Breaking Down the Depth Chart on Offense So Far

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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eyawic the podcast. I'm
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Tony Gerdaman here as always Tom or Tom. How's it going, Tony?
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It is a depth chart show, so it's on today's episode.
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My name is tom Or, but it's O R at
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the end instead of with two hours.
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Like North and bold bolded or for tom Or. I
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just me as you guys know, but we would do
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want to discuss the depth chart. We'll talk about the
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offense initially here in this show and let everybody know
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the kind of the baseline where things stand right now
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from what we've seen, what we've heard, and we could
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just start at quarterbackwards. It's Julian Saying and Javian Saint Clair,
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and I think the real battle is Luke Fahee and
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Justin Martin.
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Yeah, I think you've got a very clear number one
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in Julian Saying, a very clear number two in Tavian
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Saint Clair. And then I would have expected Justin Martin
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to be ahead of Luke Fayhee coming into the fall,
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but it feels like at times fay He maybe has
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passed him. But you know, if if you were a
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third quarterback battle is your big question at quarterback, that's
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not really much of a much of an issue running back.
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You know, you've got Isaiah West and Bo Jackson as
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you're one in two, two and one, and right now,
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from what we've seen, we saw Isaiah West early on.
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We know Bo Jackson as your returning thousand yard starters,
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so obviously he's he's not going anywhere. We're How do
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you view those guys right now? Is it one? A,
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one B? Is it wanted to? Like? What do you
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what do you see it?
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Well, I think you've got two guys who are I
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think Isaiah West. Whatever the gap was between Bo Jackson
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and Isaiah West was at some point, Isaiah West has
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more than made that up. I'm certainly expecting Isaiah West
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to start Game one of the season at this point.
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And you know, I think those guys are at worst
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a Isaiah West or Bo Jackson for the first spot.
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And then.
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To me, the more interesting question is after that, is
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it is it legend BA after that?
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Well, and the way I've kind of gone around and
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gotten out of this discussion is by saying Legend Bay
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is his own thing, and so he doesn't factor in
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like he's his first team legend and Jacoby Jackson is
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third team running back, and I don't know how that
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all mixes together. If I wanted time to play Legend,
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they play Legend, and it's when they want Legend out there,
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they'll put him out there. Whereas well, we need a
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running back right now? Okay, well, you know as a
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Boa or Isaiah's turners at Jacoby's turn I right, but
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we saw Legend out there with the tunes. Should Azeo's back.
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I think the potential is certainly higher with Legend. Jacoby's
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been fine, but I think you're gonna have to find
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You're gonna want ways to get You're gonna find ways
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to have Legend out there. You're gonna win him out
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there as much as you can, at least with the
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ball in his hands. So three A, three B.
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Yeah, it's kind of interesting because I think you're gonna
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have situations where, if you were in a situation where
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there's gonna be pass pro involved, you're gonna want the
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guy who's been in college for seven years because he's
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gonna have a lot more experience, and you know, he's
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no longer eighteen years old or nineteen years old. He's
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old enough to probably rent a car by himself. So
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there are gonna be situations where it is definitely gonna
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be this is a Jacoby Jackson situation, but there are
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going to be legend based situations as well. So I
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don't know, Maybe maybe this is a Isaiah West or
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Bo Jackson and a Jacoby Jackson or or legend bay
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where the top two are pretty interchangeable and the bottom
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two are situational, right.
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And I can also see where when Jacoby Jackson is
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in the game, Bo Jackson and Isaiah West maybe getting arrest,
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whereas legend babing in the game has nothing to do
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with anybody else being tired. Yeah, it's it's just a
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it's time for we want to do this with legend
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type of thing.
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Yeah, that's possible. And he may be a that. He
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may be the guy who's in there in twenty one
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personnel or twenty two person right where you've got two
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backs in there and he's one of the backs but
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full back. He's well, is he in the shot gin
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formation or is he split out into the slought or
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is he you.
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Notions out you know when split Yeah. Yeah, although Arthur
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Smith did say we will not be doing split backs
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on third and long like the forty nine ers of old.
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It's too bad they don't have a Tom Rathman on
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this roster.
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Sadly, as I told him last years, leading will route
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is undefeated. It is it is. Yeah, as long as
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you block it now you're found your players under the bus.
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But then to the receivers, wrote, from what we've seen,
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it's a very clear Jeremiah Smith, Brandon Innis, Devin MQ
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and devn Q and to Z and Brandon Innis at
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the slots and of course Jeremiah Smith at the accident
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everywhere else. We have not seen Kyle Parker. He's presumably
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he's gonna be back or is back by this point.
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Who can play ze or slot, can go inside, outside,
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all that stuff, does the quick stuff. So really it's
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a top four. I'm not sure how that's gonna work
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out in terms of who snaps he's taking.
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Yeah, that's that's kind of the sixty four thousand dollars
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question right now, because we just we haven't seen it,
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and he's someone who going, you know, coming out of
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the spring. We thought, well, he could be in slot,
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he could be outside, he could kind of go anywhere.
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We'll have more clarity in the fall, and here we
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are in the fall, and because he's been a little
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banged up, we don't have any more clarity. So I
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feel like I'm more confident in where Devin McEwen is
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on the death chart than I was prior to the
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start of Fall camp. So that means in my mind,
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I guess it's more likely that Kyle Parker, whatever snaps
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he takes, it's more likely that at least a decent
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percentage in coming to slot. But I don't, you know,
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I don't have any real basis for that other than
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I feel like Devin McEwen has taken a substantial step
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forward in my mind.
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I also feel like there's not as much need at
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Z behind Devin McEwen because you've got brockvoid, right, So
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the real need is who is that going to be
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that back up that second slot? Maybe CO slot, I guess,
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because you've got Phillip Bell there, but and does Z Jones,
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But really I think that's Kyle Parker and Brandon Innis
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is that top two and Brock Boyd as the Devin
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McEwen back up, Chris Henry as Jeremiah Smith's back up
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at this point, and really none of these guys, Devin
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McEwen and Brock Boyd could probably be on the field
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together at the time. They're making sure that Jeremiah Smith
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and Chris Henry Junior can be on the field together
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at the same time as they move guys around.
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Yeah, and I think that if they move it might
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be Jeremiah Smith in the slot like that. That's something
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that you have seen them do that at times in
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the past, which then you know that's where you need
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like the little box, like where they have the sign
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language interpreter. You need the little box that shows the
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opposing defensive coordinator up in the in the coachase box.
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When they line Jeremiah Smith up on the slot where
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it's like no, no, no, no, no, no no, that's
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not no no no, that is not a winning matchup
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for us, no, no, no. I think they're going to
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be trying to find opportunities to move him around. And
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they've done this with lots of guys over the years.
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I mean, you saw actually Smith and Jagba lining up
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all over the place. You saw you saw Garret Wilson
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lining up all over the place, like they have done
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this with these these really top end receivers before, and
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I think Jeremiah Smith if certainly, if Chris Henry ends
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up being one of the three best receivers on this
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team and we're not you know, we're not there yet,
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but if he ends up being one of the three
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best receivers, that's not a problem worth Like, oh, no,
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two of the best receiver, Two of the three best
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receivers both play X is Like Nope, that that just
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opened up lots of other possibility.
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Was it twenty twenty when we were trying to figure
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out or where's Garrett Wilson gonna player? Maybe twenty twenty one,
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like how are they gonna And it's like because we're
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talking into slaughter Z and it's like, well those are
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already occupied and they come out in like Brian Harlan's
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we're putting him at X. Yeah, it's like, oh, I
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never thought about that, this six foot guy playing the
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big possession X receiver type of thing. Will they go?
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Do you can Philip Bell get snaps because he's solid,
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he's crafty. We know cortess Ancton is going to play more.
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We assume Cortus Hnkton is going to play more players
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than Brian Hartline is their room for a seventh guy,
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and Frankly is their room for a sixth being like
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rock BOYD at this point, I think he's gonna play.
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Though, I yeah, I think I think you're gonna see
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those guys play because Cortest Hancton has traditionally played more guys,
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And every time we have this conversation, I feel like
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I need to say with the caveat that we don't
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have enough information to know yet whether Cortes Hankton has
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always played more guys because he didn't have the top
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end wide receiver talent at previous stops that he does
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at Ohio State, or maybe his depth was better at
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previous stops than it was at Ohio State, or maybe
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he just prefers to play more guys. And we'll know
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a lot more about that three weeks a month in
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the season that we do right now.
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Yeah, I mean he's had some good guys at LSU,
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but yeah, he's like he will play more. We'll see
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if we'll play more here tight end. I think they're very,
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very deep. Mate. Roberts said the same thing. I view
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this as three and a half or four co starters,
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and if I were to put this in a depth chart,
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like Nate robert which is probably my one, but everybody
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else is going to play with the first team as
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well as Nate Roberts or Mason Williams or Hunter Welsing
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or Mente Christian. You're going to see all of those
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guys out there with the ones and then oh there's
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Brody Lenny. Max LeBlanc has had a fantastic they fall
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camp from what I've seen, making catches and doing things,
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so very deep group that can do a bunch of
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different things. Fourteen personnel all day long. No, no, no,
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I think there's a bunch of co starters here.
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Yeah, this feels like one where it's sort of a
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situational thing. Where do you want the you know, the
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receiving tight end? Do you want the blocking tight end?
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And obviously it can't just be well, when this guy's in,
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it's always because he's always going to run a passing route,
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it's always going to be staying in the block or whatever.
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But you've got lots of different guys who can fill
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lots of different roles there, and maybe one of them
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is going to be the fullback kind of role like
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you had at times last year. So I think this
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is one where you could look at the top five
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guys at this position, maybe six guys in this position,
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and all of them could have ten percent of the
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snaps this year and none of them have more than
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forty percent of the snaps this year, or something like that,
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where this could be as deep a tight end rotation
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as we've seen, because there isn't the one guy, like
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maybe Nate Roberts will turn into a Max Claire's type receiver.
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Maybe maybe Hunter Wilson will turn into that We'll see,
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maybe Mason Williams will turn into a Wilcsmeric type blopper blocker. Maybe.
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But I think you've got a lot of guys who
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are going to be used somewhat interchangeably, and you can
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you could really almost just put the top five names
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or between them and just sort of shrug and move on.
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So let's move to the offensive line and be definitive
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about this and not knowing who the first team is yet.
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If you're going to tell you who the first team is, right,
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you know that's yeah. Ian Warre left tackle, Luke Montgomery
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I left guard, Carson Hasmen at center, Austin Ciervelde right guard,
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Phillip Daniels right tackle. Tom Are you locked in on
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that being the first team offensive line against ball Stadium?
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I think so that was what we came into the
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fall thinking, this is probably going to be it, or
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this is the most likely of the outcomes. And I
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haven't seen or heard anything over the course of the
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first week of fall practice to make me move off
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of that position where you know, yeah, we saw them
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do a couple run a couple different lineups out there,
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and we saw them, you know, try some different stuff.
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But what was out there day one? What was out
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there day three? When Arthur Smith was talking about it,
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he was talking about and don't forget and then named
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three guys who were not in that first group. But
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all the indications right now to me are that's going
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to be your starting offensive line.
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And so behind them, we've seen Carter Lowe at second
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team left tackle, Jake Cook has been a backup at
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left guard. Center Josh would be your backup center. We've
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also seen Jake Cook there. We've seen Max Riley actually
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get some snaps there as well, and of course Mason
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Well so they've got some options, but clearly the backup
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is Josh Padilla's trying to think off the top of
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my head, right guard, right tackle, see Deontay Armstrong or
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right tackle some yeah, and then you know right guard
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Tom second team, Yeah.
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Probably it's probably Jake Cook at left guard, gave Ban
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Cycle at the right guard, Josh Pittia at center, but
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really Josh Petia might and depending on who goes out
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in the first team you get gave Josh Piddia could
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be the next guy in its center, the next guy
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in a right guard, and Austin Serraville most to left tackle.
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You've got a lot of different possibilities, but I think
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that's probably your second team there.
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Yeah, and it's just like the first team. If something
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were to happen to Ian Moore or Philip Daniels, you're
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your next tackle in is Austin Siraveld. Yeah, it's guys
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can play multiple positions and Josh Pitiaz certainly want that
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can play anywhere on the interior. Arthur Smith said of
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Austin Siravald, he's a four. You know, he can play
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four different positions, and you know, I'm not gonna say
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he can't play center either, But so there there. Well,
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the third teams they saw some Sam Greer freshman left tackle,
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saw some later breed another freshman, Like when you get
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to the third team on the offensive line, it's just
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it's third and fourth team, and it's just, yeah, guys
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really inexperienced. Finally, some guys. We did also see Vashan
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Washington with the second team the transfer from Villanova Dartmouth.
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Dartmouth the same thing as far as I'm concerned.
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If you've been to hang over New Hampshire and suburban
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Philadelphia know they are not very much not the same thing.
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But yeah, we've seen it was shown Washington with the
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twos as well, so I wanted to mention that. But
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any anything else from this up to chart discussion do
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you want to talk about? Let me talk about the kickers.
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Let's throw the kickers out here, because I thought it
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was interesting Tom when they had during practice when we
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were out there Saturday and they stopped during the eleven
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and eleven and brought the kicker out to do a
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fifty yarder and a sixty yarder. It was not counter Hawkins.
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It was the transfer from Notre Dame, which I don't
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have my screen up right now, so it's uh, I'm
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gonna let you fumble around for a little perhaps Marti
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being the the last name a.
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Marcelo Diomiede, Diamiede.
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There you go, diamond.
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Diade transfer from Notre Dame. Yes, the transfer from Notre Dame.
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And he had a couple of kicks last year, but
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he was booming them early on, and I just thought
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it was interesting. Maybe it's like, well, these are hard kicks,
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so let the let's see what this transfer has. And
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he was like just wide on both of them that
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had plenty of legs. So I thought that was interesting.
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But know it's Conor Hawkins as your number one kifter.
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Yeah, Connor Hawkins is your number one kicker, dimed. He
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was a kickoff guy at times for Notre Dame last year,
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and uh, you sort of started the year as a
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as a as a kicker, did some you know, sort
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of kicked situationally later in the year. But yeah, he's
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he's clearly, you know, game on the line, thirty five yarder,
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it's Connor Hawkins right now. And you know, I think
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they're I think they're just trying to put guys in
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positions right now to see, Okay, how does this guy
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handle a fifty five yarder. If you need a fifty
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five yarder? Who would you send out there for that?
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Yeah? Is it Ryant Pretorius and Aaron Petrie? Uh huh
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we got the kickoff guys. Also a year long field
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goal specialist. So there you go. Look at the offensive
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line depth chart I'm going to if you're watching, I
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