ABOUT THIS EPISODE
The Big E and Ronnie Show is back after a break, with a few rusty moments and some hiccups in getting the audio running smoothly. Despite the initial technical challenges, the hosts are thrilled to be back, eager to dive into lively discussions about baseball, podcasting experiences, and card collecting antics.
In this engaging episode, Big E and Ronnie delve into their love for baseball cards, sharing anecdotes and insights into their current collections. They nostalgically discuss their various podcasting setups over the years and the simplicity they aim to maintain until a sponsorship leads them to the next level.
The duo explores the latest episodes of the Major League Baseball season, dives into the excitement of opening a jumbo pack of 2025 baseball cards, and shares the thrill and occasional letdowns of card collectibles. This episode also highlights the quirky challenges of being a collector and the strategies they employ to enhance their collections.
Tune in for a delightful blend of sports talk, humorous banter, and the sharing of passion for card collecting, making this episode a treat for any sports enthusiast and card collector.
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There we go. Are we working? It's, we're up and running.
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It has been a while. So we had to, uh, there's a little bit rusty.
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There's a little bit rusty. There's a little bit of a hiccup to get the audio recording going.
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We did a test. We did a test audio and that worked out fine.
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I was just spitting truth bombs.
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That's not going that far. Just spitting facts and podcasts,
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but we are so thrilled to be back.
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It of course you know it's been very difficult
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for us to be away yeah but that's just
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life you know yeah that's life it's life it
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is what it is i was sick ronnie is sick we're in very close quarters so we're
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probably just passing it back and forth to each other that's all right yep we
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share a mic we share a microphone here on the biggie and ronnie show done podcasts
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before where everybody has their own mic.
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I've done podcasts before where we're all in different cities.
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You know, and this is just another one of those aspects of, like,
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we just try to keep it simple.
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You know, we try to keep it simple. I'm simple. Ronnie is simple.
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Until someone sponsors us. Yeah.
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Then we can take it to the next level. Well, and there are certain things, too.
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Like, you know, I remember in the past setting up, like, a multi-microphone system.
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Right. And we were dealing with something before we came on the air,
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where I was like, we couldn't figure something out.
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You know, it was like Zoolander where we were slapping the computer.
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But it's like, finally, after about three minutes, they're like,
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just Google it. Because Google has answers for everything.
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Googled it, got the answer immediately. And that's what it would be with the,
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you know, setting up a second mic.
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You know, I don't remember, but it'll be a 15 second Google session.
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Yep. Uh, and, and then we'll have it. And then we can sit at least like on opposite
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sides of the table instead of sharing a corner. And we don't have to leave our houses.
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We would, I mean, we, so much time for activities.
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So, of course, you know, Tigers baseball is technically back,
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you know, spring training, got some games under their belts.
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So we'll get to that, obviously, in the third session, you know, here.
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But we just, you know, the last couple shows, we just kind of do what we want.
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But we follow a pretty, you know, basic structure.
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We're going to be opening up a pack of baseball cards. You heard.
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Ronnie's got some, is it 2025 that you got there? It's 2025. In series one.
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That's exciting. Major League Baseball. Can I squeeze the pack?
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It's a jumbo pack. It is a jumbo pack. A jumbo pack out of the hobby.
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Yeah. Doesn't feel like anything thick in there, which I usually say is a good thing.
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Usually, I don't think there's anything thick in the 2025s. Yeah,
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you know, I even, I pulled that numbered, I pulled that numbered, who was it, Devers?
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Yep. And it was a relic card, and I didn't even know that I had pulled a relic card.
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No, it's crazy. Like these new relics are super thin now.
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Well, it's probably because of the freaking, the fanatics jerseys that are paper
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thin. You know, that's a good point.
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That's a good point. But it's funny too. People used to get mad at people in
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stores if they would like squeeze the packs because they were looking for relics.
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If I'm squeezing a pack and I feel a thick card, I'm putting it back.
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I'm like, I'm searching. I don't want it. I don't want those freaking relics.
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Most of them are like three bucks. Even if you get a star.
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Right. You know, we pulled, again, we say, we've been doing a whatnot show.
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Yes. We've been doing a whatnot show, RG Collier 11, right? 10. 10.
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RG Collier 10. It's not my name, so I don't remember it, you know?
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But we've run a couple shows. It's been a lot of fun.
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I had a point there. Oh, we talk about on that how we both really love the 2024 holiday cards.
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But like, even within that, you pulled like Julio Rodriguez relic. That's like a $2 card.
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But you know, you pull a Julio Rodriguez with the hidden elf or the hidden snowman.
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Now you got yourself a card. Yeah. Yeah. Five, 10 bucks.
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I've been telling my kid for ages, take better care of your cards.
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You know, you got to take better care of your cards. And of course they're,
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they're falling down cracks and getting knocked off tables. And And,
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you know, we have cards everywhere, but myself, personally, I take really good care of them. Right.
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But I knew, you know, he had some cards that he wasn't keeping a really good
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eye on. And I finally made him pick them up, and guess what was in there?
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What? Hidden Elf Shohei Otani. Ah! You know? It's like, come on, kid.
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So he was like, well, that's my card. I'm like, I could have at any point picked
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it up off the floor, and you would have had no idea. Yeah.
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So, I let him trade, you know. Usually, I make sure he gets...
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By far the better end of the raid. In this instance, I was like, mm-mm.
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I said, you pick a card or two that you want, and I'm taking that Shohei,
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and I sold it already, you know, 15 bucks. You did? Mm-hmm.
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I have a stream? No, I put that one on eBay. Okay. Yeah.
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Ronnie is fully invested in whatnot. I am. And I think it is.
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It's the platform of the future.
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I'm just so embedded in both Tom C and eBay that, and you know,
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we, we lament that our whatnot, we're not quite to where we can sell like big money cards.
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Right. And just send it out for $2. Yeah.
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So, you know, I'm willing to, I'm willing to sell a $15 card for four.
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Right. Just to get exposure, you know, but some of the cards that I still,
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and I would have moved the Shohei
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on whatnot for sure, but I knew I could sell it same day on eBay too.
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But yeah, I think eventually everything that's on eBay and check out my cards will come back to me.
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And once we get more comfortable with the store and once we get more comfortable
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with starting bids as comps and things like that, but we also need more people in our streams.
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So, you know, we've got probably 150 followers right now. 150 followers.
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Our room usually, like a full room for us is like 20, 25.
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Yep. Standard is right around 10 to 12. Yep. We need more than that to start
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throwing up our big money cards. Yeah.
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But, you know, with the podcast, you know, this was sort of just something.
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We're like, hey, we like talking about sports. Let's do a podcast. So we did.
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I'm always buying cards. Ronnie is really buying cards.
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He kind of picked up right where I left off. I was in a really hot and heavy
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through about Christmas.
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And then I kind of looked at what I had spent versus my return and it didn't
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dissuade me or anything. I just said, okay, I need to take a little bit of break, catch up.
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You know, my son benefits a ton from the baseball cards.
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I was like, I need to spend a little bit of this discretionary income on my daughter.
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So just been trying to balance things out. Plus, I've got a lot of cards that
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I had put into grading and things like that where, you know,
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now instead of buying, I'm actually sort of reaping the benefits of previous purchases.
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So I'm ready to open some cards. You're ready to open up some cards.
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Yeah, it is. Now, the AI is just going to edit that out. I still love it, though. Yeah.
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Such an easy, easy open for the, you know, you and my son, you just,
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you love a nice, easy open pack.
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Should we sweat the nice card? Don't sweat the technique.
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Or just go through them all. Yeah, let's just kind of power through it.
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Let's just go through them. Just peeking. Randy's peeking.
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All right, we got Justin Henry Malloy on the rookie card. Jay Hen.
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He's a stud. Yeah, Tanner Beebe from the guards. Didn't we sign him?
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No, we didn't. No? It was Alex Cobb. I thought we signed someone else,
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too. I'm not saying you're wrong. No, I don't think we got B.B. Okay.
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I knew we got Cobb. Don't get me wrong. O'Neal Cruz.
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O'Neal Cruz, all right. Pirates.
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Hurston Waldrop. Who? Rookie Card. Braves.
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Jake Cave for the Rockies. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Michael King of the Padres.
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Rockin' that absolutely gorgeous teal and pink. Yep. And this is the last season
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for that. So I don't know why.
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That should, I would almost want that to be there every day.
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That's probably my favorite uniform in all of sports. Exactly.
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I'll probably go looking for some relic cards that have those colors in it. Yeah.
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And I've always, I want a Padres hat and I've always wanted like the old school one. Yeah.
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But heck, this might be the hat to get to do the Padres thing.
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I always felt like you're allowed a Padres hat. I've said it before,
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because the Tigers beat them in the World Series.
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So it's like you can commemorate the World Series, but also,
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like, your team is still the daddy. So you can rock that hat.
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What else you got there, fella? Orovis Martinez, the Blue Jays,
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the rookie card. Fun. Fun.
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Colt Keith. I'm the rookie cop. The Colton Keith? The new first baseman for the Detroit Tigers?
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That's actually a nice shirt. I love rookie cup cards, especially like,
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I mean, way back in the day with like your 1962, like your Billy Williams around Santo rookie cups.
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Not every rookie gets a rookie cup card. I think people don't realize that.
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So you have to earn it and good for Colt Keith. Matt Chapman, other giants.
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Matt Chapman. He's a great player.
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Carlos Navarez, rookie. You can shove it. Yankees suck.
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This one is a, oh, National League leaders and wins.
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Three players. Can you name the three players that won? With most wins? Yep.
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In the National League? Yep. Chris Sale. Yep.
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What team is the next one? Phillies. No. Then the Cubs.
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Shota Imanaga. Yep. Phillies was Zach Wheeler. Zach Wheeler.
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Number two. I did all right. I did all right for not giving a crap about the
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National League. Ronald Acuna Jr.
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Stud. Have a lot of these. I buy into a lot of braids. Yep. Yeah.
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I always get the braids somehow in a randomization. My son is always like,
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every time he pulls it, he's like, Ronald Acuna.
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I'm like Acuna every time. Like tuna. Exactly. Rice Hoskins.
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One of the brewers. Reese Hoskins.
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Corey Seager. Sniff right into
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the microphone if you can I will next time Hopefully AI takes that out,
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Corey Seager Very nice This is a 40 card pack by the way Yeah this is a big
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Jumbos are big But sometimes it's just fun to hear your favorite player's name
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This is a National League San Diego Padres This is after a walk-off win It looks
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like it's a team card It's a big celebration.
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Matt Schumann The Athletics the
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uh sacramento athletics for now athletics games
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and tampa bay games are gonna be so wild yeah i
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was watching when i was watching the tigers play the yankees in
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the uh in spring training i was like oh my gosh that that field has no foul
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territory no foul territory there's like three feet of it down the through the
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infield and then like six inches in the outfield it's bonkers. Those would be nuts.
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Jake Berger out of the Marlins. Jake Berger?
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David Festa rookie card.
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It's the Minnesota Twins. Lame. Ooh, yeah. He's hurt too.
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Uh-oh. Matt Veerling. Matt Veerling. We're going to talk about Matt Veerling
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in the third and final segment.
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A couple other Tigers who are down and out.
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Lamonte Wade Jr. Great name.
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I can hear the rain outside. Nope. I can hear that.
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Ronnie's got the old school sickness. He's boiling water on the stove.
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Just going to get some moisture in the air. I dig it.
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Zach D'Azenzo. Rookie God. Astros. Astros.
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Seth Brown out of the A's.
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Nick Gordon. Marlins. Yeah. Oh, Marlins, they just did like team report cards, right?
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I think the Marlins were like the favorite place for people to play.
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I thought that was absurd.
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Who wants to play there?
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Not me. We got a call to the hall, Babe Ruth. The Babe Ruth?
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Yeah. George Herman Ruth.
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Cool. No number or anything in there? No number. Still cool? Mm-hmm.
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Brandon Lowe out of the Tampa Bay Rays. Brandon Lowe. He's a baller.
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That's a ball player right there.
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Rhett Lauder of the rookie cut. I think people are pretty high on him.
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Rhett Lauder is going to be a stud. People are chasing him left and right.
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Good for him. Yeah.
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Chase him and grab him by his ponytail.
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Jared Kalenic. He just looks cool making that catch. I mean,
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look at those cleats, too. Easy peasy. What a guy, yeah.
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What a shirt. It looks like the Stars and Strikes. I dig it. I dig it, man.
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Joey Ortiz on the Bucky Cup. The Milwaukee Brewery.
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Very nice. I have like more of two of those. Did you know that the Brewer's logo is an M and a B?
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It took you me 40 years of my life to watch this video.
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I remember somebody saying to me, like, yeah, you know, kids,
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when they see the FedEx logo, all they see is the arrow. And I was like, the what?
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I was like, if you can read, you don't see the arrow. Or I can't read, you see the arrow.
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So there are some hidden logos out there.
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And, yeah, Ronnie was a lot excited one day to tell us about the MB and the
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Brewers logo. I was a barrel of the Denver way or not.
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Toronto blue Jays. Lucas.
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We got another team card here. Boom. Seattle Mariners. Why are you so mad at the Mariners?
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I always felt like the Seattle teams have always been like, cause they're on the West coast.
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You know, it's like they don't feel like the enemy.
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Cause even as a kid, you never even watch your team play them or go into bed before it starts.
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I always felt like the Mariners especially with Griffey and then like the Sonics
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with Sean Kemp like man those were those were some cool teams back in the day
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and that's cool so don't boo my Seattle Sonics or my Seattle Mariners or my
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Super Sonics yeah I miss the Sonics oh man,
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alright we got Tanner Huck yeah we got him isn't he from Grand Rapids is he?
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No No. Collinsville, Illinois. The Red Sox do have a pitcher in their organization who's from GR.
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Thought it might have been him. Jeff McNeil.
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Metropolitans. The Metropolitans. Another Nick Gordon. Hey.
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Exact same card? Exact same card. I did hear some people complaining about the,
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like, correlating with, I think that's the right word.
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That like some people were opening up the early packs of 2025 and they were
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getting like five or six of the same player.
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So we're doing okay with just two. That's two Nick Gordons. Did you tuck the
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good cards into the back? I did.
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I thought I saw you do that. I get it. Yeah, well, you're making this part long. I'm sorry.
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We're talking about the players. They need to know about the player.
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We're really just saying their name because there's so many.
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I don't want to offer too much. Taj Bradley.
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Tell us all about Taj Bradley. I'm just kidding. People were kind of hot on him too.
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It's funny. Anybody who's in the major leagues, people were high on at some point.
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Another team card. Something Eddie Reds. All right. You see Ellie in there?
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You got Ellie in it. Backwards hat. Nope.
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Celebrating. Giddy up. I like it. I'm about about it.
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Nick Lodolo, Cincinnati Reds.
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Bryson Scott. That's a cool-looking card. Yep. Second baseman.
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Nice little action piece.
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Ben Rice. It's another guy that people are high on. It's on the rookie card.
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Ben Rice can get bent and so can the rest of the Yankees. How about that?
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How about them apples? All right.
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Andres Jimenez. The Guardians. Guardians. They're going to be trouble this year.
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They are going to be trouble. Ugh, that was an awful card. Oh, no.
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This is Adele Amador on the 35th anniversary rookie card for the Rockies.
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With that 1990 Tops look.
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Yeah, that does feel kind of like a bust. No, but I don't remember if these
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are numbered on the back.
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I think it depends on the color. Yep.
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Okay, so... Ooh, what's the money card?
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Drew Romo on the, looks like a rainbow foil. It does look like a rainbow foil. Rookie card.
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All right. People high on him?
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People aren't very high. The Rockies, period. Right.
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So, back-to-back cards is a two, quote-unquote, high-dollar card. Yeah, yeah.
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It was a letdown. How was a letdown? It was a letdown. But you know what?
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We got to spend time together looking at baseball cards, talking to our friends,
00:18:23.661 --> 00:18:24.781
listening to the podcast.
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So it's not a total loss. Plus, did you buy this or did you win it?
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Actually, I did buy this one. You bought this one? Yeah.
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Well, it took a little bit of a loss for sure.
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Yeah, but... But who knows?
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Drew Romo, he might turn into the next big thing. Well, the problem,
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the thing with the jumbo packs from the Hobby Box...
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They, uh, even like the regular, you know, 14 card packs from the hobby box,
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they're the ones that are going to contain the relics, autos,
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the low numbered serial number cards.
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So, so me and the kid, we picked up three packs the other day of the 2025.
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We got two of the big, the jumbos and those are like 11 bucks each.
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Right. And then we grabbed a hanger for 16, right? that came in like the paper,
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like the cardboard packaging.
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And like the two jumbos had nothing.
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Right. And the hanger with the, in the cardboard had three or four cards.
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I was like, ah, I should have just, I'm not buying those jumbos anymore.
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I'm buying hangers. Right.
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And most people like hate hangers. Most people like hangers are the biggest bust out there.
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But, yeah, I mean, sometimes that's just what going through And this is,
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again, the point, you know Was that maybe a little boring?
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I don't think so If you're listening to this podcast, you know what we do You
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probably don't think so But one of our points is, like, every single person whose name we just read,
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Has their name on a bubblegum card. Exactly. You got your picture and your name on a bubblegum card.
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That matters. And I forget that sometimes even when Ronnie reads a name and I go, next.
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Like, that defeats the purpose, right? I don't want our listeners ever to get
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bored, but it is a little bit of a roll call of, like, these people have accomplished something.
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And everybody, you know, when we read off any tiger's name, we get excited.
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And we've got listeners from across, not just across the country, but around the world.
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So we have to remember that our, our Rockies fans, listeners get excited when,
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I mean, if I'm listening to this podcast and they're like, Oh,
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when's so Perez? I'm like, Oh my dude.
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So, you know, it's, it's funny, you know, there's the purpose of the show and
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we try to stick to it, try to keep it exciting and entertaining.
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But also we want to kind of be true to true to what we do and just say it is
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it's about giving these guys some name recognition and you know i don't have
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my name on a bubble gum card no i'm gonna have my picture on a bubble gum card
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i do yeah you know i technically do too but not,
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not officially licensed yeah yeah yeah i do have one that i got taken at comiskey
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park where i'm rocking a white socks jersey and a white socks batting helmet
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i was talking about my little league.
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Pictures this is what this is what bugged me about getting my
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when i was getting that picture taken i'm left-handed right and they put a bat
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in my hand and they made me hold it like i was right handed and i switched it
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and i was like no i'm left-handed and they were like no and they switched it
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back to right-handed and then on the back of the card it says hits right throws
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right and i'm I'm like, I don't.
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I mean, that's another reason to hate the White Sox, really.
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But my first Tigers game that I ever went to was actually at Tiger Stadium. So...
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There's a little bit of trivia for you. I picked out of Ronnie's,
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I went into Ronnie's box of treasured baseball cards, and I picked for him the one player, one card.
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That's why they picked the other one. Well, you know, like I said,
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the other one, I thought the other one was the love of my life.
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And then I saw this one, and I was like, nope, you know what, we're going on.
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Tell us a little bit about that one. So this is from the 2024 Taps Gilded Collection.
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It is a nice thick card.
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They are. A gold border. Almost looks like a picture frame.
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Then inside the picture frame is another picture. And it's of Keith Hernandez
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with the World Series trophy.
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Number 50, 47 out of 50. And it's autoed. Tell us about that auto.
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This auto is on card, and it's one of the most beautiful autos I have seen on
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any baseball card or football card, any card period.
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It's not exactly like, it's not fancy. It's not flourish.
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It's perfect penmanship. Yes. You can read every letter.
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I don't think I've ever seen an autograph before where you can read every single
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letter, first name, last name.
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And it looks just freaking terrific and for this to be 47 um and a 50 card,
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why like i mean he wrote that 50 cards that same way he had to do that a bunch,
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so yeah and he's sitting there with next to his uh world series trophy,
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i'm not sure which one because he won two yep but keith hernandez is one of
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those guys is he's never on my list of like the absolute most deserving players,
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not in the hall of fame, but he is on a lot of people's lists and I never,
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I don't poo poo that.
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Right. Right. Like if somebody has him on their list, I'm like, yeah, fair.
00:24:13.173 --> 00:24:18.773
That's a good choice. He, he really is deserving and we'll talk about his numbers a little bit.
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But, yeah, I mean, he has a war of 60.3, right?
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They're significantly lower wars in the Hall of Fame. Right.
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Again, for perspective, Lou Whitaker, 75.1, also not in the Hall of Fame.
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But let's just talk about some of Keith Hernandez's numbers here. His nickname is Mechs.
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I don't think I've ever heard Keith Hernandez referred to as Mechs.
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But that's what baseball reference tells me
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and who am I to question baseball reference so
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60.3 war lifetime batting
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average of 296 but let's take a look at some of the times he led the league
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he led the league in runs in back-to-back years 79 and 80 so 79 he had 116 runs
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1980 he had 111 That led the league.
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He led the league in doubles in 79 with 48.
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He led the league in walks in 86, one of his World Series years.
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94 walks in 86.
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Then here's some of the more fun stuff. 1979 batting average 344.
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That's a monster. That's a huge year. That is absolutely monster.
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And then 1980 on base
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percentage 408 led the league but the
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previous year his on base percentage was 417 but
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that didn't win that didn't lead the league so and he was intentionally walked
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the most times in 1982 with 19 so he won the goal he won the mvp in 79 well
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earned just had a killer year with the runs and the batting average and getting over on them doubles.
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That's terrific. But yeah, I just looked at this car. It's got that gold.
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I mean, it looks like it's made of solid gold. Right.
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And it's like darn near a quarter inch thick.
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How much you think...
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The case for this is, like, if we were to buy a case of, like,
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Tats Guilden collection, like, it's a higher end.
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I would think so. I'm not 100% sure. I don't know.
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You know, there's some stuff when I'm at the hobby shop, the LCS,
00:26:38.748 --> 00:26:43.428
you know, I sometimes look in the case at, like, you know, you'll see these
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really high-end things like you're finest and you're cosmic and you're pristine.
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And then your other product where you have the retail and the hobby and the,
00:26:54.788 --> 00:26:58.408
I forget what the other one is. You know, it's all these different crazy prices.
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But some of these, like, super unique auto cards come in a box where you're
00:27:06.708 --> 00:27:08.748
legitimately buying one card.
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Right. So it's a guaranteed auto.
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And you're paying, like, you know, in some cases you're paying, like, 80.
00:27:16.348 --> 00:27:20.828
And in some cases you're paying like 250 but you're gonna get one autograph
00:27:20.828 --> 00:27:25.728
card and i don't know if this is one of those i don't know what the cards that
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come out of those boxes necessarily are.
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And again like if you buy this product are
00:27:33.348 --> 00:27:36.128
all the cards that thick and some of them.
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Are just autoed and numbered or is it.
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Like a standard set and then bam there's this
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obvious gold fat card
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i just don't know i don't know
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and again especially with this being like a 2024 product you
00:27:52.508 --> 00:27:55.808
know i've been i've i've toyed with modern cards
00:27:55.808 --> 00:27:59.088
for a long time right but my my life's work
00:27:59.088 --> 00:28:01.748
is vintage so i can answer a lot
00:28:01.748 --> 00:28:05.328
more questions about vintage than i can about modern
00:28:05.328 --> 00:28:08.388
cards and even though i'm pretty good at identifying modern
00:28:08.388 --> 00:28:11.408
cards it wasn't until this past year that
00:28:11.408 --> 00:28:14.848
i started like ripping open boxes and
00:28:14.848 --> 00:28:18.708
a ton of packs and things like that so but it's
00:28:18.708 --> 00:28:21.948
a beautiful card love keith five cards see
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okay five cards for a thousand dollars so
00:28:25.308 --> 00:28:28.208
similar to what i was talking about but at
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least that's not wally world okay and
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so this is honestly if you paid a thousand dollars to get
00:28:34.068 --> 00:28:36.948
five cards you would not be happy with the keith
00:28:36.948 --> 00:28:39.828
hernandez no so that's why i still think is the
00:28:39.828 --> 00:28:42.568
smartest thing to do with your money is to
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go buy the cards you want exactly you know i was
00:28:45.388 --> 00:28:49.148
at the card shop with my son and the owner lou was
00:28:49.148 --> 00:28:52.628
walking past and there's a card that my kid has been looking at forever it's
00:28:52.628 --> 00:28:58.628
an adley rushman numbered really low number they're asking like 35 bucks for
00:28:58.628 --> 00:29:05.588
it and he had probably like 20 worth of packs in his hand and he was like Could
00:29:05.588 --> 00:29:08.728
I get this card if I put the packs back?
00:29:09.048 --> 00:29:14.108
And because the investment was so much better, even if he was going over his
00:29:14.108 --> 00:29:17.948
money, I was like, I told him yes. I was like, because I just...
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.280
I think that, you know, it's smart. You're going to get home.
00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:26.000
I mean, if you spent $35 and pulled that card.
00:29:26.280 --> 00:29:30.740
Right. That's like the luckiest you'll ever be. Right. And everything else will
00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:32.740
be trash. So just buy the card.
00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:35.920
Buy the card. And that's what I was saying to Lou too. And I said to Joe,
00:29:36.060 --> 00:29:39.240
I was like, hey, the owner came over here to open the case. You're going to have to buy it.
00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:44.060
And he didn't. He went with the packs. And guess what? He pulled nothing.
00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:48.260
Exactly. I mean, you're disappointed a little bit. Not even,
00:29:48.260 --> 00:29:51.360
like, a colored parallel that wasn't numbered.
00:29:52.560 --> 00:29:57.840
No autos, no patch, no color variant, no nothing.
00:29:58.840 --> 00:30:04.060
And, again, you know, it is fun to open. It's fun to open. So,
00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:05.440
you know, I didn't make fun of him.
00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:08.740
I didn't say, I told you so. You know, he made his choice.
00:30:09.540 --> 00:30:13.220
But, you know, I guarantee he, you know, when he looks back,
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.820
those cards are really just going to get thrown away.
00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.820
And said wouldn't it be nice to have a nice
00:30:19.820 --> 00:30:22.960
numbered adley rushman it would be yeah and
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.860
i would have felt better about trying to think do i have a
00:30:25.860 --> 00:30:28.960
numbered adley rushman i don't even know if i have oh i do actually
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.980
i don't think i do at this point
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i've got like some i think i've got some god i don't even know some refractors
00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:45.400
99 is that the pristine oh yeah that's sharp bring that over here with the mini
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:50.320
diamonds cool thanks oh no no no we like to give each other cards,
00:30:51.100 --> 00:30:57.660
not that nice of cards oh ronnie was open up we were opening up a pack of cards a blaster box,
00:30:58.377 --> 00:31:02.577
And we didn't talk about this, right? No, we haven't. We were talking.
00:31:02.737 --> 00:31:05.177
Could have made that the card. We'll do what we want.
00:31:05.497 --> 00:31:09.597
Right. Do what we want. So we were going back and forth, opening it.
00:31:09.657 --> 00:31:13.937
You know, it was his purchase. So I was like, I open them, but whoever pays for them keeps them.
00:31:14.937 --> 00:31:19.457
And, you know, I felt bad because it was a decent box, decent blaster box.
00:31:19.797 --> 00:31:25.477
But I was opening up the last pack, and it had a really killer hit.
00:31:26.137 --> 00:31:28.957
And so I was like I wasn't exactly sure how to handle it
00:31:28.957 --> 00:31:32.477
right because like I didn't want to steal his thunder I
00:31:32.477 --> 00:31:35.437
didn't want to make like too light of it I wanted I
00:31:35.437 --> 00:31:38.337
wanted to be I want to try to recreate that
00:31:38.337 --> 00:31:42.097
special feeling of opening you
00:31:42.097 --> 00:31:44.817
know getting a hit getting a big hit so I
00:31:44.817 --> 00:31:47.757
actually just I just slid it I just slid it
00:31:47.757 --> 00:31:50.797
under the pile of cards that I had and then
00:31:50.797 --> 00:31:53.897
we talked about the blaster box and there were some other cool cards
00:31:53.897 --> 00:31:56.657
and we're like oh yeah that's not bad you know
00:31:56.657 --> 00:32:00.117
that's not a bad blaster box right and ronnie's
00:32:00.117 --> 00:32:03.357
like oh i just wish i could get like that like that
00:32:03.357 --> 00:32:06.037
big hit like that chase card and i'm just sitting there
00:32:06.037 --> 00:32:09.337
smiling like an idiot and so like i
00:32:09.337 --> 00:32:12.517
don't want him i don't want him to act like he was super disappointed in
00:32:12.517 --> 00:32:15.797
the blaster box because it was it was about what you usually pull
00:32:15.797 --> 00:32:18.577
yeah but it was like a little bit slightly a little bit better even
00:32:18.577 --> 00:32:21.677
better right there are some decent cards in that i.
00:32:21.677 --> 00:32:24.717
Think we even sold on whatnot for a couple bars here and
00:32:24.717 --> 00:32:27.677
there so yep and so after after
00:32:27.677 --> 00:32:30.537
the dust had settled a little bit i i came
00:32:30.537 --> 00:32:33.197
clean and i said you know i was
00:32:33.197 --> 00:32:36.737
basically like you know i pulled something i was
00:32:36.737 --> 00:32:39.757
like what and i said you know and i explained to him basically what
00:32:39.757 --> 00:32:42.557
i just explained now i held it up to him handed
00:32:42.557 --> 00:32:47.497
it to him it's a jackson merrill like aqua
00:32:47.497 --> 00:32:55.517
sparkle number to 75 so jackson merrill coming off his rookie year i mean he's
00:32:55.517 --> 00:33:00.597
one of those last year's rookies yep people are talking about mvp in the next
00:33:00.597 --> 00:33:07.137
year or two that's how good he is so to pull a rookie card of his number to 75 that's,
00:33:07.657 --> 00:33:13.277
that's one you dream about and i sort of you know i felt bad that it was a pack that i opened.
00:33:13.977 --> 00:33:19.257
You know so i i tried i tried to get clever with it and you know he gets to
00:33:19.257 --> 00:33:23.957
keep it at the end of the day anyway so it's that's what really matters but
00:33:23.957 --> 00:33:27.317
i thought i was just trying i tried to find a way to add a little bit of extra
00:33:27.317 --> 00:33:29.217
fun to it if you want it's up on
00:33:29.217 --> 00:33:33.577
ebay if you want it it's up on ebay he'll send you an offer for 55 five.
00:33:34.314 --> 00:33:39.714
Yep, that's the lowest I'm going. Yep. So we opened up some cards,
00:33:40.174 --> 00:33:44.174
right? We talked about basically two one-player, one card. Yep.
00:33:44.434 --> 00:33:47.694
I made you look at all my higher-end cards. We could.
00:33:48.454 --> 00:33:56.234
We're not going to. Join us on WhatNot to take a look at these high-end cards and save some of those.
00:33:56.354 --> 00:34:01.574
You know, next week if we don't have a pack, sometimes it's fun to just go through cards.
00:34:01.834 --> 00:34:03.854
Go through four or five. Absolutely.
00:34:04.314 --> 00:34:07.394
Yeah, the one player, one card. You know, I had one ready to go,
00:34:07.574 --> 00:34:10.554
too, but I was like, I knew. Once you've seen that.
00:34:11.014 --> 00:34:13.674
Ronnie's been purchasing, like, mad, and we're at his house,
00:34:13.674 --> 00:34:20.074
so I was like, why am I going to bring a card into his, you know, 400 brand-new cards?
00:34:20.714 --> 00:34:24.214
But I did have one ready, and I'll have it ready for next week if I need to,
00:34:24.334 --> 00:34:26.414
but Tigers, spring training.
00:34:27.594 --> 00:34:32.014
Pitchers and catchers have been there for a while. A lot of the Tigers showed
00:34:32.014 --> 00:34:36.574
up early, too, Even the position players. They're ready to go. Ready to run it back.
00:34:36.954 --> 00:34:41.894
It was, they had just an incredible, unexpected run last year.
00:34:42.194 --> 00:34:47.054
Got to the playoffs. Won a playoff series. Almost won a second playoff series.
00:34:47.914 --> 00:34:52.534
Everybody was like, oh, you got to do something big in the offseason. I kept saying, why?
00:34:53.114 --> 00:34:59.014
You did it. You put the pieces to the puzzle together in spite of A.J.
00:34:59.354 --> 00:35:05.494
Hinch. who we're ready to just kind of let bygones be bygones. Yep.
00:35:06.014 --> 00:35:09.354
You know, we've shared what we dislike about him.
00:35:09.734 --> 00:35:13.134
You know, but at a certain point, you can't really, like, you can't prove a negative, right?
00:35:13.174 --> 00:35:17.474
And whatever crazy, seemingly idiotic things he was doing last year,
00:35:17.534 --> 00:35:21.714
he got them to the second round of the playoffs and almost won.
00:35:22.534 --> 00:35:25.714
And great. I couldn't have asked for more. Exactly.
00:35:26.094 --> 00:35:31.174
So I'll try to give him a little bit more grace this year.
00:35:31.274 --> 00:35:35.234
Hopefully, you know, and injuries and things like that are going to play a role.
00:35:36.628 --> 00:35:42.908
So, you know, we signed 30, mid-30s starter, you know, for what,
00:35:43.028 --> 00:35:44.608
10 or 15 mil? Not that much.
00:35:44.888 --> 00:35:48.828
You know, that was Cobb. And a lot of people knocked that signing,
00:35:48.848 --> 00:35:51.088
and I was like, that's exactly what we need. Yeah.
00:35:51.528 --> 00:35:56.228
Now he's injured, you know. But we have got... But he was injured coming into the season.
00:35:56.988 --> 00:36:01.288
He wasn't ready yet. I mean, he definitely hurt himself.
00:36:02.368 --> 00:36:06.208
They were expecting him to be ready to go. and
00:36:06.208 --> 00:36:08.968
he's not so you know the other thing that i
00:36:08.968 --> 00:36:12.388
found funny too is that you know jackson
00:36:12.388 --> 00:36:15.128
job right his first two his first
00:36:15.128 --> 00:36:18.048
two starts people were like oh well you know that solves
00:36:18.048 --> 00:36:21.428
the rotation problem it'll be casey mize and
00:36:21.428 --> 00:36:24.448
you know they wrote him off and then his
00:36:24.448 --> 00:36:27.348
third start they're like well you can pretty much
00:36:27.348 --> 00:36:30.408
guarantee that jackson job will be the rookie of the year this
00:36:30.408 --> 00:36:33.728
year and i'm like how do these people like
00:36:33.728 --> 00:36:36.928
have jobs right you know it's like don't get
00:36:36.928 --> 00:36:40.048
and the answer is you say insane things
00:36:40.048 --> 00:36:44.288
and people click on your articles that's the whole point of what they do exactly
00:36:44.288 --> 00:36:49.508
so there's no news anymore there's just clickbait and so you try to like wrap
00:36:49.508 --> 00:36:53.868
your mind around it though and that's kind of what we try to do is you know
00:36:53.868 --> 00:36:58.928
take all the nonsense and distill it down into, like, what you need to know.
00:36:59.128 --> 00:37:01.788
So, like, Matt Veerling. Matt Veerling's injured, right?
00:37:02.288 --> 00:37:08.648
He might be ready by opening day. He probably won't be. Rotator cuff is his issue.
00:37:09.288 --> 00:37:12.668
Jace Young was going to be the starting third baseman anyway, right?
00:37:13.108 --> 00:37:17.908
We were trying to get Alex Bregman. Bregman did not want to play for the Tigers.
00:37:18.208 --> 00:37:22.168
Tigers gave him the best money, the best years. They offered him everything.
00:37:22.648 --> 00:37:26.888
I'm not mad at him. his numbers in Comerica Park not great.
00:37:27.688 --> 00:37:31.528
Probably would never have been great so once
00:37:31.528 --> 00:37:37.168
we don't get him they start talking about Nolan Arenado I was like cool I'd
00:37:37.168 --> 00:37:43.188
let Jace Young develop for a year or two Nolan Arenado wouldn't wave his trade
00:37:43.188 --> 00:37:49.088
clause because he said Detroit wasn't contender so now I hate Nolan Arenado screw you punk.
00:37:50.148 --> 00:37:54.968
Don't tell me that the Tigers aren't a contender Did you see that Stan Tanner
00:37:54.968 --> 00:38:01.268
did an interview about how he was the second choice?
00:38:02.028 --> 00:38:05.888
I didn't see that. I seen it, but I didn't read it. I was hoping you read it.
00:38:06.088 --> 00:38:09.048
No, shoot. Could have given me a heads up. I'm sorry.
00:38:09.988 --> 00:38:13.608
I do know how to read. But the problem is we always send each other stuff.
00:38:13.708 --> 00:38:15.268
It's true. I just, every time.
00:38:15.428 --> 00:38:18.528
That's why this time I was like, you've probably seen it. I sent it to Ronnie.
00:38:18.588 --> 00:38:21.948
He's like, yeah, I just read that. He sends it to me. I'm like, I just read that too.
00:38:22.548 --> 00:38:25.988
But it is, it's so exciting when you send something and they're like,
00:38:26.128 --> 00:38:28.328
oh, cool. And you're like, oh, sweet. You haven't seen it yet.
00:38:29.390 --> 00:38:34.790
So, Matt Veerling, I mean, to me, he was kind of the anchor for the Tigers last year.
00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:39.210
So, it's a little bit of a bummer that he's not playing right now and that he
00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:41.550
probably won't be there for opening day.
00:38:41.910 --> 00:38:46.170
Parker Meadows, you know, Parker Meadows was someone who everybody had incredibly
00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:48.990
high expectations for this year.
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:52.610
Talking about platinum gloves, talking about, I mean, you've got to win the
00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:56.710
gold glove first. But, you know, he's a platinum glove caliber outfielder.
00:38:56.990 --> 00:39:01.950
He's hitting, he's base running, everything. I mean, true five-tool player with
00:39:01.950 --> 00:39:03.790
just incredible range in the outfield.
00:39:03.910 --> 00:39:09.770
He's got a nerve issue in his bicep, and it's really just a wait-and-see thing. Yeah.
00:39:09.910 --> 00:39:17.150
The doctor said it's as likely to resolve itself in two weeks or six weeks or more.
00:39:17.430 --> 00:39:20.350
Right. Pretty much the nerve just has to start firing again.
00:39:20.730 --> 00:39:24.130
What did they say? He stretched it too far or something?
00:39:24.250 --> 00:39:26.950
It was something weird. I'd never heard of it. It's a little bit of a fluke
00:39:26.950 --> 00:39:30.710
injury. You know, you can't necessarily even say he did anything wrong or the
00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:31.810
staff did anything wrong.
00:39:32.010 --> 00:39:36.710
I mean, sometimes it's just bodies are a fickle thing. They can betray you a little bit.
00:39:37.010 --> 00:39:43.630
But again, we worry about it. Those were two pieces, huge pieces for the Tigers.
00:39:44.830 --> 00:39:48.810
But either one of them could be back within, if not opening day,
00:39:49.030 --> 00:39:50.090
you know, within the first week.
00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:54.130
So it's not, it's not something where we're ready to write them off or,
00:39:54.190 --> 00:39:57.810
you know, say the Tigers season is a bust or anything silly like that,
00:39:57.810 --> 00:40:01.310
but it definitely sucks that they're injured and that they're not,
00:40:01.490 --> 00:40:04.850
especially Parker who hasn't played like a full season.
00:40:04.990 --> 00:40:09.270
If we could have gotten him a full spring training and then a full season,
00:40:09.270 --> 00:40:10.790
that would have been huge.
00:40:11.701 --> 00:40:15.321
But, you know, even if he's not ready for opening day, guess what?
00:40:15.541 --> 00:40:20.901
I've always said the full season for the modern MLB is like 120 games.
00:40:21.841 --> 00:40:25.781
You're not wrong. And I don't know how I feel about that.
00:40:25.921 --> 00:40:29.841
You know, it's protect your assets, get more longevity out of them.
00:40:30.361 --> 00:40:35.321
Or, you know, do you need to go, you know, just have them freaking pound it
00:40:35.321 --> 00:40:39.721
out until they, you know, have no tendons left in their knees. Right.
00:40:40.121 --> 00:40:42.641
You know, all that stuff. But we were talking earlier, you know,
00:40:42.701 --> 00:40:45.301
I keep seeing these articles and you want to love this.
00:40:45.401 --> 00:40:49.861
Like you want to agree, but you just have, we're too, you just have too much
00:40:49.861 --> 00:40:52.001
brains to let it be the case.
00:40:52.141 --> 00:40:57.661
We're talking about like the Tigers fleeced the Dodgers on the Jack Flaherty trade.
00:40:58.381 --> 00:41:06.981
It's like, it was fine. It was really, I think, an example of absolutely everybody winning.
00:41:07.301 --> 00:41:10.441
It's like that Jared Goll, Magic Staff retreat.
00:41:11.041 --> 00:41:14.421
And as much as you want to say, look at everything we got in return,
00:41:14.421 --> 00:41:17.181
we don't have a Super Bowl ring.
00:41:17.541 --> 00:41:20.701
You know, so we trade Matthew Stafford. It was a good trade.
00:41:20.921 --> 00:41:23.441
We got a lot of pieces that we needed.
00:41:23.761 --> 00:41:26.141
Stafford won a Super Bowl. Stafford won a freaking Super Bowl.
00:41:26.421 --> 00:41:29.101
You know, Jack Flaherty, he wanted to stay.
00:41:29.441 --> 00:41:33.941
We traded him to a team that he helped win the World Series.
00:41:34.601 --> 00:41:39.501
Granted, we got Trey Sweeney and we got, it was Lorenzo.
00:41:39.841 --> 00:41:44.021
Lorenzo. and that's awesome speaking of Lorenzo.
00:41:44.811 --> 00:41:49.371
I'm so confused by our catching situation right now. Well, the Tigers are confused
00:41:49.371 --> 00:41:50.831
by our catching situation too.
00:41:51.011 --> 00:41:55.091
Because, like, I'm so happy that Jake Rodgers is going to be the guy going in.
00:41:55.251 --> 00:41:58.711
But, like, Jake Rodgers might be the odd man out at some point,
00:41:58.851 --> 00:42:00.131
whether it's this year or next year.
00:42:00.291 --> 00:42:03.211
Right. And, I mean, I think that's it. I think Jake Rodgers.
00:42:03.271 --> 00:42:06.471
I already thought that Dylan Dingler was probably going to be a number one catcher
00:42:06.471 --> 00:42:07.751
by the end of the season. Yeah.
00:42:07.991 --> 00:42:12.611
I think he's just better offensively. And Jake Rogers, I mean,
00:42:12.711 --> 00:42:17.611
he's not old, but he's getting up there and he's really sort of taking on that
00:42:17.611 --> 00:42:21.191
role of being Tarek Skubal's personal catcher, you know?
00:42:21.391 --> 00:42:26.431
So Jake Rogers will catch every Tarek Skubal game and he did last year and then
00:42:26.431 --> 00:42:29.371
he can catch some other games and Dingler can play.
00:42:29.371 --> 00:42:32.231
And yeah one of the craziest things though is
00:42:32.231 --> 00:42:35.811
when you're when you're low level you know
00:42:35.811 --> 00:42:39.731
your your you know your class a type guys
00:42:39.731 --> 00:42:45.871
start turning into superstars it's not a problem right but it shuffles up what
00:42:45.871 --> 00:42:50.791
you thought your roster was gonna look like i thought i had some maronzos but
00:42:50.791 --> 00:42:55.071
i don't know if i have any his cards right now but i've seen some like his first
00:42:55.071 --> 00:42:56.251
Bowman's and stuff. Yeah.
00:42:56.511 --> 00:43:02.471
He is a skinny dude in his first Bowman's. You look at him now, he is a thick boy.
00:43:02.511 --> 00:43:05.351
He's like the opposite of... He's like a Victor Martinez.
00:43:05.811 --> 00:43:11.031
Jason Dominguez. Jason Dominguez was thick as... Thicker than a snicker, they say.
00:43:11.831 --> 00:43:16.271
But I was watching him play in the Tiger Spring training game,
00:43:16.371 --> 00:43:17.951
and I was like, dude was looking svelte.
00:43:18.591 --> 00:43:22.511
Like, he trimmed up real nice, so people are kind of down on him right now.
00:43:22.691 --> 00:43:25.051
Well, He has not been doing very well.
00:43:25.591 --> 00:43:28.571
And, I mean, in left field, too, man, he just let that ball,
00:43:28.631 --> 00:43:30.011
it just fell right next to him.
00:43:30.391 --> 00:43:35.471
It's a new position for him. They're like, well, that's the Tampa Bay Sun. I'm like, it's the Sun.
00:43:37.291 --> 00:43:44.391
It's a new position for him. And Al Kaline would have beat him with a wet towel
00:43:44.391 --> 00:43:46.851
after that game because his hole,
00:43:46.851 --> 00:43:52.591
he would make everybody just stare into the Sun until you catch it.
00:43:52.591 --> 00:43:56.971
You know, just as there's no excuse, there's going to be sun during the game.
00:43:57.231 --> 00:44:00.611
So catch it during practice. Like there is no excuse. Yeah.
00:44:01.349 --> 00:44:04.649
So, yeah. But, again, that trade for Jack Flaherty, I'm like,
00:44:04.709 --> 00:44:06.509
let's just not oversell it. Right.
00:44:07.149 --> 00:44:10.889
We got some good pieces back, and we have Jack Flaherty back,
00:44:11.029 --> 00:44:14.669
but we're paying him more money, and he got himself a World Series ring.
00:44:14.689 --> 00:44:21.129
So let's not laugh at the Dodgers, who, by the way, are spending the way you're supposed to spend.
00:44:21.449 --> 00:44:26.489
You know, I had texted Ronnie, and it was just a visceral reaction,
00:44:26.509 --> 00:44:32.229
you know, And I was like, I said, oh, my God, like these the Dodgers are ruining baseball.
00:44:32.589 --> 00:44:35.969
You know, I'm like the Dodgers are ruining baseball. I'm so pissed because,
00:44:36.229 --> 00:44:39.129
you know, with all this deferred money and they're spending billions.
00:44:39.729 --> 00:44:44.329
And I'm like, it just isn't fair. And I didn't come to the realization on my
00:44:44.329 --> 00:44:46.489
own. I'd like to be able to say that I did.
00:44:46.769 --> 00:44:51.949
But I read an article where the guy was like, stop dogging the Dodgers.
00:44:52.509 --> 00:44:56.609
They're doing what you want your team to do. You make money.
00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.729
Spend money invested in your team.
00:45:00.009 --> 00:45:06.649
They're like, be mad at the idiot owners who are pocketing these hundreds of
00:45:06.649 --> 00:45:11.129
millions, if not billions and not putting a good product on the field.
00:45:11.469 --> 00:45:17.109
And I just had to like, kind of hang my head and be like, I had it completely wrong.
00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:21.209
And a lot of it is. Yeah, you're right. It is. A lot of it is deferred.
00:45:21.989 --> 00:45:26.409
I think show Hayes. It was like, he was making 2 million for like two seasons.
00:45:26.409 --> 00:45:28.829
Yeah. Then it was jumping up to $68 million.
00:45:29.269 --> 00:45:34.409
So it's not like they're deferring the whole contract than worrying about paying
00:45:34.409 --> 00:45:38.369
the other $600 million over a billion years.
00:45:38.689 --> 00:45:41.669
And I don't care what it is. If it's legal, do it. Yep.
00:45:42.029 --> 00:45:47.049
Do it. You know, at first glance, you might be mad. You might think it should be illegal.
00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:51.709
You're probably just mad because it's not your team. If the Dodgers are your
00:45:51.709 --> 00:45:55.689
team, you're laughing every day. Just living the good life.
00:45:56.848 --> 00:46:01.268
But, you know, I think what—I'm curious, what do you think for the Tigers,
00:46:01.428 --> 00:46:03.688
right? Do they recreate what they did last year?
00:46:03.788 --> 00:46:06.528
Do they improve on it? Or do they take a step back?
00:46:06.688 --> 00:46:10.848
I don't think they take a step back. I think they might be much of the same. Mm-hmm.
00:46:11.748 --> 00:46:13.248
Anjuries are determined.
00:46:15.308 --> 00:46:21.048
Riley Green's got to stay healthy. Yeah. I don't know why, like,
00:46:22.128 --> 00:46:31.668
Detroit sports has that knack for injuries, whether it's just piss-poor strength
00:46:31.668 --> 00:46:34.568
and conditioning coaches or just freak accidents.
00:46:34.808 --> 00:46:38.148
Right. I wonder that, too, often. you know
00:46:38.148 --> 00:46:41.548
it's like and then you want to say like even
00:46:41.548 --> 00:46:44.648
freak accidents like could they
00:46:44.648 --> 00:46:48.968
be prevented with a different strength and conditioning you know type some of
00:46:48.968 --> 00:46:53.048
them i think can some of them can't be like a different strength and conditioning
00:46:53.048 --> 00:46:57.488
coach isn't going to keep you from running into a wall right you know but you
00:46:57.488 --> 00:47:01.548
know could it prevent other things maybe like the small stuff for sure But, like,
00:47:02.508 --> 00:47:06.108
let's use Aiden Hutchinson as an example. Brickin' a leg.
00:47:06.928 --> 00:47:11.308
I don't – no coach. Only coach is going to prevent that is probably the head
00:47:11.308 --> 00:47:18.428
coach that says, I like your engine, but we need to harness it a little bit.
00:47:19.668 --> 00:47:26.688
And you don't need to go 100% when we know it's – Right. The ball is going to run away from you.
00:47:27.228 --> 00:47:33.708
Yep. With our pitching staff, I don't know. Like, I never seen a pitching staff
00:47:33.708 --> 00:47:35.468
go down like that before. It was weird.
00:47:35.808 --> 00:47:38.908
And now, all of a sudden, coming into this year, we have too many pitchers.
00:47:39.188 --> 00:47:42.328
How does that happen? I don't know. I mean, we did good, right?
00:47:42.328 --> 00:47:44.268
We got Flaherty back. We've got Scooble.
00:47:44.728 --> 00:47:48.928
Cobb was a good signing. He's not out for the year. No, no, no. Cobb will come back.
00:47:49.468 --> 00:47:54.588
Casey Mize, I've got high hopes for Casey Mize. Who else is in the mix?
00:47:54.848 --> 00:47:56.428
We talked about Reese Olsen, right?
00:47:57.108 --> 00:47:59.588
Jackson Jobe is for sure in the mix.
00:48:00.328 --> 00:48:06.368
I wouldn't be mad if he got beat out, right? Right. If he wins the position, give it to him.
00:48:06.648 --> 00:48:10.788
If he's the fourth or fifth best starter, bring him on.
00:48:10.948 --> 00:48:13.208
I know the other day when he had asked me if I was watching,
00:48:13.288 --> 00:48:15.508
I wasn't, like, I was out and about. Yeah.
00:48:16.008 --> 00:48:19.608
By the time I got home and turned it on, like, he was already out of the game. Yeah, exactly. Dang it.
00:48:20.268 --> 00:48:23.868
But, like, from what I've seen, like, he pitched well. He looked real good.
00:48:24.288 --> 00:48:29.348
Very good. And he probably, I mean, he's probably going to win the fifth spot. He probably should.
00:48:29.988 --> 00:48:33.108
If he got beat up, I wouldn't be mad. Well, that's the thing.
00:48:33.248 --> 00:48:37.208
Like I said, if you get beat out, that's the... But I won't be happy if he's
00:48:37.208 --> 00:48:40.968
clearly the fourth or fifth best starter, and they go, ah, we're going to start
00:48:40.968 --> 00:48:43.708
him in AAA. Which is the history of the time. I know.
00:48:44.508 --> 00:48:51.408
So I'm leery of that. Just trying to think. You know, we've got Foley's coming back, right?
00:48:51.568 --> 00:48:55.148
So we've got our closer. Right. Yeah.
00:48:55.687 --> 00:49:00.407
A couple good guys in the bullpen. Who's going to – Jace Young.
00:49:00.547 --> 00:49:05.787
I mean, I think Jace Young is a – we should have two of the favorites for rookie of the year.
00:49:05.927 --> 00:49:09.247
If Jackson Jobe comes right out of the gate as a starting pitcher,
00:49:10.027 --> 00:49:14.587
absolutely you got to think he's – and he's the odds-on favorite right now.
00:49:15.127 --> 00:49:19.727
Jace Young is really in that spot where I think it's a good bet to place because
00:49:19.727 --> 00:49:23.167
it's like his odds are like twice as high as Jobe.
00:49:23.307 --> 00:49:26.167
Right. And I think he's just as likely to win it. I mean, you're going to be
00:49:26.167 --> 00:49:32.307
the everyday third baseman for a team that's in, hopefully, contention.
00:49:32.747 --> 00:49:40.967
I really just hope our—the only really big move I wish we would have made was a new hitting coach.
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But see, I'm not even mad at the hitting coach. Now that—I mean,
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here, you know that Javi Baez is an idiot.
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Right. And we learned that Spencer Torkelson is a freaking idiot.
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Idiot. I've only got my vocabulary only goes so deep.
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They've got like the best hitting machine in the majors.
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And he comes out there and says, boy, I don't use that. I can tell.
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I can tell. No, you can't.
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You can't tell. Maybe you could tell in college. Maybe you could tell in college
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and make that adjustment off the way the ball came off your bat or about how big you whiffed.
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There's just too many stretches of games like where we are so hot and cold,
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and a lot of times it can be cold, and we're losing games that we probably should win.
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And some of the games that we're winning, you're just way too close.
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Like, we're not, we'll get three runs in the first inning, and guess what?
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We'll go through that whole stretch in between.
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Yeah, but I think, like, hitting coaches is really tough because anyone who
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is good enough to be an incredible hitter doesn't need to come back and coach, right?
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Right. It's like I saw the Pirates picked up Daniel Vogelbach.
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Like, did you ever look at Daniel Vogelbach and go, I want that guy teaching
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my guys how to hit? But, like, I mean, I know he's not their hitting coach.
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They have a really good hitting coach. But they picked him up as,
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like, an assistant. And he's working on the hitting and stuff.
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And it's like, that's what you get. I mean, Marcus Thames.
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Marcus Thames is one of, you know, he's with the Yankees forever.
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I think he's with Minnesota now.
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Like, Marcus Thames was, he could hit some home runs. He wasn't an all-star.
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No. He wasn't a superstar.
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You know? And so it's like, how do you decide who your hitting coach is going to be?
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You know? And I'm always torn by that. Is it some guy who's sitting,
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watched analytics his whole life and never played the game?
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Well, I told you this. Maybe. I told you this last year, though.
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I wasn't listening. My problem is when you have a hitting coach at the same
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age as a lot of your players or maybe only two years older than some of your
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oldest players, I think to me that's a problem.
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Right. Because he is not a leader.
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I don't want to see him as a leader. How do you have Mickey on your team and
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then have a 36-year-old, you know, triple-A bust as the hitting coach?
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Just don't talk to Mickey. Right. Like, I get that for sure.
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So, my two big things is, in order for us—I can't talk about your two big things on the air.
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In order for the Tigers to be better than what they were, it's health and offense.
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Can Colt Key step up and be the hitter that they think he is? Yes.
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Can Gleyber Torres hit at Comerica Park? He better.
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And can Riley Green win the batting title?
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Stay healthy, Riley Green can do anything. I think Riley Green,
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this could be the year where Riley Green goes after the batting title.
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I like what I seen last year. He did.
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He has an eye for a ball that I have not seen since Tony Gwynn. I'm going to say Mickey.
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They're very similar. Riley Green wasn't striking out because he was reaching like Javi Baez.
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I can only hear that name so many times in the day before I just shut down.
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But, I mean, I do want to see other people step out. I want to see Jace have a good year.
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I don't need him to hit 300. No, I'm going to hit 260.
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Hey, he can hit 240 with a little bit of power. I'd be happy.
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Trey Sweeney, same thing.
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Trey Sweeney can hit 220 if he's got a good grub and steals some bases.
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Get Carpenter hitting bombs for us. We need him. Carpenter can rake. That's for sure.
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But we can't just have too many of our players batting right around 220.
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That's true. That's Trey Sweeney, and that's it. He's the one player I've got
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to reserve that for. Jake Rogers is going to be that guy, though, too.
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Jake Rogers can be better, but Dylan Dingler will have to balance that.
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I mean, I'll look more at the catcher position than, you know, individual there.
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It's like the first year in a
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while that I'm not really worried about pitching. Pitching has been fine.
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You think Tarek Skubal can repeat? I think so. I agree.
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From what I've seen a little bit of the spring training, he's fine.
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He's so freaking intense.
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He is fine. He is fine. I mean, we brought back freaking, what's his name? Chafin?
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Chafin. Yeah. I know he's in the mud, but he's going to be out.
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He'll be out for sure. He'll be up in the second week in the eighth, but he'll be back up.
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The last two years, I've been furious when we've traded him because he wants to be with us.
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His family's in Ohio.
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He's like, he keeps every offseason. He comes trucking back to Detroit.
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And, you know, he looks like that, like, redneck type of, but he's,
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you know, and he might be, but he's a smart guy.
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He's funny. you know i love he's always wearing
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he's got the girl dad shirt t-shirt that he
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wears he's got the field starter t-shirt that he wears
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like he's just a good time never mad
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at him like even if he has a bad outing you're just like yeah and he's got that
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sort of todd jones look to him so we're kind of used to like exactly you know
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seeing him run out there maybe get rocked a little or keep us on our toes we
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have one of the best pitching coaches too in the league guaranteed like you
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know i wasn't hot on Chris Federer early on.
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Yeah, you know, his resume wasn't really there, but then he had to prove to us that he did.
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I mean, I liked him at Michigan. Of course. I liked him when he was coaching at Michigan.
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I was hot on him then. I was like, yes. I mean, yes.
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I watch college baseball. I love college baseball. College baseball,
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it's your first chance to see.
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These prospects that are up in the major leagues. Hey, I've got one of my BFFs,
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the University of Florida. So it's like I knew Wyatt Langford before anybody knew Wyatt Langford.
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I knew Jack Caglione before anybody else knew Jack Caglione.
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You know, so, again, I don't watch a ton of the baseball, but that's,
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you know, and then he's the middle, the ding of the metal bat, too.
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It's so intense. It gives me like, it actually gives me like nails on a chalkboard. Oh, really?
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In like a good way. Maybe like kind of like when you climb the rope in gym class,
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you know, it just gives you a little funny feeling.
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I don't hate it, but it does to me. It just feels off.
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Like it's the crack of the wooden bat. But even the crack of the bat isn't number one for me.
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Number one for me is the pitch into the catches, man.
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That sound just I could fly away I could fly away on that sound you know what
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it does to me we already talked about gotta keep it clean,
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gotta keep it PG we are really right we're at 59 minutes and 50 seconds so we
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are gonna call it a show I'm Big E this is the Big E and Ronnie show Ronnie, see ya peace.