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You're a real actress now.
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Whoa.
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Thanks.
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We have with us today, we have Camille.
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I don't know.
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And there's also two other people here.
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We have, and then we have, yeah, and then we have Sam, we have Frank, and we have I.
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Are we really ever even here?
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I'm never here.
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I'm here, but I'm not here.
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Here is your house.
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Here in my house.
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My house is here.
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And here is Imagine if I had like a tripophobia like trigger photo.
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Oh my gosh.
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I wish you were there.
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I wish you were there for that.
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Um the interview was like we were doing tripophobia testing.
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Disgusting.
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Yeah, no, that does sound absolutely gross.
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Horrible.
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I was crying.
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Yeah.
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I literally just pulled up like when I was looking at the photos a year later, and there was a photo of the scars like on the table, and I looked at it and I was like, no.
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You did that.
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That was you.
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No, I know, but I mean you like.
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Overall, you did that.
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You did that.
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You did that.
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I I have only one leg now.
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All for the art.
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Thank you.
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I was like, I still have the photos.
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No.
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I still have the skin flap.
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Oh, I don't know.
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I do, but I don't know where it's.
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Oh, do we have it?
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I do, I can't.
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I thought it wasn't specifically asked that we can.
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Listen to me.
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I said I don't know where it's at.
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I thought they shipped it to some lab somewhere.
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Just to test it out.
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And it's gone.
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Bacteria.
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I don't know if things are growing.
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It's probably still moist when I put it in the bag.
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It's probably in the back of your freezer.
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I think it's in this cabinet somewhere.
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It's gonna be put in the shadow.
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It's gonna like multiply into like more.
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More holes.
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Four.
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More.
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Well, yeah.
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Speaking of holes, we filmed a movie.
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A short film.
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A film.
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A film we filmed.
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Yes.
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It was lots of fun.
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It was.
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As you can see, we wouldn't think of how to like end up.
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It's off the cuff.
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But also organized.
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Well, Camille, have you ever heard of Tropophobia?
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Good start.
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Maybe a little bit.
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Did you for do you know if you like fear holes?
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I patterns.
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I never really thought about it until like it started being more prevalent in my life.
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Like people were talking about it, and then like there's just certain things that would come up where I was like, oh yeah, that is really uneasy, and that's kind of gross.
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Now you notice it.
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Now you see it everywhere.
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It's kind of like you don't notice it until somebody points it out, and then you can't help but see it everywhere.
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And then did you notice more after filming?
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Especially like the weeks after filming.
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And then it kind of went away.
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Good.
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But now obviously the next because we're talking about a year later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like the game.
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Yeah.
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So I think Frank.
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Oh.
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I've been going like two years strong, maybe third.
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I saw this meme where it's like you're officially done with the game.
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So I'm gonna go with Frank, even though you both remembered the game.
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No, I don't know what you're talking about.
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So, Frank, you initially uh brought the script to Camille and talked to her about the project.
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Yes, that is true.
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That is a fact.
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Um actually, well, okay, so the end of the podcast.
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Yeah, we're done.
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Thank you.
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That's it.
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It's been a while.
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It's been a while.
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It's been a while.
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Um, but if I remember correctly, you had mentioned the script or the story first forever ago.
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Eons ago, ages ago.
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And I liked the idea, and I was like, wait, that sounds kind of fun.
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I want to do that.
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Mostly because I felt like I could up it and torture you, but also because you have.
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You've achieved.
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Because it was like friends are for Frank's words were our friends.
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Frank's Frank's words were Sam, and this is like verbatim.
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Sam, if I don't gross you out, I have not done my job.
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That's true.
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And Frank as a whole person does gross me out.
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It's a lifelong project.
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Yeah.
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And it was interesting too because I remember we like we guys were talking, we were like, oh yeah, we should like do this.
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And then it just suddenly ended up being our next project.
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Yeah.
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Well, initially it was supposed to be like, so I had I hadn't at the time that we started talking about it directed anything like over 10 years, and I really needed to do something.
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So I was like, hey, can I direct it?
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And you're like, yeah, sure.
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Whatever.
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But literally, that's cool with me.
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And I was like, okay.
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Um, but uh our location, um, the location we were gonna film in kept on shifting.
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Where were we gonna where were we gonna film them?
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Well, at one point we were gonna film at my sister's house.
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But that became interloper, period.
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Yes.
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So what happened is that um the dates um for even just trying to get like the that kept shifting, and then we had a makeup artist and uh he dropped out.
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So we were like, okay, what are we gonna do?
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We have no makeup, but I want to do something.
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So that's what led to doing Interloper.
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It was like, hey, let's let's do something that we can do like in a day.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and that turned into a year.
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A year and eight days.
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Now that you've seen it, you've seen the film, because the film is out now and we just showed it to you.
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Um, so how do you think the climax turned out with you tearing the skin in the film?
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Oh, it was so gross.
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It was so gross.
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I loved it.
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Um, it was really fun to watch it because I I had like such vivid memories of filming it, and I remembered like little parts about the movie, and then like when I saw it, I was like, oh yeah, I remember doing that.
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That was a lot of fun.
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And the makeup I thought turned really it turned out really good.
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Yeah, like it read on camera, so congratulations to you.
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Thank you.
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Sam's first time.
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Hell yeah.
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Um really quick, because we used a real knife and it was the sharpest of my collection.
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So when we picked that, and then I was I realized what you were actually gonna do, I was so freaked out.
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And every time I watched that cut, literally, I was like, oh my god.
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I remember it so I'm like, oh I hope she doesn't actually cut her leg.
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Because it was so like close.
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Yeah.
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But it it was so good.
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You were so because we only had one prosthetic, so like if we shouldn't have to be like, you know, the leg, whatever.
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That's more important.
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It'll grow up now.
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It's funny.
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No, but I just remember how crazy because I remember we were like this, we were chatting right before the scene started, and then you were about to start it, and you were like, Okay, hold on, like, I need a second.
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And it was just crazy.
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You just in an instant like transformed, and then I got nervous.
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I was like, Sam, um, I was like, I'm gonna go stand outside.
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Well, okay, because I was waiting going back, it wasn't the cutting part, it was the right before.
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Yeah, yeah, the crash.
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So it was part where you're doing the charcuterie board, you were like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I remember because we filmed at like 6 p.m.
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We made sure it was sometime between like people were coming home, but right before they were going to bed.
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Because it was on a it was on a weekend.
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Yeah, I think that was on a Sunday.
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Yes, that was the last day of shooting.
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And then I remember yeah, you and I were like, Okay, what can we do?
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And then go ahead, what were you gonna say?
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Yeah, no, and then Camille, like it was great.
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You really turned up the performance.
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So then me, I was like, I think I'm gonna like stand outside because I was getting concerned.
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I was like, I was like, I know Sam, like in her apartment, like not really loud, and then suddenly their neighbors on both sides are gonna hear screaming.
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I was like, I was like, okay, I was like, I don't, you know, I mean, cool on the neighbors if they call someone because they're concerned, but I was like, ooh, like, yeah.
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But not right now.
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Yeah, I was like, not right now.
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So I was like, I was like, okay, let's do it, let's get it done now.
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And then I was like, yeah, I might just go stand outside or be around in case something.
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But then I was like, but then that also might be kind of sketchy.
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Some random guys.
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Like some random.
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Then I was like, you know what?
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You know what?
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Let's just all we'll like, it's not fine.
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And you're like, no, we'll see what happens.
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And we got a great performance.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think I remember some mommy in the near.
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You open the door and throw it at him.
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Leave.
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They're gonna the door's gonna open up the door's gonna open the place like, and you're gonna be smashing stuff on the counter.
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And it's like five of the people just staring at her back here.
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And I'm sitting on the couch.
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Um, yeah, so when you got the script, what did you think of it?
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Was there anything that stood out that you're like, oh cool, I kinda wanna try this.
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I remember reading it and like there was no dialogue, and I thought that was really cool, that it was all just action.
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And I remember Frankie telling me about that ahead of time, being like, There's no dialogue, it's just you.
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And so I was prepped for that.
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But as I was reading it, I was like, Oh, this is kind of cool.
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This is just like a quick, like, oh my god, she's descending into madness, and it was really cool to see the visuals written down, and then kind of like picturing like how I saw it in my mind, and then seeing how y'all saw it in your mind, and it was really cool to see like how together we could like make that character just definitely like go insane.
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Yeah, when you were watching it, your reaction was my same reaction with the dream sequence with the um scratching.
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That looked so good.
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Right?
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Because when he wrote it, because he wrote that section, I was like, I don't know how that was gonna film.
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And then even when filming it, I'm like, I don't know how you can are gonna cut it, but I love how it was lit at the time.
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And then seeing it put together, amazing.
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I remember when you were scratching it, like I it was loud.
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I remember cringing in the first when we did the first cut.
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I was like, oh, I don't like the sound of this.
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That was our first scene.
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And you're like, is it okay?
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Like, no, it's fine.
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Just add more blood.
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Right?
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That was the first scene.
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That was the first scene.
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Well, no, it was in the bed.
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Like the Kyla Redme.
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But more, more, more.
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Yeah, that was like that was like in the first three.
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Because I remember the first things we did was the bedroom.
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All of that was like the first stuff we did.
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It was very early.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because we did the bathroom and the bedroom scenes, like I think day one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then because we had split it up into um day one normal, and then day two, all the crazy stuff.
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So day two, I think, actually, if I'm remembering correctly, we did that scene first.
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Get out of the way.
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Yeah.
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Because we were like, okay, once we're done with this, we're never coming back to this room again.
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You're right, you're right.
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Me neither.
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And I have not been back to my room.
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You sleep on the couch.
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The camera's still in there.
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Yeah, everything.
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I think we could have used more blood.
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The blanket of blood's still there.
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I'm gonna judge Lucas it.
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I'm just gonna add a whole bunch of You're gonna throw in like a CG like Jawa like in the corner.
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Singing.
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Just someone you're gonna have in the scene where Camille's like having a meltdown, you're just gonna have someone randomly singing now.
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Yeah.
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Um, but I do remember, like, like you were saying, the lighting of it.
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I also wasn't entirely sure how it was gonna look the day of.
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I just knew what I wanted in my head.
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And uh, I talked to him about like him as in him.
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Him at him as in him, him as in him, but also Houble H IM.
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Um I talked to him about um how it was gonna look, and um well what were you thinking about like how the scene was gonna sh play out day of, like filming-wise.
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Well, I know we we talked, and that's kind of how we split it too, because I know our initial approach was we wanted the first half to kind of almost feel like kind of whimsy, almost like Wes Anderson style symmetry with any everything, and then the second day kind of turns into like Rosemary's baby a little bit.
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So I know with that, that was our one of our first decisions.
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We were like, Okay, well, now when we start doing this scene, everything kind of has to almost follow.
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And I think we did end up.
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I remember we put the bed in the center of the room so we can put the lights, and we were just like, Well, if it's a dream, when you're dreaming, she's only gonna see the arms and her wrist and her hands.
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So I think we kind of just played off that, and I think a lot of it, I mean, I don't want to say like lightning in a bottle, but everything just kind of clicked in place really well.
00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:47.519
And I remember we were taking pictures, and we're like, This is actually like pretty fucking crazy.
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Pretty cool.
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It's pretty cool.
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Those came out really good.
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Oh, yeah, those photos were amazing.
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Yeah, so that's just kind of how it started.
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I think, you know, just everyone just working together, everyone just everyone everyone knew the vision.
00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:12.879
Yeah, Joao and Michael, that was the first time they were on our set, and I remember their first job was to put up the garbage bag to cover the window, and they were just on it.
00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:14.399
Yeah, they were like this.
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When I did that for Interoper, it took me like an hour and a half to the heat.
00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.679
Right, yeah, because it's just you.
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I remember I was just like, it doesn't have to last a century, but it can't fall down.
00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:24.000
Yeah.
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I was like, because they were like, we were going, we were like trying to put, I was like, and then I think we ended up having to like triple padding because they were like oh here.
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I told them, I was like, okay, we're good, it's enough.
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And it just like why is it suddenly so bright in here?
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Yeah, like just like sunlight filling the room.
00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:52.639
But um going back to that scene specifically, how was it how was it um having to do the like the heavy makeup?
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Like because oh not heavy makeup, but you know, it kind of like pinches your skin a little, right?
00:13:58.399 --> 00:13:58.799
Like those.
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Yeah, it was like a weird, um, it was a weird pinching.
00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:10.639
And then I think it was, it was absolutely and I think then like I think the worst part for me is that when I f when we filmed this, I had pretty long nails.
00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.240
Oh it was like constantly in between scratching and everything.
00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:15.200
Like, I think I have to do it.
00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.600
I hope I got this right, we don't have to do it again.
00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:26.480
But I remember being like, as I was scratching, I was like popping off the little pieces, and I was like, no, I'm popping off the makeup, and you were like, it's fine.
00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:27.840
Yeah, it looks good.
00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.159
Yeah, I remember that night, like every everybody left.
00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:35.840
I was going to bed, and I still saw like bits of flakes on my on my counter, and I'm like, It's real memories.
00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.480
It's better than you waking up in the middle of the night.
00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:40.399
That's true, scratching my own arm.
00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:41.919
Put them in the box.
00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:42.639
Memory.
00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:48.559
Yeah, there there was um so originally in the script, the sequence was even worse.
00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.159
I think it works the way like the way it looks now.
00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.159
Cause uh originally she was just gonna tear off little pieces of flesh.
00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:56.720
Yeah.
00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:58.080
Um and then reveal.
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But I like the uh the bloodier way we went.
00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.000
And then doing all the jump cuts.
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Yeah.
00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:02.720
Yeah.
00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:12.559
Which which is kind of like a um, you know, when when you when you hear other people talk about, you know, behind the scenes stuff where they they had to change something about the movie Day of.
00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:12.960
Right.
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And then they just liked what happened better.
00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:21.600
Like, it was basically that for us, and I I really liked um getting to experience that.
00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.879
You know, it w it was like not a not a a Eureka moment, but it was like a oh, this is what that's like.
00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:29.360
That's cool.
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Yeah, because that also happened again, because I remember Frank, you and I specifically wanted to shoot the knife scene towards the end.
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Yeah.
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Because we were like, any time we have left for the day, we just wanted to get like coverage.
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Yeah.
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And I remember Frank, you and I were like, because I was supposed to go cut, and you were just there, and I just kept going and going and going.
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And then we said cut, and I remember you, Frank, you and I looked and were like, we're done.
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Like that's it.
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It was so good the performance.
00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.320
I'm like, I don't want to cut away from it.
00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:05.519
Yeah, like at all.
00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.879
I I did the uh the Jack Nicholson thing.
00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.679
I was like, because we just kept looking at we were like, Camille, we were like, that was great.
00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.240
Like, I don't we have it.
00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:30.879
There was this part, it was during that part where you're on the um floor and you were in the zone, and I was on blood patrol, but the blood was so thick that it couldn't go through the syringe, but you were like in it, and I was like, oh my god, I'm wasting my time.
00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:36.159
And I was crying so hard, but my hands were also covered in blood, so I couldn't grasp the syringe.
00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.279
Yeah, and it was thick, and I was like, Oh my god, she's still crying.
00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:40.639
I need to hurry up.
00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:46.320
But yeah, in that scene too, Camille, you pointed out we were laughing at it when you watched it.
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Was the big inside joke that came from the movie was the salami.
00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:52.879
On the deli meeting, it was the salami.
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Anyone who's watching this know now, you'll never unsee it.
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There's a piece of salami on when did we notice it?
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Oh, I feel like I had it, did I have it on one of the photos?
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Because I remembered it pretty early on.
00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:09.920
Yeah, I remember, yeah, I think it was in the photos, and we just called it.
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Yeah.
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That's fantastic.
00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.319
It's just it was on the air freshener thing.
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Yeah, on the air freshener.
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So every time we just smell salami now.
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No.
00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:30.880
Every time we sorry, every time we do like an edit, we just always freeze that frame and we're like salami.
00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:32.079
Without fail.
00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.920
It was so much of a joke that like we just said, oh, that's gonna be our security title now.
00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.359
So every time we delivered any assets, it was just like deli meat.
00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:43.039
Even our group chat's deli meat.
00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:44.799
Our group chat was yeah.
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No, I think it was Joao who said it.
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He came up with the name deli meat.
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We were watching it because we had known it was there, and then Joao saw when we were watching, he looked, he goes, Deli meat.
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He's like, I got it.
00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:59.680
But then the cleanup was so good, spotless.
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Oh I know, that was spotless.
00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:02.400
I was like, oh my gosh, you guys.
00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.160
You were like, I'm gonna get in so much trouble.
00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.839
To be honest, we've been getting really good about cleanup, like really good.
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Yeah.
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I feel like we managed to keep it contained enough.
00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:12.880
Yeah.
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Like it didn't go all over the place.
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No.
00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:16.799
I mean the crash out was great.
00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:18.400
That was all coordinated by Queen.
00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:19.359
Yeah.
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We were like little minions.
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Yeah.
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It was good.
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I it was it was the it was a lot of fun.
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I can't wait to do it again.
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Oh nothing.
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Another trip.
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You're like trip to this time it's for real.
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Trip again.
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It's the other leg.
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Oh.
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Wrong leg shit.
00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:43.759
Wait.
00:18:45.759 --> 00:19:00.960
So was there anything that you thought like that you felt uh before coming in that might be a little not difficult, but uh a bit of a challenge for you to do or or or that you just never got to do before, and you were like, I don't know.
00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:08.400
I think the whole thing was a challenge for me because I hadn't been like a performer for so long, especially on camera.
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Like I hadn't done it in a while, and so it was really fun to be on this side.
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.359
Um, but I think like the whole thing, I was like, okay, how did I do this before?
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And it really realized that like you never it just never leaves you.
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It's kind of something that's always there, and so that was really cool.
00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:32.880
Um the part where I had to like not crash out and throw the charcuterie, but like the part where I was cutting my leg, that's the part where I was really nervous.
00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:38.799
Because I remember we had conversations, you know, like this whole moment, it rides on this moment, and I was like, oh my god, no pressure.
00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.319
But literally, I was like, oh my god, what if I mess this up?
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Oh my god, I can't do this.
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Oh my god.
00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.319
So I was like, it's fine, I can get through this, just remember why you do it.
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And so it was like that.
00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.079
It was fun to hang out with you guys and make some movie magic to get a day.
00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.480
Um, so then my next question actually um did it help that we knew each other prior to filming?
00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:03.599
I think so.
00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:10.240
Um I think I think it made, especially for this type of short, it made for a smoother process.
00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:18.160
Um I think it I mean it was it's a short easy I don't want to say easy to make, but it was like it was a two-day thing.
00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:33.839
So it was like really easy to just be like us and kind of just get it done and not I don't know how you guys would have felt if it was like somebody that you didn't know to maybe like you have to tiptoe around, but this it was just like Frankie'd say, get on the bed, do whatever you want, and I'll be like, Okay, great, I'm gonna scratch my arms now.
00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:39.920
And it was just like I felt like we matched pretty well on film day, so that was really cool.
00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:55.599
Yeah, it was it was a pretty smooth not not to say that our past projects haven't been smooth, but um it kind of felt like the first time that um we we did a project, uh, and it was semi-complex, you know.
00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:01.599
We had it's one uh one location, but it's different areas of the location, multiple setups.
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.640
Like I think day two we did like 27 setups or something like that.
00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:06.880
One one weekend.
00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:22.079
Yeah, you know, to go from like previous projects where you know uh we'll kind of wing it, or you know, uh there's been times where oh shit, we forgot something, you know, at this place, we gotta run back, or you know, we ran out of battery, somebody go to the store real quick.
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:29.440
To come into that, uh to go from that to you know, Interloper, which was like seven days on day one.
00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:34.880
We got two setups done out of maybe six or seven hours.
00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:38.640
It was a crazy, like terrible, terrible time.
00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:58.640
But then as as we went along, you know, learning experience, you know, to to now do two days, twenty plus setups both days, smoothly going back and you know, and then having to do the makeup and and all that stuff, it was yeah, because we were multitasking and that was like what we needed to like get into the habit of.
00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:02.640
Yeah, and we also had Two more people who were eager to like help.
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:03.039
Yeah.
00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.440
And like they were taking care of like the more um labor-ish kind of thing.
00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:07.759
Yeah.
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:18.960
And it was like that was like when you guys were setting something up, you were doing makeup on my leg, and so it was kind of just like everybody was like you know, running on all cylinders.
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:19.759
And it was fun, right?
00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:21.359
When we were doing the makeup, like Frank, come check it out.
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.240
I'm like, okay, add more yellow, make it more blue, like bruise-ish.
00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:25.119
That was cool.
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:25.759
That was really fun.
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.440
By the way, we're using a real knife.
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Yeah.
00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:29.759
I don't know if I told you, we're using a real knife.
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.039
We were like a real knife and then we tossed to that, or we're like, I feel like room sharp.
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.920
Oh that once, okay, so we noticed in the cut um when you went to grab.
00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:43.519
Do you remember when you grabbed the knife and it like kind of lost a toe?
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.599
Yeah, I was about to reveal.
00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:47.839
I forgot until just now.
00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:48.240
Yeah.
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:48.880
You reminded me.
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So when we every time we saw the cover, we're like, oh God.
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.559
A lot of cringy moments.
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Don't worry, that footage is deleted.
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.480
Don't worry, neighbor.
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:03.920
Don't worry, neighbors.
00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:05.119
That scream's real.
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That one's real.
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:07.759
That one's real.
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:08.480
Yeah.
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:09.680
Yeah, that's right.
00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:11.440
Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.799
That was cool.
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:14.319
You losing a toe.
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:15.519
Yeah.
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:15.920
Fun story.
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:17.039
I have nine other things.
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Day of scary.
00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:20.000
Mm-hmm.
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:21.759
But now we can laugh about it.
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:24.000
No.
00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.480
Um say that to my toe.
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:28.720
Listen, buddy.
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.480
So we're working on this other short, and the director that's in charge of this one actually reached out to me about character breakdowns.
00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:43.279
And I know we didn't do that one with this one, but how did you prep for your character without like a character breakdown?
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:44.640
Oh man.
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:53.759
Um I remember it was reading the script, and then I kind of just imagined, I kind of like made my own character in my mind.
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:58.480
And it was like, okay, well, how would I see this person?
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:05.039
Like, obviously, this is she listens to metal, she she burns her leg and then she goes insane.
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.319
What kind of person would do that?
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:11.519
And it was kind of just like how if I was this person, what would I do?
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.079
kind of thing.
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:18.799
And so I kind of just like took that and was like, okay, this girl, these are the issues that she has, and these are her fears.
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.599
And so I kind of just put myself in that position.
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.079
But yeah, it was kind of there was no real guidance.
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.400
I was like, alright, let's just be this person.
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:28.799
Right.
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:29.440
And yeah.
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:33.839
And you did.
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:43.920
I originally we did have well not originally, at some point we had um talked about maybe making her like an influencer of some kind to give a little bit of background.
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:44.559
Yeah.
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:46.640
Um ultimately we didn't end up doing it.
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:56.400
We didn't end up cutting it because we had I think we had a little more of a beginning, which is kind of why the beginning tone, like I said, it was kind of quirky and then it switched over.
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:04.079
Because it was supposed to be like, oh, you know, she's now in this new place, she's moving in, getting everything together.
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:20.400
Yeah, but it it did ultimately feel um just right, not doing too much in that you know, like it would have been nice to do some more character work beforehand, but um, I mean the fact of the matter is Did you really need it?
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.039
Exactly.
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.440
Yeah, I mean we you you did it.
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:34.000
I I would have liked to have um talked more about it just for that background, but I I ultimately, you know, as you can see on screen, I don't think it was necessary.
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.160
No, I think for the movie itself, like you know, it was like character was brought to life.
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:46.400
You you kind of just went in not knowing who this character is, and I think it kind of almost adds to it because you're like, okay, it's some girl.
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.039
Oh no, she's going nuts.
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:56.079
But I was and it helped also that, like, again, we all know each other, so it's kind of like that comfort level we have coming in.
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:56.480
Yeah.
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.400
So I feel like right if we didn't know the actor, that would have definitely helped out.
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.079
I think, yeah, I think so.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:09.680
And like I said, Frank and I had already like discussed this prior to when the first time you've approached the script to me.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.000
Yeah, we chose the right actress for the job.
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.440
I don't know why we're being modest.
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:13.920
We did.
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:14.720
We did.
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And we're done.
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:24.720
And um is there anything that you would do differently?
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.519
Should I like rewrite the whole thing?
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:32.000
Don't cut my leg.
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:33.920
Hmm.
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.920
No, I mean, I not do differently.
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.480
I remember the one part that I I felt, I don't know if it came out on camera.
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.519
I don't think it did, but it was just me being short.
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.119
I felt really awkward with the charcuterie board so high.
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:57.200
That was the one thing where I was like, I feel like I have three raccoons in a trench coat right now.
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:57.839
No.
00:26:58.559 --> 00:26:58.799
No.
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:00.880
Yeah, remove a step stool.
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.759
We did have to make it higher, so it was easier for your own.
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.119
That's right, I remember it.
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.079
Because it was getting it out of the box, and I was like, oh, I can't get this.
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.240
Why am I just like, why am I so short?
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.240
So I just went on the stage, just push it.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.599
And then that's why we did it.
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.440
We pushed the night and then I pushed the box.
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.599
Oh yeah, why did we push the box?
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:19.440
Because it was too short.
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.519
No, that's not the only thing.
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.960
You guys don't remember?
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:23.519
No.
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.319
Originally, we were using a smaller charcuterie board that fit the box.
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:29.119
Well, that's right.
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:29.599
And this one.
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.200
And then we used a cutting board.
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.880
Yeah, because somebody, I don't know who, didn't measure the box.
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:42.079
So what we ended up doing was we used a bigger charcuterie board that doesn't that didn't fit in the box.
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.599
So we had to cheat it and be like, yes, this giant ass charcuterie board fits in this small box.
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:49.359
That was the plan the whole time.
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:50.960
Don't give up all the secrets.
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:52.319
I don't think you can tell though.
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.200
No, no.
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.119
That was a great blocking for sure.
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:55.519
Yeah.
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.839
Watch now, it's gonna be on Cinema Sins.
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.480
Box too small.
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.799
It's gonna be like nobody's gonna be able to unsee it.
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.079
It's like the salami.
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.559
We're literally just giving out all the secrets.
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:07.119
Yeah.
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:07.680
Yeah.
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:08.400
But that's the same thing.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.759
You know, it's not real film.
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:10.480
Yeah.
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.759
It's what's fun about it.
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.119
Like doing all the little um um like problem solving.
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:17.519
Yeah.
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.640
Day of, I think that's my favorite part is um, oh shit, this doesn't work, let's fix it.
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.759
There, now it's add some duct take to it.
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:31.599
My my favorite part aside everything else was um the set design of just this one thing.
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.680
It was the the dish rag.
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:40.240
Because we start out with checkered, and then once she got starts going crazy, we switched over to to the holes.
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.359
Polka dots to the polka dots, which I still use both.
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.160
Um so yeah, I hope people people like pick that up.
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.359
Yeah, and if they don't, they will not.
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.839
The poster in the room by the books is slightly ripped.
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.519
It's not ripped.
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:02.079
It's not ripped, and I love how you always bring this up and it's just bad for it.
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.440
So I bought this poster at the Broad.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.599
It was like a Roy Lichtenstein kind of thing.
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.480
And it it it's it's a mirror, but it's dotted.
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.200
And we're like, oh, this is a great addition to like the set design.
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:19.759
So I had gone, I think I was doing makeup, and I came back and I was like, oh, this is great, but I saw how bumpy it was.
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.039
I was like, let me just touch it.
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.880
And I was like, how much fucking tech did you fucking use?
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.200
And I turned around, I was like, what did you do?
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.720
He goes, It's okay.
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.240
I'm like, it's fucking not.
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.279
But yeah, that's fine, it's not ripped, it's just very wrinkly.
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:35.440
You're good.
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:36.640
Nobody'll notice.
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.039
Now we know the movie's out, everyone knows.
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.240
I'm good now.
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.359
I'm excited.
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.160
It goes missing.
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:43.359
Yeah.
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:47.279
And I wish we had seen the one with the music, because oh, the scoring is it's great.
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.480
Joao did it, yeah.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.400
But hopefully by the time this is released, oh yeah, you will have seen it.
00:29:52.799 --> 00:30:00.400
We'll do a podcast again just for the recording it on March 25th.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.119
And uh we're gonna release it.
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:04.480
It's gonna come out.
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.759
We said in a week after.
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:06.240
Yeah.
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.119
So about it's like a little post mortem.
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.480
And you'll see it, but he did a nice version of this corn.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:13.599
Oh, cool.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.599
Okay, it sounds very much like it.
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:16.160
Okay.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.519
I was lost.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:18.319
I was like, huh?
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.079
And I was like, oh, the song.
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.279
Oh, corn cut.
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.000
Yeah, corn.
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.200
I was like, was this a marketing thing I didn't see?
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.680
Well, speaking of which, how did you feel?
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.200
Have you seen any of his marketing stuff?
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.440
Um the infomercial.
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:32.240
What you think?
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.359
I thought it was really cool, and it was really funny because I was trying to explain.
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:44.160
So on the way here, um, I was talking to my boyfriend and I was explaining to him kind of like the short, and and he was like, and I was like, Yeah, and the marketing was really cool.
00:30:44.319 --> 00:31:06.160
And then I realized I was like, wait, hold on, I have to backtrack because based off this character that has nothing to do with the short film, but it was like, and so I was telling him about this, and he was, I don't know, he's probably like, you know, like the Julia Roberts meme connecting the connecting the dots with all the math, because I was like, Yeah, and there was a Southern script, and there was this, and blah blah blah.
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:15.039
And so I thought that was really cool that you guys connected the Roger Garland stuff with um that short, and it was like the infomercial for the knife.
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.599
We're big on infomercials, it seems we are, and it's funny too, because that we grew up on infomercial.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.240
We did.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.920
It was actually a last kind of second change too was putting some of those clips in there.
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.000
It was supposed to play as a straight infomercial.
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:28.640
Oh, really?
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.279
Yeah, and then he's like, Oh, well, we have a different cut, and it's like with your stuff, and we're like, Oh, actually, this is really nice.
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.880
I made it really eerie and creepy.
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.640
Yeah, because I was like, it'd be cool if it just like kind of cuts away halfway.
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:39.119
Yeah.
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:39.599
Yeah.
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.359
Yeah, they turn out cool.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:41.759
Yeah.
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:46.559
I th w did we have an idea for another infomercial that we just never did, or am I I'm sure.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:47.599
Am I tripping?
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.640
Alright, well, everyone take a trip if you haven't already.
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:53.839
Oh, are you cutting the short?
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.240
Are we done?
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:54.960
I'm just kidding.
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:56.319
Are we done?
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:56.720
No.
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.680
We're cutting something.
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.400
I don't remember because we did the the PowerPoint, the info, and then the interviews.
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:03.279
I think that was pretty much it.
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:04.480
I didn't see the PowerPoint.
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.000
Oh, it's on our Instagram.
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:06.319
Okay.
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.640
The the knife info?
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:12.160
The knife commercial, yeah.
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.079
And you just dropped the interview today.
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:14.559
Yeah.
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.400
We got a chance, yeah, check out the infomercials.
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.119
We're kind of cursed with that because when we were doing the infomercial too, I think the knife almost went flying.
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.240
Yeah, at one point.
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.160
We had it on a lazy season.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:32.160
Oh, bit it! We were being gentle, and then someone was like, just do it.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:33.200
And I was like, okay.
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.440
And I went kind of hard and it just flew off.
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.640
Somebody gets stabbed.
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.480
So I think we have to somehow now put that knife in all of our productions going forward.
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:43.440
It's our easy.
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.799
Somebody's gonna eventually someone will lose a toe one day.
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:49.759
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.759
It's like Russian roulette at this point.
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:52.799
Literally.
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.319
And I I remember just being on the spray bottle duty.
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:56.880
Oh, yeah.
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.160
Just to make it look sweaty.
00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:58.960
That was cool.
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.440
It's to make the tomatoes look sexy.
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:04.000
Sexy tomato.
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:05.279
Exactly.
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:18.240
Um I mean, like for I f in my for me, I feel like when it comes to indie films, especially like things that we're making, I don't feel like we need to go that hard into marketing, but it's like fun.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.720
Especially that we have social media now, it's just fun to like tease and then keep everybody entertained.
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:23.200
Absolutely.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.559
And it's an opportunity, you know, like to try different and new things that you otherwise wouldn't see.
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:39.119
But it's always that like weird, not weird, it's always that like line where it's like, well, we don't want to be too obscure because then people won't know where it is or will lose people's attention.
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:44.640
But at the same time, we don't want it to look like you know, if someone's scrolling Instagram, they'd be like, Oh, this is something I've seen a hundred times.
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.200
I'm just gonna like skip skip past it.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.559
But you also have the world at your fingertips now.
00:33:50.640 --> 00:34:02.480
Like at first it was like you think of like big Hollywood movies, and all this marketing was kind of I don't want to say gate kept, but the regular person didn't really have access to that kind of those kinds of resources, and now you really do.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.319
Like you can make a movie on a phone and things like that.
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.320
So you do have access to all this marketing, especially with social media.
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.639
You can put your stuff out there, and so I think that's really cool that you guys did some marketing for it.
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:15.360
Thank you.
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.880
We have some more stuff coming.
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.239
Has we a shirt?
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.000
Ooh, perhaps.
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:20.800
Perhaps.
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.239
I just need to actually make it.
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.880
But we have the design, we have it ready.
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.760
So can you show did you show her yet the the poster?
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.880
Let's do a live reaction.
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:29.840
I didn't.
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:30.320
No.
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.880
It was done yesterday at what, 2 a.m.
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:33.760
And I won't.
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.239
Yes.
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:35.280
And we're done.
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:36.719
Oh, cool.
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.559
With the oh nice.
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:39.039
Okay.
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:40.400
Yeah.
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:41.199
That's awesome.
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:42.320
And then we'll have a fairing.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:43.280
It'll be it'll be up.
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.119
I don't I don't even need to show it because it'll be up.
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.960
Yeah, like why are you showing something that's already up?
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:47.280
Okay.
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:48.239
Sorry.
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.079
Yeah.
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.840
Anything else you guys want to add?
00:34:52.159 --> 00:35:02.639
No, I mean I think this was pretty pretty cool little, like, you know, like I personally, formally, I think I'm done with Trip.
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:04.320
I think what you're just done.
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.079
I've done all that all that I can.
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.079
Yeah, it's in Jamal's hands right now.
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:09.440
It was it was a lot of fun.
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:17.760
And I'm I'm I'm happy to um put it out there and have people just watch it and be like, yeah.
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.840
I'm part of part of that.
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.920
Yeah, I was part of that as well.
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.320
What a trip before and Camille, thanks for coming by.
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.559
It was cool to like reminisce.
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.960
You reminisce a year later exactly where we filmed it in the room.
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.000
It was very intentional.
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.079
We were like, Camille's gonna sit right here.
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.679
Right where it all happened.
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.880
By the salami.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:37.119
Yes.
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.719
I should have put a salami on the freshman.
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:41.199
It's still there.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.480
Oh green and moldy.
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.599
Like it's okay, Mom.
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:44.159
Just leave it there.
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:44.800
Don't clean it.
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.000
I thought it was fake.
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:46.880
I'm just gonna miss.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:48.159
Those are memories.
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.599
Thanks for having me.
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:55.039
It was really like I said, it was a really fun time, and I'm glad that we did this a year later.
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:55.599
Yeah.
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:57.199
But I hope you guys had good memories.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:58.320
Of course.
00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:58.880
Yeah.
00:35:59.119 --> 00:35:59.599
Yeah.
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:00.800
You're like, I'm done.
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.239
I don't want to talk about it every time.
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.239
No, I guess it's a good idea.
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:05.360
It's a good way.
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:06.800
It's the we're never done.
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.079
You just run out of time.
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.440
And the time has run out.
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:11.360
I think that's that's that's what it feels like.
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:16.320
I think you have to give yourself a deadline because it's not like you'll just give you never put it out.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.800
Tweak it to infinity and beyond.
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.480
I mean I'm excited to see it.
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:26.800
I'm excited for the public to see it because it's a fun short and it was a lot of work and a lot of heart and soul put into it.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.079
And I'm proud of it.
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:28.800
So am I?
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:36.159
And I think it's like it's a first feature where or a first short where like I feel we have a good team.
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.159
That's it.
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.079
Done.
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:40.880
Done.
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.199
I'm done.
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:44.239
I'm like Frank.
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:44.960
I'm putting it.
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:45.280
No.
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.519
Yeah.
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:46.719
No, it was good.
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:47.599
It was a good experience.
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.360
And it was, you know, like we talked about before, but it was the box of the back.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.360
It was and it was cool, interesting.
00:36:53.679 --> 00:37:00.000
And the fact this is the first thing, and I think the first thing too, Frank, we had ever like co-directed together.
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.400
Well, it's the first thing I'd ever co-directed ever.
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.559
So I remember when you guys approached me with it.
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.320
You guys were like, hey, have a seat.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.880
Oh, you're like, how do you feel like this?
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:09.920
Yeah, and I went sit down.
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.400
No, because originally it was Frank that was supposed to do it, and then you somehow snuck in.
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.519
Because Frank, no, because Frank and I kept having ideas, and we were like, oh, we should do it this.
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.119
And we were like, why don't we both?
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.159
And your first reaction, I'll never forget the Sam.
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.280
It was at Dance House, wasn't it?
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.400
It was at Dance House and you and you said, But Travis, I don't want it to be funny.
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.159
And I was like, I remember that.
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.679
I could do Mother John bro.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.960
Because okay, the thing is, you do all of the Roger Garland stuff.
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:40.639
For context for people that didn't know.
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.639
So I remember you're like, hey, if we have to tell you something, just let us finish talking first, and then you can say whatever you want.
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.320
And then you're like, how do you feel?
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:49.199
And I was like, fuck.
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.159
You're like, no.
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:50.960
What do you want?
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:52.320
What do we code?
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:52.880
I'm like, nope.
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:53.679
Because it takes me forever.
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.440
That's not a comedy.
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.920
She's not cutting her leg off for comedy.
00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:58.480
Yeah.
00:37:58.639 --> 00:37:59.840
But it all worked out in the city.
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.000
I trusted you.
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:03.119
After the fact.
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It turned out really cool.
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.039
I have a vivid memory of just like me being on the ground and just you and Frank.
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Like the two of them, like almost like next to each other, just like staring.
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And that's when the police walked in.
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Well, we did have plastic tarp on the floor, too.
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We did.
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Nothing to see here.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.760
Yeah, and then yeah, you were on a ladder at one point.
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Yeah.
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:28.719
Right?
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But that was fun.
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Yeah, no, we were like, we were sitting on the floor.
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Like right over there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was a good time.
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It was a good time.
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It's always time.
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Time was ahead.
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We'll not do it again.
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Not in here anyway.
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We have other stuff.
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So trip two.
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Another trip.
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Without Sam.
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Not in Sam's house.
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No.
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No, a dance's house.
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No.
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This time the trip goes global.
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International.
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I was gonna say international.
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Let's do an international trip to Spain.
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Like that movie wreck.
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The airport.
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Terminal.
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Trip two terminal.
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Same trip, new location.
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Trip one terminal.
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I can't do this anymore.
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Or just trips.
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Alright, how do you wrap this up?
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This is where we fade out.
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Oh, we're just talking.
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You're a real actress now.
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Whoa.
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Thanks.
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We have with us today, we have Camille.
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I don't know.
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And there's also two other people here.
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We have, and then we have, yeah, and then we have Sam, we have Frank, and we have I.
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Are we really ever even here?
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I'm never here.
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I'm here, but I'm not here.
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Here is your house.
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Here in my house.
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My house is here.
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And here is Imagine if I had like a tripophobia like trigger photo.
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Oh my gosh.
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I wish you were there.
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I wish you were there for that.
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Um the interview was like we were doing tripophobia testing.
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Disgusting.
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Yeah, no, that does sound absolutely gross.
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Horrible.
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I was crying.
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Yeah.
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I literally just pulled up like when I was looking at the photos a year later, and there was a photo of the scars like on the table, and I looked at it and I was like, no.
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You did that.
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That was you.
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No, I know, but I mean you like.
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Overall, you did that.
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You did that.
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You did that.
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I I have only one leg now.
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All for the art.
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Thank you.
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I was like, I still have the photos.
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No.
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I still have the skin flap.
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Oh, I don't know.
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I do, but I don't know where it's.
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Oh, do we have it?
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I do, I can't.
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I thought it wasn't specifically asked that we can.
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Listen to me.
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I said I don't know where it's at.
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I thought they shipped it to some lab somewhere.
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Just to test it out.
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And it's gone.
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Bacteria.
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I don't know if things are growing.
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It's probably still moist when I put it in the bag.
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It's probably in the back of your freezer.
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I think it's in this cabinet somewhere.
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It's gonna be put in the shadow.
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It's gonna like multiply into like more.
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More holes.
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Four.
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More.
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Well, yeah.
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Speaking of holes, we filmed a movie.
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A short film.
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A film.
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A film we filmed.
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Yes.
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It was lots of fun.
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It was.
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As you can see, we wouldn't think of how to like end up.
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It's off the cuff.
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But also organized.
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Well, Camille, have you ever heard of Tropophobia?
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Good start.
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Maybe a little bit.
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Did you for do you know if you like fear holes?
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I patterns.
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I never really thought about it until like it started being more prevalent in my life.
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Like people were talking about it, and then like there's just certain things that would come up where I was like, oh yeah, that is really uneasy, and that's kind of gross.
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Now you notice it.
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Now you see it everywhere.
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It's kind of like you don't notice it until somebody points it out, and then you can't help but see it everywhere.
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And then did you notice more after filming?
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Especially like the weeks after filming.
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And then it kind of went away.
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Good.
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But now obviously the next because we're talking about a year later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like the game.
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Yeah.
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So I think Frank.
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Oh.
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I've been going like two years strong, maybe third.
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I saw this meme where it's like you're officially done with the game.
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So I'm gonna go with Frank, even though you both remembered the game.
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No, I don't know what you're talking about.
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So, Frank, you initially uh brought the script to Camille and talked to her about the project.
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Yes, that is true.
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That is a fact.
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Um actually, well, okay, so the end of the podcast.
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Yeah, we're done.
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Thank you.
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That's it.
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It's been a while.
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It's been a while.
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It's been a while.
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Um, but if I remember correctly, you had mentioned the script or the story first forever ago.
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Eons ago, ages ago.
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And I liked the idea, and I was like, wait, that sounds kind of fun.
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I want to do that.
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Mostly because I felt like I could up it and torture you, but also because you have.
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You've achieved.
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Because it was like friends are for Frank's words were our friends.
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Frank's Frank's words were Sam, and this is like verbatim.
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Sam, if I don't gross you out, I have not done my job.
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That's true.
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And Frank as a whole person does gross me out.
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It's a lifelong project.
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Yeah.
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And it was interesting too because I remember we like we guys were talking, we were like, oh yeah, we should like do this.
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And then it just suddenly ended up being our next project.
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Yeah.
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Well, initially it was supposed to be like, so I had I hadn't at the time that we started talking about it directed anything like over 10 years, and I really needed to do something.
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So I was like, hey, can I direct it?
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And you're like, yeah, sure.
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Whatever.
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But literally, that's cool with me.
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And I was like, okay.
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Um, but uh our location, um, the location we were gonna film in kept on shifting.
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Where were we gonna where were we gonna film them?
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Well, at one point we were gonna film at my sister's house.
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But that became interloper, period.
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Yes.
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So what happened is that um the dates um for even just trying to get like the that kept shifting, and then we had a makeup artist and uh he dropped out.
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So we were like, okay, what are we gonna do?
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We have no makeup, but I want to do something.
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So that's what led to doing Interloper.
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It was like, hey, let's let's do something that we can do like in a day.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and that turned into a year.
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A year and eight days.
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Now that you've seen it, you've seen the film, because the film is out now and we just showed it to you.
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Um, so how do you think the climax turned out with you tearing the skin in the film?
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Oh, it was so gross.
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It was so gross.
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I loved it.
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Um, it was really fun to watch it because I I had like such vivid memories of filming it, and I remembered like little parts about the movie, and then like when I saw it, I was like, oh yeah, I remember doing that.
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That was a lot of fun.
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And the makeup I thought turned really it turned out really good.
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Yeah, like it read on camera, so congratulations to you.
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Thank you.
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Sam's first time.
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Hell yeah.
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Um really quick, because we used a real knife and it was the sharpest of my collection.
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So when we picked that, and then I was I realized what you were actually gonna do, I was so freaked out.
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And every time I watched that cut, literally, I was like, oh my god.
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I remember it so I'm like, oh I hope she doesn't actually cut her leg.
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Because it was so like close.
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Yeah.
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But it it was so good.
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You were so because we only had one prosthetic, so like if we shouldn't have to be like, you know, the leg, whatever.
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That's more important.
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It'll grow up now.
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It's funny.
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No, but I just remember how crazy because I remember we were like this, we were chatting right before the scene started, and then you were about to start it, and you were like, Okay, hold on, like, I need a second.
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And it was just crazy.
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You just in an instant like transformed, and then I got nervous.
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I was like, Sam, um, I was like, I'm gonna go stand outside.
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Well, okay, because I was waiting going back, it wasn't the cutting part, it was the right before.
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Yeah, yeah, the crash.
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So it was part where you're doing the charcuterie board, you were like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I remember because we filmed at like 6 p.m.
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We made sure it was sometime between like people were coming home, but right before they were going to bed.
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Because it was on a it was on a weekend.
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Yeah, I think that was on a Sunday.
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Yes, that was the last day of shooting.
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And then I remember yeah, you and I were like, Okay, what can we do?
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And then go ahead, what were you gonna say?
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Yeah, no, and then Camille, like it was great.
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You really turned up the performance.
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So then me, I was like, I think I'm gonna like stand outside because I was getting concerned.
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I was like, I was like, I know Sam, like in her apartment, like not really loud, and then suddenly their neighbors on both sides are gonna hear screaming.
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I was like, I was like, okay, I was like, I don't, you know, I mean, cool on the neighbors if they call someone because they're concerned, but I was like, ooh, like, yeah.
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But not right now.
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Yeah, I was like, not right now.
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So I was like, I was like, okay, let's do it, let's get it done now.
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And then I was like, yeah, I might just go stand outside or be around in case something.
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But then I was like, but then that also might be kind of sketchy.
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Some random guys.
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Like some random.
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Then I was like, you know what?
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You know what?
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Let's just all we'll like, it's not fine.
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And you're like, no, we'll see what happens.
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And we got a great performance.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think I remember some mommy in the near.
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You open the door and throw it at him.
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Leave.
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They're gonna the door's gonna open up the door's gonna open the place like, and you're gonna be smashing stuff on the counter.
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And it's like five of the people just staring at her back here.
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And I'm sitting on the couch.
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Um, yeah, so when you got the script, what did you think of it?
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Was there anything that stood out that you're like, oh cool, I kinda wanna try this.
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I remember reading it and like there was no dialogue, and I thought that was really cool, that it was all just action.
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And I remember Frankie telling me about that ahead of time, being like, There's no dialogue, it's just you.
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And so I was prepped for that.
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But as I was reading it, I was like, Oh, this is kind of cool.
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This is just like a quick, like, oh my god, she's descending into madness, and it was really cool to see the visuals written down, and then kind of like picturing like how I saw it in my mind, and then seeing how y'all saw it in your mind, and it was really cool to see like how together we could like make that character just definitely like go insane.
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Yeah, when you were watching it, your reaction was my same reaction with the dream sequence with the um scratching.
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That looked so good.
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Right?
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Because when he wrote it, because he wrote that section, I was like, I don't know how that was gonna film.
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And then even when filming it, I'm like, I don't know how you can are gonna cut it, but I love how it was lit at the time.
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And then seeing it put together, amazing.
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I remember when you were scratching it, like I it was loud.
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I remember cringing in the first when we did the first cut.
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I was like, oh, I don't like the sound of this.
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That was our first scene.
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And you're like, is it okay?
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Like, no, it's fine.
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Just add more blood.
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Right?
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That was the first scene.
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That was the first scene.
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Well, no, it was in the bed.
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Like the Kyla Redme.
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But more, more, more.
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Yeah, that was like that was like in the first three.
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Because I remember the first things we did was the bedroom.
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All of that was like the first stuff we did.
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It was very early.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because we did the bathroom and the bedroom scenes, like I think day one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then because we had split it up into um day one normal, and then day two, all the crazy stuff.
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So day two, I think, actually, if I'm remembering correctly, we did that scene first.
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Get out of the way.
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Yeah.
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Because we were like, okay, once we're done with this, we're never coming back to this room again.
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You're right, you're right.
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Me neither.
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And I have not been back to my room.
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You sleep on the couch.
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The camera's still in there.
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Yeah, everything.
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I think we could have used more blood.
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The blanket of blood's still there.
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I'm gonna judge Lucas it.
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I'm just gonna add a whole bunch of You're gonna throw in like a CG like Jawa like in the corner.
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Singing.
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Just someone you're gonna have in the scene where Camille's like having a meltdown, you're just gonna have someone randomly singing now.
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Yeah.
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Um, but I do remember, like, like you were saying, the lighting of it.
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I also wasn't entirely sure how it was gonna look the day of.
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I just knew what I wanted in my head.
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And uh, I talked to him about like him as in him.
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Him at him as in him, him as in him, but also Houble H IM.
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Um I talked to him about um how it was gonna look, and um well what were you thinking about like how the scene was gonna sh play out day of, like filming-wise.
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Well, I know we we talked, and that's kind of how we split it too, because I know our initial approach was we wanted the first half to kind of almost feel like kind of whimsy, almost like Wes Anderson style symmetry with any everything, and then the second day kind of turns into like Rosemary's baby a little bit.
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So I know with that, that was our one of our first decisions.
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We were like, Okay, well, now when we start doing this scene, everything kind of has to almost follow.
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And I think we did end up.
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I remember we put the bed in the center of the room so we can put the lights, and we were just like, Well, if it's a dream, when you're dreaming, she's only gonna see the arms and her wrist and her hands.
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So I think we kind of just played off that, and I think a lot of it, I mean, I don't want to say like lightning in a bottle, but everything just kind of clicked in place really well.
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And I remember we were taking pictures, and we're like, This is actually like pretty fucking crazy.
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Pretty cool.
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It's pretty cool.
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Those came out really good.
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Oh, yeah, those photos were amazing.
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Yeah, so that's just kind of how it started.
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I think, you know, just everyone just working together, everyone just everyone everyone knew the vision.
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Yeah, Joao and Michael, that was the first time they were on our set, and I remember their first job was to put up the garbage bag to cover the window, and they were just on it.
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Yeah, they were like this.
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When I did that for Interoper, it took me like an hour and a half to the heat.
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Right, yeah, because it's just you.
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I remember I was just like, it doesn't have to last a century, but it can't fall down.
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Yeah.
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I was like, because they were like, we were going, we were like trying to put, I was like, and then I think we ended up having to like triple padding because they were like oh here.
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I told them, I was like, okay, we're good, it's enough.
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And it just like why is it suddenly so bright in here?
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Yeah, like just like sunlight filling the room.
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But um going back to that scene specifically, how was it how was it um having to do the like the heavy makeup?
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Like because oh not heavy makeup, but you know, it kind of like pinches your skin a little, right?
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Like those.
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Yeah, it was like a weird, um, it was a weird pinching.
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And then I think it was, it was absolutely and I think then like I think the worst part for me is that when I f when we filmed this, I had pretty long nails.
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Oh it was like constantly in between scratching and everything.
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Like, I think I have to do it.
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I hope I got this right, we don't have to do it again.
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But I remember being like, as I was scratching, I was like popping off the little pieces, and I was like, no, I'm popping off the makeup, and you were like, it's fine.
00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:27.840
Yeah, it looks good.
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Yeah, I remember that night, like every everybody left.
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I was going to bed, and I still saw like bits of flakes on my on my counter, and I'm like, It's real memories.
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It's better than you waking up in the middle of the night.
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That's true, scratching my own arm.
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Put them in the box.
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Memory.
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Yeah, there there was um so originally in the script, the sequence was even worse.
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I think it works the way like the way it looks now.
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Cause uh originally she was just gonna tear off little pieces of flesh.
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Yeah.
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Um and then reveal.
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But I like the uh the bloodier way we went.
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And then doing all the jump cuts.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which which is kind of like a um, you know, when when you when you hear other people talk about, you know, behind the scenes stuff where they they had to change something about the movie Day of.
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Right.
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And then they just liked what happened better.
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Like, it was basically that for us, and I I really liked um getting to experience that.
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You know, it w it was like not a not a a Eureka moment, but it was like a oh, this is what that's like.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, because that also happened again, because I remember Frank, you and I specifically wanted to shoot the knife scene towards the end.
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Yeah.
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Because we were like, any time we have left for the day, we just wanted to get like coverage.
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Yeah.
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And I remember Frank, you and I were like, because I was supposed to go cut, and you were just there, and I just kept going and going and going.
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And then we said cut, and I remember you, Frank, you and I looked and were like, we're done.
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Like that's it.
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It was so good the performance.
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I'm like, I don't want to cut away from it.
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Yeah, like at all.
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I I did the uh the Jack Nicholson thing.
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I was like, because we just kept looking at we were like, Camille, we were like, that was great.
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Like, I don't we have it.
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There was this part, it was during that part where you're on the um floor and you were in the zone, and I was on blood patrol, but the blood was so thick that it couldn't go through the syringe, but you were like in it, and I was like, oh my god, I'm wasting my time.
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And I was crying so hard, but my hands were also covered in blood, so I couldn't grasp the syringe.
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Yeah, and it was thick, and I was like, Oh my god, she's still crying.
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I need to hurry up.
00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:46.320
But yeah, in that scene too, Camille, you pointed out we were laughing at it when you watched it.
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Was the big inside joke that came from the movie was the salami.
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On the deli meeting, it was the salami.
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Anyone who's watching this know now, you'll never unsee it.
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There's a piece of salami on when did we notice it?
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Oh, I feel like I had it, did I have it on one of the photos?
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Because I remembered it pretty early on.
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Yeah, I remember, yeah, I think it was in the photos, and we just called it.
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Yeah.
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That's fantastic.
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It's just it was on the air freshener thing.
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Yeah, on the air freshener.
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So every time we just smell salami now.
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No.
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Every time we sorry, every time we do like an edit, we just always freeze that frame and we're like salami.
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Without fail.
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It was so much of a joke that like we just said, oh, that's gonna be our security title now.
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So every time we delivered any assets, it was just like deli meat.
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Even our group chat's deli meat.
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Our group chat was yeah.
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No, I think it was Joao who said it.
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He came up with the name deli meat.
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We were watching it because we had known it was there, and then Joao saw when we were watching, he looked, he goes, Deli meat.
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He's like, I got it.
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But then the cleanup was so good, spotless.
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Oh I know, that was spotless.
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I was like, oh my gosh, you guys.
00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.160
You were like, I'm gonna get in so much trouble.
00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.839
To be honest, we've been getting really good about cleanup, like really good.
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Yeah.
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I feel like we managed to keep it contained enough.
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Yeah.
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Like it didn't go all over the place.
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No.
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I mean the crash out was great.
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That was all coordinated by Queen.
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Yeah.
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We were like little minions.
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Yeah.
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It was good.
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I it was it was the it was a lot of fun.
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I can't wait to do it again.
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Oh nothing.
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Another trip.
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You're like trip to this time it's for real.
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Trip again.
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It's the other leg.
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Oh.
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Wrong leg shit.
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Wait.
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So was there anything that you thought like that you felt uh before coming in that might be a little not difficult, but uh a bit of a challenge for you to do or or or that you just never got to do before, and you were like, I don't know.
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I think the whole thing was a challenge for me because I hadn't been like a performer for so long, especially on camera.
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Like I hadn't done it in a while, and so it was really fun to be on this side.
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Um, but I think like the whole thing, I was like, okay, how did I do this before?
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And it really realized that like you never it just never leaves you.
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It's kind of something that's always there, and so that was really cool.
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Um the part where I had to like not crash out and throw the charcuterie, but like the part where I was cutting my leg, that's the part where I was really nervous.
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Because I remember we had conversations, you know, like this whole moment, it rides on this moment, and I was like, oh my god, no pressure.
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But literally, I was like, oh my god, what if I mess this up?
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Oh my god, I can't do this.
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Oh my god.
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So I was like, it's fine, I can get through this, just remember why you do it.
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And so it was like that.
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It was fun to hang out with you guys and make some movie magic to get a day.
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Um, so then my next question actually um did it help that we knew each other prior to filming?
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I think so.
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Um I think I think it made, especially for this type of short, it made for a smoother process.
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Um I think it I mean it was it's a short easy I don't want to say easy to make, but it was like it was a two-day thing.
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So it was like really easy to just be like us and kind of just get it done and not I don't know how you guys would have felt if it was like somebody that you didn't know to maybe like you have to tiptoe around, but this it was just like Frankie'd say, get on the bed, do whatever you want, and I'll be like, Okay, great, I'm gonna scratch my arms now.
00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:39.920
And it was just like I felt like we matched pretty well on film day, so that was really cool.
00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:55.599
Yeah, it was it was a pretty smooth not not to say that our past projects haven't been smooth, but um it kind of felt like the first time that um we we did a project, uh, and it was semi-complex, you know.
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We had it's one uh one location, but it's different areas of the location, multiple setups.
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.640
Like I think day two we did like 27 setups or something like that.
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One one weekend.
00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:22.079
Yeah, you know, to go from like previous projects where you know uh we'll kind of wing it, or you know, uh there's been times where oh shit, we forgot something, you know, at this place, we gotta run back, or you know, we ran out of battery, somebody go to the store real quick.
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:29.440
To come into that, uh to go from that to you know, Interloper, which was like seven days on day one.
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We got two setups done out of maybe six or seven hours.
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It was a crazy, like terrible, terrible time.
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But then as as we went along, you know, learning experience, you know, to to now do two days, twenty plus setups both days, smoothly going back and you know, and then having to do the makeup and and all that stuff, it was yeah, because we were multitasking and that was like what we needed to like get into the habit of.
00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:02.640
Yeah, and we also had Two more people who were eager to like help.
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Yeah.
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And like they were taking care of like the more um labor-ish kind of thing.
00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:07.759
Yeah.
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:18.960
And it was like that was like when you guys were setting something up, you were doing makeup on my leg, and so it was kind of just like everybody was like you know, running on all cylinders.
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And it was fun, right?
00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:21.359
When we were doing the makeup, like Frank, come check it out.
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I'm like, okay, add more yellow, make it more blue, like bruise-ish.
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That was cool.
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That was really fun.
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By the way, we're using a real knife.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if I told you, we're using a real knife.
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We were like a real knife and then we tossed to that, or we're like, I feel like room sharp.
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.920
Oh that once, okay, so we noticed in the cut um when you went to grab.
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Do you remember when you grabbed the knife and it like kind of lost a toe?
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Yeah, I was about to reveal.
00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:47.839
I forgot until just now.
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Yeah.
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You reminded me.
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So when we every time we saw the cover, we're like, oh God.
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A lot of cringy moments.
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Don't worry, that footage is deleted.
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Don't worry, neighbor.
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:03.920
Don't worry, neighbors.
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That scream's real.
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That one's real.
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:07.759
That one's real.
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:08.480
Yeah.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.799
That was cool.
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You losing a toe.
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Yeah.
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Fun story.
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I have nine other things.
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Day of scary.
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Mm-hmm.
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But now we can laugh about it.
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No.
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Um say that to my toe.
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:28.720
Listen, buddy.
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.480
So we're working on this other short, and the director that's in charge of this one actually reached out to me about character breakdowns.
00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:43.279
And I know we didn't do that one with this one, but how did you prep for your character without like a character breakdown?
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:44.640
Oh man.
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:53.759
Um I remember it was reading the script, and then I kind of just imagined, I kind of like made my own character in my mind.
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:58.480
And it was like, okay, well, how would I see this person?
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Like, obviously, this is she listens to metal, she she burns her leg and then she goes insane.
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.319
What kind of person would do that?
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:11.519
And it was kind of just like how if I was this person, what would I do?
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.079
kind of thing.
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And so I kind of just like took that and was like, okay, this girl, these are the issues that she has, and these are her fears.
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.599
And so I kind of just put myself in that position.
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.079
But yeah, it was kind of there was no real guidance.
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.400
I was like, alright, let's just be this person.
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:28.799
Right.
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:29.440
And yeah.
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And you did.
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I originally we did have well not originally, at some point we had um talked about maybe making her like an influencer of some kind to give a little bit of background.
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:44.559
Yeah.
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Um ultimately we didn't end up doing it.
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:56.400
We didn't end up cutting it because we had I think we had a little more of a beginning, which is kind of why the beginning tone, like I said, it was kind of quirky and then it switched over.
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:04.079
Because it was supposed to be like, oh, you know, she's now in this new place, she's moving in, getting everything together.
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:20.400
Yeah, but it it did ultimately feel um just right, not doing too much in that you know, like it would have been nice to do some more character work beforehand, but um, I mean the fact of the matter is Did you really need it?
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.039
Exactly.
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.440
Yeah, I mean we you you did it.
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:34.000
I I would have liked to have um talked more about it just for that background, but I I ultimately, you know, as you can see on screen, I don't think it was necessary.
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.160
No, I think for the movie itself, like you know, it was like character was brought to life.
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:46.400
You you kind of just went in not knowing who this character is, and I think it kind of almost adds to it because you're like, okay, it's some girl.
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.039
Oh no, she's going nuts.
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:56.079
But I was and it helped also that, like, again, we all know each other, so it's kind of like that comfort level we have coming in.
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:56.480
Yeah.
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.400
So I feel like right if we didn't know the actor, that would have definitely helped out.
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.079
I think, yeah, I think so.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:09.680
And like I said, Frank and I had already like discussed this prior to when the first time you've approached the script to me.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.000
Yeah, we chose the right actress for the job.
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.440
I don't know why we're being modest.
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:13.920
We did.
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:14.720
We did.
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:15.839
And we're done.
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:24.720
And um is there anything that you would do differently?
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.519
Should I like rewrite the whole thing?
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:32.000
Don't cut my leg.
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:33.920
Hmm.
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.920
No, I mean, I not do differently.
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.480
I remember the one part that I I felt, I don't know if it came out on camera.
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.519
I don't think it did, but it was just me being short.
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.119
I felt really awkward with the charcuterie board so high.
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:57.200
That was the one thing where I was like, I feel like I have three raccoons in a trench coat right now.
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:57.839
No.
00:26:58.559 --> 00:26:58.799
No.
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:00.880
Yeah, remove a step stool.
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.759
We did have to make it higher, so it was easier for your own.
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.119
That's right, I remember it.
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.079
Because it was getting it out of the box, and I was like, oh, I can't get this.
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.240
Why am I just like, why am I so short?
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.240
So I just went on the stage, just push it.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.599
And then that's why we did it.
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.440
We pushed the night and then I pushed the box.
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.599
Oh yeah, why did we push the box?
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:19.440
Because it was too short.
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.519
No, that's not the only thing.
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.960
You guys don't remember?
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:23.519
No.
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.319
Originally, we were using a smaller charcuterie board that fit the box.
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:29.119
Well, that's right.
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:29.599
And this one.
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.200
And then we used a cutting board.
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.880
Yeah, because somebody, I don't know who, didn't measure the box.
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:42.079
So what we ended up doing was we used a bigger charcuterie board that doesn't that didn't fit in the box.
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.599
So we had to cheat it and be like, yes, this giant ass charcuterie board fits in this small box.
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:49.359
That was the plan the whole time.
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:50.960
Don't give up all the secrets.
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:52.319
I don't think you can tell though.
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.200
No, no.
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.119
That was a great blocking for sure.
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:55.519
Yeah.
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.839
Watch now, it's gonna be on Cinema Sins.
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.480
Box too small.
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.799
It's gonna be like nobody's gonna be able to unsee it.
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.079
It's like the salami.
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.559
We're literally just giving out all the secrets.
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:07.119
Yeah.
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:07.680
Yeah.
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:08.400
But that's the same thing.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.759
You know, it's not real film.
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:10.480
Yeah.
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.759
It's what's fun about it.
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.119
Like doing all the little um um like problem solving.
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:17.519
Yeah.
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.640
Day of, I think that's my favorite part is um, oh shit, this doesn't work, let's fix it.
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.759
There, now it's add some duct take to it.
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:31.599
My my favorite part aside everything else was um the set design of just this one thing.
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.680
It was the the dish rag.
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:40.240
Because we start out with checkered, and then once she got starts going crazy, we switched over to to the holes.
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.359
Polka dots to the polka dots, which I still use both.
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.160
Um so yeah, I hope people people like pick that up.
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.359
Yeah, and if they don't, they will not.
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.839
The poster in the room by the books is slightly ripped.
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.519
It's not ripped.
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:02.079
It's not ripped, and I love how you always bring this up and it's just bad for it.
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.440
So I bought this poster at the Broad.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.599
It was like a Roy Lichtenstein kind of thing.
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.480
And it it it's it's a mirror, but it's dotted.
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.200
And we're like, oh, this is a great addition to like the set design.
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:19.759
So I had gone, I think I was doing makeup, and I came back and I was like, oh, this is great, but I saw how bumpy it was.
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.039
I was like, let me just touch it.
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.880
And I was like, how much fucking tech did you fucking use?
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.200
And I turned around, I was like, what did you do?
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.720
He goes, It's okay.
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.240
I'm like, it's fucking not.
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.279
But yeah, that's fine, it's not ripped, it's just very wrinkly.
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:35.440
You're good.
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:36.640
Nobody'll notice.
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.039
Now we know the movie's out, everyone knows.
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.240
I'm good now.
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.359
I'm excited.
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.160
It goes missing.
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:43.359
Yeah.
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:47.279
And I wish we had seen the one with the music, because oh, the scoring is it's great.
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.480
Joao did it, yeah.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.400
But hopefully by the time this is released, oh yeah, you will have seen it.
00:29:52.799 --> 00:30:00.400
We'll do a podcast again just for the recording it on March 25th.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.119
And uh we're gonna release it.
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:04.480
It's gonna come out.
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.759
We said in a week after.
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:06.240
Yeah.
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.119
So about it's like a little post mortem.
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.480
And you'll see it, but he did a nice version of this corn.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:13.599
Oh, cool.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.599
Okay, it sounds very much like it.
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:16.160
Okay.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.519
I was lost.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:18.319
I was like, huh?
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.079
And I was like, oh, the song.
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.279
Oh, corn cut.
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.000
Yeah, corn.
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.200
I was like, was this a marketing thing I didn't see?
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.680
Well, speaking of which, how did you feel?
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.200
Have you seen any of his marketing stuff?
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.440
Um the infomercial.
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:32.240
What you think?
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.359
I thought it was really cool, and it was really funny because I was trying to explain.
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:44.160
So on the way here, um, I was talking to my boyfriend and I was explaining to him kind of like the short, and and he was like, and I was like, Yeah, and the marketing was really cool.
00:30:44.319 --> 00:31:06.160
And then I realized I was like, wait, hold on, I have to backtrack because based off this character that has nothing to do with the short film, but it was like, and so I was telling him about this, and he was, I don't know, he's probably like, you know, like the Julia Roberts meme connecting the connecting the dots with all the math, because I was like, Yeah, and there was a Southern script, and there was this, and blah blah blah.
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:15.039
And so I thought that was really cool that you guys connected the Roger Garland stuff with um that short, and it was like the infomercial for the knife.
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.599
We're big on infomercials, it seems we are, and it's funny too, because that we grew up on infomercial.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.240
We did.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.920
It was actually a last kind of second change too was putting some of those clips in there.
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.000
It was supposed to play as a straight infomercial.
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:28.640
Oh, really?
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.279
Yeah, and then he's like, Oh, well, we have a different cut, and it's like with your stuff, and we're like, Oh, actually, this is really nice.
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.880
I made it really eerie and creepy.
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.640
Yeah, because I was like, it'd be cool if it just like kind of cuts away halfway.
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:39.119
Yeah.
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:39.599
Yeah.
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.359
Yeah, they turn out cool.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:41.759
Yeah.
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:46.559
I th w did we have an idea for another infomercial that we just never did, or am I I'm sure.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:47.599
Am I tripping?
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.640
Alright, well, everyone take a trip if you haven't already.
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:53.839
Oh, are you cutting the short?
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.240
Are we done?
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:54.960
I'm just kidding.
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:56.319
Are we done?
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:56.720
No.
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.680
We're cutting something.
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.400
I don't remember because we did the the PowerPoint, the info, and then the interviews.
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:03.279
I think that was pretty much it.
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:04.480
I didn't see the PowerPoint.
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.000
Oh, it's on our Instagram.
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:06.319
Okay.
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.640
The the knife info?
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:12.160
The knife commercial, yeah.
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.079
And you just dropped the interview today.
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:14.559
Yeah.
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.400
We got a chance, yeah, check out the infomercials.
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.119
We're kind of cursed with that because when we were doing the infomercial too, I think the knife almost went flying.
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.240
Yeah, at one point.
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.160
We had it on a lazy season.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:32.160
Oh, bit it! We were being gentle, and then someone was like, just do it.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:33.200
And I was like, okay.
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.440
And I went kind of hard and it just flew off.
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.640
Somebody gets stabbed.
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.480
So I think we have to somehow now put that knife in all of our productions going forward.
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:43.440
It's our easy.
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.799
Somebody's gonna eventually someone will lose a toe one day.
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:49.759
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.759
It's like Russian roulette at this point.
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:52.799
Literally.
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.319
And I I remember just being on the spray bottle duty.
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:56.880
Oh, yeah.
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.160
Just to make it look sweaty.
00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:58.960
That was cool.
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.440
It's to make the tomatoes look sexy.
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:04.000
Sexy tomato.
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:05.279
Exactly.
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:18.240
Um I mean, like for I f in my for me, I feel like when it comes to indie films, especially like things that we're making, I don't feel like we need to go that hard into marketing, but it's like fun.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.720
Especially that we have social media now, it's just fun to like tease and then keep everybody entertained.
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:23.200
Absolutely.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.559
And it's an opportunity, you know, like to try different and new things that you otherwise wouldn't see.
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:39.119
But it's always that like weird, not weird, it's always that like line where it's like, well, we don't want to be too obscure because then people won't know where it is or will lose people's attention.
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:44.640
But at the same time, we don't want it to look like you know, if someone's scrolling Instagram, they'd be like, Oh, this is something I've seen a hundred times.
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.200
I'm just gonna like skip skip past it.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.559
But you also have the world at your fingertips now.
00:33:50.640 --> 00:34:02.480
Like at first it was like you think of like big Hollywood movies, and all this marketing was kind of I don't want to say gate kept, but the regular person didn't really have access to that kind of those kinds of resources, and now you really do.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.319
Like you can make a movie on a phone and things like that.
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.320
So you do have access to all this marketing, especially with social media.
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.639
You can put your stuff out there, and so I think that's really cool that you guys did some marketing for it.
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:15.360
Thank you.
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.880
We have some more stuff coming.
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.239
Has we a shirt?
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.000
Ooh, perhaps.
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:20.800
Perhaps.
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.239
I just need to actually make it.
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.880
But we have the design, we have it ready.
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.760
So can you show did you show her yet the the poster?
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.880
Let's do a live reaction.
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:29.840
I didn't.
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:30.320
No.
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.880
It was done yesterday at what, 2 a.m.
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:33.760
And I won't.
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.239
Yes.
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:35.280
And we're done.
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:36.719
Oh, cool.
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.559
With the oh nice.
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:39.039
Okay.
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:40.400
Yeah.
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:41.199
That's awesome.
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:42.320
And then we'll have a fairing.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:43.280
It'll be it'll be up.
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.119
I don't I don't even need to show it because it'll be up.
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.960
Yeah, like why are you showing something that's already up?
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:47.280
Okay.
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:48.239
Sorry.
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.079
Yeah.
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.840
Anything else you guys want to add?
00:34:52.159 --> 00:35:02.639
No, I mean I think this was pretty pretty cool little, like, you know, like I personally, formally, I think I'm done with Trip.
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:04.320
I think what you're just done.
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.079
I've done all that all that I can.
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.079
Yeah, it's in Jamal's hands right now.
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:09.440
It was it was a lot of fun.
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:17.760
And I'm I'm I'm happy to um put it out there and have people just watch it and be like, yeah.
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.840
I'm part of part of that.
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.920
Yeah, I was part of that as well.
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.320
What a trip before and Camille, thanks for coming by.
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.559
It was cool to like reminisce.
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.960
You reminisce a year later exactly where we filmed it in the room.
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.000
It was very intentional.
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.079
We were like, Camille's gonna sit right here.
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.679
Right where it all happened.
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.880
By the salami.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:37.119
Yes.
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.719
I should have put a salami on the freshman.
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:41.199
It's still there.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.480
Oh green and moldy.
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.599
Like it's okay, Mom.
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:44.159
Just leave it there.
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:44.800
Don't clean it.
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.000
I thought it was fake.
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:46.880
I'm just gonna miss.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:48.159
Those are memories.
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.599
Thanks for having me.
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:55.039
It was really like I said, it was a really fun time, and I'm glad that we did this a year later.
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:55.599
Yeah.
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:57.199
But I hope you guys had good memories.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:58.320
Of course.
00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:58.880
Yeah.
00:35:59.119 --> 00:35:59.599
Yeah.
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:00.800
You're like, I'm done.
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.239
I don't want to talk about it every time.
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.239
No, I guess it's a good idea.
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:05.360
It's a good way.
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:06.800
It's the we're never done.
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.079
You just run out of time.
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.440
And the time has run out.
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:11.360
I think that's that's that's what it feels like.
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:16.320
I think you have to give yourself a deadline because it's not like you'll just give you never put it out.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.800
Tweak it to infinity and beyond.
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.480
I mean I'm excited to see it.
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:26.800
I'm excited for the public to see it because it's a fun short and it was a lot of work and a lot of heart and soul put into it.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.079
And I'm proud of it.
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:28.800
So am I?
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:36.159
And I think it's like it's a first feature where or a first short where like I feel we have a good team.
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.159
That's it.
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.079
Done.
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:40.880
Done.
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.199
I'm done.
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:44.239
I'm like Frank.
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:44.960
I'm putting it.
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:45.280
No.
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.519
Yeah.
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:46.719
No, it was good.
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:47.599
It was a good experience.
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.360
And it was, you know, like we talked about before, but it was the box of the back.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.360
It was and it was cool, interesting.
00:36:53.679 --> 00:37:00.000
And the fact this is the first thing, and I think the first thing too, Frank, we had ever like co-directed together.
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.400
Well, it's the first thing I'd ever co-directed ever.
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.559
So I remember when you guys approached me with it.
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.320
You guys were like, hey, have a seat.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.880
Oh, you're like, how do you feel like this?
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:09.920
Yeah, and I went sit down.
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.400
No, because originally it was Frank that was supposed to do it, and then you somehow snuck in.
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.519
Because Frank, no, because Frank and I kept having ideas, and we were like, oh, we should do it this.
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.119
And we were like, why don't we both?
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.159
And your first reaction, I'll never forget the Sam.
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.280
It was at Dance House, wasn't it?
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.400
It was at Dance House and you and you said, But Travis, I don't want it to be funny.
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.159
And I was like, I remember that.
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.679
I could do Mother John bro.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.960
Because okay, the thing is, you do all of the Roger Garland stuff.
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:40.639
For context for people that didn't know.
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.639
So I remember you're like, hey, if we have to tell you something, just let us finish talking first, and then you can say whatever you want.
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.320
And then you're like, how do you feel?
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:49.199
And I was like, fuck.
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.159
You're like, no.
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:50.960
What do you want?
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:52.320
What do we code?
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:52.880
I'm like, nope.
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:53.679
Because it takes me forever.
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.440
That's not a comedy.
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.920
She's not cutting her leg off for comedy.
00:37:58.159 --> 00:37:58.480
Yeah.
00:37:58.639 --> 00:37:59.840
But it all worked out in the city.
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.000
I trusted you.
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:03.119
After the fact.
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.400
It turned out really cool.
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.039
I have a vivid memory of just like me being on the ground and just you and Frank.
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:15.199
Like the two of them, like almost like next to each other, just like staring.
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.960
And that's when the police walked in.
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.559
Well, we did have plastic tarp on the floor, too.
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:24.000
We did.
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.039
Nothing to see here.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.760
Yeah, and then yeah, you were on a ladder at one point.
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:28.320
Yeah.
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:28.719
Right?
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:29.679
But that was fun.
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.280
Yeah, no, we were like, we were sitting on the floor.
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:33.599
Like right over there.
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:34.159
Yeah.
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:34.639
Yeah.
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:35.840
It was a good time.
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:36.719
It was a good time.
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.599
It's always time.
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:39.280
Time was ahead.
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:40.559
We'll not do it again.
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:42.159
Not in here anyway.
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:43.119
We have other stuff.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.400
So trip two.
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:45.760
Another trip.
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:46.800
Without Sam.
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:49.280
Not in Sam's house.
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:49.840
No.
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:50.960
No, a dance's house.
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:51.280
No.
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.039
This time the trip goes global.
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.039
International.
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:56.639
I was gonna say international.
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.800
Let's do an international trip to Spain.
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:02.559
Like that movie wreck.
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:03.440
The airport.
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:04.559
Terminal.
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.079
Trip two terminal.
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:07.679
Same trip, new location.
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.119
Trip one terminal.
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.639
I can't do this anymore.
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.039
Or just trips.
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.239
Alright, how do you wrap this up?
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:17.440
This is where we fade out.
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:18.880
Oh, we're just talking.