S04E09: The One Where Ruby Recycles

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This is editing kJ with a quick note that this
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episode was recorded before the WGA strike and the SIG
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after strikes were resolved, and in some cases, possibly before
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the strikes began. We're super happy to be back, so
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please enjoy this episode.
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Don't in the world. My name is Kag and you're
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listening to the Supernatural Opinions podcast where some things in
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this world are supernatural. My pronounce are Shibe, and this
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is the podcast where I talk to my fellow supernatural
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fans about Supernatural and we share our supernatural opinions. Today
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I've been enjoined by my guests Santa and Carly from
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Iley and the Impala. Carly, do you want to start off?
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I introduce yourself pronouns and how long you've been listening
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to Supernatural and how long you've been podcasting with Supernatural
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since that's the thing.
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That y'all do.
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Yeah, no problem, So I'm Karli. My pronouns are they?
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Then it's Did and caj here And as you know,
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we are pretty far behind on our recording to production schedule,
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so it's been almost a year since we recorded this episode.
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And throughout this episode we refer to Casey as Carly.
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Their name is Casey things huge time has passed, but
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please know we do mean Casey, and go forth and
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enjoy this episode with that knowledge.
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I run the I don't run shit, but I co
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host The Idle and the Impala podcast with Sandra. We've
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been podcasting for about eighteen months nineteen months now, and
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I've been watching Supernatural since maybe like twenty nineteen, so
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I've seen the whole show. We've seen right to the
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end and stuff. I'm in the middle of a rewatch,
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but yeah, it's I'm still relative the new in terms
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of people I've been watching since like oh five.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Yeah. I also to start in five because I was
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not old enough, so.
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Yeah, I was like thirteen in oh no falseen I
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would have been foulteen and O five. And also I'm
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I'm in the UK. We had get Supernatural until like years.
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Yeah, you know you had to wait.
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For it to be distributed internationals.
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Yeah, and then it was on like one channel, like one.
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I am like, it was not accessible, Sandra, how about you?
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Well, I feel ancient now. But yeah, my name's Sandra.
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I go by she Her. I'm a fanfic writer for
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Supernatural and co host and co creator of Idoling Indian
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Pala podcast. We talk about supernatural and fan fiction and
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you know, all of those great things to kind of
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coincide with just supernatural in general. If we can think
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about it and it relates, we try to do an
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episode about it. And I've been watching since about like
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early twenty nineteen, so I'm one of the late the
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late to the game watchers. And then really kind of
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just yeah, before the end, it was literally like just
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I think right around the time when I had heard
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that they were going to be starting their final season
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and had never really like I just didn't know anything
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about the show. So it was just kind of like, oh,
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saw this thing on so this thing on Netflix. I
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don't know if I should let Carly say this part
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of it because they love to say this part of it.
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But anyway, how I how I started watching Supernatural was
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because of Jared and seeing seeing him on the Netflix
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screen and knowing that he was on Gilmore Girls, which
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I had also ended up. You know, I'd watched it
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on Netflix and they do those recommendations enjoying it. Yeah,
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and so but then as time went on watching the show,
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it probably took go ahead, I'll let you. I'll let
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you do this part go ahead.
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No no, I was gonna let you go. But if
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you could have fludge the details, I'm.
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No, no, no, no no no.
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Last time, I'd rather time went on. Yeah, I'm clean.
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What she means is she made it all the way.
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Season six had I do believe the best one we've
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ever seen.
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And then no, no, no, no, no.
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Off And that's the same hastyle for fifteen seasons. That's
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my guy. And I'm like, you could abandoned yard and
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some at any point, but that's the point you pick what.
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I think this episode actually on Pink Jared, Yeah, no.
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I I I I definitely agree with that.
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No.
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I think the great thing about our podcast too is
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that I'm very Dean heavy. Carly is very Sam heavy.
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So I think you know what kind of bring Yeah,
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we we they keep me accountable, you know, and it's
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not a bad deed all the time. But yeah, And
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I think the main thing too was I had seen
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a lot of different I see, like a podcast that
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did destil pod picking, and I just kind of was like, well,
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because I'm a Dean slash you know, me like Dean
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Slash Reader, Dean Slash original female character primarily, it's like,
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that's that's my jam. And I was kind of like,
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and I was kind of like, you know, it would
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be nice to get a chance to kind of like
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maybe talk of buying that little niche about that. But
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then call I said, well, it can't just be all
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about Dean. They're like, I'm gonna I'm going to join
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you and make sure that you know they stay valid.
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What do you accountable?
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So that's where we are now. Yeah, that's where we
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are now.
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I actually forgot to add in my introduction as well.
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I also write found fic. I'm consuming floraciously. And I
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started off writing sam Rida stuff like Sandra writestein reader well,
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and then you see there's not that much some and
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Dean rita insert so you know, if you can't find it,
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create it. So I started writing it and then I
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was like, yeah, I'm too far into the windsest camp
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keep writing this boring heterosexual stuff. And then I fully
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jumped you, so insting, we don't get a.
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Lot of winter thick writers on the show, so I'm
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very excited to be here. Yeah, well, you are like
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out of stuff and you'all are gonna have to drop
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your your A three okay, other the candles for people?
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Absolutely, which what are you going to pick? Sodra, I'm
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going to tell I'm going to explain both of them
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for the ones that I think are relevant. So I'm
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writing them down right now, so I remember.
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I mean, I'm definitely gonna go at least check out
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the reader insert and stuff.
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Okay, okay, at the very least. Yeah, it's Sam. How
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could you not?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, absolutely, Anyway back.
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To what we're actually doing here. I mean, I'm here
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for a long intro. When it's that good, it's got
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that much content, you know, it's worth it's worth taking
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the time for it. But we're actually going to recap
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season fours nine I Don't Eat Did Last Summer, which
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originally aired on November thirteenth, two thousand and eight.
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Back in the day. It's been a minute, been a minute.
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November is my favorite months.
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This is the month that my birthday is in, so, like,
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I don't know, like November is just feel extra special
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for me.
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It falls a nice time of year, falls a nice
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time of the year too.
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Yeah, and like thirteen, it's a good number for me.
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I like thirteen.
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It's all coming okay, yea.
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That title is a reference to the nineteen ninety seven
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movie I Know What You Did last summer with the
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Truly Started Cast. I don't like horror movies at all.
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I might go back and watch this one at some
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point because it's like your classic band movie.
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But it's so.
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Jennifer love you It, Sarah, Michelle Geller, Ryan Philippie, and
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Freddie Prince Junior. That's a pore four I would watch.
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Oh, Ryan, Ryan philipp is actually from Delaware, which is
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my state. So fun fact there, I thought I would.
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I would toss that in there. So have you not
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watched that movie?
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I have not watched some movie. I don't like horror
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movies at all.
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It's not really horror movie. I mean, I'm not a
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horror movie person either, and I really wouldn't say it's super.
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It sounds like it's kind of more in like the
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campy one.
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Yeah, it is more fancy.
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That might be for me. It sounds met campy, and
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I'm into things. I'm into all things camp at the
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moment I Meandelle descended, so that's where my brain sad.
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But basically, yeah, it's like one of those like they
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ran over our Fisherman who comes back and killed me
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a year later. It's based off of a novel from
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nine seventy three. I mean they might have named this
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episode after the novel, but like we already know that,
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Like these writers love Jennifer love Hewitts, so probably not.
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It's probably the movie.
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Okay, Okay, Jennifer.
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Love Hewitt's come up before.
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Yeah, I'm trying to oh, is it like I think
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it's an.
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Asylum in season one? Okay, there's definitely a ghost Whisper reference.
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Yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, there's a ghost whisper. Yeah, Okay,
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for sure.
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And I feel like maybe some other references and like
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these people love Buffy too, Like there aren't usually Buffy
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specific references, but like I I watched Buffy but their
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sign like two years ago, three years ago, and I
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was like, as I was watching, I was like, oh, dang,
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they were just like borrowing stuff left right.
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It's been a while since I watched Buffy, but yeah,
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I did definitely get the same kind of vibes watching
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watching Supernatural, like you know, feeling alive.
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I recommend Rewatch to get now that you've seen super Nical.
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Okay, okay, to like really.
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Get like like, oh yeah, Supernatural is just borrowing shit.
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I've heard there's a lot of parallels between like Buffy
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and Dean, so I think that that's the thing that
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I have to kind of like pay attention to if
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I watch again. Okay, I agree, Okay.
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But yeah, this makes episode books. This episode reference previous episodes,
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but we'll not hanes closed for later episodes of Supernatural.
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It's gonna be hard this one because it's like part
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one of a two parter, but we're gonna do our best.
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I I have some extra.
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I'm gonna tape was on his mouth and be like, no,
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not the next episode, just as one.
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But yeah, this episode was written by Sarah Gamble and
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directed by Charles Beeson. I don't think we need to
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talk about Sarah Gamble ex episode her previous episode with
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season four ups the two Are you there?
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God?
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It's Madine Winchester And there's like a really blatant reference
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to that episode in this episode. And then Charles Beson
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was also not a stranger to us and has only
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not been here for like one episode because he was
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last directing on season four episode seven. Is the Great
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Pumpkins Fan Winchester interesting both their Like last things are
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the episode titles that have the Winchester brothers' names, Yeah,
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because not a lot of them do, but like, and
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that was a new thing in season four to have
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as well, because like before now it's been like whatever,
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the thing that they're referencing is the title, and like
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they haven't really changed the titles to make them fit really,
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but as.
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Fun they did.
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Yeah. Yeah, And I also was going to say, like
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Charles Beaston in particular, because I you know, I did
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a little bit of research too, but I had found
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out that he directed a couple of shows that air
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Kripke had also created and produced sort of after Supernatural,
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so it was like Revolution and Timeless. He'd done some
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episodes for that, and I think he's directed two of
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the funniest episodes that Supernatural has ever done, but we
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won't find out about those until later.
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So episode rating.
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Who wants to write this episode?
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First?
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Usually I throw it to Meredith, but I feel like
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Meredith hasn't thought about it.
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No, I've had an interesting morning. Let's start with.
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This episode. I have five ten out of stars and
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donuts whatever makes you happy.
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I gave it eight eight out of ten. French Fries.
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I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I gave
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that Carly.
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I'm going to go ahead and give it like twelve
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out of ten. What sum because I just like what
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this is on. I'm like, I didn't chat, but I'm
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pretty sure this episode made like my top ten of
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seasons one to five. Oh my good, it's a favor
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of mine.
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I also gave it an eight out of ten. I
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think it's mostly set up for the next episode, but
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I really like it. Like, there's nothing in this episode
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that I'm like, I'm not enjoying this in some passion.
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There's some things that I find slightly uncomfortable, but like
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they're uncomfortable because I of me, like they're me things.
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They're not like show its Uh, we're going to get
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to it. Total duthcout. I was actually not super sure
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how to count this duff count. Sorry, Magic, Did you
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want to throw a rating in the ring?
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Yeah, I just want to do it out to everyone else.
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I was going to give it like an eight because
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I did I like this episode two. I just hesitate
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to call any episode of any show perfect. Yeah, that's
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fir fel.
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I've had episodes I've enjoyed even more than this, but
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like this is this is I enjoyable.
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I had a good time watching.
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This month, which isn't always the case even when the
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episodes are good. Yeah, they could be like good in
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like a lot of ways, but like I don't always
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enjoy them. But like this one was, Like it was
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fast paced, it kept things moving.
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And I thought there was a lot of really pretty
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imagery in this episode too. Yeah, it was very well directed.
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Yeah, Sam's eyes were really pretty to do.
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That well, but actually, sorry, no, I I went to
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looked up and it meant it was my number two
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top episode of like seasons one to five, and it
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was my number three definitive top ten, So I think.
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That's so interesting. I don't know if I have my
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notes up, but we did a bunch of like bonus
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content for Driver Picks, the podcast when they were finishing
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season five. They did a bunch of like bonus episodes,
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and like I had a list of like my like
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top and least five from the Cryptier.
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Okay, I don't think this one we need either of
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those lists.
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I think it's in the middle, but it's still good.
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We've done four different talk about episodes now, yeah, and
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eleven to fifteen and then need to.
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Tell you it's like divide them.
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Yeah, I like them.
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Yeah, but yeah, death count.
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This week, I was I had some conflict, but I
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think it landed on five deaths. Bring our on screen
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total to two hundred and eighty eight and the on
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an off screen total to d and thirty seven plus. Wow.
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Yeah, I love I always love it when people who
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are new to the podcast react to the total count
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or people haven't been.
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Here in a minute, I know.
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Yeah, we're getting get to the point where like a
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lot more people who get possessed are getting killed, and
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it's hard to know.
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You got to really pay attention to be like are
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they dead? Are they alive?
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What's happening with the vessels?
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Yeah? So were you counting to demons like the demon?
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Like that was, don't.
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Count the demon.
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It's if the vessel lives or if the vessel dies.
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So if the person lives or dies, so like if
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it's because I have a very case by case basis
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because Sam's thing is like fifty to fifty and the
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demon knife is like a mostly a death sentence, but
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sometimes they'll pull out nexticism and that's usually okay, depending
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on how good of a condition.
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The body's it, it's it's gotten.
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It's getting very complicated at the point this season, like
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Sam's thing is.
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Really fifty to fifteen.
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You got to really pay attention to what happens after
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Sam's done his thing. Like this week we're also kenning
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angelic deaths like separately on the side, just to see
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like how many angels are, because like angels have like
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really like done like you know a lot of behind
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this scene shit, but like haven't really been in too
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much trouble until the Winchesters popped into their lives like
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full time, and like now they're just kind of like dropping.
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But so far this week is yeah, no, no.
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Members of the Heavenly Hosts that we're aware of I
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have died, although we did hear that they're losing the apocalypse,
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so we should be prepared in the coming episodes to
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get some numbers. Cast wasn't here long enough to give
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us a status report, but would be really helpful to
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me personally if they asked casts directly.
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Everyone once in a while, Penny, can we have a
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fig up place?
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Yeah, this is gonna be a much easier stat to upkeep.
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It's become very difficult, but we're going to get into
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the recap, and yeah, Santra Carley haven't really been here before,
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but like just feel free to like pop in with
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your thoughts as I'm going otherwise I will keep talking.
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We start with Anna, who's in the Connor Bepperly Behavioral
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Medicine Center and she's trying to warm people about something.
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I've never been an Anna fan, but August for saving
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people if anythings, loves Anna, so I love August.
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So I'm going into this episode with a new.
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Appreciation for Anna. And I will admit that Julie mc
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nevin is absolutely corgeous, no doubts about that.
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But I actually used her face as a model for
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one of the character drawings. She's kind of gorgeous. I
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love her face.
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It's so pretty, And I'm going to try to appreciate.
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Her character any more this time around. That's kind of
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like my goal.
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Like I feel like I didn't appreciate Bella before, and
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then like we didn't watching a season like Fella appreciating
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her or Bella ended up being one of my favorite
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characters in season three. This time around, I'm here to
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appreciate Anna this.
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Time had such a big crush on Bella from this one.
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Yeah, Anna place at the end is coming the apocalypse,
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and her feel is basically what we know the sixty
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six seals with Lucifer every cast to ol Lash slash
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Gene in previous episodes. But Anna somehow knows it but
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she shouldn't. Anna like zones out a little bit here
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or something that like other people can't hear. And she
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confirms to her psychiatrists that there are like six hundred
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deals and only sixty six of them need to be
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broken and there's no way of knowing which ones they'll break,
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and the angels are losing and everyone's gonna die, which is,
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you know, great news, We're doing great.
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I had a small issue with this scene though, but
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I never clocked any of the other times I've watched this.
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It's a bit. I think it's the way it starts off,
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you know, she's kind of like just vacantly staring off.
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Yeah, and then she's like really coherent suddenly.
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Yeah, but it's it's that vacant stat and then the
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way she like cocks her head and stairs up again
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when she's listening is I don't know, it just it
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feels like all the really gross stereotypes like drooling, mental pace.
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I don't know. Yeah, I tried really hard when I
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was watching it to be like, you don't need to
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know that down, you don't need to know that down,
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And then I was like, notes dumb because it makes
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me feel some kind of why The second.
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When she's listening, like in the middle of their conversation,
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isn't so bad, But the opening one is very much
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like she looks like she's like drugged up. Fine, yeah,
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she looks like she's yeah, she's on too many antipsychotics,
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and she like it looks like she can barely keep
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her eyes up. It is. It is a little bit much.
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I agree.
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Yeah, the second one's better because they clearly like she's
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hearing something that other people can't hear, like she's listening
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versus being like zomked out like she isn't the opening shot.
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Yeah, I agree, I agree.
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Yeah, not a great look. The show is chronically in
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two thousands in so many ways. Yeah, this season's been better.
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Season three was very chronically like two thousand and seven.
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Season four has been better, but it can still have
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its moments that I should have maybe considered an h ball,
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but hard to tell. It's it's hard to look back
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on something with a twenty twenty three lines sometimes like yeah,
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and also so, yeah, wasn't that long ago, but like,
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in many ways it.
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Was a long time ago.
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It also seems a bit much to ask Supernatural to
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not be on or.
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Handle anything sensitively. That's true. A nurse comes in to
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give Anna meds. I'm assuming this.
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Is supposed to be a nurse because.
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Like, you know, I don't want to be like, oh,
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like boys can't be.
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Nurses, because that's just incorrect. But also like he doesn't
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feel like he's got medical knowledge, like not thinking about
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his portrayal of his characters giving me medical knowledge vibes,
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but like he has to be a nurse because like
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a nurse or a doctor would bring meds, and like
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it wouldn't be like a PSW or anything like that.
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Like anyway, it's not important. But this nurse is like
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a big guy and he comes in to give Anna
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meds and she freaks out because he's actually a demon
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and she can tell by his face, which is kind
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of like what Dean could do when he was like
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coming up on the end of his demon deal at
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the end of season three. And then she does a
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very sam like telekinesis with the dresser to like knock him.
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Out and escape.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think he had a lot of like
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Psycho kid by It's like you're supposed to get off,
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yeah and then yeah, but they could.
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Be because in this episode, actually don't find out what it is.
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You just know annas like weird.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Salm and Dean.
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Are hustling at Fool and like I put hustling in
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all caps stands pretending to be absolutely hammered. And he's
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lost two games, and so he's supposed to like fight
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a big amount of like five hundred dollars and then
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turn around on the third game and be stone cold silver.
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But he sees Ruby at the bar and.
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He just abandons the game and loses their five hundred bucks.
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And not only did he not make money, Hello, they're
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now seven hundred dollars in the two previous games were
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one hundred dollars each.
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Yeah, I have notes of this one. I have notes.
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He is an absolute baby. He's a baby when he's drunk,
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and he's a baby when he's fake drunk as well.
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He's just the cutest little dummy.
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Really good fake drunk. He was very cute.
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Yes, his bugs in that scene, just in that one scene,
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because that dodge in quite a lot of this is
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this episode, but in that one scene, top notch bugs.
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But also when he like top right, when he makes
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the break and he's still kind of pending some drunk
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and he gets outerly like dope, you smile like, oh
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did I do something good?
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I'm like, fucking baby, this is not.
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A treat for me to have like a Sam, A
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fellow Sam stand here to like appreciate.
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This is very good for me.
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This is very good for my energy.
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Good.
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I have lots of notes on so.
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Good time fellow, like other passive future guests take notes.
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This is the energy I want around Sam.
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Yes, he's baby.
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I know the scene.
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It's your babies, but Sam's mine.
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Just seeing them together like hustling, and I like that
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way that Sam and Dean we we're talking together without
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talking like yeah, I like that.
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Yeah, remember how post hustling Sam was like the one
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he's fully participating. This is only Sam hustling in this episode.
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Like Sam is doing the hustling.
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He's doing well.
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And they actually you have not scene really surprised me
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that Sam like walks off, and Dean doesn't just like
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pick up the money. He just picks me bounds his
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brother and I'm like, just take.
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Sam says keeps the money, and he just keep the
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money that yeah, it doesn't take the money. I think
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this is so dangerous, Like thank god Samjan are both
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huge dudes, because like this is so dangerous, like that
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you're so viable to get beat to ship for doing
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something like this, Like is so is another big guy too,
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and like you're you're intentionally tricking them. They're gonna know
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that you tricked them on purpose that they got so
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they're gonna be pissed about it.
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Honestly, their confidence is probably partly due to the fact
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that they're big guys.
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Yeah, like yeah, two women couldn't pull this off.
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00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.200
This is not this would not work Like this dude
492
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.200
would like permit a serious crime violence against women if
493
00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.559
two girls tried to pull the same scheme. Like they're
494
00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.279
just like yeah, very privileged and they're of large man game.
495
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:53.160
It do help to have like a six fool five
496
00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:57.000
brother that you just be like about this though, Yeah.
497
00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.119
And like there's two of them, so like this dude
498
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.960
like gets his like they're gonna and like they're also
499
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.440
good fighters. I mean, you can't really know that until
500
00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.039
you fight one of them, but like you can just
501
00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.160
be like, oh, they're large, even if they aren't very
502
00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:11.640
skilled at fighting. Like if they hit you or shove
503
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.480
you or like throw you, it's going to hurt. But yeah,
504
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.880
Sam abandons the game, and Dean is even more unhappy
505
00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:20.799
that the game's been abandoned by the fact that it's
506
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:22.039
been abandoned because Ruby's here.
507
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:23.359
He's not happy to see her.
508
00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:27.839
So much.
509
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:29.319
I hate each other so much.
510
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.359
Love their dynamic. I want to see that more.
511
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:33.400
I mean, the last time that he saw Ruby was
512
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.720
when he found out that Sam was doing his psychic powers,
513
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.400
so like they haven't seen each other since then, so
514
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.799
it's not a happy readion No, but she is here
515
00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:41.880
to be like, hey, all of the demons are looking
516
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.559
for this Anna Milton chick and like they want her alive.
517
00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.079
So like whatever her deal is.
518
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:48.839
Is, uh, it's a big deal and you should probably
519
00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:50.319
find her before the demons do.
520
00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:52.480
And I wish Dean was more thrilled.
521
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.359
I get why he's not thrilled to like do something
522
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:56.119
that Ruby wants to do, but like we're assuming this
523
00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:58.640
girl is a human and like demons are looking for
524
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:00.599
or so, like maybe we should just fight her anyways,
525
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:05.440
regardless of where the information came from.
526
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.799
Dean would be like, I will sacrifice at least five
527
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.839
human girls to fuck this bitch over. She's like, Vive
528
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:13.720
is probably the limit, but he's like, no, I will
529
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.640
ignore at least five women before I will let.
530
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:18.519
Usually.
531
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.599
That's also they're pretty quick to help Eddie humans regardless
532
00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:24.799
of what of the ship's going on.
533
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:25.920
But Ruby can't come.
534
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:31.680
She's just here to provide them information.
535
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:33.920
That's it. She can hitchhike Jean.
536
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.920
They're like, really, they're in the car and Sam's confirmed
537
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.000
that An as a real person. She did go missing
538
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.440
from the same hospital that Ruby said. And Deane's like
539
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.400
really pissed now that Sam and Ruby are having like
540
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:49.279
buddy buddy vibes, like they're friendly and Sam trusts her,
541
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.279
he didn't like it, and he like demands some details,
542
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.240
and Sam just stuffed back with like he'll share his
543
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:57.000
stuff when Jane comes clean about hell. I love you, Sam,
544
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.359
I love you so much, but like you don't know
545
00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:01.200
what happened to do how you just know it must
546
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.599
be really really bad, And like Dean said, the last
547
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.319
episode earlier, it was that like it's something that like
548
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:09.400
talking about will not fix, and it's something that is
549
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.079
going to live in his head forever. And I'm like cold,
550
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:13.119
just like not force him.
551
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:17.079
Though it's there's a difference, like it's a traumatic experience
552
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:20.160
versus doing the demon.
553
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.920
Yeah, we're gonna find out that, Like Sam, Sam's trauma
554
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:25.119
is pretty intense from when Dean died.
555
00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:26.559
But like let's not like.
556
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.359
Be like, oh, I'm not going to share my trauma
557
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.400
until you share your trauma. Like let's not like let's
558
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.000
not put conditions on each other sharing their traumas.
559
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.680
Yes, but then they wouldn't be we need therapy. Yeah,
560
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.240
you know, like that's the whole thing. But also it's
561
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:42.319
as like as that line is, some has the best
562
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:46.440
brooding face in the car. Oh yeah, all mood and
563
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:47.720
jawlined and stuff.
564
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.440
Right, Yeah, he has it brooded really hard because even
565
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.400
though he's not going to share his trauma Dean, we're
566
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.039
going to find out about it as the audience anyways,
567
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.079
like we don't we don't get the option. We are
568
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.599
definitely finding out about it, whether Sam wants us to
569
00:24:59.759 --> 00:24:59.960
or not.
570
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.079
So you're brooded so hard that all of your experiences,
571
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:05.519
like make their way to the screen.
572
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.720
You caused the flash, cause the flashback for other people
573
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:10.519
to witness.
574
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:13.000
It's like, he can't know, but you can. Why're going
575
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:13.519
to go back.
576
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.240
Six months just because there's sexy Sam's We're not there yet,
577
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.160
We're gonna get there. Sam's in his brown car jacket,
578
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:21.279
which I love this jacket.
579
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.279
I actually looked at purchasing his jacket. It's my favorite
580
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:24.960
Sam jacket.
581
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.039
It's like early Seeds, the Sam Exclusive. He's at the crossroads.
582
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.000
He's crying as he digs up the road with his
583
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.720
bare hands. Pro tip by nature, roads are going to
584
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.720
be pretty hard packed us a shovel back.
585
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:39.519
So he deserves this. Also, he clearly.
586
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.640
Has a shovel because this is supposed to be immediately
587
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.720
after Sam has buried.
588
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.599
Dean and he has the car and he has other stuff.
589
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.400
Yeah, they're at the gas station I think is the
590
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.920
same gas station for four o one. So like theoretically
591
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.400
Sam's just buried deep. He didn't dig that whole grade
592
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:54.319
with his hands.
593
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.400
He has a shovel. I think he's just being a
594
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:57.119
little dramatic.
595
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:01.319
He has anything. Some just knows how to be. It
596
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:03.160
is a fucking drama.
597
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:09.880
He's like, yeah, absolutely the most dramatic SAMs been so hard.
598
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:11.039
You forgot you on a show.
599
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.359
Maybe our first male presenting cross Roads demon, so that's fun.
600
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.839
We haven't had a dude show up at a crossroads before.
601
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.640
Do you think they said Do you think they said, no,
602
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.480
no women, bring makes make sure there's a guy this time,
603
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:25.839
like for any particular reason.
604
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.680
I mean, I feel like they just used the opportunity
605
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.319
because they didn't have to kiss anybody.
606
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.880
Yeah, that's true, that stop more.
607
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.839
But I feel like, you know, like Jensen and Jared
608
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.400
might have a more specific contract about that.
609
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:43.279
Yeah, well, liked would have exploded.
610
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:44.200
Yeah.
611
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.160
I just feel like, you know, like every other time
612
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.400
we've had a cross their demon show up, like we
613
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.079
have had like these like gorgeous, like dark haired women, Like.
614
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:54.799
Maybe they just wanted to fix up. Maybe.
615
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.119
I think maybe what happened was they were starting to
616
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.960
plan out some other characters that were coming down the yeah,
617
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.119
and they're like, hey, we need to introduce that demons
618
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.960
can be in dudes as well. We have we ever
619
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.240
see demons in dudes is when they're like the kind
620
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.240
of demons that like, yeah, throw the winchesters around or
621
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:13.160
like eat babies and shit like that. We never see
622
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.240
them doing these like crossroady type jobs. I think they
623
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.279
want to estatish that aspect of demons a little bit more.
624
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.720
Yeah, yeah, dudes can do this too. It's not all
625
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.279
about women. And if you look at like demon mythology,
626
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.160
they are very good at talking to people and manipulating them.
627
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.720
So it's good to introduce the fact that men are
628
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:32.559
able to do that.
629
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.240
Too, especially because they didn't have to like negotiate in
630
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.319
like how comfortable Jared was going to be doing a
631
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.160
kiss because they didn't have to do that for this
632
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.200
Crossroad demon interaction, so like it's a good opportunity to
633
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.839
do it. I guess, yeah, M not that I think
634
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:45.799
that was right, So I don't.
635
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.039
But this actually, this Crossroads team is I didn't christen
636
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:53.799
it domb voice them until later on in the show,
637
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.839
but I think the only time it happens before this
638
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.759
episode is when he's yelling at John like way back
639
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.279
in season one. But it's it's when Jared shouts, but
640
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.960
he's like shouting for real, not like acting shouting, and
641
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.920
right down in his chest and it's Yeah, the latest season.
642
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.359
I appreciate your appreciation of this. Yeah, well I appreciate
643
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:21.240
what I appreciate with Sam. Is I like my Sam
644
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.759
like a little bit like fuck the demon.
645
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.319
The demon pointed out that Sam's not looking hot, except
646
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:27.759
Sam is looking very hot.
647
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.559
It's like, I'm not gonna trust your standards. Okay, you're
648
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:31.759
a demon. He does look.
649
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.759
Does he look intoxicated, Yes, but he's great, got the
650
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.200
full crazy eyes, the way he like does this big,
651
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.440
like dramatic shrug. Yeah that's my that's my Sam.
652
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.319
He's intoxicated, but he also looks intoxicated and.
653
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.480
Like the way he pulls out the demon life like
654
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.559
this is the best dam suck all season.
655
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:49.240
For sure.
656
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.160
It's a good look. I like him when he's just
657
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.599
a little bit it's a little bit crazy, not like fully,
658
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.480
not like falls to the wall crazy, but just like
659
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.319
a little bit wild behind the eyes.
660
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.440
Yeah, yeah, I enjoy that for so many time.
661
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.000
I like Sam when he's a little bit crazy, and
662
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.119
I like Sam when he's on a redemption arc from
663
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.240
being a little bit crazy. So like those two things
664
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:10.519
just really bashful together.
665
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.240
Yeah, like we gotta we gotta like ration the crazy
666
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.079
because ye keep doing it, then you can't be too crazy.
667
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.039
It's not as it's not as potent.
668
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.440
Yeah, we don't want to do anything too unredeemable because
669
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.160
I am here for a redemption arc. But the Damon says,
670
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.960
like Sam, like isn't going to be able to make
671
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.319
a deal. It's not gonna happen. So Sam stamps him
672
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:31.279
in the back of the hand and demands to trade
673
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.599
places with Dean. He doesn't want anything or any time
674
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.400
in exchange, which is really interesting because Sam is now
675
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:39.759
the only Winchester who hasn't made a demon deal, Like,
676
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.319
because we've now learned that Mary made a demon deal
677
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.319
and got ten years to save John.
678
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.319
John made a deal to save Dean and got a day.
679
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.240
Dean made a.
680
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.240
Deal to save Sam and got a year, and like
681
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:51.920
Sam's like, I don't want any of that. I just
682
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.880
want to die and have Dan be alive.
683
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.799
But he's enough. Yeah, he's the only one who hasn't
684
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.200
made a demon deal, not for lack of trying, clearly,
685
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.759
but so Steepens are like, well, maybe even no.
686
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.319
But the demon says that Deans in hell, which is
687
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.519
exactly where they want him, and like they've got plans
688
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.680
for both the Winchesters basically, and then the flashback ends
689
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.160
and Sam's about to say something to Dean and the
690
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.880
changes his mind and then they're just in very loud,
691
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.839
angry silence, like Sam was about to maybe start to
692
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:24.240
share a Dean and then he changed his mind, and
693
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:28.400
it's just awkward inly, very awkwardly loud. There aren't a
694
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:30.519
lot of Impala scenes where they aren't talking and there
695
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.720
isn't music, so like for them to just be sitting
696
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.160
and like have this like actual just like the Sam
697
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.240
with the Impala and nothing else, very good work.
698
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.880
I'm just going to turn on music because is getting awkward.
699
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.559
They get to.
700
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.440
The They get to the hospital and they're talking to Anna, psychiatrist,
701
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.680
and she's been diagnosed with schizophrenia due to the religious
702
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.319
nature of her delusions. It's a pretty common symptom for
703
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.119
people who develop schizophrenia suddenly in the seven in their
704
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.839
twenties is to like have like a religious aspect of
705
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.319
their delusions. I'm not qualified to diagnose anybody, but if
706
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.200
someone was like reading me off a list of Timson
707
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:06.160
I had Anna in front of me, like I would
708
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.720
probably be like, yeah, that's that sounds like schizophrenia.
709
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.319
Yeah the tracks, Yeah, the tracks.
710
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.279
I get. I get how the doctors got there, because
711
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.640
you know, there's no way that they could have just
712
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.279
assumed that, of course this girl was hearing actual angels.
713
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.160
It's not a thing that doctors ever assume.
714
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.279
You're like a special doctor.
715
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.319
Yeah, these doctors have no way of knowing angels exist.
716
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.720
But one of the pages and Anna's.
717
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.000
Journal is or like sketchbook or whatever, reads the I
718
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.720
think of the witnesses, and then another one says sam Hayne.
719
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.839
The next seal is broken, and the picture with the
720
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.200
rising of the witnesses is one of Bobby's like nightmare
721
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.640
twin girls. And then the one on the like sam
722
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.799
Hayne page is the witch guy that sam Hayne was
723
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:46.799
wearing as a vessel.
724
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.119
Okay, so one of my one of my favorite like
725
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.440
random tropes that like no one ever talks about is
726
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.279
just people randomly being really really good at drawing.
727
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.880
Yeah, we don't know what Anna's drawing skills were before this,
728
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.079
but she is certainly a good draw now.
729
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:02.920
She really captured.
730
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.000
He could tell that that is sam Hayne, like the
731
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:06.759
actor that they had play Sam Hayne.
732
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.519
Yeah, I see it on so many TV shows, like
733
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.519
someone is really good at art and no one of
734
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.680
her comments on it. It's just hilarious to me, like
735
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.400
as as.
736
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.359
Sam's able to identify a very specific window and everything
737
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.960
from this drug. But that definitely I mean that Anna
738
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.559
knows some ship like whatever is going on with Hannah,
739
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.599
wherever she's at, whatever is happening to her, Like whatever
740
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.680
she knows is real, Like she's like because she wasn't
741
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.480
there for the Sam Hayne thing. She wasn't there I
742
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.799
Bobby's for this small child ghost thing that Sam and Dean.
743
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:38.559
Barely even saw.
744
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.359
Yeah, I think Sam saw them. I don't even know
745
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.960
if Dean actually saw those girls. I can't remember. I
746
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.519
felt I think they did because I think the girls
747
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.519
were like the biggest they showed up the final fight
748
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.400
that all three of them.
749
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:51.920
Were in Shining Twins.
750
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.400
Yeah, but yeah, obviously they know that she wasn't there,
751
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.720
so like for her to know these things is not
752
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.960
a good sign. So they go to the Milton residence,
753
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.720
which I will say, the Miltons have like a really nice,
754
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.079
like little like painted sign on their house that like
755
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:07.640
I wouldn't. I don't know if that was to indicate
756
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.599
Anna's like always been artsy or like like my Grandma Pain.
757
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:11.079
And stuff like that.
758
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.039
But unfortunately, Anna's parents have both been horrifically murdered and
759
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.079
there's sulfur laftine, so we're assuming that it's demons that
760
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.960
murdered Anna's parents, So we got.
761
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.400
Here a little late. Unfortunately.
762
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.200
You would think, though, you would think that as two
763
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.920
people who deal with demons and sulfur on the regular
764
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.039
soul would need would not need to put that up
765
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.000
his fucking notes.
766
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.799
Maybe that's his other endiction time.
767
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.200
I forgot this for the future of spoilers when we
768
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:41.680
know what's up with Sam, but I did like go
769
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.799
back and check and see, like what Sam, If Sam
770
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.559
I could, I was like, did he put his finger
771
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:46.160
in the sulfur?
772
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.720
And he put his finger on? Because I was like, no,
773
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.640
it's self.
774
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.759
Yeah, it's literally like his his fingers like a centimeter
775
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.400
from his notes, Like he's gonna.
776
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.400
Snort it like cocaine off his pinky finger.
777
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.599
Like yeah, yeah, I feel like you need to get
778
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.480
that clothes bomb it raked, Yeah.
779
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.240
Yeah what he needs this emotionally.
780
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.079
And again we ask where does the sulfur come from?
781
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.199
With the demons, so where is it coming from?
782
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.880
They're sprinkling it like seasoning. I think that was the
783
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.719
one we late. Yeah that is. Yeah, it's just it
784
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.760
just comes off of them, like Dan draw Yeah.
785
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.599
Maybe if they make like a wild sweeping gesture and
786
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.519
then it's just like a little sulfur left afterwards.
787
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.760
Yeah, kind of like kind of like David Bowie and
788
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.840
Labyrinth and Glitter.
789
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.599
It just happens, or is it?
790
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:30.880
Yeah?
791
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.639
I feel like after like coming and going like wherever
792
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.280
they teleport as are out of, Like that's where that's all.
793
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.320
We don't know, we don't know, We're never gonna know.
794
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:40.360
Can we need to stop bringing it up?
795
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.320
But I think the conclusion we can make here is
796
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.280
that there's untap madic potential.
797
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.559
Yeah, clearly.
798
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.280
But this show that is so like into making a
799
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.639
joke out of anything you can really did miss the
800
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.800
boat on that one, because like, yeah, where is it
801
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.320
coming from? Also like a fit as we saw like
802
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.719
a big like clump of sulfur, Like it's visibly like
803
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.920
a clump of sulfur on and not just like a
804
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:02.920
smell of sulfur somewhere in the room.
805
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.199
Because Depen was that at like like spreading it around
806
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.800
forgot just they just dumped it in a rock.
807
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:11.960
Yeah, tossed it on the floor like, look, wa were here.
808
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.320
It's like like a really shitty collie. I wonder who
809
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.760
killed these people. Well, they'll never know it unless we
810
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:18.559
leave a clue.
811
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.920
M Boucazar, you suck at this.
812
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.440
But anyway, they are looking around the house and they
813
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.840
like identify one of the windows like a picture of
814
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.039
Anna in front of a church with her parents, and
815
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.639
they're like, uh, yeah, that's like that's clearly the same
816
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.920
thing that Anna was drawing. Also, like Dean has a
817
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.360
very weirdly sensitive for Dean idea of it putting themselves
818
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.039
in Anna's shoes or brain, which is like a bold
819
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.000
move considering Anna's spin diagnosed as a psychotic. They good,
820
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.800
reasonably she's not actually psychotic, but it is weird for
821
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:55.360
to be like, you know whose brain we.
822
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.960
Should try and get, like you know who we should
823
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.320
try and like understand.
824
00:35:57.960 --> 00:35:59.960
The logica like someone who's like on a bunch of
825
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.360
Bandi psychotics. Like it's just you know, maybe logic isn't
826
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:09.639
like the prevailing failing outcome of that person in that moment.
827
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.079
Like yeah, it's logic, it's just not a logic that
828
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:13.519
people won't understand.
829
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.320
Luckily, Anna isn't actually psychotics, so she actually is operating
830
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.239
on like a pretty solid logic. And like Sam's like, hey,
831
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.800
this is clearly the same picture of the like these
832
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.000
windows if you like we're on the run and demons
833
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.679
were chasing you and like a lot of weird stuff
834
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.480
was happening to you, Like you would probably go to
835
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.519
a church to feel safe too, and they're like, yeah, okay,
836
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.719
let's go. Now that I finished saying that sentence, I
837
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.840
feel really acky about how I just talked about psychosis.
838
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.199
It's it's a much more complex issue than I just
839
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:40.920
painted it to be.
840
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.679
Well, yeah, that's what I was saying, Like, there's there's logic,
841
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.159
it's just not a logic that most of us would relate. No,
842
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:46.960
I feel like it's a.
843
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:48.679
Logic that you don't have a hard time putting yourself
844
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:52.280
into as someone who's not in that same state of mind, which.
845
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:52.840
Is kind of deep.
846
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.159
Yeah, that's kind of a lot of knowledge and empathy.
847
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.400
Yeah, so Jane's just going to go with with you know,
848
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:59.519
whatever he's not going to it's going to be.
849
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.519
Yeah, and how I rounded about it and be like, no,
850
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.400
this is totally totally what this out And yeah, it.
851
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.480
Just jumps on board, so I'm like, okay, yeah, you're
852
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.679
we can match the pictures, like where would you go?
853
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.159
And they're like, yeah, they both get there. They're both
854
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:14.960
they're on the same page with each other, and you
855
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.400
know why it works, So who.
856
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.920
We to argue literally on the same page of the
857
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:20.480
sketch book.
858
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.199
I just thought, like Panda was actually psychotic. I'm not
859
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.320
sure they could have gotten to Anna by doing that.
860
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.800
Like you, you can't really predict how people are going
861
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.800
to react to certain things, like when they're in an
862
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.599
altered mental state, like yeah, just when they're not like
863
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.559
someone else, Like something that sounds logical to somebody else
864
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:37.760
isn't going to be logical to you.
865
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.039
Yeah. I just find it interesting that the boys are
866
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.239
able to find one thing in a picture and can
867
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.000
immediately like they do this all the time. It's Sam
868
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.679
or it's Dean like that the tree in front of
869
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.679
the whatever in his vision like back in season one,
870
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.360
and I'm just like, like.
871
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.840
A photographic memory and thought, what's actually happening?
872
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.880
Like Google image searched their brain.
873
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.400
But I feel like Dean is that too in weird situations,
874
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:02.360
So maybe they both have it.
875
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.199
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, they secretly have a photographic memory, but
876
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.960
like neither of them have been in school and apt
877
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:08.480
to notice.
878
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.920
That would explain a lot about how Sam gotten to Stanford. Actually,
879
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:11.800
that would explain a lot.
880
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.599
Yeah, I kind of accepted that.
881
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:18.239
Memorize the textbooks.
882
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.960
They go to the church and it's it sounds up
883
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.239
guns out going into this church, which is gorgeous stained glass.
884
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.000
By the way, I'm not like a church goer, but
885
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.119
I love church architecture and especially church windows. I think
886
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.840
more secular buildings should be spending the money to make
887
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:33.519
window art.
888
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.639
Yes, they should bring it back.
889
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.079
Why doesn't every fucking nice building have like gorgeous staining glass,
890
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.119
Like why is it only churches? Like I guess it's
891
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.800
expensive and like people all that saving money, but like
892
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.119
it's gorgeous.
893
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.519
Study spending millions, Yeah, what's a few extra?
894
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.679
I don't feel like she actually going into churches that
895
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.599
I don't belong to, being like, can I just like
896
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.599
look at your when someone go into the conference centers.
897
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.280
I study a lot of medieval and early modernists, and
898
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.199
I am just a big believer that everything should just
899
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.159
be Gothic cathedrals. Again, yes, yes, so much work, but
900
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:07.119
it would be worth it.
901
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.039
It would be beautiful. It would none of us clean lines. Yeah, no,
902
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:12.559
I hate that.
903
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.920
I want pointless gargoyles everywhere.
904
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.199
Fun architecture, like, let's be fun with it. Anyway. Sam
905
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.880
says that his name is Sam, and Anna immediately guess
906
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.840
is that his last names Winchester, and he's surprised. But
907
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.920
the surprise is are uniquely Seasons one to four phenomenon
908
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.039
from here on now? If the Winchesters will be highly
909
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.880
offended to meet any angel, demon or monster, etcetera that
910
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:34.960
doesn't know of them, at least by reputation.
911
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.599
If not he like recognized them on site at least here's.
912
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.159
The name, Sam or Dean Winchester doesn't immediately know who
913
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.119
they are, like, they will be offended from here on.
914
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.360
Maybe maybe cower a little bit just for fun.
915
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.480
At least prepared to be like, oh, you're the Winchesters.
916
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.440
If you don't immediately reckon it, if you're not, if
917
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.679
you're not going, oh you're the Winchesters, Like people should
918
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.039
know who they are in this case, though we haven't
919
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.199
gone twice the to Sam's surprise that she knows and
920
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.119
then he's like yeah, She's like so Dina you the
921
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.599
Dee and she's like, the angels stop talking about the winter,
922
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.079
how Dean was safe from hell by Castil and they
923
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:15.119
don't love Sam and talk to the but she can
924
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.039
like overhear them, so she's been listening.
925
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:18.440
To the angels talk for like two months now.
926
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.400
Sam, Yes, I have notes on this bit as well.
927
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.159
I have notes on this bit. Obviously this is a
928
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.800
very some heavy episode, but we can't know. No woman
929
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:32.840
escapes on flirt with a president, not one single solid
930
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.280
true woman. So she's like, you must be vded and
931
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:41.920
he's like yes, and when she goes, but she turns
932
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:43.599
back to some and she's like some of them don't
933
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.079
like you. Alls just like really wounded face, like this
934
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:47.800
is news.
935
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.920
It's yeah. I mean he already met.
936
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.199
I don't think we haven't had the abomination line yet,
937
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:59.039
but we have had no No, that's it. It's fine,
938
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:03.000
but we have had Sam, yeah already and uh Catholic.
939
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:04.800
Sam's like, I'm so honored to me.
940
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.960
He's like stummering and stammering, and like Cass is like,
941
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.280
I'm really glad you've seized your extracurricular activities.
942
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.119
And he just prefer the boy with the demon Blood.
943
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.199
Like yeah, no, so much more.
944
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.679
He's not excited to mean Sam at all. He's and
945
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.159
like really hesitant to shake hands, like he doesn't want
946
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.440
to shake Sam's hand, Like yeah, so we've wanted that.
947
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:26.480
So yeah, this is.
948
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.159
News to Sam, but like it is, like it's still
949
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.639
I think it hurts because Sam still like Sam' said
950
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:32.760
I believe or Sam.
951
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.320
Said yeah, being talked about.
952
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.800
So yeah, he was so excited, like I think he's
953
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.880
so excited, like and like the angels talk about you both,
954
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.199
and like angels like think the Dean's gonna save us.
955
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.280
And then and then she's like, oh I'm Sam, they
956
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.480
don't like you're of you?
957
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.480
He does he just pulls this little wounded.
958
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.079
Feeling to her. He just rejected that.
959
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.159
But you know, he is doing the whole thing with
960
00:41:58.199 --> 00:41:59.840
the powers that he's not supposed to be doing.
961
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.639
The angels have specifically told him not.
962
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.880
To be doing it now, like and not national just
963
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.039
through Deane, but now to his face from the actual angels,
964
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:08.280
like you should not be doing this?
965
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.039
Yes, well, well isn't that the point of free will
966
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:11.679
and all.
967
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.039
That sneaking bad decisions?
968
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.840
A lot is like is Hubrius? So you know he's
969
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.000
not gonna listen anyways.
970
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:21.480
Exactly, there's nothing you can do about it.
971
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.400
Anna says that like can't talk back to the angel,
972
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.519
she just hears them. And the voices started on September eighteenth,
973
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.719
when Dean was pulled out. How the very first thing
974
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.119
Sharon was cast just like straight up screaming team Whenchester
975
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:33.679
is saved.
976
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:34.800
I know this isn't like a.
977
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.320
Dustrial happy episode for guests or for content, but like
978
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.440
that's that's pretty yeah, preaking.
979
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.800
That was not suchually the face that some pulls off.
980
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.800
That is when I finally decided what pcent into Dard's
981
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.840
acting skills should be attributed to solely through his jawline.
982
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.199
And I've settled them twenty nine percent because he pulls
983
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:56.440
a face to Dean.
984
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:00.599
And I'm like screaming about it, like the point that
985
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:06.280
Anna I suddenly can hear angels, Yeah that she can never.
986
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.880
Yelled so hard about your boyfriend.
987
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:13.199
Yeah, it's just what I was dating.
988
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.840
Like, it's that thing where like after your date like
989
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.679
drops you off, and like you close the door and
990
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.760
then you do like the little like happy screaming dance.
991
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.480
Like that was fast.
992
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.679
But luckily they don't have to ruin that by telling
993
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.079
her that her parents have been murdered. Because Ruby shows
994
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.719
up in an absolute panic and a statue of Mary
995
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.960
starts crying blood. Always love when a statue starts crying blood.
996
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.840
Absolutely faith. Another point that I have to make it.
997
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:40.960
Another point that I have to make it. Ruby and
998
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.880
Anna are wearing very similar Hot Girl Supernatural outfits. It's
999
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.000
very similar. Like Yeah, the reason though that Anna needed
1000
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.000
to be seventy six percent in this episode, I think
1001
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.840
she was reason it's like.
1002
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.880
Not get women on this show, Like that is the reason.
1003
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.320
I just love how they have such similar outfits.
1004
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:04.840
So and then also yeah, also because like going into
1005
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.840
the next episode, like romantic parallels need to happen quickly,
1006
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.159
dressing them the same I think is But also, yeah,
1007
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.039
the show this is horrible with women generally, so I'm
1008
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.840
not surprised that they're like all women dresses very specific
1009
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.960
fashion that's like Supernatural Hot Girl.
1010
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.400
Like the jackets, the low cut tops of high heel
1011
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.039
boot jeans.
1012
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.840
Yeah style was also like all no genes came pop
1013
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.480
higher than that in two thousand and eight.
1014
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:31.920
Yeah, that's true.
1015
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.440
All g stopped there.
1016
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.039
Not to put not to put people in boxes. But
1017
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.320
Amma is supposed she's the child of a church deacon.
1018
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.519
You would think if anybody to dress more modestly, Yeah,
1019
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:43.599
I always be here.
1020
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.280
If anybody real well, but we also have to contrast them,
1021
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.039
like we have to compare to contrast them, because Ruby
1022
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.960
the demon and Anna's at least hearing angels and like
1023
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.719
is a child of a deacon.
1024
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.960
Like, I just feel like if anybody was going to
1025
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.960
be a good I know you think she was going
1026
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.920
to dress would be Ruby and Anna would be mom. Like,
1027
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.079
I don't care. I don't think you should dress. What's
1028
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.440
just because you are involved in the church. You shouldn't
1029
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.280
because you want an I was just I was looking
1030
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.360
at a good.
1031
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.599
Her more like Laurie from Herman, who was also like
1032
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.760
the daughter of a church official.
1033
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.880
I think she was a hospital maybe when she escaped
1034
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.320
the hospital that was the old go.
1035
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:26.920
Home so came from. She could button it up more.
1036
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.199
She could, yes, yes, absolutely.
1037
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:34.239
Don't don't compete with your supernatural Like early twenties and
1038
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.199
like I feel like early twenties, like college girls like
1039
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.079
just kind of like dress a little bit like less
1040
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.920
modestly as a general rule, like other stages in life,
1041
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.519
you know, just yeah, she laughs, right though it's really
1042
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.519
at the end of the day, it doesn't.
1043
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:52.360
She could be wearing.
1044
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.920
Something more practical or comfortable, but she looks good and
1045
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.880
that's all. That's all that the costume department cared about,
1046
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.400
And it's all I'm teresting they care about.
1047
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.159
With a number of women wearing like high heels into
1048
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.119
battle on this show and other shows, I don't really
1049
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.960
care about. We have bigger concerns.
1050
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.679
Yeah, if we were, we were gonna go practicality, Salmon
1051
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:16.440
Dean would be in, like Joggers would. Gene wouldn't be
1052
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.400
the first choice. Fifteen the body layers wouldn't be a
1053
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.000
choice either, So you know, I just I don't know.
1054
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.760
It's just I'm like, why why not? Very true?
1055
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.360
Sam literally sticks Anna in a closet and then Ruby
1056
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.920
gets to coaching Sam about how to like pull the
1057
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.360
Stephen or else they're all gonna die. And Sam pulls
1058
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.679
in a flask like maybe he's gonna fill the flask
1059
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.920
cup with something, and then Ruby says, no, there's not
1060
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:42.519
time for that, and so he puts it away.
1061
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.519
Just note that down for the future. It's a surprise
1062
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:47.760
to him that will help us later.
1063
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.199
But also Deve was standing right there, so I like
1064
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.119
that was gonna be a bold fucking move to do
1065
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.440
with Dean present. But because obviously we've seen the shell,
1066
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:57.320
we know what Sam was about to do with that flask,
1067
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:58.079
but we're.
1068
00:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.000
Not gonna talk about it this week.
1069
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.519
Sam Scott that like heart like sound, kind of like low,
1070
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:06.039
which is what is like the signal for Sam's powers,
1071
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.559
and he does go right for the I call it
1072
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.920
nextism in the in my nose, But after this, I'm
1073
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.159
not gonna be calling what Sam does an exsism because
1074
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.400
Ruby doesn't refer to it as an extracism, and I'm
1075
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.000
gonna trust Ruby's the expert here.
1076
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.519
What are they calling it? Like holing it? She says pull,
1077
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.280
like that's all she said, Like it doesn't really happen.
1078
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:24.440
Now it's a verb.
1079
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.280
I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it a demon
1080
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.079
yoink because that sounds funnier.
1081
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.239
An exorcism is like less like we'll get to I
1082
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:35.119
have a whole thing my notes about why I think
1083
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.920
they're different. The demon says that Sam doesn't have the juice,
1084
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.519
and then Demon Telgan.
1085
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:40.559
Says, Sam down the stairs.
1086
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.559
Sam Hayne, who was an actual like Seal, who which
1087
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.800
I spent six hundred years waging to rise, couldn't do
1088
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.000
that to Sam. The dude is bad news. This dude's
1089
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:48.960
overpowered as fuck.
1090
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.079
Also, that actor was on the X Files, of course
1091
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.079
he was, Yeah, that's my thing.
1092
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.119
Like, Dean goes to the demon knife, obviously, what else
1093
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.199
is he going to do with that?
1094
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.719
But it doesn't doesn't.
1095
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.320
Work because this demon is overpowered as fuck, and he
1096
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.000
boldly knows Dean and he's like, oh kay, I'm wearing
1097
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.119
about like a pediatrician as a vessel, so you can't
1098
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:11.920
like see what they look like. But like, as soon
1099
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.719
as he talks a little bit more, Dean's like, this
1100
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.320
is Alistair And we don't know who Alistair is yet,
1101
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:17.639
and unfortunately we're gonna have to.
1102
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:18.320
Learn that later.
1103
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.440
I wish you didn't have to know who Alistair was,
1104
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:22.880
because I don't like Alistair at all.
1105
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:25.639
But he's at a stair, not an Astair.
1106
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.480
Ruey grabs Anna out of the closet and disappears with her.
1107
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.519
Sam comes back and uses the knife, but it doesn't
1108
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.639
kill Alistair, so unfortunately we're have to continue dealing with
1109
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.039
him and Sam and Dean just decided to jump out
1110
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.159
of the window so they don't die, even though it.
1111
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.000
Lily could not help.
1112
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.079
Them from not dying if the demon wanted to keep
1113
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.039
trying to kill them. But it does work, so it
1114
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:46.559
doesn't matter.
1115
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:48.719
That's a there's a cute there's a cute little moment
1116
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.920
that obviously you we know as watches that they're not
1117
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.000
actually jumping out like the second story of the chich
1118
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:55.679
but you're supposed to believe that they are. But we
1119
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.159
know they're only gonna fall like a couple of feet.
1120
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.800
But Jenta does is really weird, like onm flail as
1121
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.800
he like comes through the wind show. That really made
1122
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.679
me laugh because Job, it's like quite reasonably straight faced
1123
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.719
about yes, I'm gonna make it look like I'm falling
1124
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.960
a considerable distance even just flails all these limbs, tins
1125
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:11.760
and just flails.
1126
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.400
I'm not gonna make die die again.
1127
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:19.440
You know what'll come in into the bit.
1128
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:21.719
Anyway.
1129
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.519
Cut to Sam stitching up his own arm. Well, Dean
1130
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.719
is like, hurry up and finish that because my arm
1131
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:28.679
is dislocated.
1132
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:30.519
Cannot stress enough that you should seek a.
1133
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.400
Medical professor in front of joint relocation or stitches.
1134
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:34.920
If you're not gonna do that.
1135
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.679
Don't you use drinking alcohol to sterilize. Get some ice
1136
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.119
of prople alcohol and don't just like splashed on like that.
1137
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.360
It's not good for your skin. And it's also flammable.
1138
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.679
So like, also, rinse the wound before you put the
1139
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:45.840
alcohol on. Yeah.
1140
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.679
Also, yeah, like alcohol, if you are going to alcohol,
1141
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.079
alcohol before you do the stitching, like clean that shadout
1142
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.159
and then stitch and then maybe clean up after.
1143
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.639
But like you're gonna get infected. The only thing protecting
1144
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:56.800
you here is your plot armor.
1145
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:57.719
Holy Sam.
1146
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.840
Yeah, dude, some cleaning beforehand, but don't really seem like it.
1147
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.519
You're bringing earth lodging into this again.
1148
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.480
And I will do it once more.
1149
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.119
This is like this whole, like whiskey on a wound,
1150
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.639
things like from the olden das. Modern whiskeys are like
1151
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.039
half as strong as the olden daste whiskey. You guys,
1152
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.519
therefore not as good as cleaning wounds.
1153
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.639
If you are.
1154
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:26.320
Whiskey on a wound, sounds like a great band. I'm
1155
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:26.960
gonna use that.
1156
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.320
I'm not out here giving anybody any medical advice, but
1157
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.119
should you find yourself in a Winchester situation, you need
1158
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.639
to use vodka, not whiskey. Trust me, this is gonna
1159
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.960
work out better everybody if you try, like ideally go
1160
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.480
to the fucking idle.
1161
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.199
Whiskey and vodka on the two that you can use.
1162
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.360
It seems like podcast is more recommended than whiskey. But like,
1163
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:50.320
but if you're going to to get medical first, like
1164
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.920
generally be like the consensus was if you have some
1165
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.440
other way to clean the wound, don't use alcohol.
1166
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.440
But if you're not really really stuck, Yeah, if you
1167
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.559
were life or death situation, then like, yeah, you should
1168
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.920
definitely try and prevent the infection. Do you know this
1169
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.960
like a whole No, there's just like a whole of
1170
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.599
the bunch of things that I'm just like, you need
1171
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:11.639
to sterilize the needle.
1172
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:15.760
And we've talked about this though too, that the boys
1173
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.679
have never gotten proper first aid skills, like they've they've
1174
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:20.239
never been taught at all.
1175
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.159
Yeah, like correct, like you're not gonna find like a
1176
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.639
suture kit at like your every day but like there's
1177
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:26.239
gonna be.
1178
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.079
Like have it though, Like that's the thing, like why
1179
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:29.760
don't they have that?
1180
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:30.360
Feel much?
1181
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.679
Medical supply stars exist though, And it was it was
1182
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:35.840
what like two thousand and what is this one like
1183
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.440
two thousand. You could get it online. Yeah, you know
1184
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:43.719
it's accessible, like proper suit you Yeah, like fully as well,
1185
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.800
don't ever do this. But if you were having to
1186
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:48.280
be in a dire winch, just a situation where your
1187
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.280
options were like whiskey and vodka, if the only thing
1188
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.119
you have is dental floss, like try and clean the
1189
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.719
mini shit off at first, because that's like you're gonna
1190
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.400
have a real blood time if you don't do that.
1191
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.800
Yeah, obviously, don't do what you can to prevent yourself
1192
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:01.800
from bleeding out.
1193
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.719
Don't do anything the Winchester's doing.
1194
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.239
Yeah, that's following life.
1195
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:10.639
I just feel like you shouldn't view people with so
1196
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.719
life saving information, like what if you want to was
1197
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:14.559
like to have but.
1198
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.039
That didn't happen. So we're just gonna have to go
1199
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:18.280
with what the four boys have got.
1200
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.199
I mean, Sam lost them seven hundred dollars by failing
1201
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.960
to hustle them. Pokers are at pool, so.
1202
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:32.800
Oh my gosh, maybe maybe running maybe maybe maybe He's like, no, should.
1203
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.280
They should have had a line about that, like, you know,
1204
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:39.480
we would be able to get the better dental flaws
1205
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.960
if you had just hustled that.
1206
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.440
Guy seven hundred dollars. It's fine, aunt of dollars.
1207
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:47.119
Dean is pissed that.
1208
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.000
Sam lost the knife to save him. This is the
1209
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.320
most John coated and this is exactly what got Zazel
1210
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.480
caught when he was possessing John was failing to have
1211
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.239
this reaction to Dean wasting the cold bullets like this
1212
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:02.480
is the same thing Dean having the angry reaction when
1213
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.360
he should be having to thank you for saving my
1214
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.480
life reaction. And that's so Sam knows that his brother
1215
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:07.639
is not possessed by a demon.
1216
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.760
So good, that's a chick flick moment. You don't say
1217
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.639
thank you for saving my life, so you can you
1218
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.360
already pop my shoulder black?
1219
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.719
And Sam's not you concerned about Anna. He trusts that
1220
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.119
Ruby will take care of her. But he is really
1221
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:23.800
ain't just to know what kind of demon and throw
1222
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.320
him around like that, because again, Sam Haynes couldn't do
1223
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:27.280
that two weeks ago.
1224
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.199
He does pop to his shoulder.
1225
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.159
Back in and lies lies on three one.
1226
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.400
Yeah, he's not a do it just I've never had
1227
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.760
a dislocated shoulder, but I feel like, yeah, you just
1228
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:40.519
got to like go on one, you got to say
1229
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.039
you're gonna go on three and go on one. This
1230
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:44.800
is the best waiting to do it, Like, it's not
1231
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.960
gonna hurt me last no matter what, at least you're
1232
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:47.679
not expecting it.
1233
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.599
No, I have children, so I fully disagree if you
1234
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.360
say you're going on three, you go on three, because
1235
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:58.239
otherwise you break trust children going three And I'm like, yeah,
1236
00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:59.960
but I knew you were going to flinch the shut up.
1237
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.880
Yeah, I don't know it just children.
1238
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.800
Yeah, like about like yeah, splinters and like pull it
1239
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:08.719
off band aide the ship.
1240
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.880
Yeaholders.
1241
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.760
It's very in character for the Winchesters.
1242
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:15.440
Yeah, it does.
1243
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.519
It does feel when they're like, I feel like breaking
1244
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.159
trust for them, Like it just feels like that's kind
1245
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.239
of what Dina is expecting. Like denus again, why Sam
1246
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.400
trusts movie so much? And this time He's gonna need
1247
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.400
a real answer, and this time Sam's gonna give it
1248
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.280
to him. So we do another flash back to six
1249
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.760
months ago. Sam said is a little Jackie jacket and
1250
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:37.360
he's clearly intoxicated in some way, but he gets jumped
1251
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.360
by a pair of demons. One of them is Ruby
1252
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.760
in a new blonde body. She says she got top
1253
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.000
side again after she promised Lith that she would find
1254
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.480
and kill Sam. Instead, she kills her demon partner and
1255
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:49.639
tells Sam they need to go, and then they're in
1256
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:51.519
the car and Ruby wants French fries.
1257
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.920
Which we've seen her enjoy before, which does lead to
1258
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.599
questions because like, demons and salt are like a no go.
1259
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.159
So she eat her French rice with this.
1260
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.880
Salt on them because like, oh, that's yeah, and that
1261
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:04.960
she loves them anyway, which is very Sam's French fries before.
1262
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:06.840
So does that mean that Sam's French fries don't have
1263
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.760
salt on them? Because we know you're not like Sam.
1264
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.760
Things that people who are low suding of are freaks.
1265
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:14.719
So she was using too, like that has salt, it
1266
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.800
doesn't it. I don't really like I feel like it's
1267
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:17.920
got to be pure salt.
1268
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.440
So maybe by virtue of touching the French fry it's
1269
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.280
not no longer pure enough to cause a problem, or
1270
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.679
maybe she's just like, I.
1271
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:32.199
Don't think that's it. Yeah, it's like eating a hot pepper,
1272
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.360
Like some people just enjoy that, So I think that's
1273
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:34.840
what it is.
1274
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:39.719
To Yeah, I would definitely, I would definitely accept something
1275
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.679
kind of post to say no salt on his fries,
1276
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.880
though for healthy it just sounds like something to.
1277
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.840
Do people in season one low and freaks for not having.
1278
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.519
I feel just out of college though even living on RAM.
1279
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:58.079
And know there is like it's like low key on
1280
00:55:58.159 --> 00:55:58.880
the low studium.
1281
00:55:59.000 --> 00:55:59.760
That is possible.
1282
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.559
They do, they do. We get out.
1283
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:03.639
So back to like every meal that you he out
1284
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:05.760
comes with French fries, Like maybe he is just like, Okay,
1285
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.199
we can't fry like salt on everything, but like honestly,
1286
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:09.320
fries aren't that good about it?
1287
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.000
No, not but heat pale and vegetatd so you know,
1288
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.079
c like taste isn't a problem for him.
1289
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.960
He's nutrients enjoying white fries in the first place. Yeah,
1290
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.639
she didn't go all the way Ruby.
1291
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:26.599
Ruby tells Dan that she doesn't know of anything powerful
1292
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:28.920
enough to save Dean, so she's no longer promising to
1293
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.119
save Dean like she was in the previous season, which
1294
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:33.000
we knew was a lie, like she told Dean she
1295
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.719
was flying the same about that, but now she's I've
1296
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:36.360
been trying to do that.
1297
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.039
And he tells her to get out of his car,
1298
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.239
and then he asks her what.
1299
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.679
Body she's in, which is a secretary and he's like,
1300
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.880
get out of my car and get out of this body,
1301
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:48.039
like let her go. So then we get the Ruby
1302
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.920
as we now have her seed. Ruby's current jenniviecord.
1303
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.440
This body is Jane.
1304
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.000
Doe be taken off of life support that Ruby possesses,
1305
00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:58.960
causing her to wake up it today and French fries,
1306
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:00.000
which I think is a great.
1307
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.599
And also not. But like if I was assuming she's
1308
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.320
in a combra or something being taken off, her body's
1309
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:06.880
in great knit.
1310
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:08.639
She must have like.
1311
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.400
Fallen and hit her head or something like a brain
1312
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:12.719
injury or some sort.
1313
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.119
Like, yeah, she'd expect monal injuries.
1314
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.360
She's a Jane Doe, so they don't know who she is.
1315
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:20.679
So like maybe she's been I don't know how long
1316
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.000
it would take to get permission to unplug somebody that
1317
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:26.639
you can't identify, you can't find a net for, So
1318
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.079
like maybe she's been in the hospital for a long time,
1319
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.599
and like any like superficial boons have healed already, and
1320
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:34.800
then anything internal that would still be wrong with her,
1321
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.039
I guess wouldn't matter to Ruby anyways. So like, as
1322
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:38.679
long as the outside of the body is more or
1323
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:40.239
less intact, I think she's good to go.
1324
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:42.239
Every time I think about this, I just wonder, like
1325
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.519
how long it took Kruby to find that particular body,
1326
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.920
because like it's not easy to find someone that's specific. Yeah,
1327
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.280
as being actor.
1328
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.000
Completely prefers attractive females, and she was definitely looking for
1329
00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.639
someone who's like gonna be dead anyways.
1330
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.119
But do you love that she brings sam a.
1331
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.760
Doctor though I got paperwork. I brought the receipts to
1332
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.800
prove that her vessel was recycled. So the samlets are
1333
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.840
in and she's she like makes a point to say,
1334
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.239
like there's like the person that was in this body
1335
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:15.719
is gone.
1336
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:17.320
It's just Ruby in.
1337
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.840
There, which I think is really interesting considering what happens
1338
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.000
to cast later in the series. It's very important that
1339
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:26.639
the body's uh be on the empty side. But Samson's
1340
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:28.519
this like weird abandoned house.
1341
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:32.840
Just stay in a hotel, because then you couldn't. He's
1342
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.920
clearly losing every inch of his mind that needs to
1343
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.800
be that's true. I guess I could never look out
1344
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:40.880
if Pap is that house demolished, because in some ship
1345
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:42.880
does look like, yeah, you can see right there like
1346
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.079
an external set and there's like leaves and ship.
1347
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.400
Like one wall is like torn down and the like
1348
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:50.519
reborn backup or something or like.
1349
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.039
More fun to squatting an abandoned building.
1350
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.679
Yeah, it's like abandoned and you know what, you know
1351
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:57.400
what I think it is is like Sam is actually
1352
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.119
so seriously suicidal at this point that, like I do
1353
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.199
you kind of think maybe he's like, well, if I die,
1354
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:03.639
I don't want like a person that works at the
1355
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:05.800
motel to find the body, Like I could definitely see
1356
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:09.639
that being the stamp suck. Yeah, sometimes very insensitive in
1357
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:11.960
that way. Specifically, he would be sensitive.
1358
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.039
I feel like even in like a very dark.
1359
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.559
Moment where he's contemplating like killing himself, I feel like he.
1360
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.719
Would be sensitive to like what the aftermath of that
1361
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:21.440
is going to be.
1362
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.599
Oh that was depressing. I not like on that for
1363
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:26.119
too long.
1364
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.920
I don't know. I'll change direction completely because this is
1365
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.519
I know I made for this bit is massive props
1366
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.760
to whoever did the make up for this episode, because
1367
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.760
Jared is time as f in this episode. It in
1368
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.000
his arms, but then makeup on his face. They make
1369
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.719
him look like genuinely like he has a good meal
1370
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.559
in like weeks sleep. He's like blotchy because he's drum
1371
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.079
all the time, his head.
1372
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.239
Very from like his eyes like around his like the
1373
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.960
color around his eyes that he's been intoxicated, and all
1374
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:56.159
of these slash vaccines like.
1375
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.679
Yeah, I had just had to be like, and he's
1376
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.559
still hot as well, even I don't And I'm like,
1377
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:07.480
that's impressive. It's impressive, which is always a news badlam.
1378
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:07.800
Yeah.
1379
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:08.039
Yeah.
1380
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.039
He says that she can't bring me back, but what
1381
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.800
she can do is help Sam kill it. And Sam
1382
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.960
immediately agrees he's ready to go do the psychic whatever.
1383
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.559
No hesitation from him, no second thoughts about Remember like
1384
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.000
when Jan first got back and he asked.
1385
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.880
Sam about the psychic thing and Sam was like, oh, no,
1386
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.000
that is your dying wish.
1387
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:28.199
Of course I wouldn't have, not even a little, but
1388
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.199
the hesitation, not even and I'm not sure, just immediately yes,
1389
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:32.639
I'm ready to do the psychic thing.
1390
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:37.039
God, oh baby, I wish she wouldn't.
1391
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:38.800
I mean, I I don't actually wish I could say,
1392
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.400
like when you do the bad thing, but I wish you.
1393
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:46.159
Wouldn't lie so freely about it like it was your
1394
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.280
die English. But I decided no, yeah, I decided I
1395
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.000
was gonna do something different because yeah, I'm so like.
1396
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.079
Like back and forth, I'm like, what I want Sam
1397
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.079
to be? Like, I want Sam to never have a
1398
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.000
bad day ever, But on the other hand, I also
1399
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.440
want him to go on this dark arc. Like those
1400
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.239
two things can't both happen. Ruby's like, no, we can't
1401
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.079
just go in hat in half ass it like we
1402
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.800
did when Dean died. And so she makes Dam promise
1403
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.280
that he'll have patience and sobriety, and then she'll teach
1404
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:12.159
him how to use his powers. Then we get like
1405
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.719
a brief like interruption in the flashback, and then we're back.
1406
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.599
Nothing important happens flashback to Sam failing to pull a demon,
1407
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:22.480
which is exclusively how Ruby refers to Sam's gift. And
1408
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.320
I think it's different than exorcism because it feels more
1409
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.239
permanent because if you do an exorcism, the demon can
1410
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.280
just come back out of hell. It feels like when
1411
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.480
Sam does this thing, that demons aren't gonna be able
1412
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:33.559
to like pop back out of hell.
1413
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:36.199
I'd always take it because you see like this moke
1414
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:38.719
kind of like fracture. Yeah, I'd always assumed it was
1415
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:41.559
it was a destruction of the demon in the same knife.
1416
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:45.639
Is it feels like the more permanent it feels somewhere, Yeah,
1417
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.119
but like pulls it out of the vessel first, as
1418
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.719
opposed to the knife which kills the demon inside the vessel,
1419
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:52.719
which kills the vessel.
1420
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:54.760
Yeah, yeah, I agree, so like this.
1421
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.000
Yeah, so I'm I think I'm going to use rubies
1422
01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:59.760
like pull more than I'm going to use exorcism, which.
1423
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:01.199
I told you.
1424
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.079
I was aw Thanks. Ruby tries to.
1425
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:08.559
Talk about Sam's grief, but Sam shuts her down very
1426
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:10.280
firmly that he doesn't want to talk about Dean. He
1427
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.079
looks very good in this gratchy shirt.
1428
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:14.760
And it's the same shit that he was wearing when
1429
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.079
he's stitching off his arm. Yeah, and then he changes
1430
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.440
from that shirt to like a more blue tone ship
1431
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:21.880
present but it's the Great Ship and he cleans up.
1432
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:22.159
Yeah.
1433
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.079
Ruby says that I was to be.
1434
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:27.400
A gray shirt again. That's one of Carly's notes, that
1435
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:29.519
gray shirt again again.
1436
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.920
Ruby, for sure, she used to be human, and so
1437
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.480
she's sorry for Sam's lost because she still remembers what
1438
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:38.000
last feels like and he just like can't talk about it,
1439
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.639
like he cannot talk about it, which makes me sad.
1440
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.679
And this is the thing with Sam, Sam's but he
1441
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.000
spent he spent his whole life with John and Dean.
1442
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:48.400
He hasn't really been given the skills he's been told
1443
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.679
to grief and when he never knew beaten well enough. Yeah,
1444
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:55.920
you have to be sad about her twenty four to seven.
1445
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:57.599
And if you're not sad enough, we're going to tell
1446
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.079
you that you don't care. But don't ever talk and
1447
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:01.320
try and make a connection with this person.
1448
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.920
She was right, worship her the way we do.
1449
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.159
Yeah, don't talk about it.
1450
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.920
Ruby says that Sam's alone and she kisses him, and
1451
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:10.480
I love that.
1452
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:15.599
Consent not consentual, Honestly, given what we find out later
1453
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:19.440
about this whole arrangement and Ruby, it makes sense.
1454
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.760
Yeah, yeah, so this, this is.
1455
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.760
Not consensual at all. Sam pushes her away. He walks
1456
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.880
into the next room, like very clearly, he's very upset.
1457
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.960
He puts a lot of physical distance between them.
1458
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.440
He whites drove out laughter.
1459
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.880
He is drunk and he's not supposed to drinking. Like
1460
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.599
very much all around bad news. Not consent. Ruby is
1461
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.880
like reassuring him about being the only one in the body,
1462
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.519
and she gets down on her knees in front of him,
1463
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.480
like and she's like pulling his hands underneath her shirt
1464
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.440
and she's telling him how nice her body feels, and
1465
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.800
she taunts him about like being scared and about how
1466
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.400
like taboo like having sex with the demon would be and.
1467
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:59.599
Like nanky, like she prechers, and he kind of kisses her.
1468
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.960
To shut her up, and then he like in the
1469
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.960
next and then it's all over from there. He like
1470
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.280
pulls her off into his lap and they're undressing each other.
1471
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.039
Like he's basically doing this because she dared him too,
1472
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:10.679
like because she said that he was going to be
1473
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.360
too scared to do it. And he's sad and he's
1474
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.639
lonely and like he doesn't want to talk, and like
1475
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.639
this is just the best way to achieve that, and
1476
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:18.039
it's very, very uncomfy.
1477
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.840
But the thing is, it's it's one of those really icky,
1478
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.119
like sexual assault against the Winchess, the things that me
1479
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.559
and Sandra have talked about on app podcast. But it's
1480
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.920
one of the hottest things I'm liked in this show
1481
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:28.239
as well.
1482
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.239
And it's just that they're not struggle because this is
1483
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:32.760
Jared and his future wife.
1484
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.320
Yeah yeah, at the last time, you can see the
1485
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:37.760
chemistry between them, and I'm.
1486
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:38.400
Like, I don't like this.
1487
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.559
I used to not like this scene because I'm like,
1488
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:42.599
they're not I'm not sure how much of this is acting,
1489
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.800
and like that makes me uncomfortable because I do think
1490
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:46.880
that like even people who are I'm a big fan
1491
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.079
of intimacy coordinators, and I don't I think this was
1492
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.400
much too early for Supernatural to have one M.
1493
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:54.719
But like I think even people who.
1494
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:57.239
Are partnered in real liction of an intimacy coordinator when
1495
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.559
they're doing on camera work, I just think, Yeah, I
1496
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.760
think it's uncomfortable to watch two people who are actually
1497
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:03.960
in a couple be in a scene like this that's
1498
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.559
not like where it's like very like weird low key
1499
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.159
sexual assault. Like it's like not like a violent assault,
1500
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.800
still non consensual and like that's not okay.
1501
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.599
Still, Like yeah, it's like a sex of the Jurasca
1502
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:16.039
wor scenes.
1503
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.760
Yeah, it's very manipulative, but I'm also here for Ruby
1504
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:20.760
to be manipulative.
1505
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:22.920
Like that's the thing that I think makes Ruby so
1506
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:26.599
great that she's manipulative, but she's so good at it.
1507
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:31.159
Yeah, yes, this this scene is it basically captures pretty
1508
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.039
much everything I love about some which is he's so
1509
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.679
much bigger than everyone else. So his hand is like
1510
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.880
the side, Oh my god, yeah, I hit her face.
1511
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.679
He lifts her up and she's like his arm like
1512
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:47.320
bigger than her flies and I'm like, oh, yeah a lot.
1513
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:49.840
Jared bulked up a lot between these and three and four,
1514
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:51.719
and like, this is the first time we've really seen
1515
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.360
him like have noticeable muscles. It's a lot of muscles.
1516
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:54.679
It is.
1517
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:57.719
It's a long it's a long scene too. It's funny
1518
01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.679
that this is the scene where we first notice all
1519
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:00.480
his muscles.
1520
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.400
Yeah, Dean stops the story there because that's too much
1521
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:08.320
information about his brother and he's like Sam's like, I
1522
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.239
told you I was coming clean, and Dean just goes, yeah,
1523
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:11.199
well now I feel dirty.
1524
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.519
Is a great line. That's a great line, but also
1525
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.119
it's just not the same thing that the last season
1526
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.360
was going. It's my last dear on this, like so
1527
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:22.679
many months left. When you sleep in the car so
1528
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:24.760
I can fuck these girls in the hotel room.
1529
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.480
Watch this is DEMONI this is demony.
1530
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:30.440
I mean Sam walked in on Jane in that motel
1531
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.320
room and he's supposed to be seeing in the car,
1532
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:35.400
and Dean was like it was a natural being black, Sam,
1533
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.320
you shouldn't be gross up about this at all, just
1534
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.039
hearing about his baby. So he's a little b hymo
1535
01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:43.639
critical but also like, yeah, we eat all the details.
1536
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.880
If I was never wed, I mean I would never
1537
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.679
be having a conversation like this with my brother, but
1538
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.719
I would never disclose any graphic information about.
1539
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:53.599
My sex, like to my s of Like if you
1540
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:56.599
just like get that it happened anyway, I would feeling swiftly.
1541
01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:58.880
I would maybe be like, yeah, I slept with this person.
1542
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.039
There would be no details, we know details on what
1543
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:01.960
how that happened.
1544
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:03.440
I get it.
1545
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:06.079
Hard to believe though, that Sam was that detailed.
1546
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.800
I agree, I.
1547
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:13.920
Think we're getting details and genus not he's not he's
1548
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.800
a little and how many years is he and Joe?
1549
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:20.559
I don't know Sam, Sam.
1550
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:24.360
Sam gives me like not very Sam gives me like
1551
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:28.119
on the ace spectrum somewhere vibes and always has And
1552
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:31.079
so for me, like, yeah, I don't know something about
1553
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.480
Sam just like never felt comfortable. But maybe it's just
1554
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:37.079
to have how how aggressive genius and like talking about sex,
1555
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.679
But like for me, Sam just never felt comfortable talking
1556
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:40.039
about it.
1557
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.440
I'm penciling you in to come talk about that.
1558
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:47.440
I love to come talk about like, yes, right, talk.
1559
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:49.519
To me about Yes, talk to me about Ace.
1560
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:53.360
I love Sam like as an ACE person. It's just
1561
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:54.159
great for me.
1562
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.559
Amazing. You also welcome, Meredith. That was like an open
1563
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.880
advice about a because that's not something I have considered
1564
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:02.719
and I want to know more.
1565
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:04.079
Still any cage here.
1566
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.880
And after we recorded this episode, we went did except
1567
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:11.199
that and we recorded an episode with Sandra and Casey
1568
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.079
where we did talk about Ace Sam and it's up
1569
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.279
on Idahoa podcast.
1570
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.239
Need to listen to whenever you want.
1571
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:20.600
It's out there and available.
1572
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.119
And I had a great time over there, so please
1573
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.479
go and check that out here where we went with
1574
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:26.319
that conversation.
1575
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.920
There isn't a lot for in the fanfic world, but
1576
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.000
maybe I need to fix that.
1577
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.119
Uh, gotta do that.
1578
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.000
But that means, I mean, if you're not if your
1579
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:38.359
pitch isn't going to be super smutty, then like you
1580
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:40.359
gotta do plot and that's complix.
1581
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:46.199
Yeah, that's the you have to jo It's time you
1582
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:49.279
can talk about feelings. And I was a person I
1583
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:49.560
don't know.
1584
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.680
As a writer, I'm so much better at talking about
1585
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.199
feelings than I am in realized.
1586
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.119
If I've got my fanfic, though, I don't want to
1587
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:58.880
commit to fly, it's so much easier just to like
1588
01:08:58.960 --> 01:08:59.880
have them jump into bed.
1589
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:00.640
Yeah.
1590
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.720
Well, you know, I have a really great I have
1591
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:04.920
a really great suggestion for you that write something that
1592
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.640
is no plot, just palm, and then when it's done
1593
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:09.479
and go, huh, I could do a flashback about this,
1594
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:11.880
and then do the flashback and then you go, oh, ship,
1595
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:13.680
now I need to connect these two and then a
1596
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.279
connecting thing. But he's definitely more plot than palm. And
1597
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:19.359
then suddenly, well, now now you've got an au and
1598
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.720
now you've got a series, and now you're like nearly
1599
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:24.239
fifty k words into it, and you've pummed it into
1600
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.399
a thousand pieces, and now you're going, oh god, I've
1601
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:29.000
got to fix this for two in a time jump
1602
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:33.199
my way out of this. Sound like advice, No, it's
1603
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.399
real life. It'sopening to me. This is what I've done.
1604
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:37.640
So it's more like a cautionary tale.
1605
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:38.640
Yeah.
1606
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:40.800
No, I'm just encouraging people to end up in the
1607
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:41.239
same boat.
1608
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:50.359
Come the white Whale and me. Dean is not really like.
1609
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.399
Seeing how anything that has happened is like worth trusting
1610
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:54.960
Ruby over.
1611
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:58.399
It's like, okay, Ruby manipulated anyone to having sex.
1612
01:09:59.560 --> 01:09:59.800
I don't.
1613
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.359
I turned into trusting Ruby, and Sam's like, well, after that,
1614
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:05.840
I found out where Lilith was and I wasn't ready,
1615
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:08.279
but I went in anyway. So we flashed back to
1616
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.079
that and Ruby says that Sam's the only one that
1617
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:14.439
could do it, So if Lilith kills him, everything's over.
1618
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.760
Remember the very the very specific phrase, Sam's the only
1619
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:19.960
one who can do it, because that's going to come back.
1620
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.640
And then Ruby realizes that Sam wants to die, and
1621
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.800
he especially wants to die fighting Lilith, and if he
1622
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.119
survives with Lilith, then he's gonna have to keep on
1623
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.560
living without Dean. So like Sam's like fall on Scidal
1624
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.560
at this point, like explicitly, Ruby has suddenly had the realization.
1625
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.960
Sam gets really violent with Ruby and like Pinsarbrook gets
1626
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.520
the wall, says it's going and then walks out. Ruby
1627
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.399
is a demon, but we do need to remember she's
1628
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.720
in the shape of a very tiny woman and Sam's
1629
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.680
a large man. And the show just loves for men
1630
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.239
to like chuck women around.
1631
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.039
It's crazy, yeah, like but like finding excuses to do
1632
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.760
so like she's a demon, she can hand it, could have.
1633
01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:00.279
Stormed out and been angry without like putting hands on her.
1634
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.439
I feel like this show just really loves for female
1635
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:04.600
characters to experience FI.
1636
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:08.079
Yeah, yeah, they're like never Yeah, like if Meganists is
1637
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.359
doing it, like they always like to pick on the
1638
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:12.760
more powerful women because they can just use the excuse
1639
01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:14.239
like she's she's an opponent.
1640
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.279
But then in the next scene, like Ruby gets her
1641
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.359
vessels wrists broken, So yeah, is she is she a
1642
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:23.560
powerful and vulnerable demon or is she a little five
1643
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.399
foot four girl. She's depends on what the plot calls for.
1644
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:28.760
I suppose she is.
1645
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.800
She is both like that the broken risk still going
1646
01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.039
to hurt what the but like it's like not really
1647
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.159
actually going to affect her because she's the deep.
1648
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.159
It does, but it doesn't have scene though she.
1649
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.720
Should it really shouldn't actually based on like, yeah, we've
1650
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.039
seen with like Meg, like based on like season one,
1651
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:46.119
season two Meg.
1652
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.840
Like anything like make up thrown off a fucking building.
1653
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:54.039
And shot and a whole bunch of all and got
1654
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.720
up and walked away, So like, really, yeah.
1655
01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.199
Ruby should have should Ruby's wrists should be able.
1656
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.800
To break, but it shouldn't hurt her. Yeah, no, but
1657
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:02.880
it does does.
1658
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.279
It puts her in a really vulnerable position in sight
1659
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:06.960
in the next day.
1660
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:09.119
I guess it was just on a whole different level
1661
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:09.680
she was built.
1662
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.600
I mean, Meg was pretty high up actually so true.
1663
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:18.079
Miss I'm sorry, but yeah, I also missed. Sam thinks he's.
1664
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.600
Family Lilith, but when he he actually finds his scared
1665
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.119
little girl and two large goon demons. See this is
1666
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:25.560
where we usually see demons that are in male vessels.
1667
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:27.960
Is these like big goons that like show up to
1668
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:28.920
like do violets.
1669
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:33.960
Right, I'm so happy, like with the exception of yellow Eyes. Honestly, yeah,
1670
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.800
so she was doing plot stuff while also throwing full room.
1671
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.920
Yeah and like and like there's no reason because like
1672
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:41.560
the girl demons can also do that. Like so I
1673
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:43.600
do think that, like the reason about our male crossers
1674
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:45.439
dement is just to be like oyah, male demons can
1675
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.119
do other shit. But like because Lili in Little Girl
1676
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:51.680
Forn could absolutely take Sam no problem. Like her her
1677
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.000
powers aren't relative the size of her body in any way,
1678
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:56.319
she just like doesn't bother.
1679
01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:59.800
It's like beneath her she has goons. Honestly, I wonder
1680
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.159
if that's part of the reason why she had a
1681
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.439
like a preference for little girl vessels for a little while.
1682
01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:08.760
I think her preferences for like is what we saw
1683
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.720
in like season three of like shadowing up in families
1684
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:14.600
and like tormenting the other family members. I think that's
1685
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:15.399
what Lilith likes.
1686
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.199
And doing that like as I love someone who is
1687
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:21.319
supposed to be well, and but doing that as like
1688
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.439
one of the we weakest members of the family, Like,
1689
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:25.800
I think she enjoys that.
1690
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:29.079
I think she enjoys making people expect her to be weaker,
1691
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.920
but then proving that she is going to I think that.
1692
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:35.600
I think, yeah, like like violence, like family violence suddenly
1693
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.359
out of nowhere is terrifying for many family members. It's
1694
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:40.319
especially terrifying from like a six year old.
1695
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:44.520
Girl exactly that. Yeah, But like after after she takes
1696
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.520
Ruby's first vessel, we mostly see her in the form
1697
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:48.600
of adults.
1698
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.960
Also Lilith, like Lilith's like food of choice is newborn babies,
1699
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.319
and I feel like, you know, like popping into a
1700
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:57.880
family has like a small child and a baby. It's
1701
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:04.399
just like Lilith I have most honestly, I don't usually
1702
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:06.159
hope for like vessels to die. But I hope, like
1703
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:08.520
any girl, but I hope that like the vessels that
1704
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.399
like Lowe has been in, like most of them have
1705
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.920
not made it, because like that's.
1706
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.359
Horrific to go back to and like live with that trauma.
1707
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.199
Like that poor girl that Lois was in in this
1708
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.840
season three Finelli like killed her grandfather and her cat
1709
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:23.680
and her babysitter. Yeah, like all like a bunch of
1710
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.800
people and with the rest of her family's traumatized. And
1711
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.399
I hope she doesn't remember it or like, and I
1712
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:30.840
hope that her family like gets over because it's awful.
1713
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.720
Yeah, because they have to. They didn't we I think
1714
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:36.840
we discussed this already. But it's not good for anyone. No,
1715
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:37.319
it's bad.
1716
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.960
It's bad all around. Ruby shows up to fight Evens
1717
01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:43.640
and Sam rabbed the like little girl vessel and runs
1718
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:46.079
away with her. Ruby's going to be captured and her
1719
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.399
wrists broken or whatever. So Sam comes back and he
1720
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:51.720
actually manages to do the psychic thing correctly this time. Yeah,
1721
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:53.960
like seems like he hadn't really managed to do it before,
1722
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.199
but he doesn't miss time and saves Ruby, and then
1723
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:58.880
Sam says, like whatever d have to say, Ruby came
1724
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:00.920
back to save him when she didn't need to and
1725
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:02.960
when she thought he was definitely gonna die. And the
1726
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.840
things that she said are the things that Dean would
1727
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:08.239
have said. And those two things coupled together were like
1728
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.000
enough to like trust.
1729
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.760
Her, especially because he was in such a dark place
1730
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:16.479
she needed someone like that he needed. It's the Dean thing.
1731
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:19.159
She's using the fact that Deane's not here to manipulate
1732
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:21.319
Sam by like saying things she knows the Dean would say, Like,
1733
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:22.880
it's not hard to figure out what Dean would say
1734
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:23.439
to Sam like.
1735
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:29.680
Around them before, like they already have a history. Yeah,
1736
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.000
and he has already tried to trust her in the past.
1737
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:36.920
And Sam said, like, if Ruby wanted them dead, like
1738
01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:38.640
you would just stop saving them. And I think this
1739
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:40.960
was just like one more nail in the in that coffin.
1740
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:41.439
Well.
1741
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:43.920
Also, one thing I don't think they really mentioned is
1742
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:47.159
that she got sent to hell because of them, because
1743
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:49.920
she was helping them, that.
1744
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:53.279
She did the things that she did to get back
1745
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.159
after that, like being promised Lilith she would do, and
1746
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:57.840
the thing she like went through to prove that she
1747
01:15:57.960 --> 01:15:59.439
was back on the list side when she went to
1748
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:03.039
find Sam were pretty horrific, so she claimed.
1749
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.479
Yeah, so these are all these things that would just yeah,
1750
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.520
Sam everything so much in this moment.
1751
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:10.159
Yeah.
1752
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:12.840
Then a housekeeper knocks on the door and give Sam
1753
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:14.720
an address and tells them not to take the car
1754
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.039
leave a bathroom window. I haven't stayed in a hotel,
1755
01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:18.560
and I'm a hot minute, but like, I feel like
1756
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.319
you'd be really hard pressed to find a motel with
1757
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:23.399
a bathroom window that Sam or Dean Winchester could book open.
1758
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:27.600
And we're just gonna pretend that rupe instruction's made sense.
1759
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:32.279
I love this housekeeper. Yees houskeeper was excellent.
1760
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:35.319
This is my favorite scene and the whole thing I
1761
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.880
just let the actress did an amazing job twenty seconds.
1762
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:41.840
Yeah, she did a really good job at like maintaining
1763
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:46.760
Ruby's manner. Yeah, she commanded story with Dean.
1764
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:47.760
Excellent.
1765
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.159
Yes, she came, she saw she go.
1766
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.119
Yeah, Sam and Dean do you get out? We don't
1767
01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:55.560
have to watch them try and climb out of a
1768
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:59.039
tiny window and they guess what they address. Anna is
1769
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:02.800
now also on Ruby, which Dean's feelings are swayed between
1770
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.920
this and Sam's thing, and he appreciates someone looking after
1771
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:08.199
Sam because he knows that Sam was in a horrible place.
1772
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:10.439
Like it's not Dean knows that Sam's in a bad place.
1773
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.079
He doesn't really until now, I don't think knew the extent,
1774
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.520
And he didn't know the extent that Ruby hadn't been
1775
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.199
involved in like keeping him alive. But like that's that's
1776
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:20.680
something that Dean would would like overlook a lot of
1777
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:25.159
red flags for. Anna wants to call her parents, and
1778
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.199
Sam gets down and gets like dangerously close to the
1779
01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:30.560
Sam Whisper and tells her that her parents have been
1780
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.720
killed and she's devastated by that news. I felt really
1781
01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:34.239
bad for her.
1782
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:36.560
Yeah, we haven't seen the Sam Whisper.
1783
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:37.720
It's been a minute.
1784
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.359
It really. It was really weird.
1785
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:42.119
And then Anna like hears something and she says they're coming,
1786
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:44.359
and the lights flicker and they all assume demon and
1787
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:47.760
I'm like, Anna, wouldn't hear it if it was Eman
1788
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.760
but they lock in it in a different closet. Anna's
1789
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.880
just it's locked and right in this episode.
1790
01:17:53.760 --> 01:18:00.560
Dean's projecting Ruby is really pissed to learn that they
1791
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.880
lost the knife. Dean immediately throws Sam under the bus
1792
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:04.159
for that, and Sam's.
1793
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:08.399
Like, hey, with the best smile as well. Moth like evil.
1794
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:12.439
Yeah, doesn't care that they're about to literally die because
1795
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:12.600
of it.
1796
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:17.680
Yes, sibling rivalry. The door goes flying, but it's not Alistair,
1797
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:19.039
it's cass in Uriel.
1798
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:21.560
Ruby's eyes goes go black, which we don't see Ruby
1799
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.960
do demonize very often because we obviously know Ruby's demon
1800
01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:27.600
when we see her. They're not very thrilled that they're
1801
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:32.039
all hanging out together with Anna and Ruby and cass
1802
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:34.199
Is that they're there for Anna, and Dean just wants
1803
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:37.159
to clarify if that means that they're there to help
1804
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:39.840
Anna or there to harm Anna, and cass is really
1805
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.279
honest that they're going to kill her, and neither Sam
1806
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.439
or Dean takes on news with a smile. They're both
1807
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:47.920
like not having to hear that, and then the episode
1808
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:49.560
fades to the to be continued.
1809
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:52.479
Pick that throat up later.
1810
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.640
Any any other like thoughts on the plot before we
1811
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:57.079
get into our like segments.
1812
01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:58.800
I mean, I just feel like it was a lot
1813
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:01.640
like for the whole episode, which was great. I've I've
1814
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:05.399
listened and I've watched a lot of other Supernatural episodes
1815
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:08.079
that don't do all this plot really well, And like
1816
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:10.880
the backstory and the characterization. So I think that's one
1817
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:13.159
of the reasons I rated it a lot higher. It
1818
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.119
just seemed like it just it all made sense. It
1819
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.760
flowed really well, and they it's hard to do flashbacks,
1820
01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:20.640
and I feel like they did that well too. And
1821
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:23.960
just that really liked the Ruby that we only got
1822
01:19:24.119 --> 01:19:27.159
a little bit of. I would have liked to have seen, yeah,
1823
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:28.720
stick around a little bit more.
1824
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:29.399
I liked that.
1825
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.199
I liked I just like the portrayal of the Krly
1826
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:34.520
and I were talking about that previously too, Like just
1827
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:35.840
I wanted to see that one more.
1828
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:38.840
I really like Jens Ruby.
1829
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:44.239
But I forgot that there was addigital Rubies aside from
1830
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.960
Genevieve Cortez Lucky and Katie Cassidy.
1831
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:53.960
I forgot that there was in between Rubies this episode.
1832
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:56.680
Yeah, I forgot that we had the Secretary, and I
1833
01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.720
forgot that we had the the Maid.
1834
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.520
I forgot the word made for a second Secretary had
1835
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:04.880
a really cool outfit. Yeah.
1836
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.520
Yeah, that was a really fun Ruby too, and I
1837
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:09.680
thought that she did a really good job. I thought
1838
01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:13.079
that her mannerisms were very consistent with like Kata Cassidy's performing.
1839
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:16.239
I really enjoyed that so yeah, I thought that was
1840
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:20.199
really great. We're gonna go into m VP of the week. Meredith,
1841
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:21.880
you m VP this week?
1842
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:23.760
I don't know, cut back to you.
1843
01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:26.279
Maybe Ruby. I don't know. She was doing a lot,
1844
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.359
and I don't necessarily agree with what she was doing,
1845
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:33.000
but I do think she did a good job of
1846
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:37.319
keeping Sam on this plane of existence, which is something
1847
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.199
we need. But she wasn't manipulating.
1848
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:42.119
Carli, do you have an m v P the I
1849
01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:44.199
want it to be some, like so od, I want
1850
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:46.159
it to be some, but I do kind of have
1851
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:48.520
to give it very begrudging leg to Ruby because it
1852
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:54.359
was it was all yeah, I don't like it, though, Sandra.
1853
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:54.560
How about you?
1854
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.640
It was Ruby? Same same. I have Ropie grudgingly because
1855
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.680
she did a lot to help Sam, you know, throughout
1856
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:02.880
the episode and in the flashbacks, he would not be
1857
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.760
he would not be where he was regard us without her.
1858
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.000
So yeah, I think they did a.
1859
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:09.960
Really good job in this episode, because it is hard
1860
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.600
to like why Sam trust Ruby, like we we don't
1861
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:14.720
like Dean doesn't trust Ruby. We don't want trust Ruby.
1862
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:18.880
Usually Dean's write about these things. I took a different
1863
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:20.960
angle with my m VP. I went for literally, who's
1864
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:22.920
the most valuable person in this episode, and that's Anna.
1865
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:30.600
Everybody She's this episode, the angels, water, the demons water,
1866
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:33.119
everyone's hunting her down, murdering her parents.
1867
01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:38.279
I feel like, you know, high Night America most wanted no,
1868
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:38.920
but I do.
1869
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:40.560
I do think Ruby is a good choice.
1870
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:42.159
I just I was like, I don't want it to
1871
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.199
be Ruby, but it's Ruby for baby.
1872
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.640
The only person who's never allowed to be m VP,
1873
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:49.880
no matter how useful.
1874
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.880
They are, is John Winchester, so that that's not a
1875
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:57.920
problem no matter how he is. Think of a moment.
1876
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:02.520
Likely we don't often have to deal with him being
1877
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.920
at all helpful or around anymore. But yeah, no matter
1878
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:08.720
what help he provides.
1879
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:14.920
Not enough, you can s y. Yes, the reason we're
1880
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:15.159
in this.
1881
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:18.680
Episode maybe has.
1882
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:20.399
Going for the Bechdel test.
1883
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:21.880
We have two name women's episode.
1884
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.159
Yeah, we have Anna, we have Ruby, and like three
1885
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:25.319
different bodies one.
1886
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.359
I picked Anna and the psychiatrist at the beginning they
1887
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:29.239
had a conversation.
1888
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.359
Yeah, perfect, because I was like, Anna and Ruby kind
1889
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:33.279
of have a conversation.
1890
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.119
M that's not about a man.
1891
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:35.800
But I wasn't sure.
1892
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.479
But Anna and her psychiatrists definitely do psychiatrists have a name.
1893
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:42.199
Yes, I feel like she's not for something.
1894
01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:44.039
Let me just check and.
1895
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:47.800
I'm just gonna check her the I M D and
1896
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.079
C if the IMDb credits are with having a name
1897
01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:54.680
or she's just the doctor. Okay, she is credited as psychologist.
1898
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.920
She doesn't have a name, Okay, so technically that would
1899
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.039
really I think it's shit. I mean, I feel like
1900
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.000
I feel like that those two things combined, because Anna
1901
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:07.399
and Ruby definitely have a conversation and it's kind of
1902
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.119
about not about a man, like Anna and Ruby talk
1903
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:13.039
to each other. When annas is cool with Ruby and
1904
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:14.880
like they've been hanging out. I feel like I feel
1905
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.960
like it's a yellow but like we are really desperate
1906
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.039
for passes, so I'm gonna pass it. I'm going to
1907
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:20.399
pass it.
1908
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.920
Also, we get they get points for female doctors. Yeah,
1909
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:25.039
I mean, it would have been nice if she had
1910
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:29.279
a name, but at least the name tag like anything, Yeah,
1911
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:31.520
that counts, Okay.
1912
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:34.920
Our next segment is our case of the Week.
1913
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:36.399
We have angels and demons.
1914
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:38.920
It's like a prophet like angle with Anna, but we
1915
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:41.720
don't really know much about Anna. Is there anything anybody
1916
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:42.920
wanted to talk about in this.
1917
01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:45.479
I was going to reserve my stuff for the next
1918
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:48.840
episode because there's more of an explanation for Anna. Yeah
1919
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:52.800
that's fair. Yeah, anything there, No, you can't.
1920
01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.439
This is all just so next time we've.
1921
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.239
Had angels, we've had demons, and we can't talk too
1922
01:23:58.279 --> 01:23:59.600
much about what Anna's dealers.
1923
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:02.159
Just at the very beginning, she kind of gives me
1924
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:03.680
like a Joan of arc Vibe.
1925
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:06.359
Plus her last name Milton too. Is that is that
1926
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:09.840
in reference to an author like John John John Milton.
1927
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:10.960
It's probably John Milton.
1928
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:15.960
Yeah, Paradise Lost. Yeah, yeah, I do think that's meant
1929
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.720
to be a reference. Okay, maybe that's something I will
1930
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:20.600
look into next week.
1931
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:23.239
The IMDb trivia says, So.
1932
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.439
We trust the IMDb trivia with our fucking lives, like
1933
01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:31.159
anybody could add to it, but we trust it like
1934
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:31.600
it's real.
1935
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:35.960
So that brings us to low Light and Highlight. Low
1936
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:37.720
Light and Highlight plus episode.
1937
01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:41.159
Uh, low Light, I had something what was it? I
1938
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:43.279
don't know. I guess low Light and his parents died.
1939
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:48.239
That's just pretty sad it is. Yeah, Highlight is probably
1940
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:52.039
the maid that was Ruby's meat suit for a second.
1941
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:56.640
You had a good day after that, Carl, how about you.
1942
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.920
My low light would actually it's actually the start. It's
1943
01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:05.520
when some walk back into the motel after the Crossroads
1944
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:07.520
demon and he's kind of kind of like bouncing off
1945
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:08.680
the walls of the hall.
1946
01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:10.520
It's like a little bit too intoxicated.
1947
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:14.600
Yeah, but like the pain is just like it hurts
1948
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:19.720
to watch football and I yeah, highlight. Yeah, probably made Ruby,
1949
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:21.800
to be fair, she was fun. I'd like hush, like
1950
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:26.640
more Maine Ruby. Yeah, just like sassy people, Sandra, how
1951
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:26.920
about you.
1952
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:29.960
I really didn't have any low lights because I was
1953
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:32.319
taking it more of like how well the you know,
1954
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:34.600
like the episode flowed and stuff, So I kind of
1955
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.000
would have focused more on that as to just what didn't.
1956
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:40.039
I felt like work, that's how we go. Yeah, but
1957
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.600
I had a couple like little mini highlights. I liked
1958
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.760
when the boys walked up porch steps to Anna's house
1959
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:46.479
because they were like in sync. I thought that was
1960
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:47.079
super cute.
1961
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.760
I like, I liked Uh.
1962
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:53.399
I did like the first aid treatment episode because it's
1963
01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:56.680
the scene it's so indicative of conversations that we've had
1964
01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:58.920
before about what the boys are know and don't know,
1965
01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.680
and I just thought that was great. The mad scene
1966
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:05.479
was definitely like my favorite favorite funny scene. Yeah, and
1967
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:08.560
just like the introduction of Alistair, I really liked.
1968
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:09.319
I liked that.
1969
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.199
I liked that character like immediately, like just kind of
1970
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.560
like taking over, just being really like off but in
1971
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:17.920
a really like villainy kind of way. I just liked
1972
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.000
all of that about about about that character.
1973
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.800
So I really enjoy villains who like joy.
1974
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:29.880
Yeah, it up because my love light is Alistair, and
1975
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:33.720
he's so overpowered compared to the other demons we've had, Like,
1976
01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:36.479
I just think I think this would work better if
1977
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:38.560
we hadn't just had Sam Hayne like two episodes ago.
1978
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.840
Yeah, I mean compared to Sam Hayne, he's very overpowered.
1979
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:43.520
I also just find his character.
1980
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:46.319
I mean, I love I love a good villain as well,
1981
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:50.199
and I think he's a great villain, But I I
1982
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:51.319
just hate him.
1983
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.720
I hate what he did, what he does to say
1984
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:57.680
this episode, I think what we're gonna learn he's done.
1985
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:02.640
Absolutely, Yeah, I hate him my highlight.
1986
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:06.079
Yeah. I hate what he does to Ruby later too, Yeah,
1987
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:07.039
yeah that.
1988
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:08.239
Too, my highlight.
1989
01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:11.439
I'm a I'm a booby manipulator stamp.
1990
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.039
I like my Sammy a little bit crazy and dark side,
1991
01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.199
and she's always responsible for that, and I'm gonna go
1992
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:21.319
with my highlight being the coma girl sequence. Okay, she's
1993
01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:24.199
waking up from the coma and then bringing the doctors
1994
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.720
uh like chart to Stam to be like, look, I'm
1995
01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:28.239
just me.
1996
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:31.359
Call CPS.
1997
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:34.479
I think we're more or less okay with our standard
1998
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:35.199
call on John.
1999
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:37.159
There's something like we've learned in this episode that we
2000
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:40.880
need to add to our reports CPS. There's no additional
2001
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.680
maybe not CPS, but like we still get like some
2002
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:49.760
like child therapist in for the Lilith vessel that got abandoned. Yeah,
2003
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:52.720
just like small she like maybe looks like she was
2004
01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:56.159
ten mm hmm. Yeah, maybe we should just like make
2005
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:57.920
sure she's okay, but like you don't eat call CPS
2006
01:27:58.000 --> 01:27:59.800
like that was not our parents' fault. She got us
2007
01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:03.439
by lolis. Yeah yeah, firing squad people who did not
2008
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:05.640
from their job duties. It's not a lot of this
2009
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.239
in the episode, really, but like I feel like maybe
2010
01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:10.199
it should be harder for Anna to break out of
2011
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:11.680
the psychiatric care something.
2012
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.039
Anna superpowers, but there's.
2013
01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:16.840
Got to be other people that are in this hospital
2014
01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:19.279
that are capable of knocking out one nurse and then
2015
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:20.119
just walking out.
2016
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:24.880
Yeah, yeah, it's harder than that. And you now that
2017
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:27.600
you've mentioned that, I'm thinking of like the potential we
2018
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.199
like fight scene we could have had that would have
2019
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:33.800
just made Anna seem even more like an anomaly. Yeah,
2020
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:36.000
like yeah, but like it's just.
2021
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:38.000
Got to be harder than that for like people to
2022
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:39.439
get out of this place, because like there are gonna
2023
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:40.640
be people in this place who don't.
2024
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:43.479
Want to be here exactly. It's gotta to be more difficult.
2025
01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:45.439
I mean, maybe they just like didn't maybe they didn't
2026
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.079
think Anna was violent so they didn't bother taking any
2027
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.079
of those other measures, but she did seem like really
2028
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:53.560
over medicated, as we said, So I don't know, I
2029
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:55.560
just feel like it should be harder to get out
2030
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:57.520
even if you do. Man, I should knock out the
2031
01:28:57.560 --> 01:28:59.079
one nurse, but you meant you shouldn't be able to
2032
01:28:59.159 --> 01:28:59.600
walk out it.
2033
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:07.079
After Yeah, yeah, she was clearly impatient clothes as well, stations.
2034
01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:12.880
No should like it shouldn't it should be hurder And
2035
01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:16.039
you're totally right, And I really want that scene now,
2036
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:17.760
like I could. It would be really cool to watch
2037
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.680
her breakout of the hospital and just to pare the audience.
2038
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:22.960
There should be more staff. I think it's the thing.
2039
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:24.680
It's not so much that people didn't do their job,
2040
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:27.199
is that there isn't enough staff available to do their job.
2041
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.079
We should be funding these hospitals better mental health check.
2042
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.640
I'm not a psychologists faced clearly on my own opinions
2043
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:35.319
because of mind, if you're stalking with ay, they'll please
2044
01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:36.960
reach out for help. This week was a big old
2045
01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:39.159
reread flag we're going mental health. We're gonna skip Anna
2046
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.319
for now because our mental illness is actually just like
2047
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.720
supernatural ship, so it's not even mental illness, so we're
2048
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:44.479
not gonna worry about it.
2049
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:44.880
Damn.
2050
01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.159
On the other hand, he's doing great.
2051
01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:50.640
Yeah, well yeah, I also think where you should just
2052
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:52.359
give over Dean. I don't have much to say with
2053
01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:54.720
a Jean as far as mental health goes. I think,
2054
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:56.800
but he's just kind of like managing new information. I
2055
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.640
think he's doing okay. But Sam is clearly in persists
2056
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:03.880
for them majority of this episode, openly suicidal at various points,
2057
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.640
putting himself into harmful situations as a result. And this
2058
01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:08.279
is why he was supposed to say with Bobby after
2059
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:10.680
he died. He was supposed to stay with Bobby so
2060
01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:13.319
that when he was doing this insane shit like being
2061
01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:17.079
really drunk or being like digging up crossroads and shiit like.
2062
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:18.119
Bobby was supposed to be there.
2063
01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:18.840
Yeah.
2064
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.199
Yeah, Sam's in a really bad place.
2065
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:23.560
I don't I don't know what else there is really
2066
01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:26.000
to say, as I feel like Sam's suicidal and it's
2067
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:26.479
not good.
2068
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:29.079
I feel like it it was very parallel to to
2069
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:31.479
like Mystery Spot, so it kind of like gives you
2070
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:33.359
more of an indication ast to like you know where
2071
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:34.600
his head was going.
2072
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:39.279
To Like that Mystery Spot Flashback was technically longer than
2073
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.920
Dean actually was dead for when Deane actually did end
2074
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.159
up dying permanently, like Sam lived through that six months
2075
01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.640
and like went pretty off the rails then too. So
2076
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:49.960
I feel like this really is consistent with that, Like
2077
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:52.479
it's the exact same thing like Sam was. Sam didn't
2078
01:30:52.520 --> 01:30:54.399
want to keep living. He just wanted to hunt down
2079
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:56.920
the trickster slash. Yeah, the tricks star I can't Yeah,
2080
01:30:57.079 --> 01:30:59.279
or we were for a second, Yeah, I just wanted
2081
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:01.760
to hunt down the tricks are and and he doesn't
2082
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:04.039
really care about anything else. And then this is basically
2083
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:06.319
the same thing as as Lilith. It's in place of
2084
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:09.159
the Tricks, Sam doesn't care about living. He just wants
2085
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:12.880
to find Lilith and like maybe die in the process.
2086
01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:14.680
Yeah, of self sacrificing and.
2087
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:17.479
Dean and get Dean back.
2088
01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:22.920
Not good, not surprising, but not good at soul transactions.
2089
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:25.199
Sam tried to do one in this episode.
2090
01:31:24.840 --> 01:31:27.680
But not all Winchester soul to create equal one when
2091
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:29.800
John for one Dean one, Dean for one Sam one,
2092
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:32.279
Sam for absolutely nothing. The demons don't want him maybe
2093
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:33.920
things they don't need to buy Sam soul.
2094
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:35.119
I've applause that this.
2095
01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:37.520
We know that Sam's using his powers, and the Angels
2096
01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:38.960
at the very least are like he should not be
2097
01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:39.840
using these powers.
2098
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:40.680
They're not good.
2099
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.199
Do you think the angels aren't or the demons aren't
2100
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:45.680
interested in buying Sam soul? Not because like they just
2101
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:47.640
like want to fuck with Sam, but also because like
2102
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:49.000
they don't need to buy Sam soul.
2103
01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:51.880
He's just gonna go to hell anyway. Also, we're already
2104
01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:55.439
established that he was supposed to lead like a demon army.
2105
01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:58.840
Mean, yeah, you know we're not going to pay for
2106
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:01.880
something we already have, you know, Yeah, Sam's destined for.
2107
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.520
Us anyways, Why buy the cow when you could get
2108
01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:05.319
the milk tree?
2109
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:06.159
Why would we.
2110
01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:08.439
Buy your souls when you do such a good job.
2111
01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:11.680
Yeah, yeah, we do know.
2112
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.079
We don't know a lot of details about like how
2113
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:16.000
souls go to heaven or hell. Like we do know
2114
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:17.479
for sure if you sell your soul you're going to help.
2115
01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:19.119
We don't know a lot beyond that, like how you
2116
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:21.720
get to not help, what happens if you don't sell yourself.
2117
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:23.880
We don't know what happens to ghosts after ghosts.
2118
01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:24.239
Have been dealt with.
2119
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:26.000
We don't know if the number of people that ghost
2120
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.720
killed before Sam, some hunter comes along and like sends
2121
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:30.439
them on, Like we don't know what that.
2122
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.439
We don't We just don't know anything about like what happens.
2123
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:35.640
But it does feel like, you know, it has been
2124
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:38.680
pretty well like set up, be like some sort of virtuing,
2125
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:42.000
Like a certain level of virtue gets you into heaven
2126
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:43.720
and a lack of virtue gets into a hell. And
2127
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.279
I feel like Sam's really just like doing some like
2128
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.600
insanely bad shit that like maybe big demons just don't
2129
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:50.520
need to buy yourself.
2130
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:52.319
Yeah, maybe it's fine.
2131
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:55.199
You just I don't want to ever think about Sam
2132
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.960
be doing Sam being quote like quote unquote bad enough
2133
01:32:58.000 --> 01:32:59.640
to go to hell. But like I do actually feel
2134
01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:02.800
like the like way that angels and demons measure badness,
2135
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.199
like maybe say music has powers is enough to get
2136
01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:07.319
him bar heaven maybe.
2137
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:11.000
All maybe all of his special children and mark for hell. Anyway, Yeah,
2138
01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:11.760
he already.
2139
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:14.239
Has the demon bloody in him, regardless of what else
2140
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:14.680
is happening.
2141
01:33:14.720 --> 01:33:16.520
Like he's had the demon bloody in him his whole life,
2142
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:18.479
so like, yeah, maybe it doesn't actually matter.
2143
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:20.279
Yeah, maybe maybe that's.
2144
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:24.800
Just why they're like yeah, because he's always actively just
2145
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:26.840
tell a soul pretty hard and nothing's happening.
2146
01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:27.640
Yeah.
2147
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:30.399
I would be really interested to read the terms and
2148
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:36.880
condition of demon soul trans think the demon refuse if
2149
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:40.239
you are making an offer of your soul. Yeah, yeah,
2150
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:41.960
but I just don't think it should be that way.
2151
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:43.439
I don't think that should be an option.
2152
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.359
I know it's an option in real life if you're
2153
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:48.439
trying to sell something, then the person you're trying to
2154
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:50.680
sell it to always has the option of refusing if
2155
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:51.640
they think it's a bad deal.
2156
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:53.840
I don't think it's going to be in the individual contract.
2157
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:56.000
I think that's a policy. Like it's like your boss,
2158
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:57.039
like you know where you have a.
2159
01:33:57.079 --> 01:34:01.319
Good like it's company policy policy takes that all deals.
2160
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.520
Yeah, maybe it makes it makes no sense.
2161
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:06.039
That would make it if Sam, if Sam's already supposed
2162
01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:07.520
to go to hell, that would make sense because they
2163
01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:10.319
wouldn't give Sam something if it's something they already have.
2164
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:13.000
But they also like probably wouldn't refuse a deal. Maybe
2165
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.159
just dealing with the Winchesters though, it's enough reason not
2166
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:17.279
to fucking sell to them, Like maybe like as a
2167
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:19.840
gentleman rule, they don't say fucking no, but like because
2168
01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:23.359
they've the Demon pretty shameless, like like Bella was a
2169
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:25.920
child who was in an abusive home, and like they're
2170
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:28.159
just like, yeah, sure you can sell your soul. You're
2171
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:32.239
not old enough to vote or or buy alcohol, but
2172
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:33.520
you can definitely sell your.
2173
01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:37.079
Soul for all eternity to get out of an abusive hustle.
2174
01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.760
So it feels like they aren't super scrupulous about like
2175
01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.359
where and when deals get made. So it does feel
2176
01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:44.920
like maybe it's just like specifically the Winchesters that like
2177
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:46.920
there's like you know what, not making a deal with
2178
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.880
them is actually more fucking annoying to them or like
2179
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:51.000
more devastating.
2180
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:54.439
The Demon also mentioned that they like Dean where he
2181
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:56.640
was so maybe that was part of it, Like, yeah,
2182
01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:58.840
that sell to Sam will be losing this.
2183
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.760
Yeah, yeah, it's not worth it, especially if Sam's like
2184
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:05.359
not actually needed to sell a soul to go to hell,
2185
01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:06.159
Like it's not worth it.
2186
01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:09.760
No, exactly, Yeah they do, just the buyer thinking this
2187
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.399
is a bad deal. I'm not gonna take it.
2188
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:13.319
Yeah, they do have Dee where they want them, which
2189
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:16.600
is the other thing. Sam's traumatic brainery. Sam's head's oddly
2190
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:19.000
fine in this episode. Usually if they chucked Sam dance
2191
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:21.119
stairs and out of a second story window, he'd have
2192
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:21.720
a head trauma.
2193
01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:24.359
But he was good. He was good physically. Yeah, his
2194
01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:25.720
head's fine, that's fine.
2195
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:27.800
He's got some mental health and she's fine. But like
2196
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:28.920
he didn't get knocked out once.
2197
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:30.600
This whole episode is good.
2198
01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.159
It's super good. Even at tends On. You don't even
2199
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:35.399
get kaots if you jump out of like the second
2200
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:35.880
story of.
2201
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.000
The Yeah, team's got just like my shoulder, Sam's got
2202
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:39.800
like one cut that's bad enough for us to see
2203
01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:41.039
him getting stitches.
2204
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.039
Like the legs, who's head of them?
2205
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:46.399
Nope, broken ribs, just broken pride.
2206
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:48.680
Yeah, they didn't break any bones like on landing, Like
2207
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:52.399
no ankles, no, wrists nothing, It's like, didn't catch Themselve
2208
01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:58.119
states somehow a full body absorbed that impact. Anyways, the hostages,
2209
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:01.039
this whole episode was a series of out the hostages moment,
2210
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:03.720
so stepping Anna in the closets. Luckily rub we can
2211
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:06.720
go slash take Anna wherever whenever, so it wasn't really
2212
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:07.319
an issue.
2213
01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:09.479
But yeah, so it wasn't like a.
2214
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.239
Full on, like addop the hostages and they happened moment,
2215
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:13.960
but there was a lot of, uh, Anna is a
2216
01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.920
hostage basically, and we're just going to keep shoving her
2217
01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:19.359
into closets and hope for the best while we're busy.
2218
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.640
It's not the idea of treating her like a vact
2219
01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:22.439
and cleaner.
2220
01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:24.279
I mean really putting her away.
2221
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:25.479
That's really funny.
2222
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.640
One and one time with Cass it's zero zero this week.
2223
01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:31.279
The one scene that Cass was in, he brought Uriel
2224
01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:34.640
to have a group chat. So no no side conversations
2225
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:36.800
with Sam or Dean in a chat. But you brought
2226
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.399
your stupid brother Samy and have not had a one
2227
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:42.800
on one scene together yet. It has not happened yet,
2228
01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:45.399
and we're nine episodes into having casts.
2229
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:46.159
But that's okay.
2230
01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:49.359
There's time Cass's powers. He blew the fuck off the
2231
01:36:49.439 --> 01:36:53.600
door a new power per se. It's it's really the
2232
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:56.199
same power as like the like lifting the roof off
2233
01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:59.079
the barn and the O G Barn scene, but it's
2234
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:02.039
enough to declar that dramatic entrance is the power slash
2235
01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:03.279
skill that cast possesses.
2236
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.359
I think he puts extra thought into.
2237
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:07.159
Into dramatic entrances.
2238
01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:09.800
I agree, I would do that if I had his covers.
2239
01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:15.520
And yeah, but you can just blow it off, Yeah, yeah,
2240
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:16.079
blow it off.
2241
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.560
So then we have our next segment, which is name
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01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:19.199
the episode.
2243
01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:22.399
Anybody have any name suggestions for this episode?
2244
01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:27.720
The one West sm gets laid so infrequently that it
2245
01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:29.840
deserves the whole episode name to itself.
2246
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.039
It's gotten laid for this though. So the one where
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01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:34.079
he gets laid again.
2248
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:36.520
Yeah, there you go. The sequels, the one where gets
2249
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:39.840
laid again Part two, Electric Boulu.
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01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:46.279
Anyone else additionals the one with the angel radio.
2251
01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:48.399
I just kept going back to the one with the
2252
01:37:48.479 --> 01:37:50.399
French fries because it's the French frise were a big
2253
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:52.920
thing for Ruby, So I just kept thinking about that
2254
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:54.760
because French fries wouldn't go out of my brain.
2255
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:56.760
So the one where Ruby wants French fries.
2256
01:37:56.920 --> 01:38:01.600
Yeah yeah, really badly, similar to merediths. I also had
2257
01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:05.359
the one with the angel radio girl. I also had
2258
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:11.359
the one where Ruby recycles, like the one we're saying
2259
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.520
sex with the demon, and the one where Jared hooks
2260
01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:15.439
up with this future wife.
2261
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:18.880
It's his favorite season as well.
2262
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:22.000
I can't think why it's always nothing to do with
2263
01:38:22.119 --> 01:38:23.720
me and the woman he was gonna have three children.
2264
01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.359
Jenson gives him so much ship, like on all punnels
2265
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:29.760
when they're like, what was your favorite seasons film and
2266
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:32.359
he's like a Gentsen straight and not the one where
2267
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:35.279
you met your wife, like the one where I met
2268
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:39.680
my wife, when.
2269
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:41.039
It's either like not the one where you met you
2270
01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:45.319
like specifically excluded, or like if they don't specifically exclude it.
2271
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:48.399
Sometimes Jensen will also say if Jared's answer for him
2272
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:58.000
was like, honest, Jared's just really lucky that the food
2273
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:01.159
poisoning incident didn't happen on the same week because that
2274
01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.560
was like last episode was the like Jared food poisoning story.
2275
01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:07.640
He's really lucky that wasn't on a week when he
2276
01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:09.119
was meeting.
2277
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:13.680
Uh Jen right which in the early which episode.
2278
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:14.600
Was so wishing well.
2279
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:17.399
Yeah, when he ate the ribs, Yeah, when he ate
2280
01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:17.840
the ribs.
2281
01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.239
Yeah, I really know that that wasn't like a gen
2282
01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:24.800
on set week. Yeah, that's not going to impress her.
2283
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.960
Anyway. To finish off the episode, we have line of
2284
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:31.800
the week, Meredith, would you like to start?
2285
01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:32.880
You have fun ready to go?
2286
01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:34.159
I do? I.
2287
01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:38.319
I love the line where Alistair's wearing. Alistair's like, don't
2288
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:43.239
you recognize me? Oh? I forgot I'm wearing a pediatricians
2289
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:44.880
our vessel like by occupation.
2290
01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:47.039
Like even when they did that this episode, she's like
2291
01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:48.800
Sam's like, who are you wearing? And she doesn't say
2292
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:51.239
anything about the person, and she's like she's a secretary.
2293
01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:54.520
Yeah, like some fast food worker.
2294
01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:57.800
Wasn't wasn't yellow eyes, it's o g vessel.
2295
01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:01.199
Also a pediatrician. Maybe they just haven't fa pediatrician.
2296
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:05.319
Yeah, baby child.
2297
01:40:10.359 --> 01:40:12.640
But it's also funny. It's also funny because I'm just
2298
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:18.439
smaging those two characters like asiatrician, Like there're two of
2299
01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:20.600
the creepiest vessels we've seen so far.
2300
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:24.000
Yeah, I know, I'm pretty sure that was what fred
2301
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:27.479
Riclain's like character like human, we never see him as
2302
01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:29.640
a human, but like I'm like pretty sure that he
2303
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:31.239
was supposed to be a pediatrician as well.
2304
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:34.159
That's just hilarious to me, like talking like that with
2305
01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:37.760
that voice. She was a seven year old man. Actually,
2306
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:41.359
I think with Alistair, that's not his actor's natural voice,
2307
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.039
because I've seen him in a few other places and
2308
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:45.359
he talks very differently there, So I think that was
2309
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:47.640
it was partly a voice that he was just doing.
2310
01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:50.039
It's weird though, because like the other actor, that is
2311
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:51.159
kind of just his voice.
2312
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:54.199
Yeah, and like that, and maybe that's maybe when they.
2313
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:56.800
Recast they specifically look for someone who could do that voice.
2314
01:40:56.840 --> 01:41:00.000
And this guy's close. I don't know, everybody's just already
2315
01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:04.239
like that. It's like Christopher tire Doll or something. He's
2316
01:41:04.239 --> 01:41:05.479
been in a bunch of other places.
2317
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:09.159
Yeah, Chris Hidehol's not his actual his actual voice.
2318
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:10.640
Carly, you haven't gone yet, right, I didn't.
2319
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:11.039
He's just.
2320
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:15.520
Mine was mine? Was actually the same line I forgot
2321
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:16.920
if I'm wearing a pediatrician.
2322
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:19.000
It's a good line, it is.
2323
01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:20.760
Yeah, it is, Santra, how about you?
2324
01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:24.359
I went with and your Dean the Dean. That was
2325
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:25.239
my favorite line.
2326
01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:25.960
I really like.
2327
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:29.560
Mine is actually from The Nameless Crossroad.
2328
01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:32.199
Stephen, it's, uh, you want to make a deal, and
2329
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:34.680
Ran and Rand the Winchester's go sorry, Sam, that's not
2330
01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:37.760
gonna happen. That was good because, like, yeah, it really
2331
01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:40.840
sunk in for me. That was when I went, oh,
2332
01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:42.800
all of the Winchesters except for Sam, I've made a
2333
01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:44.399
deal up to this point, Like this is what the
2334
01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:47.039
Winchesters do. This is what the Winchesters are known for now,
2335
01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:48.920
Like does it matter that they've been like out here
2336
01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:51.279
like fucking slaying monsters left and right for twenty years.
2337
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:52.680
They're the dudes that make deals.
2338
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:55.720
Yeah, They're the family that like fucked up the natural order.
2339
01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:59.399
Yeah, And like it's it's becoming a joke.
2340
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:02.520
It's like it's undermining their reputation as being scary at
2341
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:05.319
this point, like they're being seen as pathetic for it.
2342
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:07.439
I was like, oh, that is hitting me. It's really
2343
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:07.800
hitting me.
2344
01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:10.479
It really hit me this time around, like we had
2345
01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:12.680
the out of context now like Mary also made a deal.
2346
01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:15.039
Because's not just John and Dean that have made deals.
2347
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:17.239
Mary also we now know has made a deal in
2348
01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:19.439
the past with the demon. Like it's really getting out
2349
01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:19.800
of hands.
2350
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:23.479
I did interpret it that line a different way, though
2351
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.079
I interpreted it less. So with the family background, I'm
2352
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:28.399
all that, oh, someone's gonna trade this self being Dean
2353
01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:32.920
would come back immediately and it would just continue to side.
2354
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:35.680
It would just be locked in that forever. That was
2355
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:36.840
the show exactly.
2356
01:42:37.159 --> 01:42:40.239
Yeah, yeah, I didn't say it that way, but yeah,
2357
01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:44.520
I also like meant that both all of all of
2358
01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:47.000
the above, all of the above, like that was Yeah.
2359
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:49.000
I was like, oh, like this is this is like
2360
01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:49.439
what the.
2361
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:53.800
Winchesters do now, yea, like self sacrificed like a lot.
2362
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:56.479
Yeah, and like there's no stopping we We have had
2363
01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:58.279
conversations about how many times you could do that for
2364
01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:00.680
each other and like it does seemed to be up
2365
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:03.079
to the uns. But yeah, again, what's the corporate policy
2366
01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:07.039
on that? Yeah, one is the question policy on how
2367
01:43:07.079 --> 01:43:08.760
many times? How many times can you resell your soul?
2368
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:10.760
I think once, maybe twice and get away the but
2369
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.159
I think like once each because like then after that
2370
01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:16.079
you've both sold your soul, like haven't like you've committed
2371
01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:17.880
your soul to hell at that point, like you don't
2372
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:18.840
get to undo that.
2373
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.560
It's probably like several times where demons are just like okay,
2374
01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:23.520
this is get excessive.
2375
01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:25.319
It's like you know how the value of a car
2376
01:43:25.439 --> 01:43:27.199
goes down every time, like you know, it's just.
2377
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:30.600
Like that's the whole Soldiers action thing is because the
2378
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:31.640
end of the show, I want to be able to
2379
01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:34.039
be like, okay, aside from aside from the Winchesters, but
2380
01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:36.159
like for the average other people who are making deals
2381
01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:37.800
in the show, what the fuck can I buy with
2382
01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:39.760
a soul like I can buy I'm gonna know, I'm
2383
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.960
gonna be able to say, like defatively, this is I
2384
01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:45.399
can get X y Z for the value of a new.
2385
01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:50.039
You can get seventeen butterflies. I want to figure out
2386
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:50.960
its exact value.
2387
01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.159
But anyway, that's all I have for this week. So, Meredith,
2388
01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:55.560
where can.
2389
01:43:55.520 --> 01:44:01.960
People find you with the seventeen butterflies? It's Danira at Tumblr,
2390
01:44:02.279 --> 01:44:04.960
Instagram and sometimes TikTok and if you go there. So
2391
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:07.840
it's a really cool drawings for the fantasy series I'm writing.
2392
01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:09.880
Woo excellent and Santa College.
2393
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:12.039
You want to go together? Do you want to go separately?
2394
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:13.199
Do you want me to go?
2395
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:13.720
Yeah?
2396
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:15.319
Yeah, you do all the things? Good?
2397
01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:17.960
No, because don you's gotta listen to the podcast.
2398
01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:22.159
You need to find us editing kJ here one last time,
2399
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:26.000
and I just want topic cases. Social media is also
2400
01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:30.239
have change and you can find them. Sam is my
2401
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:34.000
safe word on both Tumblr and A three. On Tumblr
2402
01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:38.239
is dashes between the words, and on A three it
2403
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:41.560
is underscores between the words. But Sam is my safe
2404
01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:43.199
word on both of those places.
2405
01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:44.800
Standard Where can people find you?
2406
01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:47.199
Well, I mean you can find both of us if
2407
01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:50.039
you just go to idling Indianpala dot com. You'll get
2408
01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:53.119
all of our affirmation that way. But if they're interested
2409
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:56.119
in my AO three, I'm under Drasna, it's just Sandra
2410
01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:59.439
mixed up. And then on Tumblr, I'm Tall Tales and
2411
01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:02.439
Bedtimes Stories. So yeah, I won't bother with Twitter because
2412
01:45:02.439 --> 01:45:03.439
I don't use it that much anymore.
2413
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:03.760
Anyway.
2414
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:05.880
We still have a Twitter account and it's all on
2415
01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:08.239
me idling Indianpola dot com website.
2416
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:10.479
Yeah, I will definitely make sure I like your website
2417
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:10.960
for sure.
2418
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:11.840
Subscription.
2419
01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:15.119
That is why right that when I went we don't
2420
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:18.520
do shit, I co host. I don't even think about
2421
01:45:18.560 --> 01:45:19.479
wrapping the podcast.
2422
01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:22.479
That's pretty much our relationship.
2423
01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:26.359
Yeah yeah, Okay, next week we're going to be back
2424
01:45:26.399 --> 01:45:28.239
to you talk about season four, Episode ten, Heaven a
2425
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.399
hell and finish off this because yeah, it's really just
2426
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:31.800
like an unfinished episode.
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Designs dot CA. The episode was recorded and produced by
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me Eding kJ. If you want to hear more from me,
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