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Hello, this is Oskar from Ambush, and you're listening to
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the Brutally Delicious Podcast.
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This is 70,000 tons of metal, the.
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Original but world's biggest heavy metal cruise. 60 bands, four days,
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one cruise ship, only 3,000 tickets. It's like having an
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all-access backstage pass. January 29th to February 2nd, 2026.
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From Miami, Florida.
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To Nassau, the Bahamas and back.
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70,000 tons of metal.
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What are you doing next winter? Hey, man.
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Hello, Bruce.
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How are you, my friend?
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I couldn't be better. I finished work and looking forward
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to watch some football. Sweden is playing against Kosovo.
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Oh, nice.
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I guess in the United States it's soccer.
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Soccer, right.
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We call it football.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. How are you, Benny? Doing all right? Huh?
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Doing okay, Ben?
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Oh, yes.
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Ready to go?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So let's just jump in. The record came out, even
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all the mentions, what, like three days ago, right? Two
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days ago?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. What's been the response to it so far?
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I mean, overwhelming in many ways. I mean, got so
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many positive comments about the album. And I mean... We ourselves,
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we think it's some good shit, but it feels so
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good to know that the fans appreciated it.
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So, yeah, only positives so far. I know my reviewer, Dark,
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he absolutely loves it. Every time I talk to him,
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I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm listening
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to it again.
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He loves it. Yeah, I mean, we are so happy
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with the response. That's good. Yeah, we hope it continues
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so people don't get tired of it.
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Right.
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No, that's great. And now that it's out there, are
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you guys taking this on the road?
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Yeah, we will head out in Europe in September and October.
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We head out together with Angel Witch in October.
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That would be amazing.
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Angel Witch are like legends of ours, so it would
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be amazing to play with them. And in November we
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head out in South America for three weeks, so it
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will be a busy autumn, so That's great. We're spending
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some cozy time at home now, just resting, charging the batteries.
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Have you ever been to South America?
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Oh yeah, we've been there. We did three tours in
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South America, so.
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Everything I've heard about it is pretty... Their fans are
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kind of crazy, right? They're really rabid fans for metal.
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Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, they wear the heart on
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their sleeve.
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Yeah.
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Passion and.
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I love the culture. I mean... There are different cultures
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in South America, but all of them are like united
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in passion and dedication for heavy metal. So wherever we go,
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there is a big party, I said.
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Yeah, too bad it's not going to be here. I
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know it's getting more and more difficult to come to
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the States. Difficult, but manageable. We have to make it happen.
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I mean, we haven't played in the United States since 2016.
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I think we played in Chicago at Ragnarokker.
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Oh, yeah.
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Uh but since then we we haven't played in the
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united states so let's hope that trump allows us to
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to come.
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In yes right on so um shit i just lost
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my train of thought oh yeah is there something you
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want your fans to walk away from after listening to
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this record even in all dimensions is there an overarching message.
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I think our intention was to span all the emotions
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in one album. And I hope you leave the album
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with a taste for more, of course. But also that
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you've been through a little dynamic rollercoaster with the album
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and not just one line.
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Well, let's talk about that for a second. That's an art,
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I think, that's been lost, right? That sequencing thing. Because
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when you sit down, you could write all these songs,
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but if you don't have them, I think, in the
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right order, they may not have the exact impact you have, right?
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Because you want to tell a story and take fans
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on a journey.
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Yeah, I mean, nowadays the modern way of listening to
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music is maybe not what we... are grown up with
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right we're grown up with listening to an entire album
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and trying to yeah trying to get what the artist
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is trying to do um so that is actually what
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we we tried to do on this record but also
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that every song should be uh independent and be able
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to stand alone right so not only it should fit
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on an album it should also stand alone so We
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tried to think in a little bit more modern way
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this time also.
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And that's a bit difficult, right? Because you got to
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straddle that balance between what we grew up in liking
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and then the modern day world. So these people are
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listening to those singles.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's very difficult. But I think if you
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start with a good song and good hooks, I mean,
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if you get the feeling, then it's going to be
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a good song, no matter if it has a context
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or not. But I think, for me, it's so much
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more valuable when you have an entire album that is
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telling a story.
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You said it. I also think, like, this record goes from, like,
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blistering intensity into, like, you know, emotional, almost ballad-type stuff.
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Is that hard to balance that as well?
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We always thought it was hard to balance it. But
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for this album, I think we... We allowed ourselves to
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be a little bit vulnerable maybe, a little bit more
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fragile to show another side of ambush.
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Right.
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That has always been there, but maybe we weren't able
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to manifest it in a way on the earlier records.
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Do you ever feel like you're too vulnerable? Yeah, do
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you ever feel you're too vulnerable? Sorry, I stepped on you.
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We got a delay. Oh, no, no problem.
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I mean too vulnerable i don't think in in music
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in art if you're expressing an emotion you should make
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it extreme you should turn everything to the extreme and
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if you have something to say you should say it
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out loud or if you if you feel that you're
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emotionally down you should be extremely down you should Get
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something positive out of your emotion span and emotion spectra.
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I believe in that. So it's when you feel very
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strong for something, then good stuff will come out. No
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matter if it's negative or positive, good stuff will always.
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Come out of it. Sort of like when you're in
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high school and you break up with your girlfriend and
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you play that sad song over and over again from
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Poison or someone.
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Yeah, I mean, no matter if you listen, if you
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say you listen to black metal, death metal, we're all
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human beings. We are pretty much programmed in the same way.
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We have emotions, at least most of us.
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Right.
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On this album, we allowed ourselves to go deeper into
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the different emotions, maybe, and also to express... Our music
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in a more extreme way towards.
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And I think in the end that makes it more
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organic and more real and more relatable, right? To the
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final listener?
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I sure think so. I mean, this is the first
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record that I can clearly say that I can listen
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through the whole record. And I think it's... I'm proud
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of this record. The earlier records, of course, I've been
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proud of them. But it was not something that I
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actually could listen to because, you know.
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I don't like to listen to myself singing. But on
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this record, I'm so proud of what I've done with
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regards to singing. I'm so proud of the boys, how
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they play, how they swing in some of these songs.
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And I'm also proud that we dared to touch certain
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sensitive subjects. That we dared to show that we're not
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only tough guys, you know. We also have a sensitive
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side and we are human beings. So I'm very proud
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of this.
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Did you go into the record having discussed those scenarios?
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You know, that deep, dark stuff? Or did it just
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sort of kind of happen while you were writing? Does
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that make sense?
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Yeah, it's an interesting question because I never... I never
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told the guys, but I had the feeling when I
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wrote the lyrics for this album that this is going
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to be something a little bit different, but we'll keep
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the styles, like the imagery and the aesthetics.
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Of it all.
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We must keep, because this is Ambush, but we can
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touch a little bit more sensitive subjects on this album,
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I thought. Maybe not make it meat and potato this
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time only. let's touch some subjects that are important of today.
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Okay. So I'm going to step outside the box then
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because I'd like to just end. some not ordinary questions
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just for the hell of it if you don't mind.
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Of course. Shoot. Imagine the characters in your songs come
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to life for one night, one show, whatever it is.
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What kind of epic metal themed adventure would you want
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to lead them on?
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So The characters in the songs.
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Okay, so... For example... In the Evil in All Dimensions song...
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It's about a nightmare, so... It's basically a... A real character. And...
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It tells pretty much the story in the music video...
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What it's about to... What is about to happen. But
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it's like when you... When I add... Characters from the
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other songs. Let me see the Reaper for example That
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is actually a dead person trying to reach to his
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beloved widow and Yeah, well I kind of lost my
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thread here what was the context I would put them
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in the characters and.
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What kind of metal-themed adventure would you take them on?
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I would take them to Roller Coaster Amusement Park. I
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would take them all. And I would buy them ice cream.
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Fair enough. Sorry, I know they're kind of wacky, but
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I like to be a little different. If you had
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to choose an animal mascot that embodies the spirit of Ambush...
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Especially the new ambush coming from this record. What would
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it be and why?
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It would be Vildvittra. It is an old Norse folkloric
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animal that is like a combination between a human and
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an eagle. And this is the reason why we have
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it on the cover. So it's called Vildvittra.
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Perfect. Yeah.
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It kind of... It's a symbol of fear and evil
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at the same time, but it still has some human aspects,
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which makes it relatable. Right.
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No, no, I get that. And I mean, I think even,
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you know, evil in all dimensions, even the title is
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appropriate to the world we're living in at the moment,
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even if you go no deeper, right?
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Pretty much so, and... Even if you think you are good,
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there are people that think you're evil. So no matter what,
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we are all evil in each other's perspective. But we
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are advocates of reason and trying to not view other
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people as evil. I don't think there are evil people.
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I just think that there are people that... Make shitty decisions?
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I think from each and everyone's perspective, we.
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Are all good. I agree with you, yes. I believe
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in the common goodness of humanity, right?
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So I think it's up to all human beings to
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crack the code how to cooperate and to work together
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instead of throwing shit at each other.
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So can I just stay here for a second or
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are you not comfortable with this?
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I am definitely uncomfortable.
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How do you solve this? We're so far off track.
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How do we get back?
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I actually read a book last week. I read The
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Alchemist by Paolo Coelho.
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Oh, what a great book. And I just talked to
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a band, a black metal band. Geez, I don't remember
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their name now. They're from overseas, somewhere near you, Germany
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or somewhere over there. And they wrote their whole record
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on it.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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I'll have to email it to you because I don't remember.
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I'm drawing a blank right now. I talked to so
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many people, but yeah.
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I mean, I'm not into New Age and stuff like that.
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Yeah, right.
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That book is truly genius in its way of describing
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how we can look at the world from different angles
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and different views. But it's all about trying to find
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your destiny and letting other people find their destinies as well.
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of anti-popular gathering, right? Because in the metal community, for
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the most part, it doesn't matter who you are, like...
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what race you are, what religion you are, what sex
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you are, who you are. Nobody gives a fuck, right?
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the world, we'd be in a much better place.
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see that there are people from all social backgrounds. There
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are people that didn't have the money in the first
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place to pay for the tickets. And then you talk
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with another person and he owns a big enterprise. So
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it's the best sphere for communication, really. Because right now,
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can meet people from different backgrounds. The unjudgmental. Exactly. We
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are all there, like you said, around the riff. We
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are there to honor the heavy metal gods. Not to
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flash your political views or religious views. We're there for
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heavy metal. Right.
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beliefs and your own systems, then you got to let
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everybody else do it too. You know, whether it's anti-religious
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or not, I don't have to agree with your principle,
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but I could still have a beer with you and
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listen to Sabbath.
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Yeah. Never obstruct another person's destiny or desire to reach
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their goals. It's beautiful.
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That is great. Yeah. Wow. Chills. What's next for Ambush, then?
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I know I took you totally off the rails, but...
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I mean, next for us, we don't know. But we
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know that we're going on tour.
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That we know. We have a desire to do something
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with this band and with this chance that we've got.
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We signed with a big label.
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It feels like we have all the possibilities. But we
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also need... Time. We need to take care of each other.
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We need to make good decisions.
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And we need the fans to support us all the way.
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And then we will go how far we can get.
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I don't care. I just enjoy the ride and I
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love to play with my best friends.
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Yeah. That's beautiful. That's going to bring me to the end.
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I don't even know what to say. I mean, you
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guys have everything going for you. The record's killer. Great attitudes.
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I mean, I think... Maybe the stars are aligned.
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Hopefully. As I said, I'm not new age, but I
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start to.
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Believe in some... Right, little things along the way.
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That's all I've got.
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I hope that wasn't too bad. I mean, beautiful interview.
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Thank you, Bruce.
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Good luck with the record. I'm a fan. I know
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we're a fan of the show, so good luck.
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I'm a fan of you now also.
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Take care, my friend.
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Stay safe.
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Cheers.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Hello, this is Oskar from Ambush, and you're listening to
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the Brutally Delicious Podcast.
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This is 70,000 tons of metal, the.
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Original but world's biggest heavy metal cruise. 60 bands, four days,
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one cruise ship, only 3,000 tickets. It's like having an
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all-access backstage pass. January 29th to February 2nd, 2026.
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From Miami, Florida.
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To Nassau, the Bahamas and back.
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70,000 tons of metal.
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What are you doing next winter? Hey, man.
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Hello, Bruce.
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How are you, my friend?
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I couldn't be better. I finished work and looking forward
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to watch some football. Sweden is playing against Kosovo.
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Oh, nice.
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I guess in the United States it's soccer.
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Soccer, right.
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We call it football.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. How are you, Benny? Doing all right? Huh?
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Doing okay, Ben?
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Oh, yes.
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Ready to go?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So let's just jump in. The record came out, even
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all the mentions, what, like three days ago, right? Two
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days ago?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. What's been the response to it so far?
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I mean, overwhelming in many ways. I mean, got so
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many positive comments about the album. And I mean... We ourselves,
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we think it's some good shit, but it feels so
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good to know that the fans appreciated it.
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he absolutely loves it. Every time I talk to him,
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I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm listening
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to it again.
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with the response. That's good. Yeah, we hope it continues
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so people don't get tired of it.
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No, that's great. And now that it's out there, are
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you guys taking this on the road?
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Yeah, we will head out in Europe in September and October.
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We head out together with Angel Witch in October.
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That would be amazing.
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Angel Witch are like legends of ours, so it would
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be amazing to play with them. And in November we
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head out in South America for three weeks, so it
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will be a busy autumn, so That's great. We're spending
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some cozy time at home now, just resting, charging the batteries.
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South America, so.
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kind of crazy, right? They're really rabid fans for metal.
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Passion and.
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I love the culture. I mean... There are different cultures
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in South America, but all of them are like united
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in passion and dedication for heavy metal. So wherever we go,
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there is a big party, I said.
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the States. Difficult, but manageable. We have to make it happen.
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I mean, we haven't played in the United States since 2016.
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united states so let's hope that trump allows us to
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In yes right on so um shit i just lost
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my train of thought oh yeah is there something you
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want your fans to walk away from after listening to
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this record even in all dimensions is there an overarching message.
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in one album. And I hope you leave the album
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with a taste for more, of course. But also that
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you've been through a little dynamic rollercoaster with the album
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and not just one line.
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when you sit down, you could write all these songs,
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but if you don't have them, I think, in the
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right order, they may not have the exact impact you have, right?
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music is maybe not what we... are grown up with
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that every song should be uh independent and be able
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to stand alone right so not only it should fit
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on an album it should also stand alone so We
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this time also.
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straddle that balance between what we grew up in liking
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and then the modern day world. So these people are
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listening to those singles.
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start with a good song and good hooks, I mean,
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if you get the feeling, then it's going to be
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a good song, no matter if it has a context
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or not. But I think, for me, it's so much
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more valuable when you have an entire album that is
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telling a story.
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You said it. I also think, like, this record goes from, like,
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blistering intensity into, like, you know, emotional, almost ballad-type stuff.
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Is that hard to balance that as well?
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for this album, I think we... We allowed ourselves to
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be a little bit vulnerable maybe, a little bit more
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fragile to show another side of ambush.
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That has always been there, but maybe we weren't able
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to manifest it in a way on the earlier records.
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Do you ever feel like you're too vulnerable? Yeah, do
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you ever feel you're too vulnerable? Sorry, I stepped on you.
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We got a delay. Oh, no, no problem.
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in art if you're expressing an emotion you should make
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it extreme you should turn everything to the extreme and
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if you have something to say you should say it
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out loud or if you if you feel that you're
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emotionally down you should be extremely down you should Get
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something positive out of your emotion span and emotion spectra.
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I believe in that. So it's when you feel very
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strong for something, then good stuff will come out. No
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matter if it's negative or positive, good stuff will always.
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Come out of it. Sort of like when you're in
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high school and you break up with your girlfriend and
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you play that sad song over and over again from
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Poison or someone.
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say you listen to black metal, death metal, we're all
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human beings. We are pretty much programmed in the same way.
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the different emotions, maybe, and also to express... Our music
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in a more extreme way towards.
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organic and more real and more relatable, right? To the
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final listener?
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I sure think so. I mean, this is the first
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record that I can clearly say that I can listen
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through the whole record. And I think it's... I'm proud
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of this record. The earlier records, of course, I've been
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proud of them. But it was not something that I
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actually could listen to because, you know.
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I don't like to listen to myself singing. But on
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this record, I'm so proud of what I've done with
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regards to singing. I'm so proud of the boys, how
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they play, how they swing in some of these songs.
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sensitive subjects. That we dared to show that we're not
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only tough guys, you know. We also have a sensitive
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side and we are human beings. So I'm very proud
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of this.
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Did you go into the record having discussed those scenarios?
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You know, that deep, dark stuff? Or did it just
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sort of kind of happen while you were writing? Does
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that make sense?
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Yeah, it's an interesting question because I never... I never
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told the guys, but I had the feeling when I
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wrote the lyrics for this album that this is going
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to be something a little bit different, but we'll keep
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the styles, like the imagery and the aesthetics.
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Of it all.
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We must keep, because this is Ambush, but we can
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touch a little bit more sensitive subjects on this album,
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I thought. Maybe not make it meat and potato this
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time only. let's touch some subjects that are important of today.
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Okay. So I'm going to step outside the box then
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because I'd like to just end. some not ordinary questions
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just for the hell of it if you don't mind.
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Of course. Shoot. Imagine the characters in your songs come
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to life for one night, one show, whatever it is.
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What kind of epic metal themed adventure would you want
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to lead them on?
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So The characters in the songs.
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Okay, so... For example... In the Evil in All Dimensions song...
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It's about a nightmare, so... It's basically a... A real character. And...
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It tells pretty much the story in the music video...
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What it's about to... What is about to happen. But
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it's like when you... When I add... Characters from the
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other songs. Let me see the Reaper for example That
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is actually a dead person trying to reach to his
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beloved widow and Yeah, well I kind of lost my
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thread here what was the context I would put them
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in the characters and.
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What kind of metal-themed adventure would you take them on?
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I would take them to Roller Coaster Amusement Park. I
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would take them all. And I would buy them ice cream.
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Fair enough. Sorry, I know they're kind of wacky, but
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I like to be a little different. If you had
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to choose an animal mascot that embodies the spirit of Ambush...
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Especially the new ambush coming from this record. What would
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it be and why?
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It would be Vildvittra. It is an old Norse folkloric
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animal that is like a combination between a human and
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an eagle. And this is the reason why we have
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it on the cover. So it's called Vildvittra.
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Perfect. Yeah.
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It kind of... It's a symbol of fear and evil
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at the same time, but it still has some human aspects,
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which makes it relatable. Right.
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No, no, I get that. And I mean, I think even,
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you know, evil in all dimensions, even the title is
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appropriate to the world we're living in at the moment,
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even if you go no deeper, right?
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there are people that think you're evil. So no matter what,
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we are all evil in each other's perspective. But we
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are advocates of reason and trying to not view other
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people as evil. I don't think there are evil people.
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I just think that there are people that... Make shitty decisions?
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I think from each and everyone's perspective, we.
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Are all good. I agree with you, yes. I believe
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in the common goodness of humanity, right?
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So I think it's up to all human beings to
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crack the code how to cooperate and to work together
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instead of throwing shit at each other.
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So can I just stay here for a second or
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are you not comfortable with this?
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I am definitely uncomfortable.
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How do you solve this? We're so far off track.
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How do we get back?
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I actually read a book last week. I read The
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Alchemist by Paolo Coelho.
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a band, a black metal band. Geez, I don't remember
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their name now. They're from overseas, somewhere near you, Germany
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or somewhere over there. And they wrote their whole record
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on it.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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I'll have to email it to you because I don't remember.
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I'm drawing a blank right now. I talked to so
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many people, but yeah.
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I mean, I'm not into New Age and stuff like that.
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That book is truly genius in its way of describing
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how we can look at the world from different angles
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and different views. But it's all about trying to find
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your destiny and letting other people find their destinies as well.
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You should never obstruct other people's desire for reaching their goals.
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reach somewhere. But right now it seems very dark, yes. Yeah,
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I don't know how we get out of this.
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I think the metal community is like this weird sort
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of anti-popular gathering, right? Because in the metal community, for
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the most part, it doesn't matter who you are, like...
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what race you are, what religion you are, what sex
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you are, who you are. Nobody gives a fuck, right?
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if you took that little microcosm and expanded it to
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the world, we'd be in a much better place.
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Absolutely. And every time we tour around the world, you
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see that there are people from all social backgrounds. There
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are people that didn't have the money in the first
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place to pay for the tickets. And then you talk
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with another person and he owns a big enterprise. So
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it's the best sphere for communication, really. Because right now,
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I don't think there are many social spheres where you
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can meet people from different backgrounds. The unjudgmental. Exactly. We
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are all there, like you said, around the riff. We
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are there to honor the heavy metal gods. Not to
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flash your political views or religious views. We're there for
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heavy metal. Right.
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And you can be whatever religion you want. It doesn't
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matter to me. I could care less.
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It's like when you talk to people, because we have
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a lot of anti-religious imagery and stuff like this.
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Sure.
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But the drummer's mother in this band, she's a priest.
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Right. Right.
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And she loves the music.
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And she comes to the games.
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If you want to.
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Be able to express your own opinions and your own
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beliefs and your own systems, then you got to let
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everybody else do it too. You know, whether it's anti-religious
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or not, I don't have to agree with your principle,
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but I could still have a beer with you and
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listen to Sabbath.
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Yeah. Never obstruct another person's destiny or desire to reach
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their goals. It's beautiful.
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That is great. Yeah. Wow. Chills. What's next for Ambush, then?
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I know I took you totally off the rails, but...
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I mean, next for us, we don't know. But we
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know that we're going on tour.
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That we know. We have a desire to do something
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with this band and with this chance that we've got.
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We signed with a big label.
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We have.
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It feels like we have all the possibilities. But we
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also need... Time. We need to take care of each other.
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We need to make good decisions.
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Yep.
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And we need the fans to support us all the way.
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And then we will go how far we can get.
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I don't care. I just enjoy the ride and I
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love to play with my best friends.
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Yeah. That's beautiful. That's going to bring me to the end.
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I don't even know what to say. I mean, you
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guys have everything going for you. The record's killer. Great attitudes.
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I mean, I think... Maybe the stars are aligned.
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Hopefully. As I said, I'm not new age, but I
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start to.
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Believe in some... Right, little things along the way.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's all I've got.
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I hope that wasn't too bad. I mean, beautiful interview.
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Thank you, Bruce.
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Good luck with the record. I'm a fan. I know
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we're a fan of the show, so good luck.
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I'm a fan of you now also.
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Take care, my friend.
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Stay safe.
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Cheers.
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Bye.
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Bye.
