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Welcome to Sunset Conversations, a BullfrogEntertainment
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.com production. I am your host, Papa Mark Lichterman,
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along with my partner, production coordinator,
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Mark Florkowski. On the 15th and 30th of each
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month, we will present you with an interesting
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and entertaining topic. One exception, that pesky
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February will be the 28th. Our podcast is a mixed
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bag of our daily life experiences as they relate
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to us and all of you. We look at personal observations.
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These may include such topics as fruits, coffee,
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teenage relationships with grandparents, traffic,
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vacations, daily frustrations, and joys. Our
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goal is to show the audience how ridiculous,
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silly, and of course joyful our lives can be.
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Each episode will end with a big smile like when
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eating ice cream. Please enjoy our Sunset Conversations
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as we take you through the journey of life. Send
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info at BullfrogEntertainment .com And we're
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running. Run, Napoleon, run. They're going to
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catch us. Look at those gigantic front teeth.
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The super French warrior, Napoleon, well, he
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thought he was going on a rabbit hunt. The bizarre
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truth is he was attacked by the rabbits. Bugs
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Bunny would be super proud of his ancestors.
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Yeah, what's up, Doc? You know what, we all know
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the bits and pieces. We are taught about history.
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Well, today's history lesson will look at the
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later side, the bizarre side of history. How
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a hot dog became known as a hot dog, the world's
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oldest recipe. Where'd that come from? What is
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it? Or what past president is in the wrestling
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hall of fame? I want to Google that. This is
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the type of history that can help to open conversations.
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The later side of life. the jeopardy life questions
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and answers. They say history repeats itself.
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Well, I don't know of any others who got chased
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by the very rabbits they were hunting. Anyhow,
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let's see what we can learn. And away we go.
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So, Mark, I know you actually know of this person
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as well. A great storyteller of bizarre tales
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is Paul Harvey. Yeah, I think you're going to
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be following in his footsteps, Mark. Thank you.
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He was famous for what he called the rest of
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the story. To our listeners, if you're not aware
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of who he was, take a minute and Google him.
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I think you might find him interesting. You will.
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One of his tales is how the term hot dog came
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about. He explains all the different types of
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sausage that were created. and he reviews the
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various names of those sausage. Now, some will
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dispute his story. Paul Harvey said that the
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term hot dog was coined by sports cartoonist
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Ted Dorgan, or T .A. Dorgan, in 1905. And for
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whatever reason, I tend to believe Paul Harvey's
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version because I like it better. Now, according
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to Harvey's retelling, Dorgan was present at
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the New York Polo grounds when a vendor was selling
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red -hot dachshund sausage. Well, unable to spell
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dachshund, and I can understand that, Dorgan
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hastily captioned his newspaper cartoon with
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the words, hot dog, so that he can make the deadline,
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thus creating the term and cementing that in
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today's popular culture. Yeah, you gotta like
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Paul Harvey. I remember him when I was younger.
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He was really cool on the radio. Every story
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he ended, and now you know the rest of the story.
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The awesome stories. Yeah, Dax Hound. D -O -X
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-H -O -U -N -D. All right. What else do you got
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for us? Well, I think I might have brought this
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up in the introduction. I can't remember. But
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George Washington, we all know George Washington.
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Oh yeah. What we may not know is he established
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a distillery at Mount Vernon. Here's a date,
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and I told you once a long time ago, dates will
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pop up. Oh, I love dates, go ahead, shoot. In
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1797. Hey, that's 228 years ago. And he was encouraged
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to do this by his farm manager. This is the smart
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guy. George was pretty good too, but James Anderson
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is the guy that told him, you should do this,
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George. Yeah, I can get in trouble with our listeners.
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We'll just say that James Anderson was very an
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influencer of George. Very influential. Initially
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skeptical, Washington soon saw impressive results.
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And by 1799, his distillery was producing 11
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,000 gallons of whiskey annually. Wow, that's
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a lot of dollars. That's making it the largest
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in America at the time. That's pretty crazy.
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This enterprise had its significant income, yes,
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lasted until 1814. And today it's preserved and
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partially restored as a historical site with,
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of course, whiskey sales supporting its ongoing
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educational mission. Glad to know the founder
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of our country was such an entrepreneur. Isn't
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that something? That's history. Yeah. And you
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know, I think I did mention, I know I mentioned
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Napoleon and the rabbit attack. Oh, yeah. We'll
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go a little further in that story. Now you'll
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know the rest of the story. All right, Paul.
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In July 1807, after the treaties of Tilsit, Napoleon's
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chief of staff. arranged a celebratory rabbit
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hunt with hundreds, heck, possibly thousands,
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of rabbits. Let's not forget they were tame rabbits.
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These rabbits, the whole thing went south when
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these hungry rabbits that, yes, were tame, were
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expecting food. Uh -oh. They swarmed Napoleon
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and his party instead of fleeing. Imagine this.
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Hundreds or thousands of rabbits. The bunnies
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overwhelmed the group. forcing Napoleon, the
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big brave Napoleon to retreat to his coach with
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the rabbits even following him and jumping inside
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with him. Now that's insane and bizarre. Wow.
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History is stranger than fiction. It's crazy.
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All right, Mark, let's keep on going with some
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weird food tales. All right. Well, let's start
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this out with the sneeze cheese incident in the
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17th century of Italy. There was a cheese maker
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and this cheese maker became famous for what
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they called his magical cheeses. They had streaks
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of unusual mold. It's getting bizarre. The truth
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was revealed. you had a violent sneezing disorder,
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and some batches accidentally got seasoned, let's
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say. Whoa. Whoa. But locals swore that it added
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character to his cheeses. That's gross. Put a
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little cheese on the cracker, why don't you?
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I still have some cheese. Oh my god. I don't
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even want to think about pizza anymore. Well,
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now that was really bizarre. Yep. This isn't
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quite as bizarre, but... Very interesting, and
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it's, again, unusual history. Banana ketchup
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from the Philippines. Now, there's something
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I want to hear more about. During World War II,
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there was a tomato shortage, so the Philippines,
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Filipinos, invented banana ketchup. Yep, ketchup
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made from mashed bananas. Wow. They added vinegar,
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they added spices, and... Actually, it's still
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popular today and I have tried some I would imagine
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some of the grocery stores that sell weird foods
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There's a story with a name like that It tastes
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actually nothing like bananas at all Wow. Yeah
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a type of a ketchup. Well, thanks for sharing
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that one We're gonna have to do a little footwork
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and go find a grocery store. Yeah That's one
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world market, world market. I'm thinking there's
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a good place to start. I bet has it. So again,
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it's not quite as bizarre, but let's get back
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into the bizarre. The Victorians, we know about
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the Victorian days. Those people were a little
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bizarre. They had a obsession with jelly. They
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loved to put anything and everything into gelatin
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molds. Oh, it's good for you. Vegetables in the
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mold. meats in the mole, even a whole fish. Imagine
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that, a whole fish. At fancy dinners, you'd be
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dazzled by what looked like a shimmering ruby
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red dessert, only to cut inside and find chicken
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gizzards staring back at you. You know, I prefer
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mine breaded and crispy. Yes. I don't want gelatin
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anywhere near my chicken gizzards. No, no. I
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haven't even gotten past trying to eat sardines.
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We'll put gelatin in a mold that looks like a
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fish, but there ain't no fish in that gelatin.
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Okay. And yet pickled fish, which I have had,
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is awesome in a pickled gelatin. So who knows
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so does that count for herring? Yeah, herring
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is right, you know, okay So again, we're all
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a little bizarre. Yeah. All right Once again
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one more there's a there was a king who once
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talked about how coffee was cursed by those who
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were Bosses in charge. I don't see you have a
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good future This guy he's the king he cursed
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coffee in the 1500s He was an Ottoman sultan,
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Murad IV, and he outlawed coffee under penalty
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of death. Convinced it was corrupting society.
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Oh yeah. They're all sitting around talking about
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the king, the Ottoman guy, while they're drinking
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coffee, yes. Well, he had a solution. Sneak around
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Istanbul, which is where this was occurring,
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in a disguise, with a massive sword. Now that's
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kind of weird. You're disguised, but you're walking
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around with this massive sword and personally
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dispatched anyone caught sipping a cup. So yes,
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he was the coffee police. Oh my gosh. We're going
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to go to the next segment. Weird people tales.
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How about that one? And I'm going to take this
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first guy. Mark and thank you very much for giving
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me her at a status. Yeah, you said that well
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Here are stratus Famous arsonist this guy goes
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back to 356 before the common era bce So this
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guy burned down the temple of Artemis and like
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who I don't like who is Artemis So I had to look
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this up and she's from Greek mythology. Mm -hmm
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the virgin goddess of the hunt of wild nature,
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chastity and the moon. Wow, it's not your everyday
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patron of the temple. So there we go. She's also
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the twin sister of Apollo and the daughter of
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Zeus. Oh, Zeus, that's big time trouble. So what's
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this guy's motivation, right? Why would he burn
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down this goddess's temple? Just so he can make
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a name for himself? Whoa. I don't think it takes
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much sense to figure out that the authorities
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of the time decided, not only the dispatch of
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him, I don't even want to look up how he died,
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but just by saying his name, you could be arrested
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and what they did in olden days, they erased
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him. If his name was mentioned anywhere in stone,
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it was erased. Tablet it was erased. It was in
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a scroll the scroll was burned. The guy was basically
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erased. Yes. Yes Well, I guess what we're still
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talking So we're going to give him the prize
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of being the first guy to go viral doing something
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dumb That's so cool. Good job. Herostratus. Herostratus
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Excellent. Well, let's see if I can I don't know
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I don't have to say I top that, but there's some
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more bizarre. I think you can top this one. That's
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the Pope who performed the corpse trial. This
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was about 500 years later after this other dude
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burned down the temple. This was in 897 BCE.
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Pope Stephen VI. He put his dead predecessor,
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Pope Formosus, on trial. He dressed the corpse
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up in papal robes. and propped him up on a throne.
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He began to interrogate him. Surprisingly, unsurprisingly,
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the corpse lost the trial. Oh, bad joke. Is it
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because he pled the fifth? Bad lawyer, pled the
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fifth. What's up with this guy? You lose. Great.
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Well, you know, that definitely tops. That is
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bizarre. That's bizarre. And then we have...
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That ain't bizarre enough. We got Charles VI,
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known as the Glass King of France. The Glass
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King. Well, he believed he was made of glass.
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So, of course, he was the Glass King. He refused
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to let anybody touch him. He wore reinforced
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clothing, and he freaked out if people came near
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him. Well, of course, they were going to break
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the glass. Imagine him trying to play a medieval
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game of tag. Instant meltdown by the king. Oh,
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absolutely He totally freaked out That is we
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have something about a weird nose or no nose.
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I think oh, you know, this is a guy who I couldn't
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pronounce his name so taiko brah and he had a
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prosthetic nose now this guy is a pretty interesting
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and famous guy as a Astronomer and he had a lot
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of findings that were, you know first person
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to discover this and that Mm -hmm science and
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astronomy But he lost a part of his nose in a
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duel You know what they say about poking your
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nose into somebody else's business So, you know
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the guy obviously was a man of means he found
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a way to replace it with a metal prosthetic You
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know and there are you know stories reports could
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have been gold or silver but private he sometimes
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switched His nose every day to an everyday nose,
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whatever that is So just look at this, you know,
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he goes to his dresser and he's got three noses
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in a little, you know, velvet tray. Oh my gosh
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So, you know, we're gonna give him the prize
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for being the guy who had a nose for wardrobe.
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Oh my god Or he could go out with no nose and
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a big hole between his eyes Well, for your for
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for bear fans, I think they could listen to this
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next story. All right, here we go. Lord Byron's
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pet bear at a university. Old Lord Byron, when
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he went to Cambridge, dogs were banned in a student
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housing. So what did he do? He brought a pet
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bear with him instead. Well, the college officials,
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when they protested, Byron insisted, there's
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no rule against bears. I got a feeling there
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probably is today. Well, I'll tell you what.
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I think the man was brilliant. He found the loophole,
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right? He found the loophole. He absolutely has
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a good future. That's totally... I think there's
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a lot of other good stories about Lurt Brain.
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I'll tell you. He's a smart man. I'm like sitting
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on the edge of my chair. We still haven't discovered
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who is the famous president who... Oh, old honest
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Abe the wrestler. Yes. Yes. Yes. Before Abraham
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Lincoln was the president, he was a top tier
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wrestler. All right. I mean, he wrestled around
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300 matches and he only lost once. Can you imagine
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this guy in the UFC? He'd probably, he'd probably
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be famous too. He was known once he grabbed the
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heckler in the crowd and he lifted him by the
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neck and tossed them several feet. utilizing
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those wrestling skills they have, obviously.
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And you might say, four score and seven throws
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ago. Way to go. That's a big one. Wow. Okay,
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Mark. I hear we've got a few more weird food
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tales. Yeah, we do. There's a few more bizarre
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food tales before we get to the conclusion. The
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famous conclusion. Alright, well, let's go back
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to the medieval days. Oh my favorite time meat
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meat water. I said that meat water in the Middle
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Ages those middle -aged people them and the Victorians
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I don't know people believed you could drink
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meat by boiling beef until the water captured
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the essence Yes, the essence the beef tea served
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to the nobles as a delicacy Hmm basically the
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original bullion cube just way grosser Yeah,
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now I have to also make a note. I mentioned the
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first recipe it's been said that the very first
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recipe that was ever created was Beer oh Yeah,
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that's gotta be a very old I'm sure there was
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an accidental thing somebody threw some thing
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in a pot and water rained and they said that's
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Hmm. Smells like it might be good. Let's drink
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it. Ah, beer. So that's just to cover that. I
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mean, that's important historical data. Goes
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along well with meat water. Better than that
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meat water. But since we're talking about water
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and product, back to ketchup. Okay. Not only
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can it be made from bananas, but ketchup back
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in the 1830s, an Ohio physician sold tomato ketchup
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as a miracle cure yep ketchup as a medicine for
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indigestion jauntice and get ready diarrhea we
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pharmacist stock ketchup pills oh might say Heinz
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was a little late to that party ketchup pills
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and one more from me right here back in the 1890s
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oh More bananas. The electric bananas! And back
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to the Victorians! They thought bananas... ...inducted
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electricity. Well, there you go. That's a wild
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story just in and of itself. This is bizarre.
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Yes? Some families rubbed banana peels on their
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skin. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hoping it would recharge them.
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Just like a Duracell battery. Oh my gosh. But
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history is stranger than fiction. This one tops
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them all. I don't know what the audience want.
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Weird stories, bizarre stories you have. Of course,
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we'd love to hear anything that you have, but
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Mark, I think you have one sticky wicked kind
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of bizarre story that you can tell us. Oh, gee
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whiz. Yeah, there's a story and it's called the
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Great Molasses Flood. It happened in Boston.
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Around the turn of the century. I think somewhere
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around the 1900s mm -hmm 1919 to be exact hmm
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now Boston had a massive storage tank that contained
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tons tons Like 12 ,000 tons of molasses and it
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broke open resulting in a wave that was estimated
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to be 25 feet high of sticky syrup molasses running
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through his streets. And you know, I know that
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all sounds really funny, but actually there were
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21 casualties. People lost their lives. And you
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know, no disrespect, but boy, I mean, I hope
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they weren't caught trying to drink all that
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molasses. So, you know. Guess how fast molasses
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can run through the street. They estimate it
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ran through the street at 35 miles an hour. So
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it absolutely swept you off your feet. You couldn't
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run away. So it became legendary, of course,
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and locals. would share that later on for years
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during, you know, hot summer days. It's still
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smell scent of molasses. Oh, I imagine. Yes.
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Again, it's history ever stranger than fiction.
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Oh, that is so I want to hear this next one that
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you're going to share with us about one final
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one before the conclusion. We've talked about
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ketchup and we've talked about bananas a lot.
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How can we leave out the carrot? Yeah, yeah the
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poor innocent carrot, but it's bizarre the carrot
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propaganda in World War two Yep, the British
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government spread propaganda that allied troops
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had superhuman night vision from eating carrots
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In reality though they were hiding the use of
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radar hmm the carrot craze that's so big people
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started putting carrots in everything even pudding
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oh my goodness i wonder about to put it in jello
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uh it's going way too far i don't know but it's
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it's it's i compliment you on the fact that not
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only is straight history stranger than fiction
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but we also started with bunnies and we're ending
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up with carrots there you go high five brilliant
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brilliant well here we are once again The conclusion.
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The conclusion to bizarre tales. Bizarre tales
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are of course events that are entertaining to
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hear and read about. They can be told by the
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actual person who experiences that tale. Many
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times they are part of history and told by others.
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I believe they contain facts. I really do. They
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can also be told to make a point. Make a point
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to say yes. For example, it is said George Washington
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never actually cut down the cherry tree. It is
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also said he was a person who believed strongly
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in honesty. Well, that tale helps to support
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that image. There you go. I take it as a fact.
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How about one more bizarre tale? This is, well,
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could be considered the most bizarre, at least
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of modern times. In 2015, It was a YouTuber,
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and he decided to make a chicken sandwich from
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scratch. I mean, really from scratch. He grew
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the wheat. He evaporated ocean water for salt.
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What? And he made the bread from the wheat that
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he grew. And of course, well, he had to raise
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the chicken. Oh, my goodness. It took him six
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months. $1 ,500. In the end? Get this. He said
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the sandwich was, quote, eh, not bad. Sometimes
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a sandwich is just a sandwich, no matter how
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epic or bizarre the journey. Gotcha. Thanks for
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Welcome to Sunset Conversations, a BullfrogEntertainment
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February will be the 28th. Our podcast is a mixed
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These may include such topics as fruits, coffee,
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goal is to show the audience how ridiculous,
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Each episode will end with a big smile like when
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running. Run, Napoleon, run. They're going to
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catch us. Look at those gigantic front teeth.
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The super French warrior, Napoleon, well, he
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thought he was going on a rabbit hunt. The bizarre
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truth is he was attacked by the rabbits. Bugs
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Bunny would be super proud of his ancestors.
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Yeah, what's up, Doc? You know what, we all know
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the bits and pieces. We are taught about history.
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Well, today's history lesson will look at the
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later side, the bizarre side of history. How
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a hot dog became known as a hot dog, the world's
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oldest recipe. Where'd that come from? What is
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it? Or what past president is in the wrestling
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hall of fame? I want to Google that. This is
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the type of history that can help to open conversations.
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The later side of life. the jeopardy life questions
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and answers. They say history repeats itself.
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Well, I don't know of any others who got chased
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by the very rabbits they were hunting. Anyhow,
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let's see what we can learn. And away we go.
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So, Mark, I know you actually know of this person
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as well. A great storyteller of bizarre tales
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is Paul Harvey. Yeah, I think you're going to
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be following in his footsteps, Mark. Thank you.
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He was famous for what he called the rest of
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the story. To our listeners, if you're not aware
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of who he was, take a minute and Google him.
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I think you might find him interesting. You will.
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One of his tales is how the term hot dog came
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about. He explains all the different types of
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sausage that were created. and he reviews the
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various names of those sausage. Now, some will
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dispute his story. Paul Harvey said that the
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term hot dog was coined by sports cartoonist
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Ted Dorgan, or T .A. Dorgan, in 1905. And for
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whatever reason, I tend to believe Paul Harvey's
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version because I like it better. Now, according
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to Harvey's retelling, Dorgan was present at
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the New York Polo grounds when a vendor was selling
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red -hot dachshund sausage. Well, unable to spell
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dachshund, and I can understand that, Dorgan
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hastily captioned his newspaper cartoon with
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the words, hot dog, so that he can make the deadline,
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thus creating the term and cementing that in
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today's popular culture. Yeah, you gotta like
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Paul Harvey. I remember him when I was younger.
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He was really cool on the radio. Every story
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he ended, and now you know the rest of the story.
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The awesome stories. Yeah, Dax Hound. D -O -X
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-H -O -U -N -D. All right. What else do you got
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for us? Well, I think I might have brought this
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up in the introduction. I can't remember. But
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George Washington, we all know George Washington.
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Oh yeah. What we may not know is he established
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a distillery at Mount Vernon. Here's a date,
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and I told you once a long time ago, dates will
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pop up. Oh, I love dates, go ahead, shoot. In
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1797. Hey, that's 228 years ago. And he was encouraged
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to do this by his farm manager. This is the smart
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guy. George was pretty good too, but James Anderson
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is the guy that told him, you should do this,
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George. Yeah, I can get in trouble with our listeners.
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We'll just say that James Anderson was very an
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influencer of George. Very influential. Initially
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skeptical, Washington soon saw impressive results.
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And by 1799, his distillery was producing 11
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,000 gallons of whiskey annually. Wow, that's
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a lot of dollars. That's making it the largest
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in America at the time. That's pretty crazy.
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This enterprise had its significant income, yes,
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lasted until 1814. And today it's preserved and
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partially restored as a historical site with,
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of course, whiskey sales supporting its ongoing
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educational mission. Glad to know the founder
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of our country was such an entrepreneur. Isn't
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that something? That's history. Yeah. And you
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know, I think I did mention, I know I mentioned
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Napoleon and the rabbit attack. Oh, yeah. We'll
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go a little further in that story. Now you'll
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know the rest of the story. All right, Paul.
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In July 1807, after the treaties of Tilsit, Napoleon's
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chief of staff. arranged a celebratory rabbit
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hunt with hundreds, heck, possibly thousands,
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of rabbits. Let's not forget they were tame rabbits.
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These rabbits, the whole thing went south when
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these hungry rabbits that, yes, were tame, were
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expecting food. Uh -oh. They swarmed Napoleon
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and his party instead of fleeing. Imagine this.
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Hundreds or thousands of rabbits. The bunnies
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overwhelmed the group. forcing Napoleon, the
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big brave Napoleon to retreat to his coach with
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the rabbits even following him and jumping inside
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with him. Now that's insane and bizarre. Wow.
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History is stranger than fiction. It's crazy.
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All right, Mark, let's keep on going with some
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weird food tales. All right. Well, let's start
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this out with the sneeze cheese incident in the
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17th century of Italy. There was a cheese maker
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and this cheese maker became famous for what
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they called his magical cheeses. They had streaks
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of unusual mold. It's getting bizarre. The truth
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was revealed. you had a violent sneezing disorder,
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and some batches accidentally got seasoned, let's
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say. Whoa. Whoa. But locals swore that it added
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character to his cheeses. That's gross. Put a
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little cheese on the cracker, why don't you?
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I still have some cheese. Oh my god. I don't
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even want to think about pizza anymore. Well,
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now that was really bizarre. Yep. This isn't
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quite as bizarre, but... Very interesting, and
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it's, again, unusual history. Banana ketchup
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from the Philippines. Now, there's something
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I want to hear more about. During World War II,
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there was a tomato shortage, so the Philippines,
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Filipinos, invented banana ketchup. Yep, ketchup
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made from mashed bananas. Wow. They added vinegar,
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they added spices, and... Actually, it's still
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popular today and I have tried some I would imagine
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some of the grocery stores that sell weird foods
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There's a story with a name like that It tastes
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actually nothing like bananas at all Wow. Yeah
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a type of a ketchup. Well, thanks for sharing
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that one We're gonna have to do a little footwork
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and go find a grocery store. Yeah That's one
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world market, world market. I'm thinking there's
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a good place to start. I bet has it. So again,
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it's not quite as bizarre, but let's get back
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into the bizarre. The Victorians, we know about
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the Victorian days. Those people were a little
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bizarre. They had a obsession with jelly. They
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loved to put anything and everything into gelatin
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molds. Oh, it's good for you. Vegetables in the
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mold. meats in the mole, even a whole fish. Imagine
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that, a whole fish. At fancy dinners, you'd be
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dazzled by what looked like a shimmering ruby
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red dessert, only to cut inside and find chicken
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gizzards staring back at you. You know, I prefer
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mine breaded and crispy. Yes. I don't want gelatin
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anywhere near my chicken gizzards. No, no. I
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haven't even gotten past trying to eat sardines.
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We'll put gelatin in a mold that looks like a
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fish, but there ain't no fish in that gelatin.
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Okay. And yet pickled fish, which I have had,
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is awesome in a pickled gelatin. So who knows
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so does that count for herring? Yeah, herring
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is right, you know, okay So again, we're all
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a little bizarre. Yeah. All right Once again
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one more there's a there was a king who once
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talked about how coffee was cursed by those who
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were Bosses in charge. I don't see you have a
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good future This guy he's the king he cursed
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coffee in the 1500s He was an Ottoman sultan,
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Murad IV, and he outlawed coffee under penalty
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of death. Convinced it was corrupting society.
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Oh yeah. They're all sitting around talking about
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the king, the Ottoman guy, while they're drinking
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coffee, yes. Well, he had a solution. Sneak around
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Istanbul, which is where this was occurring,
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in a disguise, with a massive sword. Now that's
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kind of weird. You're disguised, but you're walking
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around with this massive sword and personally
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dispatched anyone caught sipping a cup. So yes,
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he was the coffee police. Oh my gosh. We're going
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to go to the next segment. Weird people tales.
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How about that one? And I'm going to take this
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first guy. Mark and thank you very much for giving
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me her at a status. Yeah, you said that well
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Here are stratus Famous arsonist this guy goes
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back to 356 before the common era bce So this
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guy burned down the temple of Artemis and like
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who I don't like who is Artemis So I had to look
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this up and she's from Greek mythology. Mm -hmm
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the virgin goddess of the hunt of wild nature,
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chastity and the moon. Wow, it's not your everyday
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patron of the temple. So there we go. She's also
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the twin sister of Apollo and the daughter of
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Zeus. Oh, Zeus, that's big time trouble. So what's
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this guy's motivation, right? Why would he burn
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down this goddess's temple? Just so he can make
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a name for himself? Whoa. I don't think it takes
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much sense to figure out that the authorities
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of the time decided, not only the dispatch of
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him, I don't even want to look up how he died,
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but just by saying his name, you could be arrested
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and what they did in olden days, they erased
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him. If his name was mentioned anywhere in stone,
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it was erased. Tablet it was erased. It was in
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a scroll the scroll was burned. The guy was basically
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erased. Yes. Yes Well, I guess what we're still
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talking So we're going to give him the prize
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of being the first guy to go viral doing something
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dumb That's so cool. Good job. Herostratus. Herostratus
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Excellent. Well, let's see if I can I don't know
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I don't have to say I top that, but there's some
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more bizarre. I think you can top this one. That's
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the Pope who performed the corpse trial. This
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was about 500 years later after this other dude
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burned down the temple. This was in 897 BCE.
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Pope Stephen VI. He put his dead predecessor,
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Pope Formosus, on trial. He dressed the corpse
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up in papal robes. and propped him up on a throne.
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He began to interrogate him. Surprisingly, unsurprisingly,
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the corpse lost the trial. Oh, bad joke. Is it
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because he pled the fifth? Bad lawyer, pled the
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fifth. What's up with this guy? You lose. Great.
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Well, you know, that definitely tops. That is
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bizarre. That's bizarre. And then we have...
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That ain't bizarre enough. We got Charles VI,
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known as the Glass King of France. The Glass
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King. Well, he believed he was made of glass.
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So, of course, he was the Glass King. He refused
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to let anybody touch him. He wore reinforced
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clothing, and he freaked out if people came near
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him. Well, of course, they were going to break
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the glass. Imagine him trying to play a medieval
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game of tag. Instant meltdown by the king. Oh,
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absolutely He totally freaked out That is we
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have something about a weird nose or no nose.
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I think oh, you know, this is a guy who I couldn't
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pronounce his name so taiko brah and he had a
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prosthetic nose now this guy is a pretty interesting
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and famous guy as a Astronomer and he had a lot
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of findings that were, you know first person
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to discover this and that Mm -hmm science and
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astronomy But he lost a part of his nose in a
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duel You know what they say about poking your
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nose into somebody else's business So, you know
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the guy obviously was a man of means he found
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a way to replace it with a metal prosthetic You
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know and there are you know stories reports could
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have been gold or silver but private he sometimes
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switched His nose every day to an everyday nose,
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whatever that is So just look at this, you know,
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he goes to his dresser and he's got three noses
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in a little, you know, velvet tray. Oh my gosh
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So, you know, we're gonna give him the prize
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for being the guy who had a nose for wardrobe.
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Oh my god Or he could go out with no nose and
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a big hole between his eyes Well, for your for
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for bear fans, I think they could listen to this
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next story. All right, here we go. Lord Byron's
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pet bear at a university. Old Lord Byron, when
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he went to Cambridge, dogs were banned in a student
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housing. So what did he do? He brought a pet
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bear with him instead. Well, the college officials,
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when they protested, Byron insisted, there's
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no rule against bears. I got a feeling there
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probably is today. Well, I'll tell you what.
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I think the man was brilliant. He found the loophole,
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right? He found the loophole. He absolutely has
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a good future. That's totally... I think there's
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a lot of other good stories about Lurt Brain.
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I'll tell you. He's a smart man. I'm like sitting
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on the edge of my chair. We still haven't discovered
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who is the famous president who... Oh, old honest
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Abe the wrestler. Yes. Yes. Yes. Before Abraham
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Lincoln was the president, he was a top tier
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wrestler. All right. I mean, he wrestled around
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300 matches and he only lost once. Can you imagine
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this guy in the UFC? He'd probably, he'd probably
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be famous too. He was known once he grabbed the
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heckler in the crowd and he lifted him by the
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neck and tossed them several feet. utilizing
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those wrestling skills they have, obviously.
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And you might say, four score and seven throws
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ago. Way to go. That's a big one. Wow. Okay,
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Mark. I hear we've got a few more weird food
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tales. Yeah, we do. There's a few more bizarre
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food tales before we get to the conclusion. The
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famous conclusion. Alright, well, let's go back
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to the medieval days. Oh my favorite time meat
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meat water. I said that meat water in the Middle
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Ages those middle -aged people them and the Victorians
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I don't know people believed you could drink
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meat by boiling beef until the water captured
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the essence Yes, the essence the beef tea served
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to the nobles as a delicacy Hmm basically the
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original bullion cube just way grosser Yeah,
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now I have to also make a note. I mentioned the
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first recipe it's been said that the very first
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recipe that was ever created was Beer oh Yeah,
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that's gotta be a very old I'm sure there was
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an accidental thing somebody threw some thing
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in a pot and water rained and they said that's
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Hmm. Smells like it might be good. Let's drink
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it. Ah, beer. So that's just to cover that. I
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mean, that's important historical data. Goes
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along well with meat water. Better than that
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meat water. But since we're talking about water
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and product, back to ketchup. Okay. Not only
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can it be made from bananas, but ketchup back
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in the 1830s, an Ohio physician sold tomato ketchup
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as a miracle cure yep ketchup as a medicine for
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indigestion jauntice and get ready diarrhea we
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pharmacist stock ketchup pills oh might say Heinz
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was a little late to that party ketchup pills
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and one more from me right here back in the 1890s
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oh More bananas. The electric bananas! And back
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to the Victorians! They thought bananas... ...inducted
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electricity. Well, there you go. That's a wild
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story just in and of itself. This is bizarre.
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Yes? Some families rubbed banana peels on their
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skin. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hoping it would recharge them.
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Just like a Duracell battery. Oh my gosh. But
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history is stranger than fiction. This one tops
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them all. I don't know what the audience want.
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Weird stories, bizarre stories you have. Of course,
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we'd love to hear anything that you have, but
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Mark, I think you have one sticky wicked kind
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of bizarre story that you can tell us. Oh, gee
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whiz. Yeah, there's a story and it's called the
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Great Molasses Flood. It happened in Boston.
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Around the turn of the century. I think somewhere
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around the 1900s mm -hmm 1919 to be exact hmm
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now Boston had a massive storage tank that contained
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tons tons Like 12 ,000 tons of molasses and it
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broke open resulting in a wave that was estimated
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to be 25 feet high of sticky syrup molasses running
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through his streets. And you know, I know that
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all sounds really funny, but actually there were
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21 casualties. People lost their lives. And you
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know, no disrespect, but boy, I mean, I hope
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they weren't caught trying to drink all that
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molasses. So, you know. Guess how fast molasses
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can run through the street. They estimate it
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ran through the street at 35 miles an hour. So
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it absolutely swept you off your feet. You couldn't
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run away. So it became legendary, of course,
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and locals. would share that later on for years
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during, you know, hot summer days. It's still
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smell scent of molasses. Oh, I imagine. Yes.
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Again, it's history ever stranger than fiction.
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Oh, that is so I want to hear this next one that
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you're going to share with us about one final
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one before the conclusion. We've talked about
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ketchup and we've talked about bananas a lot.
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How can we leave out the carrot? Yeah, yeah the
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poor innocent carrot, but it's bizarre the carrot
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propaganda in World War two Yep, the British
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government spread propaganda that allied troops
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had superhuman night vision from eating carrots
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In reality though they were hiding the use of
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radar hmm the carrot craze that's so big people
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started putting carrots in everything even pudding
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oh my goodness i wonder about to put it in jello
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uh it's going way too far i don't know but it's
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it's it's i compliment you on the fact that not
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only is straight history stranger than fiction
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but we also started with bunnies and we're ending
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up with carrots there you go high five brilliant
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brilliant well here we are once again The conclusion.
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The conclusion to bizarre tales. Bizarre tales
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are of course events that are entertaining to
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hear and read about. They can be told by the
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actual person who experiences that tale. Many
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times they are part of history and told by others.
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I believe they contain facts. I really do. They
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can also be told to make a point. Make a point
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to say yes. For example, it is said George Washington
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never actually cut down the cherry tree. It is
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also said he was a person who believed strongly
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in honesty. Well, that tale helps to support
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that image. There you go. I take it as a fact.
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How about one more bizarre tale? This is, well,
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could be considered the most bizarre, at least
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of modern times. In 2015, It was a YouTuber,
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and he decided to make a chicken sandwich from
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scratch. I mean, really from scratch. He grew
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the wheat. He evaporated ocean water for salt.
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What? And he made the bread from the wheat that
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he grew. And of course, well, he had to raise
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the chicken. Oh, my goodness. It took him six
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months. $1 ,500. In the end? Get this. He said
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the sandwich was, quote, eh, not bad. Sometimes
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a sandwich is just a sandwich, no matter how
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epic or bizarre the journey. Gotcha. Thanks for
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joining us on Sunset Conversations, where curiosity
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croaks louder. We hope today's episode sparked
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a smile, stirred a thought, or simply gave you
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in, we're so glad you're here. until next time
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keep your curiosity croaking and your heart wide
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open good day good day
