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Speaker 1: There is a very complicated story that I'm going to do everything I can to break it down for you, and it is about the Jeffrey Epstein files. There was a group of individuals that were asked to come to the White House that received part one of the Epstein files, and I'm going to have that guest, Chad Prather join us in just a moment. But before we get to that, I want you to understand the real part of this story that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot of people saying they're angry by what was released, basically implying that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a reason why there was nothing new there, and this is what you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has told the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York FBI office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are doing this against the wishes and the command of their bosses that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney General Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Ptel to handle the seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly refusing to provide her with the quote full set of documents related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That is what a letter from her office revealed to the American people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated February the twenty seven, from Bondie to Patel was obtained by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests that they actually received this letter at the White House Briefing. Now, at the White House Briefing, they were given Epstein files, Phase one briefing books on exactly the laying out of what they do have. The big part of the meeting which was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam Bondi and the FBI director explained to them very clearly that there are New York FBI officials that have gone completely rogue. The ag letter says the FBI in New York is withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the reports of the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well. Bondi began her letter by saying, this, before you came into office, I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received approximately two hundred pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims' names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request, and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents. The Attorney General continued before we reporting that she got a tip from a source at the FBI Field Office in New York, stating that the bureau was withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein, Bondi continued in her letter to the FBI director. Despite my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of any of these files. Now, let's just pause for a second and dissect what we just learned. Pam Bondi, who is the Attorney journal the United States of America, who is in charge of the FBI, has rogue deep state officials in the FBI office in New York that deliberately lied to her face and claimed that they had given her all of the documents, when in fact they may have given her less than about ten percent percent of what they actually have on hand. This is the deep state and just how corrupt our government has become now. Bondi noted that she had already spoken to Cashptel after receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing that the FBI director was just as surprised as I was to learn the new information quote unquote. She then handed Caspatel too hard deadlines. These are important for you to understand. By eight am on Friday morning, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and material related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained. That is deadline number one in this letter. Deadline number two, she says, I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate investigation to why my order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver to me a comprehend report of your findings and proposed personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion, Bondi added that she knows that Patel has committed to transparency for the American people, and that is exactly what they did together at the White House on Thursday. Now, a Department of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the FBI Field office in New York with held Epstein files in a statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also claimed that Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on the same page. Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying, quote new the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the last forty eight hours a DJ source telling Real Clear Politics that additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the DOJ by the FBI Field Office in New York. I'm told that the letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate, but the speculation that the FBI Director Patel a Bondi are at odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent of the same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now, of course, the media is trying to do anything they can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit, especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we now know from the meeting at the White House with those that were asked to come and receive Phase one of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear that the two people are on the same page, and the letter that she was sending to Cashptel was really a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the job that I am instructing you to do. It was empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the FBI Field Office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox News's Jesse Waters primetime show that are office would begin releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the words that she was using on TV saying that she had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing a lot of information. Pambondi going on TV allowed for the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that is exactly why that brave person came over and said, Hey, you don't have all of the files that you've been told that you have In other words, there are a lot of people in the deep state that have been lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just point out one final thing, there are a lot in the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers were the ones that got this story that they went around the mainstream media. They were spotted out the White House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one. There were people that were so angry because this was the media getting cut out of the big story. They're obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why because they didn't get the binder. And the people that were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives, many of them on social media. You know some of them as things like the libs of TikTok or d C Draino oraan former host, Liz Wheeler, and my guest who is going to join me in just a second, Chad Prayther. He hosts a show and he also hosts Deer America. Now, why were these people picked? They were picked because they were people that actually have a falling of real Americans, Americans actually care about this country. I love the President did this, I love that the Attorney General did this, and I love that they stuck to the liberal media. And the fact that they're freaking out means we're making progress. 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Speaker 2: To be there? Hey, Ben, it's gonna talk to you man. I did not know. In fact, we were invited for a completely different reason. We were not invited on the basis of knowing anything about the Epstein file. In fact, we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D. Vance to talk about messaging and specifically if we had opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing. And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature so that the truth could get out there to people, I mean people with an audience, people like me and people like you. And this was a part of that. What happened as we met with various cabinet members today, it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it. Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director Cash Mattel of the FBI, and she said, you know, in as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking gun here, she said, but we do want to give you phase one. She said. The significant thing that we want to expose is there's a letter that reveals that we're missing thousands of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously, when I's dropped in your lap and then immediately get called in the Oval Office to visit with the president. You're excited. I mean, especially if there's anyone out there like myself and many others who have done research and trying to expose the tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors. You're excited about that. And obviously you want to be able to demonstrate to your audience that the administration is trying to do what they said they were going to do. Obviously wasn't taking that.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of turf war going on right now. And I really want to break this down because there were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come in for this meeting, and all of you were told it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously that was to get you there to keep this quiet. There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there that were left out of this meeting that are now angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's nothing new in these files. That this is an embarrassment, it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats saying this. There's a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages to you going, how do we screw this up so bad?
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Speaker 2: Today?
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Speaker 1: There's nothing in here that we didn't already know. This is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think that's accurate. And you just mentioned that letter, and that's something that we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands of Epstein documents, so yet you got confirmation that file today of what a lot of what we'd heard about. But you mentioned that letter, and so explain how important that is to this being quote phase one.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney General BONDI. Whether you agree with it or not, I mean, we're all hopeful that this administration is going to do what they say and they're going to be transparent. It's not that there's nothing in that notebook, it's just not what we want yet, And that's a big difference. We all want more. We all demand the exposure and the truth. We know that this is a serious subject matter. It's a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question, there are those who are out there who are saying, you know, why weren't we invited, Well, there were literally fifteen sixteen seats around the table. We were invited for a completely different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben, and I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers and creators and hosts out there that I know, if they had gotten the message that I got to be there, they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said, I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested in being a part of that, because there was nothing about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other than we wanted to sit down and talk about message points. We didn't ask for this folder. We didn't expect this folder. We didn't know it.
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Speaker 1: Be clear, when you guys all got there, you just and you and look everybody. I'm assuming it's like a mini family reunion, as I call it. When I was asked to go to the White House for back for the State of the Union in twenty twenty, the last day of the Union, Donald Trump gave before the election back then, you walk in the room pretty much you know everybody. It's a tight conservative community that we live in. You probably knew everybody. And did you notice then that something was different, like, okay, this seems a little different than what we were sold.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I thought we were on track for everything that was going to be I think that a general BONDI was trying to do something, as I said, in good faith. Now to that degree, what in back to your prior question, what that notebook does prove? And there was some information in there that I had not seen. And I've done extensive research on Epstein. I know more about Epstein than the average person knows. We've done some very deep dives on Epstein and exposed a lot of things that people have never thought about. There were some things in there that I've never seen before. To me, and to her defense, she said, it's not a smoking gun, but it's the first step. What we want you to see is that there's a lot of documents that have been withheld by the FBI. That's the significance to this notebook. In my opinion, yes, we want more, but what this notebook proves is that there is more. There's a lot more and the FBI has been withholding that. So to post that, you know, to post a picture with the notebook to me is to say, okay, we want to show you one that the administration is trying to give us some information. They're exposing what's being withheld. But also this is a post that says, hey, we want to hold you accountable to give us this information as well. Now I can't explain while others were invited or not invited or whatever, this was a matter that everybody was called off guard. And I promise you'd been anybody that had received that would I mean, what are we supposed to do throw it back in the face of Attorney General Bondie and say we don't want this notebook? No, of course we're going to take it. So as soon as she gave it to us, we were immediately and you know how it is. It's President Trump called us into the Oval office for a visit. We had to get up and leave. We didn't know what was in the notebook and.
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Speaker 1: Then a right, So so hold on, so let's talk about today. You guys, am, assuming did you come in? And I want to paint this picture because it's just when you get to experiences that really is fun. Did you go in through security by the EEO B and then they walked you guys into the briefing room. Did you come in by the White House side on the West Wing side? And then when did and then where all did you guys go, because it sounds like you had multiple briefings like here and then oh, we're going to go over here and then we're going to the Oval Office.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't actually, and you're familiar with the West Wing. We went into the West Wing entrance, and for those of you who don't know, you immediately check your cell phone, camera, equipment, device, whatever into a locker. After the cocaine scandal of July back two years ago, we all have about the lockers in the right So there's a locker, and you don't take a phone with you. So we spend hours in there without a phone, without a camera. We're not in there looking things up on our phone, checking out the White House WiFi. We're not doing that. You know. It's a very secure space. So we spent the entire time in the Roosevelt Room, which of course is the conference room, which is one door separated from the Oval Office. President Trump came in a little point of trivia. Note it was kind of cool. Harrison Butker, the placekicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I probably shouldn't out him like that, but he was there for a visit. It's great to shake his hand. And then the cabinet members came in and visited with us. We did not expect every and we didn't know who was coming. We didn't know who would be coming next. In fact, one of our mutual friends he told me, he said, I did not know this order was gonna happen. Uh. And so as soon as I got dropped in our lamp, we were immediately called in the Oval office. Now you know you come out the back door. We did not know. Here's the here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Here, by the way, was that your first time in the OV? Was that the for your first office?
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Speaker 2: First time in the office?
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Speaker 1: Can you and I? Can you and I just take a moment and and and and explain for people I don't care you. You have been very blessed in your life and I have to have moments in our in our careers where we've gotten to do some pretty cool things. The very first time I went to the Oval office. Chad was was with Bush uh in this second term after I worked on the campaign in four and when I walked in that Oval office, it was a pinch you moment. I don't care how many times you've seen it on TV. It is amazing. And I had the opportunity to go in that over office quite a few times in his administration, and then I got to go in Uh in the in the in the Trump administration is first term in office when he's forty five. Just how explain that your feelings just getting to walk in there and experience.
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Speaker 2: That, you know, it's one of those moments where obviously the president had come into the Roosevelt Room and addressed this for about five minutes, and then he says, I want you to bring him into the Oval. And you go in there, and it's surreal that if you're anything like me, and you're you're a history buff or an architecture buff, and you've seen this iconic room on TV or movies or depicted, it's surreal you're taking it all in from a new perspective. It's not a camera angle. I mean, it's in three D. You're there, and so it's a special moment and of course, the President's being his typical, jovial, candid, comedic self. And it was a great time. He spent you know, half an hour with us, told us some stories. It was fantastic, and you know, you go in there, and that's one of the reasons why there's a lot of controversy right now. You know, we tweet a lot, we post a lot on x we share a lot on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, truth, all these places we're sharing. I know that people think we just have this team of people doing it. And when DC Draino had posted his picture with the notebook, I copied his post and I put it in my notes and I was going to edit it and then attribute part of it back as quote, and I copy and pasted the wrong thing and posted it to Facebook. And so a lot of people blew up, saying you this is this is messaging from the White House. And I'm like, I promise you were not that sophisticated when you get rushed out of the Oval office after me.
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Speaker 1: By the way, not knowing and not knowing you're going to go there. And if he did what he did when I was there, it's like you go to the gift shop. He loves you to come in, and he loves you to leave with a bunch of stuff like you.
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Speaker 2: Laugh, challenge coins and pins and hats and golf towels. I mean, it's insane. Do you want to die at coke and so you come out after breathing that rarefied air, You're not really in the ultimate presence of mind. Now, I will say this man a lot of people. You know, I made a post on x about that, saying, listen, my fault. I copied and pasted Draino. You know, he's a friend of mine. I copied and pasted him. I pasted the wrong thing back. I didn't do the edited version, and so I went back and edited it on Facebook and attributed it as a quote to him. But you know, the internets forever and people take screenshots, and you know, like, I have nothing to hide here. I've never received a penny from the White House. Neither has anybody else. I mean, coming up here, I'll just be totally transparent coming up here, staying where I'm staying, you know, eating food, traveling everything. It probably cost me about thirty five hundred to four thousand dollars just to be here, for this two or three day stint. And so this idea that we're like Harry Sissen or Chris Mallory is a joke. Simply just simply not the case. So it is.
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Speaker 1: It is truly shocking when you see those that attack, because you've got this incredible honor to be there and yeah, and to see this and look, this wasn't just a meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that you guys talked about as well. And I want you to understand that this was not just one thing only, No.
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Speaker 2: And we can walk you through it. I mean, from Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy talking about what he plans to do with HHS, you know, Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able to talk about I mean, I literally all these people posting on social media. I literally talked to both the Vice President and the President about them holding not just the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords, and they both assured us and gave us a plan of action whereby they're going to take care of that. So all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities were completely different. This just got dropped in our lap. There was some great information that was shared. There was some and if you've ever been in there this administration, and I've been around cabinet members, I've been around the President, I've been around you know, a lot of important people. There was a sense of camaraderie, almost backslapping in the Oval Office today as all of them were there. And it makes me excited about not just the messaging, but it makes me excited that I feel like this this administration is going to do what it says. I totally got the vibe from Pambondi and Director Patel that they fully intend to release everything they get their hands on. You know, people are so jaded and cynical at this point, and I completely understand that nobody wants that information more than me. And the reason is not for you know, clicks and likes or to get a scoop on something. We're genuinely excited about justice. There are there are women and families out there that deserve closure. In no means did we mean to post anything that was going to bring them more harm. We fully ex infected there to be more in that notebook, but again to look at it, what we realized is once again the reason we're jaded is this FBI has been lying to us.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to that headline because I think this is a really important point. The FBI is what we've been told with how thousands of pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents, Pambonni says, and she's demanding that they be turned over. This is the deep state, and this is I'm assuming what you guys got a briefing on. I want you to expand on this. But they'd said she's demanding that they be turned over by Friday morning. I mean, this is the attorney general. You've got Cashpttel, who was there today and his own employees in essence, are not serving the president. They're not serving the FBI director, they're not serving the attorney general. They're going rogue and BONDI disclosed this letter the FBI director Casptel, which has now been put out there that this was a whistle blower, a tipster that said that all but quote approximately two hundred pages of documents were They're still being kept secret at the FBI office in New York, despite her repeated request for the full Epstein files. That is a takeaway from y'all's meeting today.
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Speaker 2: Anyone, anyone in our shoes, would be excited. Anyone sitting in those seats today would be excited. They would have responded the same way. They would have been hopeful. They would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that, and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said, you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information, Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book. So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also, you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and Fox News and all these others is when we went out, obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming in to date, the presspool was there in full force. They were out back when we walked out. You know, unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a giant pile of cameras and uh reporters and they're taking the pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know, it's a it's it is in the messaging of the Trump administration reminding the mainstream media that they're not kings and they're not gods.
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Speaker 1: But by the way, you better frame the picture of you with that binder walking out. I saw it before I even called you, and I just said I was proud of you. Congratulations. Like I hope you frame it and put it over the mantel, my friend. If you don't, I'm gonna do it for you for Christmas and and and I'm gonna charge you for it, because I'm gonna you should do it on your own.
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Speaker 2: There's you know, we go out there and obviously we we all have our disdain for the mainstream media. We all have that that feeling of ire towards them. Uh and you know, obviously there's a little bit on the part of some some folks to want to say, look, we're receiving information that you're not receiving. You know what if that, if that makes you mad, then I'm sorry, I can't help you. Uh. This is a populous president. He is a guy who is he He's not going to play the party games. He doesn't care whose feelings he hurts. We're all that way if you're going to be if you're gonna put up with all the crap we've put up with for over the last eight years, with the persecution, the name calling, and the and the you know, gosh, the demonetization and the deep latforming. Yeah, we we don't mind a little middle finger to the mainstream media.
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Speaker 1: As we should well, and they don't report this news and they lie. And so that goes back to my my my final question for you, which is those that are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that it was a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new. The point I think that I want to make sure this audience understands is that this is the beginning of what we of of this, not the end. Is is that a fair way of putting it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from the sentiment that I got from both General Bondi and UH Secretary or sorry, Director Patel was they literally and they were amicable with one another. I mean, you read that note, you read that letter that Pam Bondi wrote to Cash Pattel, and you would think, oh, somebody's in trouble here, there's this is sort of a rebuke, but it wasn't. And she wanted to make sure that everybody knew that was clear. They are working in conjunction with one another in this new Department of Justice to make sure is that this information comes out. Uh. And and I believe them. I believe them, you know, Ben, I don't. I don't. I don't suffer fools. And man, I can see through people. I'm pretty intuitive. But this this administration what I saw today, the sense, the atmosphere, just as I said earlier, just the backslapping camaraderie of a team working together. Uh. To use Carolyn Levette's phrase, this you can't keep up. It's a whirlwind. This administration is working around the clock. I truly believe them.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree. As I was sitting last week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Cinder Cruz. We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's us against the world, and we are going to do our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going to work together. There is none of this. This is my turf, and you stay off at and it sounds like from the way that you met with so many cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to you as well.
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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a cowboy hat and somehow got popular posting truck videos years ago. The fact that I was sitting in the Oval office today or sitting down with the Vice president and they're willing to talk to me and share with me their priorities, that should tell you I'm nobody. I was the dumbest guy in the room. Tell you how to sixteen people in that room, I was the dumbest guy in the room. Then, I'm telling you there were some intelligent folks in there. But the fact that they would extend an invitation graciously to me and give me the hospitality to come in there, it's surreal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't fly over country. My friend, we ain't fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you and I are friends. You're a real person with a real story to tell, with a real audience of the hard working men and women that just want to be left alone by their government and they want to have a great life for their kids and their grandkids. And going around the media and talking directly to you and others. I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations, I'm proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope it's a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad that they're looking to talk to people like you in these moments who can get it out to everybody else. I'll say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen Grab Chad show. It's great Chad break their show, and then he does a morning show as well called Dear America Rica. Wherever you can get your podcasts, grab it, Chad. I appreciate you taking the time to come on here and talk and tell people what it was really like today. We try to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines, but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris isn't president.
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Speaker 1: There is a very complicated story that I'm going to do everything I can to break it down for you, and it is about the Jeffrey Epstein files. There was a group of individuals that were asked to come to the White House that received part one of the Epstein files, and I'm going to have that guest, Chad Prather join us in just a moment. But before we get to that, I want you to understand the real part of this story that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot of people saying they're angry by what was released, basically implying that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a reason why there was nothing new there, and this is what you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has told the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York FBI office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are doing this against the wishes and the command of their bosses that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney General Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Ptel to handle the seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly refusing to provide her with the quote full set of documents related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That is what a letter from her office revealed to the American people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated February the twenty seven, from Bondie to Patel was obtained by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests that they actually received this letter at the White House Briefing. Now, at the White House Briefing, they were given Epstein files, Phase one briefing books on exactly the laying out of what they do have. The big part of the meeting which was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam Bondi and the FBI director explained to them very clearly that there are New York FBI officials that have gone completely rogue. The ag letter says the FBI in New York is withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the reports of the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well. Bondi began her letter by saying, this, before you came into office, I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received approximately two hundred pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims' names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request, and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents. The Attorney General continued before we reporting that she got a tip from a source at the FBI Field Office in New York, stating that the bureau was withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein, Bondi continued in her letter to the FBI director. Despite my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of any of these files. Now, let's just pause for a second and dissect what we just learned. Pam Bondi, who is the Attorney journal the United States of America, who is in charge of the FBI, has rogue deep state officials in the FBI office in New York that deliberately lied to her face and claimed that they had given her all of the documents, when in fact they may have given her less than about ten percent percent of what they actually have on hand. This is the deep state and just how corrupt our government has become now. Bondi noted that she had already spoken to Cashptel after receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing that the FBI director was just as surprised as I was to learn the new information quote unquote. She then handed Caspatel too hard deadlines. These are important for you to understand. By eight am on Friday morning, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and material related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained. That is deadline number one in this letter. Deadline number two, she says, I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate investigation to why my order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver to me a comprehend report of your findings and proposed personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion, Bondi added that she knows that Patel has committed to transparency for the American people, and that is exactly what they did together at the White House on Thursday. Now, a Department of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the FBI Field office in New York with held Epstein files in a statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also claimed that Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on the same page. Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying, quote new the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the last forty eight hours a DJ source telling Real Clear Politics that additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the DOJ by the FBI Field Office in New York. I'm told that the letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate, but the speculation that the FBI Director Patel a Bondi are at odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent of the same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now, of course, the media is trying to do anything they can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit, especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we now know from the meeting at the White House with those that were asked to come and receive Phase one of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear that the two people are on the same page, and the letter that she was sending to Cashptel was really a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the job that I am instructing you to do. It was empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the FBI Field Office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox News's Jesse Waters primetime show that are office would begin releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the words that she was using on TV saying that she had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing a lot of information. Pambondi going on TV allowed for the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that is exactly why that brave person came over and said, Hey, you don't have all of the files that you've been told that you have In other words, there are a lot of people in the deep state that have been lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just point out one final thing, there are a lot in the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers were the ones that got this story that they went around the mainstream media. They were spotted out the White House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one. There were people that were so angry because this was the media getting cut out of the big story. They're obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why because they didn't get the binder. And the people that were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives, many of them on social media. You know some of them as things like the libs of TikTok or d C Draino oraan former host, Liz Wheeler, and my guest who is going to join me in just a second, Chad Prayther. He hosts a show and he also hosts Deer America. Now, why were these people picked? They were picked because they were people that actually have a falling of real Americans, Americans actually care about this country. I love the President did this, I love that the Attorney General did this, and I love that they stuck to the liberal media. And the fact that they're freaking out means we're making progress. 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Speaker 2: To be there? Hey, Ben, it's gonna talk to you man. I did not know. In fact, we were invited for a completely different reason. We were not invited on the basis of knowing anything about the Epstein file. In fact, we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D. Vance to talk about messaging and specifically if we had opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing. And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature so that the truth could get out there to people, I mean people with an audience, people like me and people like you. And this was a part of that. What happened as we met with various cabinet members today, it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it. Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director Cash Mattel of the FBI, and she said, you know, in as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking gun here, she said, but we do want to give you phase one. She said. The significant thing that we want to expose is there's a letter that reveals that we're missing thousands of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously, when I's dropped in your lap and then immediately get called in the Oval Office to visit with the president. You're excited. I mean, especially if there's anyone out there like myself and many others who have done research and trying to expose the tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors. You're excited about that. And obviously you want to be able to demonstrate to your audience that the administration is trying to do what they said they were going to do. Obviously wasn't taking that.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of turf war going on right now. And I really want to break this down because there were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come in for this meeting, and all of you were told it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously that was to get you there to keep this quiet. There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there that were left out of this meeting that are now angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's nothing new in these files. That this is an embarrassment, it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats saying this. There's a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages to you going, how do we screw this up so bad?
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Speaker 2: Today?
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Speaker 1: There's nothing in here that we didn't already know. This is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think that's accurate. And you just mentioned that letter, and that's something that we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands of Epstein documents, so yet you got confirmation that file today of what a lot of what we'd heard about. But you mentioned that letter, and so explain how important that is to this being quote phase one.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney General BONDI. Whether you agree with it or not, I mean, we're all hopeful that this administration is going to do what they say and they're going to be transparent. It's not that there's nothing in that notebook, it's just not what we want yet, And that's a big difference. We all want more. We all demand the exposure and the truth. We know that this is a serious subject matter. It's a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question, there are those who are out there who are saying, you know, why weren't we invited, Well, there were literally fifteen sixteen seats around the table. We were invited for a completely different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben, and I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers and creators and hosts out there that I know, if they had gotten the message that I got to be there, they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said, I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested in being a part of that, because there was nothing about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other than we wanted to sit down and talk about message points. We didn't ask for this folder. We didn't expect this folder. We didn't know it.
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Speaker 1: Be clear, when you guys all got there, you just and you and look everybody. I'm assuming it's like a mini family reunion, as I call it. When I was asked to go to the White House for back for the State of the Union in twenty twenty, the last day of the Union, Donald Trump gave before the election back then, you walk in the room pretty much you know everybody. It's a tight conservative community that we live in. You probably knew everybody. And did you notice then that something was different, like, okay, this seems a little different than what we were sold.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I thought we were on track for everything that was going to be I think that a general BONDI was trying to do something, as I said, in good faith. Now to that degree, what in back to your prior question, what that notebook does prove? And there was some information in there that I had not seen. And I've done extensive research on Epstein. I know more about Epstein than the average person knows. We've done some very deep dives on Epstein and exposed a lot of things that people have never thought about. There were some things in there that I've never seen before. To me, and to her defense, she said, it's not a smoking gun, but it's the first step. What we want you to see is that there's a lot of documents that have been withheld by the FBI. That's the significance to this notebook. In my opinion, yes, we want more, but what this notebook proves is that there is more. There's a lot more and the FBI has been withholding that. So to post that, you know, to post a picture with the notebook to me is to say, okay, we want to show you one that the administration is trying to give us some information. They're exposing what's being withheld. But also this is a post that says, hey, we want to hold you accountable to give us this information as well. Now I can't explain while others were invited or not invited or whatever, this was a matter that everybody was called off guard. And I promise you'd been anybody that had received that would I mean, what are we supposed to do throw it back in the face of Attorney General Bondie and say we don't want this notebook? No, of course we're going to take it. So as soon as she gave it to us, we were immediately and you know how it is. It's President Trump called us into the Oval office for a visit. We had to get up and leave. We didn't know what was in the notebook and.
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Speaker 1: Then a right, So so hold on, so let's talk about today. You guys, am, assuming did you come in? And I want to paint this picture because it's just when you get to experiences that really is fun. Did you go in through security by the EEO B and then they walked you guys into the briefing room. Did you come in by the White House side on the West Wing side? And then when did and then where all did you guys go, because it sounds like you had multiple briefings like here and then oh, we're going to go over here and then we're going to the Oval Office.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't actually, and you're familiar with the West Wing. We went into the West Wing entrance, and for those of you who don't know, you immediately check your cell phone, camera, equipment, device, whatever into a locker. After the cocaine scandal of July back two years ago, we all have about the lockers in the right So there's a locker, and you don't take a phone with you. So we spend hours in there without a phone, without a camera. We're not in there looking things up on our phone, checking out the White House WiFi. We're not doing that. You know. It's a very secure space. So we spent the entire time in the Roosevelt Room, which of course is the conference room, which is one door separated from the Oval Office. President Trump came in a little point of trivia. Note it was kind of cool. Harrison Butker, the placekicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I probably shouldn't out him like that, but he was there for a visit. It's great to shake his hand. And then the cabinet members came in and visited with us. We did not expect every and we didn't know who was coming. We didn't know who would be coming next. In fact, one of our mutual friends he told me, he said, I did not know this order was gonna happen. Uh. And so as soon as I got dropped in our lamp, we were immediately called in the Oval office. Now you know you come out the back door. We did not know. Here's the here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Here, by the way, was that your first time in the OV? Was that the for your first office?
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Speaker 2: First time in the office?
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Speaker 1: Can you and I? Can you and I just take a moment and and and and explain for people I don't care you. You have been very blessed in your life and I have to have moments in our in our careers where we've gotten to do some pretty cool things. The very first time I went to the Oval office. Chad was was with Bush uh in this second term after I worked on the campaign in four and when I walked in that Oval office, it was a pinch you moment. I don't care how many times you've seen it on TV. It is amazing. And I had the opportunity to go in that over office quite a few times in his administration, and then I got to go in Uh in the in the in the Trump administration is first term in office when he's forty five. Just how explain that your feelings just getting to walk in there and experience.
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Speaker 2: That, you know, it's one of those moments where obviously the president had come into the Roosevelt Room and addressed this for about five minutes, and then he says, I want you to bring him into the Oval. And you go in there, and it's surreal that if you're anything like me, and you're you're a history buff or an architecture buff, and you've seen this iconic room on TV or movies or depicted, it's surreal you're taking it all in from a new perspective. It's not a camera angle. I mean, it's in three D. You're there, and so it's a special moment and of course, the President's being his typical, jovial, candid, comedic self. And it was a great time. He spent you know, half an hour with us, told us some stories. It was fantastic, and you know, you go in there, and that's one of the reasons why there's a lot of controversy right now. You know, we tweet a lot, we post a lot on x we share a lot on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, truth, all these places we're sharing. I know that people think we just have this team of people doing it. And when DC Draino had posted his picture with the notebook, I copied his post and I put it in my notes and I was going to edit it and then attribute part of it back as quote, and I copy and pasted the wrong thing and posted it to Facebook. And so a lot of people blew up, saying you this is this is messaging from the White House. And I'm like, I promise you were not that sophisticated when you get rushed out of the Oval office after me.
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Speaker 1: By the way, not knowing and not knowing you're going to go there. And if he did what he did when I was there, it's like you go to the gift shop. He loves you to come in, and he loves you to leave with a bunch of stuff like you.
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Speaker 2: Laugh, challenge coins and pins and hats and golf towels. I mean, it's insane. Do you want to die at coke and so you come out after breathing that rarefied air, You're not really in the ultimate presence of mind. Now, I will say this man a lot of people. You know, I made a post on x about that, saying, listen, my fault. I copied and pasted Draino. You know, he's a friend of mine. I copied and pasted him. I pasted the wrong thing back. I didn't do the edited version, and so I went back and edited it on Facebook and attributed it as a quote to him. But you know, the internets forever and people take screenshots, and you know, like, I have nothing to hide here. I've never received a penny from the White House. Neither has anybody else. I mean, coming up here, I'll just be totally transparent coming up here, staying where I'm staying, you know, eating food, traveling everything. It probably cost me about thirty five hundred to four thousand dollars just to be here, for this two or three day stint. And so this idea that we're like Harry Sissen or Chris Mallory is a joke. Simply just simply not the case. So it is.
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Speaker 1: It is truly shocking when you see those that attack, because you've got this incredible honor to be there and yeah, and to see this and look, this wasn't just a meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that you guys talked about as well. And I want you to understand that this was not just one thing only, No.
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Speaker 2: And we can walk you through it. I mean, from Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy talking about what he plans to do with HHS, you know, Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able to talk about I mean, I literally all these people posting on social media. I literally talked to both the Vice President and the President about them holding not just the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords, and they both assured us and gave us a plan of action whereby they're going to take care of that. So all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities were completely different. This just got dropped in our lap. There was some great information that was shared. There was some and if you've ever been in there this administration, and I've been around cabinet members, I've been around the President, I've been around you know, a lot of important people. There was a sense of camaraderie, almost backslapping in the Oval Office today as all of them were there. And it makes me excited about not just the messaging, but it makes me excited that I feel like this this administration is going to do what it says. I totally got the vibe from Pambondi and Director Patel that they fully intend to release everything they get their hands on. You know, people are so jaded and cynical at this point, and I completely understand that nobody wants that information more than me. And the reason is not for you know, clicks and likes or to get a scoop on something. We're genuinely excited about justice. There are there are women and families out there that deserve closure. In no means did we mean to post anything that was going to bring them more harm. We fully ex infected there to be more in that notebook, but again to look at it, what we realized is once again the reason we're jaded is this FBI has been lying to us.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to that headline because I think this is a really important point. The FBI is what we've been told with how thousands of pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents, Pambonni says, and she's demanding that they be turned over. This is the deep state, and this is I'm assuming what you guys got a briefing on. I want you to expand on this. But they'd said she's demanding that they be turned over by Friday morning. I mean, this is the attorney general. You've got Cashpttel, who was there today and his own employees in essence, are not serving the president. They're not serving the FBI director, they're not serving the attorney general. They're going rogue and BONDI disclosed this letter the FBI director Casptel, which has now been put out there that this was a whistle blower, a tipster that said that all but quote approximately two hundred pages of documents were They're still being kept secret at the FBI office in New York, despite her repeated request for the full Epstein files. That is a takeaway from y'all's meeting today.
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Speaker 2: Anyone, anyone in our shoes, would be excited. Anyone sitting in those seats today would be excited. They would have responded the same way. They would have been hopeful. They would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that, and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said, you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information, Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book. So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also, you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and Fox News and all these others is when we went out, obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming in to date, the presspool was there in full force. They were out back when we walked out. You know, unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a giant pile of cameras and uh reporters and they're taking the pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know, it's a it's it is in the messaging of the Trump administration reminding the mainstream media that they're not kings and they're not gods.
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Speaker 1: But by the way, you better frame the picture of you with that binder walking out. I saw it before I even called you, and I just said I was proud of you. Congratulations. Like I hope you frame it and put it over the mantel, my friend. If you don't, I'm gonna do it for you for Christmas and and and I'm gonna charge you for it, because I'm gonna you should do it on your own.
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Speaker 2: There's you know, we go out there and obviously we we all have our disdain for the mainstream media. We all have that that feeling of ire towards them. Uh and you know, obviously there's a little bit on the part of some some folks to want to say, look, we're receiving information that you're not receiving. You know what if that, if that makes you mad, then I'm sorry, I can't help you. Uh. This is a populous president. He is a guy who is he He's not going to play the party games. He doesn't care whose feelings he hurts. We're all that way if you're going to be if you're gonna put up with all the crap we've put up with for over the last eight years, with the persecution, the name calling, and the and the you know, gosh, the demonetization and the deep latforming. Yeah, we we don't mind a little middle finger to the mainstream media.
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Speaker 1: As we should well, and they don't report this news and they lie. And so that goes back to my my my final question for you, which is those that are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that it was a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new. The point I think that I want to make sure this audience understands is that this is the beginning of what we of of this, not the end. Is is that a fair way of putting it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from the sentiment that I got from both General Bondi and UH Secretary or sorry, Director Patel was they literally and they were amicable with one another. I mean, you read that note, you read that letter that Pam Bondi wrote to Cash Pattel, and you would think, oh, somebody's in trouble here, there's this is sort of a rebuke, but it wasn't. And she wanted to make sure that everybody knew that was clear. They are working in conjunction with one another in this new Department of Justice to make sure is that this information comes out. Uh. And and I believe them. I believe them, you know, Ben, I don't. I don't. I don't suffer fools. And man, I can see through people. I'm pretty intuitive. But this this administration what I saw today, the sense, the atmosphere, just as I said earlier, just the backslapping camaraderie of a team working together. Uh. To use Carolyn Levette's phrase, this you can't keep up. It's a whirlwind. This administration is working around the clock. I truly believe them.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree. As I was sitting last week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Cinder Cruz. We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's us against the world, and we are going to do our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going to work together. There is none of this. This is my turf, and you stay off at and it sounds like from the way that you met with so many cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to you as well.
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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a cowboy hat and somehow got popular posting truck videos years ago. The fact that I was sitting in the Oval office today or sitting down with the Vice president and they're willing to talk to me and share with me their priorities, that should tell you I'm nobody. I was the dumbest guy in the room. Tell you how to sixteen people in that room, I was the dumbest guy in the room. Then, I'm telling you there were some intelligent folks in there. But the fact that they would extend an invitation graciously to me and give me the hospitality to come in there, it's surreal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't fly over country. My friend, we ain't fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you and I are friends. You're a real person with a real story to tell, with a real audience of the hard working men and women that just want to be left alone by their government and they want to have a great life for their kids and their grandkids. And going around the media and talking directly to you and others. I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations, I'm proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope it's a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad that they're looking to talk to people like you in these moments who can get it out to everybody else. I'll say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen Grab Chad show. It's great Chad break their show, and then he does a morning show as well called Dear America Rica. Wherever you can get your podcasts, grab it, Chad. I appreciate you taking the time to come on here and talk and tell people what it was really like today. We try to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines, but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris isn't president.
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