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Speaker 1: So you think gonna win the Eastern Conference, gonna go to the finals, ain't gonna be the championship.
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Speaker 2: The Nick Knicks, they're gonna be in the championship over Philly. I think they'd be Philly.
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Speaker 3: You don't think the Knicks championship was a little lucky this year? What are y'all gonna do about Jalen Brunson? One man?
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Speaker 2: We was talking about one man this season to you you know that different? And then O g went and tip that in, so we had to talk about two men different. And then Josh Hart had fuck seven offensive rebounds and we had to talk about three men different. They told us we was gonna sit off for Josh Hart. Josh Hart ain't gonna be able to hit a three. He hit six of them.
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Speaker 3: We must tell it slow.
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Speaker 4: Bronton took wenby one on one.
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Speaker 3: MAXI scoop Maxie? Was that last year DJ Child and Lebron and didn't we go and wed?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I do a pig big big can pull me to wig. I said, we're pig big big singing it again. I dove a pig big big compell me to win.
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Speaker 3: I do a pig.
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Speaker 5: Big big sing it again. I do a pig, I do a pig big big, singing it again, I do a.
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Speaker 6: Big What is up?
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Speaker 3: What is good?
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Speaker 6: How you're living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it?
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Speaker 2: Is the big podcast with Shack where we always do it big.
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Speaker 3: Like my nephew and history class doing it big.
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Speaker 6: May I introduce our guests?
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Speaker 3: Yes you may.
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Speaker 6: So I went back. I can rewatch the film.
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Speaker 4: I was in New York the last time I did this, so I'm glad I got to do it in person. A lockdown menace, a pickpocket threat, an absolute nightmare to check that seventeen out of Georgia tech down three to one wasn't the plan in the land. But as he now stands with a ring in his hand, he is the best person to talk to after the King made a pick that none of us planned. His second time in the Shahokah Lounge from Oak Park, Illinois, emon A sante shunper.
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Speaker 3: We're going he's going to government.
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Speaker 4: Full government, full government.
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Speaker 3: Well I appreciate that at least.
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Speaker 6: Hey, well you have to give him yours. So though we're even.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, Mana's rush on us just.
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Speaker 4: Right. You know, mine's Matthew.
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Speaker 2: So you thanks.
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Speaker 3: He looks like damn it.
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Speaker 1: So we both know Lebron pretty well. I was thinking, all right, go back to Cleveland. I got a big crib here, go to Cleveland. Then I said, no, no, no, he might go down there with with Steph Curry because him and Lebron is cool. Played Golden State, and I said, Miami, him and Jannis. Nobody expected Philly. Did you expect Philly?
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Speaker 2: In one realm of what I was thinking, yes, because every time he leaves somewhere, like the story starts. I feel like Bron likes us a challenge, but he's he's still a kid like at heart. It's like there's a story there. He goes to Philly, they haven't won, and what forty years, forty three years, they haven't touched the ring he gave somebody that hadn't seen it in fifty Then he went gay the Lakers recrown them. It's like he leave franchises, then he come and he make another franchise.
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Speaker 3: Go. It's like the challenge lies in Philly.
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Speaker 2: Now unless he was gonna go it couldn't go to New York because they just won, right, no story there.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that he was making thirty million last year and he's only making fifty fifty million last year, is only making making this year this year? Four man, do you think the room? I heard a lot of people say nobody really wanted them. Do you think that's true?
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Speaker 4: No? I think Lebron is a business man.
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Speaker 2: I think we all can look at it and say, though it's a luxury to have him, you can't spend that much money on him if you want to make your team good enough to beat who's at the top.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: People got a pretty comed out team top to bottom, but they got youth. You can't sit here and depend on broad I think it was more a youth thing, and Lebron actually saying, if I want to give by myself a chance to win, I got two years left, I don't need no money. Might as well put the best team together, put the best product together, and I go out with a bang. But he do it within history. He do it within the two years that he first come to the franchise. You get a ring within the first two years. We'll see if it's true.
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Speaker 4: It's surreal for me as a Sixers fan, Knicks fan, my son is a Knicks fan, my wife is a Knicks fan. I am a Sixers fan.
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Speaker 3: That is a wild household.
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Speaker 6: So they they're very wild household.
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Speaker 3: My wife is wild.
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Speaker 4: My wife is from Queens. I'm from outside Philadelphia And like, where was what's that? He was born in New York? Oh yeah, I said from the top, I want the Eagles. And and there was like one night where the Knicks played the Sixers and I said, whoever wins the night? I look, the Sixers were five point favorites. They lost, And I was like, if you want to raise him a Knicks fan? And now that he's two and they just won the championship. Crazy, So he's he's got his og Annobi shirt like he's very.
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Speaker 2: This is what I keep telling people. People are people are tweaking about that. They keep talking about the statue should be Jalen Brunson doing this, but that Ognobi tip, that.
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Speaker 4: Tiph just a tip, just a little bit, just to.
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Speaker 3: See how it feels.
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Speaker 4: But I never thought, like when we went through, I always thought Lebron was going to go to Golden State because I thought he might want to play for Kerr to be around high IQ guys that would be like and then also like him and Steph the motion they could do would be fun. But I always thought the Sixers roster sort of like what he had with you guys in Cleveland, where like you were the attack dogs. That's what he has now with VJ and Maxie. I never expected Jalen Brown to be on the Sixers. I just now think about Alan Iverson sitting in the front row, doctor J sitting in the front row like and as you mentioned, forty three years Philadelphia is waiting to explode, and if he delivers it, this.
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Speaker 6: City will ride like they will ride for Lebron.
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Speaker 1: And that's why it's not going to work. In my opinion, you just said he right. Tyrese Maxley just worked his ass off to become the man totally. Jaylen Bronson comes off, Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown, whatever his name is. So now for Tyrese Maxy, do you back off for Do you say no, I'm still gonna do what I do.
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Speaker 4: Because he's still.
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Speaker 1: Then Bron comes. Now we got Joel embiid. It's too many egos. Three or four people are gonna have to say, all right.
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Speaker 4: If I may, yes, Tyrese Maxey is the guy who I think deserves almost all the credit for Lebron going there because I've never seen a young guy that the rest of the stars in the NBA respect who he is as a young player. Like I remember I was at a party with Wade and Chris Paul and I was like, oh, Tyres Maxy, I've never met him, And Chris Paul was like, this is the one, Like he's the kid that gets it. And Bead has already publicly said it's Maxi's team, he's the franchise. So and bet this was before all this happened that point. I think Lebron is at that stage of his career where he's not gonna like fight and all this stuff and get ego based in that trying to win fight.
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Speaker 1: Lebron likes the ball, likes to touch it. You agree with that, he gonna agree with it.
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Speaker 4: I agree, I agree to a degree.
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Speaker 3: He likes the ball.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also loves making the right pass at the right time.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's cool about them. It's forty eight minutes and Bron not trying to dominate it for forty eight minutes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but hold on, if you touch the ball for six seven eight seconds, brown's not a catch and go with it.
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Speaker 4: Jayleen Brown, he's a wild cardinal.
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Speaker 2: Throw Jaylen Brown the basketball with three point two on the clock, you get a bucket.
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Speaker 3: That's what makes him good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Tatum, if you go look at the tape Jason Tatum, they ran plays sets. We're getting him the ball, We're starting a corner quarter, We're getting him the ball. We're feeding him. And Jason Tatum was actually a better willing pac. He's way more efficient as far as finding the open guy. Jaylen Brown always takes an extra dribble and then it's too late.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Trumper, you make some good points. But man, that's two questions. Yeah, when was Jalen Brown's best year last year? Okay, when he had the ball? Ah, not cash and go. When he has the ball six seven, eight nine, second he goes to work, he's not gonna have that. No, he's gonna have to cast.
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Speaker 3: Or it's hard to say.
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Speaker 2: Man, coming off my Bess year, I gotta put my ego down. Yeah, if bron here exactly easy. Kevin Love was forty and twenty. People, he was forty and twenty.
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Speaker 3: My bad. If I can't, you can, I just he was.
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Speaker 2: Forty and twenty. He was doing stuff. He was out here threatening and thinking that he was you. I just I ain't like that. I'm just no, I'm listen. On paper they look deadly, but I'm just trying to think ego like I mean, you know, as he don't think they got no ego left, not in b You just want to win at this point, Yes, what ego do you have?
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Speaker 1: Thing? Because you know how it was being a youngster getting the name for yourself once I got my name from it. I'm not stepping back from somebody you was shocked though. That's why you got four of them. Because it takes certain personalities that come in and say, hey, bro, okay, so you want tyras maxis step back.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to step back. This reason about learning how to.
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Speaker 3: Be a chance. He's slowed the ball. Now.
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Speaker 2: All Tare's MAXI has to do is figure out a set where he can use Jalen Brown as a threat to where now you can't help, and then who am I getting the ball to? Am I feeding Broun or am I feeding Joel? He don't have no problem turning the corner getting his shot whenever he wants. He'll become more efficient. You won't ever see him play a bad game. I think the worst season.
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Speaker 4: I'm concerned about injury an ego, but I think Jalen Brown because all the rest of them were on this team last year. Jalen Brown is the one mystery of how it's all gonna work. But like they tell you what, it seemed like they fit great, sell you what other pieces is work?
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Speaker 2: Anthony Simons, out of no one's talking about it, you got about it. Damian Little might have taught him a little too much. And it's gonna all come to a right here because.
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Speaker 4: He's got superstar like he's going.
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Speaker 1: Well, Pope too all, well, Pope sign yeah, shooters, well, Pope done one before.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be his third franchise that he looking for a ring. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: It ain't it ain't it just won it before that, I'm saying the DNA of what's going on. I get what they doing because it might seem like I read a quote earlier they were saying it looked like ron chasing rings. I'm like, no matter where he would have landed, it looked like he chasing the ring. That's how good he is, even at forty one if he joins the team. Now, y'all, chief, it was gonna be that either way. I think he just couldn't to go to State because Daniel, Katie, you did complain he was on our team. We all complained when Katie went over there and joint Steph. So if he would have went over there, we had to complain. I still watched it though.
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Speaker 4: You said about Lebron loving the story. That would have been him and someone else's story.
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Speaker 3: It's not a good comic book, you know.
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Speaker 6: What I mean, Like we're having this discussion, who's the team is.
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Speaker 2: About to be the best comic book? Yeah, comic book option we got available. Bron James just went to Philly after he's been talked about to go to like a certain city vibe that's like a market, feel good, showtime city. Now he goes to like.
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Speaker 4: Where everyone's gonna have his beard, because Philly is the city of beards.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have his beard.
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Speaker 6: I'm playing dreams.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna own beards.
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Speaker 6: They're gonna be playing dreams.
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Speaker 2: About to be part of that New York household. Listen, Philly that we don't want that beard.
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Speaker 3: They got that.
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Speaker 6: Long, They got that long.
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Speaker 2: But you got the bacon beard, the energy, Philly is gonna be unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to work. I don't think it's gonna.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna work right away. It's worth it. I'm just saying for you, Championship.
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Speaker 1: Or bush that's a question. Yes, yeah, I mean not fit. Listen, they're gonna win forty fifty games, but no.
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Speaker 3: Championship or bus. Yes. Jaylen Brunston leads the fourth quarter scoring for the last five executive years from the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Jayalen Brunston ain't got Tyrese Maxi.
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Speaker 3: Tyres. I love you to death. Philly. Show me that you get to beat Jayleen Brush.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, Tyres Maxie has had his rundown with Jaylen Brunton.
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Speaker 3: Already, Philly got a squad now, mister s.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Jaylen Bruston needs to be stopped before we start considering people for championship or bus.
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Speaker 3: Look at that paper. How do y'all go do about this light skin?
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Speaker 1: Dude, that's a legendary squad on paper already already? Who Maxie.
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Speaker 3: Cool? That's what I said. I'm glad.
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Speaker 2: You can lead off with all that can't knock off the Kyl Brunst that got the gold ball man.
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Speaker 4: The next one, so they are so you have to beat the man to be the man in trouble.
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Speaker 3: There you go, Mitchell Robinson going, they're in trouble. I like this guy. I haven't told you'll like going. I like this guy.
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Speaker 6: So right now.
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Speaker 2: They got they don't have miss It was a problem that year.
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Speaker 4: He did play very well. But if we're gonna say that Mitchell Robinson is the reason, he can't be the whole reason. Okay, so let me know. I'm gonna quick little DraftKings because we have numbers. So right now odds to win the championship, Spurs are the favorite, then the Thunder, then the Sixers, and then a gap to the Knicks, which is interesting to me. To win the East, the Sixers are plus three fifty. Their line from Vegas in terms of wins is fifty, so they so if you bet over fifty or under fifty, so you're talking about sixty just because I think when teams get formed like this at the beginning of the year, it takes twenty thirty games to kind of gel. So maybe that's what hurts them. This one I thought was interesting to finish as a top three seed. Vegas actually thinks it's more likely that they don't finish as a top three seed in the East. That seems kind of crazy to me. Top four, top three, top three.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you look at this, Bron too, Bron don't really care.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes the regular season doesn't matter. It's not even that though. Sometimes it's about the matchup. Look for that right team to focus on, and maybe it's not.
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Speaker 2: And you know, like they let them beat each other. I deal with them.
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Speaker 4: But if you think about it, it's Nicks. So Nick's Sixers, Celtics.
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Speaker 3: Who else?
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Speaker 4: The heat? Are they getting over them? The Pistons? Maybe Pistons had a great year. Pistons, Pistons are there?
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Speaker 6: Cavaliers?
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Speaker 1: You hear it is no listen, I love k It's a big dude that got to step up.
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Speaker 2: Oh Jensen Duran, Yeah, I think gonna sign and that should have pited. I usually kissed off Jaymien.
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Speaker 3: You bad. Now he goes back to what you.
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Speaker 4: Were saying about regular season versus playoffs. Oh yeah, because Lebron in the playoffs has the blueprint.
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Speaker 2: But it's also not the same speed, the same effort. It's a different ball game. After playoffs. It's like, all right now, now, if I'm gonna tear my my achilles, this is how I'm gonna do it. You know what I'm saying. I'm going for it. It's just a different level. It's I would want to go into battle.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, So who you think gonna win the Eastern Conference gonna go to the finals. Ain't gonna be the championship from the East to Nick Nicks over.
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Speaker 4: The championship, I didn't bring Cleveland.
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying over Cleveland. I'm not bringing Cleveland in it is.
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Speaker 4: He didn't stutter over.
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Speaker 3: I think that.
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Speaker 2: Would be close and over Miami. Hell yeah, something, Lamb, you gotta ask something. You can't just switch Eastern Conference teams and now you just you just win. You don't just win now because you switch jerseys. I think you can get some new weather thinking gonna get a championship. You can't just change temperatures, climate change, and y'all it's a winner again. Like, no, bro, he gotta he don't need some help. I just think that the DNA and a team just gotta they just gotta add a little bit of something that's creative. Way uh yeah, but they also need somebody that could create, right, because it's like Gianni's also at the end of the game. He has the James Harden problem. You don't have a go to move that we can't double team. I've been telling people for years. I don't know what's going on with James Harden. All he gotta do, James, I don't know. If you're watching this, get you a too dribble, pull up, fade away, stop stepping back, stop the floater too hard, dribbles at his shoulder, Stop shoot the fade away that way. If they double, it don't matter. Mellow told me, it don't matter. Something I work with, it don't matter. Stop talking to me about it not passing it to you. Go get the rebound for real. Go get the rebound, my boy. But I'm not gonna make an indecisive past, sup.
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Speaker 4: When you were walking like seventh ave and in the next Jersey, I told him I was gonna do that. Can you explain to people because from the outside, like somebody like Shaq, he thinks all fans are creating, they're all knuckleheads or whatever. But that was such a different friend, that was such a different energy in New York.
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Speaker 6: What was it like for you to experience it?
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Speaker 2: So one one it was like this they had trample Swish with too much love, but it was it was because Swiss was trying to keep it low. He trying to duck his head, trying not to get noticed. He was just sort of standing and I'm like, well, you can't do that with no crowd. I'm a taste the Chicago guy love a big crowd, but I know how you gotta sometimes why in your stands, how you gotta move. So when I when I when I was on the podcast, they was under the comments saying like show if they win the next game, like you gotta walk seven, like you ain't gonna walk sep off. Then they're like, man, if they don't win this next game, you gotta wear your jersey and South and I'm like, I'll wear my jersey. But I was just trolling, and then it came to it. I'm like, well, I'll wear the jersey. And then they won and they was like shump, you better walk seup and that we're out here right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, man, So I walked outside.
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Speaker 2: But it was good because it was like it was so much love though, like it was we wanted to do that so bad for the next and couldn't do it.
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Speaker 3: So for them to be doing that.
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Speaker 2: I just felt like, before y'all, if y'all are gonna hold up that gold trophy, before y'all do it, I'm gonna come show love now because I'm like, when y'all win I didn't do that. I can't be there like after winning, I wish I would have won, and then we'd have been having a parade for some people that didn't win for this, Like you know what I'm saying. I wasn't rocking with that. I'm like, nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna be a face on the float where it's like, oh man, look and Shump's here.
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Speaker 3: It's like, Trump don't get no ring for this.
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Speaker 2: He did have.
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Speaker 6: People on the parade route.
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Speaker 3: I was crazy. It was no disrespect. I give it. I get the love.
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Speaker 6: Rule, my god, Joe rule was where's job?
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Speaker 4: He was right there best. Like to what you said, I thought the two things that were really cool. As someone who lives in New York, you could have the New York City Marathon and if you don't know what's going on, it won't mess up your day. It's the only city that's so big that nothing takes over. The Knicks took over. That was that was crazy to experience then. And I thought the other thing was it was really cool that they win and people were like this was for Chris Childs and for Starks and and you're like they appreciated their history so much. This is for Julius Rant like everyone on the journey to it. It was it was everybody coming again.
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Speaker 2: I just that's the only part I didn't get, Like, I don't feel that way. It wasn't like they didn't do that. I don't want Jaylen Brunson ever to feel like this had to do with me. Bro, you was serving You've been serving chips for five That's what I'm This is what I'm trying to tell people. Though he been doing this silently, like well, we still ain't giving him the credit, like he's just too small. Think it could happen. Bro, I just say I never seen it. Show me if it could happen. Now he showed us. It's like no, Bro, they they've been doing they thing like they supposed to have been doing. Though, Like I couldn't feel like I need to be this needs to be about me. Like that's why I was like, what was it Game four or Game three? I did that.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure which game it was one of those.
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Speaker 2: It was one of them too, But yeah, I was out there because I'm like, man, let me show my love and give pay my respects, do everything because this is about to be a zoo. I'm like, next week, oh, this about to be a zoo. It was a by all means. It was because I was surprised because I actually never seen it. I was surprised to see a lot of the Knicks players there. Yeah, like it was a lot, a lot, Like I was like, I ain't never seen that before. It was insane, bro. And I'm like, at this point, unless y'all giving rings out, like I'm not coming because it was just too much like I would have felt like I just didn't want the players. I couldn't imagine what that feels like as a player, somebody that had a bigger brand that didn't win to be there. It's like, and I know, and I know exactly what you're talking about. So me and Kobe first four years we got swept. Nobody was around, couldn't find nobody belief. Soon as they get that first championship, I go to hug Kobe. Here come Magic Johnson, Like, damn Magic.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we.
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Speaker 4: Do you think because you won that hit you even harder because you knew what it was like to have want to change.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's special.
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Speaker 2: It's special, like and it's like, bro, people be in their mind the whole season, like everybody, like, I think of Like when I think of that, I think of Mike kel Bridges, think about the mental battle that he just had to deal with people saying he sucked his Instagram.
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Speaker 4: He went to the first two months where people are like, he can't even shoot anymore.
00:26:11
Speaker 2: Steve, and they going in on him. They're like, he can't do this, he can't do that. We need more production. And we was going in on him because we just looking at the numbers, saying, man, if they're gonna win the night, they need more how to do we knowing what he brings to the table, he just wasn't playing well.
00:26:24
Speaker 4: You're right, it was.
00:26:24
Speaker 6: They traded all these draft picks for him.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: It was all on him. He kept his face like this. The man said, yep. They was talking about how he needs to change shooting all this. He listened to everything, blocked everything out. And then you get to the top of the mountain, you play your best basketball to wrap up the rest of this series, and then it's like why y'all got floats that I just didn't want nobody looking at me feeling like.
00:26:50
Speaker 3: That, like why is he mine here? Yeah?
00:26:53
Speaker 2: Like what did you have to do like that ACL was two years ago, buddy, Like you know what made is it a wrap on that chap?
00:27:03
Speaker 4: How appropriate is it that you guys, your twenty sixteen team just went on that like.
00:27:08
Speaker 3: European they gonna go on something like that.
00:27:12
Speaker 6: But but that just shows you that was your team.
00:27:16
Speaker 4: Those were the guys that you went to war with.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: Especially, you ain't see us inviting the old calves on our damn championship.
00:27:23
Speaker 9: No retreat, Oh Mazzi, Hey Mazzi, I just want you to know I ain't set it up and none do.
00:27:35
Speaker 3: I orchestrated. She was told to join the trip late too, like shuping straight to Instagram? Where the hell is money? Invite?
00:27:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh hey boy, you know I visioned it. I love was a psychod. They tell him be quiet. He started speaking Russian to they ass He says some crazy today. Hell, bro, I used to be telling Bosie to go off them, go off Tipathy Bosco.
00:27:58
Speaker 4: For no bit. None of you know what he's saying.
00:28:00
Speaker 3: He's just firsting what he said. But he let it go. He let it go. You can't say nothing he speaking Russia.
00:28:06
Speaker 4: Was there ever a point on your trip together that that Lebron gave any inkling, just at least gonna keep playing.
00:28:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's you know, he got his little was that the old boy to sit down?
00:28:19
Speaker 3: Was that an old boys trip? It was? It was all It was all boys and you know what I mean. But you know I had some company. I ain't gonna lie some company. No, it's cool. I can do what I want. I can do it from man.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: Bron got his little He got his little what you called a little It looked like a fanny pack, but it's a pad for his back. And he was sitting like this. Anytime he come over there talking to me like this.
00:28:51
Speaker 3: But he's just two. Yeah, it's still playing. He's still at it. What you mean?
00:28:56
Speaker 2: He had the plate? His plate was all it was all isolated, you know what I mean, food groups and small portions.
00:29:03
Speaker 3: I'm oh yeah.
00:29:04
Speaker 4: So when he when you see him, if he's ever like this, you're like, oh, yeah, he retired.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: If that man, if I came in Bron was sitting with some bad posture, I'd be like, sweaty, you've done you you over. I've never seen him like right now, he's still like this, Guarantee, I've never seen him sit.
00:29:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen him sit bad.
00:29:25
Speaker 6: Like a feeling. He'll never even when he doesn't listen.
00:29:29
Speaker 3: Trust me, I couldn't wait.
00:29:31
Speaker 2: So when the doctor told me to let my body reset from all the injuries, I overcompensated my way back from when they told me to just reset.
00:29:40
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. I tried, my heartest.
00:29:41
Speaker 2: I can't get a beer belly, but I tried, just because it was like, I ain't never not been in shape, Like it's cool.
00:29:48
Speaker 1: I think everybody's is overall look overall not not seeing what Lebron is really doing quite a century. Yeah, yeah, to think about it. So when I was when I was playing, I had two thousand points, and you look up at that thirty six thirty eight? What the Korean got thirty eight? You're like, damn, Brian got forty five thousand points. Right now, that man is gonna end up with fifty three thousand points. It's gonna never be broken again.
00:30:15
Speaker 3: Ever.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: Your ass gonna be dead. I'm gonna be dead, We're all gonna be dead. And the only guy that's gonna get close to is when they changed the game in twenty ninety six, when they have four pointers and five pointers and half court. Y'alls work twenty point That man is gonna have fifty three thousand.
00:30:29
Speaker 2: By the way, y'all bett not wait for all us to be dead and start adding no four point line.
00:30:34
Speaker 3: Oh I know right, No, yeah, y'all come back and haunch all.
00:30:38
Speaker 2: Y'all had the worst basketball gods ever were coming back to the.
00:30:42
Speaker 3: Block six man style. I'm yeah, six man six man style.
00:30:48
Speaker 4: Shout out Marlon Robans, shump let it go like no, Adam Silver, you seem really tired.
00:30:57
Speaker 6: I've been getting haunted by emon shump.
00:31:00
Speaker 2: Out everybody trying to score. I ain't letting nothing score today. It's gonna be a scoreless game. Ain't nobody scoring. Oh, y'all suck, but it's gonna it's great. Do you think that's the main Yeah, think about what happened into the Hall of Fame. People are just playing a numbers game. It don't even matter. Like so many people in the Hall of Fame.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: I'll be like, huh, yeah, that's a that's he believes there.
00:31:24
Speaker 2: Should be two Hall of Fames going crazy because it just once you start, even though I get points and I get everything, it's like it gotta go based off the years you play and the meaningfulness of the years. Like Rudy Gobert Hall of Famer. Why you gotta do me like I'm just I'm a go Bear fan. Now I know what he did in the playoffs? To yo, I'm a Hall of Famer.
00:31:48
Speaker 6: Yes, or No, four time defensive player of the year.
00:31:52
Speaker 4: Huh, four time defensive player of the year. No, thank you, I know, but he's gonna get in thank you.
00:31:57
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I have real scorers that ask for ball screen when they saw me.
00:32:01
Speaker 6: What you said about a thank you get him.
00:32:05
Speaker 4: So what you said about points is happening in the NFL Hall of Fame for quarterbacks and wide receivers because the game is so much different that back then, if you threw for three thousand yards was a big deal. Now you have to throw for four thousands. A lot of wide receivers like the Tory Holtz, the Isaac Bruces, these wide receivers that in the late nineties, early two thousands, you're like guaranteed in talking about.
00:32:27
Speaker 1: Now, I ain't talking about Isaac balk about. Now give me your name, NFL, give me name, Mega Tron, Yes, okay, Philip Rivers. I don't know Philip here's a quarterback.
00:32:37
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's got like sixty thousand passing yards. You know what I mean, that's a lot. Eli Manning is like that perfect guy, where like he's got two super Bowls, but if you look at his career record is five hundred.
00:32:54
Speaker 6: I didn't know, but he's got They did on the biggest stages.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: Man, I got to a Philip Rivers. I don't know.
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Anyway, So well, I want to I want to ask this because to both of you guys, you talked about Michel Bridges beginning of the year, end of the year. Beginning of the year, Wemby was an angel. He was out there with with monks learning how to be like spiritual in the off season.
00:33:22
Speaker 3: That's so funny, man, you know what I mean?
00:33:24
Speaker 4: And now I thought he was an angel and now at the end of the year he becomes this full villain he was.
00:33:30
Speaker 3: Do you all not remember last year when they was beating this man up?
00:33:36
Speaker 6: Hold on, I think you guys are in different.
00:33:39
Speaker 2: The previous year when CP was there, he was putting Wemby on his ass totally. It's been two three years of ass whoopings. He been waiting to slap somebody I know is like, no big man. N there's no nice big man out there. What maybe Rudy Gobert. Rudy is nice. He's like a nice He's a good guy, bro. He was a nice guy shout out to take a picture with these kids that was so scared to take a picture of it. He's like a really good guy. But it's like until he tell a joke, box ain't coming up to him. As for those picture, he looked bad. Talk the dude, what was your question?
00:34:19
Speaker 4: And why is Wenaby a villain in New York? He is like the villain.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: Because you know he smacked. He smacked, you know, because you New York people bullets. You think you can hit somebody, ain't nobody will hit you back straight up though, I'm glad he he well, I'm glad he turned. Oh yeah, I'm glad he turned aggressively because I don't want you to ever hit nobody. But I'm glad he played like a big man and turn aggress.
00:34:42
Speaker 4: And then he pushed.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jaylen Bronson grabbed the man jersey and his skin and pierced it.
00:34:50
Speaker 3: He do it, his dad should tell us to do it.
00:34:53
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm I do it.
00:34:59
Speaker 3: People. I know my.
00:35:00
Speaker 4: Wife's family is like Victor woman Yama, and I'm like, he's a great guy.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I should have got mad at Trey Young because Trey Young tried to rip Jaylor bruston Jersey. He didn't always used to cut it a little bit. Trey is just you gotta cut it a little bit. Man.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: He took he tried to do it. Then he just kind of folding in through it. So that was real when you didn't think it through. He didn't. He didn't have.
00:35:30
Speaker 2: To slit an he try to just because the kids Jersey. Now it's the NBA. Hey, we got that new TV deal. Them jerseys is strong. They getting paid paid. Boy, it's gambling Bundy. Now, you can't just rip a jersey like that, No, bo dog. You gotta slit it like Michael Jackson. He used to have a little slit. Its coming, you know it's coming. You gotta have a little splitting there. Get you the Hayes Tea.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: Speaking of women, you know, we spent a lot of time talking about the East and Comference. Who do you think is coming out of the Western Conference? And which conference do you think is stronger, Eastern or Western? I think the East just became a lot more exciting. East got that old school basketball.
00:36:11
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm finna rewatch when when I used to watch Jamaal mash Burn and you know what I'm saying, and Miss Richmond, like they have that three four style guy. They got a lot of that sprinkled around the East right now. And I think it's gonna come down to the end of games shot making again, but not like how it is now where it's like we you might get a three ball for game point, Like nah, I think it's about to go back to the eighteen footer. Can you dance right here in the middle of the court because I don't want a double team coming And we're gonna see a lot more of that. But the West, I think people fail to realize the West wasn't healthy.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: I agree, man, the thunder were beat up all year long.
00:36:58
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't get him that use because it's part of it, Yeah, part of the aj Mitchell not finishing that series when he was being in absolute Yeah I didn't know he could score it like that.
00:37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know he did.
00:37:18
Speaker 2: I was like, is it really plug and play with this group? Like everybody can score it. But once he went down, it was okay. They ain't got super superpowers, you know what I'm saying, They just super Yeah, but after the cape, that's it.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: I asked all my all the coaches this question. The game to me now is boring, and let me explain. Everybody plays the same way. Why the analytics? Yeah, but still why like you why like.
00:37:49
Speaker 4: Three is worth more than a two?
00:37:50
Speaker 1: Okay, but you can't get no plays. They get you floppy, you know, like like down.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: What killed me?
00:37:56
Speaker 4: And there's no progressions, no more.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's just doing that.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like if we go down, if we run a play, if we just run for a cross and we just bring a shack off, if I throw this Downhill and this man go and he put them up a white right hand dunk, all bets are off for this quarter until y'all figure out this simple cross screen and I throw this ball to Hill, You're I will run this to death. That doesn't exist anymore. There's no point guard that says that worked. It's weird as hell. Like when we used to play Atlanta Hawks, Jeff Tige. Say what you want about him. If you think Jeff t about to run a play after you can't figure out this Kyle core of a drag screen, you're out your mind.
00:38:43
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he gonna he gonna do all type of yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker 2: No one is coming like it's coming, bro, We're not doing nothing. Yeah, you could guard me however you want up the court. Soon as I get here. All I'm trying to wait for is him boom. It's gonna be right there and it's gonna be a three time out. You go out the game. It's like, we don't get none of that.
00:39:05
Speaker 1: No more hate about the games. So I went to overtime game. They played the same way.
00:39:11
Speaker 3: Real talk. Where's the kids like just dribble hand and man man like when they make them our position changed. Yes, it's positionless baskets.
00:39:20
Speaker 4: I think we have a lot of scores now at the point guard posess your skill.
00:39:23
Speaker 2: It's all skill based you. You don't have the Jason kids like Jason Kidd man. I don't know if I've told this story before. Jason Kidd, Mike Woodson came drew up a play. This was like end of the games. We listened to it. Jay Kidd huddled us right back up. We're not running that. When you get ready to go do this. They about to try and do this. You're gonna set a back screen. This man gonna be a wide open in the corner. Were like, huh better looking at me, like do what Jason? Kids, If you don't do it, Jason kidds saying, and get out my face. You don't get it. All you gotta do is set the back screen. Bet, I'm gonna do it. Set the basket green for Tyson. Everybody ran to Tyson, throw it to the corner. We up out of there. I'm like this, this is crazy, go ahead bucket. Like after that, they just they're just walking out like, man, get this time out. You know what I'm saying. Everybody jumping up and down. Woody over there laughing because he knowing he just called my playoff. But it's likeded now. If you watch the game, they will come down dribbling and you can see it on their face like, oh he opened. It's like soap. They left him open, Like what the fuck am I watch? I really be thinking that, Like, bro, they are leaving him open on purpose, and y'all are giving him the ball, like what are y'all doing? Like there's no discipline in it. It's just whoever's available right now. You got it rolling, You're finna get your average. He finna get his average. It's like, nah, dog, we let us see a chink in your armor. We're gonna go with that all night, all night. What you you you? You you questionable for the game. You got a bone bruise on your right knee. Oh baby, jap step what jap stick? That's why everybody driving left off the ball screak hit him.
00:41:22
Speaker 1: And that's why every time somebody played Minnesota.
00:41:26
Speaker 2: Straight up, yeah, playing our hands, you're going way from the basket.
00:41:33
Speaker 3: We're gonna get what we want and you can't dance.
00:41:36
Speaker 4: So I've heard this about Jason, Like Vince was telling me about the first time he played with Jason Kidd was like, what the sky's visions insane? Was there ever a time where someone tried to do that to you and it didn't? Like? Not? Jason Kidd was like, you set that screen, you turned, ball's gonna be there, and then the play You're like, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about at all. Like has been the opposite. Nah, I think where was there a guy that thought he was like that and he was not.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: Like, alright, there's one there's one guy that he never did like that, but he would say that I'd be like.
00:42:19
Speaker 3: Would be thinking of thinking of something totally.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Different, Like you know how people would be like we'll all we'll all leave a huddle like got it, like we own some he's got it, like you got a double check that he got it real though he might be thinking like like he'll have the whole play, but you don't realize it. He just saw the part where you gave him the ball. The rest of the ball once against the ball, that's it. That because he was with Nash, so he would like just.
00:42:56
Speaker 3: How he is.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: He's good like pictures somebody faking. There's some people that shot fake. They're taught to take the ball, bring it around pivot. Stat used to shot fake by turn and use the ball to push it in his chest and then dunk.
00:43:14
Speaker 3: You.
00:43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see it a little different because you just made that really difficult to have to be.
00:43:20
Speaker 1: That a lot of players like that when the coach draws up the huddle by trying to get back like I have no clue what man, Just go get the thing to You're gonna get okay, okay, yeah, j r Smith nine one one emergency only he might not here to play. He might not know what he might not know what time is left. If I give to him and we yell shoot, he'll make it.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: Yeah. Some people just.
00:43:47
Speaker 6: When he needs to huddle, he's like break got it.
00:43:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's like hell. Or he'll be like take what we doing? Just have that moment because he locked in on something else. But it's like, that's the focus you need to shoot jump shots. No consciousness, no conscience, I have no see me, I'm gonna be so worried about the play that I got to remember, I might not be focused on the shot that I got to make at the end, I'm trying to execute to get open. Went off the shoulder right thinking about that jumper here?
00:44:13
Speaker 3: How to do it?
00:44:14
Speaker 4: What do you I heard someone say that there was a chance Lebron would have gone to Cleveland if they were able to make a trade for Kyrie. Do you think there was any maybe truth to that?
00:44:24
Speaker 2: If I would have believed that their players short over there, It's it's hard to.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: Him and Kyrie ain't rocking like that no more.
00:44:31
Speaker 6: He would know more than us.
00:44:32
Speaker 3: I know, but I know too.
00:44:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have it could have happened. Yeah, we grown up now though ky ain't just what Kyrie like, man Kyrie.
00:44:44
Speaker 3: He wins. If Kyrie wouldn't have had no choice, if it would.
00:44:48
Speaker 1: Have got done, Okay, well that what he just said.
00:44:52
Speaker 6: Right then, he would have still came over there.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: They'd have sat down, had a nice dinner, shed a nice bottle of wine. You know what I'm saying, talk to.
00:45:03
Speaker 2: Little history of a force trade, had a couple of memories about the championship together. Yeah, you know, everybody's happy. It would have been wonderful.
00:45:13
Speaker 4: He did Bertie macren tooth theme song for.
00:45:18
Speaker 3: Great Little Reach. You can get online, go to the generation.
00:45:24
Speaker 6: It's incredible.
00:45:25
Speaker 1: It's a cold world out here, and a lot of guys are dealing with a lot of drummer. If you can give someone in the NBA a break from the nonsense, who would that person be.
00:45:34
Speaker 3: A break from a nonsense? Oh? John Morant, Yeah, John Morant.
00:45:41
Speaker 2: I'm so honestly, I'm so excited for him to start this journey in boiler I I want him to prove everybody wrong, so bad, so great. It makes me so angry, and it's in retrospect, but it's like out of anybody that need to have one, y'all don't think he would.
00:45:59
Speaker 3: Like just the audacity of the statementhen people are like, what is he ever going for?
00:46:03
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, they making two hundred million dollars, Like in three years, they're gonna have two hundred million. Like you don't think he's gonna have a firearm to defend himself. I'm like a security guard to rob him his own security, Like what Like it's a lot of money.
00:46:20
Speaker 3: So it's like perspective wise, I just yeah, he.
00:46:23
Speaker 2: Did a dumb thing by going on the internet with it, But it's like I just want him to be able to right the wrong, not even off the court, but on the court, to be healthy and doing the thing that It's like, this is what got him in this situation.
00:46:38
Speaker 1: No, because I don't think what he did was wrong because, like you know what I'm saying, they sometimes I understand our culture. Yeah, like you got it, But he was just in a moment. In the moment.
00:46:49
Speaker 3: It was part of the lyrics.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: It's it's like how do yeah, yeah, just it called for that for the NBA Young Boy song, call for that, And it's like he probably thought he was on a close friends or whatever, whatever the hell happened.
00:47:04
Speaker 1: Because the law says we can have them. Law says we can have them. And that's what I said. He did nothing wrong.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: We can have them concealed, just the right as a as an athlete. You know, he just got caught off but a role model.
00:47:19
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I get it, but it's just like I wish that he would have just handled that and then had the number one season that he ever had, because it's like, please erase that this man can hoop.
00:47:30
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
00:47:31
Speaker 4: I don't want to when he was going up and back with the Warriors.
00:47:34
Speaker 3: I don't want him to be tarnished.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: The problem was the first time we gave him a pastime was Goofy. Yeah, yeah, that was Goofy. First of all, ain't nobody gonna put you in Utah.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: Portland when he was in YouTube in Utah.
00:47:48
Speaker 1: Give me your goddamn chain boy, Give me the goddamn change. So that was Utah White Voice, Give me the goddamn change, morant.
00:48:00
Speaker 4: It was like kind of country, come on, give it. I can't say the whole thing.
00:48:05
Speaker 3: Give me that goddamn chain boy, come over here to the.
00:48:07
Speaker 4: God damn you know you told me like, well, hello sir, Yeah.
00:48:10
Speaker 6: I believe I'm gonna need that chain. Yeah, put it in my hand.
00:48:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:48:16
Speaker 4: Or you can go to church.
00:48:18
Speaker 2: You told me one of the places that, like one of them halted movies where it's like they do robberies but they just smileless here at you.
00:48:25
Speaker 3: You're gonna get it. You call anybody in your car.
00:48:27
Speaker 6: Now, I'll find you.
00:48:32
Speaker 3: So or like the from yeah, what from.
00:48:37
Speaker 2: My gosh, just a little what what?
00:48:45
Speaker 3: Well?
00:48:45
Speaker 2: Good luck this year? Job morana wsh you were bro. Yeah, for sure, we'll talk. Turn that thing around. Man, we're gonna be there. I'm gonna be there with a suit on, ready to watch.
00:48:54
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00:48:57
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00:50:55
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00:51:44
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00:51:46
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00:51:50
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00:51:57
Speaker 4: Sucking your tooth?
00:51:59
Speaker 3: Black people?
00:52:00
Speaker 4: Uh, Central pe.
00:52:02
Speaker 3: White people w p s.
00:52:04
Speaker 4: So the only time I see clips are when I see famous black people in Central We're doing white people doing white people?
00:52:13
Speaker 3: Are there for the white people?
00:52:15
Speaker 4: Did you like it at all?
00:52:17
Speaker 3: No?
00:52:17
Speaker 6: So what is it like for us?
00:52:18
Speaker 3: Wait?
00:52:19
Speaker 2: You ain't going to the party with the tapestry on the ceiling with no, No, you got to go to that first. See ladies, can y'all come get shot? Take him?
00:52:27
Speaker 6: Why do you hate it?
00:52:29
Speaker 3: No? He ain't go to this.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: Part went when I was married. So rent rent the boat and you get there and that book you DJing that s ain't.
00:52:38
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't step you. I can't believe you did say thousand.
00:52:51
Speaker 6: I don't watch this.
00:52:58
Speaker 3: Like make it out here that.
00:53:00
Speaker 4: I can't believe that was the reason.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: Well when they threw the ball, you shouted at the crowd. That's lit. I say, no, I don't get more.
00:53:10
Speaker 4: Uh do do do do music? White people?
00:53:13
Speaker 3: Exactly?
00:53:18
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say the condiment mustard.
00:53:21
Speaker 3: Condiment, mustard like mustard got to be white people gotta be. I'm gonna I like, I like mustard.
00:53:29
Speaker 6: Though do you put do you put that on hot dog?
00:53:31
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:53:31
Speaker 2: I only put mustard on hot dog. I don't us. I never knew what condiments were.
00:53:38
Speaker 4: So when I said that, you were like, you put mustard and.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: No, no, no condiments. But I thought the mints.
00:53:44
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing, no no finish that.
00:53:48
Speaker 3: I just I thought I had to do something.
00:53:50
Speaker 6: Nothing flavored condoms.
00:53:53
Speaker 2: When I was young, young, when I was young, No, no, that's what you got to say.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: So when I was young, you know.
00:54:02
Speaker 1: When I was young, I was the young lady and the guy said excuse me, man, you want some condiments. I was like, what, yes, I'm thinking men's fun. Nothing meant nothing.
00:54:15
Speaker 2: When when I was young, no running out when that told me my next caption when I was young.
00:54:23
Speaker 6: Because like a condiment when I was young.
00:54:25
Speaker 3: Yea yeah, the fact when I was young, I did not no boat condiment snow boat.
00:54:36
Speaker 4: Uh storming the streets when your team wins.
00:54:39
Speaker 1: Because they say black people. Because they say when you get you're still on the continents. This is why I thought this this broker, because they say get himself. They say, when you get kissing a certain area with the mints, you feel.
00:54:52
Speaker 3: Like a tangle.
00:54:55
Speaker 6: You noticed that he grabbed my leg after.
00:55:00
Speaker 10: They just say right, big podcast, pop Rocks goes crazy, crazy, yo, out of control.
00:55:17
Speaker 3: He's going to.
00:55:17
Speaker 11: Try someone is going to be if you see someone in the e R try all right, pop Rocks like people any more?
00:55:38
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely pop Rocks. And that's the nerds that pop your mouth.
00:55:42
Speaker 4: Ball blaws, the nerds that you pop in the mouth.
00:55:47
Speaker 3: That's crazy crazy. Do you like?
00:55:50
Speaker 4: Can't you want to try shacks shack delicious if you haven't tried it. The slams are incredible, But you think yeah, do you think storming the streets where your team wins is BPS.
00:56:12
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of ws out there, Whites, no, the I mean the whites. This is this is a tradition for y'all to storm the court at the upset. I love this white storm the court. Blacks are on the streets. Yea, we would just love I think about it fourth of July. That really we shouldn't even be out there celebrating that. But if y'all gonna give us an excuse to cook on the street, we gonna rock out. What play the music?
00:56:40
Speaker 3: Right?
00:56:40
Speaker 6: Harlem is just Roman candle wars.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: We'll do it all. But we're not gonna tell you Happy Independence Day. I have not had a Roman candle war, nobody. We ain't gonna we ain't gonna do the pledge of allegiance. But we'll pop the fireworks. Though black people love a good time in the street.
00:57:00
Speaker 4: We love fireworks. Does feel a little bit, get a little bit of motion.
00:57:08
Speaker 3: You gotta rings and.
00:57:10
Speaker 4: Rings, and the rings are the most underrated part.
00:57:15
Speaker 3: You got a little you gotta make it a little.
00:57:20
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see the result.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked at me, but food like, Yeah, we could be good me and you're in the same lock room. Yeah, though we would have been.
00:57:37
Speaker 2: Been a good times. Been hard to get a bucket though, I'm telling you it had been rough to get a bucket.
00:57:43
Speaker 3: But I can say y'all asked the shack. I was in the tyson and it was hell. It was hell for him t go in there.
00:57:50
Speaker 2: I did all that to your handle, you know, an adjusted adjusted, and now you gotta lay it past them.
00:57:55
Speaker 3: They're gonna smeck that to the third bro. So that was about.
00:57:59
Speaker 4: That was about thirty five minutes of hanging out. And now you guys are like, if we were in the locker room together, how quickly can you tell new free agent comes in there with certain guys if they're gonna vibe or not?
00:58:09
Speaker 3: Oh no, best yeah either.
00:58:11
Speaker 2: It'd be like one practice for real, that's all I need practice and ones after practice.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: I know who my guys are and pleasant. When I was running things, I already knew about you anywhere before I brought you in.
00:58:21
Speaker 4: You I didn't tell was there ever a time where you thought you wanted a guy? Then you paused, then you got research, and we're like, it's not gonna work.
00:58:31
Speaker 3: Brian Williams. When that passed, I'm not gonna talk about it was gone. But he was different.
00:58:37
Speaker 4: Oh he wasn't, which I thought as far as like off the court.
00:58:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, off the way he was. He was different, really different. And then it was there was a cat from Memphis, David vond other than there. He was here was different too.
00:58:51
Speaker 3: And what happened was swash poker Joe. I Sush stayed with you. I mean, Kobe happy, Yeah, problem, what's something. I'm like, Smush, foe, what we doing? But he was a dog. I'm like, y'all need a dog, y'all keep a dog with you.
00:59:08
Speaker 1: We had to where there's a big man alliance and the guard lines. I controlled all the fours because I really can't talk to guards about picks on it. So Kobe and b Shaw and Rick they had they had the guard lines. I had the power forward and the big man line. So I scolded all the big guys. So Kobe, Kobe is being that boy ass and yeah, just killed me.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: But I liked like that, Like Kobe would have gain. I would have been less nuts if I had like I had Mellow. And when I tell you, Mellow is really mellow, like he's you can't rattle him like. Having KG do that to him was like musty TV never seen that man off his cool.
00:59:54
Speaker 3: That was the only time he ever been mad like that.
00:59:57
Speaker 2: You would say that, no, I can't mellow tell me not to tell you all, but but yeah, he just said the wrong thing. You know what I'm saying. It was deeper than wrap. It wasn't that though. That would have been like that ain't even a good enough joke. That's not good enough that I've seen it online, honey nut Cheerios. It's like, bro, unless y'all was getting a serial deal, I don't even know why y'all said that. I'd have got paid like I'd have been mad to say I was KG like soty y'all basically just put that on my name ge like, and I ain't getting paid by then? Why are y'all throwing them on me like you I'd have been blue down, like get my name up out of that. But when I heard it, though I had the thing, I was like, damn your wife, like honey Cheerio was like stupid, stupid. Some internet white peopleuns delicious. They definitely put that together. They're not even the best that's not even the flavor for I will say that sick one of the colorful ones. Stand up Friday, not Cheerios. The first like eight seconds when the milk is in there.
01:00:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable. But it some sugar on top. You got a lot?
01:01:03
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's crazy. Yeah, No, that's regular cheerios. Honey nut Cheerios has enough sugar in it. No, you want a little bit more.
01:01:10
Speaker 3: Other white people, do you put sugar on?
01:01:12
Speaker 10: Do you even eat cereal? But you did sugar on everything. That's terrible for me, right, I mean really great what I'm saying.
01:01:21
Speaker 2: How did earlier we was.
01:01:23
Speaker 3: All terrible with eating?
01:01:24
Speaker 4: I know he had he had a post retirement where he said, I want to try and get a beer belly. Was there ever a time where you said, I'm not going to be Diesel, but I really want to get fat when you just retire. Was ever a time and you said I just want to enjoy life and get fat.
01:01:38
Speaker 1: I never said I wanted to get fat, but I ended up getting fat?
01:01:41
Speaker 3: You did?
01:01:41
Speaker 1: I just wonder I was just want just just just not It was fun not waking up at not everyone yes, and not worrying about what you ate. But then one day I'm looking at my belly at T and T and I'm looking at Charles.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, bro.
01:01:58
Speaker 4: There is a picture in tea in the lunch room where all the production people eat, and I went there to get like a bag of popcorn, and there's a picture and all four members of inside are thirty pounds heavier than what they are now. At least I'll take a picture next time i'm there. But like Shaq is breathing heavy in the photo, like.
01:02:18
Speaker 3: It's a damn damn, I'm taking that old Chuck Chuck.
01:02:24
Speaker 6: The picture is leaning to the side that Chuck is on. Ernie.
01:02:29
Speaker 2: Ernie was big in it, like you guys must have been having a time. So everybody was just living life.
01:02:36
Speaker 3: It was great.
01:02:36
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing though, because I had to do every off season. It seemed like I was having another secret surgery or a surgery that I had to fix this or fix that. Then I gotta sit out, then I gotta come back. And now I'm a mad man in my brain and I'm not even as good as Dad because I'm just psycho, because you're just in it.
01:02:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm doing stuff, but I'm like a robot.
01:02:57
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm there, but I'm totally thinking about garden MAXI tomorrow, you know what. I'm like, I'm not even here. So it's like when you're finally done playing, I just be like my back don't hurt, you know, yeah, like my shoulders. All right, today, let's go, let's go play some topic off. Give me the honey, nut cherials and the sugar.
01:03:20
Speaker 3: Where's the sugar?
01:03:21
Speaker 2: Guys like, I'm drinking POPSI I'm like, man, this is awesome, but it was cool because I'm like, bro, I haven't I caught a cramp in the pool.
01:03:31
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got a cramp.
01:03:34
Speaker 6: Here, like I'm gonna get fat, and then couldn't get fat.
01:03:36
Speaker 4: And do it.
01:03:37
Speaker 2: And then right after that it's like little by little, I can't, like I can't turn down activity. So my daughter can get me outside and I'll be will be totally going through her little drill work. It'll be peaceful. Then it's horse and then it's one on one, Then it's can you still do this? Can you still do that? And then she go inside. She then had a drink. She winding down on how iPad and I'm still out there shooting like I can't. I gotta get active. Call of Duty does a good job of sitting me down, though, I do a wonderful job, Like that's what got me through the repair of whatever they got repaired in my knee last time.
01:04:15
Speaker 3: They was like, can you sit down for do something for six weeks? I'm like, I don't think I could do it. Did you play Call of Dude? It was a joke.
01:04:27
Speaker 2: Well, now, like I see like Aunt Vegas. Also, I never got I never got down on Atario.
01:04:32
Speaker 3: I was a nineties kid when.
01:04:34
Speaker 4: Second came out World Combat and Sonic next Linic.
01:04:42
Speaker 3: Well, NBA jam too, she's on fire?
01:04:45
Speaker 4: Oh man, uh man. I wanted to ask that. Wait, I was AUNT playing video games all the time. A lot of these NBA guys now that's how they wind down that this was not a thing when you played. Yeah, no, it was a out of bottle the club, different experience centric club.
01:05:07
Speaker 2: Like these like like what's name collect Legos? Yeah, Miles Turner, Turner shout, it's different. Now that's what they did on the NB ain't cleaned it up?
01:05:23
Speaker 6: Shack would have got that and tell me like not on my NBA, wouldn't.
01:05:26
Speaker 3: Have been dealing with it.
01:05:27
Speaker 2: This new NBA ain't gonna deal with Shaq talking about Man, I'm paying all my finds and events to ask me nothing. I'm not never doing that. I pay him mind the events, they'd been like, get him out of here, Please get him out of here. We need these guys and follow rules. They can't let like shaq Ai. They wouldn't have lasted in this NBA. This NBA has a no tolerance for boy. They got me and j R. Out of there, these would have been go. They got me in Swift. I used to play good here and there, like it was I only run for a couple of this. Oh yeah, they talked about harpouts. Y'all didn't like why's elbow. They'd be like, get this gota here for real though, It's like what do y'all is bad? You can't hack him in the whole time. Like, I'm surprised Bron never had a foul like that. Yeah, the way Bron was getting beat up that first year in Miami, I think because remember that next year they came back and him d Wade. None of them would shoot at three. They took air thing to the bucket. I was like how what we supposed to do with this? This that was crazy.
01:06:35
Speaker 6: Second year of the Heat team was unbelievable.
01:06:38
Speaker 3: D Yeah, they was not bulled.
01:06:40
Speaker 4: And you know what is so crazy about that is because that hard foul.
01:06:44
Speaker 3: No Bron always played the game right.
01:06:46
Speaker 4: The Heat team was so special that we got that one year of the Spurs because of the Heat when they was like the greatest passing Remember the twenty thirteen when they wanted all four to one over the Heat and it was like, what the f was that? That was because of the heat, Like that was a ripple in the water that three years later we saw the result of it. That was unbelievable. I can't believe Lebrons in Philly. It doesn't make sense. I'm bringing it back.
01:07:10
Speaker 2: I don't.
01:07:11
Speaker 1: I can't believe it either. However, on paper they look dangerous.
01:07:14
Speaker 4: What's your face? Why are you making that face?
01:07:17
Speaker 3: Because I don't want to. I feel like you you're conceding a victory. What do you mean conceding a victory? I think it's I think it's like I'm.
01:07:25
Speaker 4: So oh that I already think I've won. Yeah from this way, Oh, that Bron playing in Philly and he's gonna break. I don't.
01:07:36
Speaker 6: I don't make any money from.
01:07:37
Speaker 2: Everybody's about to make money. No, no, no, no, no, no, before you start, dear everybody in Philly.
01:07:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole city is going to be up.
01:07:43
Speaker 2: Everybody about to make money. Gilly is up everybody. I'm not even talking about sports gambling. I'm talking about real life jobs. Gonna mean more people hired at the arena. They're gonna need more security now. Yeah, business is about to be booming.
01:07:59
Speaker 3: After mm.
01:08:00
Speaker 4: So Lebron apparently is going to be living in New York as he should. He's gonna be able to walk around Philly to my neighborhood.
01:08:06
Speaker 3: Holdo, how are you practicing?
01:08:08
Speaker 4: Helicopter?
01:08:10
Speaker 6: JJ Redick used to drive down from Brooklyn every day. Yeah, yeah, he lived in my neighborhood.
01:08:16
Speaker 3: It's only like every day I dropped my kids off an hour Yeah, hold on, so.
01:08:22
Speaker 1: He gonna wake up in New York, got eight and one to drive to practicing and come back on.
01:08:25
Speaker 6: No, he's gonna get flown.
01:08:27
Speaker 2: He's gonna wake up probably about eight forty five. Fly if I played for Philly. I'm living in King of Prussia by the mall by the mall nut I know if yeah, y'all did right, man, he wouldn't have made it. This this new IVIEA man I say about the ball during the social media era, shack live by the ball.
01:08:51
Speaker 4: It's tripping me because the first time I saw Lebron play in person was in Philly in the Polester. I don't know if you guys know. The Polester Palestra is the place where the Big Five used to play, so like Penn Drexel, Lasal, they had all battle this old arena. And he in high school was up against this kid Maurice Rice from Strawberry Mansion, who broke Wilt Chamberlain's scoring record in Philadelphia in high school. And everybody I went there with my friend in high school, Iverson was there, All the Phillies were there, all the Eagles were there because they all wanted to see Lebron, Saint Vincent, Saint Mary's goes up like twenty thirty points. And it turned into a one on one battle between this kid, Maurice Rice and Lebron. So Maurice Rice came down, crossed him up, hit a three place, went crazy. Lebron came back, crosscross dunk. Maurice Rice came back. It's on YouTube, crossed over Lebron fell he airballs the three, but Mike Philly at that point, man, we haven't won a championship since eighty three, forty three years. I think there's only two teams that have. The Orlando Magic haven't even been a franchise for forty three years.
01:10:04
Speaker 3: And we went in this show.
01:10:07
Speaker 6: For Lebron to be back in Philly is a trip. I just it's a trip.
01:10:11
Speaker 3: If they can.
01:10:14
Speaker 4: The Magic.
01:10:14
Speaker 3: What are y'all gonna do about Jalen Brunson one man?
01:10:20
Speaker 2: We was talking about one man this season to you you know that different, and then O g went and tip that in, so we had to talk about two men different. And then Josh Hart had seven offensive rebounds and we had to talk about three men.
01:10:32
Speaker 3: It's different.
01:10:33
Speaker 2: They told us we was gonna sit off with Josh Hart. Josh Hart ain't gonna be able to hit a three. He hit six of them.
01:10:39
Speaker 3: I must say it slow.
01:10:41
Speaker 4: Brunton took wemby one on one.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: Maxi scoop Maxie was that last year DJ the child and Lebron didn't we Epica don't know what they got even if he healthy. Otherwise, other buddy I'm just saying everything got a fall, right.
01:11:10
Speaker 2: I'm just over there over the New York. You're about to get a healthy dose of Jalen Brunson. You're gonna get Josh Hart, who don't have to shoot it, but he'll score it if he got to.
01:11:21
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a question.
01:11:22
Speaker 2: O g Anooby, who was playing arguably his best basketball when he hurt his hamstring, and now he's gonna be healthy. He came back healthy and did cat busting ass. No holes in his game, don't beg for the ball, don't really care won the championship, went on Good Morning America.
01:11:37
Speaker 3: Didn't look like he cared there either. I have four championships too. He looked like he gave a damn.
01:11:43
Speaker 1: I have fortunate. I'm at you a country residu. I have four championships, two of them two of them were luck.
01:11:51
Speaker 4: Luck.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the places you don't think the Nicks championship was a little lucky.
01:11:55
Speaker 3: This year.
01:11:59
Speaker 4: They won like thirteen out of fourteen.
01:12:01
Speaker 1: All that, Jay, you don't get that tip, Jalen, you don't get that tips over j One, you finish. If you don't get that tip that you don't win that game. If dumb ass Fox don't try to score with eight second left and open, that was bad. That's what I'm saying. That's right there. Then Hulus six, that's only would have lost. No, no, if they don't let the twenty nine point in Lego, I'm just saying it was a little bit of lucky.
01:12:29
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ifs, and but it was lucky that they was born before these. No, that's crazy. I'm not saying that that's great. That's like me.
01:12:36
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying that you all won, but you.
01:12:39
Speaker 4: Had you had a lot of if your titles were luck.
01:12:42
Speaker 3: When I was up.
01:12:44
Speaker 1: Portland in the games, Robert, Yeah, yeah, we don't win that game seven. We don't win that game seven, I'm probably getting traded at something like they trade me after that one the Thursdays.
01:12:57
Speaker 4: That would be a fun whateff I'm saying for you.
01:13:00
Speaker 1: But like what happened come back? Remember remember we was up three one, came back and then they was blowing us out. If we don't win that game seven, there ain't no shock in Kobe.
01:13:10
Speaker 4: There's only one three one, and then we had.
01:13:12
Speaker 1: A series of deficier hit that point oh four. Remember that.
01:13:16
Speaker 3: Hey, why y'all used to let him wear his head man over his ears like that because I think he had that stephen A they.
01:13:24
Speaker 6: Got doing his ears though, what the headband where the hairline was?
01:13:29
Speaker 2: He would put it here and then wear it like down because you can't have it, y'all would go tell him listen, no, no, you've seen some of the head bands back then.
01:13:41
Speaker 4: So there was some crazy stuff.
01:13:42
Speaker 1: Ye had to stephen A. You know, he got the crook of head so he couldn't put it right, so he had to put it right there and then put it because that was different too.
01:13:50
Speaker 4: So are you enjoying Are you enjoying the ESPN? You enjoying being like an analyst and getting praise? You got a lot of praise this year.
01:14:01
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was cool.
01:14:02
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is I really have a problem with people that complain about they don't do about it for the longest we complain that.
01:14:10
Speaker 4: Certain analysts just wasn't.
01:14:12
Speaker 3: Like what is he talk?
01:14:13
Speaker 4: Like?
01:14:13
Speaker 3: What game did you just watch? My man?
01:14:16
Speaker 2: Like it's no way you watched the game? Like he didn't play good, Like he played awful. Yeah, and it's like you sitting here saying he played good. You just looking at the stat sheet?
01:14:24
Speaker 3: Brother?
01:14:25
Speaker 1: No, but no, but but you know why right, because we talk free throws. You know why right, because if you continue to do it, now we hating. Now we hating what you mean? Like sometimes I used to go at all my big men when they didn't play like they give you twenty two points, I'm like, nah, I need twenty nine.
01:14:41
Speaker 3: I need thirty.
01:14:42
Speaker 1: So when you keep saying what they're not doing now is hating and then come back and say, well, the game is different. We don't play like chuck and shucking to post them on. So sometimes yea, we don't play like that post anymore.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: I know, shock is Joe.
01:14:59
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, Chuck a chuck talking like this a lot lately, Chuck.
01:15:04
Speaker 1: And chuckle when we postuff but we don't give me twenty eight points. Yeah, I love it. I mean that's how it sounds sometimes. So sometimes I have to suck my word and go, he played great, because if we keep saying what they're not doing now, it's the old guys.
01:15:23
Speaker 3: That has all.
01:15:23
Speaker 2: I try to be true to that where it's like I critique guys and said that you didn't do the certain things. So now that is my turn, I pay it forward. I feel like I'm gonna highlight the good things about players. I'm gonna talk about the good, bad and ugly with basketball. And anytime they try and get me to go the gossip route or ooh this is a headline, I'd be like, I don't care.
01:15:45
Speaker 4: I feel like you navigate it well because I see you on with like Windy and a lot of the analytical guys. But I feel like you guys have a good connection. And I feel like sometimes I see the former athlete with the reporter and there's always a divide. There is no flow, and I feel like you guys have been to figure out a.
01:16:00
Speaker 2: Flow, but they've they've also leaned into that, like we all kind of we're not saying the same thing, like so we don't step on each other, so we don't feel a way about it. I think because they know from what I'm talking is a basketball standpoint, So I'm going to talk about nuances that can't affect their points. Uh. It's actually good because sometimes I really don't know the actual number and Brian will just hop right there.
01:16:25
Speaker 3: Oh no. In twenty twenty three, he averaged twenty four point eight.
01:16:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they'll know that's it is it is they they bring stuff up during that's are definitely a WPS crazy yeah only, but it's good because there's a there's a healthy balance of that.
01:16:42
Speaker 3: We do want to know when Shaq hits twenty thousand points, like.
01:16:46
Speaker 4: We want to know that when I earn it was with doing TV with guys like Chuck and Shack. It is my job to have all the information. It's his job to have feel and if he makes a point, if I have stats that can support him and make him look smarter, I do it. The other times when he makes a point and my stats are like completely different, I'll be like, we'll be right back after the break. Hey, just so you know, that's not at all. But I also think it's important for the guy, like the host. I'm not a big fan of correcting people on camera. I kind of think that sucker, to be honest. One thing I really don't like, I've never talked about this before, is when hosts, like, let's say, Shaq uses a word incorrectly. I hate when they go, that's not what that means, and I'm like, this isn't the place.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know my brother, I don't know. We gotta do the type of house.
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Speaker 2: So my brother he says something wrong, Well that's different to do the same thing to me. But I like, I like that he has that ability to check me, that need that otherwise.
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Speaker 4: Rather family is different.
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Speaker 2: But if I was on here, like even to me and with teammates, it'll be perfect because I know he'll really tell me if there's some bully totally like, yeah, he gonna laugh and joke with me. But because we laughing joke, it'll be like I can hit him, like he'll feel like, no, I'm gonna go across some shit. If he don't get through this next screen, I'm smacking Tump. All my teammates felt like that, like I could smack Shrump and in that moment he.
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Speaker 3: Not gonna fight me.
01:18:21
Speaker 4: But I honestly is one to be a friendship. You are right about that real talk like you.
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Speaker 2: Need somebody to check you and hold you accountable, dug like I wouldn't do that, Like if I was saying some bush and you let me just keep going and you got the numbers that say I'm dead dumb, like you don't.
01:18:36
Speaker 3: Let me look stupid?
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Speaker 2: Now into it after the oh that break you something about yeah, I'm kicking ass, I kick your eyes.
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Speaker 3: I come back.
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Speaker 4: I have a black guy.
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Speaker 3: Come back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Shack send us off, saying say goodbye to everybody in your new favorite voice.
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Speaker 1: I just want to say now that I have Jen and Brown, Lebron mm hm, tj tyist Maxine, I'm still not going to play in the post like Chack and Shuck, but we're going to win the championship this year.
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Speaker 3: The Good Buck.
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Speaker 2: This has been a playmaker production
Speaker 1: So you think gonna win the Eastern Conference, gonna go to the finals, ain't gonna be the championship.
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Speaker 2: The Nick Knicks, they're gonna be in the championship over Philly. I think they'd be Philly.
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Speaker 3: You don't think the Knicks championship was a little lucky this year? What are y'all gonna do about Jalen Brunson? One man?
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Speaker 2: We was talking about one man this season to you you know that different? And then O g went and tip that in, so we had to talk about two men different. And then Josh Hart had fuck seven offensive rebounds and we had to talk about three men different. They told us we was gonna sit off for Josh Hart. Josh Hart ain't gonna be able to hit a three. He hit six of them.
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Speaker 3: We must tell it slow.
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Speaker 4: Bronton took wenby one on one.
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Speaker 3: MAXI scoop Maxie? Was that last year DJ Child and Lebron and didn't we go and wed?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I do a pig big big can pull me to wig. I said, we're pig big big singing it again. I dove a pig big big compell me to win.
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Speaker 3: I do a pig.
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Speaker 5: Big big sing it again. I do a pig, I do a pig big big, singing it again, I do a.
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Speaker 6: Big What is up?
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Speaker 3: What is good?
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Speaker 6: How you're living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it?
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Speaker 2: Is the big podcast with Shack where we always do it big.
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Speaker 3: Like my nephew and history class doing it big.
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Speaker 6: May I introduce our guests?
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Speaker 3: Yes you may.
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Speaker 6: So I went back. I can rewatch the film.
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Speaker 4: I was in New York the last time I did this, so I'm glad I got to do it in person. A lockdown menace, a pickpocket threat, an absolute nightmare to check that seventeen out of Georgia tech down three to one wasn't the plan in the land. But as he now stands with a ring in his hand, he is the best person to talk to after the King made a pick that none of us planned. His second time in the Shahokah Lounge from Oak Park, Illinois, emon A sante shunper.
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Speaker 3: We're going he's going to government.
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Speaker 4: Full government, full government.
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Speaker 3: Well I appreciate that at least.
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Speaker 6: Hey, well you have to give him yours. So though we're even.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, Mana's rush on us just.
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Speaker 4: Right. You know, mine's Matthew.
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Speaker 2: So you thanks.
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Speaker 3: He looks like damn it.
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Speaker 1: So we both know Lebron pretty well. I was thinking, all right, go back to Cleveland. I got a big crib here, go to Cleveland. Then I said, no, no, no, he might go down there with with Steph Curry because him and Lebron is cool. Played Golden State, and I said, Miami, him and Jannis. Nobody expected Philly. Did you expect Philly?
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Speaker 2: In one realm of what I was thinking, yes, because every time he leaves somewhere, like the story starts. I feel like Bron likes us a challenge, but he's he's still a kid like at heart. It's like there's a story there. He goes to Philly, they haven't won, and what forty years, forty three years, they haven't touched the ring he gave somebody that hadn't seen it in fifty Then he went gay the Lakers recrown them. It's like he leave franchises, then he come and he make another franchise.
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Speaker 3: Go. It's like the challenge lies in Philly.
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Speaker 2: Now unless he was gonna go it couldn't go to New York because they just won, right, no story there.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that he was making thirty million last year and he's only making fifty fifty million last year, is only making making this year this year? Four man, do you think the room? I heard a lot of people say nobody really wanted them. Do you think that's true?
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Speaker 4: No? I think Lebron is a business man.
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Speaker 2: I think we all can look at it and say, though it's a luxury to have him, you can't spend that much money on him if you want to make your team good enough to beat who's at the top.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: People got a pretty comed out team top to bottom, but they got youth. You can't sit here and depend on broad I think it was more a youth thing, and Lebron actually saying, if I want to give by myself a chance to win, I got two years left, I don't need no money. Might as well put the best team together, put the best product together, and I go out with a bang. But he do it within history. He do it within the two years that he first come to the franchise. You get a ring within the first two years. We'll see if it's true.
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Speaker 4: It's surreal for me as a Sixers fan, Knicks fan, my son is a Knicks fan, my wife is a Knicks fan. I am a Sixers fan.
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Speaker 3: That is a wild household.
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Speaker 6: So they they're very wild household.
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Speaker 3: My wife is wild.
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Speaker 4: My wife is from Queens. I'm from outside Philadelphia And like, where was what's that? He was born in New York? Oh yeah, I said from the top, I want the Eagles. And and there was like one night where the Knicks played the Sixers and I said, whoever wins the night? I look, the Sixers were five point favorites. They lost, And I was like, if you want to raise him a Knicks fan? And now that he's two and they just won the championship. Crazy, So he's he's got his og Annobi shirt like he's very.
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Speaker 2: This is what I keep telling people. People are people are tweaking about that. They keep talking about the statue should be Jalen Brunson doing this, but that Ognobi tip, that.
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Speaker 4: Tiph just a tip, just a little bit, just to.
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Speaker 3: See how it feels.
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Speaker 4: But I never thought, like when we went through, I always thought Lebron was going to go to Golden State because I thought he might want to play for Kerr to be around high IQ guys that would be like and then also like him and Steph the motion they could do would be fun. But I always thought the Sixers roster sort of like what he had with you guys in Cleveland, where like you were the attack dogs. That's what he has now with VJ and Maxie. I never expected Jalen Brown to be on the Sixers. I just now think about Alan Iverson sitting in the front row, doctor J sitting in the front row like and as you mentioned, forty three years Philadelphia is waiting to explode, and if he delivers it, this.
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Speaker 6: City will ride like they will ride for Lebron.
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Speaker 1: And that's why it's not going to work. In my opinion, you just said he right. Tyrese Maxley just worked his ass off to become the man totally. Jaylen Bronson comes off, Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown, whatever his name is. So now for Tyrese Maxy, do you back off for Do you say no, I'm still gonna do what I do.
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Speaker 4: Because he's still.
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Speaker 1: Then Bron comes. Now we got Joel embiid. It's too many egos. Three or four people are gonna have to say, all right.
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Speaker 4: If I may, yes, Tyrese Maxey is the guy who I think deserves almost all the credit for Lebron going there because I've never seen a young guy that the rest of the stars in the NBA respect who he is as a young player. Like I remember I was at a party with Wade and Chris Paul and I was like, oh, Tyres Maxy, I've never met him, And Chris Paul was like, this is the one, Like he's the kid that gets it. And Bead has already publicly said it's Maxi's team, he's the franchise. So and bet this was before all this happened that point. I think Lebron is at that stage of his career where he's not gonna like fight and all this stuff and get ego based in that trying to win fight.
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Speaker 1: Lebron likes the ball, likes to touch it. You agree with that, he gonna agree with it.
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Speaker 4: I agree, I agree to a degree.
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Speaker 3: He likes the ball.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also loves making the right pass at the right time.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's cool about them. It's forty eight minutes and Bron not trying to dominate it for forty eight minutes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but hold on, if you touch the ball for six seven eight seconds, brown's not a catch and go with it.
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Speaker 4: Jayleen Brown, he's a wild cardinal.
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Speaker 2: Throw Jaylen Brown the basketball with three point two on the clock, you get a bucket.
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Speaker 3: That's what makes him good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Tatum, if you go look at the tape Jason Tatum, they ran plays sets. We're getting him the ball, We're starting a corner quarter, We're getting him the ball. We're feeding him. And Jason Tatum was actually a better willing pac. He's way more efficient as far as finding the open guy. Jaylen Brown always takes an extra dribble and then it's too late.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Trumper, you make some good points. But man, that's two questions. Yeah, when was Jalen Brown's best year last year? Okay, when he had the ball? Ah, not cash and go. When he has the ball six seven, eight nine, second he goes to work, he's not gonna have that. No, he's gonna have to cast.
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Speaker 3: Or it's hard to say.
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Speaker 2: Man, coming off my Bess year, I gotta put my ego down. Yeah, if bron here exactly easy. Kevin Love was forty and twenty. People, he was forty and twenty.
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Speaker 3: My bad. If I can't, you can, I just he was.
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Speaker 2: Forty and twenty. He was doing stuff. He was out here threatening and thinking that he was you. I just I ain't like that. I'm just no, I'm listen. On paper they look deadly, but I'm just trying to think ego like I mean, you know, as he don't think they got no ego left, not in b You just want to win at this point, Yes, what ego do you have?
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Speaker 1: Thing? Because you know how it was being a youngster getting the name for yourself once I got my name from it. I'm not stepping back from somebody you was shocked though. That's why you got four of them. Because it takes certain personalities that come in and say, hey, bro, okay, so you want tyras maxis step back.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to step back. This reason about learning how to.
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Speaker 3: Be a chance. He's slowed the ball. Now.
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Speaker 2: All Tare's MAXI has to do is figure out a set where he can use Jalen Brown as a threat to where now you can't help, and then who am I getting the ball to? Am I feeding Broun or am I feeding Joel? He don't have no problem turning the corner getting his shot whenever he wants. He'll become more efficient. You won't ever see him play a bad game. I think the worst season.
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Speaker 4: I'm concerned about injury an ego, but I think Jalen Brown because all the rest of them were on this team last year. Jalen Brown is the one mystery of how it's all gonna work. But like they tell you what, it seemed like they fit great, sell you what other pieces is work?
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Speaker 2: Anthony Simons, out of no one's talking about it, you got about it. Damian Little might have taught him a little too much. And it's gonna all come to a right here because.
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Speaker 4: He's got superstar like he's going.
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Speaker 1: Well, Pope too all, well, Pope sign yeah, shooters, well, Pope done one before.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be his third franchise that he looking for a ring. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: It ain't it ain't it just won it before that, I'm saying the DNA of what's going on. I get what they doing because it might seem like I read a quote earlier they were saying it looked like ron chasing rings. I'm like, no matter where he would have landed, it looked like he chasing the ring. That's how good he is, even at forty one if he joins the team. Now, y'all, chief, it was gonna be that either way. I think he just couldn't to go to State because Daniel, Katie, you did complain he was on our team. We all complained when Katie went over there and joint Steph. So if he would have went over there, we had to complain. I still watched it though.
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Speaker 4: You said about Lebron loving the story. That would have been him and someone else's story.
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Speaker 3: It's not a good comic book, you know.
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Speaker 6: What I mean, Like we're having this discussion, who's the team is.
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Speaker 2: About to be the best comic book? Yeah, comic book option we got available. Bron James just went to Philly after he's been talked about to go to like a certain city vibe that's like a market, feel good, showtime city. Now he goes to like.
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Speaker 4: Where everyone's gonna have his beard, because Philly is the city of beards.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have his beard.
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Speaker 6: I'm playing dreams.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna own beards.
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Speaker 6: They're gonna be playing dreams.
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Speaker 2: About to be part of that New York household. Listen, Philly that we don't want that beard.
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Speaker 3: They got that.
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Speaker 6: Long, They got that long.
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Speaker 2: But you got the bacon beard, the energy, Philly is gonna be unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to work. I don't think it's gonna.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna work right away. It's worth it. I'm just saying for you, Championship.
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Speaker 1: Or bush that's a question. Yes, yeah, I mean not fit. Listen, they're gonna win forty fifty games, but no.
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Speaker 3: Championship or bus. Yes. Jaylen Brunston leads the fourth quarter scoring for the last five executive years from the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Jayalen Brunston ain't got Tyrese Maxi.
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Speaker 3: Tyres. I love you to death. Philly. Show me that you get to beat Jayleen Brush.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, Tyres Maxie has had his rundown with Jaylen Brunton.
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Speaker 3: Already, Philly got a squad now, mister s.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Jaylen Bruston needs to be stopped before we start considering people for championship or bus.
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Speaker 3: Look at that paper. How do y'all go do about this light skin?
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Speaker 1: Dude, that's a legendary squad on paper already already? Who Maxie.
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Speaker 3: Cool? That's what I said. I'm glad.
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Speaker 2: You can lead off with all that can't knock off the Kyl Brunst that got the gold ball man.
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Speaker 4: The next one, so they are so you have to beat the man to be the man in trouble.
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Speaker 3: There you go, Mitchell Robinson going, they're in trouble. I like this guy. I haven't told you'll like going. I like this guy.
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Speaker 6: So right now.
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Speaker 2: They got they don't have miss It was a problem that year.
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Speaker 4: He did play very well. But if we're gonna say that Mitchell Robinson is the reason, he can't be the whole reason. Okay, so let me know. I'm gonna quick little DraftKings because we have numbers. So right now odds to win the championship, Spurs are the favorite, then the Thunder, then the Sixers, and then a gap to the Knicks, which is interesting to me. To win the East, the Sixers are plus three fifty. Their line from Vegas in terms of wins is fifty, so they so if you bet over fifty or under fifty, so you're talking about sixty just because I think when teams get formed like this at the beginning of the year, it takes twenty thirty games to kind of gel. So maybe that's what hurts them. This one I thought was interesting to finish as a top three seed. Vegas actually thinks it's more likely that they don't finish as a top three seed in the East. That seems kind of crazy to me. Top four, top three, top three.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you look at this, Bron too, Bron don't really care.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes the regular season doesn't matter. It's not even that though. Sometimes it's about the matchup. Look for that right team to focus on, and maybe it's not.
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Speaker 2: And you know, like they let them beat each other. I deal with them.
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Speaker 4: But if you think about it, it's Nicks. So Nick's Sixers, Celtics.
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Speaker 3: Who else?
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Speaker 4: The heat? Are they getting over them? The Pistons? Maybe Pistons had a great year. Pistons, Pistons are there?
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Speaker 6: Cavaliers?
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Speaker 1: You hear it is no listen, I love k It's a big dude that got to step up.
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Speaker 2: Oh Jensen Duran, Yeah, I think gonna sign and that should have pited. I usually kissed off Jaymien.
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Speaker 3: You bad. Now he goes back to what you.
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Speaker 4: Were saying about regular season versus playoffs. Oh yeah, because Lebron in the playoffs has the blueprint.
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Speaker 2: But it's also not the same speed, the same effort. It's a different ball game. After playoffs. It's like, all right now, now, if I'm gonna tear my my achilles, this is how I'm gonna do it. You know what I'm saying. I'm going for it. It's just a different level. It's I would want to go into battle.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, So who you think gonna win the Eastern Conference gonna go to the finals. Ain't gonna be the championship from the East to Nick Nicks over.
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Speaker 4: The championship, I didn't bring Cleveland.
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying over Cleveland. I'm not bringing Cleveland in it is.
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Speaker 4: He didn't stutter over.
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Speaker 3: I think that.
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Speaker 2: Would be close and over Miami. Hell yeah, something, Lamb, you gotta ask something. You can't just switch Eastern Conference teams and now you just you just win. You don't just win now because you switch jerseys. I think you can get some new weather thinking gonna get a championship. You can't just change temperatures, climate change, and y'all it's a winner again. Like, no, bro, he gotta he don't need some help. I just think that the DNA and a team just gotta they just gotta add a little bit of something that's creative. Way uh yeah, but they also need somebody that could create, right, because it's like Gianni's also at the end of the game. He has the James Harden problem. You don't have a go to move that we can't double team. I've been telling people for years. I don't know what's going on with James Harden. All he gotta do, James, I don't know. If you're watching this, get you a too dribble, pull up, fade away, stop stepping back, stop the floater too hard, dribbles at his shoulder, Stop shoot the fade away that way. If they double, it don't matter. Mellow told me, it don't matter. Something I work with, it don't matter. Stop talking to me about it not passing it to you. Go get the rebound for real. Go get the rebound, my boy. But I'm not gonna make an indecisive past, sup.
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Speaker 4: When you were walking like seventh ave and in the next Jersey, I told him I was gonna do that. Can you explain to people because from the outside, like somebody like Shaq, he thinks all fans are creating, they're all knuckleheads or whatever. But that was such a different friend, that was such a different energy in New York.
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Speaker 6: What was it like for you to experience it?
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Speaker 2: So one one it was like this they had trample Swish with too much love, but it was it was because Swiss was trying to keep it low. He trying to duck his head, trying not to get noticed. He was just sort of standing and I'm like, well, you can't do that with no crowd. I'm a taste the Chicago guy love a big crowd, but I know how you gotta sometimes why in your stands, how you gotta move. So when I when I when I was on the podcast, they was under the comments saying like show if they win the next game, like you gotta walk seven, like you ain't gonna walk sep off. Then they're like, man, if they don't win this next game, you gotta wear your jersey and South and I'm like, I'll wear my jersey. But I was just trolling, and then it came to it. I'm like, well, I'll wear the jersey. And then they won and they was like shump, you better walk seup and that we're out here right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, man, So I walked outside.
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Speaker 2: But it was good because it was like it was so much love though, like it was we wanted to do that so bad for the next and couldn't do it.
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Speaker 3: So for them to be doing that.
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Speaker 2: I just felt like, before y'all, if y'all are gonna hold up that gold trophy, before y'all do it, I'm gonna come show love now because I'm like, when y'all win I didn't do that. I can't be there like after winning, I wish I would have won, and then we'd have been having a parade for some people that didn't win for this, Like you know what I'm saying. I wasn't rocking with that. I'm like, nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna be a face on the float where it's like, oh man, look and Shump's here.
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Speaker 3: It's like, Trump don't get no ring for this.
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Speaker 2: He did have.
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Speaker 6: People on the parade route.
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Speaker 3: I was crazy. It was no disrespect. I give it. I get the love.
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Speaker 6: Rule, my god, Joe rule was where's job?
00:23:07
Speaker 4: He was right there best. Like to what you said, I thought the two things that were really cool. As someone who lives in New York, you could have the New York City Marathon and if you don't know what's going on, it won't mess up your day. It's the only city that's so big that nothing takes over. The Knicks took over. That was that was crazy to experience then. And I thought the other thing was it was really cool that they win and people were like this was for Chris Childs and for Starks and and you're like they appreciated their history so much. This is for Julius Rant like everyone on the journey to it. It was it was everybody coming again.
00:23:51
Speaker 2: I just that's the only part I didn't get, Like, I don't feel that way. It wasn't like they didn't do that. I don't want Jaylen Brunson ever to feel like this had to do with me. Bro, you was serving You've been serving chips for five That's what I'm This is what I'm trying to tell people. Though he been doing this silently, like well, we still ain't giving him the credit, like he's just too small. Think it could happen. Bro, I just say I never seen it. Show me if it could happen. Now he showed us. It's like no, Bro, they they've been doing they thing like they supposed to have been doing. Though, Like I couldn't feel like I need to be this needs to be about me. Like that's why I was like, what was it Game four or Game three? I did that.
00:24:33
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which game it was one of those.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: It was one of them too, But yeah, I was out there because I'm like, man, let me show my love and give pay my respects, do everything because this is about to be a zoo. I'm like, next week, oh, this about to be a zoo. It was a by all means. It was because I was surprised because I actually never seen it. I was surprised to see a lot of the Knicks players there. Yeah, like it was a lot, a lot, Like I was like, I ain't never seen that before. It was insane, bro. And I'm like, at this point, unless y'all giving rings out, like I'm not coming because it was just too much like I would have felt like I just didn't want the players. I couldn't imagine what that feels like as a player, somebody that had a bigger brand that didn't win to be there. It's like, and I know, and I know exactly what you're talking about. So me and Kobe first four years we got swept. Nobody was around, couldn't find nobody belief. Soon as they get that first championship, I go to hug Kobe. Here come Magic Johnson, Like, damn Magic.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: Hey, we.
00:25:45
Speaker 4: Do you think because you won that hit you even harder because you knew what it was like to have want to change.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's special.
00:25:51
Speaker 2: It's special, like and it's like, bro, people be in their mind the whole season, like everybody, like, I think of Like when I think of that, I think of Mike kel Bridges, think about the mental battle that he just had to deal with people saying he sucked his Instagram.
00:26:08
Speaker 4: He went to the first two months where people are like, he can't even shoot anymore.
00:26:11
Speaker 2: Steve, and they going in on him. They're like, he can't do this, he can't do that. We need more production. And we was going in on him because we just looking at the numbers, saying, man, if they're gonna win the night, they need more how to do we knowing what he brings to the table, he just wasn't playing well.
00:26:24
Speaker 4: You're right, it was.
00:26:24
Speaker 6: They traded all these draft picks for him.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: It was all on him. He kept his face like this. The man said, yep. They was talking about how he needs to change shooting all this. He listened to everything, blocked everything out. And then you get to the top of the mountain, you play your best basketball to wrap up the rest of this series, and then it's like why y'all got floats that I just didn't want nobody looking at me feeling like.
00:26:50
Speaker 3: That, like why is he mine here? Yeah?
00:26:53
Speaker 2: Like what did you have to do like that ACL was two years ago, buddy, Like you know what made is it a wrap on that chap?
00:27:03
Speaker 4: How appropriate is it that you guys, your twenty sixteen team just went on that like.
00:27:08
Speaker 3: European they gonna go on something like that.
00:27:12
Speaker 6: But but that just shows you that was your team.
00:27:16
Speaker 4: Those were the guys that you went to war with.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: Especially, you ain't see us inviting the old calves on our damn championship.
00:27:23
Speaker 9: No retreat, Oh Mazzi, Hey Mazzi, I just want you to know I ain't set it up and none do.
00:27:35
Speaker 3: I orchestrated. She was told to join the trip late too, like shuping straight to Instagram? Where the hell is money? Invite?
00:27:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh hey boy, you know I visioned it. I love was a psychod. They tell him be quiet. He started speaking Russian to they ass He says some crazy today. Hell, bro, I used to be telling Bosie to go off them, go off Tipathy Bosco.
00:27:58
Speaker 4: For no bit. None of you know what he's saying.
00:28:00
Speaker 3: He's just firsting what he said. But he let it go. He let it go. You can't say nothing he speaking Russia.
00:28:06
Speaker 4: Was there ever a point on your trip together that that Lebron gave any inkling, just at least gonna keep playing.
00:28:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's you know, he got his little was that the old boy to sit down?
00:28:19
Speaker 3: Was that an old boys trip? It was? It was all It was all boys and you know what I mean. But you know I had some company. I ain't gonna lie some company. No, it's cool. I can do what I want. I can do it from man.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: Bron got his little He got his little what you called a little It looked like a fanny pack, but it's a pad for his back. And he was sitting like this. Anytime he come over there talking to me like this.
00:28:51
Speaker 3: But he's just two. Yeah, it's still playing. He's still at it. What you mean?
00:28:56
Speaker 2: He had the plate? His plate was all it was all isolated, you know what I mean, food groups and small portions.
00:29:03
Speaker 3: I'm oh yeah.
00:29:04
Speaker 4: So when he when you see him, if he's ever like this, you're like, oh, yeah, he retired.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: If that man, if I came in Bron was sitting with some bad posture, I'd be like, sweaty, you've done you you over. I've never seen him like right now, he's still like this, Guarantee, I've never seen him sit.
00:29:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen him sit bad.
00:29:25
Speaker 6: Like a feeling. He'll never even when he doesn't listen.
00:29:29
Speaker 3: Trust me, I couldn't wait.
00:29:31
Speaker 2: So when the doctor told me to let my body reset from all the injuries, I overcompensated my way back from when they told me to just reset.
00:29:40
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. I tried, my heartest.
00:29:41
Speaker 2: I can't get a beer belly, but I tried, just because it was like, I ain't never not been in shape, Like it's cool.
00:29:48
Speaker 1: I think everybody's is overall look overall not not seeing what Lebron is really doing quite a century. Yeah, yeah, to think about it. So when I was when I was playing, I had two thousand points, and you look up at that thirty six thirty eight? What the Korean got thirty eight? You're like, damn, Brian got forty five thousand points. Right now, that man is gonna end up with fifty three thousand points. It's gonna never be broken again.
00:30:15
Speaker 3: Ever.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: Your ass gonna be dead. I'm gonna be dead, We're all gonna be dead. And the only guy that's gonna get close to is when they changed the game in twenty ninety six, when they have four pointers and five pointers and half court. Y'alls work twenty point That man is gonna have fifty three thousand.
00:30:29
Speaker 2: By the way, y'all bett not wait for all us to be dead and start adding no four point line.
00:30:34
Speaker 3: Oh I know right, No, yeah, y'all come back and haunch all.
00:30:38
Speaker 2: Y'all had the worst basketball gods ever were coming back to the.
00:30:42
Speaker 3: Block six man style. I'm yeah, six man six man style.
00:30:48
Speaker 4: Shout out Marlon Robans, shump let it go like no, Adam Silver, you seem really tired.
00:30:57
Speaker 6: I've been getting haunted by emon shump.
00:31:00
Speaker 2: Out everybody trying to score. I ain't letting nothing score today. It's gonna be a scoreless game. Ain't nobody scoring. Oh, y'all suck, but it's gonna it's great. Do you think that's the main Yeah, think about what happened into the Hall of Fame. People are just playing a numbers game. It don't even matter. Like so many people in the Hall of Fame.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: I'll be like, huh, yeah, that's a that's he believes there.
00:31:24
Speaker 2: Should be two Hall of Fames going crazy because it just once you start, even though I get points and I get everything, it's like it gotta go based off the years you play and the meaningfulness of the years. Like Rudy Gobert Hall of Famer. Why you gotta do me like I'm just I'm a go Bear fan. Now I know what he did in the playoffs? To yo, I'm a Hall of Famer.
00:31:48
Speaker 6: Yes, or No, four time defensive player of the year.
00:31:52
Speaker 4: Huh, four time defensive player of the year. No, thank you, I know, but he's gonna get in thank you.
00:31:57
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I have real scorers that ask for ball screen when they saw me.
00:32:01
Speaker 6: What you said about a thank you get him.
00:32:05
Speaker 4: So what you said about points is happening in the NFL Hall of Fame for quarterbacks and wide receivers because the game is so much different that back then, if you threw for three thousand yards was a big deal. Now you have to throw for four thousands. A lot of wide receivers like the Tory Holtz, the Isaac Bruces, these wide receivers that in the late nineties, early two thousands, you're like guaranteed in talking about.
00:32:27
Speaker 1: Now, I ain't talking about Isaac balk about. Now give me your name, NFL, give me name, Mega Tron, Yes, okay, Philip Rivers. I don't know Philip here's a quarterback.
00:32:37
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's got like sixty thousand passing yards. You know what I mean, that's a lot. Eli Manning is like that perfect guy, where like he's got two super Bowls, but if you look at his career record is five hundred.
00:32:54
Speaker 6: I didn't know, but he's got They did on the biggest stages.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: Man, I got to a Philip Rivers. I don't know.
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Anyway, So well, I want to I want to ask this because to both of you guys, you talked about Michel Bridges beginning of the year, end of the year. Beginning of the year, Wemby was an angel. He was out there with with monks learning how to be like spiritual in the off season.
00:33:22
Speaker 3: That's so funny, man, you know what I mean?
00:33:24
Speaker 4: And now I thought he was an angel and now at the end of the year he becomes this full villain he was.
00:33:30
Speaker 3: Do you all not remember last year when they was beating this man up?
00:33:36
Speaker 6: Hold on, I think you guys are in different.
00:33:39
Speaker 2: The previous year when CP was there, he was putting Wemby on his ass totally. It's been two three years of ass whoopings. He been waiting to slap somebody I know is like, no big man. N there's no nice big man out there. What maybe Rudy Gobert. Rudy is nice. He's like a nice He's a good guy, bro. He was a nice guy shout out to take a picture with these kids that was so scared to take a picture of it. He's like a really good guy. But it's like until he tell a joke, box ain't coming up to him. As for those picture, he looked bad. Talk the dude, what was your question?
00:34:19
Speaker 4: And why is Wenaby a villain in New York? He is like the villain.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: Because you know he smacked. He smacked, you know, because you New York people bullets. You think you can hit somebody, ain't nobody will hit you back straight up though, I'm glad he he well, I'm glad he turned. Oh yeah, I'm glad he turned aggressively because I don't want you to ever hit nobody. But I'm glad he played like a big man and turn aggress.
00:34:42
Speaker 4: And then he pushed.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jaylen Bronson grabbed the man jersey and his skin and pierced it.
00:34:50
Speaker 3: He do it, his dad should tell us to do it.
00:34:53
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm I do it.
00:34:59
Speaker 3: People. I know my.
00:35:00
Speaker 4: Wife's family is like Victor woman Yama, and I'm like, he's a great guy.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I should have got mad at Trey Young because Trey Young tried to rip Jaylor bruston Jersey. He didn't always used to cut it a little bit. Trey is just you gotta cut it a little bit. Man.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: He took he tried to do it. Then he just kind of folding in through it. So that was real when you didn't think it through. He didn't. He didn't have.
00:35:30
Speaker 2: To slit an he try to just because the kids Jersey. Now it's the NBA. Hey, we got that new TV deal. Them jerseys is strong. They getting paid paid. Boy, it's gambling Bundy. Now, you can't just rip a jersey like that, No, bo dog. You gotta slit it like Michael Jackson. He used to have a little slit. Its coming, you know it's coming. You gotta have a little splitting there. Get you the Hayes Tea.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: Speaking of women, you know, we spent a lot of time talking about the East and Comference. Who do you think is coming out of the Western Conference? And which conference do you think is stronger, Eastern or Western? I think the East just became a lot more exciting. East got that old school basketball.
00:36:11
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm finna rewatch when when I used to watch Jamaal mash Burn and you know what I'm saying, and Miss Richmond, like they have that three four style guy. They got a lot of that sprinkled around the East right now. And I think it's gonna come down to the end of games shot making again, but not like how it is now where it's like we you might get a three ball for game point, Like nah, I think it's about to go back to the eighteen footer. Can you dance right here in the middle of the court because I don't want a double team coming And we're gonna see a lot more of that. But the West, I think people fail to realize the West wasn't healthy.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: I agree, man, the thunder were beat up all year long.
00:36:58
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't get him that use because it's part of it, Yeah, part of the aj Mitchell not finishing that series when he was being in absolute Yeah I didn't know he could score it like that.
00:37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know he did.
00:37:18
Speaker 2: I was like, is it really plug and play with this group? Like everybody can score it. But once he went down, it was okay. They ain't got super superpowers, you know what I'm saying, They just super Yeah, but after the cape, that's it.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: I asked all my all the coaches this question. The game to me now is boring, and let me explain. Everybody plays the same way. Why the analytics? Yeah, but still why like you why like.
00:37:49
Speaker 4: Three is worth more than a two?
00:37:50
Speaker 1: Okay, but you can't get no plays. They get you floppy, you know, like like down.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: What killed me?
00:37:56
Speaker 4: And there's no progressions, no more.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's just doing that.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like if we go down, if we run a play, if we just run for a cross and we just bring a shack off, if I throw this Downhill and this man go and he put them up a white right hand dunk, all bets are off for this quarter until y'all figure out this simple cross screen and I throw this ball to Hill, You're I will run this to death. That doesn't exist anymore. There's no point guard that says that worked. It's weird as hell. Like when we used to play Atlanta Hawks, Jeff Tige. Say what you want about him. If you think Jeff t about to run a play after you can't figure out this Kyle core of a drag screen, you're out your mind.
00:38:43
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he gonna he gonna do all type of yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker 2: No one is coming like it's coming, bro, We're not doing nothing. Yeah, you could guard me however you want up the court. Soon as I get here. All I'm trying to wait for is him boom. It's gonna be right there and it's gonna be a three time out. You go out the game. It's like, we don't get none of that.
00:39:05
Speaker 1: No more hate about the games. So I went to overtime game. They played the same way.
00:39:11
Speaker 3: Real talk. Where's the kids like just dribble hand and man man like when they make them our position changed. Yes, it's positionless baskets.
00:39:20
Speaker 4: I think we have a lot of scores now at the point guard posess your skill.
00:39:23
Speaker 2: It's all skill based you. You don't have the Jason kids like Jason Kidd man. I don't know if I've told this story before. Jason Kidd, Mike Woodson came drew up a play. This was like end of the games. We listened to it. Jay Kidd huddled us right back up. We're not running that. When you get ready to go do this. They about to try and do this. You're gonna set a back screen. This man gonna be a wide open in the corner. Were like, huh better looking at me, like do what Jason? Kids, If you don't do it, Jason kidds saying, and get out my face. You don't get it. All you gotta do is set the back screen. Bet, I'm gonna do it. Set the basket green for Tyson. Everybody ran to Tyson, throw it to the corner. We up out of there. I'm like this, this is crazy, go ahead bucket. Like after that, they just they're just walking out like, man, get this time out. You know what I'm saying. Everybody jumping up and down. Woody over there laughing because he knowing he just called my playoff. But it's likeded now. If you watch the game, they will come down dribbling and you can see it on their face like, oh he opened. It's like soap. They left him open, Like what the fuck am I watch? I really be thinking that, Like, bro, they are leaving him open on purpose, and y'all are giving him the ball, like what are y'all doing? Like there's no discipline in it. It's just whoever's available right now. You got it rolling, You're finna get your average. He finna get his average. It's like, nah, dog, we let us see a chink in your armor. We're gonna go with that all night, all night. What you you you? You you questionable for the game. You got a bone bruise on your right knee. Oh baby, jap step what jap stick? That's why everybody driving left off the ball screak hit him.
00:41:22
Speaker 1: And that's why every time somebody played Minnesota.
00:41:26
Speaker 2: Straight up, yeah, playing our hands, you're going way from the basket.
00:41:33
Speaker 3: We're gonna get what we want and you can't dance.
00:41:36
Speaker 4: So I've heard this about Jason, Like Vince was telling me about the first time he played with Jason Kidd was like, what the sky's visions insane? Was there ever a time where someone tried to do that to you and it didn't? Like? Not? Jason Kidd was like, you set that screen, you turned, ball's gonna be there, and then the play You're like, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about at all. Like has been the opposite. Nah, I think where was there a guy that thought he was like that and he was not.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: Like, alright, there's one there's one guy that he never did like that, but he would say that I'd be like.
00:42:19
Speaker 3: Would be thinking of thinking of something totally.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Different, Like you know how people would be like we'll all we'll all leave a huddle like got it, like we own some he's got it, like you got a double check that he got it real though he might be thinking like like he'll have the whole play, but you don't realize it. He just saw the part where you gave him the ball. The rest of the ball once against the ball, that's it. That because he was with Nash, so he would like just.
00:42:56
Speaker 3: How he is.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: He's good like pictures somebody faking. There's some people that shot fake. They're taught to take the ball, bring it around pivot. Stat used to shot fake by turn and use the ball to push it in his chest and then dunk.
00:43:14
Speaker 3: You.
00:43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see it a little different because you just made that really difficult to have to be.
00:43:20
Speaker 1: That a lot of players like that when the coach draws up the huddle by trying to get back like I have no clue what man, Just go get the thing to You're gonna get okay, okay, yeah, j r Smith nine one one emergency only he might not here to play. He might not know what he might not know what time is left. If I give to him and we yell shoot, he'll make it.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: Yeah. Some people just.
00:43:47
Speaker 6: When he needs to huddle, he's like break got it.
00:43:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's like hell. Or he'll be like take what we doing? Just have that moment because he locked in on something else. But it's like, that's the focus you need to shoot jump shots. No consciousness, no conscience, I have no see me, I'm gonna be so worried about the play that I got to remember, I might not be focused on the shot that I got to make at the end, I'm trying to execute to get open. Went off the shoulder right thinking about that jumper here?
00:44:13
Speaker 3: How to do it?
00:44:14
Speaker 4: What do you I heard someone say that there was a chance Lebron would have gone to Cleveland if they were able to make a trade for Kyrie. Do you think there was any maybe truth to that?
00:44:24
Speaker 2: If I would have believed that their players short over there, It's it's hard to.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: Him and Kyrie ain't rocking like that no more.
00:44:31
Speaker 6: He would know more than us.
00:44:32
Speaker 3: I know, but I know too.
00:44:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have it could have happened. Yeah, we grown up now though ky ain't just what Kyrie like, man Kyrie.
00:44:44
Speaker 3: He wins. If Kyrie wouldn't have had no choice, if it would.
00:44:48
Speaker 1: Have got done, Okay, well that what he just said.
00:44:52
Speaker 6: Right then, he would have still came over there.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: They'd have sat down, had a nice dinner, shed a nice bottle of wine. You know what I'm saying, talk to.
00:45:03
Speaker 2: Little history of a force trade, had a couple of memories about the championship together. Yeah, you know, everybody's happy. It would have been wonderful.
00:45:13
Speaker 4: He did Bertie macren tooth theme song for.
00:45:18
Speaker 3: Great Little Reach. You can get online, go to the generation.
00:45:24
Speaker 6: It's incredible.
00:45:25
Speaker 1: It's a cold world out here, and a lot of guys are dealing with a lot of drummer. If you can give someone in the NBA a break from the nonsense, who would that person be.
00:45:34
Speaker 3: A break from a nonsense? Oh? John Morant, Yeah, John Morant.
00:45:41
Speaker 2: I'm so honestly, I'm so excited for him to start this journey in boiler I I want him to prove everybody wrong, so bad, so great. It makes me so angry, and it's in retrospect, but it's like out of anybody that need to have one, y'all don't think he would.
00:45:59
Speaker 3: Like just the audacity of the statementhen people are like, what is he ever going for?
00:46:03
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, they making two hundred million dollars, Like in three years, they're gonna have two hundred million. Like you don't think he's gonna have a firearm to defend himself. I'm like a security guard to rob him his own security, Like what Like it's a lot of money.
00:46:20
Speaker 3: So it's like perspective wise, I just yeah, he.
00:46:23
Speaker 2: Did a dumb thing by going on the internet with it, But it's like I just want him to be able to right the wrong, not even off the court, but on the court, to be healthy and doing the thing that It's like, this is what got him in this situation.
00:46:38
Speaker 1: No, because I don't think what he did was wrong because, like you know what I'm saying, they sometimes I understand our culture. Yeah, like you got it, But he was just in a moment. In the moment.
00:46:49
Speaker 3: It was part of the lyrics.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: It's it's like how do yeah, yeah, just it called for that for the NBA Young Boy song, call for that, And it's like he probably thought he was on a close friends or whatever, whatever the hell happened.
00:47:04
Speaker 1: Because the law says we can have them. Law says we can have them. And that's what I said. He did nothing wrong.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: We can have them concealed, just the right as a as an athlete. You know, he just got caught off but a role model.
00:47:19
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I get it, but it's just like I wish that he would have just handled that and then had the number one season that he ever had, because it's like, please erase that this man can hoop.
00:47:30
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
00:47:31
Speaker 4: I don't want to when he was going up and back with the Warriors.
00:47:34
Speaker 3: I don't want him to be tarnished.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: The problem was the first time we gave him a pastime was Goofy. Yeah, yeah, that was Goofy. First of all, ain't nobody gonna put you in Utah.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: Portland when he was in YouTube in Utah.
00:47:48
Speaker 1: Give me your goddamn chain boy, Give me the goddamn change. So that was Utah White Voice, Give me the goddamn change, morant.
00:48:00
Speaker 4: It was like kind of country, come on, give it. I can't say the whole thing.
00:48:05
Speaker 3: Give me that goddamn chain boy, come over here to the.
00:48:07
Speaker 4: God damn you know you told me like, well, hello sir, Yeah.
00:48:10
Speaker 6: I believe I'm gonna need that chain. Yeah, put it in my hand.
00:48:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:48:16
Speaker 4: Or you can go to church.
00:48:18
Speaker 2: You told me one of the places that, like one of them halted movies where it's like they do robberies but they just smileless here at you.
00:48:25
Speaker 3: You're gonna get it. You call anybody in your car.
00:48:27
Speaker 6: Now, I'll find you.
00:48:32
Speaker 3: So or like the from yeah, what from.
00:48:37
Speaker 2: My gosh, just a little what what?
00:48:45
Speaker 3: Well?
00:48:45
Speaker 2: Good luck this year? Job morana wsh you were bro. Yeah, for sure, we'll talk. Turn that thing around. Man, we're gonna be there. I'm gonna be there with a suit on, ready to watch.
00:48:54
Speaker 3: Who's that? Oh? I gotta take this.
00:48:57
Speaker 4: He's picking up his phone during the podcast.
00:49:00
Speaker 1: Hell, hey, man, I know you're visit right now, but I just crashed the shackmobile.
00:49:05
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00:49:06
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00:49:10
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00:49:13
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00:50:54
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:50:55
Speaker 2: Music, I'm actually excited that some of the uh no, you're really yeah, I appreciate it, some of the roles that I've been you know, I've been still auditioning for stuff. A couple of the things fell through just on some scheduling, like I just couldn't shoot it when they when they were budgeted out to suit. But I'm definitely gonna do some more acting and the country way skins. I know y'all love the country Excuse me, y'all keep hitting me up about the country as skins. I promise I would keep getting into cunt Youay. I told way, there's gonna be a long term thing with that. But even with that, I get to practice my craft a little bit because people be like, don't realize how much goes into that. It's like a lot of this stuff that's written in them shows like it's cool. It's like it got the sitcom thing going on, the black sitcom thing.
00:51:44
Speaker 4: I feel like we miss out on that all the time.
00:51:46
Speaker 2: So it's it's something that I feel like, it's not like something we should minimize.
00:51:50
Speaker 6: Well, then let's do white people black people.
00:51:52
Speaker 10: Let's do it all right, America's favorite game, White people or black people?
00:51:57
Speaker 4: Sucking your tooth?
00:51:59
Speaker 3: Black people?
00:52:00
Speaker 4: Uh, Central pe.
00:52:02
Speaker 3: White people w p s.
00:52:04
Speaker 4: So the only time I see clips are when I see famous black people in Central We're doing white people doing white people?
00:52:13
Speaker 3: Are there for the white people?
00:52:15
Speaker 4: Did you like it at all?
00:52:17
Speaker 3: No?
00:52:17
Speaker 6: So what is it like for us?
00:52:18
Speaker 3: Wait?
00:52:19
Speaker 2: You ain't going to the party with the tapestry on the ceiling with no, No, you got to go to that first. See ladies, can y'all come get shot? Take him?
00:52:27
Speaker 6: Why do you hate it?
00:52:29
Speaker 3: No? He ain't go to this.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: Part went when I was married. So rent rent the boat and you get there and that book you DJing that s ain't.
00:52:38
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't step you. I can't believe you did say thousand.
00:52:51
Speaker 6: I don't watch this.
00:52:58
Speaker 3: Like make it out here that.
00:53:00
Speaker 4: I can't believe that was the reason.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: Well when they threw the ball, you shouted at the crowd. That's lit. I say, no, I don't get more.
00:53:10
Speaker 4: Uh do do do do music? White people?
00:53:13
Speaker 3: Exactly?
00:53:18
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say the condiment mustard.
00:53:21
Speaker 3: Condiment, mustard like mustard got to be white people gotta be. I'm gonna I like, I like mustard.
00:53:29
Speaker 6: Though do you put do you put that on hot dog?
00:53:31
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:53:31
Speaker 2: I only put mustard on hot dog. I don't us. I never knew what condiments were.
00:53:38
Speaker 4: So when I said that, you were like, you put mustard and.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: No, no, no condiments. But I thought the mints.
00:53:44
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing, no no finish that.
00:53:48
Speaker 3: I just I thought I had to do something.
00:53:50
Speaker 6: Nothing flavored condoms.
00:53:53
Speaker 2: When I was young, young, when I was young, No, no, that's what you got to say.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: So when I was young, you know.
00:54:02
Speaker 1: When I was young, I was the young lady and the guy said excuse me, man, you want some condiments. I was like, what, yes, I'm thinking men's fun. Nothing meant nothing.
00:54:15
Speaker 2: When when I was young, no running out when that told me my next caption when I was young.
00:54:23
Speaker 6: Because like a condiment when I was young.
00:54:25
Speaker 3: Yea yeah, the fact when I was young, I did not no boat condiment snow boat.
00:54:36
Speaker 4: Uh storming the streets when your team wins.
00:54:39
Speaker 1: Because they say black people. Because they say when you get you're still on the continents. This is why I thought this this broker, because they say get himself. They say, when you get kissing a certain area with the mints, you feel.
00:54:52
Speaker 3: Like a tangle.
00:54:55
Speaker 6: You noticed that he grabbed my leg after.
00:55:00
Speaker 10: They just say right, big podcast, pop Rocks goes crazy, crazy, yo, out of control.
00:55:17
Speaker 3: He's going to.
00:55:17
Speaker 11: Try someone is going to be if you see someone in the e R try all right, pop Rocks like people any more?
00:55:38
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely pop Rocks. And that's the nerds that pop your mouth.
00:55:42
Speaker 4: Ball blaws, the nerds that you pop in the mouth.
00:55:47
Speaker 3: That's crazy crazy. Do you like?
00:55:50
Speaker 4: Can't you want to try shacks shack delicious if you haven't tried it. The slams are incredible, But you think yeah, do you think storming the streets where your team wins is BPS.
00:56:12
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of ws out there, Whites, no, the I mean the whites. This is this is a tradition for y'all to storm the court at the upset. I love this white storm the court. Blacks are on the streets. Yea, we would just love I think about it fourth of July. That really we shouldn't even be out there celebrating that. But if y'all gonna give us an excuse to cook on the street, we gonna rock out. What play the music?
00:56:40
Speaker 3: Right?
00:56:40
Speaker 6: Harlem is just Roman candle wars.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: We'll do it all. But we're not gonna tell you Happy Independence Day. I have not had a Roman candle war, nobody. We ain't gonna we ain't gonna do the pledge of allegiance. But we'll pop the fireworks. Though black people love a good time in the street.
00:57:00
Speaker 4: We love fireworks. Does feel a little bit, get a little bit of motion.
00:57:08
Speaker 3: You gotta rings and.
00:57:10
Speaker 4: Rings, and the rings are the most underrated part.
00:57:15
Speaker 3: You got a little you gotta make it a little.
00:57:20
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see the result.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked at me, but food like, Yeah, we could be good me and you're in the same lock room. Yeah, though we would have been.
00:57:37
Speaker 2: Been a good times. Been hard to get a bucket though, I'm telling you it had been rough to get a bucket.
00:57:43
Speaker 3: But I can say y'all asked the shack. I was in the tyson and it was hell. It was hell for him t go in there.
00:57:50
Speaker 2: I did all that to your handle, you know, an adjusted adjusted, and now you gotta lay it past them.
00:57:55
Speaker 3: They're gonna smeck that to the third bro. So that was about.
00:57:59
Speaker 4: That was about thirty five minutes of hanging out. And now you guys are like, if we were in the locker room together, how quickly can you tell new free agent comes in there with certain guys if they're gonna vibe or not?
00:58:09
Speaker 3: Oh no, best yeah either.
00:58:11
Speaker 2: It'd be like one practice for real, that's all I need practice and ones after practice.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: I know who my guys are and pleasant. When I was running things, I already knew about you anywhere before I brought you in.
00:58:21
Speaker 4: You I didn't tell was there ever a time where you thought you wanted a guy? Then you paused, then you got research, and we're like, it's not gonna work.
00:58:31
Speaker 3: Brian Williams. When that passed, I'm not gonna talk about it was gone. But he was different.
00:58:37
Speaker 4: Oh he wasn't, which I thought as far as like off the court.
00:58:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, off the way he was. He was different, really different. And then it was there was a cat from Memphis, David vond other than there. He was here was different too.
00:58:51
Speaker 3: And what happened was swash poker Joe. I Sush stayed with you. I mean, Kobe happy, Yeah, problem, what's something. I'm like, Smush, foe, what we doing? But he was a dog. I'm like, y'all need a dog, y'all keep a dog with you.
00:59:08
Speaker 1: We had to where there's a big man alliance and the guard lines. I controlled all the fours because I really can't talk to guards about picks on it. So Kobe and b Shaw and Rick they had they had the guard lines. I had the power forward and the big man line. So I scolded all the big guys. So Kobe, Kobe is being that boy ass and yeah, just killed me.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: But I liked like that, Like Kobe would have gain. I would have been less nuts if I had like I had Mellow. And when I tell you, Mellow is really mellow, like he's you can't rattle him like. Having KG do that to him was like musty TV never seen that man off his cool.
00:59:54
Speaker 3: That was the only time he ever been mad like that.
00:59:57
Speaker 2: You would say that, no, I can't mellow tell me not to tell you all, but but yeah, he just said the wrong thing. You know what I'm saying. It was deeper than wrap. It wasn't that though. That would have been like that ain't even a good enough joke. That's not good enough that I've seen it online, honey nut Cheerios. It's like, bro, unless y'all was getting a serial deal, I don't even know why y'all said that. I'd have got paid like I'd have been mad to say I was KG like soty y'all basically just put that on my name ge like, and I ain't getting paid by then? Why are y'all throwing them on me like you I'd have been blue down, like get my name up out of that. But when I heard it, though I had the thing, I was like, damn your wife, like honey Cheerio was like stupid, stupid. Some internet white peopleuns delicious. They definitely put that together. They're not even the best that's not even the flavor for I will say that sick one of the colorful ones. Stand up Friday, not Cheerios. The first like eight seconds when the milk is in there.
01:00:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable. But it some sugar on top. You got a lot?
01:01:03
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's crazy. Yeah, No, that's regular cheerios. Honey nut Cheerios has enough sugar in it. No, you want a little bit more.
01:01:10
Speaker 3: Other white people, do you put sugar on?
01:01:12
Speaker 10: Do you even eat cereal? But you did sugar on everything. That's terrible for me, right, I mean really great what I'm saying.
01:01:21
Speaker 2: How did earlier we was.
01:01:23
Speaker 3: All terrible with eating?
01:01:24
Speaker 4: I know he had he had a post retirement where he said, I want to try and get a beer belly. Was there ever a time where you said, I'm not going to be Diesel, but I really want to get fat when you just retire. Was ever a time and you said I just want to enjoy life and get fat.
01:01:38
Speaker 1: I never said I wanted to get fat, but I ended up getting fat?
01:01:41
Speaker 3: You did?
01:01:41
Speaker 1: I just wonder I was just want just just just not It was fun not waking up at not everyone yes, and not worrying about what you ate. But then one day I'm looking at my belly at T and T and I'm looking at Charles.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, bro.
01:01:58
Speaker 4: There is a picture in tea in the lunch room where all the production people eat, and I went there to get like a bag of popcorn, and there's a picture and all four members of inside are thirty pounds heavier than what they are now. At least I'll take a picture next time i'm there. But like Shaq is breathing heavy in the photo, like.
01:02:18
Speaker 3: It's a damn damn, I'm taking that old Chuck Chuck.
01:02:24
Speaker 6: The picture is leaning to the side that Chuck is on. Ernie.
01:02:29
Speaker 2: Ernie was big in it, like you guys must have been having a time. So everybody was just living life.
01:02:36
Speaker 3: It was great.
01:02:36
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing though, because I had to do every off season. It seemed like I was having another secret surgery or a surgery that I had to fix this or fix that. Then I gotta sit out, then I gotta come back. And now I'm a mad man in my brain and I'm not even as good as Dad because I'm just psycho, because you're just in it.
01:02:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm doing stuff, but I'm like a robot.
01:02:57
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm there, but I'm totally thinking about garden MAXI tomorrow, you know what. I'm like, I'm not even here. So it's like when you're finally done playing, I just be like my back don't hurt, you know, yeah, like my shoulders. All right, today, let's go, let's go play some topic off. Give me the honey, nut cherials and the sugar.
01:03:20
Speaker 3: Where's the sugar?
01:03:21
Speaker 2: Guys like, I'm drinking POPSI I'm like, man, this is awesome, but it was cool because I'm like, bro, I haven't I caught a cramp in the pool.
01:03:31
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got a cramp.
01:03:34
Speaker 6: Here, like I'm gonna get fat, and then couldn't get fat.
01:03:36
Speaker 4: And do it.
01:03:37
Speaker 2: And then right after that it's like little by little, I can't, like I can't turn down activity. So my daughter can get me outside and I'll be will be totally going through her little drill work. It'll be peaceful. Then it's horse and then it's one on one, Then it's can you still do this? Can you still do that? And then she go inside. She then had a drink. She winding down on how iPad and I'm still out there shooting like I can't. I gotta get active. Call of Duty does a good job of sitting me down, though, I do a wonderful job, Like that's what got me through the repair of whatever they got repaired in my knee last time.
01:04:15
Speaker 3: They was like, can you sit down for do something for six weeks? I'm like, I don't think I could do it. Did you play Call of Dude? It was a joke.
01:04:27
Speaker 2: Well, now, like I see like Aunt Vegas. Also, I never got I never got down on Atario.
01:04:32
Speaker 3: I was a nineties kid when.
01:04:34
Speaker 4: Second came out World Combat and Sonic next Linic.
01:04:42
Speaker 3: Well, NBA jam too, she's on fire?
01:04:45
Speaker 4: Oh man, uh man. I wanted to ask that. Wait, I was AUNT playing video games all the time. A lot of these NBA guys now that's how they wind down that this was not a thing when you played. Yeah, no, it was a out of bottle the club, different experience centric club.
01:05:07
Speaker 2: Like these like like what's name collect Legos? Yeah, Miles Turner, Turner shout, it's different. Now that's what they did on the NB ain't cleaned it up?
01:05:23
Speaker 6: Shack would have got that and tell me like not on my NBA, wouldn't.
01:05:26
Speaker 3: Have been dealing with it.
01:05:27
Speaker 2: This new NBA ain't gonna deal with Shaq talking about Man, I'm paying all my finds and events to ask me nothing. I'm not never doing that. I pay him mind the events, they'd been like, get him out of here, Please get him out of here. We need these guys and follow rules. They can't let like shaq Ai. They wouldn't have lasted in this NBA. This NBA has a no tolerance for boy. They got me and j R. Out of there, these would have been go. They got me in Swift. I used to play good here and there, like it was I only run for a couple of this. Oh yeah, they talked about harpouts. Y'all didn't like why's elbow. They'd be like, get this gota here for real though, It's like what do y'all is bad? You can't hack him in the whole time. Like, I'm surprised Bron never had a foul like that. Yeah, the way Bron was getting beat up that first year in Miami, I think because remember that next year they came back and him d Wade. None of them would shoot at three. They took air thing to the bucket. I was like how what we supposed to do with this? This that was crazy.
01:06:35
Speaker 6: Second year of the Heat team was unbelievable.
01:06:38
Speaker 3: D Yeah, they was not bulled.
01:06:40
Speaker 4: And you know what is so crazy about that is because that hard foul.
01:06:44
Speaker 3: No Bron always played the game right.
01:06:46
Speaker 4: The Heat team was so special that we got that one year of the Spurs because of the Heat when they was like the greatest passing Remember the twenty thirteen when they wanted all four to one over the Heat and it was like, what the f was that? That was because of the heat, Like that was a ripple in the water that three years later we saw the result of it. That was unbelievable. I can't believe Lebrons in Philly. It doesn't make sense. I'm bringing it back.
01:07:10
Speaker 2: I don't.
01:07:11
Speaker 1: I can't believe it either. However, on paper they look dangerous.
01:07:14
Speaker 4: What's your face? Why are you making that face?
01:07:17
Speaker 3: Because I don't want to. I feel like you you're conceding a victory. What do you mean conceding a victory? I think it's I think it's like I'm.
01:07:25
Speaker 4: So oh that I already think I've won. Yeah from this way, Oh, that Bron playing in Philly and he's gonna break. I don't.
01:07:36
Speaker 6: I don't make any money from.
01:07:37
Speaker 2: Everybody's about to make money. No, no, no, no, no, no, before you start, dear everybody in Philly.
01:07:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole city is going to be up.
01:07:43
Speaker 2: Everybody about to make money. Gilly is up everybody. I'm not even talking about sports gambling. I'm talking about real life jobs. Gonna mean more people hired at the arena. They're gonna need more security now. Yeah, business is about to be booming.
01:07:59
Speaker 3: After mm.
01:08:00
Speaker 4: So Lebron apparently is going to be living in New York as he should. He's gonna be able to walk around Philly to my neighborhood.
01:08:06
Speaker 3: Holdo, how are you practicing?
01:08:08
Speaker 4: Helicopter?
01:08:10
Speaker 6: JJ Redick used to drive down from Brooklyn every day. Yeah, yeah, he lived in my neighborhood.
01:08:16
Speaker 3: It's only like every day I dropped my kids off an hour Yeah, hold on, so.
01:08:22
Speaker 1: He gonna wake up in New York, got eight and one to drive to practicing and come back on.
01:08:25
Speaker 6: No, he's gonna get flown.
01:08:27
Speaker 2: He's gonna wake up probably about eight forty five. Fly if I played for Philly. I'm living in King of Prussia by the mall by the mall nut I know if yeah, y'all did right, man, he wouldn't have made it. This this new IVIEA man I say about the ball during the social media era, shack live by the ball.
01:08:51
Speaker 4: It's tripping me because the first time I saw Lebron play in person was in Philly in the Polester. I don't know if you guys know. The Polester Palestra is the place where the Big Five used to play, so like Penn Drexel, Lasal, they had all battle this old arena. And he in high school was up against this kid Maurice Rice from Strawberry Mansion, who broke Wilt Chamberlain's scoring record in Philadelphia in high school. And everybody I went there with my friend in high school, Iverson was there, All the Phillies were there, all the Eagles were there because they all wanted to see Lebron, Saint Vincent, Saint Mary's goes up like twenty thirty points. And it turned into a one on one battle between this kid, Maurice Rice and Lebron. So Maurice Rice came down, crossed him up, hit a three place, went crazy. Lebron came back, crosscross dunk. Maurice Rice came back. It's on YouTube, crossed over Lebron fell he airballs the three, but Mike Philly at that point, man, we haven't won a championship since eighty three, forty three years. I think there's only two teams that have. The Orlando Magic haven't even been a franchise for forty three years.
01:10:04
Speaker 3: And we went in this show.
01:10:07
Speaker 6: For Lebron to be back in Philly is a trip. I just it's a trip.
01:10:11
Speaker 3: If they can.
01:10:14
Speaker 4: The Magic.
01:10:14
Speaker 3: What are y'all gonna do about Jalen Brunson one man?
01:10:20
Speaker 2: We was talking about one man this season to you you know that different, and then O g went and tip that in, so we had to talk about two men different. And then Josh Hart had seven offensive rebounds and we had to talk about three men.
01:10:32
Speaker 3: It's different.
01:10:33
Speaker 2: They told us we was gonna sit off with Josh Hart. Josh Hart ain't gonna be able to hit a three. He hit six of them.
01:10:39
Speaker 3: I must say it slow.
01:10:41
Speaker 4: Brunton took wemby one on one.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: Maxi scoop Maxie was that last year DJ the child and Lebron didn't we Epica don't know what they got even if he healthy. Otherwise, other buddy I'm just saying everything got a fall, right.
01:11:10
Speaker 2: I'm just over there over the New York. You're about to get a healthy dose of Jalen Brunson. You're gonna get Josh Hart, who don't have to shoot it, but he'll score it if he got to.
01:11:21
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a question.
01:11:22
Speaker 2: O g Anooby, who was playing arguably his best basketball when he hurt his hamstring, and now he's gonna be healthy. He came back healthy and did cat busting ass. No holes in his game, don't beg for the ball, don't really care won the championship, went on Good Morning America.
01:11:37
Speaker 3: Didn't look like he cared there either. I have four championships too. He looked like he gave a damn.
01:11:43
Speaker 1: I have fortunate. I'm at you a country residu. I have four championships, two of them two of them were luck.
01:11:51
Speaker 4: Luck.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the places you don't think the Nicks championship was a little lucky.
01:11:55
Speaker 3: This year.
01:11:59
Speaker 4: They won like thirteen out of fourteen.
01:12:01
Speaker 1: All that, Jay, you don't get that tip, Jalen, you don't get that tips over j One, you finish. If you don't get that tip that you don't win that game. If dumb ass Fox don't try to score with eight second left and open, that was bad. That's what I'm saying. That's right there. Then Hulus six, that's only would have lost. No, no, if they don't let the twenty nine point in Lego, I'm just saying it was a little bit of lucky.
01:12:29
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ifs, and but it was lucky that they was born before these. No, that's crazy. I'm not saying that that's great. That's like me.
01:12:36
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying that you all won, but you.
01:12:39
Speaker 4: Had you had a lot of if your titles were luck.
01:12:42
Speaker 3: When I was up.
01:12:44
Speaker 1: Portland in the games, Robert, Yeah, yeah, we don't win that game seven. We don't win that game seven, I'm probably getting traded at something like they trade me after that one the Thursdays.
01:12:57
Speaker 4: That would be a fun whateff I'm saying for you.
01:13:00
Speaker 1: But like what happened come back? Remember remember we was up three one, came back and then they was blowing us out. If we don't win that game seven, there ain't no shock in Kobe.
01:13:10
Speaker 4: There's only one three one, and then we had.
01:13:12
Speaker 1: A series of deficier hit that point oh four. Remember that.
01:13:16
Speaker 3: Hey, why y'all used to let him wear his head man over his ears like that because I think he had that stephen A they.
01:13:24
Speaker 6: Got doing his ears though, what the headband where the hairline was?
01:13:29
Speaker 2: He would put it here and then wear it like down because you can't have it, y'all would go tell him listen, no, no, you've seen some of the head bands back then.
01:13:41
Speaker 4: So there was some crazy stuff.
01:13:42
Speaker 1: Ye had to stephen A. You know, he got the crook of head so he couldn't put it right, so he had to put it right there and then put it because that was different too.
01:13:50
Speaker 4: So are you enjoying Are you enjoying the ESPN? You enjoying being like an analyst and getting praise? You got a lot of praise this year.
01:14:01
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was cool.
01:14:02
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is I really have a problem with people that complain about they don't do about it for the longest we complain that.
01:14:10
Speaker 4: Certain analysts just wasn't.
01:14:12
Speaker 3: Like what is he talk?
01:14:13
Speaker 4: Like?
01:14:13
Speaker 3: What game did you just watch? My man?
01:14:16
Speaker 2: Like it's no way you watched the game? Like he didn't play good, Like he played awful. Yeah, and it's like you sitting here saying he played good. You just looking at the stat sheet?
01:14:24
Speaker 3: Brother?
01:14:25
Speaker 1: No, but no, but but you know why right, because we talk free throws. You know why right, because if you continue to do it, now we hating. Now we hating what you mean? Like sometimes I used to go at all my big men when they didn't play like they give you twenty two points, I'm like, nah, I need twenty nine.
01:14:41
Speaker 3: I need thirty.
01:14:42
Speaker 1: So when you keep saying what they're not doing now is hating and then come back and say, well, the game is different. We don't play like chuck and shucking to post them on. So sometimes yea, we don't play like that post anymore.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: I know, shock is Joe.
01:14:59
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, Chuck a chuck talking like this a lot lately, Chuck.
01:15:04
Speaker 1: And chuckle when we postuff but we don't give me twenty eight points. Yeah, I love it. I mean that's how it sounds sometimes. So sometimes I have to suck my word and go, he played great, because if we keep saying what they're not doing now, it's the old guys.
01:15:23
Speaker 3: That has all.
01:15:23
Speaker 2: I try to be true to that where it's like I critique guys and said that you didn't do the certain things. So now that is my turn, I pay it forward. I feel like I'm gonna highlight the good things about players. I'm gonna talk about the good, bad and ugly with basketball. And anytime they try and get me to go the gossip route or ooh this is a headline, I'd be like, I don't care.
01:15:45
Speaker 4: I feel like you navigate it well because I see you on with like Windy and a lot of the analytical guys. But I feel like you guys have a good connection. And I feel like sometimes I see the former athlete with the reporter and there's always a divide. There is no flow, and I feel like you guys have been to figure out a.
01:16:00
Speaker 2: Flow, but they've they've also leaned into that, like we all kind of we're not saying the same thing, like so we don't step on each other, so we don't feel a way about it. I think because they know from what I'm talking is a basketball standpoint, So I'm going to talk about nuances that can't affect their points. Uh. It's actually good because sometimes I really don't know the actual number and Brian will just hop right there.
01:16:25
Speaker 3: Oh no. In twenty twenty three, he averaged twenty four point eight.
01:16:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they'll know that's it is it is they they bring stuff up during that's are definitely a WPS crazy yeah only, but it's good because there's a there's a healthy balance of that.
01:16:42
Speaker 3: We do want to know when Shaq hits twenty thousand points, like.
01:16:46
Speaker 4: We want to know that when I earn it was with doing TV with guys like Chuck and Shack. It is my job to have all the information. It's his job to have feel and if he makes a point, if I have stats that can support him and make him look smarter, I do it. The other times when he makes a point and my stats are like completely different, I'll be like, we'll be right back after the break. Hey, just so you know, that's not at all. But I also think it's important for the guy, like the host. I'm not a big fan of correcting people on camera. I kind of think that sucker, to be honest. One thing I really don't like, I've never talked about this before, is when hosts, like, let's say, Shaq uses a word incorrectly. I hate when they go, that's not what that means, and I'm like, this isn't the place.
01:17:38
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know my brother, I don't know. We gotta do the type of house.
01:17:42
Speaker 2: So my brother he says something wrong, Well that's different to do the same thing to me. But I like, I like that he has that ability to check me, that need that otherwise.
01:17:54
Speaker 4: Rather family is different.
01:17:55
Speaker 2: But if I was on here, like even to me and with teammates, it'll be perfect because I know he'll really tell me if there's some bully totally like, yeah, he gonna laugh and joke with me. But because we laughing joke, it'll be like I can hit him, like he'll feel like, no, I'm gonna go across some shit. If he don't get through this next screen, I'm smacking Tump. All my teammates felt like that, like I could smack Shrump and in that moment he.
01:18:20
Speaker 3: Not gonna fight me.
01:18:21
Speaker 4: But I honestly is one to be a friendship. You are right about that real talk like you.
01:18:26
Speaker 2: Need somebody to check you and hold you accountable, dug like I wouldn't do that, Like if I was saying some bush and you let me just keep going and you got the numbers that say I'm dead dumb, like you don't.
01:18:36
Speaker 3: Let me look stupid?
01:18:37
Speaker 2: Now into it after the oh that break you something about yeah, I'm kicking ass, I kick your eyes.
01:18:44
Speaker 3: I come back.
01:18:46
Speaker 4: I have a black guy.
01:18:49
Speaker 3: Come back.
01:18:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shack send us off, saying say goodbye to everybody in your new favorite voice.
01:18:56
Speaker 1: I just want to say now that I have Jen and Brown, Lebron mm hm, tj tyist Maxine, I'm still not going to play in the post like Chack and Shuck, but we're going to win the championship this year.
01:19:10
Speaker 3: The Good Buck.
01:19:16
Speaker 2: This has been a playmaker production
