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And welcome into the Buckeye Insiders postgame show. Joining you
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here from the field here at Memorial Stadium in Bloomington, Indiana,
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as the Buckeyes pull off the win 19-15.
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And it wasn't pretty. It didn't need to be.
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19-15 is all it took to break a 22-game winning streak.
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And the defending national champions take their first L in
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a long, long time since, what, 2024? Yeah. when, boy,
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they lost to Notre Dame, and before that, Ohio State.
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So two of their last three losses come to Ohio
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State in a huge game, I thought, for Ryan Day
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coming into this thing. He absolutely could not fall to
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one and two against Kurt Cignetti, who has walked into
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the Big Ten, and all of a sudden, everyone calls
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the best coach in the Big Ten, the best coach
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in college football. Could not happen for Ryan Day, and
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despite him, at times, I thought, maybe making some interesting decisions,
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that weren't helping his cause, and we'll talk about those.
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The Buckeyes did what they had to do today to
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get the win in a really tough environment. The atmosphere
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was amazing. This is the smallest school for a national
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championship winning program since 1990.
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The smallest, I'm sorry, the smallest stadium. 53,000 seats here
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at Memorial Stadium.
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The weather, it was chilly early, and now it's kind
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of warming up, but the crowd was raucous. There were
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not as many It's kind of hard to tell, right,
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with the same kind of color scheme here. They obviously
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wear crimson. Ohio State wears scarlet. And it's hard to tell,
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but when the towels get going, they gave out towels today,
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Tyreek Tucker towels, you could really tell that this was
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a very, very heavily Indiana fan crowd. And it's not
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always like that here in Bloomington. But this was a
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huge game for them. Obviously, their first top five game
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in program history. And they were out in full force.
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And for all the Buckeye fans in the chat who
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aren't feeling so good about this win, I promise you,
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they were all real sad leaving. So you should feel
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pretty good about that. Because a win is a win.
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Survive in advance. And obviously, you've got a bye week now.
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It sounds like there are some injuries. I wasn't able
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to hear the postgame show or the postgame interview with
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Coach Day. So if any of you could tell me
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what you heard about Julian saying as I was setting
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up here, I'm not sure. But... Julian saying we've talked
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about him. We talked about him all week. What was
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he going to do in this game? This was a
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huge game to me for Julian saying, because when you
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look at Julian in the last couple of big games
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against Texas, then against Miami last season and against Indiana
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in the big 10 championship, didn't really play his best
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in those big games.
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And then we see him come out in this game.
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His opportunity to not be a passenger on this team,
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but to be the driver, to be the guy that
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leads this team. And in the first half, I think
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he was about 50% completion percentage.
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His balls were spraying everywhere.
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The guy that is, you know, last year was the
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most accurate quarterback in college football, sans the big games.
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And that was maybe the least accurate I have ever
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seen him play was today in the biggest game.
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Of the year thus far.
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Certainly not an encouraging thing when you look at his
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last four big time games, but certainly the win is
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the win is a win and we'll see how long
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he's out. As any of you guys have an idea, Julian,
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the California crumbler saying, thank you TK for the super chat.
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TK says, they said saying we'll be out several weeks.
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So he has already got a confirmation that he'll be
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out several weeks. That's interesting. That is really quick to
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get confirmation from that. Obviously, I saw the hit, and
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Tony and I rewound that thing and looked at it
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a couple times. And it was Mario Landino, who I
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really liked. That dude's a stud. But he put it
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on him in an awkward position here. And, Justin, you
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guys are something, man. Look, I know that this was
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an ugly win.
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I know it was, guys.
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But a top five win is a top five win.
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We still, I don't think, and I don't think I
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knew coming into this game, how good Indiana was. I
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think that was, I had a hard time predicting what
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I thought might happen in this game because I just
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don't have a handle on how good Indiana is. And
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I think we come out of this game. I still
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don't really know how good Indiana is. And when you
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look at the rest of their schedule, their roughest game
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remaining on their schedule is going to be Michigan next week.
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And there'll be heavy favorites against Michigan, but that is
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the toughest game they got for the rest of the year.
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So they're likely to finish this season. 11-1. As the
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Buckeyes now move to 6-1.
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I don't think we're going to know how good Indiana
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is really until the playoffs. And a lot of that
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dictates how we feel about an Ohio State win, right?
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How good is the opponent? Well, they're good enough to
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be top five.
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The defending champ, they brought back seven of those 11
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guys on defense, and they're.
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Good, man. They're good. What else did we talk about
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all week? Elite movement.
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Tyler Bowen and his offensive line unit. How did you
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think his offensive line unit did with elite movement?
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I'll tell you this.
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They had, they gave up four sacks to Julian saying
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they gave up five last year. So that's an improvement.
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You had filled the annuals and gave Ben sick. Well,
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those two haven't played together since last year against Miami,
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which was a performance so bad. We don't even need
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to get into it, but that's the last time those
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two started together. I actually thought that they weren't terrible today.
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I thought it was an okay performance by both of them.
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They certainly both had errors, right? Big, glaring errors. We
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saw Phil let the fumble happen. He recovered the fumble.
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Props to him for recovering the fumble. But Gabe Van
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Sickle had a couple of penalties. I thought that in
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the blocking game, the worst part of the blocking game
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today was the tight ends. And one of the more
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puzzling things that we did see was last year coming
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out of that Indiana game, The biggest thing that was
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the issue in that game, you were one for four
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trips scoring a touchdown in the red zone last year.
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And we all came out of that game saying, well,
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you used the tight end bonanza strategy, took Jeremiah off
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the field, took your wide receivers off the field, and
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you got three and four tight ends in the red zone.
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And it's almost like there's no chance that's going to
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happen again in this game.
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And boy, did it absolutely happen. It absolutely happened. I
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couldn't believe it. I was stunned.
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They literally had Max LeBlanc, Nate Roberts, and Mason Williams
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paired with Jeremiah. At least Jeremiah was one of the
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four in the first red zone possession. And, of course,
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they had even more over here on this end of
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the field. They brought in Bennett Christian along with those
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three at one point. And for three of the four downs,
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they ended up going for it on fourth and hitting Bowe.
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On fourth down, fourth down was the only one they
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didn't have the tight end Bonanza on the field. They
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actually put the wide receivers on the field, spread it out,
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and what do you know, Bowe's wide open. And that,
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to me, blows my mind. It really blows my mind
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after last year. So some interesting coaching decisions. I thought
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at the end of the game, you're looking at, I
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don't know, man, you're in the biggest spot of the game,
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and they did the defensive line rotation change where you're
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bringing in all the second stringers, Bowe Atkinson, James Smith,
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So that was really odd to me. But surely we
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had some guys here that played some awesome games. I mean,
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you know, there were some interesting coaching decisions. But definitely,
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we certainly want to shout out Jay Timmons when we
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look at our players of the game who's getting those
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Buckeye stickers. Jay Timmons was fantastic with five solo tackles,
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two pass breakups, a forced fumble, and one absolute shot
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where he.
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Could have decapitated somebody.
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And instead, he got him right up underneath his breastbone, which,
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you know, you don't often see young guys like that
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make good decisions like that in the middle of a
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play moving 100 miles an hour.
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So big props to him.
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You know, when you flip around on the other side
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of things and you look at Jermaine Matthews, who is
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a senior, right, the drive of the game, Indiana's got
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the ball, and Jermaine Matthews gets a penalty.
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Now, you can say whatever you want.
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Did he deserve to get a penalty? You don't put
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yourself in the situation for it to even be close
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when you're a senior. And that's the difference, man. Jay
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Timmons is an absolute All-American. He's going to be an
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absolute dude. I mean, he's just fantastic. And he was
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fantastic out there today. He was so good. Also, let's
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shout out Chris Henry Jr. for one of our Buckeye
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Leos here. Chris Henry Jr. comes in, and in the
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first half, I think we had two third-down conversions on
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pass completions. One of them was to Jeremiah. The other
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one was to Chris Henry Jr., and it was a
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sensational catch. And then he had another really good one
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where he sat down in the zone and made sure
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he didn't run through it like you see so many
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young guys. And Julian hit him for that, so that
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was fantastic. In the running game, neither of these teams
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could run. I'm talking, what are the stats here? When
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we look at the running game, we have got 2.1
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yards of carry for Ohio State, 2.5 yards of carry
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for Indiana. hey, whatever, as long as you can hit
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explosives in the passing game, and the Buckeyes hit explosives.
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I don't have the stat broadcast up, which gives me
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the really good explosive stats. Hang on, I got it here.
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So when I was looking at halftime, I think Ohio
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State had six explosives and Indiana had two. Now, after
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the first half, Buckeyes were pretty much leading in every
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statistical category. And then in the second half, Indiana really–
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really tied it up kind of with everything is, Josh Hoover,
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who was just so inaccurate in the first half. I mean,
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I think he, for as inaccurate as Julian was, he
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was even more inaccurate. In the first half today, Hoover
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was maybe 40% completion percentage. He ends up finishing. He
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had a better second half. He was 20 for 40.
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So he improved to 50%. Julian saying was 15 of 29.
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So just a scoach over 50% for Julian saying, who again,
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last year was at this point in time in the
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conversation to set the all time record for accuracy. And
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it was, you know, pushing Will Howard for the most
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games with 80% plus completion percentage. So, really strange when
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we've seen how he's kind of regressed in that department
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as today there was just errant pass after errant pass
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and there was a point where 12 straight or in
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a there was a period of 12 passes he threw
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where he completed two of those 12 passes i think
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it was uh eight incompletions in a row then he
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completed one incompletion completed one then a couple more incompletions
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i mean i don't know i don't know what you
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do with that and and it wasn't guys that were
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you know had super sticky coverage. He was just missing
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balls like we don't see him usually miss. And then
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when you end the game like this with him getting
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knocked out and potentially being out for a couple of weeks,
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and thank goodness there is a bye week.
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Look, the Luke Fahey situation.
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And I'm sure a lot of people want to talk
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about the Luke Fahey situation, and I did see some
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comments about Tabian St.
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Clair. That is obviously not happening, right?
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The Tabian St. Clair is pretty far behind Luke Fahey,
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as far as I understand it. And, you know, you
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would have to be because there's no way this is
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close and you're putting in the true freshman, right? You're
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going to put in a guy who's been in your
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system for a year. If this is close, a guy
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who's bigger and stronger and can run. Now, Fahey can
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run too. And we saw that today. Unfortunately, it was
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a third and 28 or maybe he had a shot.
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But as far as can Fahey play as Mike Sypax,
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I think Fahey can play. He came in in an
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awful spot today, right? What can you expect out of
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him in a spot like this? Again, top five matchup
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in the fourth quarter, starting quarterback gets run out. You're
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a true freshman. The only time he's ever played in
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a game, it's been a blowout against the.
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Mac team, right?
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He's played in two blowouts against the Mac team. And
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in both of those games did very well. Well, this
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is quite a step up, right? Top five game when
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it actually counts. And gosh, man, the way this puppy ended,
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I think that the collective holding of the breath when
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he caught that pass in the end zone here at
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the end of this game was just– you want to
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talk about an ending. That was insane. And you could
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see that Marsh knew immediately that he didn't catch it.
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He put his hands on his head. But all the
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crowd really thought that he caught it at first. As
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XJ thinks that Fahey cannot play.
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I don't know why you think that. If it's just
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off today, I promise you, give him some time. He
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can play.
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Eric Tell says Tyler Bowen can kick rocks. Now, to me,
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this was an absolute show-me game for Tyler Bowen. And,
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you know, we've got to watch the film here before
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you can give a fully accurate assessment. But it was
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a show-me game. We're talking a year and a half
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on the job. Elite movement is what he said they
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struggled with. And today, the elite movement, four sacks, it's
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not good enough. And that's just what it is. I
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don't know what else you can do here with a
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guy like Tyler Bowen who can recruit really good, but
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he needs some help, man, because after this long on
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the job, these same guys should be doing better with
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the same old thing, and I did catch the end
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of Luke Montgomery talking and saying, yeah, we need to
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do better with movement and stuff, and it's just, yeah,
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you do, you do, but you've been saying the same
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thing since last year at this time, last year, Purdue,
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last year, Wisconsin, certainly last year, Wisconsin and Miami, and
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Not good enough.
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It's just not. But there are a lot of things
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that are really good.
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I thought that Edgar Houston played another really good game.
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I thought that Will Smith had a really nice play today.
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I thought Jason Moore had a couple of really nice plays.
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And I'm not quite sure what happened with Kenyatta. We
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did see him go out. He was grabbing his knee.
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And that is certainly concerning because you do not have
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much depth there that you can trust to play and
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come in. without that ceiling dropping considerably, and that is
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a real bummer there. But Kwe Roo saw, once again,
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good in the run game, and that is a revelation.
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Zion Grady, we saw a little bit of him, and
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Zion has not been getting much runs since he's gotten
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back from his injury.
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It was interesting.
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We were talking back when Grady was out and the
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defensive line wasn't performing very well, like, you know, we'll
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wait until Grady gets back, then things will be much better.
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Well, Grady's back. He's not getting much runs.
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I'm interested to see the snap count here, but I
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don't feel like he played too much today. But back
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to some of these stats, I think some of them
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are interesting here. So Bo Jackson did carry the ball
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18 times and Tony and I, and Tom were talking
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in the show last night and we were talking about
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the stat that Tony pulled up. So an Ohio state
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running back gets 20 carries and they've won 31 straight
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over the last 10 years. If an Ohio state back
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gets 30 carries now, Bo Jackson, Had a 12-yarder. He
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averaged 3.1 yards a carry, 56 yards on those 18 carries.
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That's not a great average, but you'll take it, 3.1
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a carry in a game like this, so long as
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you keep the chains moving.
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And a couple times he did.
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I did think there were a couple more times where
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we saw him get out kind of in the open
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field and just kind of run to contact instead of
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try to put a move on somebody. But at this point,
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that just is who Bo is. I don't think that's
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ever going to change. They can try to coach it
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as much as they want to. But, you know, we
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can just be happy when he gets past the linebacker
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because that's all.
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We're going to get. Isaiah West.
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This was in my pregame notes. You know, Isaiah West
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had that play last week against Maryland. And that was
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the one play he played where he didn't pick up
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that block and also didn't give the quarterback a target
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for relief.
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Pick six.
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Looked like he didn't hustle. And a lot of people
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thought because of that, we wouldn't see Isaiah. Now I
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think that Isaiah is a very trusted member of this team.
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He's a really mature young guy. And I certainly thought
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that we would see him today. And we did as
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Isaiah West rushes six times for 45 yards, 7.5 yards
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of carry leading all running backs. He had a long
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of 22. He looked great doing it. And to me,
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Isaiah West needs more run. He needs more run. a
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22 yarder, you know, that bows 20 plus yarder to
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get a touchdown against Maryland last week. I feel like
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it was his longest run in a long, long time.
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Isaiah gets six carries and he pops one just like that.
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Now legend Bay, we did see legend. I thought that
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maybe we would see legend utilized in a different way,
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but we did see legend with three carries for a
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total of six yards. And I tweeted this one. There
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is a, a shot that I tweeted earlier. It's got Legend,
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and he is coming out on a sweep, and you
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have got Bennett Christian, Mason Williams, and Ian Moore all
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chasing their block. The guy they're supposed to be blocking
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is all three of those guys converge on Legend Bay
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for a loss. Again, it comes down to blocking. It
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wasn't anywhere good enough today. It was good enough to win, right?
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But it wasn't good enough in a way that makes
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you feel confident moving forward. They need to get better.
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Jeremiah.
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In a game where I think we all thought that
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Jeremiah would certainly be a massive part of it, if
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Jeremiah doesn't catch that touchdown and bail Julian out, which
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was not a very good pass, I mean, what does
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he have? Because he only finished with four for 68,
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and Julian was sailing him over his head. I think
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he had four targets at halftime. I don't think he
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got involved at all. for geez, it felt like, I
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don't know, Julian had thrown six to eight passes before
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he even was able to get a target to Jeremiah.
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And I guess credit to Indiana. They said that they
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weren't going to let 46 Jones, Isaiah Jones, their linebacker
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from Ohio said, we're not going to get torched by
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the guy who's torching the rest of the country.
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And they didn't, they didn't.
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But Jeremiah came through and you absolutely needed the most.
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That touchdown doesn't hit. And we're probably looking at a
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different result here. So Jeremiah four for 68, you had
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Chris Henry with two receptions guys, just 15 receptions on
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the day.
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I mean, that is terrible.
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Chris Henry with two for 51 Mason Williams, two for 45.
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And he had those early right there on the, there
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was the first two passes of the game. Weren't they
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Mason Williams one and two 45 yards. And that's all
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we saw to him. Devin McEwen two for 23. Nate
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Roberts caught one for 18. Phil Bell, Phil Bell had
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a clutch one for 12 yards. Isaiah West, one for 10.
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Brandon Innes, one for six. And that was a really
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nice catch by B.I. And then Bo Jackson, one for
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two for a total of 235 yards. Now, Indiana on
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the other side, 296 yards passing that this Buckeyes defense
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gave up.
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But they were playing pretty lights out in the first half.
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Or you could say, you know, there were some guys
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running open and Hoover was just missing it. However you
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choose to look at it, I'm going to choose to
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be positive today because we just got a top five win.
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But Charlie Beckers. did catch nine for 165. He's a monster, man.
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He is a monster. Nick Marsh, three for 57 and
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could have potentially given us a very different mood here
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exiting this game. On the defensive side of the ball,
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as I said, they had four sacks. They had six
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total tackles for loss. The Buckeyes had two tackles for
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loss and one sack. So another question I had coming
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into this was Matt Patricia. How aggressive was Matt Patricia
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going to be? And my thought was, and Tony was
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with me here, that you can't play Hoover like you
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played Arch Manning. You don't need to really worry about
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him running as much. He has, you know, it's just
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not what he's done in his career, despite 31 yards
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rushing runs. last week against Nebraska. It's not really who
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he is. So you don't need to play this super
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cautious game. You certainly don't need to drop eight in
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the first series. I believe there were two consecutive passing
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plays where Ohio state only rushed three and dropped eight.
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And it was just like, well, that's ridiculous. And then
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on top of it, he missed wide open receivers. So
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if you're going to drop eight, there better not be
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anybody running wide open.
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And there was now Devin Sanchez. It's strange, man.
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You know, I think we all expected coming into this
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year that Devin Sanchez was certainly not going to be
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a guy that struggled. I think most of us thought
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he was more going to be closer to the all American.
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And I don't think he struggled today, but it is
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strange that we continually to see him kind of be
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the guy that other quarterbacks are throwing at. I didn't
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expect that. He didn't play the best game, but you know,
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it is interesting. Oh, Christian Allegro had that really nice play.
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where he looped around and ended up making Hoover throw
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it out of his hand pretty quick. Now, Ohio State,
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if we're looking at special teams today, I think we
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may be looking at the second week in a row
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where Ohio State won the special team battle.
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Let's see here.
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Joe McGuire with five punts for an average of 44.
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Billy Gowers with four punts, an average of 42.3. And
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I believe we saw Joe McGuire put it inside the
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20 once. I think the other guy did as well.
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But Connor Hawkins, two for two on field goals. Niko
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Radicic on the other side. When Indiana had it, I
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believe it was fourth and six. And their option was
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kick a, was it a 55-yarder, 55-yard attempt? And they
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chose to do that instead of go for it. You
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got to know your kicker, man. I heard that come
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off of his foot. It sounded weak and it was
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10 yards short. So that ended up being a bad
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decision for them. But I was also very nervous when
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we talk about Indiana with Turbo and Lee Beebe as
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these guys have busted off so many explosives this year.
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Indiana's lived on explosives. And I didn't think if they.
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if they didn't hit explosives today, I didn't think they
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were going to be able to consistently move the ball.
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And it turns out that was right. And they didn't
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hit many explosives, but Hoover in the first half was
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six for 15 for 77 yards. When you're playing against
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a quarterback who is six for 15 for 77 yards, man,
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I don't feel like it should be anywhere close to
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be honest.
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He was just bad.
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And I'm, I'm wondering how Indiana fans are feeling. Like
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I know some of the Buckeye fans are feeling bad
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coming out of this as you win. And imagine looking
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at that guy and thinking, man, we got to ride
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the rest of the year with him.
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That was rough.
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That was really, really rough. A few other things before
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we get to your questions here or comments. Once again,
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I thought that Nate Roberts played a really good game.
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We only saw him catch the ball one time.
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I would have liked it if he were targeted more,
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but I thought he played really good in the blocking game.
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I think that he was the only tight end that
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I can say that about. Of course, this is just
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off of watching it from the press box and the
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replays on my computer. I'll have to dig in a
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little more, but I thought Nate played another really good game,
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and the more he gets involved in this offense, the better.
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Certainly now, if you're looking at a couple of games
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where you may have to start Luke Fahey. Now, if
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you got to start Luke Fahey against USC, that may
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be an issue. Um, the Oregon game, you know, they're
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starting to back up today. They may still be starting
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to back up, uh, come their game at Ohio state.
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We'll see how long Dante Moore's out, but these games
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now become, uh, incredibly important.
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Um, they already were, but they, you know, a lot
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scarier now when we, uh.
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Look at them and think that there's a potential of
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no Julian saying for a couple of those games. Um,
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looking at Julian saying on the day 15 to 29
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to 35, two and two, a one 28 rating. And
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I'm really curious to see what it is that's wrong
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with him. I guess he was in a sling. Um,
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I'm getting a message here. He was in a sling
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on the sideline. And if Ryan day is saying that
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he's out for a couple of weeks, doesn't it seem
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like he knows what's going on? Uh, we are going
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to get to hear from Ryan day on Tuesday after practice.
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So Tuesday six is PM and also likely going to get.
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To hear from the coordinators I heard as well. So
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that'll be really interesting.
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But our three points today, as we look at our
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three point stance here and our major points of the
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game here that I take away from this thing is,
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is of course, number one, the streak is over and
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that's it.
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Indiana, Indiana, is.
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Cooked their streak ends 22 games and it's you know,
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it's bound to happen.
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We had our streak snapped. It is what it is.
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And it's a bummer when it happens for, for your team.
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So the fact that the Buckeyes were able to come
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in here into their house and do it is all
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the more impressive. Number two for the Buckeyes, a gritty win.
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That's a real gritty win. Things certainly weren't perfect. I
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don't think it was coached perfect. I think you had
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your quarterback really off today. I think you made some
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interesting decisions as a coaching staff that maybe weren't the
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best in hindsight.
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And we will, of course, talk about those as the
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week goes on.
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We've got a bye week to talk about all this
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stuff and the right time for a bye week. And,
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of course, number three, big questions. I mean, big questions
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moving forward. but that doesn't stop how much you enjoy
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this game. It's top five win and, uh, fantastic here.
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Now let me get to some of your guys' questions
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and comments here. As I start a few here in
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the beginning here, uh, Duke, one of our buddies says, uh,
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I give Jules zero credit.
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He's not the guy he's Bowser. Oh my gosh. You
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did not just compare him to Bowser bombs. Come on, Duke.
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Come on, Duke. Be better, be better than that.
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Uh, We're talking about a guy who last year was
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literally one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the country
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in the history of college football. It's clear something going
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on right now, right? There's something going on. He had
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a really rough game accuracy wise, but he certainly isn't
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Bowser bomb. Our producer shed pulled this up to kind
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of back Duke up. I suppose we don't need to back.
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We don't need to encourage Duke anymore than he already
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is with his Bowser bombs. Ricky Stanton said, we just
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won a top five matchup on the road where our
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starting quarterback got hurt after playing horrible.
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How is that not encouraging?
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I'm assuming he's talking to someone who was not feeling
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encouraged by the game, by how it looked.
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It was nasty.
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But, you know, sometimes we forget, as Ohio State fans,
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we're obviously used to winning. We root for the greatest
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program in the history of college football. The other guys
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are good, too. not only are these guys good, but
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they are coached by the coaching staff that I think
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is probably the best in college football. And they also
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just do everything right. They're always in the right place.
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And when you play a program like this, you have
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to beat them. We don't often see them beat themselves.
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Now you could say, I guess today might be a
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little different with this Josh Hoover situation as this guy.
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I mean, I take away just as much good out
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of this knowing that it's That guy isn't, they're not
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repeating with that guy. That's not happening. Frugal Britches says,
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worried about how far behind Tabian St. Clair is if
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Fahey's short butt is so clearly ahead of him on
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the depth chart. So it's true, Fahey, not a very
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tall guy. But when we talk about a guy who
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is a gunslinger, ball on the money, aggressive quarterback, and
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we've seen that in the little that he's played.
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I mean, he is aggressive. He'll pull the trigger.
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He is better at processing defenses at this point than
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Tabian St.
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Clair is.
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And, you know, honestly, and I did a show about
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this and I, I mean, it sucks to say, but
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when you're looking at the future of this quarterback position,
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I don't know how Tabian fits in anymore, right? If
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you get passed by a younger guy. Now, when we
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look at this offseason, let's say, for instance, Julian saying
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is gone, he's going to go to the NFL. Let's
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just say hypothetically, what are you going to do if
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you're the staff? Are you going to take the risk
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of one of these two guys winning the starting job
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between Luke Fahey and Tabian St.
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Clair?
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And that's who you got to roll with next year?
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Or are you going to get some insurance and bring
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in a top tier quarterback out of the portal? To me,
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that is a no brainer. Like I, I really don't
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want to, I don't want to start a first year guy.
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If I'm Ryan day, unless I'm sure that that is
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the guy. So if there's any doubt, then you definitely
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are going to the portal. Now let's say that's the case.
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You go to the portal. We're talking Tavia and St.
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Claire in year number three, sitting behind this portal guy.
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And then he's got to beat out Fahey the following year.
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That's your number four. It just like his odds of
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being the Ohio state quarterback dropped tremendously. In my opinion,
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when Fahey overtook that number two spot, it doesn't mean
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he can't win it back, but you know, for every
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incremental amount that St. Clair gets better, you would assume
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Fahey will also, you know, get better. So Scott says
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the offensive line plays like their coach. We can saw
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Tyler Bowen is six foot seven, 295 pounds, bro. Mike Ferguson.
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Thank you for the super chat. Mike says in the
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post game, Ryan day stated that surprise transfer quarterback, Will
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Howard will take starting steps at USC. Carla Jenkins. Thank
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you so much, Carla. Carla said, get both Fahey and TSC.
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Also make Chris Henry Jr. wide receiver too. Have him
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on the field with Jeremiah Smith. Carla, need to see more.
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He's ready, right? He's ready. He's making big-time plays.
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He made a really veteran play sitting in the soft
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spot of the zone today. And, you know, that's the
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second play. The first one was just really a great
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athletic play that we know he can make. But that
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second one was a veteran play. It was really a
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good job of him to sit down in the zone
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like that and pick up a first down. So good
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stuff from him for sure. AZ Wolfie says, two of
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the four sacks on Julian Sane were Julian Sane's fault.
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You know what? Maybe true.
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But not just about sacks, if what you're saying is
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trying to defend the offensive line. The offensive line went
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through a boatload of pressures. I don't have the numbers
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offhand yet. Um, but yes, certainly, uh, in a lot
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of those pressures were his fault too. He just had
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a rough game and it was bad. It was bad
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to the point where I was thinking, man, if, if,
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if Ohio state loses this game, I'm thinking about this
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at the end of it and how many people are
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going to be saying, I don't ever want to see
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that guy again. Um, and, and some people clearly are already,
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I think if there was a, an option, here's what
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I think.
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I think if Tavia and St.
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Claire hadn't gotten beaten out by Luke Fahey, that the
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noise right now to play Tabian St. Clair, if everybody
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thought like he's the backup and things are progressing as
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they should, the noise to play him right now would
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be enormous, right? Whether they won or not today.
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Here we go.
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Rolling Cocoa Nut says, we could have given up, but
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we fought to take the gritty W. That's exactly right.
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And again, top five matchup, man. Top five matchup on
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the road. And when we look at the Buckeyes now
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this year, you know, sure, there's some things in flux,
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but You go down to Texas and you play a
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gritty game on the road in a big environment. You
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go to Iowa and you play a gritty game where
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you blow out Iowa on the road in a rough environment. Now,
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a top five matchup at Indiana, gritty win.
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And what does it do? It prepares you.
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You are now prepared moving into the playoffs where last
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year you mowed through a largely weak schedule. and you
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roll into the playoffs where you roll into the big
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10 championship. And then, and then the playoffs against Miami,
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you haven't played any games where you've had to dig deep,
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where you've had to pull it out. And to me,
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outside of the Texas game first game, but really that
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was kind of a total one-off is you didn't really
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play your full offense. Neither did they, to me, this
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kind of season where you've got all these really tough matchups,
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you are so much better for it in the long run.
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You got to learn how to win. Right. We look
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at Indiana against Nebraska last week.
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They played a bad game and they and they won.
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That's what good teams do. They learn how to win.
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And I definitely feel like there's a ton of positive
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to take out of this. And of course, we've got
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a lot of questions coming out of this as well.
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And a lot of it has to do with health
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is we are going to bring in Tom and Tony
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here in a few. And we will kick it over
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to our guys as they're on the field somewhere. They're
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there somewhere. I can see them.
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Gentlemen. How are you? Can you hear me? We got you.
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Can you hear us? You can't hear me. All right.
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We will kick it straight over to them. And I
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will remove myself. Appreciate you guys.
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Thank you, Chuck, for handling the first half. you
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And welcome into the Buckeye Insiders postgame show. Joining you
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here from the field here at Memorial Stadium in Bloomington, Indiana,
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as the Buckeyes pull off the win 19-15.
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And it wasn't pretty. It didn't need to be.
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19-15 is all it took to break a 22-game winning streak.
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And the defending national champions take their first L in
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a long, long time since, what, 2024? Yeah. when, boy,
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they lost to Notre Dame, and before that, Ohio State.
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So two of their last three losses come to Ohio
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State in a huge game, I thought, for Ryan Day
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coming into this thing. He absolutely could not fall to
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one and two against Kurt Cignetti, who has walked into
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the Big Ten, and all of a sudden, everyone calls
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the best coach in the Big Ten, the best coach
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in college football. Could not happen for Ryan Day, and
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despite him, at times, I thought, maybe making some interesting decisions,
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that weren't helping his cause, and we'll talk about those.
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The Buckeyes did what they had to do today to
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get the win in a really tough environment. The atmosphere
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was amazing. This is the smallest school for a national
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championship winning program since 1990.
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The smallest, I'm sorry, the smallest stadium. 53,000 seats here
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at Memorial Stadium.
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The weather, it was chilly early, and now it's kind
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of warming up, but the crowd was raucous. There were
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not as many It's kind of hard to tell, right,
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with the same kind of color scheme here. They obviously
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wear crimson. Ohio State wears scarlet. And it's hard to tell,
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but when the towels get going, they gave out towels today,
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Tyreek Tucker towels, you could really tell that this was
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a very, very heavily Indiana fan crowd. And it's not
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always like that here in Bloomington. But this was a
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huge game for them. Obviously, their first top five game
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in program history. And they were out in full force.
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And for all the Buckeye fans in the chat who
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aren't feeling so good about this win, I promise you,
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they were all real sad leaving. So you should feel
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pretty good about that. Because a win is a win.
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Survive in advance. And obviously, you've got a bye week now.
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It sounds like there are some injuries. I wasn't able
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to hear the postgame show or the postgame interview with
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Coach Day. So if any of you could tell me
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what you heard about Julian saying as I was setting
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up here, I'm not sure. But... Julian saying we've talked
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about him. We talked about him all week. What was
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he going to do in this game? This was a
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huge game to me for Julian saying, because when you
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look at Julian in the last couple of big games
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against Texas, then against Miami last season and against Indiana
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in the big 10 championship, didn't really play his best
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in those big games.
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And then we see him come out in this game.
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His opportunity to not be a passenger on this team,
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but to be the driver, to be the guy that
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leads this team. And in the first half, I think
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he was about 50% completion percentage.
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His balls were spraying everywhere.
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The guy that is, you know, last year was the
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most accurate quarterback in college football, sans the big games.
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And that was maybe the least accurate I have ever
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seen him play was today in the biggest game.
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Of the year thus far.
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Certainly not an encouraging thing when you look at his
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last four big time games, but certainly the win is
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the win is a win and we'll see how long
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he's out. As any of you guys have an idea, Julian,
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the California crumbler saying, thank you TK for the super chat.
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TK says, they said saying we'll be out several weeks.
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So he has already got a confirmation that he'll be
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out several weeks. That's interesting. That is really quick to
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get confirmation from that. Obviously, I saw the hit, and
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Tony and I rewound that thing and looked at it
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a couple times. And it was Mario Landino, who I
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really liked. That dude's a stud. But he put it
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on him in an awkward position here. And, Justin, you
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guys are something, man. Look, I know that this was
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an ugly win.
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I know it was, guys.
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But a top five win is a top five win.
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We still, I don't think, and I don't think I
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knew coming into this game, how good Indiana was. I
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think that was, I had a hard time predicting what
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I thought might happen in this game because I just
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don't have a handle on how good Indiana is. And
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I think we come out of this game. I still
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don't really know how good Indiana is. And when you
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look at the rest of their schedule, their roughest game
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remaining on their schedule is going to be Michigan next week.
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And there'll be heavy favorites against Michigan, but that is
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the toughest game they got for the rest of the year.
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So they're likely to finish this season. 11-1. As the
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Buckeyes now move to 6-1.
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I don't think we're going to know how good Indiana
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is really until the playoffs. And a lot of that
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dictates how we feel about an Ohio State win, right?
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How good is the opponent? Well, they're good enough to
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be top five.
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The defending champ, they brought back seven of those 11
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guys on defense, and they're.
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Good, man. They're good. What else did we talk about
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all week? Elite movement.
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Tyler Bowen and his offensive line unit. How did you
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think his offensive line unit did with elite movement?
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I'll tell you this.
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They had, they gave up four sacks to Julian saying
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they gave up five last year. So that's an improvement.
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You had filled the annuals and gave Ben sick. Well,
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those two haven't played together since last year against Miami,
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which was a performance so bad. We don't even need
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to get into it, but that's the last time those
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two started together. I actually thought that they weren't terrible today.
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I thought it was an okay performance by both of them.
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They certainly both had errors, right? Big, glaring errors. We
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saw Phil let the fumble happen. He recovered the fumble.
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Props to him for recovering the fumble. But Gabe Van
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Sickle had a couple of penalties. I thought that in
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the blocking game, the worst part of the blocking game
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today was the tight ends. And one of the more
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puzzling things that we did see was last year coming
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out of that Indiana game, The biggest thing that was
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the issue in that game, you were one for four
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trips scoring a touchdown in the red zone last year.
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you used the tight end bonanza strategy, took Jeremiah off
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the field, took your wide receivers off the field, and
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you got three and four tight ends in the red zone.
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happen again in this game.
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And boy, did it absolutely happen. It absolutely happened. I
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couldn't believe it. I was stunned.
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They literally had Max LeBlanc, Nate Roberts, and Mason Williams
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paired with Jeremiah. At least Jeremiah was one of the
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four in the first red zone possession. And, of course,
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they had even more over here on this end of
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the field. They brought in Bennett Christian along with those
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three at one point. And for three of the four downs,
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they ended up going for it on fourth and hitting Bowe.
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On fourth down, fourth down was the only one they
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didn't have the tight end Bonanza on the field. They
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actually put the wide receivers on the field, spread it out,
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and what do you know, Bowe's wide open. And that,
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to me, blows my mind. It really blows my mind
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after last year. So some interesting coaching decisions. I thought
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at the end of the game, you're looking at, I
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don't know, man, you're in the biggest spot of the game,
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and they did the defensive line rotation change where you're
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bringing in all the second stringers, Bowe Atkinson, James Smith,
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So that was really odd to me. But surely we
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had some guys here that played some awesome games. I mean,
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you know, there were some interesting coaching decisions. But definitely,
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we certainly want to shout out Jay Timmons when we
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look at our players of the game who's getting those
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Buckeye stickers. Jay Timmons was fantastic with five solo tackles,
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two pass breakups, a forced fumble, and one absolute shot
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where he.
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Could have decapitated somebody.
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you know, you don't often see young guys like that
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make good decisions like that in the middle of a
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play moving 100 miles an hour.
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So big props to him.
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You know, when you flip around on the other side
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of things and you look at Jermaine Matthews, who is
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a senior, right, the drive of the game, Indiana's got
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the ball, and Jermaine Matthews gets a penalty.
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Now, you can say whatever you want.
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Did he deserve to get a penalty? You don't put
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yourself in the situation for it to even be close
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when you're a senior. And that's the difference, man. Jay
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Timmons is an absolute All-American. He's going to be an
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absolute dude. I mean, he's just fantastic. And he was
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fantastic out there today. He was so good. Also, let's
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shout out Chris Henry Jr. for one of our Buckeye
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Leos here. Chris Henry Jr. comes in, and in the
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first half, I think we had two third-down conversions on
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pass completions. One of them was to Jeremiah. The other
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one was to Chris Henry Jr., and it was a
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sensational catch. And then he had another really good one
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where he sat down in the zone and made sure
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he didn't run through it like you see so many
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young guys. And Julian hit him for that, so that
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was fantastic. In the running game, neither of these teams
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could run. I'm talking, what are the stats here? When
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we look at the running game, we have got 2.1
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yards of carry for Ohio State, 2.5 yards of carry
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for Indiana. hey, whatever, as long as you can hit
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explosives in the passing game, and the Buckeyes hit explosives.
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I don't have the stat broadcast up, which gives me
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the really good explosive stats. Hang on, I got it here.
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So when I was looking at halftime, I think Ohio
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State had six explosives and Indiana had two. Now, after
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the first half, Buckeyes were pretty much leading in every
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statistical category. And then in the second half, Indiana really–
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really tied it up kind of with everything is, Josh Hoover,
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who was just so inaccurate in the first half. I mean,
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I think he, for as inaccurate as Julian was, he
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was even more inaccurate. In the first half today, Hoover
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was maybe 40% completion percentage. He ends up finishing. He
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had a better second half. He was 20 for 40.
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So he improved to 50%. Julian saying was 15 of 29.
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So just a scoach over 50% for Julian saying, who again,
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last year was at this point in time in the
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conversation to set the all time record for accuracy. And
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it was, you know, pushing Will Howard for the most
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games with 80% plus completion percentage. So, really strange when
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we've seen how he's kind of regressed in that department
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as today there was just errant pass after errant pass
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and there was a point where 12 straight or in
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a there was a period of 12 passes he threw
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where he completed two of those 12 passes i think
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it was uh eight incompletions in a row then he
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completed one incompletion completed one then a couple more incompletions
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i mean i don't know i don't know what you
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do with that and and it wasn't guys that were
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you know had super sticky coverage. He was just missing
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balls like we don't see him usually miss. And then
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when you end the game like this with him getting
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knocked out and potentially being out for a couple of weeks,
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and thank goodness there is a bye week.
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Look, the Luke Fahey situation.
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about the Luke Fahey situation, and I did see some
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comments about Tabian St.
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Clair. That is obviously not happening, right?
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The Tabian St. Clair is pretty far behind Luke Fahey,
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as far as I understand it. And, you know, you
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would have to be because there's no way this is
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close and you're putting in the true freshman, right? You're
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going to put in a guy who's been in your
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system for a year. If this is close, a guy
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who's bigger and stronger and can run. Now, Fahey can
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run too. And we saw that today. Unfortunately, it was
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a third and 28 or maybe he had a shot.
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I think Fahey can play. He came in in an
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awful spot today, right? What can you expect out of
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him in a spot like this? Again, top five matchup
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in the fourth quarter, starting quarterback gets run out. You're
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a true freshman. The only time he's ever played in
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a game, it's been a blowout against the.
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Mac team, right?
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He's played in two blowouts against the Mac team. And
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in both of those games did very well. Well, this
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is quite a step up, right? Top five game when
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it actually counts. And gosh, man, the way this puppy ended,
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I think that the collective holding of the breath when
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he caught that pass in the end zone here at
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the end of this game was just– you want to
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talk about an ending. That was insane. And you could
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see that Marsh knew immediately that he didn't catch it.
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He put his hands on his head. But all the
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crowd really thought that he caught it at first. As
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XJ thinks that Fahey cannot play.
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I don't know why you think that. If it's just
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off today, I promise you, give him some time. He
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can play.
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Eric Tell says Tyler Bowen can kick rocks. Now, to me,
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this was an absolute show-me game for Tyler Bowen. And,
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you know, we've got to watch the film here before
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you can give a fully accurate assessment. But it was
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a show-me game. We're talking a year and a half
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on the job. Elite movement is what he said they
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struggled with. And today, the elite movement, four sacks, it's
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not good enough. And that's just what it is. I
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don't know what else you can do here with a
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guy like Tyler Bowen who can recruit really good, but
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he needs some help, man, because after this long on
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the job, these same guys should be doing better with
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the same old thing, and I did catch the end
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of Luke Montgomery talking and saying, yeah, we need to
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do better with movement and stuff, and it's just, yeah,
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you do, you do, but you've been saying the same
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thing since last year at this time, last year, Purdue,
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last year, Wisconsin, certainly last year, Wisconsin and Miami, and
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Not good enough.
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It's just not. But there are a lot of things
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that are really good.
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I thought that Edgar Houston played another really good game.
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I thought that Will Smith had a really nice play today.
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I thought Jason Moore had a couple of really nice plays.
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did see him go out. He was grabbing his knee.
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much depth there that you can trust to play and
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come in. without that ceiling dropping considerably, and that is
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a real bummer there. But Kwe Roo saw, once again,
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good in the run game, and that is a revelation.
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Zion Grady, we saw a little bit of him, and
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Zion has not been getting much runs since he's gotten
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back from his injury.
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It was interesting.
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We were talking back when Grady was out and the
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defensive line wasn't performing very well, like, you know, we'll
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wait until Grady gets back, then things will be much better.
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Well, Grady's back. He's not getting much runs.
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I'm interested to see the snap count here, but I
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don't feel like he played too much today. But back
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to some of these stats, I think some of them
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are interesting here. So Bo Jackson did carry the ball
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18 times and Tony and I, and Tom were talking
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in the show last night and we were talking about
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the stat that Tony pulled up. So an Ohio state
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running back gets 20 carries and they've won 31 straight
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over the last 10 years. If an Ohio state back
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gets 30 carries now, Bo Jackson, Had a 12-yarder. He
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averaged 3.1 yards a carry, 56 yards on those 18 carries.
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That's not a great average, but you'll take it, 3.1
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a carry in a game like this, so long as
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you keep the chains moving.
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And a couple times he did.
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I did think there were a couple more times where
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we saw him get out kind of in the open
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field and just kind of run to contact instead of
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try to put a move on somebody. But at this point,
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that just is who Bo is. I don't think that's
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ever going to change. They can try to coach it
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as much as they want to. But, you know, we
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can just be happy when he gets past the linebacker
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because that's all.
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We're going to get. Isaiah West.
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This was in my pregame notes. You know, Isaiah West
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had that play last week against Maryland. And that was
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the one play he played where he didn't pick up
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that block and also didn't give the quarterback a target
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for relief.
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Pick six.
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Looked like he didn't hustle. And a lot of people
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thought because of that, we wouldn't see Isaiah. Now I
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think that Isaiah is a very trusted member of this team.
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He's a really mature young guy. And I certainly thought
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that we would see him today. And we did as
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Isaiah West rushes six times for 45 yards, 7.5 yards
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of carry leading all running backs. He had a long
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of 22. He looked great doing it. And to me,
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Isaiah West needs more run. He needs more run. a
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22 yarder, you know, that bows 20 plus yarder to
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get a touchdown against Maryland last week. I feel like
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it was his longest run in a long, long time.
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Isaiah gets six carries and he pops one just like that.
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Now legend Bay, we did see legend. I thought that
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maybe we would see legend utilized in a different way,
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but we did see legend with three carries for a
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total of six yards. And I tweeted this one. There
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is a, a shot that I tweeted earlier. It's got Legend,
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and he is coming out on a sweep, and you
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have got Bennett Christian, Mason Williams, and Ian Moore all
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chasing their block. The guy they're supposed to be blocking
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is all three of those guys converge on Legend Bay
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for a loss. Again, it comes down to blocking. It
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wasn't anywhere good enough today. It was good enough to win, right?
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But it wasn't good enough in a way that makes
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you feel confident moving forward. They need to get better.
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Jeremiah.
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In a game where I think we all thought that
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Jeremiah would certainly be a massive part of it, if
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Jeremiah doesn't catch that touchdown and bail Julian out, which
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was not a very good pass, I mean, what does
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he have? Because he only finished with four for 68,
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and Julian was sailing him over his head. I think
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he had four targets at halftime. I don't think he
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got involved at all. for geez, it felt like, I
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don't know, Julian had thrown six to eight passes before
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he even was able to get a target to Jeremiah.
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And I guess credit to Indiana. They said that they
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weren't going to let 46 Jones, Isaiah Jones, their linebacker
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from Ohio said, we're not going to get torched by
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the guy who's torching the rest of the country.
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And they didn't, they didn't.
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But Jeremiah came through and you absolutely needed the most.
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That touchdown doesn't hit. And we're probably looking at a
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different result here. So Jeremiah four for 68, you had
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Chris Henry with two receptions guys, just 15 receptions on
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the day.
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I mean, that is terrible.
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Chris Henry with two for 51 Mason Williams, two for 45.
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And he had those early right there on the, there
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was the first two passes of the game. Weren't they
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Mason Williams one and two 45 yards. And that's all
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we saw to him. Devin McEwen two for 23. Nate
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Roberts caught one for 18. Phil Bell, Phil Bell had
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a clutch one for 12 yards. Isaiah West, one for 10.
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Brandon Innes, one for six. And that was a really
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nice catch by B.I. And then Bo Jackson, one for
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two for a total of 235 yards. Now, Indiana on
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the other side, 296 yards passing that this Buckeyes defense
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gave up.
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But they were playing pretty lights out in the first half.
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Or you could say, you know, there were some guys
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running open and Hoover was just missing it. However you
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choose to look at it, I'm going to choose to
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be positive today because we just got a top five win.
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But Charlie Beckers. did catch nine for 165. He's a monster, man.
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He is a monster. Nick Marsh, three for 57 and
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could have potentially given us a very different mood here
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exiting this game. On the defensive side of the ball,
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as I said, they had four sacks. They had six
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total tackles for loss. The Buckeyes had two tackles for
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loss and one sack. So another question I had coming
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into this was Matt Patricia. How aggressive was Matt Patricia
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going to be? And my thought was, and Tony was
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with me here, that you can't play Hoover like you
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played Arch Manning. You don't need to really worry about
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him running as much. He has, you know, it's just
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not what he's done in his career, despite 31 yards
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rushing runs. last week against Nebraska. It's not really who
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he is. So you don't need to play this super
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cautious game. You certainly don't need to drop eight in
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the first series. I believe there were two consecutive passing
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plays where Ohio state only rushed three and dropped eight.
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And it was just like, well, that's ridiculous. And then
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on top of it, he missed wide open receivers. So
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if you're going to drop eight, there better not be
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anybody running wide open.
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And there was now Devin Sanchez. It's strange, man.
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You know, I think we all expected coming into this
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year that Devin Sanchez was certainly not going to be
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a guy that struggled. I think most of us thought
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he was more going to be closer to the all American.
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And I don't think he struggled today, but it is
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strange that we continually to see him kind of be
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the guy that other quarterbacks are throwing at. I didn't
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expect that. He didn't play the best game, but you know,
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it is interesting. Oh, Christian Allegro had that really nice play.
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where he looped around and ended up making Hoover throw
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it out of his hand pretty quick. Now, Ohio State,
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if we're looking at special teams today, I think we
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may be looking at the second week in a row
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where Ohio State won the special team battle.
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Let's see here.
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Joe McGuire with five punts for an average of 44.
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Billy Gowers with four punts, an average of 42.3. And
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I believe we saw Joe McGuire put it inside the
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20 once. I think the other guy did as well.
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But Connor Hawkins, two for two on field goals. Niko
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Radicic on the other side. When Indiana had it, I
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believe it was fourth and six. And their option was
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kick a, was it a 55-yarder, 55-yard attempt? And they
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chose to do that instead of go for it. You
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got to know your kicker, man. I heard that come
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off of his foot. It sounded weak and it was
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10 yards short. So that ended up being a bad
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decision for them. But I was also very nervous when
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we talk about Indiana with Turbo and Lee Beebe as
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these guys have busted off so many explosives this year.
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Indiana's lived on explosives. And I didn't think if they.
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if they didn't hit explosives today, I didn't think they
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were going to be able to consistently move the ball.
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And it turns out that was right. And they didn't
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hit many explosives, but Hoover in the first half was
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six for 15 for 77 yards. When you're playing against
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a quarterback who is six for 15 for 77 yards, man,
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I don't feel like it should be anywhere close to
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be honest.
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He was just bad.
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And I'm, I'm wondering how Indiana fans are feeling. Like
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I know some of the Buckeye fans are feeling bad
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coming out of this as you win. And imagine looking
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at that guy and thinking, man, we got to ride
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the rest of the year with him.
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That was rough.
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That was really, really rough. A few other things before
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we get to your questions here or comments. Once again,
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I thought that Nate Roberts played a really good game.
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We only saw him catch the ball one time.
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I would have liked it if he were targeted more,
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but I thought he played really good in the blocking game.
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I think that he was the only tight end that
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I can say that about. Of course, this is just
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off of watching it from the press box and the
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replays on my computer. I'll have to dig in a
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little more, but I thought Nate played another really good game,
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and the more he gets involved in this offense, the better.
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Certainly now, if you're looking at a couple of games
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where you may have to start Luke Fahey. Now, if
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you got to start Luke Fahey against USC, that may
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be an issue. Um, the Oregon game, you know, they're
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starting to back up today. They may still be starting
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to back up, uh, come their game at Ohio state.
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We'll see how long Dante Moore's out, but these games
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now become, uh, incredibly important.
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Um, they already were, but they, you know, a lot
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scarier now when we, uh.
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Look at them and think that there's a potential of
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no Julian saying for a couple of those games. Um,
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looking at Julian saying on the day 15 to 29
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to 35, two and two, a one 28 rating. And
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I'm really curious to see what it is that's wrong
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with him. I guess he was in a sling. Um,
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I'm getting a message here. He was in a sling
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on the sideline. And if Ryan day is saying that
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he's out for a couple of weeks, doesn't it seem
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like he knows what's going on? Uh, we are going
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to get to hear from Ryan day on Tuesday after practice.
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So Tuesday six is PM and also likely going to get.
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To hear from the coordinators I heard as well. So
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that'll be really interesting.
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But our three points today, as we look at our
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three point stance here and our major points of the
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game here that I take away from this thing is,
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is of course, number one, the streak is over and
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that's it.
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Indiana, Indiana, is.
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Cooked their streak ends 22 games and it's you know,
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it's bound to happen.
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We had our streak snapped. It is what it is.
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And it's a bummer when it happens for, for your team.
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So the fact that the Buckeyes were able to come
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in here into their house and do it is all
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the more impressive. Number two for the Buckeyes, a gritty win.
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That's a real gritty win. Things certainly weren't perfect. I
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don't think it was coached perfect. I think you had
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your quarterback really off today. I think you made some
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interesting decisions as a coaching staff that maybe weren't the
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best in hindsight.
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And we will, of course, talk about those as the
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week goes on.
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We've got a bye week to talk about all this
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stuff and the right time for a bye week. And,
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of course, number three, big questions. I mean, big questions
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moving forward. but that doesn't stop how much you enjoy
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this game. It's top five win and, uh, fantastic here.
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Now let me get to some of your guys' questions
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and comments here. As I start a few here in
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the beginning here, uh, Duke, one of our buddies says, uh,
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I give Jules zero credit.
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He's not the guy he's Bowser. Oh my gosh. You
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did not just compare him to Bowser bombs. Come on, Duke.
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Come on, Duke. Be better, be better than that.
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Uh, We're talking about a guy who last year was
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literally one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the country
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in the history of college football. It's clear something going
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on right now, right? There's something going on. He had
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a really rough game accuracy wise, but he certainly isn't
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Bowser bomb. Our producer shed pulled this up to kind
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of back Duke up. I suppose we don't need to back.
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We don't need to encourage Duke anymore than he already
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is with his Bowser bombs. Ricky Stanton said, we just
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won a top five matchup on the road where our
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starting quarterback got hurt after playing horrible.
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How is that not encouraging?
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I'm assuming he's talking to someone who was not feeling
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encouraged by the game, by how it looked.
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It was nasty.
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But, you know, sometimes we forget, as Ohio State fans,
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we're obviously used to winning. We root for the greatest
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program in the history of college football. The other guys
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are good, too. not only are these guys good, but
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they are coached by the coaching staff that I think
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is probably the best in college football. And they also
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just do everything right. They're always in the right place.
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And when you play a program like this, you have
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to beat them. We don't often see them beat themselves.
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Now you could say, I guess today might be a
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little different with this Josh Hoover situation as this guy.
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I mean, I take away just as much good out
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of this knowing that it's That guy isn't, they're not
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repeating with that guy. That's not happening. Frugal Britches says,
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worried about how far behind Tabian St. Clair is if
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Fahey's short butt is so clearly ahead of him on
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the depth chart. So it's true, Fahey, not a very
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tall guy. But when we talk about a guy who
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is a gunslinger, ball on the money, aggressive quarterback, and
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we've seen that in the little that he's played.
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I mean, he is aggressive. He'll pull the trigger.
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He is better at processing defenses at this point than
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Tabian St.
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Clair is.
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And, you know, honestly, and I did a show about
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this and I, I mean, it sucks to say, but
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when you're looking at the future of this quarterback position,
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I don't know how Tabian fits in anymore, right? If
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you get passed by a younger guy. Now, when we
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look at this offseason, let's say, for instance, Julian saying
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is gone, he's going to go to the NFL. Let's
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just say hypothetically, what are you going to do if
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you're the staff? Are you going to take the risk
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of one of these two guys winning the starting job
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between Luke Fahey and Tabian St.
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Clair?
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And that's who you got to roll with next year?
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Or are you going to get some insurance and bring
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in a top tier quarterback out of the portal? To me,
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that is a no brainer. Like I, I really don't
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want to, I don't want to start a first year guy.
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If I'm Ryan day, unless I'm sure that that is
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the guy. So if there's any doubt, then you definitely
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are going to the portal. Now let's say that's the case.
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You go to the portal. We're talking Tavia and St.
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Claire in year number three, sitting behind this portal guy.
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And then he's got to beat out Fahey the following year.
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That's your number four. It just like his odds of
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being the Ohio state quarterback dropped tremendously. In my opinion,
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when Fahey overtook that number two spot, it doesn't mean
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he can't win it back, but you know, for every
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incremental amount that St. Clair gets better, you would assume
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Fahey will also, you know, get better. So Scott says
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the offensive line plays like their coach. We can saw
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Tyler Bowen is six foot seven, 295 pounds, bro. Mike Ferguson.
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Thank you for the super chat. Mike says in the
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post game, Ryan day stated that surprise transfer quarterback, Will
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Howard will take starting steps at USC. Carla Jenkins. Thank
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you so much, Carla. Carla said, get both Fahey and TSC.
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Also make Chris Henry Jr. wide receiver too. Have him
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on the field with Jeremiah Smith. Carla, need to see more.
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He's ready, right? He's ready. He's making big-time plays.
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He made a really veteran play sitting in the soft
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spot of the zone today. And, you know, that's the
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second play. The first one was just really a great
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athletic play that we know he can make. But that
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second one was a veteran play. It was really a
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good job of him to sit down in the zone
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like that and pick up a first down. So good
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stuff from him for sure. AZ Wolfie says, two of
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the four sacks on Julian Sane were Julian Sane's fault.
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You know what? Maybe true.
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But not just about sacks, if what you're saying is
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trying to defend the offensive line. The offensive line went
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through a boatload of pressures. I don't have the numbers
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offhand yet. Um, but yes, certainly, uh, in a lot
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of those pressures were his fault too. He just had
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a rough game and it was bad. It was bad
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to the point where I was thinking, man, if, if,
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if Ohio state loses this game, I'm thinking about this
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at the end of it and how many people are
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going to be saying, I don't ever want to see
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that guy again. Um, and, and some people clearly are already,
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I think if there was a, an option, here's what
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I think.
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I think if Tavia and St.
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Claire hadn't gotten beaten out by Luke Fahey, that the
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noise right now to play Tabian St. Clair, if everybody
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thought like he's the backup and things are progressing as
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they should, the noise to play him right now would
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be enormous, right? Whether they won or not today.
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Here we go.
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Rolling Cocoa Nut says, we could have given up, but
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we fought to take the gritty W. That's exactly right.
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And again, top five matchup, man. Top five matchup on
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the road. And when we look at the Buckeyes now
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this year, you know, sure, there's some things in flux,
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but You go down to Texas and you play a
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gritty game on the road in a big environment. You
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go to Iowa and you play a gritty game where
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you blow out Iowa on the road in a rough environment. Now,
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a top five matchup at Indiana, gritty win.
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And what does it do? It prepares you.
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You are now prepared moving into the playoffs where last
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year you mowed through a largely weak schedule. and you
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roll into the playoffs where you roll into the big
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10 championship. And then, and then the playoffs against Miami,
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you haven't played any games where you've had to dig deep,
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where you've had to pull it out. And to me,
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outside of the Texas game first game, but really that
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was kind of a total one-off is you didn't really
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play your full offense. Neither did they, to me, this
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kind of season where you've got all these really tough matchups,
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you are so much better for it in the long run.
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You got to learn how to win. Right. We look
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at Indiana against Nebraska last week.
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They played a bad game and they and they won.
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That's what good teams do. They learn how to win.
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And I definitely feel like there's a ton of positive
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to take out of this. And of course, we've got
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a lot of questions coming out of this as well.
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And a lot of it has to do with health
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is we are going to bring in Tom and Tony
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here in a few. And we will kick it over
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to our guys as they're on the field somewhere. They're
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there somewhere. I can see them.
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Gentlemen. How are you? Can you hear me? We got you.
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Can you hear us? You can't hear me. All right.
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We will kick it straight over to them. And I
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will remove myself. Appreciate you guys.
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Thank you, Chuck, for handling the first half. you
