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In this conversation, Jonathan Sheppard explores the theme of spiritual refinement through the metaphor of fire, as introduced by John the Baptist. He discusses the process of exposing impurities, entering the fire of trials, and emerging transformed. The conversation emphasizes the importance of a…
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