Ep13 Work Ethic

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Thank you for joining us again. how have you been? What's been going on? Several things have been going on s simultaneously. Yeah. I once wrote a book. You once wrote a book. Yeah. I once wrote a book. Right. It's called The Art of Concurrent Activity. Mm-hmm. And in that book it was an e book, but but years ago I wrote it. And the the essence of the book is you're able to do multiple things at once. Right. So I guess I was prepared myself for this aspect of my life where I'm doing multiple things at once 'cause I think While you put something on, like if I'm boiling water, I don't have to stand and watch the water boil. Mm-hmm. I could then wash the cups and plates that dirty, then I could make a sandwich and by the time the water is boiled, the sandwich is ready. So the art of concurrent activity is basically an idea that we could do multiple things simultaneously without impacting the quality of all. Yeah. Do you know, now you've said this, I think I want to talk about this on this podcast. You want to talk about the art of concurrent activity. I just want to talk about the element of that multitasking type thing. Yeah. So you believe And the ethics of work. So you want to talk about Because I know where this is going, I'm very hesitant to ask. No, no, it's not going there. Okay I promise you. I promise you. It's just been something recently that Ian and I have been talking about, but also having conversations with other friends around work ethic and how we actually had a conversation. I went to a gig last night and we had a conversation in the car about it. So I love I love the impromptu ness of this. Yeah, right, so random. I know we had a a topic in mind, but we should Okay, let's let's shift we're shifting let's shift the mindsets. Yeah. Right into this. And it's your fault because you just told me about your book. Yeah. Anyway, so you were saying that you wrote this book. Yeah. So I wrote this book, The Art of Concurrent Activity. I I think I put a linked on LinkedIn but I lost that LinkedIn profile. And then I had it on there, but no one a few of my friends like kind of downloaded it. But it it wasn't a worldwide success. No one knows who I am. So it's like who's this random guy? I mean if you imagine now if you released it like Imagine if I did that now. Daryl next door would be having it. Daryl, I'm gonna get you a copy. Anyway, I'll have two copies gone, which is I mean I'll take a totalistic one. so you were say when I asked you what you'd been doing lately, you then mentioned about that book. So I'm assuming you're juggling a lot at the moment with the I'm doing concurrent activities. Yes. simultaneously and trying not to impact the quality of of of them. Good one, Jed. That makes me really proud 'cause you know that's one of my things. I know that's one of your things. But the What I know about you're gonna if you're gonna do a lot of stuff, you've got to do it well. Yeah. What I do know about you is quality is very important to you. Yeah. Making sure that something is done and done well. your your measurement of what well is and my measurement of well may be different because I I sometimes feel like well doesn't need to be perfect. But but yeah, so I'll be interested to understand what that new development is and w what what your mindset is about this because I I do have an idea what you think about concurrent activity. Or do I? I don't know. So what do you think about concurrent activity? In the sense When you're saying doing multiple things at once. Yeah. Various different juggling lots of different projects. What do I think about that? Yeah, what what do you think about the whole idea of so so let me tell you where that comes from from from for me. That I think that comes from my days as a chef. Mm-hmm. So what the best chef in NATO. What I did learn is the final goal is to make sure everything comes out together and everything comes out hot. Everything comes out of good quality and everything is on time. So that's the final goal of a chef. Yeah. So you have a list of different ingredients, different textures, different tastes, but you need to make sure that everything comes out in the end on time. So if I put the meat in, I know that takes the longest to cook, and I know that takes an hour and a half to cook. Let's just say if I had a massive joint. I put that in in a certain time. While that's been done, I now think about okay, do I need to get these potatoes ready and put them but even after I get these potatoes ready, I don't need to put them on now. Yeah. I know that needs fifteen minutes. So I could do the prep and put that away. Now, people like, but the meat is in the oven. Yeah, but because I'm I have the experience, I know it will take me twenty minutes to prep this potatoes and I know I could put them in the fridge. Yeah. And after I do that, I could then start making the jus, put the stuff on for the jus. And then I know the salad. The salad, I could do the salad very early, put it in the fridge. That wouldn't be impacted. So I'm doing all of this. Now for somebody that doesn't have the experience cooking They may just do one at a time, do this, then do that, and they're cooking their cooking experience maybe Yeah. They'll take four hours to do a meal, which I would probably take an hour and a half to do. Yeah. So in in this moment, I just want to shout out to chefs because I don't think for people who go out to restaurants and whatever else, I don't think we really give a thought of how stressful that job is. Yeah. Like yeah. it is very stressful because not only Is there an expectation? But if you mess it up But it's also the fact that not you just you've just described one item on the menu. Yeah. You then add in multiple multiple things and making sure they're of good consistency and good quality and hot and you know, you've got a table of ordered all different things and you make in fresh. I'm not talking about the stuff that goes in microwaves and reheated and all that jazz. Again, hats off to you 'cause I still think it takes a lot of work. But Yeah, just yeah, I just think it's incredible. There's so many different elements and if you mess it up and you don't have a backup because then now you have to start thinking about is there a backup? If everything goes to shit. Yeah. For example, if this entire pot of jus goes to shit, yeah. You cannot serve the the people on the ground and tell them, sorry, we didn't have any zoo today. Yeah. You gotta think of how could I repla replace this? Yeah. And what's the alternative to to do that? So your your mind is working in so many different ways. Do you think with your your different projects that you're doing you have a Zoo standard for all of them? So I treat it like cooking. Yeah. So I'm like, so if I'm here and I'm thinking of an idea, right? Yeah. My instinct is I need to run this idea by somebody. Yeah. Sometimes me. Sometimes you, yeah. Yeah. Just to get a sounding board to figure out, okay, does this make sense? Yeah. Now, as soon as I tell people the idea, they'll be like, another project for this boy. Yeah. But what what I don't understand is I may think of an idea, I may even research an idea. That doesn't mean I'm about to execute that idea. That's me peeling the potatoes and putting it on the side. And thinking when the time comes for me to put this in the oven, I have everything I need to put this in the oven. Yeah. That's not just me just doing it and thinking, let me get this in the oven, because that's what people think I'm doing. They're like, this guy's thinking of an idea and he's just gonna burn himself out. But no. I do the prep, I put it away and I've store it. So a year passes by and then an opportunity comes by and I'm like, I've done all the research for that. I just need to top up, get the most relevant research now and then see if that works. And I still may not do it then, but it's done. Yeah. So that's how my mind works. I treat it like I'm in a massive kitchen and I'm preparing meals for a particular time, but I don't know what that time is. Yeah. Which is a strange thing. That's but that's how my mind works. Yeah. So maybe chefing has had a very influential part. It has been a always been an influential part of my life because my mom I grew up watching my mum yeah prep and put food together and stuff like that. So I think that has really shaped. and again something comes to my mind now like jobs. Yeah. I always tell people one of the best preparation for jobs is is that career as a chef. Because if I were to write a C V now, Sheffin taught me so many different elements of management. From being on the f shop floor where I'm the guy who's peeling the big bags of potatoes and spending hours peeling it to grow into a supervisor role where I had to learn not to be the guy peeling, but to be the guy who's assisting other people with their tasks. So stepping back from 'Cause if I'm spending an hour peeling this and something is burning on the other side, I don't know anything that's happening. So I have to be able to go to these people. And then from moving from that supervisor to almost a manager where I'm like the like it's an orchestra. A conductor. A conductor. Good. Thank you. You're welcome. And then looking at those management of different departments and being able to manage these different departments to make sure all of these elements come inside. so when you when I'm writing a C V now, I could talk about these different skill sets. and have no reference to food. Yeah. I get ya. juggling multiple things at once, yeah. Yeah. And your skills as a chef helped you do that. Yeah. Yeah. So Thank you, Chef and Career. Yeah. Thank you, Chefin Career. No, like I say, I mean I even when you think about something as simple as a Christmas dinner, we hosted Christmas dinners here years and years and you just literally go, you'd work back the way, wouldn't you? What's gonna take the longest and then just have your different timings of when things need to go in. And I laugh now. I mean I don't do Christmas anymore, my sister and my mum do it. but I laugh at how long you prep a Christmas dinner for twenty minutes eating of it. And it's just like in or so to me. It's just a Sunday roast, essentially. Why do we make it so big? anyway, but yeah. So with regard to talking about work, I suppose it's work ethic I thought we could cover in that. Because again, like I know that you're juggling a lot and and and the conversations that we've been having or I've been having with people around that element of work ethic, almost about are you silly to have a strong work ethic? That's a good question and I'd say it depends. I think Like everything else, there's so many elements to this question. I and also it depends on who you are, where you are in your life and also w where you are physically w working and stuff like that. Because having a strong work ethic I think is always recommended because that's a part of you. Your dependability, your character, what people know you to be. And if you have a strong work ethic it always does very well for you. With regards to people recommend you, people trust you, people depend on you, you become dependable and stuff like that. But at the same time, you have to know when to use your mind with that. Because you could then become somebody that people take for granted. Yeah. You could become the go to person and then instead of it being a strength, it becomes a very terrible weakness. Yeah. A very terrible hindrance to your progression. Because if you're the person that could always make things happen, why should I reward you from for for any more? Yeah. Because I'll get it from you anyway. Yeah. So it's doesn't I don't need to reward you because I know you have the strongest work ethic. But also from the flip side of that is the people who don't necessarily have a stronger work ethic or they they survive just as well. Yes. And so they don't you know They piggyback off the strong work ethic people. And and there's So there are certain skills in a work environment, and that's really good that this is evolving into this kind of conversation. There are certain skills in a work environment that are not fair. It's it's it was never designed to be fair. And if you're somebody that believes in fairness, you would really not like it. Yeah. What I'm about to say next. Because you would be you maybe find yourself in a working environment and you feel that you're probably the best at what you do. Mm-hmm. And sometimes you think because you're the best you probably need to be promoted to that. But sometimes when it comes to promotion, you know, different types of promotion or different types of growth within organizations, you might be the best at what you do, but may not be the best to be promoted. Yeah. Because you might have this extraordinary work ethic and be very good at the process of of that job. But when it comes to making tough decisions like firing someone for doing something that they shouldn't be doing, reprimanding or making tough decisions, you may squirm at this, and that might not be something you want to do. Whereas that's what management may need at the time. They may need somebody to take that, do that, and make these tough decisions, and not necessarily another hard worker. Yeah. So they would promote the person that's absolutely lazy but could make these decisions at this period of time because that's what the company. Yeah. So sometimes if you you need to think really multi dimensional in your workplace because it's not just about who's the best worker or who's the toughest worker. So you know, so you have to understand the environment you're in. That's that's my take on it. No, I think that I mean it's it's really funny 'cause we've I've been having conversations around this recently 'cause it's it's happening to a friend of mine around a promotional opportunity. So Yeah, it's been it's been something that we've talked about a lot. I think one of the things we were saying yesterday, talking about it, was that bit of going almost I've had this conversation in the past, that element of being It's almost it's costing you or i i it's a cost to you to be that person. So if for example you've got a colleague doing exactly the same role as you but you know, you sort of question they're they're probably doing their hours, surely they're the winner. Yeah. And and although like you pride yourself in your work ethic and think I will always strive to work as hard as I possibly can for the organisation that I work for. if you're if you're seeing your counterparts doing less that you almost go Hold on. Am I a mug? I and they're the winner. I wouldn't say I was a mug, but they're the winner. Yeah. Yeah. So so I and and that's They've struck the right balance, sorry Jed, but they've struck the right balance, haven't they? Yeah. but for for someone who who works hard and who does it, sometimes that hits hard. Yeah. When you know that you're putting in much more effort and you are producing more but these individuals that don't produce as much are possibly getting rewarded. Yeah. And you're like, what am I doing wrong? it is frustrating, but there's hope. The hope is you could you could relearn. Yeah. You you could readjust yeah. yourself. I think one of the things that although I'd already made this decision in my life around the the fact that I was changing the way that I was working, I'd already started it before I left my last job and I've obviously had a shift in in the way that I work now, like being part time and stuff. But conversations that we've had on the couch have meant have almost reiterated it or emphasized it a little bit more that the importance of that element of prioritizing self self and your life. Yeah. As opposed to you know, you see all those things all the time of like, if I was to die tomorrow, my job would be advertised within a week. Yeah. you know, and actually that bit of like you've s I think we covered it probably in the the dream episode where we spoke about why we fight so hard for somebody else's gain, the company's gain or whatever, but we won't do that for ourselves. Yeah. And I think I'm definitely in that process at the moment of going, Okay, so, you know, living to work, dying to work, all of those things it's not right. it's not. and yeah, yeah, I think you're on to something good. Yeah. I just I think the big thing for me is that I I've already started that process and again conversations that have organically come up on this couch have reiterated it and emphasized it for me more. So I I think there is something to be said for having a great work ethic. Yeah. I think there's something to say in taking pride in the the job that you do and working the hardest that you can for an organisation you believe in. Yeah. But if you're in a role where you just feel like you're not appreciated or you're not valued in the way that you need to be, then you need to look at changing and getting out of that. Yeah. and I for for me, my mindset had I had to shift from being the hardest worker to shifting the word hard for smart. Yeah. Because smart smart is not sexy. Smart sometimes looks lazy. Smart sometimes may not feel natural to you. So so I think everyone has different skill sets, right? Mm-hmm. And what I've learned, especially in the career I've been in for the last twenty years, what I've learnt is there are people that have just a different skill set than you. Mm-hmm. My skill set might be give me a task, I am laser focused on that task, I'll get that task done and I'll present that task to the best of my ability. Yeah. There may be other people that that's not their skill set. Getting a task, managing is not. But they Know how to influence leaders. So their job, their skill set is I work my way with the people with influence, I talk to them, I laugh with them, I make myself valuable to them, and I and I excel. Yeah. That's their skill set. Now the leaders may not even recognize it's happening to them. They're under the firm of these individuals. And they won't even know that this is happening. It's just natural. Now Do I get angry that this person is doing that? No, that's their skill set. Yeah. And sometimes in an organization, you need people with that skill set for some particular reason. You can't just have a bunch of hardworking people that just lift rocks and drop rocks. Yeah. They're good. It's great to have that. But you need these influencers, you need these shakers, you need these people that know every secret in the job. Yeah. Everybody's personal business. Somehow they get to know. Yeah. These people play an important role in the ecosystem of the in organizations. So once once you get that kind of workplace maturity and you understand that, you have less resentment. I think that's the problem, isn't it? Is that if you you feel as though because you've worked super hard and whether it's smart or hard, but you've you've you've given everything you can, that element of entitlement creates resentment. It does create resentment. And because like you say, you could, you know, somebody might you might look at somebody and just be like, hold on, they've not been doing this job as long as me, they've not had as much experience as I have. But potentially, I think one of the things that sticks in my mind that you said to me was that element of when you started to become a supervisor and you'd be helping Jimmy chop carrots because you could see he was really slow at doing it. Whereas actually by helping Jimmy chop the carrots you weren't seeing that Timmy, Tommy and Tally. Put it in to put salt in the soup. Yeah, exactly. Weren't doing everything else. So that bit of stepping back and observing it all. And again, I think I had that skill set, but I didn't necessarily put it into action as much as I did. It was it was too easy for me to to go in and support and show and h hold hands as opposed to just stepping back. Yeah. so it's definitely something I've learnt over the years and I think what I love what I'm doing now, it's really funny 'cause so many people have messaged me as I've had this week this last week off and people have gone, I really hope you've managed to unwind. I am like a completely different person to what I was three months ago. Like that element of adjusting to being part time was always going to be a challenge for me. No, it's not. And being able to switch off from work, you know, I still care and I still do a really good job and I want to succeed and work hard for the place that I work now, but I've just I've massively changed and shifted. Yeah. which I'm I'm really happy about. and that's Well done, by the way. You listened really well. Well you looked as though you were listening really well. Whether you heard me or not. I'm learning, you know, I learn I learn along the way. I'm learning to listen, be less interruptive, understand that there are valuable points that need to come out. And so yeah. So I'm evolving too. But it's very, very interesting to to to see that in in my life, in your life that we we are evolving as as individuals. And and also we could reflect on things that we've done and our lives and our careers. And as we do that, I guess people are doing that too. I think this is gonna be a great episode for people to sit down and listen to. Yeah, I think yeah, I I hope so because like I say, I think the whether the motivation that spurred me in your original thought as to why I might be talking about this. it isn't about that. I think it's just about seeing people I really care about almost stuck where I was and it and it's really hard 'cause you kinda just want to go, it's not worth it. But nobody can hear that until they're ready to hear it or ready to change it. And I just think that we can all I went so I went up to Scotland a couple of weeks ago, to be able to travel back from Scotland to Wales with my sister. And I arrived early as she was finishing work and stuff and one of her colleagues, her favourite colleagues, was leaving work. And there was a screening of this film she's obviously a teacher and she sat in this classroom and one of her colleagues had created this little video clip of her saying goodbye to her colleague. And it was just these people that have all been brought together from different walks of life, different experiences, different skill sets, different jobs, you know, everything that they did and they all came together to celebrate this thing. And I I mean I don't l work in that school, but I sat there and I had a little tear of this little video that had been created. And I just sort of think that they're the reasons that we should work hard. It's those relationships that we create. It's those memories with people. Those those lovely moments we create with people that aren't about necessarily, you know, the job that we do. Yeah. I suppose. Yeah. I I've recently made a massive decision in my career. Have you? I don't know this. Did you like my surprise folks? Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Yeah, so I've I I've recently made a a massive decision in my career. And that decision is for me to to kind of transition into something where I kinda look after myself a bit more. and and my life and I wanted to I find the career that I do have now is very, very rewarding. just like my previous I mean, chefing was an a very rewarding career because You you almost get rewarded after every meal. People tell you thank you. People tell you that was great, that was good. W although that was one of the most cringiest part of my job. really? Yeah, because they'd call you out and the whole room would clap at a function and and you'd almost have to you just hate the fact that you had to stand there and wait for and people would clap and say, you know, well done. That was cringy. I used to get that every day though at work. When I walked down the corridor. Yeah, okay. But but now I it was a joke. I didn't Now I do a different type of job and it's more or less about supporting people mentally, yeah therapeutically. Mass may you make a massive impact now. And that's a that's a different type of reward and stuff like that. And I think now what I want career wise when it comes to work ethic I want to be able to r get to a stage in my life where I put in as much effort as I want for me. Yeah. And I and I'm not trying to reach a quota that no one has set for me. Yeah, yeah. Because I I do believe sometimes no matter how hard you work, you could never be valued. there's no price I could put on on my value. Your job would be re advertised. In a second. In a second, yeah. That's the that's the way you gotta look at it, yeah. There there there's no value I could put on on y you know A a workplace could put a value on you and say, I could pay you X amount of money a month and that's and you need to wait thirty days and I'll give you this amount of money. That's that's them telling you what your time is worth to them. I just feel there's no workplace in the world that could tell me how much value I I am worth. And I just feel like I wanna adopt that mindset that I know my value. My value doesn't have a figure on it. You know, and I don't I don't get out of that space where I think I have y's twenty pounds an hour for me. Like I want to get out of that. Yeah. Mentally I wanna dissolve that in my mind. I wanna I wanna throw this away. So I I wanna broaden my mindset to know that I am as valuable as I feel I am. I could give much more value than twenty pound. I could give a thousand pounds an hour value if I wanted today or not. But yeah, so I just wanna break that. So that's where I'm headed. Yeah, it's a work ethic. So the the interesting thing as well about the job that you do now, and it's similar to my job as well with work with youth work, is that sometimes you won't be able to see your value until years later. Or if those people ever come back to you. And it's like, I think those jobs are incredible, but in the moment, you know, you as a youth worker you hear people say, God, I worked with a kid and twenty years later I was in the shop and they came in and they were like, da da And and they're the sort yeah, they're the sort of things that you want to hold on. So you're never really gonna see your impact. You'll see immediate impact potentially, but you'll never know your impact until yeah, years later, and then you won't be around to hear that. Yeah. And I think sometimes those jobs are rewarding in the moment, but again, for you to just get that warm fuzzy feeling, like the clapping that made you cringe, you don't get that clapping. Yeah. in the immediate with the types of work that we both were doing. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. All started with some work ethic. Yeah. All started with a what did you call The Art of Concurrent Activities. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think I might put this book out again. Try it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure where the files are. Maybe I'll look for it. Maybe let me read it first and I'll tell you whether it's worth putting it out. Because I'll probably read it again and figure this is bullshit. Yeah. Because the the mindset I had ten years ago is a different mindset now. and and you know, the things I believed in three years ago, I probably don't believe them now because I evolve as a creature. And I I think what's really again interesting for me is that bit of like again, I'm not I'm not using the couch as a way to learn, but I am learning. And I think we've both had this discussion that things that we're talking about or conversations that come up we're sort of growing and developing in that way. But I when I think about Like I've had to have a word with myself about unclenching a little bit about the quality and stuff. I know that I get so wound up. You've done well this week or the last two weeks actually. Yeah. Because I'm thinking, is she getting mad? Mm. But you've done well. Even if you were mad and you didn't show it. You've got to But it's it's things like I don't I don't like to make a mistake. So I told Jed earlier that I deleted a whole episode. And what was my response? You d you don't care, but I but I go into panic and I suppose sometimes what I'm then looking for is not for you to go into panic mode with me, but at least go, God, I can see why you're stressed out. Does that make sense? Yeah. So there's that element of saying, like Yeah, thinking about when I deleted that episode, I suppose I was really mad and then there was a I'd made an error on something that I'd sent over to you and you were like, Great transition. And I was just like, my god, that wasn't what I was meant to send. It was because I was on the train and I was doing this and I go into like this it must be a element of not liking to fail or to make it. It good to me. I I was like, This is good. This is I thought you were being sarcastic when you were like, Great transition. No, I wasn't. I I was literally thinking that was a good transition. So basically on one of the episodes. You know what? I need to start calling you to talk. You do. I can communicate with you for text because you get it wrong. I do. But anyway, I didn't didn't get arsy with you. No, you didn't. my god, please delete it. I was so embarrassed. But basically, on one of our episodes. Sorry. I was wondering why you asked me to delete it. Yeah. Because I thought it was good. No, it was embarrassing. No, it wasn't. n but I need to explain to you what I actually did. So in one of the episodes, because obviously Jed and I will sometimes record multiple in one day, because we don't get to see each other that often that we can always do it. You are giving away a well, yeah. Hashtag spoiler alert. But yeah, sometimes we have to record multiple and this one day we'd recorded one and we kind of just went into a bit of a chat and didn't say goodbye to anybody. So I took a clip from one that we had said goodbye and I inserted it into the other one and then it got rid of the video and then it just said the couch the area as we were saying goodbye so you didn't see us. And I was so impressed that I'd learnt to do that. But on that one, because it was a clip of, it was a copy of, it didn't remove it. Yeah, but because i you had said in the clip before that we so are we going to get changed. Yeah. And as soon as you said that, it changed our clothes and then it had I see. No, that was like it was chatting. Like it was a proper mistake. That's why it looked good. Because you said we're going to get are we gonna get changed now? And then came back, we were changed. And then I had an angry bird on it. And you had an angry bird. And I thought, that's genius. So I was mortified while you were celebrating. You were clapping me and I was I was like, This is good. No, I was so embarrassed. No. No one would know. I knew. We knew. And then you like, Yeah, I've already posted it. I'm like, take it down. I was like, okay. Relax. Yeah. I didn't actually post it. I'm like, Yes you did I did post it. Yeah, I saw it. And then you were like gaslighting me by going, I didn't actually post the full one I went, I've seen it Yeah, but no because I thought you were talking about something else. I was like, That cannot be the era she's talking about and she's like, I've seen it. I was like, okay. Okay. Anyway, we're learning as we go along that we've got very different personalities. Yeah, and I need to communicate through words. Maybe voice messages. Voice notes. But I've said you don't read mine when they're angry, so You don't even hear them that they're angry. No, I don't know. I'm oblivious to anger. My wife probably says the same thing. Yeah. She gets angry at me and like three minutes later I'm like, Yeah, baby, and she's like Mm mm mm. Still not talking to you. Yeah. And I'm like, What's the point? You wanna talk to me tomorrow? Why you drag it for twenty four hours? Just do it in f forty minutes. Let's get there. Let's get to the positive quicker. Yeah. Well, that was good. Yes. So anyway, what's our final message is about Work ethic. Work ethic, for me work ethic is perfect. It's great, it's something that you should do, it brings a lot of personal pride, but be very careful that your work ethic is not drowning you and it's not the same thing that's causing you hindrance. Because if you rely solely on work ethic, you miss out on a lot because the working environment is is complex and it's dynamic. you may just build up resentment if you focus on your own work ethic. Think about the different elements that you could use and also think about how to make yourself more valuable to you. Mm-hmm. And I would say the same thing around consider the organization that you're doing it for. Is it something that motivates you or ticks the boxes for you? And then it doesn't matter if you're gonna work harder and smarter. But just make sure that it is again something that fills your jar as opposed to somebody else's. Hundred percent. Well thank you. Thanks everyone. Have great weeks, peace and pal.