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Welcome aboard the System
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76
computers, manufacturing, and pop OS.
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Now for your in-orbit crew.
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The marketing team did an escape room.
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We did do an escape room.
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And we escaped.
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I think they helped the sound of it.
Whatever.
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We escaped.
We got out of there.
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Our soul has escaped.
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Our bodies are actually
still trapped there.
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Yeah.
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It was really fun, though.
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It was a pirate-themed escape room.
Arr.
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Hi, everybody.
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Welcome to the The System 76
transmission Log podcast, where you get
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System 76 updates like hardware
news, software news, sale news.
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And just random nerdy stuff.
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We just finished wrapping
up our back to school sale.
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So all of you should be at school now.
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We had a little bout
of science during that.
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We ran an experiment with the desktop
accents because the Walnut wood accents
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have been our most popular, but
they're also the default configuration.
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I've had a question for a while now of,
were they the most popular just because
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they were the default, or how many people
getting these are actually
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wanting the Walnut versus another color?
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For the back to school sale,
we had some seasonal etched accents.
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There was one with the tux penguins,
one with some physics formulas, and one
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that was a DNA helix design.
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We left the helix on default.
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The The results of this experiment
are that the Walnut is still on top.
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People really love
the Walnut accent, Emma.
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That's pretty interesting.
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But I think we need a cosmic-themed one.
Yeah, for sure.
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I did love the Tux one, though.
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That was super cute.
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It was cool to see that
the Helix and the Tux accents
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were towards the top of the list.
Yeah, definitely.
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Speaking of cosmic, we
released the Alpha last month.
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Yeah, that was a big deal.
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The community had a lot of
positive things to say about it.
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Our latest blog highlights some of
the favorite quotes from the press
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and community coverage.
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My favorite quote was
from the Linux experiment.
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He said, The foundation seems very solid,
and I wouldn't be surprised if in a year
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or two, this thing was considered
the default desktop environment
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that you would recommend to anyone.
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We've been hearing a lot of similar things
from around the Linux community.
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There's a lot of excitement
around where this thing is going
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to where it's going to end up.
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We've been hearing about a lot
of cosmic spins on different distros.
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Fedora has one right now.
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Arch has a looser one.
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Opensuce, Serpent, Redox, Nix, Cashi.
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I've been hearing mint is on the way.
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But the question that's been ringing
in my head is, once Cosmic
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is officially released, are we
going to see it on a main Linux distro
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replacing what they currently have?
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Yeah, that'll be interesting to see.
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To celebrate in August, we flew in
a bunch of remote employees
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to System 76 HQ here in Denver.
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We immediately went to work on having fun,
doing some karaoke, some bowling.
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I think there was ping pong there, too.
And pool.
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Pool, lots of good food.
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The engineers had their own summit,
so there were a lot of updates shortly
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after the Alpha release as well.
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A lot of focus on and discussion
around accessibility.
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What's interesting, too, is Cosmic
and POP have come a really far way.
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When I started in 2018, being a Mac user
at the time, I was really happy
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to see that there was something
out there with the potential to be
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a true third option to Mac and Windows.
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With Cosmic, it feels like that's
closer than it's ever been.
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I showed the pre-alpha to a friend
shortly before the Alpha release.
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I was talking about the level
of customization in cosmic listing off.
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You can customize the panels,
you can customize this and that.
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He's like, Well,
my laptop can do that, too.
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Then I showed him the theming,
and quickly, he just
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got so much more interested.
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He was asking
for a Colorado Sunrise theme,
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and I had to make him Colorado Sunrise.
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He was asking for a sunny winter,
and I had to make him sunny winter.
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There was a penitentiary
one in there, too.
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I don't even know what that was.
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Very strange request,
but that's why we're friends.
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But it's just exciting to see that
even people He's a Windows user, so even
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people who don't really have Linux on
their radar are starting to show interest
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in it, and that's very exciting to me.
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You'll see that we released
an official, still work in progress,
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design system for Cosmic as well as
an app template and an applet template.
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And that will help people, even
though it's still an alpha,
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it'll help people develop for Cosmic
in a way that looks like Cosmic, ranging
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from the fonts used to the widgets
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used in certain circumstances.
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It's all right there for you
if you want to get started on that.
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Along with the Alpha, we launched
the Cosmic Ambassador program
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for contributors and promoters, which has
different levels to earn swag items.
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So submissions have ranged from
sharing links to cool themes
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to a calculator, a weather app, dozens of
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pull requests on GitHub, and bug reports.
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Just so many contributions have been
pouring in, and everything is welcome
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and encouraged, and we're super excited
to watch this program grow.
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So if you're out there sharing anything
about Cosmic, or if you're
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switching Switching people
to Cosmic, join the program,
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get free stuff, you might as well.
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We're also helping grow the community
by having in-person meetups
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at the System 76 Factory.
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We're meeting all types of nerds
every month and sharing our love
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of open source with our new friends.
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One of our most active groups,
though, is actually online.
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It's the online community
for the POPOS Facebook Group.
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It has Paul Arman as the administrator,
and they engage in dozens of
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helpful Linux conversations every week.
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Paul is so helpful just responding to
everyone's comments and getting people
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to start talking about POP.
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So thanks and shout out
to Paul for his great work
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on the POPOS Facebook group page.
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Also, We do have one event coming up.
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It's the Software Freedom
Day celebration on September 21st.
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Yeah, we're going to be
hosting at the factory.
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It's going to be a really fun party
with food and prizes and also fun
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I have here in my notes.
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That's just some extra fun for you.
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Even if you're not local to Denver,
you can host your own party through
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the Digital Freedom Foundation, which is
the global host of Software Freedom Day.
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They encourage people
to celebrate all around the world.
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We're just continually excited to see
open source grow and very thrilled that
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people are excited as we are for things
like cosmic and excited to help.
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There's actually celebrations in Spain,
Portugal, Mexico, and tons of other
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locations, all listed on digitalfreedoms.
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If you're interested in throwing an event,
definitely get it registered on there
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and join the community
of Software Freedom Lovers.
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Now, Emma, we have a special guest
for the podcast today, don't we?
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We do.
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We have a System 76 customer and fan,
Dave Shaver, who is an IT director
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at a local hospital and his local church.
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It's a cool name, and it's It's
a fascinating interview to listen to.
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So here we go.
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Thanks so much for joining us today, Dave.
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We really appreciate you coming
to share your Linux experience with us.
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Can you tell us a little bit
about yourself and what you do for work?
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Might take a minute.
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Officially, I'm the IT director here at
a small hospital in Northern New Mexico.
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I've actually worked
here for almost 28 years.
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I started off as a tech support guy
and then moved into systems
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administration And then a few years ago,
my boss left and I decided to take over.
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So I've been running that for
probably over five years now.
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So I still do a lot of CIS admin stuff
just because we're a small facility
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and my CIS admin just left.
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So I'm filling in for
that role completely now.
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But we're looking to hire,
but that's what I do all day.
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And also on the side, I run a web hosting
business and I do some websites.
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One of the customers
does a 20-page full-color so I do
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some graphic design work with that.
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And I'm also an associate pastor at
our church, where I do all the IT stuff
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there, and I'm in the band,
and a little bit of filmmaking.
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We do some promotional stuff
at the church, and I have actually
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worked on a full-length feature film.
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It was an indie film that was a few years
back, but been around for a while and had
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a few opportunities to do a few things.
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So I'm engaged in a lot of graphic design
work and film stuff on the side.
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What programs are you
using for your graphic design?
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I was with Adobe for quite a while
until they changed their pricing.
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So I found replacement tools, some of them
open source and some of them not.
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Speaking of open source,
what has your Linux journey looked like?
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I've been around for a while.
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I actually heard of Linux way back
in the '90s, but I didn't really
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get a start until probably
2000, maybe a little bit after that.
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I actually purchased Red Hat
for like, $69, not knowing that
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I could get it for free.
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So it was several years after that,
but started incorporating it
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into our environment just because
it was easy to set up and easy
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to manage and it was reliable.
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You just turned it on and let it run and
it ran for months or even years before
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you had to do restarts and so forth.
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So that was a real big plus.
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And trying to save money
like I do in a small hospital,
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found out that the licensing,
well, that's pretty convenient.
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So it started off small,
some web servers and so forth.
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But back in, was it 2013, I think we set
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up a mail server using Zymbra and sentOS,
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and that thing lasted all these years
until just about a year ago.
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But we have a number of Linux servers
in operation today, several web
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servers, and of course, a lot
of appliances that are needed.
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So it's actually a significant portion
of what we have in our data center.
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Cool.
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And which system 76 laptop do you
have and what led to your decision
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to choose system 76 for a laptop?
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Well, actually, a few years
ago, I bought into Apple.
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I always avoided Apple.
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And then when I got into the music side
of things, I figured I needed Apple, just
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the latency and all that stuff.
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But I just don't like...
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They have a lot of control
over the OS, and I don't.
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And so Linux just fits that bill.
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It gives me the freedom to do what I want.
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I can jump from distro to distro
Anyway, so I wanted to have a system
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that was dedicated to Linux that had
some power to it, but I didn't
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want to buy into the other big companies.
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So I started looking around and
came across both System 76 and Malibu.
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When I came back to System 76,
I did the same amount of research,
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and I was just impressed with everything
I saw, the attitude and the desire
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for freedom to repair and just
all the ideologies that System 76 had.
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So I wanted I also get a gaming system
because I do a little bit
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of that on the side.
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So I opted for the Adder, and
it's a pretty beefy machine, i9 with
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the 4060 card in there, and I like it.
I really do.
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It's got a lot of power.
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I have not put it through
its full paces yet.
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I do find it hard to find the time
to do all those things that I want
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to do with it, but I have plans,
so I'll be working on that.
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I have finally tested Shaders
in Minecraft using system, and it's cool.
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That's awesome.
I like it a lot.
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That's awesome.
Back to your workflow.
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I know you do a lot
of different things with tech
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since you're a smaller business,
but what does your day-to-day look like?
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One of our key goals here is just to keep
everybody working without disruption.
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They're taking care
of patients, and I appreciate
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when they're taking care of me.
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I know that I want to provide
that same level of support for our staff
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so that they take care of my family
as well as all the patients the same way.
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I think we have a good report here.
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So there's nothing
consistent about our day.
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We don't have a set plan.
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It's fly by the seat of our pants.
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And sometimes it's digging
into the servers and figuring out how
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to update them or how to replace them.
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And other times it's replacing a toner
and a printer, which isn't beautiful
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or exciting, but it's necessary.
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So this staff can keep working.
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So And how about at the church?
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What IT needs does the church need?
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Thankfully, not a ton
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We do have video surveillance.
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There's a lot of shenanigans
that go on around the building,
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but I've got the experience to know
how to run cable and do the installs,
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and so actually installed all of that.
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That's the big piece.
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We also do live streaming
of our Sunday service, so we have
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a system set up for that.
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I've used OBS Studio and Tricaster also.
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We have Tricaster live streaming system
set up here at the hospital.
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That's way too much machine for what
we really need, but it's pretty nice.
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We have a nice high-powered
workstation for that.
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And of course, the office computer
and we also have another computer
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for the overheads.
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So I have that all linked together
with various video cables, and we have
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a big TV and a projector so that we can
display all that information
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for everyone at the church
and also livestream it simultaneously.
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Also, then go and edit down the video
a little bit to post on YouTube.
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Because we broadcast our music,
we can't use Facebook or YouTube
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because of the licensing on that.
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So I go back in later,
edit that down, and then repost it.
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And just a few months ago, I
started translating it all into Spanish.
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So using some AI tools for that, Da
Vinci Resolve lets me export all the...
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Well, it does the description.
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So I get it in English, then I can
jump over to a website called narakeet.
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Com, and they will speak out
any language that you need.
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So it generates an audio file,
then I can overlay that over top
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of the video and post that.
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And interestingly enough, we get
a lot more views on the Spanish feeds
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than we do on the English ones.
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So you've mentioned a couple
of the programs you've used.
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What are some of the key tools
and software you rely on daily?
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So the tools that I use,
I use Obsidian for notes.
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There's other note programs
out there, but I like Obsidian because
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it works across all platforms, so I can
put it on my iPad, take notes there.
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I can set it up on Linux
or Windows and have notes there.
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It organizes things for me.
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I was using Bitwarden.
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I use that in other places, but KeePass
is free, and I trust its encryption.
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For browsing, I use Firefox,
brave, and Opera.
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I use those simultaneously because
it allows me to have multiple windows
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on screen and it allows me to be logged
in as administrator and as a user at
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the same time, instead of getting kicked
out of one if I'm using the same browser.
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Gimp and Inkscape, I use at work here.
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I don't have to Well, Affinity doesn't
work on Linux, so maybe someday.
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But GIMP and Inkscape work, I can
use those well enough to do the graphics
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that we need for the hospital.
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I use a bit of Midjourney for some of the
graphics that I create for our websites.
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We We have three websites, actually
four, an outside website that
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all the patients can see when
they want to find out about our hospital.
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We have a staff website that
staff members get, and then we have
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an IT one that just us IT guys use.
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I do a lot of graphics
and work with WordPress on that.
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Wordpress is another one
of those tools that I use.
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On the more nerdy side with the servers,
I've built both Apache and NGINX servers
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with MySQL and MariaDB,
and of course, WordPress.
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I used Drupal back in the day,
but I found WordPress, if you just
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need a website, boy, you can
fire up WordPress and be good to go.
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Drupal is a bit more of a deep
dive, and I haven't actually
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touched it for several years now.
Yeah.
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Just because of the
convenience of WordPress.
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I love WordPress.
Yeah.
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What do you think is the most significant
advantage of using Linux in your IT work?
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Well, probably one of the big advantages
is that I feel because I'm separated
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from the Windows environment, that
if something sweeps through the Windows
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systems, that I won't be affected.
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Or if my machine is infected
for some reason, that it
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won't immediately jump across.
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Most of the infection tools out there
are OS-specific and don't really have
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the ability to jump across that much.
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So that's one of the things
that I look at as a positive.
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I also like the ability that I have
to lock lock things down quite a bit.
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With all the security that
we have to deal with and the compliance
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and all those rules coming down,
I like that I can really tighten down
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my machine and make it pretty much
invisible to the rest of the network.
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So with that, I can then
run a virtual machine of windows
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if I need to do those things.
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And because it's netded behind
virtual boxes network or whichever
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other virtualization tool I want to use,
I know that machine is somewhat
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protected as well from the network.
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So if anything ever happens,
I know that I can just sit down,
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fire up my machine, and I'll be ready
to handle anything that's necessary.
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So security is a huge deal for you guys.
Yeah.
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We've always taken security seriously,
but it's really taking a front seat.
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It would be nice if we had somebody
dedicated specifically for security.
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I'm not a security guy, but I've been
thrust into that world, and it's just
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part of what we deal with day to day.
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And with the information
that we have in a hospital, we can't
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letting that information get out.
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So we do take it very seriously, and we've
made big strides over the last couple
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of years to improve our situation.
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Cool.
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Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Did you have anything else
you want to add about your journey
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and your experience with System 76?
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I'm sure I'll have more to say
in the months to come, but so far
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I'm enjoying it, and I'm looking
forward to really digging in there
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and trying some new things.
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Okay, that's awesome.
All right.
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Thank you.
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Okay, Alex, let's play a game.
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Are we playing a game?
I see a tin can.
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Yes.
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Inside this tin can is an object
that I took from System 76.
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It's smaller than this can, obviously.
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I'll give you one hint after I...
I'm going to shake it.
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Here, listen to this shake.
Okay.
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Now, the hint is the System 76 logo
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is printed on this item.
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Printed on this item.
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Is it the bottom panel
of a launch keyboard?
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That would be larger than a can.
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Let me try that again.
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Yeah, I don't think.
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It wasn't even a good guess, Alex.
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It's a very large can.
Okay.
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Do you need another shake?
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Yeah, let's do...
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Is it a coaster?
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No.
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That's your only guess.
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It is tricky.
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The Same thing I did that one other time.
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I was thinking you would think.
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It's a flash drive.
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It's a System 76 pop USB.
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All right.
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I was hoping it would
be my wildest dreams.
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Oh, well, I'd say good job,
but you didn't do a good job.
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Sorry.
I know.
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Thanks for joining us today, everybody.
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We hope you join us next month
for the System 76 transmission log.
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And now we exit the spaceship.
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Wait, that was a crash.
Did we just blow up?
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Oh, I just meant...
We're fine.
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Okay.
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That was my door sound.
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That Okay, bye.
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3, 2, 1, 0, remember.
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This This has been the System
76 transmission log.
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For more inspiration, check out the
website and follow us on social media.
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On your descent back to Earth,
please keep your hands and feet
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inside the transport beam at all times.
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Captain sign off in transmission.
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3, 2, 1.
0.
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Welcome aboard the System
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76 transmission Log.
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76
computers, manufacturing, and pop OS.
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Now for your in-orbit crew.
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The marketing team did an escape room.
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We did do an escape room.
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And we escaped.
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I think they helped the sound of it.
Whatever.
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We escaped.
We got out of there.
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Our soul has escaped.
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Our bodies are actually
still trapped there.
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Yeah.
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It was really fun, though.
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It was a pirate-themed escape room.
Arr.
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Hi, everybody.
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Welcome to the The System 76
transmission Log podcast, where you get
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System 76 updates like hardware
news, software news, sale news.
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And just random nerdy stuff.
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We just finished wrapping
up our back to school sale.
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So all of you should be at school now.
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We had a little bout
of science during that.
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We ran an experiment with the desktop
accents because the Walnut wood accents
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have been our most popular, but
they're also the default configuration.
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I've had a question for a while now of,
were they the most popular just because
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they were the default, or how many people
getting these are actually
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wanting the Walnut versus another color?
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For the back to school sale,
we had some seasonal etched accents.
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There was one with the tux penguins,
one with some physics formulas, and one
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that was a DNA helix design.
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We left the helix on default.
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The The results of this experiment
are that the Walnut is still on top.
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People really love
the Walnut accent, Emma.
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That's pretty interesting.
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But I think we need a cosmic-themed one.
Yeah, for sure.
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I did love the Tux one, though.
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That was super cute.
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It was cool to see that
the Helix and the Tux accents
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were towards the top of the list.
Yeah, definitely.
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Speaking of cosmic, we
released the Alpha last month.
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Yeah, that was a big deal.
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The community had a lot of
positive things to say about it.
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Our latest blog highlights some of
the favorite quotes from the press
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and community coverage.
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My favorite quote was
from the Linux experiment.
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He said, The foundation seems very solid,
and I wouldn't be surprised if in a year
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or two, this thing was considered
the default desktop environment
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that you would recommend to anyone.
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We've been hearing a lot of similar things
from around the Linux community.
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There's a lot of excitement
around where this thing is going
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to where it's going to end up.
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We've been hearing about a lot
of cosmic spins on different distros.
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Fedora has one right now.
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Arch has a looser one.
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Opensuce, Serpent, Redox, Nix, Cashi.
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I've been hearing mint is on the way.
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But the question that's been ringing
in my head is, once Cosmic
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is officially released, are we
going to see it on a main Linux distro
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replacing what they currently have?
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Yeah, that'll be interesting to see.
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To celebrate in August, we flew in
a bunch of remote employees
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to System 76 HQ here in Denver.
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We immediately went to work on having fun,
doing some karaoke, some bowling.
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I think there was ping pong there, too.
And pool.
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Pool, lots of good food.
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The engineers had their own summit,
so there were a lot of updates shortly
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after the Alpha release as well.
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A lot of focus on and discussion
around accessibility.
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What's interesting, too, is Cosmic
and POP have come a really far way.
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When I started in 2018, being a Mac user
at the time, I was really happy
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to see that there was something
out there with the potential to be
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a true third option to Mac and Windows.
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With Cosmic, it feels like that's
closer than it's ever been.
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I showed the pre-alpha to a friend
shortly before the Alpha release.
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I was talking about the level
of customization in cosmic listing off.
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You can customize the panels,
you can customize this and that.
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He's like, Well,
my laptop can do that, too.
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Then I showed him the theming,
and quickly, he just
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got so much more interested.
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He was asking
for a Colorado Sunrise theme,
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and I had to make him Colorado Sunrise.
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He was asking for a sunny winter,
and I had to make him sunny winter.
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There was a penitentiary
one in there, too.
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I don't even know what that was.
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Very strange request,
but that's why we're friends.
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But it's just exciting to see that
even people He's a Windows user, so even
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people who don't really have Linux on
their radar are starting to show interest
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in it, and that's very exciting to me.
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You'll see that we released
an official, still work in progress,
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design system for Cosmic as well as
an app template and an applet template.
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And that will help people, even
though it's still an alpha,
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it'll help people develop for Cosmic
in a way that looks like Cosmic, ranging
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from the fonts used to the widgets
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used in certain circumstances.
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It's all right there for you
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Along with the Alpha, we launched
the Cosmic Ambassador program
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for contributors and promoters, which has
different levels to earn swag items.
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sharing links to cool themes
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to a calculator, a weather app, dozens of
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pull requests on GitHub, and bug reports.
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Just so many contributions have been
pouring in, and everything is welcome
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and encouraged, and we're super excited
to watch this program grow.
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So if you're out there sharing anything
about Cosmic, or if you're
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switching Switching people
to Cosmic, join the program,
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get free stuff, you might as well.
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We're also helping grow the community
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at the System 76 Factory.
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We're meeting all types of nerds
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of open source with our new friends.
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One of our most active groups,
though, is actually online.
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It's the online community
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It has Paul Arman as the administrator,
and they engage in dozens of
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helpful Linux conversations every week.
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Paul is so helpful just responding to
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to start talking about POP.
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on the POPOS Facebook group page.
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It's the Software Freedom
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Yeah, we're going to be
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It's going to be a really fun party
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That's just some extra fun for you.
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Even if you're not local to Denver,
you can host your own party through
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the Digital Freedom Foundation, which is
the global host of Software Freedom Day.
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They encourage people
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We're just continually excited to see
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people are excited as we are for things
like cosmic and excited to help.
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There's actually celebrations in Spain,
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locations, all listed on digitalfreedoms.
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If you're interested in throwing an event,
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and join the community
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Now, Emma, we have a special guest
for the podcast today, don't we?
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We do.
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We have a System 76 customer and fan,
Dave Shaver, who is an IT director
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at a local hospital and his local church.
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It's a cool name, and it's It's
a fascinating interview to listen to.
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So here we go.
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Thanks so much for joining us today, Dave.
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We really appreciate you coming
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Can you tell us a little bit
about yourself and what you do for work?
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Might take a minute.
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Officially, I'm the IT director here at
a small hospital in Northern New Mexico.
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I've actually worked
here for almost 28 years.
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I started off as a tech support guy
and then moved into systems
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administration And then a few years ago,
my boss left and I decided to take over.
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probably over five years now.
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just because we're a small facility
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and my CIS admin just left.
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But we're looking to hire,
but that's what I do all day.
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And also on the side, I run a web hosting
business and I do some websites.
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One of the customers
does a 20-page full-color so I do
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some graphic design work with that.
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And I'm also an associate pastor at
our church, where I do all the IT stuff
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there, and I'm in the band,
and a little bit of filmmaking.
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We do some promotional stuff
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worked on a full-length feature film.
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It was an indie film that was a few years
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a few opportunities to do a few things.
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So I'm engaged in a lot of graphic design
work and film stuff on the side.
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What programs are you
using for your graphic design?
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I was with Adobe for quite a while
until they changed their pricing.
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So I found replacement tools, some of them
open source and some of them not.
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Speaking of open source,
what has your Linux journey looked like?
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I've been around for a while.
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I actually heard of Linux way back
in the '90s, but I didn't really
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get a start until probably
2000, maybe a little bit after that.
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I actually purchased Red Hat
for like, $69, not knowing that
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I could get it for free.
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but started incorporating it
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into our environment just because
it was easy to set up and easy
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to manage and it was reliable.
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You just turned it on and let it run and
it ran for months or even years before
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you had to do restarts and so forth.
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like I do in a small hospital,
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found out that the licensing,
well, that's pretty convenient.
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some web servers and so forth.
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up a mail server using Zymbra and sentOS,
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and that thing lasted all these years
until just about a year ago.
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But we have a number of Linux servers
in operation today, several web
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servers, and of course, a lot
of appliances that are needed.
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So it's actually a significant portion
of what we have in our data center.
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Cool.
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And which system 76 laptop do you
have and what led to your decision
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to choose system 76 for a laptop?
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Well, actually, a few years
ago, I bought into Apple.
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I always avoided Apple.
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And then when I got into the music side
of things, I figured I needed Apple, just
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the latency and all that stuff.
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They have a lot of control
over the OS, and I don't.
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And so Linux just fits that bill.
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It gives me the freedom to do what I want.
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I can jump from distro to distro
Anyway, so I wanted to have a system
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that was dedicated to Linux that had
some power to it, but I didn't
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want to buy into the other big companies.
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So I started looking around and
came across both System 76 and Malibu.
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When I came back to System 76,
I did the same amount of research,
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and I was just impressed with everything
I saw, the attitude and the desire
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for freedom to repair and just
all the ideologies that System 76 had.
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So I wanted I also get a gaming system
because I do a little bit
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of that on the side.
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So I opted for the Adder, and
it's a pretty beefy machine, i9 with
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the 4060 card in there, and I like it.
I really do.
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It's got a lot of power.
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I have not put it through
its full paces yet.
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I do find it hard to find the time
to do all those things that I want
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to do with it, but I have plans,
so I'll be working on that.
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I have finally tested Shaders
in Minecraft using system, and it's cool.
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That's awesome.
I like it a lot.
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That's awesome.
Back to your workflow.
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I know you do a lot
of different things with tech
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since you're a smaller business,
but what does your day-to-day look like?
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One of our key goals here is just to keep
everybody working without disruption.
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They're taking care
of patients, and I appreciate
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when they're taking care of me.
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I know that I want to provide
that same level of support for our staff
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so that they take care of my family
as well as all the patients the same way.
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I think we have a good report here.
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So there's nothing
consistent about our day.
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We don't have a set plan.
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It's fly by the seat of our pants.
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into the servers and figuring out how
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to update them or how to replace them.
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And other times it's replacing a toner
and a printer, which isn't beautiful
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or exciting, but it's necessary.
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So this staff can keep working.
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So And how about at the church?
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What IT needs does the church need?
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Thankfully, not a ton
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We do have video surveillance.
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There's a lot of shenanigans
that go on around the building,
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but I've got the experience to know
how to run cable and do the installs,
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and so actually installed all of that.
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That's the big piece.
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We also do live streaming
of our Sunday service, so we have
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a system set up for that.
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I've used OBS Studio and Tricaster also.
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We have Tricaster live streaming system
set up here at the hospital.
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That's way too much machine for what
we really need, but it's pretty nice.
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We have a nice high-powered
workstation for that.
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And of course, the office computer
and we also have another computer
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for the overheads.
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So I have that all linked together
with various video cables, and we have
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a big TV and a projector so that we can
display all that information
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for everyone at the church
and also livestream it simultaneously.
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Also, then go and edit down the video
a little bit to post on YouTube.
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Because we broadcast our music,
we can't use Facebook or YouTube
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because of the licensing on that.
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So I go back in later,
edit that down, and then repost it.
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And just a few months ago, I
started translating it all into Spanish.
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So using some AI tools for that, Da
Vinci Resolve lets me export all the...
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Well, it does the description.
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So I get it in English, then I can
jump over to a website called narakeet.
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Com, and they will speak out
any language that you need.
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So it generates an audio file,
then I can overlay that over top
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of the video and post that.
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a lot more views on the Spanish feeds
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than we do on the English ones.
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So you've mentioned a couple
of the programs you've used.
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What are some of the key tools
and software you rely on daily?
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So the tools that I use,
I use Obsidian for notes.
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There's other note programs
out there, but I like Obsidian because
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it works across all platforms, so I can
put it on my iPad, take notes there.
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I can set it up on Linux
or Windows and have notes there.
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It organizes things for me.
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I was using Bitwarden.
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I use that in other places, but KeePass
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For browsing, I use Firefox,
brave, and Opera.
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I use those simultaneously because
it allows me to have multiple windows
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on screen and it allows me to be logged
in as administrator and as a user at
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the same time, instead of getting kicked
out of one if I'm using the same browser.
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Gimp and Inkscape, I use at work here.
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I don't have to Well, Affinity doesn't
work on Linux, so maybe someday.
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But GIMP and Inkscape work, I can
use those well enough to do the graphics
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that we need for the hospital.
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I use a bit of Midjourney for some of the
graphics that I create for our websites.
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We We have three websites, actually
four, an outside website that
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all the patients can see when
they want to find out about our hospital.
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We have a staff website that
staff members get, and then we have
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an IT one that just us IT guys use.
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I do a lot of graphics
and work with WordPress on that.
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Wordpress is another one
of those tools that I use.
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On the more nerdy side with the servers,
I've built both Apache and NGINX servers
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with MySQL and MariaDB,
and of course, WordPress.
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I used Drupal back in the day,
but I found WordPress, if you just
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need a website, boy, you can
fire up WordPress and be good to go.
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Drupal is a bit more of a deep
dive, and I haven't actually
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touched it for several years now.
Yeah.
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Just because of the
convenience of WordPress.
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I love WordPress.
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What do you think is the most significant
advantage of using Linux in your IT work?
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Well, probably one of the big advantages
is that I feel because I'm separated
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from the Windows environment, that
if something sweeps through the Windows
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systems, that I won't be affected.
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for some reason, that it
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won't immediately jump across.
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Most of the infection tools out there
are OS-specific and don't really have
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the ability to jump across that much.
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So that's one of the things
that I look at as a positive.
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I also like the ability that I have
to lock lock things down quite a bit.
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With all the security that
we have to deal with and the compliance
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and all those rules coming down,
I like that I can really tighten down
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my machine and make it pretty much
invisible to the rest of the network.
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run a virtual machine of windows
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if I need to do those things.
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virtual boxes network or whichever
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other virtualization tool I want to use,
I know that machine is somewhat
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protected as well from the network.
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So if anything ever happens,
I know that I can just sit down,
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fire up my machine, and I'll be ready
to handle anything that's necessary.
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We've always taken security seriously,
but it's really taking a front seat.
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It would be nice if we had somebody
dedicated specifically for security.
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I'm not a security guy, but I've been
thrust into that world, and it's just
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part of what we deal with day to day.
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And with the information
that we have in a hospital, we can't
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letting that information get out.
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So we do take it very seriously, and we've
made big strides over the last couple
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of years to improve our situation.
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Cool.
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Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Did you have anything else
you want to add about your journey
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and your experience with System 76?
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I'm sure I'll have more to say
in the months to come, but so far
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I'm enjoying it, and I'm looking
forward to really digging in there
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and trying some new things.
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Okay, that's awesome.
All right.
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Thank you.
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Okay, Alex, let's play a game.
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Are we playing a game?
I see a tin can.
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Yes.
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Inside this tin can is an object
that I took from System 76.
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It's smaller than this can, obviously.
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I'll give you one hint after I...
I'm going to shake it.
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Here, listen to this shake.
Okay.
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Now, the hint is the System 76 logo
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is printed on this item.
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Printed on this item.
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Is it the bottom panel
of a launch keyboard?
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That would be larger than a can.
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Let me try that again.
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Yeah, I don't think.
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It wasn't even a good guess, Alex.
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It's a very large can.
Okay.
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Do you need another shake?
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Yeah, let's do...
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Is it a coaster?
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No.
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That's your only guess.
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It is tricky.
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The Same thing I did that one other time.
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I was thinking you would think.
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It's a flash drive.
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It's a System 76 pop USB.
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All right.
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I was hoping it would
be my wildest dreams.
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Oh, well, I'd say good job,
but you didn't do a good job.
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Sorry.
I know.
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Thanks for joining us today, everybody.
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We hope you join us next month
for the System 76 transmission log.
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And now we exit the spaceship.
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Wait, that was a crash.
Did we just blow up?
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Oh, I just meant...
We're fine.
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Okay.
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That was my door sound.
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That Okay, bye.
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3, 2, 1, 0, remember.
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This This has been the System
76 transmission log.
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For more inspiration, check out the
website and follow us on social media.
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On your descent back to Earth,
please keep your hands and feet
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inside the transport beam at all times.
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Captain sign off in transmission.
