Nik Ewing: Local Natives

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A promt to know chief thing King sometime do you
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feel the same thing.
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Today, We've got Nick from Local Natives, super excited to
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chat with you.
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Nick.
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You've been in the band now for over ten years,
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going on what like twelve thirteen years something like that,
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ten something like that.
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Probably, Yeah, twelve thirteen however, reminded. But I am the
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new guy.
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Yeah, you're still still the new guy. Yeah. I grew up.
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I grew up in like the like very rural kind
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of Midwest, and my my grandma and grandpa actually lived
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in for sixty years and even more rural part of
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the Midwest, like in a town of like less than
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a thousand people.
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And even though.
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They lived there for sixty years, like died there and everything,
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because they weren't originally from there, they were never seen
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as like a local. And so maybe maybe someday you'll
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be considered a local, local native. But yeah, as of
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right now, you're still You're still in the new guy,
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You're still the transplant.
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It's all relative. There's always someone that's been there longer
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than you, and no one's been here longer.
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Any How are you doing today, Well, how's life on
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the Pacific Coast?
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I'm doing well. I'm a little It was racing over
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here in our studio. Nice podcast lovers love when you
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talk about stuff they can't see. But I'm in my studio.
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As you can see in the background raced over here.
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Is that your own studio or is that the band studio?
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This is the band studio?
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Nice?
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All right, So we're like we're seeing, we're seeing how
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the sausage is made.
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You're seeing a podcast as love.
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That is the shiniest piano I've ever seen. I literally
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feel like I'm i mean, like a Cadillac right now.
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You see a reflection in there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Is that like somebody's garage or is it like
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its own like kind of space or.
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No, it's the sound space. It's like, I mean, it's
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like a an actual studio that we converted into like
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a like someone was living here before and we just
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turned it into like our workspace recording studio.
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Beautiful, and you almost like live close enough where you
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can kind of just go there whenever if you need.
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Yeah, it's like between all our houses. I could walk
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here if I wasn't running late. But that's just three minutes,
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as is the way in La.
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Of course, Colin and I have gotten to know Dustin
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Cancer really well from Thrice, which I don't know if
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you are you guys. You guys are in La now right.
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We're in La. But he Thrice there was some connection
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with Thrice in the the guitar player I think recorded
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at EP before it was local natives. Okay, Dustin came
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to our last La Greek show. Okay, he was like
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front row. He like bought a ticket. Oh yeah, it
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was disarmy.
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Yeah, I love it.
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Well.
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Anyway, I've gotten to know him pretty well.
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And he talks about how Thrice has, you know, their
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own like studio space, and I think it's like one
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of the guys is like backyard kind of big shed
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or something like that.
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I'm not I've never been there.
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But he's talked about it, but he talks about how
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like because the band owns it, He's like, it is
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the greatest investment that that band has ever made. He's like,
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it's probably the big reason why they're still a band
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after like almost thirty years is because like they have
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like their own specific space where they can record and
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do everything.
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Yeah, if we were a wiser band, I remember talking
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about it like eight years ago. We should not be
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rented in any stage of life. You should not be
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renting if you're able to. But really, economic world that's crumbling.
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But if you can buy itself, Yeah, it's probably more
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valuable to have real estate than to be in a band.
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So can you like bunk up there and everything too?
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In theory? Is a fridge or is a washing machine?
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All your essentials?
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Dang, that's all you know? Well, I think the washing
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machine needs to be an instrument on the next album.
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There's a band that Colin and I listened to where
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one of the there's a guy uh or the guy
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that is like in the band for like, the percussive
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part of the song was a guy banging on like
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a washing machine or maybe it was like an old
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was it washing machine?
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Colin?
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Yeah, it was a washing machine. They pick it up.
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They would pick up a washing machine as they would tour,
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so like they would just check like Facebook, marketplace and
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pick up a washing machine and then bang it.
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And just a bang on that. For that one specific song,
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it was pretty coo.
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Yeah, yeah, that's pretty DIY. Some friends of mine there
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their first rec they had a song called trash Can
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and it was just a trash canlet that they like
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they would hit as like a percussive instrument that.
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Sounds very slip knot like his addressed as a clown.
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As well, or no, I wish it was like it's
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very it's rock, it's like Americana Hell yeah, indie rock. Yeah.
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Interesting.
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Well, let's talk about how you even got into music,
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even before you got into local natives, Like what what
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got you inspired to just even play music to begin with?
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I honestly don't remember time. Music wasn't part of my life.
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There was like a piano in my house, and I
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kind of just taught myself how to play the piano.
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And then after I taught myself, that put me in lessons.
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My dad was in a band when I when I
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was a kid, I got eighties hair eighties hair metal band.
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Oh yeah, your dad and my dad should hang out.
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There's a lot of Yeah, a lot of these dads
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should hang out. Yeah. So that was like, I guess
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the introduction, But I like I was music. I don't know.
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I played the end of my whole life. And then
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high school started joining New Junior high just like start
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joining bands, worship band. That was definitely like my first,
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like from junior high to college. Yeah, just like you know,
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you're playing.
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Every worship band and your dad was in the eighties
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hair metal band is your dad?
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And Striper No, but he's a big Michael Sweet fan
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of course. Yeah, he's always telling about his new album.
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How many of those have you listened to?
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U zero this century? But I do remember in the nineties,
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my parents were very just back to your your tweet
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that connected us to your coffee shop Christian tweet that one.
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But my parents and one of my bandmates, one of
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my guest friends you talked about, who said, Nate Pargazzi
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has this bit where was like I grew up Christian
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in the nineties, which was like the most Christian.
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And my parents more than Yeah.
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Yeah, there was a part in the nineties where my
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parents were so Christian that they got rid of all
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my CDs and then you have to go to like
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the Christian bookstore, like if you like blinkin eighty two,
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you might like Reliant K or something like, and there
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was like all these things. Oh, because the last time
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I listened to the reason I noticed I got the
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singer of Striper's solo album in the nineties because I
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was forced to throw away my Beatles and my Zeppelin.
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And even your Beatles records.
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Have you listened to? Have you? Have you listened to those? Backwards?
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Pretty pretty demonic.
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They're demonic going forwards too.
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I don't know if you knew, but yeah, Revolution nine.
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But I remember going to this bookstore and like, it's like,
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if you like and I think, if you like Real
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big Fish, you might like Michael Sweet from Streiper his
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solo album, which which there is no correlation.
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No, no that whatsoever.
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Yeah.
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So growing up in that kind of household, you have
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a whole lot of other things that were throwing out
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because they were too of the world or anything of
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that sort.
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Yeah. Yeah, Like it was very christ very a lot
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of movies and TV shows and remember Simpsons and Harry
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Potter was all very There was a moment where it's
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like this is really, yes, the work of the devil.
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Yeah, and waging a spiritual war.
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Yeah, a secret war Pokemon. I remember that was the
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one I was just gonna say, can't do that. I yes,
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I didn't even think about that.
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But yeah, Christmas one year, the one thing I wanted
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were these Pikachu slippers, and I wanted them so bad,
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and my grandma got them for me and I opened
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them up on Christmas. My mom immediately threw them in
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the trash because they were demonic because it's a pocket monster.
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Was this a bigger theme than I guess I realized,
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like a lot of kids.
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And oh, I think, I think, especially where Mason and
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I are from, it was very big. Yeah, but you
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grew up in California as well.
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I grew up in San Diego, so southern California.
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And okay, yeaheah.
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I feel like any I think like anybody who grew
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up like a youth group culture in the nineties and
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two thousands especially can really attest to like that type
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of story regardless of where they live, whether it's the South,
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the Midwest, out West, it doesn't matter, like it's going
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to be kind of the same universal experience.
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Yeah, Nate Pargossi is talking about it. Yeah, I mean
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that was that was like childhood and music. But the
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whole point was like in high school, okay, like eased
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up a little bit or I could start sneaking stuff
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and that's when I started like joining high school bands
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and terrible dance.
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And what was your what was your gateway drug into
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the secular world again.
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It was definitely emo music. It was like and I
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still ride for him, and I've like said this publicly
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and I have like friends who like playing his records,
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but like Connor Oberst and like Bright Eyes was like
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my yeah, my huge one. Like I think he's a genius.
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I was like and then and then it was like
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a tree of like high school emo music. And then like, oh,
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I can listen to the White Album as a seventeen
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year old and I was that kind of blew my
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mind and because I was all thrown away.
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Before, Oh man, that hurts my soul.
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Yeah, I mean we we all, we all survived. And
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I don't know. I'm talking to a friend about a
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similar upbringing and her upbringing was even more religious and
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she's a well adjusted, great artist. I'm just like this,
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I don't know, it's kind of kind of amazing that
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you can go through that for you do have to
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play as you.
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Have to play a little bit of catch up though,
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you know. But I do kind of have like a
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little bit of jealousy around certain things like that, because
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you know, a lot of people discover music and movies
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and things like that in their high school years, and
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for a lot of people, especially if you grew up
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in the nineties or the early two thousands in a
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very Christian household, you you probably weren't exposed to any
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of it, so you had kind of like this delayed
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gratification of like getting to see and experience all like
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the coolest things in the world with like a more
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mature mind.
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You know. Yeah, yeah, I guess so yeah, yeah, you
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can like kind of experience it for the first time
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as like an adult or not like an adolescent or
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something versus this is just normal, right yeah, yeah, awesome.
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Uh well I'm curious then, like what maybe even right
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before Local Natives, Like what kind of got you maybe
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to eventually get into local Natives?
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Like were you in touring bands before then? Were you in.
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Bands that recorded previously, Like because I would imagine you
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don't go just straight from like just your you know,
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local generic high school band to playing in a band
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like local Natives at that point.
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No, no, no, like so yeah, high school bad bands,
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and then I guess college I was. I started my
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own project, which I did for a few years, and
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then honestly, like for like five years trying to think
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big timeline, like four or five years. I was just
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like in so many touring and recording bands and just
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some I'm like really proud of, and some are like
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known bands, but yeah, just like I don't know, it's
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like a the cliched l a experience, but just like
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you're kind of like a hired gun or then becoming
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friends and they're like, all right, you want to help
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on this record? And then but yeah, so I was
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in a ton of ton of bands. Uh, Morning Venders
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was the one that turned into pop et Cetera was
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the one right before and Rooney Tape, Deck Mountain, the Sands,
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the Howls. I'd have to really go through my desography.
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So how did how did? How did the fellows from
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local natives discover you? And uh and take you under
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their wing?
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We were like in similar friend circles, but we didn't
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really know each other. And one of my bands had
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played a show that one of them DJ and like
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on the peak first record that Gorilla Manner and then
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and they parted ways at the end of Griller Manor
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with their founding based bass player, and then they had
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a touring a dude fill in so that he's like
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play random shows while they're making their next record, Hummingbird,
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and that guy he's he's a really good friend of
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mine and he kept like just giving me stuff. He's
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like I used to he used to be in Rooney
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and then he did something. I was like, hey, do
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you want to be in Rooney? And then he's in
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a band called Fidbar, which is like this kind of
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punk band, and they were taking off and they were like, hey,
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do you want to tour with us? And he's like,
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I would love to, but I really want to see
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my band through. And then they'd like kind but he's like,
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we should get my homie Nick. And they were just
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kind of trying people out, and I did like a
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tryout and we were vibing. It was more like I
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don't know, like a Tinder date or something like obviously
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like everyone everybody who's trying.
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Out a good time at the under One.
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respect to ball t ender day because like everyone's like
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the second date, right, yeah, yeah, everyone's trying out, can
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like play the like everyone's good, you know, So it's
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like more like the right vibe can you a lot
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of touring like you play ninety minutes a day of
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music on average, and like twenty two hours of chilling
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and hanging out, and so like the the vibe is
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kind of more important than so it's it's.
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More of like a hinge date. That is what you're
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trying to say.
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I dated, I got married before all the dates took off.
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So I don't know the difference between.
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See the same same here, but I do know that
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hinge is where like the serious people.
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Go like gotcha there, like you're finding out a life partner. Yeah.
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I think that their slogans like designed to be deleted or.
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Something, Yeah, gotcha, And then there's other ones like designed
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to hook up or something, yeah gotcha. Yeah, So it's
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a hinge date. Nice, My references are off.
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So we talk about this all the time on here.
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One of the things that we keep hearing is that
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it you really have to be a good hang, because,
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as you said, everyone's good, everyone's if you're trying out
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for a band, everyone's already good. Anyway, it comes down
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to are you a good hang? Can we stand to
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be around you for twenty hours a day or something
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like that? Right?
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For touring? Absolutely? Yeah?
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Yeah?
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And then and then there's also like an artistic wavelength,
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and I feel like we were on a similar one.
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So it was very I wasn't expecting, but I was
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very quickly there, like I was a touring member, and
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then very quick they're like you do you guys? Do
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you want to join us? Man?
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So when you say the same artistic wavelength, like what
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is that? How would you more how would you go
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into better detail about how to describe that?
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I mean it.
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Does lock in well, it's yeah.
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I mean, like especially I think tours a good breeding ground,
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especially if we were in our young twenties. But just
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like why you think why you like this new music?
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I think Sergeant Pepper's is overrated? Or like why you
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really were into like Kida but not okay computer like
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just like getting into Nybie and a lot of it's
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like new music. It's like stuff that's going on in
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pop culture right now. You're like, why do you like
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or not like the Playboy Party record or something, and
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it's just like.
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Damn it really is.
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Yeah. I mean this is like I'm talking like fourteen
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months to do that. But like you're like you're realizing
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what you like, what you just like what the other
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person likes how to push some or like and then
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for me it was like I was like I wasn't
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a part of the band, but I was like, all right,
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the set change, the set list needs to change, because
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like this song into this song could be better, like
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go like this and like like anything artistic or creative
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vision when it's collaborative, like you're you're trying to convince
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each other in some sense and compromise and like you're
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all trying to like make what you guys think is
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the best song, the best concert, the best T shirt
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design or whatever it is. It's like, and we're like
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a very collaborative band, So I think down process, we
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all kind of like, okay, this is a good sit Yeah.
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As a band, Yeah, Local Natives, in my opinion, has
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always been very complex with textures and things of that sort.
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And so I guess when you said artistic wavelength, I've
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always just kind of wondered when you start playing new
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music with somebody or like, like you're like you're trying
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to create something new for the first time, do you
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feel like it's like like you you like you just
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speak the same language and everything just locks into like
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the same like a kind of like a hive mind
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almost kind of a situation or like what happens then
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when you have like disagreements about a base tone or
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something like that.
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I honestly feel like we've rarely achieved high mentality, very
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like you're arguing over a based melody or like a
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just a detail, but like it's it's tough to explain,
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but it's just like you're there. I'll take the conversation
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away from even like being the new guy like I could.
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I can remember instances on our last record doing the
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same thing, and it's just like, technically we can make
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a song, but maybe it's not what we all want
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it to be. Like there's all the parts, but like
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something's not right, and it's all of us are trying
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to figure that out together, and we have different opinions
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on why that is. We're like, all right, what if
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we make like a just embrace like seventies drum sounds?
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Is that a thing we want to do? And half
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of us like yeah, and two of us are like no,
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Like all right, well what if we try to a
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drum machine? Like we're all trying to like find that
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to get other And I think looking back is a
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little bit easier to see that making a record, I
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think you're very easily lost in the vortex. But there
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are like ten poles and references. But I can look
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back now and be like, Okay, something that you since Hummingbird,
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Aaron Destner and Layer and stuff or Yoleu Street experimentation
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in seventies. Like it's easier now years away from it
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as opposed to like in the middle of it, when
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we're all kind of like figuring out what we want
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this thing to do.
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Sure, yeah, I want to kind of go back on
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the point really quick on just being kind of like
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a good hang almost being like just such a huge
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part of why certain people get picked in bands. And
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it just reminds me of I see you have a
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it looks like a Stanley Cup Finals had on. So
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I'm guessing, I'm guessing your sports fan of some sort
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or is that just anesthetic?
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This is all aesthetic because I don't know hockey at all,
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but I love basketball and football fair enough.
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Well if you're a basketball fan.
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So I was watching this podcast episode with Lebron James
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and he was talking about how there are guys in
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the NBA and I would imagine, like every sport has this,
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But there are guys in the NBA who make an
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entire career making millions of dollars where they will probably
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never play more than like ten games a year. But
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the reason why they continue to be on teams year
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after year after year and making millions of dollars is
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because they're the good guy to have in the building.
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Like they're the guy that the team just by the Yeah,
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they're they're the guy like even like with the like
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the the.
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Building staff, Like they're the that's the guy that's like
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picking up trash so that the.
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Janitor doesn't have to in the building.
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Like it's those are the kind of guys that Lebron
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James has said, Like, those guys, even though they might
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not be the most talented, they will make an entire
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career in the NBA just because they're the guy that
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like will pick up after themselves, or they're the guy
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that like make sure that like when somebody else in
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the building, you know, maybe their their daughter is sick,
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and like he gets the A card. Like those are
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the kind of guys that stick around for a long
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time even if they're not super talented. And so it's
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it's something to be said about like if you're just
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like a good hang, just a good person like that
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really will take you places in life. And obviously you
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need to have some level of talent, right like you
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are a talented basis, and lots of musicians who are
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in these incredible bands that we all love, they're incredible
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musicians right at the end of the day.
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But also like being.
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Like a good person is going to get you in
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a lot of places in life and give you a
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lot of really cool opportunities.
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Totally. I mean, like I guess that example is so great.
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I just read this athletic piece this morning about PJ.
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Tucker on the Knicks, and he's like this that who's
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like forty, he's washed. I love him. He was on
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the Clippers, my team, but like he's definitely has no
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basketball substance to get a team. But he was brought
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into the team and there was this whole like long
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article just like having these team old only meetings, and
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he was like talking to the stars and like you
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got play better defensive, so you got communicate this way.
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And he literally did not play like more than like
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sixty seconds in the playoffs, but he was so crucial
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to the team, like you know, like in sometime in
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the sense like a band as a team, or like
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I've never had like a real job, but I gotta imagine,
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like I don't know, if you're an accountant, there's like
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a team like you guys want to do something together.
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So I think I think it kind of could relate
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to a lot of stuff, like obviously you have to
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be a good accountant. This dude I'm talking about he
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can shoot threes like great, but then he's like a
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one percentage point off of like like whatever, like a
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prime NBA player should shoot it, or like yeah, me
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or many people in bands, like when I tried off
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with me is there's so many people who could play
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the same notes I played correctly, But obviously it wasn't
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just about that.
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It reminds me of like I just saw like maybe
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maybe this is actually a quote, but I saw like
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a tweet the other day that was like marriage isn't
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actually a fifty to fifty relationship, It's a sixty to
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forty relationship. And the trick is to see the trick
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is to try to be the person that's doing the
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sixty percent.
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Right.
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And I'm like again, like I think it kind of
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you know relates to Yeah, like if you're just like
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the person that's gonna work hard and do like everything
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the right way, like you're going to get in places
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in life. And whether that yeah, is a band like
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Local Natives or an accounting firm or the NBA, like
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if you're that kind of or even a marriage, Like,
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if you're that kind of person, it's just gonna work
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hard and do the right thing, like you're gonna you're
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gonna get the opportunities that you should deserve.
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Yeah, I mean I can only speak from my experience.
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I can't speak for all humans, but it's just like
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like that, there's also like I I see like like
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like a lot of unfair hands dealt and a lot
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of it is luck and be in the right place
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at the right time, but also like you know, having
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the skills and tools to do that stuff when that
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opportunity comes, like you know you're ready to go.
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Mm hmm love it.
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Well, let's talk about the new album came out last April, now, right,
493
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.400
and so yeah, what love to just kind of hear
494
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:39.359
were there like certain things on this album that maybe
495
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:41.759
you guys were trying to experiment with or trying to
496
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.079
do something maybe a little new that y'all haven't maybe
497
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:46.279
tried before.
498
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.480
This last record. We kind of talked about the one
499
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.000
right before it came out the year before as.
500
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:53.960
Well, less like less than a year apart, right.
501
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.640
Yeah, I think there were like ten nine months apart.
502
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.319
They were all made together, so it's basically how I
503
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.319
view it. It's like a double album that got split
504
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.480
up and then we put them out in pieces, and
505
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:13.119
it was definitely a transition time in the career or
506
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.960
in the arc of the band. I think the record
507
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:20.759
before I feel like, I don't know if every artist
508
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.720
says this, but every record is kind of like a
509
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.960
conversation or reflection of the record before. So like Violets
510
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.960
Street felt very maximalist and very experimental and one of
511
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.920
my favorite albums records I've ever made. Incredibly proud of it.
512
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:39.200
But it was a lot, and so we were like,
513
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:43.119
all right, let's try to do like everybody's playing one thing,
514
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:47.519
like a classic Beatles record or something. So that was
515
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.319
like the North Star for a while. We're just like,
516
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.160
all right, let's just let the song speak for themselves
517
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:57.240
and keep it classic and not like a ton of
518
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.720
sans a wild experimentation. So the second part, but A
519
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.640
Way for You is just like the second half of
520
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.319
that or like they're they're kind of all one thing. Yeah,
521
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.200
and that was also the last record that Kelsey was
522
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.680
a part of and had like a tough time getting
523
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:17.039
back together. He spoke pretty candidly about it. We did
524
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.519
on the first record, and I think part of the
525
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.640
music you can hear too is just like us trying
526
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.759
to keep it together, the five of us. And I
527
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:29.680
think I can hear very specific parts or tension between
528
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.079
us when I hear it. I don't imagine everyone can
529
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.440
hear that, but it is like it is like the
530
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.599
end of an era. So we we put that record
531
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.839
out before like the public unit it Kelsey was quitting,
532
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.599
and then we announced it soon afterwards.
533
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.400
Yeah, do you want to speak on that a little
534
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:55.200
bit more about where you plan to go without Kelsey?
535
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.440
Yeah, I mean we were kind of this is like
536
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:02.839
his choice, and we love them and we support them,
537
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.599
and so this was just choice to leave. And having
538
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.319
said that, like we're kind of just viewing it now,
539
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.559
it's like, I don't know, an opportunity is like a
540
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.400
like a reset of the band, Like all right, like
541
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.440
let's rethink how we make music, and I feel like
542
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.359
a lot of us it's tough as you get older.
543
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.000
I feel like time will come first all the title,
544
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.960
but you don't really want to get in ruts like
545
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:28.920
this is how you make a record. You do the drums,
546
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:30.519
then you do the bass, and then you say it
547
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.759
like that's once you get formulaic. It's it's a pretty
548
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.000
bad place to be, Like no one's making their their
549
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.720
best work in that spot. And so this is like
550
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:44.119
an unexpected mix up. But we're like, I mean, we're
551
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.519
sorry working on the new record, and there's so many
552
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.920
songs I'm excited about and our band is so let's
553
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.319
talking about it so democratic, so like it's very little
554
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.319
like all right, you play the guitar because you're the guitar,
555
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.440
but you play it like there's so many songs. I
556
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.960
don't play bass, and I played all the keys on
557
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.400
or something, or like someone will write a chorus and
558
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.039
someone will write the verse or anyways, it's like it's
559
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:12.079
a band. So there's there's so much music that we've
560
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.480
already put out where it's like, all right, three of
561
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.839
us made this song, and then two people made that one,
562
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.160
and then four of us minus this other dude was
563
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.039
part of this, Like, so we're already kind of in
564
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.559
a weird sense, We've made a lot of songs without Kelsey.
565
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.119
They've made a lot of songs where I haven't played
566
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.359
on it, so because we just want the best song
567
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.680
and we're trying to get like our egos out of
568
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.960
the way of like, okay, now I need to come
569
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.400
on and fix the space part, you know when that's
570
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.759
probably just my ego speaking, So it's less about even Kelsey.
571
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:43.599
But it's like we've made music and so many different
572
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:47.160
configurations in this band already that we've done. We've made
573
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.200
songs without Cals, and we're well, we're gonna make a
574
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.359
whole record now without you know, is that kind.
575
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.079
Of a daunting or scary experience?
576
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:57.519
Uh?
577
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.240
From from your point of view, you know, when you
578
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.279
take off one major piece of you know, an original
579
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.559
or original member of the band, does that feel like
580
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:11.559
it's like WHOA do we kind of have to like
581
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.680
look for a different kind of identity here or do
582
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.519
you feel like this this is just business as usual
583
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.400
and we're gonna you know, we miss him, but.
584
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:25.519
You know, yeah, no, I don't feel it doesn't feel
585
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:30.319
daunting or overwhelming in the slightest like made it's not
586
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.440
even about him. But it's like we've made a lot
587
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.200
of music without him, He's made music without me. Like
588
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.359
it's just like I can remember very specific songs that
589
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.599
he wasn't a big part of, and there's a lot
590
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.559
of songs I wasn't a big part of. So it
591
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:48.680
doesn't it doesn't feel like this massive scary thing in
592
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:53.119
a sense, but kind of an exciting tier. I don't know,
593
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.519
we've made music. I think it's more just like, all right,
594
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.440
and I love him, He's gonna be my brother forever.
595
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.880
It's much less about him and much more like what
596
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.480
we would do this part of an album cycle already.
597
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.759
It's like, all right, we're working on music, and like
598
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.759
I see it the threat between those two. But I
599
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:10.279
don't I don't know if I want to make that
600
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.279
record or like we're all just in that stage right now.
601
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.440
We're trying to like figure out what we want to make,
602
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:20.160
which is a pretty normal, sure part of our process.
603
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.519
Okay, it sounds like because he wasn't like the primary songwriter,
604
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.640
but because you all sort of equally had that responsibility,
605
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.839
it sounds like, you know, because you know Obviously, losing
606
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.640
any member is going to change some artistic direction to
607
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.839
some degree. But it doesn't sound like because he wasn't
608
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.720
the primary songwriter that it's not like you all are
609
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.160
going to now start to become like a punk band
610
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.480
or whatever. Right, My guess is it's still going to
611
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.559
be very distinctively local natives.
612
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.640
Yeah, I'm sure you can. You'll hear a lot of
613
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.000
through lines from previous records. I mean, he was a
614
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.079
primary songwriter or on some so a lot of songs,
615
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:07.039
but we're there's there were like three primary songwriters, so
616
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:11.160
there's just it wasn't like yeah, like I'm trying to
617
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.359
think of an example. Yeah, I don't know, like when
618
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.559
like the singer of a band and it's basically just
619
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.519
like if Kevin Parker quit Tam and Pault, like that'd
620
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.799
be done. Yeah, it ceased to exist, but we were
621
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.720
like a band. Love it.
622
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.200
Yeah, So I know you all it looks like you
623
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.799
only have like maybe like one show coming up here soon.
624
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.000
But I'm guessing you've done it kind of most of
625
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.480
the touring of this previous album. But yeah, are you
626
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:42.480
kind of hoping to get out on the road again
627
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.839
sometime soon? I mean Also it sounds like you guys
628
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.839
are writing, So yeah, what's kind of the future of
629
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:48.640
the band right now?
630
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.039
We're only go like a handful of shows this year,
631
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.839
which is kind of like a normal we call it
632
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.839
the album cycle, but like we put out put Away
633
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.279
for You last year, away from that one the year before,
634
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.039
so it was like it was and then we kind
635
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.440
of do like a post covid our first tour back
636
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.839
like right before that record. So it's felt like a
637
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.799
two and a half almost three year album cycle of touring.
638
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.279
So it's pretty natural for us to go away for
639
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.599
a while and just play a handful of shows and
640
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.359
festivals while we're like working on a record, because those
641
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.720
are wildly different parts of like the like once you're
642
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.400
touring is very hard to like be creative or like
643
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.880
make music. We'll do it in mad respect to them,
644
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.519
but I guess maybe as a band, so we're we're
645
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:41.000
just focusing on a new record and I had to guess,
646
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.160
you know, it comes out next year and we tour
647
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:44.079
next year.
648
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:48.599
Yeah, is there a part of the album process with
649
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:50.960
that whole album cycle that you're talking about, Is there
650
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.839
a part that maybe is like your favorite part, Like,
651
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.720
is it the actual creation of the album. Is it
652
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.279
the promotion of it? Is it the is it the shows?
653
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.799
Like do you have just like you personally have a
654
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.079
favorite part of that cycle?
655
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.960
I don't it feel like such a cop out. I
656
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.840
really love recording. I love creating just in general. But
657
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.800
I really and this is like a man made cycle.
658
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.000
So it's not like it's like this this uh ornated
659
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.880
like thing that came down from the guy, like this
660
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.920
is God telling us like how you're supposed to tour music.
661
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.039
But I do appreciate, like it is like I have
662
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.480
so much fun coming up with promotion. I'm so involved
663
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:34.039
with that, have like a small label myself, so like
664
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.199
I really like doing that type of stuff. And then
665
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.599
we talked about it a bit. But like when COVID hit,
666
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.159
anyone was touring, and then the after COVID tours, like
667
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.320
we all came back. We hadn't played shows in so
668
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.519
many months and years. Made us at least us as
669
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.719
a band, and me myself like realized, like, oh, music
670
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.760
is communal. It's not just like making something I think
671
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.159
is so sick with my boys or by myself fun
672
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.239
a computer like like realizing like oh, there's like sounds
673
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.199
a crystal through through, but it's like there is like
674
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.119
an energy being shared. It's like I can't put my
675
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.800
I've played thousands of shows and I can't put my
676
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.519
finger on what creates like good energy in a room.
677
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.800
But you know it when you feel it. They know
678
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:23.639
when you feel it, and other shows like you every great,
679
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.400
but something's just off and it's just like a disconnect
680
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.679
with the audience or vice versa. Anyways, I'm giving you,
681
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.480
I'm explaining audi answer all the stages that I really
682
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:38.000
appreciate them all and then I feel like and then
683
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:39.760
after a long tour, I can't wait to be home
684
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.239
and not tour and sure more fun stuff Again, that
685
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:45.000
does leave.
686
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.440
Me to do like a different question, and that's when
687
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.880
you walk up on the stage for the first time,
688
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.840
do you automatically know like it can they immediately read
689
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.679
the room and know what is got a happened that night?
690
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.840
Like how the crowd is going to respond? Or do
691
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.519
you like viewed as like a challenge you like I'm
692
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.079
gonna win you over something like that?
693
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.760
Or we talk about that like we've done a handful
694
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.320
of like opening and it's like opening you there's like
695
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.360
a you're trying to convert. You're trying to make believers,
696
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.840
You're trying to convert people, and so that's like a
697
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:26.519
whole different beast, but we'll like analyze. Definitely, it's tough.
698
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.880
I mean, opening gigs are tough and I feel bad.
699
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.320
We have a lot of amazing openers, but it's like
700
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.360
we open for like The National and Kings Leon and
701
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.440
like these really big bands and it's like half full
702
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.800
in front and like people are getting their wine and
703
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.400
like like they're not really paying attention. But then you
704
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.280
can like, oh, this one song, I feel like the
705
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.679
energy shifted and they I don't know, we got more
706
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.000
Instagram followers at night, like you can like see something.
707
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.519
Well, you already said enough, you already said enough. That
708
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:58.400
that you that you said that they're getting their wine.
709
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.519
You know what kind of you know, what kind of
710
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.760
crowd you're playing to if they're getting their wine instead of.
711
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.960
Their best National that's definitely not Kings Leon. But we
712
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.480
will talk like even our own shows, like headlining, like
713
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.519
you go out first song and then you're like uh oh,
714
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.960
and then like like this is us debriefing after show?
715
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.519
Its like and then when we played like wide ice Forth,
716
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.039
I feel like something shifted and then we had them,
717
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.639
and then they were with us. Yeah, even like a
718
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.440
show can start average or below, like it's no indicator
719
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.679
where it will go or vice versa, or it's like
720
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.440
it's like hitting hard out of the gates, but it's
721
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:41.039
a Tuesday night and people are dwindling at the end
722
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.880
because it's a random Tuesday night and is raining.
723
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:48.800
And yeah, yeah, so with with Local Natives, I mean
724
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.599
Local Natives had a lot of success even before you
725
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.320
were in the band, and so there was kind of
726
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.880
a built in, a built in audience to a certain extent.
727
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.920
Have you you ever had just like an awful experience
728
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:05.280
playing a live show?
729
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:07.039
Oh my god?
730
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.159
And what what would that be?
731
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:16.480
Unfortunately, I think they're mostly private gigs, like we like everyone,
732
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.599
every once in a while, someone with a goodly amount
733
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.480
of money of wealth, like, hey, can you guys want
734
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.679
to play this wedding?
735
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.199
Or this a wedding?
736
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.000
Holy shit, a wedding?
737
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.559
Yeah, Like when they ask you to play a wedding,
738
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:34.679
are they asking you to play local native.
739
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:35.800
Songs or covers?
740
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.719
Like are they basically like trying to get like the
741
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:40.679
best wedding band cover band ever?
742
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.360
No, the it's and it's so like so like I
743
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.920
remember that, like the the couple, like the person was
744
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:54.000
so rich, they flew so like amazing crazy wedding. The
745
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.119
couple loved us as a band, and maybe like ten
746
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.679
other friends. It's and so they were stoked out of
747
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.840
their mind. But then like like one hundred and ninety
748
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.920
people had no idea who we were. They're older, they
749
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.199
didn't care, they're like their ants. Like so it's like
750
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.360
maybe like I don't know, fifteen people were stoked, but
751
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:16.199
just like some mid tempo indie rock after the first
752
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:25.760
dance wasn't reaching everybody. This is I mean, yeah, play
753
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:33.119
Dancing Queen totally. Most most of the horrible ones are
754
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.360
like Privates or my bands before, where you're just like
755
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.599
you're playing to the other three bands.
756
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.039
Sure, yeah, there is something about I. I you know,
757
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:51.039
you talk about like opening for the National but so
758
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.960
Culin and I are really into like heavy music, punk music,
759
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:57.039
and then obviously lots of indie stuff. There is something
760
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.960
about like going to like an indie show right where
761
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.440
even if you're like the biggest fan of that band,
762
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.920
there's a certain kind of energy that you have where
763
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.039
it's a lot of you know, just like you're swaying
764
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.320
or you know, like I'm a huge like Explosions in
765
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.519
the Sky fan, and I've gone to a number of their shows,
766
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:13.880
and it's like, you know, what do you do other
767
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.159
than just stand and like just kind of like this
768
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.519
is cool. Whereas like if you're at a punk show
769
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:22.840
or a metal show, like you're participation. You're like, even
770
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.599
if you're not even in the mosh pit, there's like
771
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.079
there's a lot of like weird dancing or what like
772
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.320
the but there's some sort of energy that like it's
773
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:33.480
very clear, just very visibly clear that wow, these people
774
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.239
are into it. And a lot of that is because
775
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:37.800
of you know, when it comes to like punk or
776
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.320
metal shows, like the band like entire I mean, there's
777
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.159
times where like the singer will be out there mashing
778
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:43.840
with the fans or whatever.
779
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:44.920
Right, And what.
780
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.320
I've always loved about The National is they bring almost
781
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:53.000
this like punk rock ethos to their live shows. Obviously
782
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.639
they don't sound anything like a punk band, but you know,
783
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.639
like Matt will often be in the crowd doing punk rock.
784
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:00.519
Singer kind of shit.
785
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.239
Uh totally, And that's.
786
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.639
Something I've always loved about a band like The National,
787
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.639
And they're one of my favorites ever. But yeah, I'm
788
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.320
just curious like for you, like, is that something that
789
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.760
you guys have thought about, like knowing that Okay, yep,
790
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.039
we're an indie band. We're not ever gonna be like
791
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.880
a punk band that's gonna have that kind of energy
792
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.280
at a show, but like, has there like been thoughts
793
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:21.079
about like how do we maybe incorporate that type of
794
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.920
crowd participation or how do you incorporate that kind of wait,
795
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:27.079
like that type of energy into a lip show.
796
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.760
We say that we asked that question as Mason and
797
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.519
I have never yet had the chance to see you, So.
798
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.360
That's true, that's true, Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean you're
799
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.719
bringing up Matt from the National and we've played like
800
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.719
a ton of shows with them, like the tours with them.
801
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:46.280
They've always been so supportive socially. Baron produced our second record.
802
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.559
We we definitely were inspired by him and one of
803
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.840
our singers. We'll go in the crowd in a similar way,
804
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:58.119
and it's very much Matt bearing er influence because we're
805
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:03.840
like this harmony heavy, beautiful indie music. So yeah, we'll
806
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:04.519
do that a little bit.
807
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.039
Nice, nice, Yeah, I love, I mean it's It's always
808
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:11.400
a little like disappointing when you see an indie band
809
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.480
and they just they're just standing up there playing their
810
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.880
songs the best that they can and like, you know, respect,
811
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.039
like that's one way of doing a show. But again,
812
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:21.239
maybe I've just been like so so influenced or so
813
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.280
we've been tainted man, maybe yeah, maybe yeah, tainted or
814
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.719
brainwashed by punk music. That like my expectation is if
815
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.400
I'm going to go to a show that either myself
816
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.199
is going to get on stage or the like one
817
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:35.400
of the musicians better be coming down off the stage
818
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.000
into the crowd. That's just yeah, I don't know, I
819
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:39.559
just have been so tainted by that.
820
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.039
We I mean, we've played like I don't know, I
821
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.400
feel like we're like we're definitely an Indian band, but
822
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.599
we've like open for like National Kings of Leon and
823
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.079
like Paramore, and I feel like or like even this
824
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.519
weekend we're doing a festival and Ziggie Marley's playing right
825
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.880
after us. I feel like all all those different artists.
826
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.480
I don't know if everyone does this, like we try
827
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.079
to like skew our set towards that like what we
828
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.440
think those fans would like, you know, like we're not
829
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.360
we're not doing covers, but it's like, all right, let's
830
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.360
let's play our most high BPM songs on this h
831
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.360
this paramore stuff, and then like let's get very beautiful
832
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.360
on this National. Like it's just like you kind of
833
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.360
skew it that way. That makes sense. Yeah, I don't
834
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.920
know if everybody does that in the opening slaws or
835
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.000
if it's like this is our thing.
836
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:33.400
I've seen the National play and opening for them was
837
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:37.880
Lord Huron and it was a very similar kind of situation. Uh,
838
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.639
you know, there was a I don't know, like a
839
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.679
four minute Theoremon solo before the National, But I've also
840
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.800
seen Lord Huron without the National and there was no
841
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:52.400
Theoremon solo. Right. Uh, do you guys? Do you guys
842
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.079
ever try to like one up other bands like Seek secretively?
843
00:43:58.119 --> 00:43:58.920
Maybe I don't know.
844
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.039
I mean, we don't open a ton, but it is like,
845
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.039
I don't know, you're trying to back to religion. You
846
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.760
are trying to make believers and convert people, and I
847
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.719
feel like there's like a little sportsmanship is like we're
848
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:18.199
we're trying to steal your fans, but you can be
849
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:20.559
a fan of There's not like a limited amount of
850
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:22.000
artists you can be a fan of. So I was
851
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.920
just like, we're trying to I don't know, take these people.
852
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:31.480
Yeah right, Yeah, I mean there is a I mean,
853
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.679
obviously there's lots of ways to convert somebody to liking
854
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.320
your music. I mean, honestly, a lot of It's like
855
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.840
for me, it's like word of mouth. Like if I
856
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.559
just see that there's a lot of hype going on
857
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.480
about one particular album or band or whatever, I'm like, well,
858
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.840
I guess I have no other choice but to be
859
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.400
interested or at least, like, you know, take a listen.
860
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.760
But another one another way of that is if I
861
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.599
see an opening band and I'm just like memorized by
862
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.719
memorized by it. I'm just like this has got like
863
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.679
I've gotta I gotta figure out what these are all about.
864
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.400
Like that's another way to convert me as well.
865
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.159
Yeah, and I like we've had so many sick openers
866
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.719
and as like the headliner. I always like love when
867
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.280
they're like amazing and like crushing, because I feel like
868
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.280
it's just like making the night so much better, Like
869
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.280
you know, it's just like this people are getting their
870
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.360
money's worth, Like this is like awesome.
871
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.079
Yeah, I love it.
872
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:24.960
Well.
873
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.440
It sounds like, yeah, a little bit of an off
874
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.360
year for shows, but new music at some point. I'm
875
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.239
guessing you know you'll be recording, or it sounds like
876
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.719
you certainly are writing, but I'm sure recording some point
877
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.639
this year and yeah, next year getting the album out.
878
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:39.960
Are we ready for top five?
879
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.280
Culin, Let's do it.
880
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.119
Let's do it? Okay, Nick?
881
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.480
You ready for your top five most influence albums?
882
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.239
You know I should have thought about this more. I'm
883
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:54.039
gonna go in. Some of these are recycled on other
884
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.159
lists I've done. Blonde by Frank Ocean is just the best,
885
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.559
the best album at the last a few decades or something.
886
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:04.360
Anyone who knows me already knows that.
887
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.280
It's just like, yeah, I don't know, has he done
888
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.920
anything lately. I feel like I just haven't really been much.
889
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.639
I feel like, no, he is. He's put out some
890
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.960
a lot of songs like five years ago, but nothing.
891
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:19.440
That sounds about like the time.
892
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.159
Last time I heard about him was yeah, yeah, so yeah,
893
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.480
it looks like yeah, Blonde was his last like actual
894
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:26.960
studio album.
895
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:27.360
No.
896
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.599
I don't want to make any judgments about you, but
897
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:34.000
I remember when that came out. It was every lady's
898
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.599
favorite album. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that
899
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.320
it's a gendered album by any means, but.
900
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's messing with the like
901
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.679
he I mean his record before, he like didn't really
902
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.119
want to talk about sexual like he's he's very you know,
903
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.360
pushing those boundaries without really wanting to talk about it.
904
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.960
But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think he's a
905
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.519
musical genius. I feel like that album is so gorgeous
906
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.960
and so many like I've listened to, Like there's this
907
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.880
podcast called Dissect and like they break apart a record,
908
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.960
So I've listened to like a like the record a
909
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.079
million times, but like I've listened to this podcast, like
910
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.039
listen to like forty hours breaking down the podcast, and like, oh,
911
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.639
like there's so much intentionality in beauty in this record.
912
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.480
I could even realize I needed help with It's gorgeous.
913
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.840
It's a It's a perfect record for me.
914
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:31.480
Oh yeah, love it?
915
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.280
Yeah? Another one another one twenty two a million by
916
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:37.679
Bonny Ver.
917
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:41.480
Oh oh yes, was that twenty yeah eighteen? Now was
918
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:42.719
when I came out.
919
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.000
I think I was also twenty sixteen so a big year. Yeah,
920
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:48.880
well sixteen, yeah, or come I seventeen.
921
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.960
If I can add one thing to that. So you
922
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.679
you learned about Mason through his tweets. Mason uh became
923
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.159
Twitter famous. I don't know what may since six years ago,
924
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.800
seven years ago, something like that. But there's a there's
925
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.199
a tweet from forever ago and it's my all time
926
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.079
favorite tweet of Masons. Mason, do you remember it? Do
927
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:13.079
you want to say it?
928
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:13.599
Yeah?
929
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.000
So, like it's sort of like in parentheses it says, uh,
930
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.519
dog sitting your hipsters like dog sitting for your hipster friend,
931
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.159
and like quote end quotes, I say come get your bone.
932
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.239
Ever okay, and it blew up on Twitter.
933
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.000
It did not blow up at all.
934
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.719
That was that was this is just your favorite.
935
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:35.679
Pre pre Twitter famous, but it was my favorite tweet
936
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:36.639
that Mason's ever had.
937
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.119
No, I mean, this is what I keep referencing it.
938
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:42.920
But I'm sure You've had a lot of moments. But
939
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.840
just like the I could spot something like a coffee
940
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.559
shop if it's like quasi Christian, Yeah, yeah, like I
941
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.960
could figure that out, like and know that spoke to
942
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.599
me and especially as a touring artist, I bet yeah.
943
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.239
Okay, speaking of boniver though, like unbelievable band. So I'm
944
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.920
really stoked about the new album as well. I'm you know,
945
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.679
it just came out like a month or two ago.
946
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.559
But yeah, he's kind of like going a little bit
947
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.239
back to the kind of acoustic e singer songwriter type
948
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:17.079
of roots.
949
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.960
I love the I love there's like a meme going
950
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.400
around right now where it's it's it's the dude from
951
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:31.079
Bonivere basically like explaining every song on his on his
952
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.719
most recent album, and he's like, this one is inspired
953
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.920
by like like music, if music was just like an
954
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.880
ethereal thought within your head that oh I saw.
955
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.320
I saw that video too. It was so good.
956
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.920
It's so accurate because if you listen to like the
957
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.960
song Exploder episode with Boni Vere, it's just like that.
958
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.239
It's what he broke down a song on the new record,
959
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:55.920
and that's what you're talking about.
960
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:59.000
So it's not actually him. It's a guy guy pretending
961
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.360
to be him, and like every song is just like
962
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.280
more ridiculous than the last in terms of how he's
963
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.480
explaining his thought process. It's it's so good, but it,
964
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.639
I mean, it is true. He definitely pulls from a
965
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:18.199
completely different box than I would say most artists do.
966
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:25.000
Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that record in particular, I just
967
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.639
I don't know. I don't think it's a universally everyone's
968
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:33.920
favorite Bunny Bear record. But the glitchiness, like all the
969
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.280
kind of distorted electronics like it while he's like kind
970
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.679
of grappling with God and uh yeah, are we just
971
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.480
assignee meaning and all? Like the numerology Like I felt
972
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.320
that the artwork I thought was so so inspiring. Yeah,
973
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:56.079
it just felt so thought out and thought provoking. Yeah,
974
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.159
and more than just sonics and songwriting.
975
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.480
A true musician, a true artist, like through and through,
976
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.480
like that guy will do art for the rest of
977
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.320
his life, like whether it's music.
978
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:07.719
Or something else.
979
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.320
But he just seems like one of those people that's
980
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.840
going to live and die as an artist.
981
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:12.880
Yeah, totally.
982
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.880
So all right, that's the second one.
983
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:21.599
Right, two. Yeah, I'm gonna also go with Pacific Ocean
984
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:23.079
Blue by Dennis Wilson.
985
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.719
Okay, I don't know if I know who Dennis Wilson is.
986
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:27.400
I haven't heard this.
987
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:32.320
He was in the Beach Boys. He died in the eighties. Okay,
988
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.199
he's the drummer of the Beach Boys.
989
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:36.199
He's the high pitched voice.
990
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.079
Right, Nope, he's the lowest one.
991
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:39.960
He's the lowest one.
992
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.320
Okay, yeah, kind of mixed up. It's not maybe even
993
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.639
my favorite Beach Boy thing, but it so. Then I
994
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.280
have a solo project and I covered that album in
995
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.599
its entirety from beginning to end, which isn't a plug
996
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.000
for that record, but it's just more than like this record.
997
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.800
I don't know. It feels like a special, quintessential LA record.
998
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:04.280
And I remember the first time I heard it. I
999
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.280
remember like how like it like I listened to all
1000
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.960
I'm sure everyone did, and especially being in this band,
1001
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:12.159
all the Beach Boys stuff, and like how inspiring that
1002
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:14.400
is for a harmony band like this. And then discover
1003
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.280
this record and it's not like, yeah, it's not better
1004
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.840
than Pet Sounds or anything, but it is like so
1005
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:26.480
broken and so beautiful and feels so la and so
1006
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.920
tragic if you put it out and didn't do well.
1007
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.599
And then Brian, his brother who's a genius, kind of
1008
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.440
like shit on it, and then he died before Brian's like, oh,
1009
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:41.360
I should have been more encouraging of him. Ryan tragic
1010
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.920
figure as well, No doubt anyways, that one's always been
1011
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:45.920
like a special one for me.
1012
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:49.360
I'm looking at the the artwork and it's you know,
1013
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.280
just a portrait of him, but it's reminding me of
1014
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.159
a thought I had the other day. Was every guy
1015
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.679
in like the sixties and seventies just naturally hairer than
1016
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:04.840
every guy now. Like it's humble, like the amount of
1017
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.000
men that And maybe it's just like a thing that's
1018
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.639
just like selective because we only see the pictures of
1019
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.960
like artists or whatever, and those guys were just you know,
1020
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.320
having like cool ass mustaches or cool beards or whatever.
1021
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:17.519
But it just.
1022
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:20.320
Seems like every dude back then, like it feels like
1023
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.800
as a human species, over the last like fifty years,
1024
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.280
men in particular have just gotten less hairy, especially in
1025
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:27.280
terms of Mason.
1026
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.199
There was no low tea in the sixties.
1027
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:31.159
That's true.
1028
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:38.679
Was it was all the highest of teas. Like I
1029
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.519
swear to god, every dude was just like either on
1030
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.679
steroids or human growth hormones or something.
1031
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.159
A lot of biotin. They're just they're just eating biotin.
1032
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:48.360
So I don't know if you guys have ever had
1033
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.559
that thought, but just like, yeah, I mean, just even
1034
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.360
looking at like photos of like old like Western guys
1035
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:53.719
or whatever.
1036
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:54.440
It's just like.
1037
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.679
Every dude had a mustache and also mustache, and you
1038
00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:58.840
just like never see guys that.
1039
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.679
Can have Yeah, just like, oh, how is that possible?
1040
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.199
Because if you if you couldn't grow a mustache, then
1041
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.320
you wouldn't you wouldn't make it in the movie, or
1042
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.639
you wouldn't make it on the on the Olme cover.
1043
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.400
I guess. So it's just it's really unbelievable anyway. I
1044
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:13.679
don't know, it's just the thought.
1045
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:18.320
That's the fiest thing I've ever heard you say, those
1046
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.199
are the thoughts that I have sometimes.
1047
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.800
All right, that's number three. What's number four?
1048
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.119
I'm scrolling my phone right now to get this right.
1049
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.800
I don't even know if it's I don't much when
1050
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.000
I want to go with I feel like I want
1051
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.920
to do a song. I don't know if that counts.
1052
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.320
But it is from a record, and I don't know
1053
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.599
the record as well, but it was it was Max
1054
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:47.199
Richter The Blue Notebooks, which came out about like fifteen
1055
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.639
years ago. But then there's this mashup of Dina Washington
1056
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.719
Max Richtor this Bitter Earth like it's like a sixty
1057
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.800
soul song that was put on top of this A
1058
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.559
cuss shoally beautiful UIC. Yeah, I would encourage anyone who's
1059
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.880
listening to it like this. I don't know. This song
1060
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:11.559
is like the most I don't know, like the closest
1061
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.159
I felt like to touching God or something like. It
1062
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.559
is so beautiful and it's technically a remix. It's like
1063
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.800
this sixties soul singer and this neoclassical music from fifteen
1064
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:24.280
years ago.
1065
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.320
And who is it matched up with? So you said
1066
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:29.519
Max Richter? And who.
1067
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:32.639
Washington?
1068
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:34.519
Anything related to Dina Washington?
1069
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:42.400
I'm in man, Yeah, dang, okay this Bitter Earth on
1070
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.599
the slash on the nature of Daylight?
1071
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:47.800
Okay, one did that?
1072
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:48.000
One?
1073
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:48.280
Did them?
1074
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:49.639
You say, Max Richter? Was that?
1075
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:56.880
Who was? Yeah? Okay, wait what's it? Yeah? Okay double shacking, Yeah.
1076
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.400
Okay, all right. It looks like maybe like two thousand
1077
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:01.440
fourteen is when.
1078
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:01.719
It came out.
1079
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:03.679
Maybe that's so.
1080
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.159
He like two thousand and nine or so. Okay, that's
1081
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.079
when his record came out. I don't know when this
1082
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.000
like remix was made, but it is.
1083
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.920
Oh, I see, I love it?
1084
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:16.320
All right?
1085
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:19.719
Cool, Well that's a that's a I'm definitely gonna check
1086
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.119
out the song. All right, so number one or the
1087
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:26.320
last one or however you want to call it. But yeah,
1088
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:26.840
what's uh?
1089
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:30.039
What's uh? What's the album?
1090
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.000
How many I got? I get four? Yeah, I feel
1091
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.679
like they fucked this list up. There's so many I'm missing.
1092
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:41.639
I'm trying to pick a Neil Young record.
1093
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.639
I don't know what's Oh, that's always tough, That's always tough. Yeah,
1094
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:46.840
I love Young.
1095
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.920
I think I don't want to be a basic pitch
1096
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:52.920
and just pick Harvest.
1097
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.559
But you gotta pick harvests, right, I might have.
1098
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.039
I don't know, I would do like the Ditch trilogy
1099
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:03.000
I love. I don't know. I'm giving. I know he
1100
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.119
gave me a prompt and I keep pushing it to
1101
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:09.840
this limit. But after the gold Rouse Harvest, but then
1102
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.000
the disc trilogy, I like love just seventies Neil Young.
1103
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:16.280
I'll go Harvest.
1104
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:20.280
Okay, good call, good call.
1105
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:24.320
But I truly understand the difficulty of trying to narrow
1106
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.679
it down for a Neil Young album.
1107
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:28.719
I feel like he has to be on my list,
1108
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:33.920
like he's especially seventies Meal, I don't know, just a
1109
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:39.920
brilliant songwriter. H Yeah, I.
1110
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:42.800
Feel like he was. He was in a completely different
1111
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.360
kind of like state of mind than most of his
1112
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:49.119
contemporaries at that time. How do you feel about his
1113
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:53.719
his legacy, in his in his his place in the
1114
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.199
music world now, I guess.
1115
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.800
I mean, I feel like it's I don't know if
1116
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:03.559
it's it's tough to judge, Like he's made so many
1117
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:06.639
records and a lot of them are not really good
1118
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:12.599
as of late ye, and he's also been like pretty
1119
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:13.920
political for a long time.
1120
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.880
And kind of write about a lot of things for
1121
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.199
a long time. But I don't know if they even
1122
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:22.360
translate to like, Okay, does a song slap or not? Though, right, yeah,
1123
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.480
I feel like just kind of time well even that
1124
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:28.360
stuff out, Like I feel, yeah, I feel like I
1125
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.400
really messed with this stuff. Like the other person I
1126
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.760
feel like I should have a person is Dylan. I
1127
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.159
love Dylan and Neil Young are just like or Leonard Cohen,
1128
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.400
I really mess it up, Like they're just like this
1129
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:43.159
this this top bar for me, and their careers were
1130
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.119
so long, like it's so hard to judge them at
1131
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.400
different different points. But kind of I don't know, maybe
1132
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:51.280
Leonard Cohen's the best. When like when you pass away
1133
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:55.400
enough time passes, people start viewing it as a workup
1134
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:59.039
thing and not like what your concert was like when
1135
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.800
you're seventy six. Like that's that's kind of a not
1136
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.480
a good way to like cement your legacy, you know.
1137
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.599
Yeah, from from from a guy who's from such a
1138
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:14.639
harmony driven band, I'm surprised that you picked three guys
1139
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:19.599
there who are definitely not known for being fantastic singers.
1140
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:20.960
It's kind of interesting.
1141
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:28.039
I mean, I'm really like, I don't like good voices
1142
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:29.039
or like beautiful.
1143
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:30.639
I'm with you, I'm with them.
1144
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.119
I'm saying that, like I feel like everyone in my
1145
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.119
band besides myself, has an amazing voice. Uh, Like I
1146
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:41.679
get I just sing the high notes like I'm really
1147
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.760
good at hitting the false settle anyways, Like I'm saying that,
1148
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.719
and I know our music is so beautiful and a
1149
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:49.719
lot of that's driven by the voices, but I don't
1150
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:55.679
I'm not if someone can sing like very good and
1151
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.360
this is so unfair, like Jeff Buckley singing hell yah
1152
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.480
SIUs Leonard cohensing like one is clearly better. But like
1153
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.800
I'm gonna gravitate towards Leonard like just I do too.
1154
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.559
You're not even a knock on Jeff and maybe it's
1155
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.639
more a knock on, like I feel like he created
1156
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.519
worship music or something, so maybe there's something else there.
1157
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.960
But anyways, I just I don't, I don't really like.
1158
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:24.639
But also Frank and Justin Vernon have beautiful voices, so
1159
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:25.679
they're on the list.
1160
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:27.719
But that's true.
1161
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.679
By the way, Neil Young has an album coming out
1162
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:31.480
next week.
1163
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:35.199
You could say that. You could say that, like every month.
1164
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.880
I'm still waiting on my I'm still waiting on my
1165
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:41.360
shipment for my player.
1166
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:48.119
So yeah, you might be waiting for a while. I mean,
1167
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:51.519
I respect the work ethic and yeah, feeling, I don't know,
1168
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:55.320
it's just touring like crazy. I guess there's mad respect.
1169
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:59.519
Oh, absolutely absolutely I would. I would love to see
1170
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:03.679
Neil Young live. I have not seen him yet, but man,
1171
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.719
I saw Bob Dylan a few years ago, probably almost
1172
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.239
ten years ago, well more than ten years ago now, Jesus,
1173
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.159
time goes by quick. He is hard to listen to now,
1174
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:14.079
I'm not gonna lie.
1175
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:18.400
Yeah I can. Yeah, I've heard that. I haven't seen him.
1176
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.840
Yeah, Timothy would be more listenable at this point doing so.
1177
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.880
Yeah, I mean, I would say Bob Dylan's voice is
1178
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:28.280
dropped at least two total octaves.
1179
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:29.719
Yeah.
1180
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.079
I don't know if this is all the cigarettes in
1181
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.320
marijuana he smoked, but I don't know.
1182
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:39.280
But man, but like I feel like Lennard, it got sick,
1183
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:41.119
it got cooler. When it draw he.
1184
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.840
Got he got better. Yeah, same thing with same thing
1185
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.760
with Johnny Cash.
1186
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.039
Johnny Way American albums.
1187
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:49.639
I like his I like his voice more on those
1188
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.840
American albums than his early stuff.
1189
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.880
Me too, because it's not it's not always uh, it's
1190
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:58.800
not always there too. Sometimes sometimes his voice fades off
1191
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:02.360
and it's like, oh man, that's a human good luck
1192
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:07.960
a I try to replicate that absolutely.
1193
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.360
Yeah, I gotta see them all if I like, there
1194
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:14.480
don't have many more years left. But I also like,
1195
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.400
I loved that last Dealing record.
1196
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:17.920
Yeah, it was great.
1197
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:22.519
Thought it was so beautiful, and that somebody that's like
1198
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.360
eighty can only make that record, like like a twenty
1199
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:28.719
five yeople could not make that record.
1200
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.119
Did you hear his his his Sinatra songs?
1201
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.079
No, I skipped that one, but how how was it?
1202
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:40.079
It's actually not too bad. It's it definitely feels like
1203
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:44.719
a more folksy Sinatra, which is kind of hard to imagine.
1204
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:47.679
But he did it, he did it off, he pulled
1205
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:50.320
it off. Yeah, it's fun.
1206
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.480
Well, good list, great singer songwriters on every single one
1207
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:57.639
of them, so which I would imagine so with a
1208
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.000
band like Local Natives and the fact again like all
1209
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.119
all of you were basically primary songwriters to the band,
1210
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.239
Like it would make sense that you that you all,
1211
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.519
I would imagine the entire band loves good songwriters.
1212
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:13.280
Yeah, I mean, and I bet our lists are wildly
1213
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.480
different and that's what makes us a band.
1214
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:17.159
Yeah that's cool.
1215
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:19.800
Well, Nick, what do you want to plug?
1216
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.039
So it sounds like you guys are writing, uh, and
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01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:25.679
I'm sure maybe maybe sometime potentially next year, new album?
1218
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:27.159
Yeah, what do you want to plug?
1219
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:29.960
I mean, Local Native stuff is so far away. I
1220
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:35.400
have a record label and a solo project, just chewing.
1221
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.960
What's it called? In chewing? This is the music I
1222
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.079
make by myself chewing. Okay, I'll put a piano only
1223
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:48.159
album out last year, just solo piano. But Chewing ink
1224
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:51.440
dot Com is all like the label and the music
1225
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.960
that I'm making by myself, beautiful.
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01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:56.360
Love it, love it, sick, Nick, what else would you
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01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:56.840
like to plug?
1228
01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.719
I think I talked about it earlier, but when I was.
1229
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:01.559
I did a lot of like church stuff. I did
1230
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.360
like church plays too. If I talked about that, like
1231
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:07.079
like not shocked at all.
1232
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.519
Like like the Heaven like the Heaven and Hell play
1233
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.280
that or the Heaven's Gate player or whatever they do
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01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:13.000
at every church.
1235
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:16.360
Is that is that one that we all did? I
1236
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.000
remember I I did like like Jonah and I got
1237
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:21.800
the role of Jonah, Like that was a big thing.
1238
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.320
Oh my gosh, looking yeah.
1239
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:28.760
Yeah, So like I was, I was, I was. I
1240
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:30.840
was doing plays, like I was doing the worship stuff
1241
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:32.920
that came later, but like I was doing that stuff.
1242
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:35.920
And then in San Diego, you know, it's not like
1243
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.199
I was getting the big parts in these in these
1244
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:45.079
uh church and local productions. And it eventually led to
1245
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.719
me being on do you remember this serial called Kicks,
1246
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.639
like k with the with the X right, yeah, k
1247
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.159
I X. So there there's a there's a commercial I
1248
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.239
landed in the in the nineties. Maybe you can find
1249
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.679
it on YouTube where I I was the kid in
1250
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:02.679
this Kicks commercial.
1251
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:07.880
Really, so what what kicks hijinks? Did they have you
1252
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:08.719
getting up to here?
1253
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:11.840
I mean, it's my memory. I was like a kid,
1254
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.599
but it's like it's a lot more boring than you thought.
1255
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:17.320
Like it was just like you're you're doing the same
1256
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:21.039
shot of like the spoon and holding it up and
1257
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:23.280
then they're just shooting it different ways. So it's like
1258
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.960
in my mind, I was like, this is gonna it's
1259
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.920
gonna ye my parents' mind. I saw home alone like
1260
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.960
the tournament to nikolay Culkin. But then it was just
1261
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.599
like a day in La and you're like just in
1262
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.559
this production warehouse and just like holding up a spoon
1263
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.599
with cereal and the shooting it three different ways and
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01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:46.519
you you have like literally three lions, And yeah, they
1265
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:47.360
thought it was breaking.
1266
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:50.679
And see, I never understood Kicks because they always tried
1267
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:56.119
to kind of position themselves as the healthy, the healthy
1268
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:57.519
alternative that kids like.
1269
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:02.159
Yeah, but it was like tricking parents are chicken kid Like,
1270
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:03.880
I don't even know who they're trying to.
1271
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:06.199
Probably I think they were trying to check everybody. I
1272
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.199
think they were just as big and bad as the
1273
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.880
fruit Libs people, but you know they're they're they were
1274
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.800
trying to be like if you if your mom takes
1275
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.360
you to the grocery store, she's going to get you
1276
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.440
Kicks because it's good for you and you're like fuck that.
1277
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:22.320
I don't want to have something that's good for me.
1278
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.480
I want I want the thing that tastes the best
1279
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.760
and kicks always tastes like dog water to.
1280
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.960
Be Yeah, Big Cereal is not your friend.
1281
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:33.480
Big Cereal is definitely not your friend.
1282
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:34.440
Yeah.
1283
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.679
I just love how Hollywood, Uh, you know, you do
1284
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.920
this little commercial and then Hollywood just unanimously was like,
1285
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.639
you know what, that guy, that kid has a face
1286
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:44.960
for an indie rock band.
1287
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:46.079
Yeah?
1288
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.079
Yeah, So are you an industry plant? Is that what
1289
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:50.159
you're trying to tell us or what?
1290
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:55.159
Yeah? Like h G R Her and me are not
1291
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:59.679
that different or Billie Eilish that's right.
1292
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.760
Right, Okay, I do have to I've always wanted to ask,
1293
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:07.960
like child actors this, but did you actually like the
1294
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.800
money that you got from this commercial? Did you get
1295
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:13.079
that is sort of like your parents gave you that
1296
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.719
money or did they pocket themselves?
1297
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.559
I have I had no idea, and this is a
1298
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:18.199
great question.
1299
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:20.840
I mean, you probably got like a few hundred dollars
1300
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:22.679
out of that, right even I remember.
1301
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:26.920
I remember, I imagine I was like a thousand or something.
1302
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:28.440
I remember we got to go to like a good,
1303
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.239
a good pizza place, afterwards, like that was like, my
1304
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:36.000
a job well done. We weren't that we weren't there.
1305
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:37.360
Did you get a skip school for the day?
1306
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:40.719
Uh no, because it was on a Saturday.
1307
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:43.199
Oh that's the worst.
1308
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:45.920
Like that would be an epic to be able to
1309
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.159
like go to school. I mean it's all already cool
1310
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:49.840
to say, like you know when you when you're in
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01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:51.480
school and tell kids that you're gonna be on TV,
1312
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.800
but it'd be extra epic if you get a skip
1313
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.079
a day of school for that.
1314
01:07:56.679 --> 01:07:58.679
Yeah. I think I was hoping for that the whole time,
1315
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.039
so you could like tell everyone like I'm gone on Thursday,
1316
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:03.000
Like why you've gone?
1317
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:04.920
I've got an acting gig.
1318
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:06.239
Yeah.
1319
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.159
So so when your friend when your friends saw it
1320
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:10.000
at the school, would they would they say?
1321
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.639
Uh? It was like it was a big moment, but
1322
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.680
like it was also like you couldn't, but you can't,
1323
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.199
you can't. I feel like those word of mouth, like
1324
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.520
you guys are like thinking of TV today, like if
1325
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:25.000
you missed it, if you were like there was no
1326
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.159
way to know when it was on, but a handful
1327
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.600
of people saw it. If you're watching Nickelodeon at the
1328
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.079
right hour, but it wasn't like you could record it.
1329
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:34.720
I don't even think we had, Like that's why I
1330
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:37.800
think I tried to like the thing. Yeah probably no, no, no,
1331
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.239
or like you're just like trying to hit record on
1332
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:43.000
the VHS, like you're definitely missing, Like there's no reason
1333
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.720
to just record commercials all the time.
1334
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:50.039
Right. My wife was recently at a commercial for her
1335
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:54.800
university that she went to and it played during the
1336
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.199
Super Bowl, which is wild and.
1337
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:02.159
So locally, what's that like a local commercial?
1338
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:03.840
Well, it's an STSU commercial.
1339
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.640
So yeah, there's no way they're playing in the STSU
1340
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:08.439
commercial in LA or something.
1341
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:11.079
Right, Probably not, I know, definitely not in La. No,
1342
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:13.720
it'd be like it'd be like you're like a regional one, right, Yeah,
1343
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:14.760
you're a regional commercial.
1344
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.279
I should say, Yeah, okay from San Diego. I thought
1345
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:19.079
you guys were from.
1346
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:24.399
Oh sorry, South Dakota. So Lakota. Yeah, the better the
1347
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:29.720
one that actually has uh you know, national titles.
1348
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.640
We made it to this whole podcast that's not d
1349
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:36.399
two universities against each other.
1350
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:42.439
Come on, now, there're d one. But yeah, So, so
1351
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:45.600
she was getting like she was at work during the time,
1352
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:50.199
and she got like twenty messages during the Super Bowl
1353
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:52.520
and she's like what is going on? And I was
1354
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:55.600
like your commercial displayed. She's like, oh that makes more sense,
1355
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:57.520
Like why it would happen?
1356
01:09:58.439 --> 01:09:59.960
I mean super Bowl is prime time?
1357
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:01.399
Hell yeah right?
1358
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:06.079
Oh yeah, one last question for you. You wouldn't happen
1359
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:07.880
to go to the same church or did you go
1360
01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:10.039
to the same church as John Foreman.
1361
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:14.159
I did not, but I kind of know him. He is,
1362
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.560
how do I I don't remember the connection. I was
1363
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.960
in a band and the singer was like a guitar
1364
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:23.880
tech for switch Foot, and so then we were like
1365
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:25.840
open for switch Foot and it was like a really
1366
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:26.800
big thing.
1367
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:34.880
Oh hell yeah. I can actually see you guys working
1368
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.520
really well together on the same bill, Like that'd be.
1369
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:44.680
Oh like local natives, Yeah, yeah together not local natives. No,
1370
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:46.319
So this was like a different band, Like.
1371
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.319
Right, but you guys, like you guys should play together,
1372
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:50.439
that'd be that'd be a sick Yeah.
1373
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:52.239
I know, you guys would work well together.
1374
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:58.359
I could see a crossover. Yeah, but yeah, he he
1375
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.279
was always really supportive of my like San Diego bands.
1376
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:05.199
What a dude. I've never heard a bad thing about
1377
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:05.600
that guy.
1378
01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:09.359
Yeah, I mean I don't know him super well, so
1379
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:12.039
I can't speak on his speak on him, but he's
1380
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.760
been nothing but like super generous and sweet to me.
1381
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:16.279
That's awesome.
1382
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.560
Yeah, but yeah, San Diego and music in that time
1383
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:25.640
is not the biggest world, true true. Yeah, I love it.
1384
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:28.960
Well, awesome Nick, thank you so much for chatting more
1385
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:32.520
about Local Natives. Just yeah, big fan of the new album,
1386
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:34.920
excited for the new music that will come out here
1387
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.199
maybe the next year or so. But yeah, just really
1388
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:39.720
really stoked about it. And yeah, thanks for thanks for connecting.
1389
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.039
I know, it's kind of a little random that we
1390
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.399
got connected and and then you know, fortunately I'm a
1391
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.159
big music fan and I was like, what in the
1392
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.439
world this is so cool that Local Natives dude just
1393
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:53.399
followed me. And so yeah, just really really cool to
1394
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:55.840
be connected. And so yeah, thanks so much for chatting
1395
01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:56.319
about the band.
1396
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:59.479
Yeah, man, it was a blast. Nice men you all,
1397
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:07.399
and thank you every On the last I you didn't
1398
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.960
know how said
1399
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.319
It'll know, you know,