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It's Talk Funny, a podcast by Mark Daily and comics
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from all over. We ended up in Japan because apparently
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what happened in New York makes it onto the New
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York Times to Talk Funny podcast from Nicole Radio Dot
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Common Nogoha Comedy.
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Here's Mark Bailey, Mark Bailey, Mike Miller and Talk Funny.
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So it's time to discuss the elephant in the room,
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the mob connection to comedy in the room, the coming
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for us, yeah, coming for us.
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Yeah.
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And part of me is, like you think, Nagoya is
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like a gem of an audience. Go ahead, I want
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to talk to I want to talk to Jimmy like
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some good fellows. I want to talk to Jimmy. He's
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gonna whack you. Go ahead, right there, it's right down there.
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Mike on the left, your your one, it's right down there.
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Go ahead, knock yourself out. I've been doing this for
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eleven years and I've lost not much hair. But all
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the hair I lost is from this crap, putting up
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with open micers on the crap all the anymore, being
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assaulted by a certain kilometers and kilometers and kilomorates you
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know who, you are, being challenged to a duel. Go ahead,
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go ahead, you want to You're.
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Like vortex, You're just like you attract I don't know
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what it is.
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Yeah, it's successful. Yes, please come to our show. No, No,
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we've had we've had some very good audiences. They're not
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is we got to promote more. But we have some
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good We have some we've had some really good audience.
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Members of the last show were great.
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I'm not complaining about the audience.
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They had a good time.
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Plain me about the people we work with, the club owners, Yeah,
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and the people that think they're funny, and the people
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that want to tell stories, and the people that complain
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about our open mic rules and the things. It's not
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the audience.
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Well, the one guy who caused the biggest stink is
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had brain surgery, so uh and thankfully he's okay, but
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I think that might have been affecting his judgment maybe
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a little bit.
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I want to send him and by the way, we
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we you know, they're talking about acoustic weapons, experienced acoustic Yes,
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who is Are you fat? Are you pregnant?
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Yes?
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Drove all the girls out of our audience. Yeah, yeah,
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I mean.
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You kind of got a kind of that's the that's
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the one downside I will say about doing the open
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mic before the show is that often we have things
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like that happened that are beyond our control even and
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people people get kind of antsy, and it's like, well,
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these are open micurs.
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This is not the main show, right, But most shows
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do it at the beginning.
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If you do it, you don't want to do it
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a the end.
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No one's gonna say, but everybody wants to be Yeah,
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remember everybody we couldn't.
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We can remember a certain guy who played the pan flute.
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Yeah, and another guy who was hammered out of his mind.
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And everybody's hammered, and now they all want to get.
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The guy who played the pan flute. I won't say
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his name, but he was hilarious because he was he
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was up playing the pan flute and uh, he was
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doing a noble job. But people, it was a comedy show.
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People didn't come for music. And then he was getting
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really angry that no one was listening to him, and
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I was like, well this, first of all, the show's over.
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Second of all, this is not a music This is
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not a concert. This is a comedy show.
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Did you see the crowd along with folk music?
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Oh?
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Yeah, you know. I mean, yeah, So I'll call this
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guy John Guy, So John Gotty you want Hey, you
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want a piece of Argloia. Yeah, i'll give you. I'll
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give you the ten minute story guy that had brain surgery.
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I'll give you the guy. Are you f fifteen minutes?
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That was not ten minutes? Yeah, I'll give you the
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the guy from Lebanon who can't take criticism, who wants
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to be on a podcast so to promote his porn business,
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who flames me eighteen times a day. Oh yeah, I'll
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give you him. I'll give you the guy who saw
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him after you well, I blocked him. I'll give you
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the guy who assaulted me on stage. Yeah, just strangle me. Yeah,
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give you the guy who chose to fight with another
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guy with a long period. Yeah. You got five guys
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right there. Yeah, you take them if you want. He said,
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please don't throw me into the briar patch. Please please
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don't come to Nagloia and try to hire people. Oh
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I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Yeah, and
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you kind of arm my worst enemy enough. So I
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thought that we should probably.
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We have a rogues gallery. We should put a poster up,
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you know, if you see these.
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People, so that, like you, you've said for you've predicted
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that novelty is going to wear off. Yea, because nicoy
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audience is don't pay twenty five hundred yen for long.
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Well, I think I think there's a limited number of
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people for every month. I think it's a little limited number.
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About our audience. Our audience is one thousand yen. Yeah,
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and they complain about five hundred gen beer.
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Yeah. But I think one thing we do, we do
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need to We should take it as inspiration and we
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should also like be promoting more and we should also
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be doing more online stuff. But the thing is, we're teachers,
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so there's a limit. There's kind of a limit to
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what we can do. You know, we have day jobs
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that we have to worry about, so we can't get
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too spicy in our online videos. And a lot of
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these people they get attention, they get attention from from
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doing kind of spicy videos on TikTok and Instagram stuff
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like that. And you know, I don't. I prefer the
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podcast because we can talk freely and nobody sees our faces,
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so we have a little bit of anonymity, Like if
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people want to know who we are, of course they
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can find out who we are, but it's not it's
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not like we're we're we're blasting our faces out to everywhere.
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And we've got the podcast. The former the autistic guy,
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he said he was going to start a podcast up
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there and took, yeah, that's the reason I started. I'm like, well,
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they're not gonna get anything on us. They've never done anything. Yeah,
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they have a couple of guys. They're nice enough guys,
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but they don't get the listeners that we get and
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a lot of comics.
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And we've just been making money handle or fist off
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this podcast.
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So, oh, you ruined the illusion. I was telling itybody,
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we don't make money. Wait, we get more money from that, Like,
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let's help these guys out. The Lebanese guy one of
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the reasons he got pissed off. He wanted to be
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on the podcast and I said fine, and he goes,
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but you pay my transportation. I said, we're not making Yeah,
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we're not making money for that.
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I think that who was in his kind of young
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prima donna face. Now he's moving into more. Oh, recently
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he asked you that porn business and all that. I mean,
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it's just it's gonna blow up at some point. You
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can't be doing that and doing the other job. You
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know that, he does. I think it's the two worlds.
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When those two worlds touch each other, there's going to
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be an explosion and bad things are gonna happen. You
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know what I mean, Like, you can't you can't work
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in those two different worlds and not have blowback.
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But yeah, he was flaming me, and I said, look,
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I'm not arguing with you. I'm just explaining. And I
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sent kind of a LinkedIn explanation. We have listeners, but
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we're like Spotify is getting money from us, We're not
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getting money. Yeah, and uh, and he said I didn't
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need like a new Tora. He was getting a little antisemitic.
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And then and he said, but also, you can't say
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that Jews don't control the media.
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Did he tore you a new asshole?
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He said, you can't say that Jews don't control the media.
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You control the podcasts. Yeah, okay, I also control the weather.
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I can control the podcasts.
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I control the weather. It's like saying it's not even
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a very profitable thing. Is the Jews control dice manufacturing?
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The Jews control value cleaner chords.
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No, I think he's the printer ink cartridges.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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For forget the movie The Media printer in cartridges.
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Her family happens with you is that's Carly Simon's empire. Really,
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it was Wesen and Kodak, Kodek Kodak. They do print,
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they do.
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That's a real racket ink.
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There used to be a place of racket. I think
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it was Yamatadink right around the corner.
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He used to be able to be used to have
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to buy cheap stuff from China and refill them yourselves.
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And then they then they banned that and they suited
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all those companies.
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There was Yamada Dunkey, yeah, and you could just they
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had printers for five thousand yen. Yeah, and then you
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just throw it away and you never changed. The cartridges
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are nine thousand yen. Yeah.
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I saw a printer on Amazon dot Com recently four thousand,
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five hundred and then I was like oh, and then
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I was like how much are the cartridges? And I
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was like, eh, so you only that's why you get
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a laser printer. Don't get thee in chets are ridiculous.
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To use the cartridges and when they buy.
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My parents have a laser printer and they've got a
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big there's a big cartridge of ink and you have
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to change it like what every six months or every year.
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They don't print a lot. They last forever. They last forever.
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So I thought it'd be a good chance for us
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to talk about how the Gooy Comedy is unique.
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So I'll kind of say a bit about the feedback
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that we had when we've had guests come down here.
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We've had times where we've had guests come down and
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we've done our bits and they go, you can say that,
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you can talk about that, and I was like, yeah,
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we do. We talk about everything. We're not We're not limited.
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And then we had that weirdo come to us after
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the show and go, so, what is it you guys
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really want? Like, like, I know what you want us
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to say, but it's not something I not something I I.
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It's not that I'm hiding it. No, I just don't
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want to say that because it's there's no reason to
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say that stuff.
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I've had John Gotti in Tokyo insinuate to us. He
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thinks the way the Goya Comedy does comedy, it's not
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in alignment with him that the way he wants to
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do it. So me, you know how I'm talking about?
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Yeah, got so metaphorical John Gotti.
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He's sly, like.
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A like a yes, a wolf, Yeah, a wolf.
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Yeah. So I said, yeah, the thing is, yeah, paying
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people what I get paid, get a communist, paying people
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what I get paid, Recommending heavily new sets every month,
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fresh new comedy every month, recommending that comics right monthly. Yeah, okay, Boomer,
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you know, okay, Yeah, I guess that's not in alignment
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with what you want to do. I will just say
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this and that and that and that, but I just
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say this. I was gonna say's a running dangerfield in
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the eighties. Jerry Seinfeld, Jaylen.
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Did you see the package? Was he in a robe?
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Let me for this? Jay LENO. I got advice from
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Rita Rudnue gave me advice too. I got advice from
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Bob Saget, Gilbert Gutfried. You were two a little bit
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of respect for yourself. I mean, I would never treat
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well Lucy kay is actually my age. I would never
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treat not that I'm George Carlin, what would be. I
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would never treat Larry Miller the way John Gotti is
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treating us. I would never do that out of respect
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for SEMPI, for people that were there before me. Maybe
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we did it differently then. You don't know you were
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two guys at forty four to forty six. We're two,
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so I don't need advice from you. And now now
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you're coming for us, go ahead, knock yourself up. You're
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gonna you're gonna shoot yourself on the head after two
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years of working in the get.
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Well, we're gonna. I think we'll just keep on deal
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what we do and we will find a new audience
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and expand an audience and.
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Keeping our same audience because our audience doesn't pay twenty
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five hundred.
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No, but you see, we don't have to charge twenty
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five hundred because we don't travel, don't we don't like
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we're just here. We're already here in the city. We
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the bullet train come down. I guess if you take
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the mob connection to comedy in the room, the coming
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for us, yeah, coming for us.
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like a gem of an audience. Go ahead, I want
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to talk to I want to talk to Jimmy like
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some good fellows. I want to talk to Jimmy. He's
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gonna whack you. Go ahead, right there, it's right down there.
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Mike on the left, your your one, it's right down there.
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Go ahead, knock yourself out. I've been doing this for
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eleven years and I've lost not much hair. But all
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the hair I lost is from this crap, putting up
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with open micers on the crap all the anymore, being
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assaulted by a certain kilometers and kilometers and kilomorates you
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know who, you are, being challenged to a duel. Go ahead,
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go ahead, you want to You're.
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Like vortex, You're just like you attract I don't know
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Yeah, it's successful. Yes, please come to our show. No, No,
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we've had we've had some very good audiences. They're not
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is we got to promote more. But we have some
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Plain me about the people we work with, the club owners, Yeah,
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and the people that think they're funny, and the people
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had brain surgery, so uh and thankfully he's okay, but
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I want to send him and by the way, we
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we you know, they're talking about acoustic weapons, experienced acoustic Yes,
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who is Are you fat? Are you pregnant?
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want a piece of Argloia. Yeah, i'll give you. I'll
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give you the ten minute story guy that had brain surgery.
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the guy from Lebanon who can't take criticism, who wants
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to be on a podcast so to promote his porn business,
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who flames me eighteen times a day. Oh yeah, I'll
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give you him. I'll give you the guy who saw
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him after you well, I blocked him. I'll give you
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the guy who assaulted me on stage. Yeah, just strangle me. Yeah,
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guy with a long period. Yeah. You got five guys
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that novelty is going to wear off. Yea, because nicoy
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and they complain about five hundred gen beer.
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these people they get attention, they get attention from from
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he said he was going to start a podcast up
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there and took, yeah, that's the reason I started. I'm like, well,
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they're not gonna get anything on us. They've never done anything. Yeah,
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they have a couple of guys. They're nice enough guys,
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a lot of comics.
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we don't make money. Wait, we get more money from that, Like,
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let's help these guys out. The Lebanese guy one of
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the reasons he got pissed off. He wanted to be
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but you pay my transportation. I said, we're not making Yeah,
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we're not making money for that.
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prima donna face. Now he's moving into more. Oh, recently
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he asked you that porn business and all that. I mean,
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it's just it's gonna blow up at some point. You
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can't be doing that and doing the other job. You
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know that, he does. I think it's the two worlds.
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know what I mean, Like, you can't you can't work
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in those two different worlds and not have blowback.
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sent kind of a LinkedIn explanation. We have listeners, but
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we're like Spotify is getting money from us, We're not
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getting money. Yeah, and uh, and he said I didn't
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need like a new Tora. He was getting a little antisemitic.
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Did he tore you a new asshole?
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He said, you can't say that Jews don't control the media.
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You control the podcasts. Yeah, okay, I also control the weather.
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I can control the podcasts.
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I control the weather. It's like saying it's not even
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a very profitable thing. Is the Jews control dice manufacturing?
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The Jews control value cleaner chords.
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For forget the movie The Media printer in cartridges.
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Her family happens with you is that's Carly Simon's empire. Really,
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it was Wesen and Kodak, Kodek Kodak. They do print,
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they do.
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That's a real racket ink.
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it was Yamatadink right around the corner.
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He used to be able to be used to have
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to buy cheap stuff from China and refill them yourselves.
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all those companies.
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There was Yamada Dunkey, yeah, and you could just they
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had printers for five thousand yen. Yeah, and then you
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just throw it away and you never changed. The cartridges
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are nine thousand yen. Yeah.
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I saw a printer on Amazon dot Com recently four thousand,
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five hundred and then I was like oh, and then
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I was like how much are the cartridges? And I
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was like, eh, so you only that's why you get
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a laser printer. Don't get thee in chets are ridiculous.
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To use the cartridges and when they buy.
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My parents have a laser printer and they've got a
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big there's a big cartridge of ink and you have
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to change it like what every six months or every year.
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They don't print a lot. They last forever. They last forever.
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So I thought it'd be a good chance for us
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to talk about how the Gooy Comedy is unique.
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So I'll kind of say a bit about the feedback
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that we had when we've had guests come down here.
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We've had times where we've had guests come down and
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we've done our bits and they go, you can say that,
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you can talk about that, and I was like, yeah,
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we do. We talk about everything. We're not We're not limited.
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And then we had that weirdo come to us after
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the show and go, so, what is it you guys
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really want? Like, like, I know what you want us
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to say, but it's not something I not something I I.
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It's not that I'm hiding it. No, I just don't
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want to say that because it's there's no reason to
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say that stuff.
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I've had John Gotti in Tokyo insinuate to us. He
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thinks the way the Goya Comedy does comedy, it's not
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in alignment with him that the way he wants to
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do it. So me, you know how I'm talking about?
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Yeah, got so metaphorical John Gotti.
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He's sly, like.
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A like a yes, a wolf, Yeah, a wolf.
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Yeah. So I said, yeah, the thing is, yeah, paying
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people what I get paid, get a communist, paying people
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what I get paid, Recommending heavily new sets every month,
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fresh new comedy every month, recommending that comics right monthly. Yeah, okay, Boomer,
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you know, okay, Yeah, I guess that's not in alignment
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with what you want to do. I will just say
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this and that and that and that, but I just
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say this. I was gonna say's a running dangerfield in
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the eighties. Jerry Seinfeld, Jaylen.
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Did you see the package? Was he in a robe?
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Let me for this? Jay LENO. I got advice from
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Rita Rudnue gave me advice too. I got advice from
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Bob Saget, Gilbert Gutfried. You were two a little bit
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of respect for yourself. I mean, I would never treat
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well Lucy kay is actually my age. I would never
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treat not that I'm George Carlin, what would be. I
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would never treat Larry Miller the way John Gotti is
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treating us. I would never do that out of respect
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for SEMPI, for people that were there before me. Maybe
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we did it differently then. You don't know you were
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two guys at forty four to forty six. We're two,
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so I don't need advice from you. And now now
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you're coming for us, go ahead, knock yourself up. You're
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gonna you're gonna shoot yourself on the head after two
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years of working in the get.
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Well, we're gonna. I think we'll just keep on deal
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what we do and we will find a new audience
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and expand an audience and.
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Keeping our same audience because our audience doesn't pay twenty
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five hundred.
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No, but you see, we don't have to charge twenty
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five hundred because we don't travel, don't we don't like
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we're just here. We're already here in the city. We
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don't have to spend nieman en each on the shinkansen
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to come down here and go back. That's the thing
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that people don't understand the economics of comedy. You're not
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gonna be making that much money because it's just the shinkansen,
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the bullet train come down. I guess if you take
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the bus. But the bus to Tokyo that's a long
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that's a whole day, let's say five hours if you
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want to take the bus.
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Well, there's a point we reached it as well. There's
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a point where it's like, hey, we're doing comedy, let's
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do different cities. Let's do a tour, because yeah, it
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sounds cool to say you do a tour. We were
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doing Okazaki and we're doing you know, doing Gifu, and
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it's like we're kind of on a tour, right, we've
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made it. And there's a point, like the Stages of
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Drinking by Larry Miller, there's a point where you go,
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you know, Kazaki and Nagoya, why don't we just do
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it in Gooya? It's just a pain. And to go
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to other cities. We love Okazaki, we love Okazaki, but
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it's just a pain to travel.
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Remember we used to go to Gifu. Yeah, it's so
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many adventures up there. But that's not not far.
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I think you reach a point. They reached a point
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where they're like, let's tour and and and Steve and I.
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We're touring Fukuoka. Yeah we didn't do that again.
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That was weird.
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It's like you got a little kid. And when I
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was a kid and my parents were old school boomers.
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So you had a lamp at my grandpa's house with
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no light bulb in it, and it's hooked into the hall,
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and can I put having like four or five? Can
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I put my finger in here? I goes, well you can,
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technically's technically He goes, why would you want to do that?
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But I want to see what it's like. And he goes,
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you're only gonna do it one. But he was right.
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I never did it again. Wow, you're going to tour
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and then you're gonna realize, man, this is like a
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waste of time. Yeah, and we're not making much money. Yeah,
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you won't do it for long? Go ahead, it's right
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down there, Sean JG. But no, I worked for eleven years.
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You want eleven years to wrestle this from aple cash
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who didn't pay us? I know, just for the radical
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idea that we write new stuff and we pay when
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I get paid. This guy doesn't pay what he gets paid.
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He gets more.
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But who knows. We'll just keep doing what we're doing
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and they'll do what they do, and that's that's that.
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But they're nice to me when I go up there.
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I think I could go up there again and they'll
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still be nice to me. I think there's like three
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minute open mic stuff and they're like, you could do
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six to eight. It was just courtesy, yeah, for you know,
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because we're I.
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Just think we need a little bit more diversity in
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the comedy thing seen in general, I think we need
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more diversity in the comedy scene, like different different groups
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in different cities doing different stuff. Like Kansai Comedy. I
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went down there and did a show with them. They're
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really good. They're nice people, and they're also kind of
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outsiders because the old time guys, the Osaka comedy people
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been doing that for years, so they're kind of upstarts.
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Well, the thing is with Nagoya, it's a very finite audience. Yeah,
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it's very rare. Mark Bailey Mike Miller on Talk Funny