15.119
find the back door in.
1302
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:21.199
Or it's the more evolved version of what Crowley was doing.
1303
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:22.680
It's the more evil.
1304
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.000
No, just evolved, it's just evolved.
1305
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:32.880
Possibly, Yeah, yeah, because you imagine, imagine. I guess, I
1306
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.159
guess if they figured, look, if we can do this
1307
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.479
without killing all the you know, sorry, I shouldn't have
1308
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.439
said that, but without all the sacrifices.
1309
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.560
Maybe maybe maybe they still do the sacrifices.
1310
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.560
Maybe remember remember that, Remember that mock ceremony they had yesterday.
1311
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:54.760
Yeah, crazy mm hmm, even though even even the reason
1312
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:57.479
for it all, but they were just having a laugh. Okay,
1313
01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:58.279
thanks for that.
1314
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:00.840
It's good. It's good to know that people that.
1315
01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:04.760
People that have the power to like create a mini
1316
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.039
black hole that could suck the entire planet in it.
1317
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.079
It's good to it's good to another sense of humor.
1318
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:17.199
They did say that, didn't They didn't destroy the world.
1319
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:22.439
That's what Hawgan's warned them about. You shouldn't mess with
1320
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.720
that stuff. You remember, you remember when we remember on
1321
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.199
was it the last show we did? Not that the
1322
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.760
last show the show before when we looked at the
1323
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:34.800
King Black the Red Mercury and like, oh yeah, and
1324
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.479
he basically and then basically he said, just because you
1325
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:39.079
can do it doesn't.
1326
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:39.439
Mean you should.
1327
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.840
You should, yes, And I think.
1328
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.000
That's that's what Hawkins was saying as well.
1329
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.039
What what's the red mercury thing? Because I've heard this before.
1330
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.800
It's a load of ballots, really, but we do think
1331
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.800
it's mercury. We do think it's just literally mercury, because
1332
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:01.439
there's a satellite where they burnt the mercury and it
1333
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.560
just it's an endless power source. But the thing is
1334
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:08.920
it gives us that much radiation that you can't use it.
1335
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.399
You can't use it, right. So so basically where the
1336
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.760
idea of red mercury came prom Lee is that we
1337
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:18.039
were talking about the Nazi bell, but you can actually
1338
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.760
trace that back to the Mamada. This was like this
1339
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:29.079
pyramid shaped craft from India. So so the legend behind
1340
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:32.399
that that there was this kind of who was it
1341
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:36.560
was it a prince king some game with some some
1342
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.439
kings who was talking about this craft in India basically
1343
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:46.239
in India that but it used mercury to power this craft.
1344
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:52.479
Mercury so so so he was talking about so basically
1345
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:55.000
the quote was basically just because you can use it,
1346
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:59.600
It doesn't mean that you should. But then NASA created
1347
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.840
a sat light in the sixties that used mercury, but
1348
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.359
it gave off such a massive amounts of radiation and
1349
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.600
actually banned it because it would basically pollute the earth.
1350
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:11.840
And that links into the Nazi bell about the fact
1351
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:15.079
that this device was using some sort of red mercury
1352
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:20.800
or mercury based substance to actually power this machine. And
1353
01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:22.840
that's where it kind of came from.
1354
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:29.119
Really, you were going back way back into Indian history.
1355
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.600
But this guy, this this king, what's so fascinating. This
1356
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:34.760
is why we've got to look more into this dude.
1357
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.319
What's so fascinating. And he'd done loads of designs.
1358
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:43.880
He was like the Leonardo da Vinci of India, and
1359
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.720
it claimed that he had stuff that would fly in
1360
01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:48.000
the here.
1361
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:53.680
Yeah, this is how far back we're going. We're going back, well,
1362
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:56.880
two thousand years, I think a long time.
1363
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:01.319
Easy, easy, few thousand years easy, Yeah.
1364
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.600
Two thousand years. Yeah, we're actually going to do an
1365
01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:04.920
episode on it, so well, yeah, stay tuned for that one.
1366
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:08.439
But yeah, I mean, if you're going back to what
1367
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:14.359
Lamb hid him words Lamb a interdimensional being.
1368
01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:19.359
Or demon interdimensional being. That's what Alistair Crawley. That's what
1369
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:23.399
Alistair Crawley called him. I'm quitting well, Alex. He never
1370
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.920
said he was a demon, never said he was an alien.
1371
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:32.079
He called him an interdimensional being. He actually this character
1372
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.520
appeared to him, I believe in Egypt was the first time,
1373
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:37.800
and that's when he gave him the law.
1374
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:45.239
I think, see, I think I need to preface myself
1375
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.720
slightly more when I say the when I say the
1376
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:50.960
word demon, because in the same way as I think
1377
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:56.800
UFOs and aliens are our way of describing this like
1378
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:01.079
these encounters now in a modern lens, I think like
1379
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.920
angels and demons was the way we were doing it
1380
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.960
in like a historic lands as well. I just think
1381
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.640
there's more, there's more of a history of this stuff
1382
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:18.680
being paranormal than technological. I think that's the better way
1383
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:23.439
of me saying it. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
1384
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.880
No, I'm sorry. I'm just laughing that on Moody.
1385
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:36.079
Before Herod Junkie, shit, man, this was this is all
1386
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.399
this stuff was before then.
1387
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.560
But like London was such a wild place, man, no
1388
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.680
conspiracy they you know they had. Did you notice league
1389
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.039
back in the olden times when Crawley was around. Yeah,
1390
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.560
but even before that they had opium dens. There was
1391
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:59.279
a famous writer and I don't read many books, but
1392
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.439
I read his because it was very interesting. It was
1393
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.800
just about him and his trip in London, and he was.
1394
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.319
Talking about he would go into a house and I
1395
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:12.439
think I think this was like nineteen thirties nineteen forties London,
1396
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.079
and he'd go into a house and the living room
1397
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:21.680
is just bare cushions with pipes and they'd stay there.
1398
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.119
For hours just smoking the opium. Crazy.
1399
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.039
But he was saying, like, so and so was there,
1400
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.439
and these are people you know, or you would earn off.
1401
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:36.000
And he's thinking, whoa, these guys were smoking opium. Yeah,
1402
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.279
but it was it was it was all the rage
1403
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:44.640
back then. Well anyway, I don't know, I don't know.
1404
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:50.199
It makes you wonder, doesn't it, Like the sometimes when
1405
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:52.720
it comes to drugs, it makes you won't know why
1406
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:56.920
certain things were actually banned and alcohol was left. Like
1407
01:20:57.039 --> 01:21:00.640
I've I've often had an air because I I'm not
1408
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:01.800
I used to be. I used to be a big
1409
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:05.600
drinking not a big drinker anymore. I wouldn't call myself teetotal,
1410
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.720
but if I drink twice a month, it would be
1411
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:14.159
a lot like you like me, maybe once every two months,
1412
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:19.760
and maybe maybe I'll drink and it's it's dawned on
1413
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:25.159
me since I stopped drinking that alcohol is a control
1414
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:28.560
mechanism that has been left in society to steal the.
1415
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.279
To steal the effective years off young men.
1416
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:35.840
When you when you think back, when you think back
1417
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:38.399
to your past and you're like teens and twenties, when
1418
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.159
you when when you when you had like a long
1419
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:46.039
future ahead of you and a the energy to actually
1420
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.640
do some ship, what were you doing? You get fucked up,
1421
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:50.039
won't you?
1422
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:53.279
Yeah? Yeah, it seems to be the culture at the time,
1423
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:54.920
isn't it. You know, it's been like it's a cool
1424
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:57.159
thing to do to go out and get wasted, which
1425
01:21:57.159 --> 01:21:58.760
is I can remember back in the day when when
1426
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.119
I was a teenager. Yeah, I mean you forget like,
1427
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.239
for instance, like hemp. I know, hemp is like the
1428
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:07.039
male version of cannabis, but you know, Henry Ford made
1429
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:09.920
a car out of hemp and it was stronger than
1430
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:13.760
flipping steel. He actually powered the thing by using hemp.
1431
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.880
And do you think why is this band?
1432
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:23.199
It wasn't hemp basically taken down by the American paper industry, because.
1433
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.319
That's the that's that's the theory.
1434
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:28.640
Yeah, all this money had been put into the paper companies.
1435
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.279
We can't they have been invested in mills, didn't they.
1436
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.960
They bought a shipload of new meals and overordered them,
1437
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.079
then all of a sudden they yeah, So that is
1438
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:43.319
the conspiracy. But you know, like, you know, like I
1439
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.880
want to big up I want to big up the
1440
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:48.319
hemp plant because if you look into the American history
1441
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:56.079
in the American Civil War without Hemp, you wouldn't wonder
1442
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.600
mm hmm, because you know, you know, all the tents
1443
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.640
that was made out of him, all those bags that
1444
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.840
would stop the bullets, you know what they were made
1445
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:14.840
out of, Good old Hemp, good old help. But anyways,
1446
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.800
that's not a conspiracy, and we're here for conspiracies. So
1447
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:28.600
we have one more question then, so and this was
1448
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:35.000
for you, Lee, so yours, which what about the Jewish
1449
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:40.079
extremists trying to destroy the world to help bring their messiah?
1450
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:45.479
Conspiracy or not. I'm shouting out, I'm going to shout
1451
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:46.680
out not conspiracy.
1452
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:49.439
Well, I'm going to say what what what can you
1453
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:55.359
say without destroying the YouTube channel? Right I'm I'm going
1454
01:23:55.439 --> 01:24:00.119
to say the same thing that I I guess, the
1455
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.920
same thing I say on the podcast about it, which
1456
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:10.720
and genuine, genuine feels about it. I I failed to
1457
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:15.199
understand how a country the size of Israel can have
1458
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:23.119
this amount of global control over supposed global control over
1459
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:24.680
so many nations.
1460
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:32.359
Again with the files. But it's not it's not just that,
1461
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:34.960
you know, it's not just that. It's not just that.
1462
01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:40.640
There are other things in play here, So it's not
1463
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:45.680
just that, but the E files, I think that's some
1464
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:47.199
certain people buy the balls.
1465
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:50.920
See I don't. I don't think the Epstein and the
1466
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.680
and the island was a honey trap. I think that's
1467
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.640
the cover because that's what that's what that that is like.
1468
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.600
What what I've noticed is we we had YouTuber on
1469
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.159
our podcast a while ago. You might have seen him
1470
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.800
around a little bit ago, a black dude called coach Colin.
1471
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:09.319
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, good good guy.
1472
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:15.760
And he he said something that I'm sure I thought
1473
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.319
stuff like this before, but he said it's such a
1474
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.199
concise way. It's stuck in my head that he said,
1475
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.000
we we just we just look at the we look
1476
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.479
for the official story all the time. And then fail
1477
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.479
to notice that there's an official story and an official
1478
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:39.279
conspiracy theory. So if Israel are so powerful and they
1479
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.560
had they had all this dirt on people, yet the
1480
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:48.479
idea of Jeffrey Epstein being a massad agent is the
1481
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:55.000
official conspiracy theory they want. There is an element of
1482
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:57.880
the of the sye OP that wants you to believe
1483
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.039
that that's why.
1484
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.960
It's it's it's it's well, it's all there in the finals.
1485
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:07.600
There's a lot of a lot of mention of Israel.
1486
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:10.640
Well, I mean the guy was Jewish. Yeah, and it's like,
1487
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:12.000
don't get me wrong, but there was. But there was
1488
01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:13.960
a lot of mention of London. There was a lot
1489
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:17.600
of mention of the United States and different conditions. Yeah,
1490
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.960
like there's there's no doubt that Israel are one like
1491
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:27.079
a global player. But see, I've when I was reading
1492
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.640
through the documents we got and one of the things
1493
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:33.199
that really struck me with the Epstein files, and this
1494
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:34.960
is why I don't believe it was a honey trap.
1495
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:41.119
I believe the idea of it being a a extortion
1496
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:45.479
operation is a cover story for what it actually was.
1497
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:48.399
Oh yeah, I get what you're saying. Now, I get
1498
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.560
what you're saying, is this all this all leads back
1499
01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:56.680
now to opening up things for for certain entities.
1500
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.600
Yes, you said, yeah, and that's all there and you
1501
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.119
know this this is I said this to Nick when
1502
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:05.439
when then files came out.
1503
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:07.600
I said, you know what, there's a lot of people
1504
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:10.520
right now that are patting themselves on the back saying, you.
1505
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:11.479
Know what, we were right.
1506
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.279
Nobody believed us when we were saying this is what
1507
01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:18.960
they're doing, the farming, the farming infants, that I can
1508
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.720
get away with that. But you know, this was talked about.
1509
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:28.439
This was talked about back in the nineties. Yeah, when
1510
01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:32.239
when they were talking about certain people are having children
1511
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:35.800
and these doctors and they're proper doctors, but they ain't
1512
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:37.079
being recorded.
1513
01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:41.560
The like the Satanic panic. Like the Satanic panic was
1514
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:43.600
one hundred percent real, real in my eyes, and that
1515
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:47.600
was it was. That was so close to discovering what
1516
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:49.319
was going on back then, and.
1517
01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.720
You know, you know came in and shut it down.
1518
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.079
You notice the Fens came in and shut it down.
1519
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:55.840
Yeah.
1520
01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.079
For anyone out there that listens to this show that
1521
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:02.199
still thinks that the episode Epstein operation was an extortion operation,
1522
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:06.319
I want you to go no, no, I want them
1523
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.479
to go and read the emails back and forwards from people,
1524
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.600
even the boring emails, like the boring emails of people.
1525
01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:17.840
Find me an email where somebody that's talking to Jeffrey
1526
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.760
Epstein doesn't appear.
1527
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:21.319
To fucking love that dude.
1528
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:26.359
M M if if if he was extorting people, I
1529
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:29.399
was like, oh, you fucking got me, and now I've
1530
01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:32.239
got to do stuff here, there would be far more
1531
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:34.960
aggressive back and forth with people.
1532
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.760
But I do think, no, no, I do think he
1533
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:44.560
was doing that. I think I look, I I do know,
1534
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:49.520
I'm with you, But I do think that somebody sees
1535
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.800
those those the footage.
1536
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:56.520
His place, his placing on New York was wired. He
1537
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.199
had every room wired. It's placing on the island was right,
1538
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:05.439
so Zoro Ranch. I'm not too familiar with that. I
1539
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:10.520
just know they want to dig the place up right
1540
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:16.720
where the tapes. Who got them, who got them, and
1541
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:21.600
whoever's got them has got a certain beverage over people,
1542
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:25.560
because look, we talk about when they're showing the pictures
1543
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:30.359
of Mandelssohn, but ain't nobody noticed my man's walking around
1544
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.760
in a gown and there's a there's there's there's a
1545
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:38.399
girl there. Yeah, but there those pictures they show, but
1546
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:41.000
they're saying he might have done insider trading.
1547
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.880
See, that's that's the thing that I I have No,
1548
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.560
I have no doubt that like fuck Island was going on,
1549
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.159
and that was kind of that that that was one
1550
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.439
of the drawers for people. Yeah, but but I also
1551
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.880
don't believe that. So let's say, for instance, let let's
1552
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:09.319
let's do some role playing. I'm Bill Clinton and I've
1553
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.520
just gone to I've got I've just gone to Epstein Island,
1554
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.920
and it's all wonderful. I've had some fun, I've met
1555
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.960
some people, done some things I shouldn't have done. I've
1556
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.159
gone home. And then the next thing is I've got
1557
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.760
Jeffrey Epstein on the phone going, well, Bill, look at this,
1558
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:28.800
and he sends me photographs of what I was doing.
1559
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.880
And now all of a sudden, I'm a president in
1560
01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:37.920
the pocket of Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I don't believe. At
1561
01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:42.000
that point, you go, oh, this is not good. And
1562
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:45.359
then someone turns around around you and says another influential,
1563
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.560
powerful person says, I'm going to that island at the weekend.
1564
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.199
You'd be like, I know, no, you're not because I've
1565
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.840
been to the island. You need to stay away from that.
1566
01:30:56.199 --> 01:31:00.960
In the same way as in twenty twenty three, that
1567
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.760
biologist tried to get Joe Rogan to go to to
1568
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:07.239
go to the island to meet Jeffrey Epstein, and Rogan
1569
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:11.640
was like, no, I'm not fucking going there. I think
1570
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:15.560
it would have fell apart before it did. I think
1571
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:21.079
it's far more likely that this is more akin to
1572
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:28.520
a cult than a blackmail operation. Those people were going
1573
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.000
there because they wanted to go there, because they knew
1574
01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:32.000
what was going on there.
1575
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:39.199
And you know what's even more funny early is is
1576
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:41.920
Elon Musk go there.
1577
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:42.560
They kept on.
1578
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:52.239
Telling him no, no, I find that so strange, like that,
1579
01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:55.760
that's weird to me. It's weird they didn't want I
1580
01:31:55.840 --> 01:32:00.680
never Oh, yeah, no, I've I've read like a chunk
1581
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:04.600
of the emails, especially the like the important ones like that.
1582
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:07.960
Yeah, I find it really weird.
1583
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:10.760
Why wouldn't you Why Why wouldn't they have wanted Ela
1584
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.840
Musk there? That's a really good question. One of the
1585
01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:15.479
most powerful men in the world, then.
1586
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:18.399
Why why didn't they?
1587
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.720
But even back then he was why didn't they want him?
1588
01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:28.439
He's sure the wild thing is the wild thing makes
1589
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:30.640
me wonder whether he is actually a good guy.
1590
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.600
That's why they couldn't have him there, because he's almost
1591
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.600
like he's on our side. Do you not notice that
1592
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:41.840
with especially with X, he's almost like in the alternative movement,
1593
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:45.720
like he's pushed up as us, like this trustworthy figure,
1594
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:49.880
and they're probably thinking, actually, probably not a good idea
1595
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.119
to have this guy on board. I reckon possibility.
1596
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.399
Yeah, I'll just I'll just jump real quick. Yes, that
1597
01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.319
was the being that I believe that's Crawler you during
1598
01:32:59.399 --> 01:32:59.920
that picture.
1599
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.159
Yeah, that was totally from his book.
1600
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:05.399
Yeah, so that was that was Lamb.
1601
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:11.399
Yeah, yeah, good, which kind of looks like Elon Musk
1602
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:13.119
to a certain degree. And now to think about it.
1603
01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:18.840
So yeah, yeah, I don't know where I fall on
1604
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:23.199
elong like the and I think I think the thing
1605
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.880
is is we kind of we we kind of want
1606
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:30.279
somebody to be on our team, especially somebody powerful, And
1607
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:32.560
it kind of makes sense. It kind of makes sense
1608
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:37.119
if there is like a global cabal, it does make
1609
01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:39.680
sense that not everybody's on that team because that's not
1610
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:43.279
human nature, is it. It's not human nature for everybody
1611
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:45.840
to be there, Like if there's black hats. There is
1612
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:51.239
white hats. There has to be. Yeah, we hope so well, Well,
1613
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:53.680
the fact is I think the I think if there wasn't,
1614
01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:55.039
I think would already be fucked.
1615
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:57.600
I think we pretty much getting there.
1616
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.800
I think, Yeah, I don't we're far away.
1617
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:06.359
Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's crazy times for
1618
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.560
living in I have to. I mean, who do you
1619
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:11.640
trust now these days?
1620
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:18.479
This is a you know, just in Lord Jesus. I'm sorry, Dick,
1621
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:20.159
I know.
1622
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.399
I know you're fine, You're entited to your own opinions.
1623
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.640
Maybe I was just joking. I was just joking.
1624
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:29.279
Okay, fair enough for a funk then, okay, okay, Yeah,
1625
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:30.359
there'll be.
1626
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.359
There's always hope. There's always hope. Humanity is a way
1627
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:39.920
of saying we ain't gonna take this no more.
1628
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.640
I also, I genuinely like that it's funny the religious
1629
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.159
side of things, because I'm not.
1630
01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:46.319
I don't.
1631
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:48.520
I don't quite know what I am anymore. I'm definitely
1632
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:52.720
I'm definitely not an atheist question things, but but I'm
1633
01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:59.039
definitely more religious than I am even agnostic. I don't
1634
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:06.680
believe you can research conspiracy theories for that long and
1635
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:09.319
not come out of it holding some sort of religious values.
1636
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:10.960
I think sooner.
1637
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:17.560
I think sooner or later that the roads virtuality.
1638
01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:22.319
Yeah, I'm with you there, That's when my journey went.
1639
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:27.680
And then it was all mystical and magic and all
1640
01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:31.760
the ship and all roads lead to that, even NASA.
1641
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:32.600
Yeah.
1642
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:36.319
And the fact is that there's especially things like NASA.
1643
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:36.600
Yeah.
1644
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:41.600
But the fact is there is so many nods to
1645
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:47.840
there being some type of clique, cabal, whatever wherever we're
1646
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:55.039
going to call them, that hold some type of ancient well,
1647
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:57.319
we'll caught, for want of better words, we'll call it
1648
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:03.560
satanic religion. Yeah. And I just I look at that
1649
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:06.359
and I go, well, I want to be on the
1650
01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.000
other team. If that's the if that's the team thereon,
1651
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:11.920
then there has to be that has to be an
1652
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:15.680
antithesis to that, and the antithesis to that in most
1653
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:21.159
most cases, if he is to be Christianity, if he
1654
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:24.600
is to be the most hated and the most the
1655
01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:30.439
most demonized mainstream religion by those people, So I plant
1656
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:32.000
my flag closest to that.
1657
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.079
Mhm. Yeah.
1658
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:37.560
I think a good point there, unless you take it
1659
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:40.760
like a massive open mushrooms and then come back to
1660
01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:43.680
us and be like, Okay, let's stop into this.
1661
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:49.199
See I've done the other way I used to be
1662
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:55.079
very I've done more into the agnostic side. Now where
1663
01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:58.239
a lot of things that I'm seeing, like I'm one
1664
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:02.319
thing that I'm starting to realize from even the old taels.
1665
01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:05.159
This is why I want to get into the Mesopotamian
1666
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:07.439
ship and see see if I can make some sense
1667
01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:12.000
of this. But this earth, for this realm that we're in,
1668
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:21.560
ain't paradise. This belongs to the.
1669
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:23.239
You know, the Satan. This this realm belongs to Satan.
1670
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.560
And it says it clearly in the teachings. There did
1671
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.840
the one the one thing that blew my mind that
1672
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.800
set me along this way. The train of thought was,
1673
01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:36.359
I don't know if you remember the story with Jesus
1674
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:39.600
on on the mountain when Satan.
1675
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:44.800
Came to him, I was, I do yeah, And he
1676
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.640
was tempting him.
1677
01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:48.239
He was tempted him warning he made him an offer.
1678
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.159
He said, look, I will give you kingdoms on earth
1679
01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:57.079
if you just come with me. Now. Now, the conversation
1680
01:37:57.239 --> 01:38:00.640
in that didn't go like, you can't do that because
1681
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:04.640
you you don't have that power. This is not your realm.
1682
01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:08.800
You didn't say that. He just said, na, you understand
1683
01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:13.479
he is saying could offer from that because it's his
1684
01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:20.119
mm hm. And that that made me turn around and say,
1685
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:26.119
you know what, maybe maybe you're looking at something differently.
1686
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:30.159
That's why I let I'm going at more agnostic. But
1687
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:32.920
I want to know where these beliefs and stick stuff
1688
01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:33.760
came from.
1689
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.239
Yeah, m hm.
1690
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:40.640
Maybe sometimes that's why there's so much bad in this world,
1691
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.720
you know, because it's harder to communicate with the good one.
1692
01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:47.640
If this room belongs to.
1693
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.840
Something else, it would make sense, it would make sense
1694
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:52.640
why a lot of the bad stuff can happen. And
1695
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:56.119
you know, and it is, it's it's the it's that
1696
01:38:56.239 --> 01:39:00.239
religious paradox, isn't it like if if, if God is
1697
01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:05.560
all all or seeing, all over all, all loving, how
1698
01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.439
did the fucking taris of the terrible stuff happened? Maybe
1699
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.119
maybe maybe there's no way of interacting, Maybe there's no
1700
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:16.279
way of saving, but maybe through.
1701
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.479
Strong prayer and all that, it could. Maybe you remember
1702
01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:22.239
how I said Luigi board maybe he used that that's
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that's I don't know, I don't know, I don't know
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01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:27.680
nothing here, but this is the way I started to
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01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:28.199
see things.
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01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:32.720
And then and then what led me secondly is you
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01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:36.479
know the story about when Lucifer was an angel, Yeah,
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and he was cast out of out of heaven.
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01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.920
Yeah, mm hmm, he was cast down to earth.
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Yeah.
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And then they said, well, people interpreted that he went
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01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.680
to help, but he was cast down to earth. That's happened.
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01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.800
You could mingle and manipulate.
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01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:05.960
So it's I'm one of the things I found most interesting,
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01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:07.439
and this is one of the one of the things
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01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:09.880
that made me wake up and start thinking about it.
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01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:13.840
And this might might be something that that Nick can
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01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.840
jive with as well. I used I used to be
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01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:20.800
one of those people that if I heard people talk
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01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.439
and start talking about religion on a podcast about something and.
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01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.760
Immediately shut off. I just like this anymore.
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01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:33.199
I'll close it stop instantly there. And then I started
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01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:36.199
to ask myself, why am I getting that reaction?
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01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:37.439
Like what?
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Why is there this wall for a lot of people
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01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.279
that I bear in mind. I at this point, I'm
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01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:52.640
listening to all of the conspiracy theory podcasts. I'm listening
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01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:57.479
to ship I know isn't real, but then somebody happens
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01:40:57.479 --> 01:41:01.359
to mention Jesus Christ and I'm like, no, can't listen that?
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What that what a weird fucking response for somebody that's
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01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:09.800
just listened to like eight hours of Mark Sergeant's Flat
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Earth Clues, but like you, I mean like the but
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the minute somebody says something about Jesus and I'm fucking out.
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I can't, I can't listen to that. I think it's
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I think it's psychological. I think I think we are.
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I think we have been, especially like people that are
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our age that lived through the nineties, which was very
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01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:36.119
like religion was in the nineties into two thousands, was
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01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:38.920
very much put in a like a non cool thing.
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01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:41.279
Even look at like if we want to say that
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what the media does, look at the Simpsons, look at
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when we when we know how fucking on the ball
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01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:50.159
Simpson the Simpsons can be sometimes like Ned Flanders was
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01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:52.840
made to be one of the stupidest, most pathetic characters
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01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:53.680
in the Simpsons.
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It was the only religious one.
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We were made to think it was uncool. And I
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think that's why for so many people they switch off
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01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:09.039
so quickly, because we've had decades of of decades of
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01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.560
being hammering. Why would you have any interest in that?
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I like to I like to say that maybe people
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01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:19.039
lost faith in these people, and they say, well, this
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01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:22.319
is your God that you're representing, because don't forget. Also,
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01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:27.119
in the nineties and two thousands and still going on now,
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01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:30.479
there have been horrid things that have came out about
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the priests and the religion that they with they hold,
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01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:41.560
you know, not just not just the obvious ALTI boys stuff,
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01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:46.560
but you know, the the orphanages, the babies, the bodies
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that they just found in Ireland. Yeah, you know, so
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01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:55.920
would it not be that as well that people are like,
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you know what man, this is this is your God
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01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:00.319
or this is.
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01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:04.359
You get what I'm trying to say then sort of people.
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And then and then how the church handled it as well.
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The people that got caught out, they they moved them along.
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Don't get me wrong. I think I think the church
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01:43:14.359 --> 01:43:18.600
itself is one hundred percent co opted by the like
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we'll go cabal again with just a blanket. I think
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it is one hundred percent infiltrayed one hundred.
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But the words will never be That's what I always
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held on. I I had my dissolution from the church
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a long time ago, but I was lucky because my
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mother allowed me to explore. Because my mom said, faith
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is about something where you're comfortable at so I've started
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01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:50.399
out as Catholic. I did my I did my Catechism,
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01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:57.159
and I it never sat right to me that they're
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hiding behind the confession box because they hide behind a quote.
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They hide behind the passage in the Bible where it
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01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:09.920
says God will forgive you seventy times seventy. That's a
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hell of a lot of time.
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Isn't it. Yeah, So you can do a lot of
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01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:20.079
bad shit from Monday to the Saturday, as long as
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01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:24.840
you make it Sunday and tell some total stranger the
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01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.479
ship that you've done all week your gravy. It's kind
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01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:30.159
of like, it's kind of like, I'll tell you what
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01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:32.279
the best the best man. The best quote I like
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01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:33.279
was al Pacino.
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01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:36.520
Have you heard the story about the bicycle al Pacino
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in the bicycle?
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01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:38.640
Now? All right?
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When al Pacino was younger, he prayed for like two
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years for a bicycle and it never came. So he
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01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.039
decided to go and steal one and go and ask
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01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:50.319
God for forgiveness.
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01:44:52.600 --> 01:44:55.399
Oh yeah, because he's a Catholic. He was a Catholic, like,
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01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:56.880
got it? Got it? Well?
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01:44:57.039 --> 01:44:59.600
I think he still is a Catholic. But that's just
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01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:04.520
theocracy of it, and it didn't set well with me
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because my understanding of being a good person was to
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01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.319
try and be christ Like. So that's where it led
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01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:13.079
me to Christians, because that's what it stands for, to
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01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:20.640
be christ Like. And I like the Christians. But I
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01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:23.720
went into a place where they were talking, they were
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01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:27.319
scaring you. I believe it was a Baptist kind of Christianity,
1805
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:29.640
and they were scaring you.
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01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:29.880
Man.
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01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:34.600
They were like, imagine hell, and they played movies. And
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01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:37.720
I never felt right with that because I just felt
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01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:41.800
like I always understood that I would come to where
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01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:44.319
I needed to be. I don't want to say God,
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01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:53.079
I want to say, you know the energy? You get
1812
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:58.800
what I mean? So I always knew I would. Happily enough,
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01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:01.640
I found it. I found the energy that I need
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01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:04.640
where I'm comfortable with. But with that energy, I can
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01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:11.520
question the ideology of that energy. Do you get it now?
1816
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:14.119
I think that's the best way I can put it,
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01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:17.840
because I do know that these stories that we have
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01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:21.640
been told from the Bible come from a lot older place.
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01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:24.640
They've just been chiseled and refined.
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01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.319
Well absolutely, I mean there are older religions, you know.
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That's that's it. That's always been a sticking point for
1822
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:37.640
me is so, so what like, what of what of
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01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:38.920
the older religions?
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01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:41.520
Well, this is why, this is why I'm looking into
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01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:47.359
Mesopotamian because they are the oldest known civilizations to keep records.
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01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:52.000
So what was that? Because they had religion? Mm hmm,
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01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:55.960
So what was it? Who were they worshiping? What was
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01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:57.159
the ideology of that?
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01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.079
You see this, this was something that I said last
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01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:07.880
night to Nick on the podcast. Was the way the
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01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:11.800
way I look at it. You can you can you
1832
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:17.399
can google it as far as the beginning of atheism,
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01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:23.760
which realistically it's like you'll get like people will pop
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01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:25.880
up and say that it was like a five hundred
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01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:28.439
BC or something like that, but it fucking bullshit. It's
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01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:33.319
it was fifteen hundreds is the first like written accounts
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01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:39.119
of atheism. So you've got all that history before the
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01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:44.159
fifteen hundreds, before it was even theorized that there wasn't
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01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:48.079
there wasn't some sort of deity. I just tend to
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01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:52.119
hedge myself with the majority of history that there's something,
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01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.760
that there is something spiritually relevant out there.
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01:47:58.960 --> 01:47:59.399
M hmm.
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01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:03.760
What's your technique?
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01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:03.880
Man?
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01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:11.239
What I feel? I feel there is definitely an entity
1846
01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:15.199
out there I don't personally believe in a Christian God,
1847
01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:17.760
but I do believe there are some some sort of
1848
01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:21.920
powerful force that I have felt through my mushroom trips. Okay,
1849
01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:26.640
one will say, well, you're just hallucinating, Lee, You might
1850
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.079
say the same thing, but there's definitely a very powerful
1851
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:34.359
force out there, a very spiritual force. But I wouldn't
1852
01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:37.319
necessarily saying is that a God in the clouds? You know?
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01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.840
And that's sort of the Christian aspect of a god.
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01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:45.880
That's just my personal opinion on that, which I haven't
1855
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:49.680
really explored or really sort of had a felon grasp
1856
01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:52.680
because I would agree with you Lea on that aspect
1857
01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.239
of the factor. So when someone mentions like no disrespected,
1858
01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:58.600
and so mentions a BACKT Jesus Christ, I'm like, I'm gone,
1859
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:03.279
that's it, is it. I'm zoned out. But I should
1860
01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:04.479
be more open minded.
1861
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:08.199
It's an uncomfortable conversation. It's an uncomfortable conversation to have
1862
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.319
with yourself to go I have a visceral reaction to this,
1863
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:15.439
and I need to work out why I'm having it exactly.
1864
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.439
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you don't want to go there,
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01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:21.560
So it's like you just block it out, yeah, which
1866
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:25.319
I think is a very naive approach really so. But
1867
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:29.760
I think now where we all are going through a
1868
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:33.119
very very difficult time, you know, like well, i've been
1869
01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:35.600
talking about the whole planet in this country, you know,
1870
01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:38.920
the Great Awakening so to speak. I think people are
1871
01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:42.119
going to be more open minded to these sort of
1872
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:46.720
ideas and thoughts. There's something probably to it, moving towards
1873
01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.600
either spirituality or religion. I think one of the two,
1874
01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:56.000
which is both the same thing, and everyone look at it. Yeah, yeah,
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01:49:56.039 --> 01:50:01.399
so I think we should ended there. I think we've
1876
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:07.520
had a really good conversation going through different conspiracies and yeah,
1877
01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:11.319
it makes people think. And hopefully this was good for you, Lee,
1878
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:14.359
to pop into the The Hidden under Belly Show.
1879
01:50:14.439 --> 01:50:16.239
It's been right. I hope you'll have us back on
1880
01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:17.760
again because I've really enjoyed this.
1881
01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:22.640
Bring Small Hand Dollie on as well next time if
1882
01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:23.199
I must.
1883
01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:30.760
Yeah, I've got to bring a conspiracy wife. He's going
1884
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:32.640
to be so jealous that I've cheated on with two
1885
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:33.239
handsome men.
1886
01:50:36.039 --> 01:50:38.199
Thank you very much. That's awesome going there, We're both
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01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:44.000
handsome and there we go. But before we leave, Lee,
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01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:47.399
where can the good people find you.
1889
01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:51.279
You can find the Daily Conspiracy Podcast on all podcast platforms,
1890
01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:54.680
like we're everywhere. The best way to get in touch
1891
01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:58.920
with us is probably probably Instagram if you don't want
1892
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:01.960
to leave a comment on Spotify, Like, if you do
1893
01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:04.039
listen to us on the podcast and you listen to
1894
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:06.800
us on Spotify, drop a comment. I read all the comments,
1895
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:09.520
every single comment every day I read and we do
1896
01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:11.239
really well for comments on Spotify.
1897
01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:14.319
But yeah, you can get in touch with us that way.
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01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:15.840
You can get a.
1899
01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:21.479
DM me on on X you can DM me on Instagram.
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01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:25.520
We have a Facebook, but the Facebook is underutilized, but
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01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:27.760
we will. We will answer dms if your DM is
1902
01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:31.079
on that. But yeah, just search Daily Conspiracy Podcast.
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01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:31.479
Were there.
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01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:35.119
We do five shows a week. We're kind of kind
1905
01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:35.920
of five shows a week.
1906
01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:39.279
We do four shows a week, and then Friday we
1907
01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:41.920
put all of the episodes out together in one big
1908
01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:44.840
long podcast for people that have nothing better to do
1909
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:49.000
with their lives. So yeah, just just come find the
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01:51:49.079 --> 01:51:51.840
DCP and we'll be absolutely there for you.
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01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:56.039
Fantastic. I've just put the link in description right there
1912
01:51:56.439 --> 01:52:00.439
for you to click on to the Spotify can't wait
1913
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:02.640
and find the Daily Conspiracy Podcast and you go three
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01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:03.520
times a week, is it?
1915
01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:06.600
Well, well, we put we put five, We put four
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01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:09.479
shows up a week. We put for for anyone, anyone
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01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:12.439
that's coming into the show new technically we put four
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01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:15.560
shows a week. We put an older episode up on
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01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:19.000
Monday that we call the re Abducted series. So right
1920
01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:21.800
right now we're putting older classic episodes from like twenty
1921
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:29.039
twenty four up. Then we do brand new shows Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
1922
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:31.760
and now, as I said, Friday, everything gets wrapped up
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01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:34.159
into a nice little box for you just to listen to.
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01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:34.560
On one go.
1925
01:52:34.680 --> 01:52:36.880
We've got got quite a lot of truckers, truck quite
1926
01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:38.640
a lot of truckers and long distance lorry drivers and
1927
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:39.600
stuff that listened to us.
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01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:41.479
And that was kind of our little fight.
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01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:44.640
We know you've got a day, a whole day on
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01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:47.600
your hands, so here's six hours of us to try
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01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:49.159
to put you to sleep while you're on the road.
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Nice like a little art bell sort of radio show.
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I can see. Yeah, yeah, alright.
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Also, movies, got a questions he wants me to ask you.
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01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:07.640
Is there a conspiracy behind l Dave Leavin or did
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01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:12.279
he just go behind back to live on his murdered
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farm in the Mountains.
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Unfortunately, there was a there was a disagreement about the
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direction of the show. Some people take disagreements well, some
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people don't take disagreements.
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Well.
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Ollie has spoken to Dave once or twice since he
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left the podcast. I haven't personally spoke to Dave since
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he left, so that's kind of it. There isn't really
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a There isn't really a conspiracy as such, just a
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difference of opinions on what we should have been doing.
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And that was it. Shame I missed the guy. I
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do genuinely I miss having having him there to talk to.
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But it's can't can't go crying over spilt Dave's.
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Okay. Well, in that note, thanks for having thanks for
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I was going to say, thanks for having.
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Me on, thank you for letting me take over your show.
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I think I've had so much weed. Man. Well, it
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was a chill show and I knew it would be
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I knew it would be great. I enjoyed it.
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You know one thing though, one thing. Can I just
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get your opinion before you go?
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Yeah, you saw what the Epstein File said about Michael Jackson.
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Yeah didn't you didn't you find that interesting?
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I did you know what I find most interesting about
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Michael Jackson, and I don't I know, we're gonna we're
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going to clear it off off here really quickly. I
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find it most interesting that every conspiracy theorist seems to
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think every singer the actor is a satanic pedophile, apart
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from Michael Jackson, which we have the most evidence about
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him being like a pedophile. Is that not weird? The
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Michael Jackson conspiracy pirate paradox is fucking wild.
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When you know what, when you put it that way,
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it shines kind of a weird light on it, because
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that far, that far the bit is in there. Anyways,
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let's say goodbye, Yeah.
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Good it hit the goodbye button.
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You remember your mom when she used to say goodbye?
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And she's on the phone again for another twenty minutes.
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Yeah that Nick, you're doing anything on Friday?
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Yeah, I'll be back live on Friday. So yeah, come
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shouting on and.
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Addict, do you know what you're talking about?
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No idea, No idea about aliens us update yourpology?
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But that way?
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So yeah, but late, Thank you so much, mate, it's
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a pleasure.
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Are they going to release any files this Friday?
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No idea? Mate, is up is that.
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The schedule wasn't it every two weeks?
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Yeah, but they've been breaking the promises. But anyway, I
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shall get in contact with.
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Government government breaking promises, I have it.
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I'm going I'll speak to Lee's future wife and Polina
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Luna and try and get a prodict. Yes on that one.
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I'm just going to go and sit in that tree
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again and look through a window.
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Well, you can ask Mark Christopherly he tell you all.
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He was supposed to go on our show.
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He was supposed to. Yeah, we hadn't We hadn't booked
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to come on as a guest, and then he disappeared
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on us.
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Maybe he was adupted, just amazing.
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Maybe he might have to do a box of that
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was his great come through skill to just get away
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from the CIA. That is like the wildest See we
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should have talked about that. That's a bad.
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Conspiracy in himself, isn't it.
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You know about that, but you know about the kung
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fu skills that he did to get away from the CIA.
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Yes, Yeah, I love We've we've had bart On multiple
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times on the show and like he is that I
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swear that's something so charming about that guy.
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I love him. To death. He's so nice.
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Okay, Well, on that note, then to talk to the
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fen Dolly We're born to lee. See, I'm so stoned man. Anyways, anyways, man,
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that's it. You know where to catch you know where
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to catch on Lea Nicks on Friday, check him out.
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Me I'll catch you again. So on that note, man,
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stay blessed and keep safe
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Okay, okay, So without any further ado, here to talk
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about his pot is arm Show, the Daily Conspiracy podcast,
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and here to talk about some crazy conspiracies or maybe not.
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I hope you got your ten to four hats ready
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and your fatties rolled and you're icing your glass whatever
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you're gonna do. Man, I hope you're ready, because we're
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gonna sit back and this is gonna be a nose
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holes bog show. Ali, I mean, Lee is as as
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a foul mouth, so the same for the same for children.
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So if there's any kids, please tell them to leave
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the room or watch it later on. Now I'll call
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control a man's mouth. So anyways, here comes the filthiest
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mouth in the isle of men. It's mister Lee. I
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don't give a.
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How are you doing, guys? Necessarily on your intro is
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fucking incredible.
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I love that.
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anything that sort of industrial metal, I'm all over.
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And that was that was cool.
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Oh thank you.
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I can't take credit for it, though, because that did
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pop up somewhere online and it's all AI.
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The guy did the AI and he did the music.
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a tool. It gets it gets the job done. Sometimes.
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by hand, like the old fashioned way. So like, it's
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it's it's a it is a cheat code creativity to
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Out, absolutely absolutely, So how's it going, lad with the
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Good Man? Like, it was nice seeing some of the
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people that have that pop up in the chat so, like,
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the of the Spotify work of the Spotify and podcast world.
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It's all gone. Well nice, glad to hear it, glad
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to hear it. So obviously talking about conspiracies. What has
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was going to be aliens?
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Isn't it the fact that we're getting disclosure soon? Aren't we?
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Are we going to get given the aliens soon? I
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keep I keep being told we're getting given the aliens?
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Doctor Phil saying it? The who who is the guy
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that got a load of load of views on TikTok
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to pretend to have an alien in his back garden?
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Oh Franco, Yeah, James Franco. Wouldn't it be wild if
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all of the things that's the thing that's actually real
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and it, wouldn't it be crazy?
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the show, after the show, before the show went before
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you came on, and we were talking about that the
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new alien video that's doing around with the A the
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You ain't seen that?
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No ship?
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Do you want to? Can you find it? Nick?
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I can go find it. It's almost like the Skinny
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it that this reminds me of skinny Bob Souf. Look,
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let's head check this out.
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to draw their heads.
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to the Golden disc that we send out.
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That looks very AI generated.
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It gets it gets better.
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going to get something that comes out real? I I
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good chance there at some point something will come out
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and then we're just gonna call it AI.
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It's happen. It's happening already.
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people in in in that that watches UF for videos
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Here is the hands.
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Marilyn Manson.
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Tell you what he's doing, A real neat job canting
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those as well, And that's it.
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That is a very skinny bob. But yeah, I think
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There's some There's there's some other videos doing around as well.
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an airplane off a US Find the style.
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Right and that's like a silver blob.
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Got it right there?
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Wow, this is very skinny bob, isn't it?
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Three videos. This was taking. This was put out two
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months ago. Ly this one here, I'm not I don't understand.
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I don't understand how I haven't seen this.
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I think it's because that fake alien one did the
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rounds of other people who found the camera.
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Turn down. So we're on a helicopter.
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I mean this look true?
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Oh I do you know what though? I really do
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think this is the same the same person that the
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Skinny Bob stuff though, Yeah, I think because yeah, because
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the you know, the member the UFO parts of the
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of the Skinny Bob footage. That's very artistically a very
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similar style.
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That's see.
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Oh, I'm unsure about that.
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I don't really I don't.
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I don't know if it's AI. That's what I'm trying
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to say, I do. I don't think the flappy around things.
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Look at look AI. It's really good though, isn't it.
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It's I have to be really good, very realistic. I
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have to be. Let's go back a bit. We'll sure
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the alien in the SEC if it came out and
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if this came out in early two thousands, this would
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absolutely a lot of people. Well, let's be honest about it.
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Then then does does that give the original skinny Bob footage,
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like the the UFO parts of it. Does that give
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it more validity that that did come out at that time?
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skinny bobs like computer generated.
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It's like CGI.
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process and power you'd have needed back then to do
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that sort of work would have been pretty fucking incredible.
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now where blended Blender is like free and as long
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as you've got something like a like a reasonably decent
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graphics card in your computer, you could.
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I don't think you could have done that back then
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without some some serious gear in your PC. That to
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me doesn't look that to me doesn't look c gr
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AI generated.
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You have you not seen the AI movie that those
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two brothers made.
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I just think there's sometimes with like things things like
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that that piece of rope flapping around. They generally they
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end up being there, but they end up being really
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good tells because you're you know, you're not just trying
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to fake like movement there, because if you look at
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the like most AI people as like videos of of
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people moving around if the wind blows them and stuff
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like that, it always kind of looks fake because like
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fluid dynamics is really really difficult to sort out that.
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Look that is the Skinny Bob footage very near you're
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from the crash.
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Yeah, oh that kind of looks fake, though I have
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to emit it's a good fake. It doesn't take me
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saying it.
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Does, right, I'm gonna I don't know, so I'm going
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to steal man it?
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What do we so?
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It's so like looking at sorry to put into myself there,
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but looking at this guy, this is clearly supposed to
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be Skinny Bob again, isn't it. It's exactly the same
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See that that looks like cartoon. But but then again,
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like the other bit that you said looks looks c G,
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I are we saying it looks because because it looks realistic.
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I just had a thought on this. What if my
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man used all the techniques? What have you used a
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little bit of c G? I in what if on
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his old computer doing it? And so what if you
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used a little bit of AI and mixed it in,
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so it's harder. But because I know it's made, it
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looks completely fake.
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It looks completely fake because it looks real.
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That's that's why I.
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Don't all it don't look real at all.
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But well, but the thing i'm the real reason I'm
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saying is if there was like that doesn't to me
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that looks too much.
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But like, for instance, the alien line on the floor for.
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Instance, Yeah, or that yeah, is that not exactly what
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it would look like if you recorded that?
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still can't say, well, because it looks real, it's got
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to be real.
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No. But but aren't we just saying that about it
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being fake because it looks because.
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It looks it looks too good, it must be cgi.
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No, it doesn't look too good. It doesn't. Okay, look,
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I'm not going to get it because it doesn't look
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it don't look right. The whole thing don't look right.
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But it wouldn't the Again, I'm still manning this for
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entertainment purposes. But the isn't there a good argument to
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say that you are literally looking at something alien? So therefore,
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like the the the way your mind would look looking
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at this, Like one of my favorite stories is I
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don't know how how true true this is. But when
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America was discovered, the first landers hit the beach, and
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until they explained right and showed by by pointing the
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ships on the horizon to the natives on the beach,
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the natives couldn't see the ships because the these large
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like schooners that turned.
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Up or whatever type of ship it would have been.
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Sorry if I don't know my fucking colonial nautical history,
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but it was so alien to them they couldn't they
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couldn't see it, Joe Jo. I mean like it was
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just it was beyond comprehension that you could have had
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these like bait for them, floating cities on the water.
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So if it's where if if we're shown like.
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Genuine footage of an alien gray, the cognitive dissonance in
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our heads is going to be so mental. I think
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there's a there's a really good chance we just go,
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let's cartoon.
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See. This is why I love me. This is why
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I love me.
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You know this, This reminds me of the old times,
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you remember, Because I'm not buying that. I don't buy
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that I don't. I don't buy that for one instance,
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that yes, you are right to an extent that certain
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people will be that way, but that's how their mind
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is wired. And there'll be other people that will believe
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it without questioning it, yes, because that's how their mind
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is wired. Then there'll be others like myself who would say,
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hold on, I want the beats on this. I'm not
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going to say it's it's fake because I'm not going
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to call a video fake because it looks fake. I'm
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gonna call it fake because it's fake.
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This is what I'm saying. This is fake.
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Do you know what I find weird? Weird about this though?
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Like just that where you pouse that frame, Now, if
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you splice that into the skinny Bob footage, I don't
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think anybody would tell the difference.
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It's probably the same Ivan dude.
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So but that's the weird thing about this. Then if
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it is the same Ivan dude, First of all, why
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would he not post it on the Ivan account?
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Second because because it would add it adds more to
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the mystery. So I'll take the one off the table.
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But this is, this is the second.
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Part of it.
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It would be so difficult too because if we're saying,
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if we're saying this is AI generated and not however
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the original skinny Bob footage was made, it would be
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so difficult to make something that wasn't AI generated look
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exactly the same.
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I I.
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I've messed around with a lot of the AI video
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generation I I. I think it would be incredibly difficult
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to recreate the Skinny Bob footage using AI, using AI, But.
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It wouldn't be It wouldn't be that difficult to do
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it creating a map as a c G. I.
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No, No, that's so that that's fair. But I mean,
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but this that this is why I'm kind of real
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and it being AI generated out that's no.
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No, you were corrected correct there because I jumped to
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it saying it's a it could be.
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C G I.
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Yes, definitely. I think people forget that as well.
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People forget that c G c G I good c
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G I with money thrown behind it is like world's
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apart and much better than AI. Everyone everyone jumps on
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the AI.
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Bandwagon at the moment, and myself.
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It's interest in that.
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It's really interesting.
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It's a cool it's a cool fake. It's a cool fake.
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Yeah, and you got to think that for this time
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period it said nineteen sixty one on here. I'm pretty
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sure that time period they actually had colored video footage
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might be wrong because I think it's like nineteen fifties.
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It was like black and white. But read if.
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They would have done book color footage would have been
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a lower resolution than black and white back then. Yeah,
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if you want something documented for detail, you'd have done
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it in black and white.
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Sure. Sure. I mean the reason an explanation why this
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is fake that the fact that it's very grainy. There
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are certain spots, I mean, for instance, where I paused
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it here, the neck is black taut, so it's not
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really going to specific details. This is it in contrast
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with the lighting of the room. This is it. I
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think it's done in this stylistic way to sort of
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in a way. It's pretty good. But I think I'm
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green with hidden on this one. The fact that the
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guy is most probably the guy who created the Skinny
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Bob created this another account, just to you know, because
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if it was linked to skinny Bob, but people go immediately, oh,
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that's just fake.
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Maybe I think there's a lot of people out there
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that still think skinny Bob footage.
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Is real indeed.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely, others others. But I think that's a very small
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community of people. Yeah maybe once they start, once they
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start getting more and more deeper into this thing, they'll
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realize that, hey, it's a good fake.
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I'm always surprised the amount of people that pop up
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about the Skinny Bob footage when we talk about aliens.
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I'm always surprised about the amount of people that that
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are that's well in with it being real. I think
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it probably is fake. Don't don't get me wrong. But
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I'm like, if it turned out it was real, it
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wouldn't It wouldn't surprise.
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Me, do you know what I mean. I'd be like,
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all right, okay, interesting.
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See I recently have subscribed to a channel. I am
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going to get to your questions guy. As soon as
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I see him, I do tag him. But I recently
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stored sub subscribe to a channel. Now I know it's fake.
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Even YouTube knows it's fake because now he's put it
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as AI. It's got the start with the AI, right,
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but it's got a really cool backstory. It's basically this guy.
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He says he was on mining for bitcoins and he
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came across all these files, and he's only just managed
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to decipher these files. And he talks this computer jargon,
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and because I don't understand what he's saying, but basically
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saying he had to write a new script to decipher
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the files, Yadia, and he's just done it. And these
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files are wild. They're really cool. Could I show you one?
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Yeah? Please?
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But I mean it's completely fake. I know it's fake.
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I think a lot of people that are watching his
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channel they also know it's a lark. But it's really cool.
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I think sometimes we forget that in the like conspiracy
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theory and like truth for community, sometimes things can be
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done just because they're cool and fun, you know, like
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sometimes it's not a hoax. Sometimes somebody just made a
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fucking cool video.
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And sort of left it to the community to sort
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of make their own into it. This is it. It's
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because because it's it's a bit like for instance, like
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this footage right here, it's been put out. You don't
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know the real person behind it. It's just to see
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what sort of traction it can get. And I think
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this is probably the case right here, what we're seeing.
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You know, I have some it's it's pretty good. I
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have to make it's pretty good. But like you said, Lee,
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we're living in a day and age where people just
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immediately go, oh, it's Ai because we just jumped off
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the bag bag because that's where we are now in society.
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Yeah. I did that myself, so it smacked me too. Man.
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The first was AI. I had this channel.
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Here is but remember the video that we just watched,
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the videos, the videos that we just watched. Now I'm
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getting this one up and I want to show you
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guys that this is AUS. This is marked Yeah, we
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got it. Now is it up there?
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He goes, let me roll it down a bit and
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can you see here it's marked a Zahi right, Okay,
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now again, I just just remember last video, the footage
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over last the now check the check this quality out.
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Now.
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This is a story in February two thousand and eight
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mining for a small crypto called BTX. I know none
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of this, but he says he's found six hundred and
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thirteen unknown files on the drive and then he's managed
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to transfer them and this is one of them. This
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is pretty cool.
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This is actually the video that made me subscribe because
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I thought, you know what, this is some good stuff.
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Oh sorry, there we go. I'll play it from there. Yeah,
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there's sounds as well. I think I'm right. Here we go.
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Now just remember the picture quality. I guess I should
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have started it sooner.
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Sorry, I think we need to describe what we're seeing
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because this is going on the experience a podcast. No
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one can't see.
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It's okay, they understand what a live stream as well.
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Very, that's pretty good.
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Oh wait till you see the flying pyramids.
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So lots of this video is it's showing what looks
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like an ancient culture in Egypt.
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We don't know where this is. Like this this is
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LEVI taking.
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I think this looks more obviously AI generated though. Look
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at this man, right, that's that there? Like that perramid
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going back together. That kind of proves my point about
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the flappy stuff in the in the helicopter on the
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last last video. It doesn't do fluid dynamics well.
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Like that.
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Yeah, you can see that as being like it looks
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like a video game, video game for that's that's awesome.
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Though. I love stuff like this.
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Because it reminded did you guys have the pleasure of
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coming across the humunculous videos back in the YouTube heydays.
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So do we know what? Do we know what humunculous is? No,
444
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what's that right?
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Humunculus is like old old school alchemy where people would
446
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would try to impregnate chicken eggs with human human gear. Yes,
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so I found him like one night.
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I like it. I sure what I'm sure.
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It was like after an alienatic podcast as well, and
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I was hammered and I watched like the first two
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videos and I ended up staying up for another three
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hours and watched.
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Everything that he put out, and then it's really good.
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But it's one of my favorite things because No, I
455
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only found out a couple of years later what happened,
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because if you remember the last video he did, the
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video stopped when the Humunculus escaped out of the tank
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and then there was no more videos. And but the
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reason there was no more videos is completely unrelated the
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poor guy that was making the videos.
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It was obviously it was all it was fake.
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But looked it looked like the Tumunculus had killed him.
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And it was left like that because unfortunately, after he
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filmed the last video, the guy died, died of a
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heart attack, and he so he he left his own
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like Mythos with those videos.
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It was. It was incredible.
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Yeah, those videos. I mentioned that the couple of times.
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Remember when we were.
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Looking at the on the guy that had the black
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Michael the meteorite that had black goo coming out and
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had microwave, and I said, that reminds me of the
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Russian dude with the egg. Yeah, because it was doing
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all that. Yeah.
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Yeah, I enjoyed.
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The guy that thought that said he'd found the the
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long metal tube as well, that kind of looked like
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the Bungus Boger sphere on either side of it. Yeah,
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something like that. Yeah, James, but I couldn't see.
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I couldn't see why anybody couldn't see past this guy.
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Yeah, I know.
482
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And they were actually they.
483
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Were really pissed off when he came when he admitted
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that he was taking it.
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They were actually pissed off.
486
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But I know why though, because like it's it's one
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of the things I've always thought about, like conspiracy theory content,
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Like what we try, what we try and do in
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the Daily Conspiracy podcast is like we're not debunkers, so
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we'll always try and do stuff that we believe that
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there is a possibility of it.
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Being really like that.
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And I'm like I don't enjoy watching debunking channels purely
494
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for the fact that nobody wants to sit there for
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an hour and a half be until Father Christmas isn't real?
496
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Where's the like I somewhere down the line, and I
497
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.000
blame uthology for this because as soon as the Loube
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Alessandro's and stuff got involved in upology, suddenly like like
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took on this this life where it stopped being a
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conspiracy theory and became news. You know, it became news
501
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that was coming from like mainstream media sources.
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Somewhere down the line.
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People forgot that in two thousand and thirteen, in twenty twelve,
504
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we were we were listening to podcasts about flat Earth
505
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and Bigfoot and all these other things, not because like
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we were searching for searching for the truth. No, it
507
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was fucking entertaining. I think somewhere down the line people
508
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have forgotten that some of this some of this stuff
509
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might not be real, some of it stuff might be real,
510
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.920
some of it is definitely real, but it should always
511
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be fun to look into.
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I think people really want the truth now, and I
513
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think they really want to believe, and I think that
514
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.359
comes to the point where someone comes out as faking
515
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stuff like since the Jameses Rod as one would say,
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and he calls people gullibard for actually believing it. It's like,
517
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you know, he could, he could have kept the grift going,
518
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.839
but I think he found out quite quickly how powerful
519
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.440
the people of the internet can actually be finding out
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the person.
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And plus he was being poured out, weren't he a
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couple of his videos people were pulling up saying, hold
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hold up.
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It's amazing how people, especially once it gets on Reddit
525
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and fore Chan, like it can be like as still
526
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with a bush and a tree, there these crazy autistic bastards.
527
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Like the next thing, you know, they've got this place
528
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fucking nailed down on like on Google Maps. They then
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they know where his houses, they know where his job is,
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they know there his mother's got one leg and his
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father's gay.
532
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You know this.
533
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It's like the what they dig up on these people
534
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is incredible.
535
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M Yeah, true, Yeah. I think we're living in a
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day and age where like like I said, it's everyone
537
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so wants the truth and they can't really par fact
538
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from fiction. This is it.
539
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Well, I can't make my mind up with that. Whether
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it's because I said to you last night when you
541
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were on the podcast, Nick. Part of me believes that
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we are living in a literal time of revelation where
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all truths will be told and there's nothing like it.
544
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You go back to, like the QAnon stuff like that
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that I.
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I juggle with.
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How much validity I give that type of thing. But
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one of the things that does keep coming back to
549
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me when it comes to that stuff is the quote
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like nothing can stop what's coming. And I feel that
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from the beginning pandemic time to now you kind of
552
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.160
feel that way. It kind of feels like, regardless of
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what happens, something is happening, and sometimes it feels like
554
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it's being orchestrated to happen, and other times it feels
555
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.599
like there is people in the background desperately trying to
556
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make plans because they can't stop it happening.
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00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.960
Sure, yeah, it kind of like something is brewing to
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a certain degree. And do you know what, Late I
559
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would agree with you. So it feels like something's brewing.
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I mean, if we sort of latched onto the fat
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I mean, for instance, like disclosure, as I mentioned to
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you yesterday on the podcast, you know we are, it
563
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feels disappointing what in regards of the information coming out
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to the public. And we differed on on dependence. Who says,
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in a way these documents and these video footage is
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ty is trying to at least ease the the normies,
567
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.480
so to speak, the non believers into Okay, there's conspiracy lube.
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00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.000
That's what have their conspiracy lube? Yeah, And I would say, well, actually,
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you know this is old information. You know, documents has
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been declassified for many years. The video footage is not
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that great. But in one aspect of what you're saying
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is like, yeah, I kind of understand. It's like trying
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to ease people in slowly. And you would say that's
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a slow drip disclosure. And like I said, I would
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agree with you. It feels like something is brewing. Yeah.
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See, I don't know whether it's a sigh up or
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not what. So write good distraction.
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From what.
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From what's really going down.
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So I would say that this started in twenty seventeen
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with the New York Times article, and I think it's
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been a continual rise from there.
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So whatever which New York Times article, the New.
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York Times article that came out about the crash, retrieval.
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Oh, we're still talking about the UFO stuff.
586
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.599
Yeah, yeah, no, But I'm just saying I think that
587
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that's where this, the whole this like disclosure movement started.
588
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I still believe that.
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00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:10.160
We are in the middle of a ten year operation,
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whether it's psychological or whether it's I mean technically, it's
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psychological either way, because it's preparing people psychologically for something.
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I think next year. I think I think next year
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we get and I'm not sure, like I say, I
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don't know whether it's gonna be real or not. I
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think we get pictures of bodies and planes and chips surcers.
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Hard like we're gonna get people.
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00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.599
We might be here going like this bullshit, guys, but
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there is gonna be official confirmation on that Department of
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War website which has got a picture of an alien
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and a picture of a flying saucer.
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The main problem with that if you look at the
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person behind who's given us this document, it's it's it's
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Christopher Mellon. And other thing I've got to mention Yesterdaily
604
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in regards of Tim Brikshet, the representative, he was saying
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that the government has been blocked to act to be
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access to certain information, certain files by the intelligence agency,
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and he's always said that, and that's always quite always mentioned.
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So it goes to show that this disclosure narrative being
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pushed is very controlled. But I think it's the sort
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of files is not going to be access to the
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public unless things change over time. I think I would
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argue that that is part of If I was thinking
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that this was a psychological operation, I would say I'd
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say it was part of the narrative so that when
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Chris Mellen and Tim Burcher and Annapoloon and my future wife,
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when they when they released the picture of the aliens
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and the fine sources, they will they will do it
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under the cover of we beat the deep state and
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we got you the information.
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I think, I think, I think, I think, I think
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you all are pludging on straws, and I think they're
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doing it right in front of your face. I mean,
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they've set up a uf U, a p Congruss, haven't they,
624
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.679
And who's the who's the head of it, who's there,
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00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.119
Who's going to get anything? When they are hiring a
626
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straight up liar.
627
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Oh no, no, I get where I get where you're
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coming from. I'm kind of like in the middle. With
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all this, All I'm all I'm saying is, how.
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Can you be in the middle. The guy has a
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check record through planning money.
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Yeah for talking ship, Yeah for.
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Not knowing what well he does know what a comment is?
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A comment is he does know? He doesn't know? He
635
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just lies split he lies.
636
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But you might be right.
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But what But in a way this doesn't matter because
638
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what I'm saying is is that regardless of how true
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it is or not, like the majority of people out
640
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.360
there are looking at this stuff thinking it's one hundred
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percent above board, one hundred percent real, the majority of people.
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But we're we're here now talking and we are the ones,
643
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:05.840
we are the voices.
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00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.559
And we have to call it out there and say, well,
645
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the majority of the people are going to.
646
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People of the people that please listen to me. Look
647
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.760
at Tabula's background, looking to what he said about a moon.
648
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:19.679
Look what he did when he was grabbing up all
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the metal balls. Look what he was up to.
650
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.840
Oh No, one hundred or what All I'm trying to
651
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.639
say is is that there will be an end to
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this movie, and it's going to be dramatic. It might
653
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.039
be bullshit, and it might be fake. But but that's
654
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when when I'm saying that we're going to get a
655
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picture of an alien and we're going to get a
656
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picture of fine saucer, I'm not like discounting the fact
657
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that this is a complete fucking sigh up. But what
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I'm what I'm saying is that there is going to
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be an end to this, and it's going to be and.
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You're just happy to go along with the.
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No, no, I'm not. I'm not happy to go in
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a bad way.
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I just mean, look, we might as well buckle up
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and see what.
665
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Yeah, and well, because we're going to be part of
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it whether we like it or not.
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You see that kind of pissed me off with them
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hiring heavy load.
669
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Well, do you remember what I said to you?
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I would have definitely said it an Alien Addict years
671
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ago when all this started happening, and I said, one
672
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day we will be the conspiracy theorists for not believing
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in aliens. And I can see that. I like I
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said that back like when I when I first started
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coming on an Alien Addict as like as a guest
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of Olley's, and I have never been more sure that
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I am going to be able to go back through
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alien addicts videos and pull back that the first time
679
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I said that up and feel very fucking smug.
680
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Yeah. Hm, I understand your point ly in regards of that,
681
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but I think that people want evidence now, they want
682
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proper evidence is just being blocked.
683
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.639
So that's and that's what they should have been yelling.
684
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.079
That's what they should be yelling at these Congress hearings
685
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.159
that they had all them times ago. They should have
686
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been when when people were up there saying, oh, look,
687
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.000
I was told by where's your evidence?
688
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.360
Don't give me Jack and Norri. But I claim to
689
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.079
require require exstantial evidence. I see.
690
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.280
I'm on the team where I don't think it's being
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blocked because I don't believe there's two.
692
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I don't believe the people.
693
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There aren't part of the deep state, if we're going
694
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to start start calling a deep state. So when I said,
695
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I say, I believe the idea of being blocked would
696
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be part of the narrative. So this is either for me,
697
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it's either real what's going on, and I question that
698
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whether it's real or the whole thing is an orchestrated narrative,
699
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even the even down to news Nation. Yeah, I mean
700
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I remember saying back in the day. I think news
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Nation was propped up right back years ago in order
702
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to do this to push the UFO stuff, because that
703
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.800
that news channel was fucking nothing. And now all of
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a sudden they've got the money to hire Chris Cuomo.
705
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That's fucking weird.
706
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All of a sudden.
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He was the US politician, wasn't he.
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Mm hmm so he a big paycheck?
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Yeah?
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Oh no, yeah quick Cuomo would be fucking like megabooks
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and he's like there you know him and Ross cool
712
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thought are like their big that they're like they're big anchors,
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00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.679
aren't they mm hmmm huge? And even that like the
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the idea that that's a channel that's that's supposedly trying
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to be a legit news channel. And then you've got
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00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.119
Ross Coulsar's reality Check where he sits there and talks
717
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about aliens for an hour a week.
718
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What what a weird thing?
719
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Like?
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00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.119
What what what a weird chain of events that you've
721
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this like essentially internet based because I don't know, I
722
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don't know whether it's a network television thing or not,
723
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but it's definitely getting this most of his views on
724
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YouTube that this internet based news network would would go
725
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down that Road. It's it's strange. I think they're doing
726
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it for clicks, likes and views. They saw the traction
727
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behind it, and this is with with news channels. They want,
728
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especially when it comes to the Internet, they need the
729
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views there, and.
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Thinking actually, we've got a niche on here. Let's get
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Ross cart Art. You know this, this guy who's been
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pretty much disgracing Australia for reasons, and then suddenly thinking okay,
733
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let's bring him out forward and like he's the the
734
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su spokesperson for ufology. This is it. I find it's
735
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mostly to do with clicks, likes and views.
736
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Yeah.
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See.
738
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I remember an episode of Joe Rogan where somebody was
739
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talking about the UFO stuff and he turned around and
740
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said that he believed he'd had people on his podcast
741
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that were spreading disinformation about UFOs. He didn't say Loue
742
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Alessandro kind of think.
743
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It was probably Alessandro who was talking about but.
744
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He but then they started talking about this like UFOSS
745
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being a sye up and he turned around and said
746
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he said, I believe there's a news network that has
747
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been government backed in order to push this, and he
748
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has to be talking about news nation doesn't make sense
749
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to be any other any other news network. So so
750
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that that's I think there's US government money being funneled
751
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into them to keep to keep doing this. That they've
752
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got enough like news which is like normal stuff around
753
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to make it look like a legit organization. But the
754
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:54.079
underlying mission for that place is to steer people towards UFOs.
755
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And the reason they didn't do it they did it
756
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with a small news channel like news Nation is because
757
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.360
nobody trusts Fox News or CNN or CNBC.
758
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:09.320
The mainstream and especially you got the Orange man calling every.
759
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One of them, create create the alternative.
760
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Yeah, well said, Well said yeah. But then this is
761
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where I was touching on because you said, you said something.
762
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I shout that it's a distraction man, and you said
763
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from what Yeah. Yeah, See, this is why I'd rather
764
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go on your podcast and talk about it because I.
765
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Won't get in trouble on here. So too late.
766
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But I think there, I think I think I didn't
767
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realize how much oil venisla ahead. I think I think
768
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my man's trying to build an empire of oil.
769
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Mm hmmm. See I have a problem with the idea
770
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of the oil thing because I kind of don't believe
771
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it's a scarce resource anymore. I think it's a self
772
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.159
replenishing fluid is abundant as water. Like remember the always
773
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remember we were supposed to hit Pippeak oil back in
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the nineties. We kept seeing that graph come up of
775
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all the oil barrels, and then we hit the top
776
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of the pyramid, and then the next stack of oil
777
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.960
barrels was one oil barrel less, and then one oil
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barrel less. The US, I believe, and someone might be
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able to correct me on this, but I believe the
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US is a net exporter of oil, that like, it
781
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pumps so much oil in its from its own country
782
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that it exports it. As soon as I found stuff
783
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like that, I thought, fuck, Like maybe that stuff about
784
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the Iraq war and stuff being about going in to
785
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find like archaeological stuff and.
786
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.480
Stargates, maybe that makes more sense.
787
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And then that's what I always said.
788
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See I always said that, because now I'm sure I
789
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said this to you on alien addicts. But when I
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used to work at the hotel Sorry, we used to
791
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have a lot of soldiers come there, but they were
792
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transitioning to Sivi Street, so they would stay there because
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of their course and I would talk to them. I
794
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.159
would talk to some of them on a nighttime and
795
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some of them told me some interesting stuff. So I
796
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got talking to this one and he told me check
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out check out. He gave me a date, and he
798
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.760
told me check out New York Times report and was
799
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to do with the antickities because and because he was
800
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telling me this is what he told me. He said,
801
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they were taking these antiquities and then were just taking
802
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.039
them home and throwing them on the roadside. And this
803
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.519
New York Times report was about the Iraq antiquities just
804
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being found on the roadside. So it's just a back
805
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:58.760
up what he was saying.
806
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See, I was I was taught by somebody that was
807
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over there servant as well, that the they went there
808
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thinking they were going to fight the al Kaeder or
809
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the Taliban, whatever whatever name we've given them at that time,
810
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and he found himself garden museums while people went in
811
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to look into the museums. It also makes me like
812
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there's something about it that screams Nazi Germany to me.
813
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And I don't mean the I don't I don't mean
814
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like the ideology, but the way that when the yeah,
815
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but when the Allies were going to win the war,
816
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the Nazis, they but they started blowing up their own ships,
817
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.199
so the Allies didn't get it. And exactly the same
818
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thing was going on in Iraq, wasn't it. You had
819
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you had Iraqis going in and destroying their own history
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before it was seized by the US. That that seemed
821
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.559
that seems to drive really well.
822
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And you see this conversation here, you may everyone, I
823
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was telling you that I was learning about an ancient
824
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civilization called Mesopotonia. H yeah, that's Iraq now, yeah, yeah,
825
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so you understand what they were destroying is when I'm
826
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trying to learn that they had.
827
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The beginning's the history basically beginning of human civilization, yeah.
828
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Or a a civilization maybe the evidence of other civilizations,
829
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which was just the real the real thing.
830
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Well, there is evidence of other civilizations and also the
831
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civilizations that the Mesopotanians did effect because the Mesopotanians were traders.
832
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See, I often wonder because I know, like the ever
833
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since the sort of tartaria thing popped up, which sometimes
834
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I think might be a sigh up as well, because that, yeah,
835
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because it's just exploded.
836
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Didn't it?
837
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What is it?
838
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The idea Tartaria is like the the idea that there
839
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was a Tartarian empire, which was a global, technologically advanced civilization.
840
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The you know, it gets into the mud flood that
841
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went and buried it. The it's tied into the World Fairs,
842
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which I do think there's some weird ship with the
843
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World Fairs. Like you look at these what looked like
844
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Roman like empireistic like buildings that we're told were erected
845
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in a year temporarily out of balsa wood and like
846
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painted with limewash, and it's it's like the I think
847
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the Chicago one is one of the craziest ones. Like
848
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.920
look at look up the picture. Yeah, look at pictures
849
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of the Chicago Worlds Fair. It's it's insane. But I
850
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.440
often wonder whether if there is if if there's been
851
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.679
a cataclysm, but not like hundreds of thousands years years ago,
852
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maybe only hundreds of years ago that we've rescued ourselves
853
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.079
out of and got back to this place. If you
854
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.840
were the power structure that was in charge of things, now,
855
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that would be the secret you had to keep from people,
856
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.079
because imagine if people found out that all their hard
857
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.920
work they do all of the time and effort they
858
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.639
put into creating things and like building a future for
859
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.039
their children and thinking about their grandchildren. But it turns
860
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out that there is a expiry date on civilization. No
861
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.719
matter what we do, there is a clock on the
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earth that resets itself every few hundred years, and every
863
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.119
few hundred years we are thrown back, maybe not back
864
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.440
into the Stone Age, but back into the sort of
865
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.519
cowboy era, where well, now we're doing things with horses
866
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.280
and carts everywhere. Now we're going to try and work
867
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.320
out how to get electricity back online.
868
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.599
And then we.
869
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.280
Slowly spend the next few hundred years getting ourselves back
870
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.719
up to a situation like we're in now, of like
871
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.840
relative abundance, and then we get thrown right back to
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00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.679
the prospecting times again.
873
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.280
It's quite interesting. So we're kind of dealing with advanced
874
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.199
civilization that's sort of been buried from us. I mean,
875
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.599
like you're talking about the the Chicago Fair, I mean
876
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.239
the buildings they created. It's like it looks like it's
877
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:25.840
ancient buildings, isn't it. You know?
878
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:27.800
Have you have you ever seen any of this.
879
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:33.880
Hidden It's no that that's the first time I ever
880
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:34.639
heard of this.
881
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.679
One Nick, bring some pictures. Bring some pictures Chicago fair
882
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:39.679
up to show hidden.
883
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.000
Because it's Chicago.
884
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:46.320
It's it's incredible, mate, Like it's it's the wildest conspiracy
885
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.920
theory you've never heard of, I swear, and I really
886
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:51.760
think there's something too.
887
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.360
I don't believe these.
888
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.519
Like incredible structures were built.
889
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.400
In a year for.
890
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Like a technology expo. It doesn't make sense.
891
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Can you do?
892
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.880
Can you do polls in the on YouTube?
893
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.480
In the chat? What do you mean a pole? You know?
894
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.880
To get this to get the audience involved in something
895
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I'd like to see. I'd like to see a poll
896
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from the chat to see how many people in the
897
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.719
chat we're just asking one and two. Yeah, that's a
898
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that's a good idea. Give us a like a thumbs
899
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.079
up if you believe that we have been a technologically
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advanced civilization in recent history that's been reset like within
901
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hundreds of years, and give me a thumbs down if
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you think I'm talking bullshit.
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I can't give your thumbs down, but I can't give
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your thumbs up neither.
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We only deal in ones and two. See a hidden.
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I feel like that South Park episode turned into.
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A monkey silly do said? You're talking bullshit. I mean
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00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.000
he said, I'm talking bullshit. He didn't even understand how
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00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.840
to answer the fucking pole properly. Give me your thumbs down.
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00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:29.719
Yeah, yeah, but these these buildings are like it looks
911
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:33.000
like ancient Rome or something like that. Yeah, it's incredible
912
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:33.639
the fact.
913
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:39.159
You can't see I didn't do anything spectacular or just
914
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:39.719
look great.
915
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:40.480
Yeah.
916
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.519
They were fully powered like there were there was electricity
917
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.719
all through them, like it's it's insane when you look
918
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:50.239
into it, you know.
919
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:51.480
You know what Tesla was there?
920
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:52.159
Yeah?
921
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.360
Yeah, and Edison.
922
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:55.400
Yeah, I think it was.
923
00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:00.920
It wasn't that where tes edis and did it didn't
924
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.480
didn't it wasn't it. Didn't they Tesla kill the elephant
925
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.039
or something like that.
926
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.800
No, that was was it the other way around?
927
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:08.639
Yeah?
928
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.039
Edison Edison did it on purpose to say that Tesla's
929
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:19.840
electricity was a c alternate current. His azarm design was
930
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.960
was going to kill everything, when it was when he
931
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.320
was actually doing it on purpose, Yeah, Edison, Edison killed
932
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.519
a lot of animals, man, just to discredit, just to
933
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:33.559
discredit Tesla, I.
934
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.679
Fucking sweart Edison killed the elephant. Elephant is such a
935
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:37.480
good band name.
936
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.079
I can't find a video, but I'm gonna bring up
937
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.280
some photographs right here of what it used to look like.
938
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.039
And to say that this was built out of boltsal
939
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.079
word in a year, just in a year, is ludicrous,
940
00:52:58.599 --> 00:52:59.800
absolutely ludicrous.
941
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:03.159
So look it's.
942
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:08.000
But yeah, it goes to show that back in the
943
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.599
nineteen twenties and thirties they had such high advance technology. Yeah,
944
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:21.440
that's clearly that was hidden. Absolutely. Okay, two seconds, guys,
945
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:28.679
let me just sort this out. Yeah, it's crazy.
946
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:31.199
Up.
947
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:33.400
See, I don't think a lot of them are agreeing
948
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:33.800
with this.
949
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:43.440
One because yeah, okay, cool.
950
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.800
I'll put that for another one unless we get we'll
951
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.280
finish this one and then we'll we'll jump to the
952
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.280
questions because there's two two so far. I think there's
953
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:54.639
been more.
954
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.280
But have you seen the one from Monkey have you?
955
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:04.599
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, just started that's but yeah, because I'd
956
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.440
just rather rather just say rather than DIAMONDO or another
957
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.480
one and then come back to the World Trade. You
958
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:11.719
know what was really cool as.
959
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.719
Well, not really cool, but the serial killer A. J. H.
960
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.239
Holds was operating around then as well.
961
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.800
Some of the guests that went to the World's Fair
962
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:26.440
fell into his little labyrinth of death. Name for her
963
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.400
abandon Labyrinth of Death.
964
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:35.679
This s e f N network Tartaria is a decentralized theory,
965
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.920
Like can you expand on that and let me let
966
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.119
me know what you mean? So this is Chicago and
967
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:46.320
this was, Like I said, this was what, I'm going
968
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.360
to google it to make sure I get the fucking
969
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:49.360
dates right?
970
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.519
What? What? What? What are we? What are we saying?
971
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:56.280
Looks insane? That looks like that doesn't even look real?
972
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.199
That does? That? Looks like a artist picture.
973
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:00.320
It's real.
974
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.920
It's a real focus. That's nice.
975
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.719
So this is eighteen ninety three.
976
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.440
Yeah, it looks a bit like Ernie, don't it.
977
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:10.440
Okay?
978
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.119
And that's an art decade style.
979
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.920
Yeah, yeah, but check us out. All of this was
980
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:24.000
made out of balsa wood, which they destroyed in two years.
981
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:29.599
So this was built in two years, okay supposedly, And
982
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:31.760
it's made out of balsa wood and.
983
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.840
Quite impossible if you've got different crews working.
984
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.960
On it in what what year? Nick?
985
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:43.039
What was? What was? Actually? What what are we talking about?
986
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.719
That was because the bridge obviously wouldn't be built out
987
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:46.480
of balsa wood.
988
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.559
No, no, just imagine, just imagine back in the days
989
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:58.519
when they filmed on filmed Moses. They had to build
990
00:55:58.519 --> 00:55:59.039
the sets.
991
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.920
No, but these the all these buildings had interiors like millions.
992
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.280
Millions of people went to these, millions of people traveled
993
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:11.039
to them, and there was World's Fairs all over America.
994
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.320
So you're saying the building was made out of bolson
995
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:19.639
would Yeah.
996
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.280
And and I can't remember how wrong the World's fair
997
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.760
run for run for but they were. I think it
998
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.519
was like a year they ran for twelve pints and
999
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.159
then they destroyed them. Everything was destroyed.
1000
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:34.360
We see.
1001
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.320
I I just would it could be a fire.
1002
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:39.920
I believe. I don't believe there would.
1003
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.360
I believe it was buildings from the from the old world,
1004
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.360
and this was the history reset they would be. They
1005
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.360
were being destroyed so we wouldn't know about them in
1006
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:49.880
the future.
1007
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:57.039
Mm hmm. Okay, well, these massive fancy buildings that I
1008
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.599
just I mean, I understand what Moody saying. Yes, we
1009
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:03.800
could have built these back in the day, but I
1010
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.440
don't think you could have done too in two years.
1011
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:07.920
Mm hmmm.
1012
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.320
Because that's the thing. If it takes let's say, let's
1013
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.320
so this is this is made out of like bullshit. Apparently,
1014
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.880
I don't believe if you started making that out of
1015
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.320
temporary materials, and it took two years to do by
1016
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.920
the time you got to the point. So so if
1017
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.199
it takes two years to build them and then a
1018
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:31.800
year to display them, I don't believe that temporary materials
1019
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.360
would have lasted that long, especially not giving the amount
1020
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:35.360
of water that was around.
1021
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:37.519
Mm hmm.
1022
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:46.880
Makes makes no sense to me. Imagine, like we're we're
1023
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.440
where I am, just down the road from me, where
1024
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.079
we're building a new hotel. It's going to take three
1025
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.800
years to build that hotel, that single building with modern
1026
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.960
building techniques. It's going to be a square concrete pillar
1027
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.239
with a few rooms inside of it.
1028
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.440
It's taken three years to build it. This is a
1029
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.400
better photographs. This is on YouTube. It's a combination here, Okay,
1030
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:17.360
so check this out. It's like ancient room, just wild.
1031
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:18.199
Mm hmm.
1032
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.760
It's vast as well when you see the people, it's vast.
1033
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.599
It's huge, it's massive, and this was created out of
1034
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:26.199
bolts of wood.
1035
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:27.039
Guys.
1036
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.079
Yeah, right, the greatest conspiracy.
1037
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.559
I want more. I want to see more pictures of
1038
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:36.599
the buildings. Man.
1039
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.480
Yeah, it's coming mate.
1040
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.280
This is a combination because somehow, somehow, like the sky
1041
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:42.519
and all that don't look right.
1042
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.360
Well, that's that's what they refer to them as vanilla
1043
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.960
sky They refer to them as vanilla skies.
1044
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:56.000
And like the pillar, now, is that bolts of wood?
1045
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.880
Supposed supposedly it's all made out of temporary.
1046
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.159
Material, even the fountains.
1047
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.440
Yeah, this is the thing. This is I just I
1048
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.840
simply don't believe it. I believe these were.
1049
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.800
This was the nineteen twenties. So there's nobody that's when
1050
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:15.239
was this nineteen forties.
1051
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.320
They're going to be in his thirties, they's.
1052
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.119
Going to be nobody alive that you could possibly ask
1053
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:27.719
to say, you know that would have been there. See,
1054
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:32.800
I understand I'm getting a bit of what you're saying. Yeah,
1055
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.440
because that that looks a bit too good.
1056
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.960
Yeah, I've never seen some of these photographs.
1057
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.760
This really looks a bit too good to be would
1058
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.519
also would I.
1059
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.760
Mean, check that out. That's a real photograph right there.
1060
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.280
But also you've got to think you're dealing with high
1061
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.639
advanced technology here. You know, there was no power plants nearby,
1062
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.599
there was no underground structures in terms of well this
1063
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.559
is according to the conspiracy here. You know the fact
1064
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.400
that it was using some sort of free energy to
1065
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.039
actually power the waterfalls, the lighting, and this is one
1066
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.280
of the reasons why they actually destroyed it because it
1067
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.760
was so high at advance technology is like, oh, we
1068
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.760
don't want to get our for instance, the enemies to
1069
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.880
I mean, look at that for Christ's sake or destroyed
1070
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.000
two years.
1071
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.400
Do you know what remind me? Joe reminds me of
1072
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.360
in a really kind of depressing way. It kind of
1073
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:30.719
reminds me oft if you ever been to Epcot and
1074
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.440
they've got they've got the big Lake. They've got the
1075
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.039
big Lake in the middle of Epcot and you go
1076
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.199
around the world, so it's like that every few meters,
1077
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.360
it's like a different country with different drinks and different
1078
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:40.360
foods that you walk around.
1079
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:41.840
It's good fun.
1080
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.599
But when when I found out about this, it almost
1081
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.639
is like kind of a mockery of it.
1082
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.320
Yeah, else es.
1083
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:55.639
Beautiful place.
1084
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:01.360
Mm hmm, what a spectacular seed back in the nineteen thirties.
1085
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.599
Yeah exactly. It makes you think why do they destroy it?
1086
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:06.840
I was just going to skip ahead here, but yeah,
1087
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.400
I would agree with you, Lee. This is one of
1088
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.840
the most grandest conspiracies and it was packed were full
1089
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.360
of people. Yeah, full of people, and that's the thing.
1090
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:17.440
And you can ask one of them there.
1091
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.760
But the thing is there as well, like when you
1092
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:24.480
think back then, like the level of transport we had
1093
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.760
and stuff like that, how do you even ship that
1094
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:28.960
many people in and out?
1095
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:29.239
Do you know?
1096
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.039
I mean like if you, if you, if you're holding
1097
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:35.159
an event like this, how do you how do you
1098
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.039
manage those that volume of people?
1099
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:46.559
Well? JH. Mills found no problem in that. Aj Hulbes sorry, man,
1100
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:51.159
I couldn't resist. You had the door open for me.
1101
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.920
Well yeah, check aj huns If you haven't heard of him,
1102
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.239
check him out, man, he was knocking around.
1103
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.119
If in one of them pitches, you might see the hotel.
1104
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:08.480
Yeah, with all the trap doors and everything. But there
1105
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.920
we go. That is the Chicago Fair. Oh hold on,
1106
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:15.280
it's from eighteen ninety three. I thought it was the
1107
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:21.559
eighteen hundreds. Yeah, So there we go, beautiful place destroyed.
1108
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.119
God knows why? Well him, you know why? Advanced technology?
1109
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:27.480
So you see that, as.
1110
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.960
S s e FN Network said, their point is they
1111
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:37.760
were they weren't built, but discovered as remnants of tartaria.
1112
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.400
You see, I'm not really one for this whole like.
1113
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.480
Analyzing language and stuff like that.
1114
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.360
Maybe maybe because I'm not smart enough, maybe because I
1115
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.800
think I think people reach a lot, but I do.
1116
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.639
I do think it's interesting that we're we refer to
1117
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:03.639
like cities being founded found, not construct a bit like the.
1118
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:09.199
Yeah, it's like Egypt like apparently that was just adopted
1119
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.880
by previous ancestors that were there and they just made
1120
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.679
it their own basically, So it's basically what we're going through.
1121
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.280
The Graham Hank Graham Hancock theory that the fact that
1122
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.159
ancient Egypt is a lot older than what we think
1123
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:22.519
it is.
1124
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:26.159
I would, and I'm sure he wouldn't talk about it
1125
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:29.480
like publicly because of the you know, he gets enough
1126
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.800
enough problems with his theories as it is. I would
1127
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.039
love to know what Graham Hancock thinks about the Tartaria thing.
1128
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.639
Mm hmmm, because we're going back quite far back it's
1129
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.960
unknown territory. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
1130
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.880
Because he must have an opinion on it, even if
1131
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:51.960
he hasn't made it public.
1132
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.440
He must have an opinion. Oh. I was supposed to
1133
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.719
see Graham before before he went into a surgery, so
1134
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.039
I think I'm scheduled to pop around his area at
1135
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.519
some point. I knock on the door, be like, come on,
1136
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:10.639
come on to the show and get your thoughts on
1137
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.480
what's going on. You know, incredible. I'd love to speak
1138
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:19.239
to the man science evidence for him. Graham would call poppycock.
1139
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:21.679
H not to show that, mate, you know, it's very
1140
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.960
open minded. I think.
1141
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.280
I think the idea that any anybody like Graham Hancock
1142
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:31.320
would call anything instant bullshit I think is I think
1143
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:31.960
it's a stretch.
1144
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:34.519
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
1145
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.400
Yeah.
1146
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.000
So what are the other conspiracies we're dealing with here?
1147
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.320
As we are talking about a vulture of wells?
1148
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:45.559
A couple a couple of questions we could jump to
1149
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:50.000
Y So we got one from black Dot.
1150
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.480
Is he still here? I'm coming to you, man, I'm
1151
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:53.679
coming to you. Don't worry.
1152
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:59.679
Do you think there are several species of space aliens
1153
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:05.679
from other space, from outer space visiting our tall white
1154
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.639
small grays, reptilians, et cetera.
1155
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.079
Something has to be flying those.
1156
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:18.800
Sources, Johnny to go first before you, Before you guys,
1157
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.079
definitely disagree with what I'm going to say. You're going
1158
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.480
to talk about demons, I am, I don't like I
1159
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:27.920
don't know whether it's biblical demons or our I don't
1160
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:28.519
know whether that.
1161
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:29.960
I don't know whether I believe in that.
1162
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:36.400
I believe that we have had a rich and historied
1163
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:44.360
understanding of the paranormal, and I think UFOs and aliens
1164
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:50.960
are modern explanations for a force.
1165
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.639
That has interacted with us for a long time.
1166
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.480
I think I think there is far more, far more
1167
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:02.800
chance of that being a more mystical type of interaction
1168
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.119
with something than it is a technological species from millions
1169
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:08.760
of miles away.
1170
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.480
Yeah, there you go first, you want to go.
1171
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.079
Well, we will talk about this yesterday. I think we're
1172
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:22.960
going back and forth. The fact that for me really
1173
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.239
look into the past and really switching with the books
1174
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.760
and magazines behind me and try to grasp the say
1175
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.880
pop culture or history of euthology, and what I was
1176
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:39.599
saying with you review Lee yesterday that the fact that
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01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.599
if you look at Aztech Roswell, we are dealing with
1178
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.000
a crashed saucer. And why would for instance, it be
1179
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.199
going with the if aliens are demons, why would they
1180
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:52.360
need a flying craft to come here when we are
1181
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.559
dealing with inter dimensionalbance when apparently they're already here. This
1182
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.800
is it, and I think this is where it parallels
1183
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:04.559
between the paranormal and the actratrestral explanation, and I think
1184
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.840
that the conversation has changed, especially in the past five years,
1185
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:14.360
in regards of the phenomena itself. But but the thing is,
1186
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:15.840
you know, I don't understand why there would be a
1187
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:19.599
demon flying in a flying saucer. This is it. This
1188
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:21.960
is one thing, and you've got to think about the adductions.
1189
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.559
You've got to think about like previous cases for our history,
1190
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:26.280
which I think is quite important to really look at.
1191
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.599
So it's see, I think I think abductions fit far
1192
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.719
better into like a demonic possession, if not torment, than
1193
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:41.920
a well why they why the fucking wisdoms away? If
1194
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.960
they're like, come in thousands of miles just to come
1195
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:50.840
and fucking right steal some fucking gears seems stretch.
1196
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.519
Yeah, this is it. I think I think there's more
1197
01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:58.440
of a conversation to be held with this, with this
1198
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.559
topic because no one's got the answers.
1199
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.119
This is absolutely not.
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01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:04.119
For it.
1201
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:08.519
I think I think it's a little from all the above.
1202
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:14.679
But as to call aliens demons, I'm from my two
1203
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.960
cents in because again this is going back to me
1204
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:23.560
trying to figure out some shit about Mesopotamia. Now, the
1205
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.399
one thing that I did say to Nick was I
1206
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:29.800
was looking into religion, their religion and how it influenced
1207
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:34.960
our religion, so in turn, it would influence our beliefs
1208
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:43.399
on demons. Now, Mesopotamia, their stories, their what do you
1209
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:47.520
call it mythology because I have to call it this now,
1210
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.800
is that three beings came from an other space and
1211
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.159
these are who they worship. One of them I can't
1212
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.479
remember the other two's name, but one of them was Inky.
1213
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:01.520
Yeah.
1214
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.600
So when you look on how things are being practice,
1215
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.039
I think that religion may have stemmed. And I'm going
1216
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:13.920
to offend some people, but religion may have stemmed from
1217
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.680
these Mesopotamian teachings. Now I've just started, and I'm going
1218
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.800
to delve deeper, but I've just started, and if you
1219
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:22.640
look at it, it makes a lot of sense because
1220
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:27.039
they focus wholly like the Trinity. Now, don't forget the
1221
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:32.600
Mesopotamians say that three of these beings came from space.
1222
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.760
The story of their story of creation is very similar
1223
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:46.760
to the Adaem and Eves story. So I kind of
1224
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.039
think that it's the other way around that what we
1225
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:55.199
have been calling demons may have been aliens, But it
1226
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:03.239
doesn't say that they ain't demons in this world.
1227
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:02.960
Like what Nick's saying. Nick, Nick, hit the nail on
1228
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:03.319
the head.
1229
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:05.840
The demons, where the fun Do they need a spaceship,
1230
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:10.039
where they need a saucer? It makes no sense when
1231
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:12.680
they can possess a body, when they can do anything.
1232
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:20.960
I know, I see no reason why an interdimensional like malevolent.
1233
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:23.279
Creature wouldn't also use technology.
1234
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:26.039
Well to what game? Why?
1235
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.880
As I said to like Nick, yes yesterday, I got
1236
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.079
to say exactly the same thing.
1237
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.079
Do you believe in Ouiji boards?
1238
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.720
Do you believes can speak spirits?
1239
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.920
It's it's I believe, I believe it can, but I
1240
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.960
also believe it can also talk to live in That's okay.
1241
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.159
But so by saying that you believe that a Wigi
1242
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:53.720
board can speak to spirits, you're saying you believe that
1243
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.239
we can contact spirits with technology.
1244
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:04.199
Because no, no, no, no, Because the Wigi board is
1245
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.039
the focus. It's like if you tell somebody to focus
1246
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.680
your thoughts and your energy on a dot, you will
1247
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:14.159
have the same effect. So the Ouiji board ain't a
1248
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:17.479
piece of technology, it's kind of a tool. The thing
1249
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.199
that's being used is you, your focus.
1250
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.920
I see. I still think that the Wigi board itself
1251
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:29.319
is part of it, that it's part of it is
1252
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:30.479
all right.
1253
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.760
People people like Crawley didn't need a wigi board.
1254
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.640
No, see, we're going to get into Crawley. But yeah, no,
1255
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:42.359
you're right, Yeah, absolutely, I'm not saying that there isn't
1256
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.359
other ways using like chance, sex, magic, that type of
1257
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.640
thing to get in touch with these things.
1258
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:51.640
But all that is is focusing your energy. And the
1259
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.920
Wigi board allows you to do that. Again, like I said,
1260
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.000
if you had that thought, like if you thought, I
1261
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.600
don't know, if you thought you could you could contact
1262
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.119
I'll be straight. If you thought if I said, look,
1263
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.520
you see this head here, focus and I need you
1264
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.840
to focus on it and will and I gave you
1265
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.079
a name, and I just said, keep saying this name,
1266
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:15.760
will it.
1267
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.159
It will have the same effect as Luigi board. You
1268
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:22.439
will say, oh, I feel the presence. Can you do something?
1269
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.159
It's the it's literally the focus of energy of your thoughts,
1270
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:27.880
your energy.
1271
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.800
See s c FN network also has a really good
1272
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:35.399
point here because he said, well, ritual is is a
1273
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.359
type of technology where.
1274
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.920
Second to last comment.
1275
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.039
I think that this is that.
1276
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:49.319
One Nope, one not one above it.
1277
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:57.600
Oh, I see it now, Sorry I would I don't know.
1278
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.319
I don't know. I can't to your technology because I
1279
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:08.520
think ritual is kind of it's ancient, remember I think,
1280
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:12.560
I mean it's still it's still ancient, isn't it.
1281
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:13.920
The wheels?
1282
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:17.880
The wheel is ancient, but it's still technology. Creating fire
1283
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:19.560
as a technology.
1284
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.239
I suppose if you put it that way, but I
1285
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.199
don't see it that way.
1286
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.439
But this is what all I was saying is, I
1287
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:32.439
don't see any reason why I'm malevolent, demonic force wouldn't
1288
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.800
use technology as well we used we use technology.
1289
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:36.920
I don't. I don't see why I wouldn't. I mean
1290
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:38.119
even when when we look.
1291
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.600
At stuff like certain fuck knows what's going on there,
1292
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:44.199
and the idea of building portals where I think.
1293
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:48.640
I get that one. I get that one. But I
1294
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.039
also thought, well, they're doing that in a way.
1295
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:58.319
That they're doing If this is what they're doing, I
1296
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.000
gotta I gotta bring that back. If this is what
1297
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.199
they're doing, trying to tear up in the fabric to
1298
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.880
go into other dimensions, that is not what Crawley did
1299
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.880
again to using the magic. I think they were just
1300
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.000
trying to do it without using the magic trying to
1301
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:15.119
find the back door in.
1302
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:21.199
Or it's the more evolved version of what Crowley was doing.
1303
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:22.680
It's the more evil.
1304
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.000
No, just evolved, it's just evolved.
1305
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:32.880
Possibly, Yeah, yeah, because you imagine, imagine. I guess, I
1306
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.159
guess if they figured, look, if we can do this
1307
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.479
without killing all the you know, sorry, I shouldn't have
1308
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.439
said that, but without all the sacrifices.
1309
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.560
Maybe maybe maybe they still do the sacrifices.
1310
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.560
Maybe remember remember that, Remember that mock ceremony they had yesterday.
1311
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:54.760
Yeah, crazy mm hmm, even though even even the reason
1312
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:57.479
for it all, but they were just having a laugh. Okay,
1313
01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:58.279
thanks for that.
1314
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:00.840
It's good. It's good to know that people that.
1315
01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:04.760
People that have the power to like create a mini
1316
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.039
black hole that could suck the entire planet in it.
1317
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.079
It's good to it's good to another sense of humor.
1318
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:17.199
They did say that, didn't They didn't destroy the world.
1319
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:22.439
That's what Hawgan's warned them about. You shouldn't mess with
1320
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.720
that stuff. You remember, you remember when we remember on
1321
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.199
was it the last show we did? Not that the
1322
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.760
last show the show before when we looked at the
1323
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:34.800
King Black the Red Mercury and like, oh yeah, and
1324
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.479
he basically and then basically he said, just because you
1325
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:39.079
can do it doesn't.
1326
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:39.439
Mean you should.
1327
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.840
You should, yes, And I think.
1328
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.000
That's that's what Hawkins was saying as well.
1329
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.039
What what's the red mercury thing? Because I've heard this before.
1330
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.800
It's a load of ballots, really, but we do think
1331
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.800
it's mercury. We do think it's just literally mercury, because
1332
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:01.439
there's a satellite where they burnt the mercury and it
1333
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.560
just it's an endless power source. But the thing is
1334
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:08.920
it gives us that much radiation that you can't use it.
1335
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.399
You can't use it, right. So so basically where the
1336
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.760
idea of red mercury came prom Lee is that we
1337
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:18.039
were talking about the Nazi bell, but you can actually
1338
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.760
trace that back to the Mamada. This was like this
1339
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:29.079
pyramid shaped craft from India. So so the legend behind
1340
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:32.399
that that there was this kind of who was it
1341
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:36.560
was it a prince king some game with some some
1342
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.439
kings who was talking about this craft in India basically
1343
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:46.239
in India that but it used mercury to power this craft.
1344
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:52.479
Mercury so so so he was talking about so basically
1345
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:55.000
the quote was basically just because you can use it,
1346
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:59.600
It doesn't mean that you should. But then NASA created
1347
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.840
a sat light in the sixties that used mercury, but
1348
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.359
it gave off such a massive amounts of radiation and
1349
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.600
actually banned it because it would basically pollute the earth.
1350
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:11.840
And that links into the Nazi bell about the fact
1351
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:15.079
that this device was using some sort of red mercury
1352
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:20.800
or mercury based substance to actually power this machine. And
1353
01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:22.840
that's where it kind of came from.
1354
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:29.119
Really, you were going back way back into Indian history.
1355
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.600
But this guy, this this king, what's so fascinating. This
1356
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:34.760
is why we've got to look more into this dude.
1357
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.319
What's so fascinating. And he'd done loads of designs.
1358
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:43.880
He was like the Leonardo da Vinci of India, and
1359
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.720
it claimed that he had stuff that would fly in
1360
01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:48.000
the here.
1361
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:53.680
Yeah, this is how far back we're going. We're going back, well,
1362
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:56.880
two thousand years, I think a long time.
1363
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:01.319
Easy, easy, few thousand years easy, Yeah.
1364
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.600
Two thousand years. Yeah, we're actually going to do an
1365
01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:04.920
episode on it, so well, yeah, stay tuned for that one.
1366
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:08.439
But yeah, I mean, if you're going back to what
1367
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:14.359
Lamb hid him words Lamb a interdimensional being.
1368
01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:19.359
Or demon interdimensional being. That's what Alistair Crawley. That's what
1369
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:23.399
Alistair Crawley called him. I'm quitting well, Alex. He never
1370
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.920
said he was a demon, never said he was an alien.
1371
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:32.079
He called him an interdimensional being. He actually this character
1372
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.520
appeared to him, I believe in Egypt was the first time,
1373
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:37.800
and that's when he gave him the law.
1374
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:45.239
I think, see, I think I need to preface myself
1375
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.720
slightly more when I say the when I say the
1376
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:50.960
word demon, because in the same way as I think
1377
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:56.800
UFOs and aliens are our way of describing this like
1378
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:01.079
these encounters now in a modern lens, I think like
1379
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.920
angels and demons was the way we were doing it
1380
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.960
in like a historic lands as well. I just think
1381
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.640
there's more, there's more of a history of this stuff
1382
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:18.680
being paranormal than technological. I think that's the better way
1383
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:23.439
of me saying it. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
1384
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.880
No, I'm sorry. I'm just laughing that on Moody.
1385
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:36.079
Before Herod Junkie, shit, man, this was this is all
1386
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.399
this stuff was before then.
1387
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.560
But like London was such a wild place, man, no
1388
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.680
conspiracy they you know they had. Did you notice league
1389
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.039
back in the olden times when Crawley was around. Yeah,
1390
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.560
but even before that they had opium dens. There was
1391
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:59.279
a famous writer and I don't read many books, but
1392
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.439
I read his because it was very interesting. It was
1393
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.800
just about him and his trip in London, and he was.
1394
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.319
Talking about he would go into a house and I
1395
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:12.439
think I think this was like nineteen thirties nineteen forties London,
1396
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.079
and he'd go into a house and the living room
1397
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:21.680
is just bare cushions with pipes and they'd stay there.
1398
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.119
For hours just smoking the opium. Crazy.
1399
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.039
But he was saying, like, so and so was there,
1400
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.439
and these are people you know, or you would earn off.
1401
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:36.000
And he's thinking, whoa, these guys were smoking opium. Yeah,
1402
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.279
but it was it was it was all the rage
1403
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:44.640
back then. Well anyway, I don't know, I don't know.
1404
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:50.199
It makes you wonder, doesn't it, Like the sometimes when
1405
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:52.720
it comes to drugs, it makes you won't know why
1406
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:56.920
certain things were actually banned and alcohol was left. Like
1407
01:20:57.039 --> 01:21:00.640
I've I've often had an air because I I'm not
1408
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:01.800
I used to be. I used to be a big
1409
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:05.600
drinking not a big drinker anymore. I wouldn't call myself teetotal,
1410
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.720
but if I drink twice a month, it would be
1411
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:14.159
a lot like you like me, maybe once every two months,
1412
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:19.760
and maybe maybe I'll drink and it's it's dawned on
1413
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:25.159
me since I stopped drinking that alcohol is a control
1414
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:28.560
mechanism that has been left in society to steal the.
1415
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.279
To steal the effective years off young men.
1416
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:35.840
When you when you think back, when you think back
1417
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:38.399
to your past and you're like teens and twenties, when
1418
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.159
you when when you when you had like a long
1419
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:46.039
future ahead of you and a the energy to actually
1420
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.640
do some ship, what were you doing? You get fucked up,
1421
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:50.039
won't you?
1422
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:53.279
Yeah? Yeah, it seems to be the culture at the time,
1423
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:54.920
isn't it. You know, it's been like it's a cool
1424
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:57.159
thing to do to go out and get wasted, which
1425
01:21:57.159 --> 01:21:58.760
is I can remember back in the day when when
1426
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.119
I was a teenager. Yeah, I mean you forget like,
1427
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.239
for instance, like hemp. I know, hemp is like the
1428
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:07.039
male version of cannabis, but you know, Henry Ford made
1429
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:09.920
a car out of hemp and it was stronger than
1430
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:13.760
flipping steel. He actually powered the thing by using hemp.
1431
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.880
And do you think why is this band?
1432
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:23.199
It wasn't hemp basically taken down by the American paper industry, because.
1433
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.319
That's the that's that's the theory.
1434
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:28.640
Yeah, all this money had been put into the paper companies.
1435
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.279
We can't they have been invested in mills, didn't they.
1436
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.960
They bought a shipload of new meals and overordered them,
1437
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.079
then all of a sudden they yeah, So that is
1438
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:43.319
the conspiracy. But you know, like, you know, like I
1439
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.880
want to big up I want to big up the
1440
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:48.319
hemp plant because if you look into the American history
1441
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:56.079
in the American Civil War without Hemp, you wouldn't wonder
1442
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.600
mm hmm, because you know, you know, all the tents
1443
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.640
that was made out of him, all those bags that
1444
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.840
would stop the bullets, you know what they were made
1445
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:14.840
out of, Good old Hemp, good old help. But anyways,
1446
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.800
that's not a conspiracy, and we're here for conspiracies. So
1447
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:28.600
we have one more question then, so and this was
1448
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:35.000
for you, Lee, so yours, which what about the Jewish
1449
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:40.079
extremists trying to destroy the world to help bring their messiah?
1450
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:45.479
Conspiracy or not. I'm shouting out, I'm going to shout
1451
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:46.680
out not conspiracy.
1452
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:49.439
Well, I'm going to say what what what can you
1453
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:55.359
say without destroying the YouTube channel? Right I'm I'm going
1454
01:23:55.439 --> 01:24:00.119
to say the same thing that I I guess, the
1455
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.920
same thing I say on the podcast about it, which
1456
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:10.720
and genuine, genuine feels about it. I I failed to
1457
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:15.199
understand how a country the size of Israel can have
1458
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:23.119
this amount of global control over supposed global control over
1459
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:24.680
so many nations.
1460
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:32.359
Again with the files. But it's not it's not just that,
1461
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:34.960
you know, it's not just that. It's not just that.
1462
01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:40.640
There are other things in play here, So it's not
1463
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:45.680
just that, but the E files, I think that's some
1464
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:47.199
certain people buy the balls.
1465
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:50.920
See I don't. I don't think the Epstein and the
1466
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.680
and the island was a honey trap. I think that's
1467
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.640
the cover because that's what that's what that that is like.
1468
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.600
What what I've noticed is we we had YouTuber on
1469
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.159
our podcast a while ago. You might have seen him
1470
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.800
around a little bit ago, a black dude called coach Colin.
1471
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:09.319
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, good good guy.
1472
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:15.760
And he he said something that I'm sure I thought
1473
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.319
stuff like this before, but he said it's such a
1474
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.199
concise way. It's stuck in my head that he said,
1475
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.000
we we just we just look at the we look
1476
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.479
for the official story all the time. And then fail
1477
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.479
to notice that there's an official story and an official
1478
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:39.279
conspiracy theory. So if Israel are so powerful and they
1479
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.560
had they had all this dirt on people, yet the
1480
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:48.479
idea of Jeffrey Epstein being a massad agent is the
1481
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:55.000
official conspiracy theory they want. There is an element of
1482
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:57.880
the of the sye OP that wants you to believe
1483
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.039
that that's why.
1484
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.960
It's it's it's it's well, it's all there in the finals.
1485
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:07.600
There's a lot of a lot of mention of Israel.
1486
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:10.640
Well, I mean the guy was Jewish. Yeah, and it's like,
1487
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:12.000
don't get me wrong, but there was. But there was
1488
01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:13.960
a lot of mention of London. There was a lot
1489
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:17.600
of mention of the United States and different conditions. Yeah,
1490
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.960
like there's there's no doubt that Israel are one like
1491
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:27.079
a global player. But see, I've when I was reading
1492
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.640
through the documents we got and one of the things
1493
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:33.199
that really struck me with the Epstein files, and this
1494
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:34.960
is why I don't believe it was a honey trap.
1495
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:41.119
I believe the idea of it being a a extortion
1496
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:45.479
operation is a cover story for what it actually was.
1497
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:48.399
Oh yeah, I get what you're saying. Now, I get
1498
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.560
what you're saying, is this all this all leads back
1499
01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:56.680
now to opening up things for for certain entities.
1500
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.600
Yes, you said, yeah, and that's all there and you
1501
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.119
know this this is I said this to Nick when
1502
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:05.439
when then files came out.
1503
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:07.600
I said, you know what, there's a lot of people
1504
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:10.520
right now that are patting themselves on the back saying, you.
1505
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:11.479
Know what, we were right.
1506
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.279
Nobody believed us when we were saying this is what
1507
01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:18.960
they're doing, the farming, the farming infants, that I can
1508
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.720
get away with that. But you know, this was talked about.
1509
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:28.439
This was talked about back in the nineties. Yeah, when
1510
01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:32.239
when they were talking about certain people are having children
1511
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:35.800
and these doctors and they're proper doctors, but they ain't
1512
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:37.079
being recorded.
1513
01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:41.560
The like the Satanic panic. Like the Satanic panic was
1514
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:43.600
one hundred percent real, real in my eyes, and that
1515
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:47.600
was it was. That was so close to discovering what
1516
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:49.319
was going on back then, and.
1517
01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.720
You know, you know came in and shut it down.
1518
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.079
You notice the Fens came in and shut it down.
1519
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:55.840
Yeah.
1520
01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.079
For anyone out there that listens to this show that
1521
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:02.199
still thinks that the episode Epstein operation was an extortion operation,
1522
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:06.319
I want you to go no, no, I want them
1523
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.479
to go and read the emails back and forwards from people,
1524
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.600
even the boring emails, like the boring emails of people.
1525
01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:17.840
Find me an email where somebody that's talking to Jeffrey
1526
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.760
Epstein doesn't appear.
1527
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:21.319
To fucking love that dude.
1528
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:26.359
M M if if if he was extorting people, I
1529
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:29.399
was like, oh, you fucking got me, and now I've
1530
01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:32.239
got to do stuff here, there would be far more
1531
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:34.960
aggressive back and forth with people.
1532
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.760
But I do think, no, no, I do think he
1533
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:44.560
was doing that. I think I look, I I do know,
1534
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:49.520
I'm with you, But I do think that somebody sees
1535
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.800
those those the footage.
1536
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:56.520
His place, his placing on New York was wired. He
1537
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.199
had every room wired. It's placing on the island was right,
1538
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:05.439
so Zoro Ranch. I'm not too familiar with that. I
1539
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:10.520
just know they want to dig the place up right
1540
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:16.720
where the tapes. Who got them, who got them, and
1541
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:21.600
whoever's got them has got a certain beverage over people,
1542
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:25.560
because look, we talk about when they're showing the pictures
1543
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:30.359
of Mandelssohn, but ain't nobody noticed my man's walking around
1544
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.760
in a gown and there's a there's there's there's a
1545
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:38.399
girl there. Yeah, but there those pictures they show, but
1546
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:41.000
they're saying he might have done insider trading.
1547
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.880
See, that's that's the thing that I I have No,
1548
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.560
I have no doubt that like fuck Island was going on,
1549
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.159
and that was kind of that that that was one
1550
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.439
of the drawers for people. Yeah, but but I also
1551
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.880
don't believe that. So let's say, for instance, let let's
1552
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:09.319
let's do some role playing. I'm Bill Clinton and I've
1553
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.520
just gone to I've got I've just gone to Epstein Island,
1554
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.920
and it's all wonderful. I've had some fun, I've met
1555
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.960
some people, done some things I shouldn't have done. I've
1556
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.159
gone home. And then the next thing is I've got
1557
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.760
Jeffrey Epstein on the phone going, well, Bill, look at this,
1558
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:28.800
and he sends me photographs of what I was doing.
1559
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.880
And now all of a sudden, I'm a president in
1560
01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:37.920
the pocket of Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I don't believe. At
1561
01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:42.000
that point, you go, oh, this is not good. And
1562
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:45.359
then someone turns around around you and says another influential,
1563
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.560
powerful person says, I'm going to that island at the weekend.
1564
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.199
You'd be like, I know, no, you're not because I've
1565
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.840
been to the island. You need to stay away from that.
1566
01:30:56.199 --> 01:31:00.960
In the same way as in twenty twenty three, that
1567
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.760
biologist tried to get Joe Rogan to go to to
1568
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:07.239
go to the island to meet Jeffrey Epstein, and Rogan
1569
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:11.640
was like, no, I'm not fucking going there. I think
1570
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:15.560
it would have fell apart before it did. I think
1571
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:21.079
it's far more likely that this is more akin to
1572
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:28.520
a cult than a blackmail operation. Those people were going
1573
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.000
there because they wanted to go there, because they knew
1574
01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:32.000
what was going on there.
1575
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:39.199
And you know what's even more funny early is is
1576
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:41.920
Elon Musk go there.
1577
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:42.560
They kept on.
1578
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:52.239
Telling him no, no, I find that so strange, like that,
1579
01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:55.760
that's weird to me. It's weird they didn't want I
1580
01:31:55.840 --> 01:32:00.680
never Oh, yeah, no, I've I've read like a chunk
1581
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:04.600
of the emails, especially the like the important ones like that.
1582
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:07.960
Yeah, I find it really weird.
1583
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:10.760
Why wouldn't you Why Why wouldn't they have wanted Ela
1584
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.840
Musk there? That's a really good question. One of the
1585
01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:15.479
most powerful men in the world, then.
1586
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:18.399
Why why didn't they?
1587
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.720
But even back then he was why didn't they want him?
1588
01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:28.439
He's sure the wild thing is the wild thing makes
1589
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:30.640
me wonder whether he is actually a good guy.
1590
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.600
That's why they couldn't have him there, because he's almost
1591
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.600
like he's on our side. Do you not notice that
1592
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:41.840
with especially with X, he's almost like in the alternative movement,
1593
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:45.720
like he's pushed up as us, like this trustworthy figure,
1594
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:49.880
and they're probably thinking, actually, probably not a good idea
1595
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.119
to have this guy on board. I reckon possibility.
1596
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.399
Yeah, I'll just I'll just jump real quick. Yes, that
1597
01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.319
was the being that I believe that's Crawler you during
1598
01:32:59.399 --> 01:32:59.920
that picture.
1599
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.159
Yeah, that was totally from his book.
1600
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:05.399
Yeah, so that was that was Lamb.
1601
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:11.399
Yeah, yeah, good, which kind of looks like Elon Musk
1602
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:13.119
to a certain degree. And now to think about it.
1603
01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:18.840
So yeah, yeah, I don't know where I fall on
1604
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:23.199
elong like the and I think I think the thing
1605
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.880
is is we kind of we we kind of want
1606
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:30.279
somebody to be on our team, especially somebody powerful, And
1607
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:32.560
it kind of makes sense. It kind of makes sense
1608
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:37.119
if there is like a global cabal, it does make
1609
01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:39.680
sense that not everybody's on that team because that's not
1610
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:43.279
human nature, is it. It's not human nature for everybody
1611
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:45.840
to be there, Like if there's black hats. There is
1612
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:51.239
white hats. There has to be. Yeah, we hope so well, Well,
1613
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:53.680
the fact is I think the I think if there wasn't,
1614
01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:55.039
I think would already be fucked.
1615
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:57.600
I think we pretty much getting there.
1616
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.800
I think, Yeah, I don't we're far away.
1617
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:06.359
Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's crazy times for
1618
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.560
living in I have to. I mean, who do you
1619
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:11.640
trust now these days?
1620
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:18.479
This is a you know, just in Lord Jesus. I'm sorry, Dick,
1621
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:20.159
I know.
1622
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.399
I know you're fine, You're entited to your own opinions.
1623
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.640
Maybe I was just joking. I was just joking.
1624
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:29.279
Okay, fair enough for a funk then, okay, okay, Yeah,
1625
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:30.359
there'll be.
1626
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.359
There's always hope. There's always hope. Humanity is a way
1627
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:39.920
of saying we ain't gonna take this no more.
1628
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.640
I also, I genuinely like that it's funny the religious
1629
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.159
side of things, because I'm not.
1630
01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:46.319
I don't.
1631
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:48.520
I don't quite know what I am anymore. I'm definitely
1632
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:52.720
I'm definitely not an atheist question things, but but I'm
1633
01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:59.039
definitely more religious than I am even agnostic. I don't
1634
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:06.680
believe you can research conspiracy theories for that long and
1635
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:09.319
not come out of it holding some sort of religious values.
1636
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:10.960
I think sooner.
1637
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:17.560
I think sooner or later that the roads virtuality.
1638
01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:22.319
Yeah, I'm with you there, That's when my journey went.
1639
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:27.680
And then it was all mystical and magic and all
1640
01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:31.760
the ship and all roads lead to that, even NASA.
1641
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:32.600
Yeah.
1642
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:36.319
And the fact is that there's especially things like NASA.
1643
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:36.600
Yeah.
1644
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:41.600
But the fact is there is so many nods to
1645
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:47.840
there being some type of clique, cabal, whatever wherever we're
1646
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:55.039
going to call them, that hold some type of ancient well,
1647
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:57.319
we'll caught, for want of better words, we'll call it
1648
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:03.560
satanic religion. Yeah. And I just I look at that
1649
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:06.359
and I go, well, I want to be on the
1650
01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.000
other team. If that's the if that's the team thereon,
1651
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:11.920
then there has to be that has to be an
1652
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:15.680
antithesis to that, and the antithesis to that in most
1653
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:21.159
most cases, if he is to be Christianity, if he
1654
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:24.600
is to be the most hated and the most the
1655
01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:30.439
most demonized mainstream religion by those people, So I plant
1656
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:32.000
my flag closest to that.
1657
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.079
Mhm. Yeah.
1658
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:37.560
I think a good point there, unless you take it
1659
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:40.760
like a massive open mushrooms and then come back to
1660
01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:43.680
us and be like, Okay, let's stop into this.
1661
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:49.199
See I've done the other way I used to be
1662
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:55.079
very I've done more into the agnostic side. Now where
1663
01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:58.239
a lot of things that I'm seeing, like I'm one
1664
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:02.319
thing that I'm starting to realize from even the old taels.
1665
01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:05.159
This is why I want to get into the Mesopotamian
1666
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:07.439
ship and see see if I can make some sense
1667
01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:12.000
of this. But this earth, for this realm that we're in,
1668
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:21.560
ain't paradise. This belongs to the.
1669
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:23.239
You know, the Satan. This this realm belongs to Satan.
1670
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.560
And it says it clearly in the teachings. There did
1671
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.840
the one the one thing that blew my mind that
1672
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.800
set me along this way. The train of thought was,
1673
01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:36.359
I don't know if you remember the story with Jesus
1674
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:39.600
on on the mountain when Satan.
1675
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:44.800
Came to him, I was, I do yeah, And he
1676
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.640
was tempting him.
1677
01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:48.239
He was tempted him warning he made him an offer.
1678
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:51.159
He said, look, I will give you kingdoms on earth
1679
01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:57.079
if you just come with me. Now. Now, the conversation
1680
01:37:57.239 --> 01:38:00.640
in that didn't go like, you can't do that because
1681
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:04.640
you you don't have that power. This is not your realm.
1682
01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:08.800
You didn't say that. He just said, na, you understand
1683
01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:13.479
he is saying could offer from that because it's his
1684
01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:20.119
mm hm. And that that made me turn around and say,
1685
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:26.119
you know what, maybe maybe you're looking at something differently.
1686
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:30.159
That's why I let I'm going at more agnostic. But
1687
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:32.920
I want to know where these beliefs and stick stuff
1688
01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:33.760
came from.
1689
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.239
Yeah, m hm.
1690
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:40.640
Maybe sometimes that's why there's so much bad in this world,
1691
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.720
you know, because it's harder to communicate with the good one.
1692
01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:47.640
If this room belongs to.
1693
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.840
Something else, it would make sense, it would make sense
1694
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:52.640
why a lot of the bad stuff can happen. And
1695
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:56.119
you know, and it is, it's it's the it's that
1696
01:38:56.239 --> 01:39:00.239
religious paradox, isn't it like if if, if God is
1697
01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:05.560
all all or seeing, all over all, all loving, how
1698
01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.439
did the fucking taris of the terrible stuff happened? Maybe
1699
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.119
maybe maybe there's no way of interacting, Maybe there's no
1700
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:16.279
way of saving, but maybe through.
1701
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.479
Strong prayer and all that, it could. Maybe you remember
1702
01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:22.239
how I said Luigi board maybe he used that that's
1703
01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:25.239
that's I don't know, I don't know, I don't know
1704
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:27.680
nothing here, but this is the way I started to
1705
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:28.199
see things.
1706
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:32.720
And then and then what led me secondly is you
1707
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:36.479
know the story about when Lucifer was an angel, Yeah,
1708
01:39:37.359 --> 01:39:39.520
and he was cast out of out of heaven.
1709
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.920
Yeah, mm hmm, he was cast down to earth.
1710
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:47.119
Yeah.
1711
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:51.159
And then they said, well, people interpreted that he went
1712
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.680
to help, but he was cast down to earth. That's happened.
1713
01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.800
You could mingle and manipulate.
1714
01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:05.960
So it's I'm one of the things I found most interesting,
1715
01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:07.439
and this is one of the one of the things
1716
01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:09.880
that made me wake up and start thinking about it.
1717
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:13.840
And this might might be something that that Nick can
1718
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.840
jive with as well. I used I used to be
1719
01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:20.800
one of those people that if I heard people talk
1720
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.439
and start talking about religion on a podcast about something and.
1721
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:28.760
Immediately shut off. I just like this anymore.
1722
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:33.199
I'll close it stop instantly there. And then I started
1723
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:36.199
to ask myself, why am I getting that reaction?
1724
01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:37.439
Like what?
1725
01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:44.560
Why is there this wall for a lot of people
1726
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.279
that I bear in mind. I at this point, I'm
1727
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:52.640
listening to all of the conspiracy theory podcasts. I'm listening
1728
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:57.479
to ship I know isn't real, but then somebody happens
1729
01:40:57.479 --> 01:41:01.359
to mention Jesus Christ and I'm like, no, can't listen that?
1730
01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:05.880
What that what a weird fucking response for somebody that's
1731
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:09.800
just listened to like eight hours of Mark Sergeant's Flat
1732
01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:14.560
Earth Clues, but like you, I mean like the but
1733
01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:18.079
the minute somebody says something about Jesus and I'm fucking out.
1734
01:41:18.119 --> 01:41:20.600
I can't, I can't listen to that. I think it's
1735
01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:23.079
I think it's psychological. I think I think we are.
1736
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:28.600
I think we have been, especially like people that are
1737
01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:31.159
our age that lived through the nineties, which was very
1738
01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:36.119
like religion was in the nineties into two thousands, was
1739
01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:38.920
very much put in a like a non cool thing.
1740
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:41.279
Even look at like if we want to say that
1741
01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:44.119
what the media does, look at the Simpsons, look at
1742
01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:46.520
when we when we know how fucking on the ball
1743
01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:50.159
Simpson the Simpsons can be sometimes like Ned Flanders was
1744
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:52.840
made to be one of the stupidest, most pathetic characters
1745
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:53.680
in the Simpsons.
1746
01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:55.359
It was the only religious one.
1747
01:41:56.279 --> 01:42:01.319
We were made to think it was uncool. And I
1748
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:05.119
think that's why for so many people they switch off
1749
01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:09.039
so quickly, because we've had decades of of decades of
1750
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.560
being hammering. Why would you have any interest in that?
1751
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.439
I like to I like to say that maybe people
1752
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:19.039
lost faith in these people, and they say, well, this
1753
01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:22.319
is your God that you're representing, because don't forget. Also,
1754
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:27.119
in the nineties and two thousands and still going on now,
1755
01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:30.479
there have been horrid things that have came out about
1756
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:34.880
the priests and the religion that they with they hold,
1757
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:41.560
you know, not just not just the obvious ALTI boys stuff,
1758
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:46.560
but you know, the the orphanages, the babies, the bodies
1759
01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:50.479
that they just found in Ireland. Yeah, you know, so
1760
01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:55.920
would it not be that as well that people are like,
1761
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.359
you know what man, this is this is your God
1762
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:00.319
or this is.
1763
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:04.359
You get what I'm trying to say then sort of people.
1764
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:07.279
And then and then how the church handled it as well.
1765
01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:11.239
The people that got caught out, they they moved them along.
1766
01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:14.319
Don't get me wrong. I think I think the church
1767
01:43:14.359 --> 01:43:18.600
itself is one hundred percent co opted by the like
1768
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:22.520
we'll go cabal again with just a blanket. I think
1769
01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:25.920
it is one hundred percent infiltrayed one hundred.
1770
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:30.479
But the words will never be That's what I always
1771
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.279
held on. I I had my dissolution from the church
1772
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:36.319
a long time ago, but I was lucky because my
1773
01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:41.199
mother allowed me to explore. Because my mom said, faith
1774
01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:45.840
is about something where you're comfortable at so I've started
1775
01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:50.399
out as Catholic. I did my I did my Catechism,
1776
01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:57.159
and I it never sat right to me that they're
1777
01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:01.840
hiding behind the confession box because they hide behind a quote.
1778
01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:05.000
They hide behind the passage in the Bible where it
1779
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:09.920
says God will forgive you seventy times seventy. That's a
1780
01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:11.199
hell of a lot of time.
1781
01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.399
Isn't it. Yeah, So you can do a lot of
1782
01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:20.079
bad shit from Monday to the Saturday, as long as
1783
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:24.840
you make it Sunday and tell some total stranger the
1784
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.479
ship that you've done all week your gravy. It's kind
1785
01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:30.159
of like, it's kind of like, I'll tell you what
1786
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:32.279
the best the best man. The best quote I like
1787
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:33.279
was al Pacino.
1788
01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:36.520
Have you heard the story about the bicycle al Pacino
1789
01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:37.319
in the bicycle?
1790
01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:38.640
Now? All right?
1791
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:41.800
When al Pacino was younger, he prayed for like two
1792
01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:46.399
years for a bicycle and it never came. So he
1793
01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.039
decided to go and steal one and go and ask
1794
01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:50.319
God for forgiveness.
1795
01:44:52.600 --> 01:44:55.399
Oh yeah, because he's a Catholic. He was a Catholic, like,
1796
01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:56.880
got it? Got it? Well?
1797
01:44:57.039 --> 01:44:59.600
I think he still is a Catholic. But that's just
1798
01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:04.520
theocracy of it, and it didn't set well with me
1799
01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.920
because my understanding of being a good person was to
1800
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.319
try and be christ Like. So that's where it led
1801
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:13.079
me to Christians, because that's what it stands for, to
1802
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:20.640
be christ Like. And I like the Christians. But I
1803
01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:23.720
went into a place where they were talking, they were
1804
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:27.319
scaring you. I believe it was a Baptist kind of Christianity,
1805
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:29.640
and they were scaring you.
1806
01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:29.880
Man.
1807
01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:34.600
They were like, imagine hell, and they played movies. And
1808
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:37.720
I never felt right with that because I just felt
1809
01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:41.800
like I always understood that I would come to where
1810
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:44.319
I needed to be. I don't want to say God,
1811
01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:53.079
I want to say, you know the energy? You get
1812
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:58.800
what I mean? So I always knew I would. Happily enough,
1813
01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:01.640
I found it. I found the energy that I need
1814
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:04.640
where I'm comfortable with. But with that energy, I can
1815
01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:11.520
question the ideology of that energy. Do you get it now?
1816
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:14.119
I think that's the best way I can put it,
1817
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:17.840
because I do know that these stories that we have
1818
01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:21.640
been told from the Bible come from a lot older place.
1819
01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:24.640
They've just been chiseled and refined.
1820
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.319
Well absolutely, I mean there are older religions, you know.
1821
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.920
That's that's it. That's always been a sticking point for
1822
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:37.640
me is so, so what like, what of what of
1823
01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:38.920
the older religions?
1824
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:41.520
Well, this is why, this is why I'm looking into
1825
01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:47.359
Mesopotamian because they are the oldest known civilizations to keep records.
1826
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:52.000
So what was that? Because they had religion? Mm hmm,
1827
01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:55.960
So what was it? Who were they worshiping? What was
1828
01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:57.159
the ideology of that?
1829
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.079
You see this, this was something that I said last
1830
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:07.880
night to Nick on the podcast. Was the way the
1831
01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:11.800
way I look at it. You can you can you
1832
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:17.399
can google it as far as the beginning of atheism,
1833
01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:23.760
which realistically it's like you'll get like people will pop
1834
01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:25.880
up and say that it was like a five hundred
1835
01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:28.439
BC or something like that, but it fucking bullshit. It's
1836
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:33.319
it was fifteen hundreds is the first like written accounts
1837
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:39.119
of atheism. So you've got all that history before the
1838
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:44.159
fifteen hundreds, before it was even theorized that there wasn't
1839
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:48.079
there wasn't some sort of deity. I just tend to
1840
01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:52.119
hedge myself with the majority of history that there's something,
1841
01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.760
that there is something spiritually relevant out there.
1842
01:47:58.960 --> 01:47:59.399
M hmm.
1843
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:03.760
What's your technique?
1844
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:03.880
Man?
1845
01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:11.239
What I feel? I feel there is definitely an entity
1846
01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:15.199
out there I don't personally believe in a Christian God,
1847
01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:17.760
but I do believe there are some some sort of
1848
01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:21.920
powerful force that I have felt through my mushroom trips. Okay,
1849
01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:26.640
one will say, well, you're just hallucinating, Lee, You might
1850
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.079
say the same thing, but there's definitely a very powerful
1851
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:34.359
force out there, a very spiritual force. But I wouldn't
1852
01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:37.319
necessarily saying is that a God in the clouds? You know?
1853
01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.840
And that's sort of the Christian aspect of a god.
1854
01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:45.880
That's just my personal opinion on that, which I haven't
1855
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:49.680
really explored or really sort of had a felon grasp
1856
01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:52.680
because I would agree with you Lea on that aspect
1857
01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.239
of the factor. So when someone mentions like no disrespected,
1858
01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:58.600
and so mentions a BACKT Jesus Christ, I'm like, I'm gone,
1859
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:03.279
that's it, is it. I'm zoned out. But I should
1860
01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:04.479
be more open minded.
1861
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:08.199
It's an uncomfortable conversation. It's an uncomfortable conversation to have
1862
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.319
with yourself to go I have a visceral reaction to this,
1863
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:15.439
and I need to work out why I'm having it exactly.
1864
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.439
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you don't want to go there,
1865
01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:21.560
So it's like you just block it out, yeah, which
1866
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:25.319
I think is a very naive approach really so. But
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I think now where we all are going through a
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very very difficult time, you know, like well, i've been
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talking about the whole planet in this country, you know,
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the Great Awakening so to speak. I think people are
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going to be more open minded to these sort of
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ideas and thoughts. There's something probably to it, moving towards
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either spirituality or religion. I think one of the two,
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which is both the same thing, and everyone look at it. Yeah, yeah,
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so I think we should ended there. I think we've
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had a really good conversation going through different conspiracies and yeah,
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it makes people think. And hopefully this was good for you, Lee,
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to pop into the The Hidden under Belly Show.
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It's been right. I hope you'll have us back on
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again because I've really enjoyed this.
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Bring Small Hand Dollie on as well next time if
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I must.
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Yeah, I've got to bring a conspiracy wife. He's going
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to be so jealous that I've cheated on with two
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handsome men.
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Thank you very much. That's awesome going there, We're both
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handsome and there we go. But before we leave, Lee,
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where can the good people find you.
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You can find the Daily Conspiracy Podcast on all podcast platforms,
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like we're everywhere. The best way to get in touch
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with us is probably probably Instagram if you don't want
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to leave a comment on Spotify, Like, if you do
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listen to us on the podcast and you listen to
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us on Spotify, drop a comment. I read all the comments,
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every single comment every day I read and we do
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really well for comments on Spotify.
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But yeah, you can get in touch with us that way.
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You can get a.
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DM me on on X you can DM me on Instagram.
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We have a Facebook, but the Facebook is underutilized, but
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we will. We will answer dms if your DM is
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on that. But yeah, just search Daily Conspiracy Podcast.
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Were there.
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We do five shows a week. We're kind of kind
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of five shows a week.
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We do four shows a week, and then Friday we
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put all of the episodes out together in one big
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long podcast for people that have nothing better to do
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with their lives. So yeah, just just come find the
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DCP and we'll be absolutely there for you.
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Fantastic. I've just put the link in description right there
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for you to click on to the Spotify can't wait
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and find the Daily Conspiracy Podcast and you go three
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times a week, is it?
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Well, well, we put we put five, We put four
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shows up a week. We put for for anyone, anyone
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that's coming into the show new technically we put four
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shows a week. We put an older episode up on
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Monday that we call the re Abducted series. So right
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right now we're putting older classic episodes from like twenty
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twenty four up. Then we do brand new shows Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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and now, as I said, Friday, everything gets wrapped up
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into a nice little box for you just to listen to.
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On one go.
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We've got got quite a lot of truckers, truck quite
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a lot of truckers and long distance lorry drivers and
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stuff that listened to us.
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And that was kind of our little fight.
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We know you've got a day, a whole day on
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your hands, so here's six hours of us to try
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to put you to sleep while you're on the road.
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Nice like a little art bell sort of radio show.
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I can see. Yeah, yeah, alright.
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Also, movies, got a questions he wants me to ask you.
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Is there a conspiracy behind l Dave Leavin or did
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he just go behind back to live on his murdered
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farm in the Mountains.
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Unfortunately, there was a there was a disagreement about the
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direction of the show. Some people take disagreements well, some
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people don't take disagreements.
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Well.
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Ollie has spoken to Dave once or twice since he
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left the podcast. I haven't personally spoke to Dave since
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he left, so that's kind of it. There isn't really
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a There isn't really a conspiracy as such, just a
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difference of opinions on what we should have been doing.
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And that was it. Shame I missed the guy. I
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do genuinely I miss having having him there to talk to.
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But it's can't can't go crying over spilt Dave's.
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Okay. Well, in that note, thanks for having thanks for
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I was going to say, thanks for having.
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Me on, thank you for letting me take over your show.
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I think I've had so much weed. Man. Well, it
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was a chill show and I knew it would be
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I knew it would be great. I enjoyed it.
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You know one thing though, one thing. Can I just
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get your opinion before you go?
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Yeah, you saw what the Epstein File said about Michael Jackson.
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Yeah didn't you didn't you find that interesting?
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I did you know what I find most interesting about
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Michael Jackson, and I don't I know, we're gonna we're
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going to clear it off off here really quickly. I
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find it most interesting that every conspiracy theorist seems to
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think every singer the actor is a satanic pedophile, apart
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from Michael Jackson, which we have the most evidence about
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him being like a pedophile. Is that not weird? The
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Michael Jackson conspiracy pirate paradox is fucking wild.
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When you know what, when you put it that way,
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it shines kind of a weird light on it, because
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that far, that far the bit is in there. Anyways,
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let's say goodbye, Yeah.
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Good it hit the goodbye button.
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You remember your mom when she used to say goodbye?
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And she's on the phone again for another twenty minutes.
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Yeah that Nick, you're doing anything on Friday?
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Yeah, I'll be back live on Friday. So yeah, come
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shouting on and.
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Addict, do you know what you're talking about?
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No idea, No idea about aliens us update yourpology?
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But that way?
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So yeah, but late, Thank you so much, mate, it's
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a pleasure.
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Are they going to release any files this Friday?
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No idea? Mate, is up is that.
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The schedule wasn't it every two weeks?
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Yeah, but they've been breaking the promises. But anyway, I
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shall get in contact with.
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Government government breaking promises, I have it.
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I'm going I'll speak to Lee's future wife and Polina
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Luna and try and get a prodict. Yes on that one.
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I'm just going to go and sit in that tree
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again and look through a window.
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Well, you can ask Mark Christopherly he tell you all.
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He was supposed to go on our show.
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He was supposed to. Yeah, we hadn't We hadn't booked
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to come on as a guest, and then he disappeared
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on us.
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Maybe he was adupted, just amazing.
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Maybe he might have to do a box of that
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was his great come through skill to just get away
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from the CIA. That is like the wildest See we
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should have talked about that. That's a bad.
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Conspiracy in himself, isn't it.
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You know about that, but you know about the kung
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fu skills that he did to get away from the CIA.
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Yes, Yeah, I love We've we've had bart On multiple
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times on the show and like he is that I
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swear that's something so charming about that guy.
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I love him. To death. He's so nice.
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Okay, Well, on that note, then to talk to the
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fen Dolly We're born to lee. See, I'm so stoned man. Anyways, anyways, man,
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that's it. You know where to catch you know where
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to catch on Lea Nicks on Friday, check him out.
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Me I'll catch you again. So on that note, man,
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stay blessed and keep safe