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Coming up this time on Talking Pollocks, Rachel Reeves' hair, which someone has a weird conspiracy about,
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here's Freebie Funtime, his special guest, Beverly, and his not-so-clever-now exit from the leadership race.
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Mr. Torm is back, again. Didn't the Tories do that?
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And Laura Koonsberg's Boris Bonanza, or not Boris Bonanza because she didn't get to do her interview.
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Now, why? Coming up now on Talking Pollocks. Hello everybody and welcome back to Talking Pollocks.
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We've been away for a little while, haven't we, Sean?
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We have, we have. I am here, hello everyone.
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Sean, please tell the listeners why we've been away for so fucking long.
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Because we're lazy. No, no, that's not it at all.
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Basically, we're lazy and we hate you.
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Yeah, no, that's not it. We went on holiday and had a lovely time in Portugal, and then we moved house,
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and then the internet was broken. Well, the internet wasn't installed, so that delayed everything.
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And then just... we're back now.
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We also moved house. I did say that. I literally said that after we went on holiday.
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And then I said that, and that was the bit before the internet wasn't installed.
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We got very angry. Most of it. Basically, on the day that we moved in. Literally.
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And they emailed us and said, no, it's actually going to stay a lot.
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They didn't email us, they phoned us and lied to us, and then phoned us two days later,
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and then told us a different story, and then the next day told us a different story again.
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I know, right? Anyway, Sean, we're back.
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It's all sorted now. We have internet.
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And welcome to life under a Labour government, ladies and gentlemen.
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Oh, I know. Right?
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Eleven weeks, nearly 100 days. It'll be 100 days on Sunday.
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So, let's just have a quick run through of what Kia has managed to do so far.
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What has he managed to do so far?
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Well, he's frozen some pension in them.
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They've not frozen yet.
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Well, they're going to. They now can't afford to heat their home.
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He pre-told them that they're going to freeze to death.
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Which Sean finds hilarious for some reason, by the way. I don't know why.
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I just feel the audacity of it when he's taking accommodation and clothing and glasses off of Mr. Lord.
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Oh, I shouldn't say Mr. Lord Alley.
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Mr. Lord Alley. I like that.
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And he's taking this money off the pensioners.
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And the justification behind it just doesn't sit well with me.
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No, it really doesn't. You know, they are arguing that, oh, there's a £22 billion black hole.
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Oh, is there? Well, most of that has been put there by you with your multi-billion pound pay settlements.
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Sean is ranting.
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So, OK, so if that hole is there, this pensioner's saving is like £1.4 billion in five years' time.
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£1.4 billion out of £22 billion. It's pocket change. It's not going to make a difference.
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They could have took much more drastic measures. It's the same as this private school bill, this private school VAT thing.
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It's not going to make the government money. If anything, it's potentially going to cost them more.
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Why doesn't Lord Alley just pay for the pension and stuff?
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Because he's not allowed to do that.
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Why not?
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Because that wouldn't be influencing anyone. I mean, that wouldn't be in his best interests.
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Allegedly.
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Whenever you say something, Lord, you just say allegedly and it's fine, right?
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But yeah, that's a legal loophole. You can get out of anything by doing that.
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You said no one. Or said a lot of people in jail.
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They just paid fine.
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So, Keir has been taking some phoebe on the side. He's frozen some doughnuts for these people.
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They've brought in some bills or some Acts of Parliament that they said they put in their manifesto.
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And everyone looked at their manifesto and went, OK, well, what does this actually mean?
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And they were like, oh, well, it'll be set out in the legislation. It'll all be set out in the legislation.
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Yeah. So everyone was like, OK, well, it makes sense once you're in power then.
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If you win the election, it'll all make sense what you're saying.
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Legislation didn't give anything away.
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It's about as barren as the manifesto was, to be honest.
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Oh, Lord. So that's good fun. Great British energy. Nobody still understands what it is.
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But yeah, it hasn't been a lot. So let's focus on the story of the moment.
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The moment of the moment. Yeah, of the moment of the moment.
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Yeah. He's he's had a lot of phoebe stuff and he's been given some money back as well.
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Yeah. So I'm going to give you some numbers.
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OK, here we go. This will be fun.
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Since 2019, he's been given 106,000 pounds worth of freebies.
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Just gifts and donations. 106,000 pounds. He could go after this key.
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106 grand. 36 and a half grand of that is from Lord Ali.
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That's probably gone up now considering there's been further declarations, but I haven't looked at the numbers today.
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But there's been lots of declarations.
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And it was also stuff from like the Premier League. 12 grand's worth of football tickets from the Premier League.
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Weren't they planning some kind of football regulator thing?
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You've hit the nail on the head there, baby.
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That is exactly the problem here. You know, they're taking these freebies.
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And what are these companies? They are their for-profit companies.
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What are they hoping to get in return?
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Or giving these free tickets away and.
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Regulation. Yeah, they don't want this bill, obviously.
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But Kia has come out. He sounds like a car, doesn't he?
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Beep, beep. He's trying to defend this by saying, well, I needed to accept the free hospitality of football games because I couldn't be in the stands.
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Too much of a security risk.
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I seem to recall recently seeing an image of Prince William in the stands at a football game.
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Prince William is quite often in the stands at football games.
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Rishi Sunak was always in the stands at football games.
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What makes Kia different?
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What does he need protected? Is it because he knows that his approval rating is so bad that people are just going to lynch him in the street?
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Is that what he thinks? I think really I was eating a gummy bear there.
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I think really the gist of this, ladies and gentlemen, is it hasn't been a good start for Kia, if we're honest.
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Has it, Sean? No, no.
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And it's nice to see, though, that in the Labour Party that they are all quite similar.
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They share the same values, like all of them are doing it.
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Bridget Phillipson, for example, is a Sunderland MP, one of the two, north or south.
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I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Not important.
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She is also the Education Secretary.
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She was given £14,000 by Lord Alley to throw a birthday party.
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For herself.
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Just have this for a party.
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Well, I believe it may have been for an aide, but...
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Hardness. Why, why, why?
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Why is he giving this so much money to the government?
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It's lots of money across all of them.
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But it's not just Lord Alley.
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We won't just tar his name, even though everyone else is.
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That's true.
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I mean, every report that I've seen has been about Lord Alley.
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There's been a couple of other names mentioned.
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So just on the subject of money, another interesting financial story was the poor leadership race.
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Two again hats out.
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Beverly's out.
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The other one is also out.
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Nell's stride.
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Nell's stride, yeah.
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Not important.
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So there was a bit of a mystery to the nation, who I believe it was Robert Jenrick's campaign, which had in the last national.
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Yeah, so it was.
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It was Robert Jenrick's campaign that received a £75,000 donation.
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Obviously quite a substantial donation.
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Needs declaring.
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He declared it.
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However, the company the donation was from was quite questionable, to say the least.
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So in that it didn't exist, right?
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It existed.
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The company was registered on Companies House.
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I have directors.
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Really?
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Like really, really?
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Like really, really.
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I only saw this in a report on the news, I didn't get a chance to look into it further before recording this.
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So it's a real company, yes?
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Yes, so it's a company called Spot Fitness.
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It is a real company.
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Sounds like a rip-off of Spotify, just for like fitness songs, like running music.
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I wish that's what it was.
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I don't actually know what the company does, nobody does anything.
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Oh?
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The company has never made a profit.
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It has no employees.
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And it has recently taken out a loan, I believe, from a company registered in the British Virgin Islands.
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Questionable.
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And it's got about £300 million worth of debt.
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How?
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But what does it do?
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It's just raising his eyebrows, that's what it does.
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Yeah, just the silence was the answer there, that was, I don't know.
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Okay, so it's been what, just over 100 days of the New David government and there is a lot...
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Oh, not yet.
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Oh, not yet, okay, just under 100 days of the New David government.
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And so far it's been a financial fuck-up.
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Yeah, I do want to mention one other thing though, before we move on from the three Bs.
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It's not, one thing that's come up today that's quite big actually, I think, is this whole thing around Taylor Swift.
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Okay, go on.
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So when Taylor Swift came to the UK, there was questioning around the Met Police around giving her a blue light escort.
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The Metropolitan Police initially said no, or were at least very hesitant to say yes, they didn't say yes, to put it that way.
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And then Home Secretary Yvette Cooper and London Mayor Sadiq Khan, both Labour, contacted the Metropolitan Police to put pressure on them,
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to give her a very, very important person's escort of VVIP.
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And then, I don't know if she got it.
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Yes, however, since that story came out, it has developed quite a lot, because just before Yvette Cooper contacted the Met Police, her husband was gifted two Taylor Swift tickets from Taylor Swift's music label.
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Brilliant. It just developed.
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The optics here are very, very not good.
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Okay, so on the subject of the Tories, I suppose, as we went on Mr. Jenring, I'm sure you wouldn't like that.
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Just get that out of our minds for a moment.
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Leverley, out.
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Yes, shock.
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Shock.
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After, I mean, I was rooting for Tom Sutherland and Bigelow, and then the opposition, that would have been quite fun.
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But, he got knocked out, yet.
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Because now I make it to yesterday.
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So I was like, okay, I was thinking to myself, who could win, who out of the rest of them, Emmy, Badenoch, James Cleverly and Robert Jenring, who realistically could win the next election for the Tories?
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And realistically, the only answer that I could come to was James Cleverly.
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So I was thinking, right, yeah, James Cleverly, he was in the lead of the last ballot.
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He's pretty sure quite a win.
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Yeah, I would root for him instead.
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No, knocked out today.
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The Kriff Kurtz.
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It could be, yeah, it could be the Kriff Kurtz.
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Is there a Kriff Kurtz, James?
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Maybe, there could very well be.
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It's been a next week to find out.
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Because, yeah, Kevye Macdott, I think she'd be quite good.
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I can't even say that with a straight face.
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No, I don't think anyone could.
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Some people are, apparently.
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Yeah, so yeah, the Tories are still fighting amongst themselves.
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Yeah, I suppose there's a good and a bad side to having such a long leadership campaign or a leadership battle.
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It gave everyone time to get to know them a bit more.
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James Cleverly, for example, he didn't declare that his wife came with him to a free event at Wimbledon, for example.
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And, you know, that's a bit naughty.
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There's a couple of events.
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It was also the Women's World Cup final in Germany, I believe.
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He took his wife with him to declare it.
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But, you know, they've all made mistakes in this campaign.
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It's sleazy.
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And I kind of just want it to be over.
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It's not doing them any favours.
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They can't mount an effective opposition, which I think we need that for Labour right now.
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Definitely. We certainly need some sort of at least coherent opposition because so far it's just Rishi Sunak.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, he's been very good at PMQ.
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He has been called PM probably more times than Kia has, if I'm honest.
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Sort of like rubbing salt in the wound, isn't it?
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Like, PM, oh sorry, that's me, actually.
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It's funny, isn't it?
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You can't correct yourselves either.
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He does sometimes.
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He has done on the odd occasion.
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I personally have been reflecting on myself.
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Or the house erupts into laughter.
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As per all sides, which I think is quite amusing.
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At least they find the funny side of it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So, yeah, hopefully the Tories didn't sort themselves out in time for Christmas, which hopefully they will.
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The members will get to vote.
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That'll be interesting to see who they go for.
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I think personally his month of redic.
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My prediction.
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Yes, please don't do that again.
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It'll never happen again, sorry.
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I think it's going to come down to Kenny Van Der Hout at Prog.
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That is who it's come down to.
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I don't want to make a prediction.
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I don't know if he will.
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I'm a bit...
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What did the member poll say?
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Was there a member's poll?
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Probably. That's probably a bit long.
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There was quite a few down at the Tory conference a few days ago, wasn't there?
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It's a tough one.
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It's none of the people that I would have predicted to have won.
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It did quite well.
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When the bus went through.
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And speaking of the Tories, their Renters Reform Bill is back, isn't it?
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It is, yeah.
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Rachel...
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Angie.
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Angie has brought it back.
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Isn't it just what the Tories are going to do?
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Kind of, but they have beefed it up a little bit more.
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Obviously the Tories rolled back a little bit on a few of the measures.
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The Labour government who re-rolled them forward.
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Re-rolled them?
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Re-rolled them. So again, they are back.
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Because it was their bill and their one single way that they had it.
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But the thing is, Labour have got such a large majority that they could literally probably just get any degree by now.
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That's a good point.
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They haven't suspended that many just yet.
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Yeah, you've raised a good point there, Sean.
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And it's interesting, isn't it?
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Because in the Winterfuel...
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It was another vote that they had.
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Where a few of them rebelled.
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And they lost the Whitley.
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It was on the two-child benefit cap.
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It was a vote of the King's Speech.
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And five of them, I believe it was five, rebelled.
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And yeah, they were all suspended from the party.
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I know, crazy, right?
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If we brought back in then.
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No, they're still suspended. They're still all sitting as independents.
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They've got swift justice in the Labour Party.
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Did you not hear?
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Well, it's insane how quick politics is.
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I know, I know.
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But talking of Angela Reiner, have you seen Rachel Reeves' hair?
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What the fucking theorists is theory?
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So, yeah, so I feel that...
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So if you haven't seen, you need to Google it.
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Rachel Reeves' new hairdo.
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She's dyed her hair the exact same colour as Angela Reiner.
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What, Ginger?
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Yes.
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Why?
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You see, I have this theory that...
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...that Keir Starmer is just sort of converting everyone around him to look like Angela Reiner.
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So by like January, I'm going to have another cabinet member look like...
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Yvette Cooper will be the next one. She'll dye her hair Ginger.
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I can't wait for West Street Ink to come in to a Downing Street with long Ginger hair.
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Nice shoulder-length bob.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Just explain this to me again. You think that...
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Well, you think Keir Starmer is turning the Labour Party into some sort of short Ginger-haired cult?
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Well, I wouldn't call it a cult because that would open us to libelous claims in the courts.
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But among those lines, allegedly, you think...
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You seem baffled, Brin.
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I am, yeah. I'm struggling here. What's the end game?
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Just want everyone to look like Angela Reiner.
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It's like, have you ever seen that episode in Doctor Who where the Master converts Stan in that machine and he converts everyone on Earth to look like him?
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Well, he's done that. He's done... Keir's doing the same thing. He puts Angela Reiner in the machine.
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He's converting one person at a time.
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It's not possible if Keir Starmer had two cards, he would have made the way to a window fuel payment.
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Oh, that was smooth.
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It's like I burned, none of them.
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Anyway, there's one final thing that we need to talk about, Sean.
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And it's... some of you may remember a villain from the back. His name is Boris.
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Last name, Boris. Might not read it. Might be some.
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We should have an in with a presenter well known on this panel.
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Laura Coonsburg from BBC.
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Yes. Sean.
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And now, we don't claim to be journalists whatsoever. OK, everyone.
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Now, we do our research. We have a little bit of fun with this. You know, it's very like-hearted.
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Laura Coonsburg is supposed to be a very serious journalist, OK?
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And she's been doing it for so long. She's been a journalist for so long.
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For a very long time.
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Now, one thing that you don't do...
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For example, if you're at work and you write up a dirty email about your boss,
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one thing you don't do is send that email to the boss.
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Now, what Laura Coonsburg did or did, sorry, grammar, is all of her questions and notes,
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her interview with Boris Johnson, her plans.
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She was going to send them to her editor, or I believe it was her editor.
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The way that she phrased it was she has a small team of people that works with her,
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and she was going to send it to them.
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OK, this will be like her research. Her team, to check with her.
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She sent it to Boris Johnson instead.
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She sent it to the team as well.
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As well.
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She just cc'd Boris Johnson in.
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Why wouldn't you?
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It's an easy mistake to make. I always do it.
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When I'm sending emails, I always put Boris Johnson in the cc email list.
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I can't help it. Just make that mistake sometimes.
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Oops.
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Oh no, I sent this email to Boris Johnson. I don't know why.
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Boris Johnson has got so many emails about broadband.
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Oh dear.
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So yeah, she...
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Isn't there somewhere?
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Laura Coonsburg, we've done fucked up again.
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Again? It's like...
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Rookie mistake.
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Rookie mistake.
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Is that everything, Sean? I think that's everything.
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That is the least.
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Well that is the last couple of days, so we don't have an hour.
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Yeah, it's a short one to get us back to the flow of things.
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There might be some foundation.
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Apologies for those. We're still getting this going in.
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We're set up for work.
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We're getting there. Sean can no longer hear my computer through the...
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Woo! We're fixing things one at a time.
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Baby steps. Baby steps.
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Thank you for listening. Thank you for sticking.
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Welcome, I guess, to a new season of Talking.
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In which we will explore labour.
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And how Britain shapes under the next X amount of years under labour.
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Can't say for sure.
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I reckon it's going to be cubed and quite cold.
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But especially for the elderly.
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We'll see you next time. Love you, bye.
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Okay, let's try this one more time. Coming up...
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As soon as I said coming... Sorry!
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Coming up this time on Talking Pollocks, Rachel Reeves' hair, which someone has a weird conspiracy about,
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here's Freebie Funtime, his special guest, Beverly, and his not-so-clever-now exit from the leadership race.
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Mr. Torm is back, again. Didn't the Tories do that?
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And Laura Koonsberg's Boris Bonanza, or not Boris Bonanza because she didn't get to do her interview.
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Now, why? Coming up now on Talking Pollocks. Hello everybody and welcome back to Talking Pollocks.
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We've been away for a little while, haven't we, Sean?
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We have, we have. I am here, hello everyone.
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Sean, please tell the listeners why we've been away for so fucking long.
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Because we're lazy. No, no, that's not it at all.
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Basically, we're lazy and we hate you.
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Yeah, no, that's not it. We went on holiday and had a lovely time in Portugal, and then we moved house,
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and then the internet was broken. Well, the internet wasn't installed, so that delayed everything.
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And then just... we're back now.
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We also moved house. I did say that. I literally said that after we went on holiday.
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And then I said that, and that was the bit before the internet wasn't installed.
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We got very angry. Most of it. Basically, on the day that we moved in. Literally.
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And they emailed us and said, no, it's actually going to stay a lot.
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They didn't email us, they phoned us and lied to us, and then phoned us two days later,
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and then told us a different story, and then the next day told us a different story again.
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I know, right? Anyway, Sean, we're back.
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It's all sorted now. We have internet.
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And welcome to life under a Labour government, ladies and gentlemen.
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Oh, I know. Right?
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Eleven weeks, nearly 100 days. It'll be 100 days on Sunday.
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So, let's just have a quick run through of what Kia has managed to do so far.
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What has he managed to do so far?
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Well, he's frozen some pension in them.
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They've not frozen yet.
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Well, they're going to. They now can't afford to heat their home.
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He pre-told them that they're going to freeze to death.
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Which Sean finds hilarious for some reason, by the way. I don't know why.
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I just feel the audacity of it when he's taking accommodation and clothing and glasses off of Mr. Lord.
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Oh, I shouldn't say Mr. Lord Alley.
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Mr. Lord Alley. I like that.
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And he's taking this money off the pensioners.
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And the justification behind it just doesn't sit well with me.
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No, it really doesn't. You know, they are arguing that, oh, there's a £22 billion black hole.
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Oh, is there? Well, most of that has been put there by you with your multi-billion pound pay settlements.
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Sean is ranting.
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So, OK, so if that hole is there, this pensioner's saving is like £1.4 billion in five years' time.
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£1.4 billion out of £22 billion. It's pocket change. It's not going to make a difference.
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They could have took much more drastic measures. It's the same as this private school bill, this private school VAT thing.
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It's not going to make the government money. If anything, it's potentially going to cost them more.
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Why doesn't Lord Alley just pay for the pension and stuff?
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Because he's not allowed to do that.
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Why not?
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Because that wouldn't be influencing anyone. I mean, that wouldn't be in his best interests.
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Allegedly.
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Whenever you say something, Lord, you just say allegedly and it's fine, right?
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But yeah, that's a legal loophole. You can get out of anything by doing that.
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You said no one. Or said a lot of people in jail.
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They just paid fine.
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So, Keir has been taking some phoebe on the side. He's frozen some doughnuts for these people.
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They've brought in some bills or some Acts of Parliament that they said they put in their manifesto.
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And they were like, oh, well, it'll be set out in the legislation. It'll all be set out in the legislation.
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Yeah. So everyone was like, OK, well, it makes sense once you're in power then.
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If you win the election, it'll all make sense what you're saying.
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Legislation didn't give anything away.
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It's about as barren as the manifesto was, to be honest.
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Oh, Lord. So that's good fun. Great British energy. Nobody still understands what it is.
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But yeah, it hasn't been a lot. So let's focus on the story of the moment.
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The moment of the moment. Yeah, of the moment of the moment.
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Yeah. He's he's had a lot of phoebe stuff and he's been given some money back as well.
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Yeah. So I'm going to give you some numbers.
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OK, here we go. This will be fun.
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Since 2019, he's been given 106,000 pounds worth of freebies.
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Just gifts and donations. 106,000 pounds. He could go after this key.
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106 grand. 36 and a half grand of that is from Lord Ali.
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That's probably gone up now considering there's been further declarations, but I haven't looked at the numbers today.
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But there's been lots of declarations.
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And it was also stuff from like the Premier League. 12 grand's worth of football tickets from the Premier League.
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Weren't they planning some kind of football regulator thing?
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You've hit the nail on the head there, baby.
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That is exactly the problem here. You know, they're taking these freebies.
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And what are these companies? They are their for-profit companies.
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What are they hoping to get in return?
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Or giving these free tickets away and.
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Regulation. Yeah, they don't want this bill, obviously.
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But Kia has come out. He sounds like a car, doesn't he?
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Beep, beep. He's trying to defend this by saying, well, I needed to accept the free hospitality of football games because I couldn't be in the stands.
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Too much of a security risk.
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I seem to recall recently seeing an image of Prince William in the stands at a football game.
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Prince William is quite often in the stands at football games.
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Rishi Sunak was always in the stands at football games.
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What makes Kia different?
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What does he need protected? Is it because he knows that his approval rating is so bad that people are just going to lynch him in the street?
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Is that what he thinks? I think really I was eating a gummy bear there.
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I think really the gist of this, ladies and gentlemen, is it hasn't been a good start for Kia, if we're honest.
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Has it, Sean? No, no.
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And it's nice to see, though, that in the Labour Party that they are all quite similar.
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They share the same values, like all of them are doing it.
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Bridget Phillipson, for example, is a Sunderland MP, one of the two, north or south.
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I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Not important.
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She is also the Education Secretary.
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She was given £14,000 by Lord Alley to throw a birthday party.
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For who?
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For herself.
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Just have this for a party.
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Well, I believe it may have been for an aide, but...
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Hardness. Why, why, why?
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Yeah, good question.
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Why is he giving this so much money to the government?
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It's lots of money across all of them.
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But it's not just Lord Alley.
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We won't just tar his name, even though everyone else is.
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That's true.
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I mean, every report that I've seen has been about Lord Alley.
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There's been a couple of other names mentioned.
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So just on the subject of money, another interesting financial story was the poor leadership race.
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Two again hats out.
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Beverly's out.
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The other one is also out.
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Nell's stride.
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Nell's stride, yeah.
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Not important.
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So there was a bit of a mystery to the nation, who I believe it was Robert Jenrick's campaign, which had in the last national.
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Yeah, so it was.
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It was Robert Jenrick's campaign that received a £75,000 donation.
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Obviously quite a substantial donation.
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Needs declaring.
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He declared it.
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However, the company the donation was from was quite questionable, to say the least.
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So in that it didn't exist, right?
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It existed.
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The company was registered on Companies House.
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I have directors.
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Really?
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Yes.
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Like really, really?
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Like really, really.
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I only saw this in a report on the news, I didn't get a chance to look into it further before recording this.
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So it's a real company, yes?
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Yes, so it's a company called Spot Fitness.
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It is a real company.
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Sounds like a rip-off of Spotify, just for like fitness songs, like running music.
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I wish that's what it was.
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I don't actually know what the company does, nobody does anything.
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Oh?
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The company has never made a profit.
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Oh.
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It has no employees.
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And it has recently taken out a loan, I believe, from a company registered in the British Virgin Islands.
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Questionable.
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And it's got about £300 million worth of debt.
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How?
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But what does it do?
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It's just raising his eyebrows, that's what it does.
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Yeah, just the silence was the answer there, that was, I don't know.
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Okay, so it's been what, just over 100 days of the New David government and there is a lot...
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Oh, not yet.
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Oh, not yet, okay, just under 100 days of the New David government.
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And so far it's been a financial fuck-up.
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Yeah, I do want to mention one other thing though, before we move on from the three Bs.
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It's not, one thing that's come up today that's quite big actually, I think, is this whole thing around Taylor Swift.
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Okay, go on.
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So when Taylor Swift came to the UK, there was questioning around the Met Police around giving her a blue light escort.
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The Metropolitan Police initially said no, or were at least very hesitant to say yes, they didn't say yes, to put it that way.
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And then Home Secretary Yvette Cooper and London Mayor Sadiq Khan, both Labour, contacted the Metropolitan Police to put pressure on them,
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to give her a very, very important person's escort of VVIP.
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And then, I don't know if she got it.
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Did she?
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Yes, however, since that story came out, it has developed quite a lot, because just before Yvette Cooper contacted the Met Police, her husband was gifted two Taylor Swift tickets from Taylor Swift's music label.
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Brilliant. It just developed.
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The optics here are very, very not good.
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Okay, so on the subject of the Tories, I suppose, as we went on Mr. Jenring, I'm sure you wouldn't like that.
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Just get that out of our minds for a moment.
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Leverley, out.
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Yes, shock.
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Shock.
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After, I mean, I was rooting for Tom Sutherland and Bigelow, and then the opposition, that would have been quite fun.
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But, he got knocked out, yet.
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Because now I make it to yesterday.
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So I was like, okay, I was thinking to myself, who could win, who out of the rest of them, Emmy, Badenoch, James Cleverly and Robert Jenring, who realistically could win the next election for the Tories?
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And realistically, the only answer that I could come to was James Cleverly.
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So I was thinking, right, yeah, James Cleverly, he was in the lead of the last ballot.
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He's pretty sure quite a win.
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Yeah, I would root for him instead.
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No, knocked out today.
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The Kriff Kurtz.
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It could be, yeah, it could be the Kriff Kurtz.
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Is there a Kriff Kurtz, James?
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Maybe, there could very well be.
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It's been a next week to find out.
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Because, yeah, Kevye Macdott, I think she'd be quite good.
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I can't even say that with a straight face.
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No, I don't think anyone could.
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Some people are, apparently.
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Yeah, so yeah, the Tories are still fighting amongst themselves.
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Yeah, I suppose there's a good and a bad side to having such a long leadership campaign or a leadership battle.
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The good parts of it being that, you know, it gives the members time to hear their pitches.
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It gave everyone time to get to know them a bit more.
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Whereas, it's also given them time to all make mistakes.
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James Cleverly, for example, he didn't declare that his wife came with him to a free event at Wimbledon, for example.
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And, you know, that's a bit naughty.
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There's a couple of events.
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It was also the Women's World Cup final in Germany, I believe.
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He took his wife with him to declare it.
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But, you know, they've all made mistakes in this campaign.
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It's sleazy.
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And I kind of just want it to be over.
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It's not doing them any favours.
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No.
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They can't mount an effective opposition, which I think we need that for Labour right now.
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Definitely. We certainly need some sort of at least coherent opposition because so far it's just Rishi Sunak.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, he's been very good at PMQ.
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He has been called PM probably more times than Kia has, if I'm honest.
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Sort of like rubbing salt in the wound, isn't it?
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Like, PM, oh sorry, that's me, actually.
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It's funny, isn't it?
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You can't correct yourselves either.
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He does sometimes.
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He has done on the odd occasion.
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I personally have been reflecting on myself.
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Or the house erupts into laughter.
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As per all sides, which I think is quite amusing.
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At least they find the funny side of it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So, yeah, hopefully the Tories didn't sort themselves out in time for Christmas, which hopefully they will.
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The members will get to vote.
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That'll be interesting to see who they go for.
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I think personally his month of redic.
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Oh, OK.
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My prediction.
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I think...
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Yes, please don't do that again.
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It'll never happen again, sorry.
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I think it's going to come down to Kenny Van Der Hout at Prog.
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That is who it's come down to.
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I don't want to make a prediction.
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I think...
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Out of the...
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I think Prog Generic will probably take it, I think.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if he will.
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I'm a bit...
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What did the member poll say?
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Was there a member's poll?
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Probably. That's probably a bit long.
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There was quite a few down at the Tory conference a few days ago, wasn't there?
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Yeah.
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It's a tough one.
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It's none of the people that I would have predicted to have won.
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With Kenny I would have predicted to get quite much.
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It did quite well.
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When the bus went through.
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And speaking of the Tories, their Renters Reform Bill is back, isn't it?
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It is, yeah.
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Rachel...
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No, not Rachel.
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Angie.
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Angie has brought it back.
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Isn't it just what the Tories are going to do?
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Kind of, but they have beefed it up a little bit more.
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Obviously the Tories rolled back a little bit on a few of the measures.
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The Labour government who re-rolled them forward.
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Re-rolled them?
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Re-rolled them. So again, they are back.
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But again, it's going to go through Parliament and we'll see.
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Will it actually stay that way?
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If the Tories don't sort themselves out, probably not.
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Because it was their bill and their one single way that they had it.
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But the thing is, Labour have got such a large majority that they could literally probably just get any degree by now.
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That's a good point.
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They haven't suspended that many just yet.
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Yeah, you've raised a good point there, Sean.
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And it's interesting, isn't it?
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Because in the Winterfuel...
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No, it wasn't the Winterfuel Paper Cup.
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It was another vote that they had.
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Where a few of them rebelled.
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And they lost the Whitley.
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Oh, at the beginning of the Parliament, yes.
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It was on the two-child benefit cap.
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It was a vote of the King's Speech.
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And five of them, I believe it was five, rebelled.
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And yeah, they were all suspended from the party.
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I know, crazy, right?
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If we brought back in then.
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No, they're still suspended. They're still all sitting as independents.
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Really?
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They've got swift justice in the Labour Party.
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Did you not hear?
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Well, it's insane how quick politics is.
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I know, I know.
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But talking of Angela Reiner, have you seen Rachel Reeves' hair?
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What the fucking theorists is theory?
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So, yeah, so I feel that...
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So if you haven't seen, you need to Google it.
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Rachel Reeves' new hairdo.
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She's dyed her hair the exact same colour as Angela Reiner.
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What, Ginger?
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Yes.
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Why?
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You see, I have this theory that...
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...that Keir Starmer is just sort of converting everyone around him to look like Angela Reiner.
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So by like January, I'm going to have another cabinet member look like...
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Yvette Cooper will be the next one. She'll dye her hair Ginger.
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I can't wait for West Street Ink to come in to a Downing Street with long Ginger hair.
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Nice shoulder-length bob.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Just explain this to me again. You think that...
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Well, you think Keir Starmer is turning the Labour Party into some sort of short Ginger-haired cult?
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Well, I wouldn't call it a cult because that would open us to libelous claims in the courts.
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But among those lines, allegedly, you think...
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OK, OK.
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You seem baffled, Brin.
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I am, yeah. I'm struggling here. What's the end game?
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Just want everyone to look like Angela Reiner.
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It's like, have you ever seen that episode in Doctor Who where the Master converts Stan in that machine and he converts everyone on Earth to look like him?
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Well, he's done that. He's done... Keir's doing the same thing. He puts Angela Reiner in the machine.
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He's converting one person at a time.
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It's not possible if Keir Starmer had two cards, he would have made the way to a window fuel payment.
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Oh, that was smooth.
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It's like I burned, none of them.
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Anyway, there's one final thing that we need to talk about, Sean.
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Yes.
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And it's... some of you may remember a villain from the back. His name is Boris.
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Last name, Boris. Might not read it. Might be some.
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We should have an in with a presenter well known on this panel.
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Laura Coonsburg from BBC.
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Yes. Sean.
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And now, we don't claim to be journalists whatsoever. OK, everyone.
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Now, we do our research. We have a little bit of fun with this. You know, it's very like-hearted.
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Laura Coonsburg is supposed to be a very serious journalist, OK?
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And she's been doing it for so long. She's been a journalist for so long.
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For a very long time.
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Now, one thing that you don't do...
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For example, if you're at work and you write up a dirty email about your boss,
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one thing you don't do is send that email to the boss.
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Now, what Laura Coonsburg did or did, sorry, grammar, is all of her questions and notes,
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her interview with Boris Johnson, her plans.
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She was going to send them to her editor, or I believe it was her editor.
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The way that she phrased it was she has a small team of people that works with her,
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and she was going to send it to them.
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OK, this will be like her research. Her team, to check with her.
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She sent it to Boris Johnson instead.
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She sent it to the team as well.
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As well.
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She just cc'd Boris Johnson in.
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Why wouldn't you?
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It's an easy mistake to make. I always do it.
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When I'm sending emails, I always put Boris Johnson in the cc email list.
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I can't help it. Just make that mistake sometimes.
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Oops.
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Oh no, I sent this email to Boris Johnson. I don't know why.
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Boris Johnson has got so many emails about broadband.
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Oh dear.
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So yeah, she...
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But...
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Isn't there somewhere?
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Laura Coonsburg, we've done fucked up again.
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Again? It's like...
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Rookie mistake.
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Rookie mistake.
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Is that everything, Sean? I think that's everything.
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That is the least.
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Well that is the last couple of days, so we don't have an hour.
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Yeah, it's a short one to get us back to the flow of things.
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There might be some foundation.
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Apologies for those. We're still getting this going in.
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We're set up for work.
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We're getting there. Sean can no longer hear my computer through the...
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Woo! We're fixing things one at a time.
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Baby steps. Baby steps.
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Thank you for listening. Thank you for sticking.
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Welcome, I guess, to a new season of Talking.
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In which we will explore labour.
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And how Britain shapes under the next X amount of years under labour.
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Can't say for sure.
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I reckon it's going to be cubed and quite cold.
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But especially for the elderly.
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We'll see you next time. Love you, bye.
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Bye.
