If You Keep Calling A Ghost By Name... Does It Start Listening? (Tyler Cemetery After Dark)

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Alright, you guys, welcome back to Strange Strange Band Insane, and this is your host, Melissa.
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And tonight I have a very special guest.
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Hi everyone.
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This is Dawn Martin.
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I am from the team.
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Well, I'm the owner of the team, the Ghost Whispers.
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Um, very good to sit here and talk with you tonight.
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Nice.
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Oh, they gotta see my face.
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So, you guys were also doing a live on TikTok.
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Dawn and I joined, and um, you know, along with talking about all the topics that we need to go over, every time we're on the phone, Dawn, we're like, we should do a podcast on this.
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We should do a podcast on this.
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We do.
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We do.
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Because we always think of brainstorming so many different good things to talk about.
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Um, and then sometimes we forget, sometimes we take notes, you know, and then we'll talk again and we'll be like, oh god, we should have done a podcast on this.
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Yes.
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This time we wanted to do it because I found a TikToker out here that posted a video of a local cemetery for us.
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And I said, Hey Melissa, we really need to go here.
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And she was like, Yeah, that place looks really intriguing.
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Let's go check it out.
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So we went out that weekend.
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It's called Tyler Cemetery, and it held up to everything that the TikToker said, in my opinion.
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Uh, yeah.
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It was probably the most wild cemetery that I've been to in such a very long time.
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Yeah, it like we pretty much were we were getting evidence um right off the rip.
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Then you want to explain like when we first drove in?
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Yeah, so we get to this place, it's very dark, very spooky.
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It has a couple entrances.
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It's set right next to an old church.
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And I mean, I'm talking it's old, and the graves are from like the 1800s.
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So we pull in.
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Melissa says, Hey, you want to go to the back?
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And I'm like, Yeah, let's go to the back.
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Let's go check the whole thing out.
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Well, right away we spot like this old truck and it's connected to like a trailer.
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And Melissa's like, what kind of truck is that?
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And I'm like, Oh, I don't know.
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I thought we were the only ones in the cemetery because it's kind of small, and it but it has like three driveways in it.
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I don't remember if it had three entrances.
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I know for sure it had two.
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But um we're driving around.
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She's like, should I back up and go back up this?
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I'm like, no, just drive all the way to the back.
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And we drove around in a loop, like a horseshoe loop.
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So we were coming up the other side, and she's like, Where's the truck?
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I'm like, what do you mean?
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She's like, look, the truck is gone.
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Yeah.
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So that was our first thing that we seen.
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It was literally a ghost truck, but the trailer was there.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, well, there's no way this truck could have left without crossing our path, and it couldn't have gone out straight because the trailer was blocking it.
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So there was nowhere for this truck that didn't even have lights on to turn on its lights and roll out of the cemetery.
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So that right off the bat was really weird, and you could tell your point of view on that part, what you thought.
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Well, when we pulled up, when Don said just pull up and see what's going on, you could see obviously that there were taillights on.
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Because she had just said Don's like, oh, watch there be some serial killer in there, and I'm like, and then it just and then there was someone in there because it was on, and I'm like, oh man, this isn't good.
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Yeah.
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And then it would just vanish.
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We we went to the next row over, and we're like, where did that truck go?
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So it it was very bizarre, very odd, like no headlights or nothing, but you could visibly see the truck, and you could tell it was it was a very older model.
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I mean, probably like 70s, it was a very old truck, and then for it to be gone, so we were like trying to debunk that and rack our brains, what's going on with this?
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And while we were sitting there, we had the windows crack down, and we heard like a noise outside the truck, and it was like a grunty sound, and we were like, what the hell was that?
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Is there really somebody in the cemetery with us at this time?
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So we locked the doors, yep, and we're like, hey, is anybody out there?
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You know, we're just here investigating, we're not trying to walk up on nobody or mess with nobody.
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Now, behind us, we didn't find out till we left, but it was an old quarry that's been abandoned.
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So there was no road or nothing.
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It's just an old quarry that nobody uses, and there is nothing surrounding us, just an old church that looks like it was abandoned, honestly.
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It doesn't look like it was abandoned.
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It is abandoned, it's not being used.
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Me and Crystal went there before we went to soup the other week, and it does say that the church is not being used.
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Yeah, it looked abandoned.
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Creepy.
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So while we were sitting there, then I seen I was looking out, I was in the passenger seat, I'm looking out the driver's side, you know, over Melissa, and I see something like go by the side of her truck, and I'm like, Melissa, I just seen like a shadow thing go on getting the chills from it.
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Uh-uh.
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Go by your truck real fast.
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So at this point, I'm starting to think, is it an animal or is it somebody out here messing with us?
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Like, what can this be out there?
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And we're hearing like noises out there, but we're not really sure.
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So she Melissa said, Well, let's do another drive-through of this.
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Should we go out and then go back another way?
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I was like, Yeah, let's do that.
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So we go out on the road, we pull in the other side, and as we're going back, I'm like, oh my god, I got a stabbing pain in my brain right now.
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Yeah.
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And then um, I was like, Yeah, move away from the spot.
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Like, it was like crippling me at that point.
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So we move up and the pain like went into my hand, and I remember telling you, oh my god, that pain's in my hand.
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Because it was moving all around.
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You got the pain.
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And then I was like, oh man, I feel like I'm gonna throw up back here, Melissa.
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Like, I am not feeling good back here.
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She's like, Do you want me to go back up to where we were?
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And I'm like, Yeah, I can't sit in this spot.
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And I mean, it was so pitch black, it was the perfect spot for us to sit, but I was feeling pain.
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I was getting nauseated where I thought I was gonna have to get out of the truck and get sick.
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Oh man.
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So we pull up to our original spot, and I'm like, hey, maybe put the the car in reverse.
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Well, before we even did that, we pulled up to the spot, and then Melissa was like, I'm getting a pain in my hand.
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And it was just so odd because it was right after I went through all these pains.
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Now Melissa was getting a pain in her hand, and she's like rubbing it out.
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And I'm like, I'm gonna keep a mental note of that because those are like physical things happening to us that are just alike each other.
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Yeah.
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So uh yours probably happened like 40 minutes before mine because I you're like, you're not feeling anything.
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I'm just sitting there like eating chips.
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I'm like, no, I'm like, are you okay?
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And then all of a sudden, like about 40 minutes later, I was like, oh my hand.
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Okay.
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I'm not psychic, I'm not sensitive.
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I I just go in there with my senses like anybody else, and my tools that I have to investigate.
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Um, yeah, so I'm not claiming any kind of special abilities at all either.
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It was just something that came out of the blue on me, and I was like, whoa, what the hell?
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Like, you just could tell you don't feel right.
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Right.
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So um then we go up and I said, uh, hey, let's put the tail, put the car in reverse so we can look at the back camera, the rear view camera.
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And I remember when we put it in reverse, it was odd.
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We seen like these orange-ish, yellow glowing.
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Oh, yeah, the lights.
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And they kept getting closer.
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Yeah, then they got closer.
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I'm like, I forgot about that.
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Where are these orbs of light coming from?
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Yeah, I we wanted to do this podcast before we forgot all this.
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But I'm like, where are these orbs of light coming from?
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And then next to the car, well, first it was in front of the car.
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We seen like a white light flash in front of us, and then I seen them on the side of the car, so it was like all kinds of orbs of light just coming through.
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I I think it was probably around 11:30 midnight at that time when all of that started happening.
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But we would hear noises coming up next to the car too.
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And I think it was about one o'clock in the morning.
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We probably got there about 10:30.
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It was like one in the morning when we left, and it but I mean, we were so spooked we couldn't get out of the car because it was almost like you were being watched while being in the car.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then we were talking about spooky stories, and I feel like we manifested something there.
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What is that called?
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When you talk about a story and then it ends up happening.
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Supping thought for manifestation.
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I just watched something about that today.
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Um, they say if you talk something so much you can speak it into an existence.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So if you do, you keep telling the same folklore like Bloody Mary or something like that.
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Um, you can actually speak these into existence.
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And I think that this happens more than anybody realizes.
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As paranormal investigators, we do this quite often.
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We go to a haunted place, we know the ghost name, we know what's happening there, we've seen people heard their stories, so we're constantly calling upon, we'll say George.
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We know George lives at Hauntedville.
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So every time you go there, you're calling for this George.
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Now, if there's a spirit there, and his name might not be George, it might be Larry.
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He's like, Oh, they always want to talk to George.
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I'm gonna say I'm George, yeah, and I'm gonna talk to these people because it's somebody for me to talk to.
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Or we're speaking it into existence by conjuring something into the space, literally manifesting it so much that it enters.
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Yes, if that makes sense.
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Oh, that makes I was just watching something on TikTok the other day that um people are questioning like what ghosts are because now they're saying that they're just timelines collect you know, interacting.
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I believe that, um I believe that to an extent.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we do know we have residuals that do not interact, but I think, yeah, what if it's us in the future coming back to the past trying to communicate?
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What did she call us?
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P something P52s and P47s.
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Okay, so that shit trips me out because you know I'm a movie fan, and like the movie The Sphere, like you can go on and on like Interstellar, the Marsh.
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I mean, you start like, you know, really thinking about it, and you're like, oh my god.
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And that's why they say that like aliens look bald and elongated because post apocalyptic things that happened that they had to go into hiding underground, and that's why we would look like that in the future.
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And I don't want to be that ugly.
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Whoa, I'm sorry that there's several types of aliens, so right.
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I d I don't believe aliens live in outer space personally.
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I think aliens live in the earth.
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I think a lot of them live that just my opinion, just for entertainment purposes, in the oceans, yep, in caves, like in the Grand Canyon, Antarctica.
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I think they're like so hidden away, and I believe that they're living amongst us.
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Absolutely.
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So now do you think I mean do you think like the cloning going on nowadays that they talk about so much?
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Do you think that's alien like you?
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Um, I actually just watched this thing on YouTube today that in the year 2002 or three, there was this group of people that actually started making like 3D printed faces.
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So this woman could walk down the street, find a find a cigarette butt on the street.
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Take that cigarette butt, extract the DNA from it, get what your DNA is, make a mask of your face, and then they have this quantum computer that they can download consciences to, and then they upload them into this newly created body.
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So it was a cult of people though, and they said they want to live forever.
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So they were uploading their conscience and then downloading them into these new bodies, which to me is freaking weird, very sci-fi.
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Would you do it if you had the chance to live forever?
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Would you want to be immortal?
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I would want to live a couple, I don't know.
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200 years.
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Do I get money with this?
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Right, right.
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Like, am I gonna be well off or am I gonna struggle?
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Right.
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300 years.
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Right, I think.
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That would be a big depender.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm not.
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I don't know.
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If I was like Elon Musk, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Just to see what you advance.
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Um, I also found this new thing today.
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Uh trying to think of it.
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I got it wrote down in my text messages to look it up.
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But there was uh a program, like back when the computers well, two things.
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For one, do you know how the worldwide where the worldwide web was created?
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No.
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CERN.
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Oh CERN blew my mind.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So then um when computer, it was still in the 80s when we were first getting our computers and everything, there was this these people, and they created this program.
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You gotta have it like the old, old programs from there, though, to make it work.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can pull it up in a second.
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But what it was is um what's it called?
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The Looking Glass Project.
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Oh, yeah, I've seen something about it.
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So it was a glimpse into the future so they could jump into the future to see what was going on.
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Now, people are speculating that's why a lot of these NASA scientists are coming up missing a lot, is because a lot of them know what's going to happen, whether it be in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, but they know it's like the end of humanity and they don't want to be here for it.
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And then once they're about to expose it all, that's how it happens.
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But the um conscious download thing, do you remember when Kanye West put out that one tweet and it was a symbolism?
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But everybody thought that it was, you know, not what it really was.
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What he was showing you was the mark of that cult and what they were doing with making the mask, but that's when he was crazy talking, saying everybody's fake, and I believe Kanye.
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He's real, he's real.
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I do too.
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I mean, nobody believed him.
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We were like, oh, that's Kanye, you're being crazy.
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I don't know.
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I I always do those Kardashians.
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He was actually exposing that cult, what was going on.
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Yep, yep.
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And he claims that they he he that they sacrificed his mother.
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I a hundred percent believe that.
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If you look at all these uh Hollyweird people, uh-huh, a lot of them that get famous and have to do the deals with the Illuminati, they have to give something over.
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Jennifer Hudson, she lost two of her family members in one day at the same time.
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And then what happened?
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She exploded and got huge.
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I mean, it's sad, but people do it a lot.
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And then there's a lot of big names that like Bob Dylan that says, yeah, I made that deal with the devil to get famous, and I don't regret it.
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Yeah, that's the one of his thoughts, too, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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Um, the Eagles Hotel California, it's about, you know, about lifestyle.
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Chat supplement.
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Yeah.
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One of one of the I don't remember which bandmate it was.
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I don't know if it was guitarist or the drummer, but I just seen it the other day.
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He said that he wanted to get out of it, and that's when they basically knocked him off in a hotel room.
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Yeah.
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I mean these stories.
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Chateau Marmalot, right?
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Isn't that where that's at in LA, where all the a lot of famous people pass?
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Uh, I don't know the name of it.
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Like where they say people like rise again, like the dead never dies there.
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Yeah, I did an episode on that, and as bad as I want to go to Cali, there's so many places I I mean, I have to go to the Cecil before I die.
00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.279
But but I'm like, LA is such an evil place, man.
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I don't think my sensitivity, my energy, I just I'd be scared.
00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:16.240
I would want to go to I guess the Cecil, but like there's a lot of places to go negative energy there.
00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:18.000
That yeah.
00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.079
So what do you think?
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So how many are out alive now?
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Well, see, usually I talk a lot different on the podcast, but we're on TikTok, so I have to watch what I say.
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But um, how many is it at now?
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16.
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Yes.
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16.
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They're all scientists, right?
00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.119
Yes, and somehow worked for NASA.
00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:46.240
Um, here's a little interesting tidbit I found out today.
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The shooter that was just at the correspondence dinner the other night.
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My sister-in-law was a big deal.
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Before he became a teacher, he worked for NASA.
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Like, what?
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I mean, you wonder why people are gone.
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:20.640
It's just it's a lot of strange coincidences, but what really breaks my heart is if you're an ancient alien fan, and I have been for years and years, we have lost four people of ancient aliens in 2026.
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Big nose, what's his name?
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Short gray hair, UK British.
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God, what is his name?
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Eric Donhausen.
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And then Wilkinson.
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Yeah, and then the Wilkins or Wilkinson, that one.
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Yeah.
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Then that um there I hope that they protect the guy with the crazy hair.
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:43.119
What's his name?
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I love him.
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.519
Giorgio Sukla.
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Yeah, I hope they hope they.
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I actually have him in a frame in front of the pyramids here on my wall.
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Yeah, I love Giorgio.
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And there's uh another lady on there, and I hate that I can't remember her name.
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:09.440
Um she has brown hair and she's got these crazy eyebrows that like stand up and go this way, like they're doing their own thing.
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:17.920
But uh she's another one and she's been coming out with videos lately, and I'm like, stop, don't say nothing.
00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:34.400
Like maybe I think that they're uncovering a lot of truths that are not to be told yet, and that's what do you think one of the biggest cover of the truth is that they're scared about getting out?
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.960
That aliens are actually here.
00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:45.839
Or another theory is what if there's a big asteroid coming?
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And or what if we're in a simulation and they're just figuring it out now and we're going against the program be a big video game free play like The Sims.
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Not saying we are, but focuses only.
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This is entertainment.
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Um these are our thoughts only.
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Um I think that it's going to come out very soon with the whole alien thing.
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:35.359
I think the drones over Jersey was just to start getting our minds prepared to wrap around what's going to be happening.
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I think when it happens, it's gonna be very big.
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Big.
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I think it's I don't think humanity is 100% ready for what's coming.
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:53.279
Well, they don't want people to go into pure chaos and panic because we know what happens.
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Yeah, I mean, if you knew that something big was gonna happen, would you go to work?
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No, society would collapse.
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.039
Well, unfortunately, I thought going to work.
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We'd have to go because we still need money.
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.359
Yeah, but a lot of people want it.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, they're making these huge underground places.
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.799
Like, I know they used to in the fear of like nuclear bombs.
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:21.359
Yes.
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Yeah.
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.599
Well, now they have like whole cities underground.
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So the people that are going underground, they're gonna be safe.
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:41.599
There'll be some people left on the outside up here and the upside down that are gonna be safe, but I think it's gonna take out mostly everyone.
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.799
Yeah, what goes what goes up must come down.
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:46.319
What is down is up.
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:52.160
So I'm a big um look, I wanna bring I wanna bring this up because I know you'll want to talk about this.
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:57.359
So NASA stands for National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.319
So why are we not in the ocean more?
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Why are we always so fucking eager to go up to space?
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:09.839
We keep seeing this shit, and yet we don't, and you know that we have the technology to get down to that ocean.
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.359
Why are we not down there?
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:17.039
We have only discovered, I think, 10% of our oceans, and we quit.
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:17.759
But why?
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:28.799
And it's because our Navy is out there filming these spacecrafts coming in and out of the water just off the coast of California.
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:35.920
When these big drones were coming in Jersey, they were filming them coming out of the Atlantic Ocean.
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.039
So now we're talking about the Atlantic and the Pacific.
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.960
And that's not even all the other oceans around the world.
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.640
A lot of countries are very open with their people.
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:54.799
Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, they film it, they put it out for their people, they talk about it constantly.
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:58.240
They find alien remains, they give it.
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:03.200
I think we have aliens already.
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.119
I think we've captured them before.
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.039
I think we've captured them now.
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:19.440
I think we've already figured out their technology, and that's why we instated our new armed force for Space Force.
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:24.480
It's just like Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and space now.
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.839
So we did that for a reason.
00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:39.920
And I think uh I think fighting wars in other countries, we should be saving it right now for the bigger war that we are probably going to have.
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:46.079
But I mean, would you want to go in the ocean if you knew the aliens were there?
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.079
I mean, yeah, because I want truth.
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.599
Like I'd I mean, it'd be scary as hell, but I want the truth.
00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:01.920
I think that's why they well, they always tell people too, don't talk to dolphins.
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.880
I know, I'm glad you brought that up.
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.960
Yes, because they're so intelligent.
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:13.759
I know it's something like so crazy, but I mean, these are the kind of things that they're telling us.
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:18.400
So when you're telling us things like that, it makes us want to do it a little more.
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.319
Well, yeah, hell yeah.
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.039
So let me ask you this.
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:29.680
So these supposed scientists that were either Aeon alive or just passed away, natural causes, whatever.
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.799
Do you think that they're actually wiped off of Earth or do you think that they're in hiding?
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:45.359
I think the ones that they've went missing, they've captured and took them someplace.
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:51.279
Um okay, here's here's a little controversial.
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:59.039
I think a lot of times when people go missing, it's not because they're gone.
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:04.319
I think it's because they were captured and brought somewhere else.
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:12.400
If there is no traceable evidence, we're gonna just throw this out here for entertainment purposes.
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:22.640
Um, the Malaysia flight, a whole airplane of people that just disappeared with no wreckage, just vanished.
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.759
Bermuda Triangle planes vanishing.
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:37.440
Um, people forget we had the Philadelphia project where we made a whole entire Navy ship disappear and come back.
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:42.559
And when those men came back, some of them were like embedded into the metal.
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:50.000
So we know either how we know how to take things and put them in a different time.
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:50.480
Right.
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.079
We we already understand the time travel.
00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:14.480
I know there's this video I haven't got to a hundred percent debunk it, but it was uh interview of um a news lady and she was standing outside doing an interview, and it was like a little portal kind of you could see the waviness, and a guy walked right through it, and you're like, what the hell?
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.799
Like, why is nobody really talking about?
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:20.000
Why are we keeping that stuff so quiet?
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.400
Because we don't wanna we don't wanna know.
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.359
Well, this is why we do what we do, because we want truth.
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.640
We like truth, and we we do also like to debunk stuff.
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:32.640
We don't just sit around being like, oh, everything's paranormal, everything.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:41.920
No, like it's a lot of research, it's a lot of time spent, it's a lot of editing, it's a lot of like listening, re-listening, re-watching to your eyeballs feel like they're bleeding and they're dried out.
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:42.640
You know what I mean?
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:44.640
Like, and we don't get paid to do this shit.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:51.039
And there's a lot of times we pay good money to go to places and don't get nothing.
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:52.319
Nothing, not a scrape.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.839
It's the same thing as hunting.
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.039
Like my husband said.
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:55.440
Yeah.
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:02.720
When he hunts live restrictive for some audiences.
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No, I'm not gonna remove Don.
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Consuming substances featured in this live could harm your health.
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Okay, we're not 12.
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This is for entertainment purposes only.
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.240
I think they're talking about the V A P E S.
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Both of us.
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:19.839
Mm-hmm.
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:20.640
Okay.
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So did we get did we get kicked out?
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No.
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We got one viewer.
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If the one viewer can just put an emoji.
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Yeah, if you could just put something so we make sure that we're are we're still on live.
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.200
Oh yeah, it says consuming substances.
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.119
Stupid.
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:53.440
Anyway, we won't we won't do that no more.
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.160
Um I think I might have to restart the live.
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:57.599
That's okay.
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:00.240
Or we can just talk on here.
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.440
Who cares?
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Yeah.
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Oh my god, tick to.
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Oh no, someone joined.
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Wan, can you make can you put an emoji on so we can see that you're still on, so we know that we didn't get kicked off.
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.279
Debbie, can you give us an emoji, please?
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:18.559
Hi, Sean.
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We got we got trouble.
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:24.160
Yeah.
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.559
I didn't know if it was us talking about our conspiracy theory.
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:35.279
It's just like people have been bugging me for so long to get onto um YouTube to do my podcast.
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:36.640
I'm like, absolutely not.
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:48.720
There's way too many thresholds that like I have a guy on my Facebook that has that tinfoil uh tinfoil hat podcast, and he just got slammed and had to redo his whole page.
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.319
Debating theories on aliens UFOs and government conspiracies.
00:31:52.480 --> 00:32:02.400
Hey, can you guys go ahead and give us an emoji, anyone who's watching, so I can see that we can still be active on here.
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.680
We don't know if we gotta restart it.
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.079
I think we do have to restart it.
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J-Lo Save people.
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Tiki won.
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Oh, he's gone.
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:20.799
Oh boy.
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:32.160
Okay, I'm gonna we're gonna take a break on the podcast real quick, and then I'm gonna restart our live since we're schoolgirls and we're 12.
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.119
I could start it on mine and then add you if you go, do that.
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.839
Do it on your ghost whispers page so that you get.
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.319
Oh, I gotta go grab my tablet.
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:43.920
Okay, what do we're gonna take a break?
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.359
Alright, you guys, we'll be right back after our break.
00:32:54.319 --> 00:33:00.240
Hey everyone, we are back with all things spooky, conspiracies, and all the in-between.
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.759
And Dawn is back on her live because, like you guys heard, we did get flagged.
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.680
Uh, you never know on TikTok.
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.119
So, anyways, Dawn, go ahead, proceed with the show.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.960
You got a lot to talk about.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.240
Okay, I'm Dawn Martin.
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.720
I am the owner of the Ghost Whispers.
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.200
We're a paranormal team here in Metro Detroit area.
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.559
Uh, thank you again for having me on, Melissa.
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:36.880
I love coming back on your show and talking about all things paranormal, spooky, our adventures that we go on together.
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:37.279
Yeah.
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:47.200
We had another adventure together we didn't even get to talk about yet, where we took you to the Beal Manor in Fremont, Ohio.
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:48.720
Yes, yes.
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.640
That was quite the time.
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.240
It was a short stay, but a lot happened.
00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:58.400
It did.
00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.759
It was a a lot.
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:07.680
I've been there over a dozen times, and we had things happen that night that I never experienced there before.
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:14.719
So I don't know if it was the house was just vibing different that night.
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.599
Um, but we were also talking about Tyler Cemetery.
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:36.000
Shout out the TikToker that um put a TikTok out to show us, but um I can't remember their name off the top of my head, but yeah, it was everything intense.
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:49.360
Like they said, it was uh ghost car to orbs of light, and we were on TikTok live that night, and we were catching the orbs of light on TikTok live.
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:50.960
So over there was green.
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.599
The quarry, yeah.
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.840
Yeah, um, right over the quarry there was these orange lights.
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:01.599
Like we put the car in reverse.
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:08.079
I'm like, let's put the truck in reverse so we can have the backup cam just to see what's behind us.
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:19.920
And we seem like these glowy orangey lights, and but they were like spread really far apart, and then they would come closer together and they were coming at us.
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:20.639
Yes.
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:38.159
So I mean, and um a lot of like grunt sounds where we thought other investigators were in the cemetery with us, and we were seeing a lot of black shadowy things in the cemetery.
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:43.519
At one time it broke the light in front of the truck, the the headlights.
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:49.039
Like it walked in front of the headlights and broke the the light barrier.
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.039
What about that orb thing that we see now?
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.360
I'm like, oh god, are we gonna see a fairy again?
00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:01.039
Because that was that we we caught that while we were on Facebook Live.
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.480
That was incredible.
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.880
I've never got to see an orb of light in my face like that before.
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:07.920
Right, right.
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:16.639
Yeah, it looked like someone like if you were to like flip a quarter, but like think of like a mirror and like someone shining a spotlight on it, that's how bright it was.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.400
It was like this big.
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.760
Can you see me?
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.199
It was quite amazing.
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:24.079
Yeah.
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.320
Yeah, it wasn't real big.
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.400
It wasn't like this big ball of light.
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.679
It was only like this big.
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:56.079
Um, so we first dealt with because this is already recording on the podcast, we don't want to go over everything twice, but there was a ghost car, there was a lot of grunting, there was a lot of orbs of light, there were shadow people, um, big black masses, things coming up next to the car and then ducking down.
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:58.079
Well, we were telling spooky stories.
00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.920
We stayed out there for a few hours.
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:06.000
We were telling spooky stories, and I feel like it was all coming to that cemetery.
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:07.599
Yeah.
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:17.920
So we might have we were actually out looking for another cemetery that was an abandoned Indian burial ground.
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:18.239
Yeah.
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:29.920
But it's been abandoned for so long that there's houses all around it now, and it's just like a really well-kept piece of land that we thought it was somebody's front yard, honestly.
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:31.039
We had to go there.
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.199
Like it would have been anything.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:39.760
Yeah, now that we know exactly the coordinates, I mean, this place was so hard for me to even find.
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.719
I Google searched it and it came up on an old map quest.
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.679
So it was like those kind of directions.
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.440
But when you pull it up on Google Maps, nothing comes up.
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:52.000
No.
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.639
So it was kind of hard to find.
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.440
And we were in the dark trying to find it.
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:04.719
We figured it out at like three o'clock in the morning when I was already at home looking at the phone, like, where is this place?
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:06.960
Can't go to bed until we figure it out.
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:07.840
Oh my god.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:16.480
And um But that was Do you feel like since And you have Oh, go ahead.
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:23.920
I was saying, do you think because you have native in you, do you think that you're more prone to finding those little gems?
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.519
Like you have to see them?
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:44.239
I don't know what the the draw to it is, but it's I've always had a a fascination with the Indians and the burial sites in particular.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:50.800
Like I wanna visit them and give my respects, like, not to be disrespectful.
00:38:50.960 --> 00:39:02.320
I don't want anybody to think that, but just to like pay the the good respects and I don't know.
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:03.920
And treasure the life.
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.480
Something that draws you in, though.
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:07.840
Yeah, for sure.
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.360
It's it's like hidden.
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:15.679
I I feel like cemeteries in general, I'm very drawn to.
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.920
Um, like I feel like I can't stay out of them.
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.800
I feel like I just need to be in one all the time.
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:29.440
I don't know what the fascination with it is, but I've always been that way.
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.119
Yeah, there's a there's a word for that.
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:32.880
Some people are like that.
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:38.639
You know that there's a word for that if you're like obsessed with cemeteries.
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:40.159
Oh.
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.000
Did you know that?
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:44.000
I didn't.
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:48.960
Obsessed with cemeteries.
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:05.519
Okay, so tapophilia, the passion for enjoyment of cemeteries, often involving photography, history, and genealogy.
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.280
Tombstone Taurus.
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.960
Um, oh, this is the one that I remember from TikTok.
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:22.400
I don't know if I'm saying it right, but coin comin coin atrophilia, a term for special five curiosity.
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.199
I don't know how to say it, but so it's funny.
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:42.719
Um, just one year ago today, I was actually in a cemetery, it popped up in my Facebook memories, out there scrubbing the the stones that were covered in moss with D, it's called D2 cleaner.
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:47.760
You use that in water, a scrub brush, and a scraper.
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:52.159
And it makes them look that big white color.
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:56.239
Yeah, yeah, that's great that you I know bright white.
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:56.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.840
So I love going to Cemetery.
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.880
I mean Savannah go there several times a year and we pick up the trash.
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:13.920
Uh and I'm talking like old, forgotten, historical ones that are like literally in the middle of a neighborhood that nobody visits.
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:14.400
Yes.
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.440
Um we go and we clean them up.
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.800
Yep, we go clean up the trash, pick up the sticks, make sure they look good.
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:40.239
Savannah goes around and unburries stones that, you know, the earth starts growing over, and we'll take our cleaner out there, make sure they're scrubbed up so more generations of people just like us can go out there and take care of them.
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.400
And um, one day, I don't even know how I did it.
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:56.159
It was like I a GPS in my brain or something, but I walked behind this really tall stone and I was crying because somebody spray painted it, and I was so upset over it.
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.760
And I went behind it and I seen like this little dip in the sand, and I was like, what's that?
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.480
And I started poking at it with a stick.
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:12.639
I don't know why I was digging a hole, but I found a whole sim a whole gravestone buried like literally up to my kneecap.
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:22.159
So now I go there and I keep undigging it because it's so far down in there, and it's not like you can just put your fingers in there and pull it up.
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:33.119
So I know it's gonna eventually get covered again by the earth, but I'll do what I can do to make sure that people know it's there.
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:45.519
And another little interesting thing, it was like about 10 years ago, somebody had dropped off cremate cremation remains in that cemetery.
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.440
Oh, I remember you telling me this.
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.400
That's crazy.
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:49.119
Yeah.
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:50.400
They just didn't want them.
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:55.199
So they just didn't want them no more, and they dropped them off in there.
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:08.079
They figured, well, it's a cemetery, and maybe their family, because this place is a German one, so maybe their family was German, I don't know, but it was quite interesting.
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.639
But yeah, me and Savannah, we love going out and cleaning.
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:18.000
Um, we do Wayne Historical Cemetery every year with them.
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.079
They haven't did their big cemetery cleanup yet this year.
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.760
I've been emailing them to make sure that we can get in there to help out with that.
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:44.320
We do the um the girls from phenomena team, they do the adopt a highway, and we volunteer our time to go and clean up trash all the way from Eloise Insane Asylum on Michigan Avenue.
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.400
Like, we'll do it for a mile where we do both sides of the road.
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:51.519
Like four miles.
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:52.079
Yeah.
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:52.480
Yeah.
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.920
I know I think so.
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.760
Like, we like doing a lot of charity work for the community.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.880
Like wherever we can.
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:09.039
That's local to us to help keep things nice and clean and neat.
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:14.400
You guys, again, this is gone from the Ghost Whisperers.
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.000
So where can you where can they find you besides TikTok?
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.960
You you can find me on Facebook.
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.440
And um, yeah, that's it.
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.599
Facebook and TikTok right now.
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:33.199
Because our other pages got shut down and we're rebuilding them, but we're an established team.
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.519
It don't look like that on Facebook right now, but we are.
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:43.280
You are we're just um rebuilding our our pages up again.
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.440
Our team evolved, I guess we would say.
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:53.840
So now it's basically me and Savannah, mother-daughter going out, still doing what we love.
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.320
Savannah's literally been doing this since she was four with me.
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:07.280
I've always taken her out to cemeteries and little ghost hunts, and yeah, so she developed a passion for it when she was 18.
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.039
She was like, I want to join the team.
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:23.199
I was like, come on, join my team, then I'm on, and then we uh we ended up breaking away from that team and joined an all-female team, and then then I was like, you know what?
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.599
The owner of that team was moving away.
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.480
Let's create our own little thing, and here we are today, still going.
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.920
Dawn puts a lot of time and energy.
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:39.599
Um, she has an awesome logo that was handmade for her, just for her.
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.480
Um, she has a lot of merch.
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:52.400
She has actually Dawn's planning on coming onto the podcast more, and she's gonna like start like doing giveaways on like her merch and stuff.
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.880
Now, I wanna do a quick uh QA with you because you're so interesting.
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:09.840
Um so you're in your spooky room right now, so if you if you had to run out of your house and grab, obviously you're gonna grab Eddie too, right?
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:11.360
And the dog.
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:20.320
But if you could only grab three spooky items out of your spooky room, what three items would they be and why?
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:26.079
Well, I'm definitely grabbing my dolls.
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:34.400
Uh that's I'm just gonna call that one because if I had to pick between all of them, it would be Ouija.
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:48.800
Um, I would grab my paranormal equipment, my especially my font box that was made for me by Jeff N.
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:54.159
Like it's made from the wood from Madison Seminary in Fairfield County.
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:04.719
And I would have to grab my either my Ouija board or my crystals.
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.119
That's hard, isn't it?
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.159
It's fucking hard.
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.800
It's hard because I'm looking at the voodoo dolls.
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:19.679
Like, I'd want to take that, but I'd want to take all my haunted relics too, and just different places.
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:27.119
Like, I have cabinets just full cramped full in here of just a lot of stuff.
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.199
Don has like items from the poultry guys.
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.599
Go ahead, go on, tell him.
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:42.960
Um, I have uh wood chips from like the poultry guys chair that I got from Creepy Crates.
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.039
Um I got stuff from the conjuring house.
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:54.559
I have things from um Billy Creek Village.
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.199
I have stuff from Madison Seminary, Beal Manor.
00:47:59.440 --> 00:47:59.920
Eloise.
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:01.440
I'm looking around right now.
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:02.559
Eloise.
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:15.039
I have, I actually went metal detecting on the sheriff's side, the sheriff's office next to Eloise with the Wayne County Sheriff, too.
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:23.360
We were in, it was like we hit pay dirt one day and we found a whole bunch of pottery, and that's before they found it.
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:31.039
So we went through and we grabbed little garbage bags out of his car, and we were just putting all kinds of pottery in our bags.
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:38.079
So I found medicine bottles and plates and cups and all kinds of things, so I brought that home.
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:45.440
Um I I volunteered a lot of my time for a lot of years at Eloise for the Paranormal.
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:45.760
Sure.
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:48.800
Never even got paid for it.
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.159
Um, like a lot of us Michigan teams did.
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:53.920
Absolutely.
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.800
And uh and it was worth it.
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:03.840
I mean, we all loved that building so much, and unfortunately, it's just not the same.
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.760
No, it's not as haunted as it used to be.
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:21.760
I think they um, I think those spirits kind of that we knew are not there no more, or they changed the story, or they moved on.
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.760
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:27.760
So I'm gonna stick with the theme three, because three is my number, right?
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:28.880
So, and 13.
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:29.199
Okay.
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:31.840
So I asked you three things that you would take.
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:48.400
Alright, so I'm gonna ask you from two years ago up until now, what are three things that you've realized have changed in the paranormal community within yourself, and what did you learn from them?
00:49:50.159 --> 00:50:03.519
In the paranormal community, I see a lot of teams, brand new people, and some even older, but mostly the brand new people that are coming in and thinking they're experts.
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:15.280
And they they want to tear you apart and tell you what you're doing wrong or how you don't have this high-tech equipment.
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:25.840
Um, I tell everybody how to make equipment for dirt cheap, how you can make things for$20, like REM pods and music boxes.
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.719
Like, you don't have to buy the big fancy stuff.
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:33.360
You can you can always start cheap, and there's YouTube.
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.800
They teach you how to make your own equipment.
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.800
Um, so don't listen to other people.
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.440
Nobody is an expert in this field.
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:49.920
I don't care how long they say they, I don't care if they've been doing it for 30 years, they're not an expert.
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:59.199
This field is so vast and big, and there's so many subtypes of the paranormal.
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.960
Some people are in it for research, some are in it for scientific.
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.559
There's so many different reasons that people are in it.
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.119
It might just be a passion or a hobby.
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.360
So don't ever let anybody tell you they're doing it wrong.
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.480
Um, what was the other questions?
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:24.320
So, like, what are three things that you've learned in the last two years from like yourself being in the paranormal community?
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.159
Like you either like your own team, you, and like the whole community.
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:33.280
Like, what are three things that you see, seen or see still, and that you've learned from?
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:34.960
So that's one thing.
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.679
Yeah, don't be an expert.
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:51.440
Um, people will use you in this field to further themselves in this field, and you don't have to be everybody's cup of tea.
00:51:51.760 --> 00:52:01.519
Be your own authentic self and do what makes you happy, and however you gather evidence is good for you.
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:08.639
You don't have to share everything with everybody either, unless you want to.
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:09.760
Absolutely.
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:26.000
There's a lot of people that have just really take advantage of you in this field and use you for your contacts or your experience, and it's fine if they want to.
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:32.880
Hi, it's you know, if you're wanting to show people how, but just don't let people use you.
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:38.960
I feel like that was a big lesson I had to learn over this past year.
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:43.039
Um, evolving in yourself, that's another thing.
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.719
Like there is nothing wrong.
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:59.280
You're not the same person you were a year ago, and that's great because that means you're growing as a person, you're constantly learning because the paranormal is so vast that you have to evolve with it.
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:05.679
You you're not gonna, I don't believe in the same things that I believed in seven years ago.
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.920
I my it's so much more.
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.039
Like I always thought, oh, it's just ghost.
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.760
You know, it's just this or that.
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:23.039
I didn't realize how deep and intricate everything gets as you go along.
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:24.000
Right.
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.039
So that that I think that's great advice.
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:44.079
And I always like the listeners out there, like I have a a lot of listeners that I really try to get to engage, like, you know, now on the bus route um app directly through there, you can send me a direct message, it will come straight to my phone as a text, or you can leave like a voicemail.
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:45.840
So a lot of people don't engage.
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.800
I I see this, but they're downloading and I like it.
00:53:48.960 --> 00:54:01.280
But I'm always like, you know, I wonder who out there does what we do and who is just like really fascinated by it, and who is just like, oh come on, this is bullshit, but they can't stop listening to it, you know.
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:16.880
So for the people that are listening that do do this or want to do this, I like from someone else, you know, wise words and what we've learned, all of us have learned from being in the field, you know, and how we've evolved, right?
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.079
So I like to ask questions.
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:20.960
I like that.
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:22.000
I like QA's.
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.519
All right, I got three more for you.
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:24.800
These are short ones, okay?
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:25.760
QA's.
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:26.639
Okay.
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.480
Okay, yay or nay on each one of these famous people.
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.559
You can explain why, you don't have to.
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:33.840
You can just say yay, nay.
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.159
Okay?
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:35.280
Yay, nay game.
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:35.920
Okay.
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:38.639
First one, Steve Shippy.
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:41.599
Yay.
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:42.800
Okay.
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.679
I think he's legit.
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:46.639
Okay, cool.
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.199
Have you been to the Steve Shippy museum?
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:51.280
I have not.
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.000
The Geo Box is badass.
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:55.599
If I had the money.
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.360
I have got to use a Geo Box with Jeff Fent.
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:00.559
Geo Box 2.
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:01.840
Okay, I was gonna bring him up.
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:07.599
If I had the money, I would love for Jeff Fent to make a huge ass geo box for us.
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:08.639
That would be so dope.
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:10.079
That'd be so much money.
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.199
I mean, that's basically what we all have.
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:19.280
He just he created the Fent boxes from Geo Box, so I know.
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.840
But I have got to use the original Geobox.
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:24.559
Every bit amazing.
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:29.199
I just want like a wall one, and I want to walk up to it and say, tell me everything I want to hear.
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.079
Like a mirror on the wall, you know?
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:34.800
Okay, um, second one.
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:36.320
Oh, hold on, I had these in my head.
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.519
Steve Shippy.
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.480
Um, okay, the Warrens.
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.079
Yay or nay.
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.119
I say yay.
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:46.159
See, Tom.
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:54.880
I think I think they were leaders that really taught people about the paranormal.
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.079
I think the paranormal would still be a lot lower without them exposing.
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:01.679
Paving, paving the way.
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:10.400
So Tom and I got kind of got into like a heated discussion through text messages the other night because he was like, Oh, I watched this documentary and I told you they were fake.
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:16.960
And I'm like, here's the thing, like, they might have dramatized some shit, and they but they were in the field way before that.
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.960
They were had already been in the field, they were already paving the way.
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:28.800
I feel like they were trendsetters for us, so that people, it wasn't so woo-woo.
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.719
Hollywood made them look fake.
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:33.760
Yeah, absolutely.
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:38.000
Doing Annabelle movies and conjuring movies and things like that.
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:38.960
That's interesting.
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:53.199
And if they couldn't help somebody, they would refer them out to somebody that could help.
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:53.599
Yep.
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.599
They were there to just give advice and do what they could do.
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:03.519
Not everybody can go into a house and say, I'm gonna rid your house of ghosts.
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:10.480
You you you have to go through a process and know what you're really doing to rid this house of ghosts.
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.519
And not every ghost is the same.
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.679
You're not gonna be able to help some people where you can help others.
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.840
So I think that's where people's misconceptions come in.
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.760
Okay, so I'm gonna skip this third one, but I'm gonna ask a new question.
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.760
Why do you think so?
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.559
During the during the pandemic, you know, like paranormal like really took off, right?
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:34.320
In Hollywood and on TB.
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.599
Now we're seeing a decline again.
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:46.239
So do you think that's better for people like us that are actually in the field, like legitimately in the field, or do you think that hurts us?
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:53.920
Okay, so I might be a little selfish in this, but I think it actually helps us.
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:54.320
Okay.
00:57:54.559 --> 00:58:06.719
I think when people got bored and they were wanting to do ghost hunting and getting into it a little more, they were actually they're hurting us because it's harder for us to go and book locations.
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:14.000
Before five, seven years ago, everything was open all the time.
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:20.800
Now you're like months and months out, like everything's book solid because there's all these brand new teams.
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:21.760
Right, right.
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:36.320
Selfish me says, but then grateful me says, yay, because they're contributing, they're sharing evidence, they're sharing ideas, thoughts, concerns, you know.
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:50.639
Um, yeah, I think everybody has something to offer, especially if you're if somebody's doing a podcast or going on Facebook and telling me a story about something I appreciate.
00:58:50.880 --> 00:59:01.519
I I appreciate them sharing their story and letting us know because that's something we might want to try, we might want to do somewhere we might want to go.
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:02.800
So yeah.
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:04.079
Cool.
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:04.880
I like it.
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:06.159
I like it and hate it.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:07.679
It's a double-edged sword.
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:08.239
Sure.
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:08.880
I like that.
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:10.400
I like how you explain that.
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.840
I love doing cues and a's with people that I interview on here.
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:15.519
I just, it's so fascinating for me.
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:16.960
And you want to know something?
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.280
I never write these questions down.
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:21.599
Oh, I love it.
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:23.760
I love that you can think of those on the spot.
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.880
I because it's certain people that I get, I'm like, okay, I think I know, I'm gonna ask her.
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:30.880
Yeah.
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:32.719
Those are good too.
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:33.280
Thanks.
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:34.400
Your answers were great.
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.159
You went, you're very, um, you explained very well, I think.
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:40.079
And I thank you.
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:40.960
Yeah.
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:48.079
I did just share a story because it just happened a few days ago.
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:58.239
And when I went to Salem, Massachusetts with my husband, who, which does not like ghosts at all, but we were standing in a cemetery.
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:06.000
If you go to my Don Martin Facebook page or Ghost Whispers Facebook page, the stories on there.
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:19.039
Um, we we were in the cemetery, we were about 10 stones in, and a woman walked up to us and she said, Hey, did you happen to see that first stone when you walked into the cemetery?
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:22.400
And I'm like, Yeah, I probably took a picture of it.
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:23.679
And I was like, why?
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:30.559
And she was like, Oh, well, it's 300 years to the day today on that stone.
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:32.559
And I was like, No way, really.
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:38.000
So I turned to my husband and we start talking, and we went to walk over there.
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:39.840
The woman was gone.
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:43.119
That it still gives him the goosebumps.
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.360
I know he told Melissa the story when she came over.
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.639
He was legitimately still scared telling the story.
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:49.840
I could see it in his face.
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:50.960
Yeah.
01:00:51.599 --> 01:01:15.920
And it happened eight years ago when we went, and it just popped back up in my Facebook memory, so I shared it again with the story, but that was the only time I've ever had a spirit manifest and talk to me like that, and then disappear, just to tell me a story of something I should look at and then disappear.
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:22.159
And if you've been to the cemetery, there's no high walls, it's like very low high.
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:22.719
Yeah.
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:26.320
You can see all around the streets.
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:30.400
I took pictures to show that she was just gone.
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.639
I'm when he seen she was just gone, he was like, I'm out of here.
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:36.079
You see that building over there?
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.599
I'm standing on the other side of that building and I'm done.
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.480
So he kind of he split.
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.840
He was like, Take time, but I can't be in here this scared me.
01:01:47.039 --> 01:02:00.480
Yeah, I mean, I like when people tell stories like that because they're it's intriguing, and you're like, Oh, I want to go there and see if I can experience this kind of thing too.
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.800
Like, uh I like going to places on their anniversary.
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.840
That's really yeah, that's intriguing.
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.119
That's smart too.
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:15.119
Which I think the bath school just happened 100-year anniversary.
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:16.559
Did it happen already?
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:17.440
Did I miss it?
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:18.159
I think it did.
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.239
Was it this year or last year?
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:21.199
Yeah.
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:31.840
I think, um, I think on anniversary dates like that, spirit is more connected to their final resting place.
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:40.079
That's just my little theory alone, but I think um the first sometimes you get lucky.
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:47.440
The first apparition I ever seen was at Eloise's um on the third floor.
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.679
And then there was another time at Eloise after the Wranglers.
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.519
So Linda did a um last call and wrangled the.
01:02:55.679 --> 01:03:01.199
I think we were on the fourth floor, and I seen this young kid walking into the room and then he disappeared.
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:02.000
Gave me chills.
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:06.639
But I'm gonna tell you the scariest one because this is actually coming up on the anniversary that it happened.
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:11.119
I got the a I got the apparition on a picture on the fourth floor.
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:11.840
Yeah.
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.679
So May, it's actually May 4th, of course.
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.519
You know, May the 4th be with you.
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:20.400
Alright, this happened almost.
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.119
No, so the pandemic was six years ago.
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.719
Okay, so this had to be like at least five years ago, right?
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.119
I'm talking to my one girlfriend on the phone, and I I always walk up and down.
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.239
I like to pace at night and walk when I'm talking.
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:44.800
I'm on 14 mile and I'm walk- you know, I always feel safe, but I see this girl, this woman walking towards me, okay?
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:50.960
And she has like old lacy lingerie like nightcown on, okay?
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.519
And I I'm like, oh, that's weird.
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:55.519
So she has no shoes on.
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:57.039
Okay, barefoot.
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:01.599
Her toenails looked like it had blue tie uh blue nail polish on it.
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.719
I'm like, oh, okay, maybe she just I wouldn't walk like that with glass and shit, but whatever.
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:18.480
And as she passes, so like right before we pass, I felt very like my brain was like on fire, and then I went really cold.
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:32.800
And I looked over at her and she was, it looked like she was so distraught, sad, um, lost, and I was just like, oh my god, like I can't explain the feeling.
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.119
I was just like, I could not shake it.
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:41.920
And my old friend Corbus, not the girlfriend I hang out with now, but she was like, hello, hello, are you Mel, are you there?
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:46.800
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm just I don't know if something like I just passed this lady.
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:48.159
I just I have a bad feeling.
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:51.679
Like, I feel like she got out of her bed in the middle of the night.
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.880
I don't know if she was in trouble and she like hurried up and got out, right?
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:56.559
That's the feeling I got when she passed.
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:57.760
And then I got really upset.
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.199
I started crying.
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:06.800
And Chris was like, I want to know what the hell is going on because there was this like noise on the phone.
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.480
It was so loud and screeching.
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:14.400
She's like, I kept screaming at you, telling you, Mal, Mal, what the She's like, I thought you got hit by a car.
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.000
And I'm like, what?
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:17.920
And I'm like, oh my god.
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.559
So I'm actually getting a little bit of a headache talking about.
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:26.000
So I like got to the house, go in the garage, and I come back out, and I'm like, no, screw this.
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:27.519
Like, I think something's wrong with her.
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:28.800
Like, I want to go check on her.
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.280
It was just like an overwhelming sad feeling, right?
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.199
I'm just like, something's wrong with her.
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:39.519
So I go back, I go walk back down the street halfway, and these I didn't know that they were foreign.
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:44.320
Poor people, they don't speak English, but they were like unloading their car with groceries.
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:49.119
And I'm like, I'm like, hi, hello to the lady, and she's like, no English, no English.
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:50.400
And I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry.
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:55.519
So her husband walks and has the same look as this woman did that I passed.
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.400
And I'm like, I'm sorry, maybe I'm weird.
01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.679
I'm like, I live right there on Star.
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.320
I'm like, I'm not, I'm not like a weirdo or whatever.
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:03.440
And he's like, no, you're fine.
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:04.320
He's like, I know.
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.639
The woman that walked by, I don't know.
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:08.880
And I'm like, wait, you've seen her too?
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:09.440
Wow.
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.079
And he's like, yeah, yeah, but we we don't speak English.
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:13.360
I have to go inside.
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:14.079
I don't feel good.
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:15.199
And I'm like, what?
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:17.679
I'm like, what just happened?
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:19.920
And I never seen her again.
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:24.320
But then I was thinking about it, and I don't think it was blue nail polish on her toes.
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:26.639
I think it was they were like blue.
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:27.360
I don't know.
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:28.800
It was like the weird, it just.
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.079
I literally was walking and it just happened.
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:32.880
You know what I mean?
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:45.039
But my friend said that it sounded like screeching so loud that she literally thought that someone came up onto like the boulevard and hit me because it she's like, I kept screaming for you.
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:47.440
Wow.
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:49.360
But that was about, yeah, it was like five.
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:57.920
Have you have you had a spirit actually that was an apparition speak to you?
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.239
Like how we did at the cemetery.
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.320
No, she me and my husband.
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.079
She did not speak to me at all.
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.679
She looked at me like her eyes were like this.
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.480
Like she looked like zomped out.
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.719
She hadn't slept in a hundred years, and she had cried for like 50 years.
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:16.320
But she like looked at me.
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:24.400
And I like, I like as soon as I passed her, I felt overwhelmed and sad, and like something was wrong.
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:30.800
So maybe she passed and was like pass, like literally passing me, and like maybe she didn't know what was happening I don't know.
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:32.639
Like maybe she was confused.
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:34.800
Yeah.
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:41.280
Well, they say down at that uh Gangong, am I pronouncing it wrong?
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:42.239
No, I think you're pronouncing it.
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:54.559
Down the street from Eloise's Gangong Cemetery, that there's a woman that um was hit by a car on Henry Rough, so now she walks down that road.
01:07:54.719 --> 01:08:04.239
But do you know how many car accidents they have had on Henry Rough of people trying to swerve to miss hitting this lady on the road?
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:04.960
Oh my god.
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:09.199
Like there's been so many stories I could pull up articles for you.
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:16.239
Um, yeah, there's been a lot of car accidents of people trying to swerve to not hit this woman on the road.
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.640
Wow, and she's a spirit.
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:20.159
Yeah.
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:28.800
That's like um spirit can do some weird things like people don't talk about.
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.840
I know you go to soup all the time.
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.880
And you didn't know right outside of soup.
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:43.119
I don't know if you showed your friend when you were there, if you put your car in neutral, you can get the spirits to push your car.
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:43.600
Yeah.
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:49.439
And it that was the craziest thing to have well, you taught me that.
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:50.880
Yeah.
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:55.359
I I learned it from other investigators years ago.
01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:04.000
I think it's like on um one of the haunted things in Michigan sites, too, where I first seen it.
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.640
Me, you and Tom did it and it worked.
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:08.159
Yeah.
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:11.520
It tried to push us in the woods.
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:12.560
Yeah, no shit.
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:14.399
And that's water down there.
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:15.840
Yeah.
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.520
Yeah, there's actually Velvet Lake down there.
01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:36.560
So you know, you just like think back on all these experiences that you've had, and do you ever just be like, wow, like for me to say each experience back to back to back that I can remember, people are probably out there, they're probably like, wow, these they're fucking crazy.
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.319
I know I go somewhere once a month.
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.520
Like, I'm constantly booking places.
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.840
You're actually going on another investigation with me this year.
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:56.640
We are going to the Asher Asher Walton Mansion in June.
01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:07.439
And that's a place I've never been, you've never been, and it reminds me of the mansion down there in Indiana, down the street from uh Randolph.
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:08.079
Yeah.
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.159
That General's mansion.
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:18.560
It's it has like those two different staircases to take you up there, and yeah, that place looks wild.
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.880
I'm really excited for that one.
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:25.439
I was gonna ask you, since I'm going by myself, how far away is that place?
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.039
Again, four hours?
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:29.920
I think it's like four hours.
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:31.680
You can ride with me in Savannah.
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:32.239
Okay.
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:34.560
Well, I'll take my cart.
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.560
Okay, I'll give you gas.
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:37.520
Yeah.
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.079
No, we'll be fine.
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:41.199
We'll be fine.
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:42.960
We're going there anyway.
01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:52.479
We actually want to go visit one of our old stomping grounds, a haunted Masonic Lodge.
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:53.279
Yes.
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.000
Since we're gonna be so close to it, it'll be like 40 minutes away.
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:58.880
Nice.
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.159
Hell yeah.
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:01.600
Yeah.
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:08.239
It was at 1851 Haunted Masonic Lodge number 66.
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:09.439
Nice, yeah.
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:22.800
But since then it's been sold to new owners, and I don't we haven't talked to them yet, but I know they're running like a resale shop out of it.
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:28.399
So I'm sure if they have a haunting, they're just gonna think it's something that they have in their store for sale.
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:29.680
I hope you can get back in there.
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:41.039
I can show them video proof, be like, no, I was in here during this whole time for seven months every freaking week, driving four hours to Indiana.
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:42.079
Yeah.
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:46.399
But um I hope you can get back in there.
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.159
I think you'll be able to.
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.359
Oh yeah, I just need to talk to them.
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:52.479
Yeah, for sure.
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:54.720
I think I can get back in there.
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:55.680
Nice.
01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:01.520
Show them what evidence we collected, and sorry about your walls.
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:06.800
We um I don't.
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.600
We were like really investigating that night.
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:21.600
The basement was like a stacked stone, and um, there was one wall that had cinder blocks, and it it was perfectly cut out like a doorway.
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:26.560
And I told the owner, I'm like, there's something behind the cinder block, like, I know there is.
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:30.880
He's like, next time you guys come out, bring some tools, we'll we'll knock it down.
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:35.760
So we came out like two weeks later and brought a sledgehammer.
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:42.239
We had like a little camera thing that would go through the wall so we could see behind the brick and everything.
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:48.319
And I told him, you gotta hit it with the hammer because we're just paranormal investigators.
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.640
We're not destroying your property.
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:54.399
But if you want to do it to your own property, we'll investigate it.
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.079
But let's see what's behind that wall.
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:56.560
Yeah, yeah.
01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:03.359
So we made it this huge Facebook live, and I felt like it was a El Capone opening the vault moment.
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.960
Um, we got through one set of cinder blocks to find another set.
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:15.439
So the Masons really sealed up this real deep.
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:28.239
So then we had to get like a chisel and try to chisel through the next layer, and we were able to put like sneaky camera through there, and it was still so much brick we couldn't see through there again.
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:35.199
I was like, man, I would have just wished we would have like took out a whole cinder block now.
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:40.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:42.159
The ad to your collection.
01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:50.800
I mean, I have a brick and I have some of the flooring from there, and I'm grateful, and I have wood.
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.760
So I mean, I have a whole lot from that place.
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:54.640
Nice.
01:13:54.880 --> 01:14:02.479
I basically got to so I have the checkered board flooring from the Masonic uh flooring.
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:08.000
I have wood from the place, and I have a brick from the building.
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:11.359
Oh, you're at 5k likes right now, lady.
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:13.760
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01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:30.239
Yep.
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:31.039
Yep, yep.
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.039
So you can hear it from the beginning.
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:34.159
Heck yeah.
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:35.920
It's a good episode.
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:38.720
Is there any And again?
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If you want to follow us on our spooky adventures, it's me and Savannah.
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.079
We are the Ghost Whispers.
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:55.600
You can follow us along on Facebook, TikTok, or follow my name, Dawn Martin, on Facebook or TikTok and Spooky Staff.
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.199
Yeah, Dawn goes everywhere and anywhere.
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:02.079
Like this woman's been all over the country.
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:03.600
Yes.
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.000
We once a month.
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:15.039
Um this month, coming up May, I'm going to be going down to the Ohio, West Virginia border to the Ross House.
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:15.520
Nice.
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.640
And I think we're gonna go over to where the Mothman was.
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:19.279
Good.
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:20.159
I love it over there.
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:21.680
Should be good.
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:22.319
Yeah.
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:29.600
It'd be my second time there, but it's part of the Underground Railroad, a lot of history.
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.439
I love doing a big history thing when we go somewhere like that.
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:39.279
I love giving the whole history part of it as well as the paranormal.
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.399
I think the history is just as important.
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:48.159
Now, is there any other is there another conspiracy that you want to go over?
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:50.399
Are you gonna save it for next time?
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:53.199
We can save it for next time.
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:53.840
Okay.
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.640
I think we got a lot out in this episode.
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:57.520
I think there's a lot.
01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:58.239
We did.
01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:00.479
We did paranormal and alien.
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:01.439
Yeah.
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:01.840
Yeah.
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:08.159
The next one we can do a whole conspiracy thing because um there's too much.
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:09.439
I'll be ready.
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:10.720
There's a lot.
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.760
I mean, I'm a flat earther too.
01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:16.479
I would love to talk about that on another episode.
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:17.840
Nice, nice.
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:18.800
Hell yeah.
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:19.840
Yes.
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.359
Well, thank you, Don, for joining me tonight in this episode.
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.720
I will call it total spooky chaos, right?
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:28.880
Right, right.
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:32.880
You guys again, this is Dawn Martin from the Ghost Whisperers.
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:35.119
You can find her on Facebook and TikTok.
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:38.720
She also has a separate page under Don Martin.
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.039
Um, both platforms.
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:42.720
You have two pages, right?
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:44.319
Yes.
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:44.960
Okay.
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:53.359
So she has been the um, you know, owner of this Ghost Whisperers team for what, four or five years now?
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:55.119
Four years.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.319
Four, I think four years, yep.
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:10.000
So I um really appreciate what Dawn does in the field, and she always has ideas and she's going everywhere and anywhere, so we're all just trying to keep up.
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:14.159
Thank you.
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:19.279
Yeah, but we will be chatting soon, and thank you guys again for listening.