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What's up guys?
Still French show episode 56.
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I got the main man in the
building.
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Big fight coming up.
I got Augie, Josh, Augustine in
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the building.
Where were you born and raised?
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I was born right outside of St.
Louis, MO.
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Yeah, how big of a town?
Where I grew up was not like I
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wouldn't call it like small
small town like where my family
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is.
It's a little more small town,
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like 100,000.
Yeah, I'd say a couple, really a
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couple 100,000, couple 100,000.
Waterloo is probably like
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because I actually did my OSIT
training at Fort Leonard.
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Wood, that's what I was going to
ask you.
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OK.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So it's like, yeah, yeah.
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So it's like not far, far from
where where we're at.
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So, yeah, that's like O'Fallon,
Illinois, right around there.
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Yeah.
My family is mostly in like
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Monroe County like.
We grew up in like Kokia, Kokia
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Heights area and then now ball
like migrated like a little bit
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more Southwest.
So did you play any other sports
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growing up in Missouri?
Oh yeah.
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I mean, I played everything
growing up.
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I'm mostly.
That's like how I kind of got
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into it was basketball,
baseball, football, soccer.
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Just kind of just played
everything growing up.
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And then my freshman year, I got
like mono, strep throat, some
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like crazy shit before
basketball tryouts.
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And I was going to just play
basketball and I thought I was
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in good.
I was like, oh, I'm.
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I'm good enough, like the coach
just going to let me on team.
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And I didn't go to one day of
the tryouts and they cut me and
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I was like so heartbroken.
I didn't know what to do.
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And then like not even a week
later I was just rolling around
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on scooters and fucking bikes
and shit with my friends, just
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mobbing around in town and
rolled past my first gym that I
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trained at and just like saw in
the window.
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I saw like cages and boxing
rings and stuff.
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And I'd like seen the UFC on TV
before and I was just like, you
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know, into other sports and
shit.
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And I saw it and I was like,
woah, people.
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Like, do this in this town.
Like, that's crazy.
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What year was this?
This was.
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I was.
I was 14.
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So that had to be.
This was like 2009.
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I was like, maybe I just turned
15.
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So like 2009.
Wow.
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Yeah.
And then so just went in
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trained.
I remember I went in.
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Which gym was this?
It was the name was domain MMA.
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Yeah, an old gym.
And it doesn't exist anymore.
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And Dustin Sievers was the was
the head coach of the place and
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so went in on a Saturday and did
like some triangles and more
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like just showed.
Showed me like basic fundamental
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jujitsu.
After that, like held mitts for
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me showed me like some basic
shit and I was like, oh.
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This is it.
Like this is what I'm going to
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do.
It was that quick.
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It was literally instant.
So you were one of those guys
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that actually trained full time
MMA from high school day?
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One full MMA high school that's
part of the new generation, yes.
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So do you feel kind of different
from like what you can do
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compared to what the old
pioneers did, I mean?
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You see it in the sport, like
how quickly it's transitioned
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over the years and how quickly
it's still transitioning, right?
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You see some of the even.
Younger guys, like I'm 30 now
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and seeing some of the guys that
are 2223 years old and they're
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fucking the way they fight and
the way that they're using their
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movement and they're striking
and they're wrestling and
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they're grappling all together
at once.
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Like it, it's just crazy where
the yeah, the fluidity is
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insane.
It's insane.
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It's insane.
And I do feel like in a sense,
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like, yeah, I'm better than the
generation before.
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So like, whenever I see some of
these older guys, I'm like, oh,
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I want to hurry up and get to
the dance now so I can fight
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some of those guys and get like.
Cool highlight reels over like,
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get a little bit of that rub.
Yeah, get a you know what I
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mean?
That'd be awesome.
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But after that, you know, it's
everyone's coming up fast.
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The sport is evolving so
quickly, so cool, and you've
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been in a game now over half
your life, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
I've read about like half my
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life as far as like training,
but like taking it seriously and
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fighting.
I had my first kickboxing fight
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at 16, but I really feel like I
didn't, like, start to really
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take it serious.
So I turned like 18.
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Like, right now.
I got out of high school.
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Actually, I remember I.
I remember I ate some mushrooms
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and I was still going.
I was going to Community College
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for like the first six months
because I didn't like know what
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to tell my family.
I was like, I don't want to be a
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loser.
Everyone says I got to do
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something.
So I went to Community College
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and I was training, getting
ready for fights and I ate some
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mushrooms actually with this guy
and our good friend Matt might
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have to, might have to bleep out
his name, Old Rice House.
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He's a black belt in jiu jitsu.
He used to live with us and like
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trained us, did everything.
We ate some mushrooms.
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We did jiu jitsu for like 8
hours.
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Fucking he just, like, broke
down so much.
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We got like our own personal
seminar.
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And then the next day I go to
class and all I could think
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about whenever I'm sitting
there, I like to not focus on
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anything she was saying because
I just did not give a fuck about
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it.
And I just like, heard what she
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was saying.
I was like, man, I want to be
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the best fucking fighter in the
world and it's not going to
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happen sitting in this
classroom.
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So I remember I left that class
and I was like, I'm not, you
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know, I'm not coming back here.
I'm just going to go to the gym
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and that's what I did and you
dropped out right there and
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never went back.
I don't even didn't do like an
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official drop out.
I just never went back.
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I never did anything ever again.
How did that go with like paying
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for classes and everything?
I had already.
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I had a grant, so everything was
already paid for and everything.
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So I just good old fastball,
walked away.
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Fastball.
Yeah, there you go.
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You already know.
You already know.
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That's what it was.
So at what point did you take
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your first MMA fight?
I took my first MMA fight and
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never I was still a senior in
high school, so I turned 18
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whenever I was a senior.
And then I was already trained
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and I had already done like a
handful of like boxing matches,
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kickboxing matches, a bunch of
jujitsu tournaments and shit.
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So the team I was with hadn't
taken MMA Fight on a local show.
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Whenever I was 18 and actually
lost, I was fucking the dude up,
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like was kicking them all over
the place, punching him, picking
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him up, slamming him.
And then he ended up catching me
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in a guillotine, and I tapped
really quick, 'cause I just,
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like, panicked.
And then after that, I was like,
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oh, I got to feel what it's like
to win.
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And then inside my second fight,
like six months later, my, my
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coach at the time made me get my
blue belt to jiu jitsu.
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So I had to compete a bunch in
the time in between, fought
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again six months later, went
out, demolished this kid in like
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a minute.
And then after that, it started
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to evolve to like, oh, like,
what's next?
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Like, now I felt what it's like
to win.
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And then it was like, oh, I want
to be like the best amateur.
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Like, I think I'm better than
all these guys here in town.
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And so then it.
Just kept fighting and, you
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know, competing and stuff.
And then next thing I know it
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was like, oh, now that you guys
are turning pro and I'm seeing
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guys like kind of pushing
towards the UFC.
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And I'm like, Oh well, I and I'm
watching other UFC fires.
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I'm like, I think, like, I'm
better than some of these guys.
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Like I think my skills could
shine against a lot of these
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people.
And then the next goal was set
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to be the best pro I could be.
And then so I turned pro 4 1/2
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years ago now.
So what age was that that you
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turned pro?
25 Yeah.
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What made you feel like you were
ready to turn pro?
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Was it something specific other
than seeing these other guys?
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Was it something in you?
Like, did you know you were
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going to be a 140 fiver Because
all of your previous fights were
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at 1:45, right?
Did you know that at 1:45,
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looking at this guy
specifically, I can beat him?
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Yeah, I mean people I was
training with at the time.
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There was a lot of professionals
around me and I was.
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Like schooling them like, and
they were like local pros.
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But you know, I was schooling
those guys.
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Also back in 2016, I went out
and trained with Team Elevation
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for like 8 months.
So I was able to train around TJ
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Dillashaw and Shorty.
And you know, I was like
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training with Austin Hubbard and
like, you know, really like a
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bunch of UFC guys and guys that
were coming up.
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And I was at Dwayne Ludwig's
gym.
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So I kind of saw where I was at
then, and that was about I think
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like a year before I turned pro,
or maybe a year and a half
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before I turned pro.
So I knew where I was at, like
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skill wise, I knew that I was
already like UFC caliber, kind
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of like if I had just if I could
fight the right fights, find the
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right fights.
And so whenever I turned pro, it
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was like I knew that I was
pretty much ready to go from the
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drone, especially when you look
at your size, right 6/1.
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Yeah, that was a big thing.
Like 145.
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The reach, the length
athleticism 2 behind it.
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Yeah, exactly.
Like the speed with the length
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is very dangerous.
Like whenever you look at guys
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like one of my favorite boxers
is a big boxing fan.
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Growing up it was Tommy Hearns.
Tommy Hearns long fought 147 and
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six one, but he had a 78 inch
reach.
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Mine is only 74, which is still
long.
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But like 78's insane and he was
just fucking KO people with his
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speed and his length.
And so that was something that I
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kind of saw, you know, just
throughout practice and over
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time that I knew.
I knew I would be able to if I
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caught people with good shots,
like it didn't matter who it
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was, especially with the four
ounce glove.
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Those are just sleeping pills.
And so I knew I just had to get
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out there and just have fights
and have make those special
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moments happen.
So you turn pro, all of your
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fights, you're 145, right?
At one point you do go up and
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wait, right?
But that's kind of after you go
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on a hot streak at 1:45, right?
Yeah, that led up to fighting in
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Titan FC, right?
How did that fight go for you?
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Like, how did you see that
going?
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What happened during the leg
kick?
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So, so that fight I took on four
days notice.
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I fought Mohammed Naimov and
he's obviously he's a stud like
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he's doing it on the UFC now.
And I mean, I would still like
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to run it back with him
honestly.
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And I think that I could get the
best of him and I was doing
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good.
I felt like I was going to just
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hit him with punches and knock
him out, but.
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His kicks were insane and he
made me better that night.
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Just learning how to defend
kicks.
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And it is what it is, you know,
like that's that's really the
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sport.
It was a very humbling
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experience.
Like, I didn't think that that
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could happen to me, like 'cause
I was out striking people.
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I was knocking people out.
I I had lost previously that to
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a guy who was seven and O Ty
Clark, who was coming off The
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Ultimate Fighter and I just had
had my third fight.
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I had three fights in four
months and you know, I was like
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once I lost that fight, he had
missed weight.
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By £5 I allowed it, you know, he
took a little pay cut, went out
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there and he squeaked the
decision.
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But in my mind I was like, OK, a
little more experience.
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I can smoke that guy.
It wasn't really like a lost and
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it still really isn't.
And but the Muhammad Naymar
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fight, he he beat me fair and
square that night.
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Like that night he beat me at
what I thought I was going to be
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better than him at.
So that was what was very
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humbling and that's what was
like.
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Hard to, you know, kind of have
to reset and overcome.
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He broke my leg in that fight,
so I physically had to like
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rebound and fucking, you know
what I mean?
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Start from scratch again.
And now, So that's what actually
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dropped you though was the leg
break, Yeah.
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Yeah, he broke my leg in the
first round and then I kept
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going and then he kept hitting
him and that shit sucked.
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So he broke it early in the
first round.
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Yeah, I think it was like the
third or fourth kick.
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He broke my fibula.
The outside, outside bone in the
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leg.
Yeah, And then?
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He landed a few like, I don't
know, like 10 or 15 in the
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second round.
Yeah, second round.
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He ended up putting me down with
him, yeah, So he just kicked the
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spot that was already broken.
Yeah, yeah, He just put it right
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on there.
And I was trying to, you know,
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tough it out.
But it is what it is.
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And then obviously you have like
a bunch of people talking shit
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afterwards and you're like, bro,
my leg was broke.
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Like, what?
Kind of fucked up.
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What kind of X-ray did that look
like?
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It wasn't too gnarly.
It was just like a clean
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fracture.
Lucky.
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Like, yeah, yeah, that's.
I really did get lucky and I was
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actually back.
Sparring.
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Like five months later, like
almost five months to the day I
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was back sparring and I had a
really shitty teammate who was,
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who was like jealous or
something and tried to fucking
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take my leg out very first
sparring session.
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And that set me back another two
months.
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And then after that, that two
months, I was back doing good.
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I ended up tearing my hip labrum
on the other side and then I had
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to get surgery and I was out and
that's what was the 18 month
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layoff between the Titan fight
and my first fight on Shamrock.
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But even through that
experience, what was that
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experience like through that
recovery and that rehab?
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I I took it really serious, like
I was just zoned in because I
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had doctors and physical
therapists telling me that.
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I might never be able to do this
again.
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And I got a kid to fucking
provide for.
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And I'm like really invested in
this, you know, like this is my
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this is my baby as well, and I'm
not going to let anyone take
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that from me.
And just because the doctor
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says, like, this would like, you
can't do this, you shouldn't do
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this.
I don't give a shit what anyone
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says, Like I'm going to make
this shit happen, get rich or
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die trying and so.
You know, I was just so focused
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on rehabbing and getting strong,
get my upper body strong that
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whenever I came back I was a
better athlete than I ever was,
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which was crazy.
Like, it was insane.
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Like, I What did you do in that
18 months?
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Because physically you look
completely different, right?
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The amount of muscle that got
put on.
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Yeah, I mean, I I literally just
hit the weights, changed my
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whole diet, like.
I was, you know, I'd eat pretty
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shitty.
I was still eating like a kid,
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like I was, you know, I just ate
whatever I wanted, like just
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whatever tasted good because I
could skate down to the weight
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because I was so skinny at 1:45.
And then once I found out about
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all, you know, I knew about
nutrition and I knew how to go
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about things and I would kind
of, you know, for the most part,
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I'd eat healthy and have have
decent camps leading into that.
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But I wasn't super strict and
once once the surgery happened,
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I knew that I needed to be.
All my PS and QS, everything
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needed to be perfect.
I made sure that my my intake of
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food went up.
I was lifting, I was doing upper
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body lifts once in the morning
or at night depending on my work
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schedule, and I would do my
rehab for my for my leg and the
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opposite workout.
So I was doing basically like 2
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a day lifts for like six months
after the surgery.
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So by the time we rolled into
that next fight, I was fucking
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shredded like I was so big.
Peak condition, peak condition.
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And I mean, you went on a tear,
right?
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Like you go back-to-back wins
against Thomas Thatcher and then
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Josh Weston, both TKL finishes,
right?
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Yeah.
Then looks like you were kind of
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on your way to victory against
Josh Henry, you would say,
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right.
And then he hit you with the
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body shot talking through that.
What was that like, that big
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body shot?
I mean, honestly, I more it was
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more.
I just gassed out.
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Like I'd gassed out before the I
blew my wad in the first round.
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I overlooked him early in the
fight.
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I had a lot of personal shit
going on into that fight.
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I just moved out here and I
didn't have much of A camp.
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Like I was kind of just thinking
I can just get through this
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camp, do whatever practices and
then roll into that fight, smoke
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Josh Weston and then and then
just move on.
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You know, go on and and be in
the UFC or whatever.
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Get signed and then go to, you
know, one of the coaches and
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say, hey, I'll tell you to put
together their camp or whatever
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and.
Like then it'd be perfect.
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But you know, I learned the hard
way that you really got to take
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every single guy 100% serious,
especially like a 17 fight
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veteran, even though he's not,
doesn't have the best record.
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He's lost to good guys and he's
pretty fucking solid.
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He came to fucking fight that
night and I just showed up just
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to like smoke him, you know,
Like I thought I was just going
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to blow through him and that was
that, like.
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You know, he ate some really
heavy shots.
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He ate a lot.
He ate some fucking knees of the
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face that I was sure we're going
to put them away.
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And I was putting everything on
him and but it taught me, you
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know, it taught me to be a
veteran.
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Now this is my 10th pro fight
and I get to roll in and really
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showcase my skills and not be in
a rush every fight I've been in
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a rush to fucking put people
away and I it it's worked out.
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But it's also worked against me
as well and the Ty Clark fight
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and the Muhammad Naya Law fight
and now in the Josh Henry fight.
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And so now I get to go out there
and just be try and be relaxed
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as possible, just fucking
outclass this guy and just start
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getting more comfortable.
I want more cage time.
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Like, I could see myself
catching this dude early and
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then putting him away and, you
know, having another quick
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finish.
But I wouldn't mind sitting in
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there and having like 10-12
minutes and then getting like a
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late finish, honestly, just
because I want to get
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comfortable in there.
I I want to, I want to show all
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the skills I've been working on.
I want to break them down.
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I want to you know, I want to
show it all.
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And you are talking about the
fight that's coming up.
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This is going to come out on
Tuesday, so fight will be this
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Saturday, November 4th.
You're fighting at Shine Rock
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FC-350.
It's going to be at the
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Ameristar Casino in Kansas City
against Nick Malpin, right?
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Saint Louis it's going to be in.
It's in Saint Louis.
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Oh, it's not in Caleb.
There's another marathon in
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Kansas City, though.
OK, yeah, sorry about that.
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No worries.
No worries.
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And like you said, you feel
great coming into the fight.
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Would your guess be that you do
get him out of there early?
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Yeah.
My guess would be that I get him
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out of there early.
I'm not in a rush, though.
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Like I said, I think that he has
to really try to force.
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Put me against the cage making
me tired and making me work and
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stuff because if he sits
outside, he's going to get
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sniped.
Like I'm not even going to have
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to try to force it.
He's he's going to fall into
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something and he's going to go
away.
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Like there's just there's no way
that he's going to be able to
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take some of my shots and then
he.
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So he's going to have to force,
he's going to have to force it
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and that that could get him out
of there, honestly.
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Hit him back with, you know,
some kind of counter shot and I
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could see that putting him away.
I've done that a number of times
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but.
I'm just not in a rush, man.
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I think if I go out there, stuff
a few shots and just sit in his
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face and chill, I could have the
performance of a lifetime, the
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highlight reel of a lifetime
and, you know, have something
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really special.
But I wouldn't be surprised if,
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like, I'd go out and just throw
a combination in his face and
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he's like, oh fuck.
And then I just put up a head
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kick and he's like, yeah, I'm
good, let's get out of here.
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Yeah, yeah.
But that way, either way, it's
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all good.
And I mean, how do you think his
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gas tank's going to be with him
taking the fight on such short
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notice?
I don't know.
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I know he's a tough dude from
Kentucky.
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I know it was Kentucky,
Louisiana, fucking Mississippi
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mud like.
And the country boys they come
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to, they come to scrap whether
they're in shape or not.
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So you know, I'm just planning
on him being there for a little
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bit and I know I'm in good ass
shape and.
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I'm looking to show it.
Do you almost want to stretch it
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out knowing that you know he's
taking?
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It on such short notice.
I mean, sort of, but it's hard
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not to.
Like if you catch someone, it's
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hard not to just try to just
fucking just get him out of
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there as quickly as possible.
Like, at least for me, it's just
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like I want to just well, like
you said, you've learned over
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the past nine pro fights of your
career.
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Coming to the 10th fight, you
better at doing that now,
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slowing down a little bit, not
any time with it.
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That's all I've been working on
in the gym.
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That's all.
And just and just playing the in
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between game and really just
breaking down the PS and QS and
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fighting and not you know just
relying on my athleticism and
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and just you know like in the
Josh Weston fight it was great.
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It's great highlights and
there's great, like, it's cool
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to see me go back and fucking
just like drop them with 1232
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like.
But it's all really simple
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combinations.
It's all really the same setup
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and I'm excited to go out there
and just like mix all different
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setups and movements and really
put together something special
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that that I'm proud of.
Even if, like, no one recognizes
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what it is like, it'll still be
cool just to go out there and do
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the shit that I worked on and
then make something materialize
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off of that and then, you know,
start to really build something
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within the next couple of fights
off that.
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You were talking kind of about
the winning streak you were on
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and how that was leading to you
believe in.
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With this victory, I might be in
the UFC the next fight.
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Where do you think that stands
now?
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How many fights away do you
think you are from the UFC?
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I don't know.
I mean, after this one, maybe I
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could get something on short
notice.
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Possibly.
I mean, I think it's you just
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got to be on a win streak for
that to even be a reality.
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And at 7:00 and 3:00 there's
other guys that have gotten
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signed at 6:00 and 3:00.
That you've seen recently like a
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guy who fought Blood Diamond was
six and three, he beat him.
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Now he's 7:00 and 3:00.
So it's like I think that I've
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had enough good fights and hard
fights and and you know I have a
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lot of knockouts and I would be
a good show in the UFC to where
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I think it could happen after
this one.
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But it's more likely that it
happens after maybe another one
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after this, maybe eight and
three, nine and three maybe 1-2
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fights.
I think after a three fight win
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streak being nine and three,
it's almost undeniable so.
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You know, I'm wanting to stay
active, so I'm going to keep
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booking shit all the way up to 9
and three and hopefully,
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hopefully we're good then.
So last fight was a lightweight
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fight, right?
But you came in 157 live over
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157 1/2, Yeah, Yeah, fight
before that was a catchweight
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fight at 175, but before that
was at 165.
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And then obviously, like we
said, everything else previous
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was a featherweight 145 fight.
Is the weight a problem going
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into the 155 or even 145 these
days?
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No, 145 will definitely be
tough.
446
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960
Absolutely.
Especially now, I think I'm
447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,720
about as big as you can possibly
be to be a 45, but So what would
448
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800
you be looking at going into the
UFC at right now?
449
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,080
Would it be lightweight?
No, 45 one, it would
450
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,360
featherweight.
It would still be featherweight.
451
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:46,680
Yeah, I would.
Want to compete at featherweight
452
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,160
in the UFCI?
Feel like that's where I'm going
453
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,800
to be the most competitive at,
but.
454
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,480
Yeah, for local shows, regional
shows like this, for a guy to
455
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,040
hop in on short notice and want
and ask for 55, he's had fights
456
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,120
at 45 and 50 before.
It's like, why not take it?
457
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,400
I think my skills are going to
go out there and shine and it
458
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,440
makes it a little easier that I
don't have to cut as much
459
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,440
weight.
The 57 thing last time we had
460
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,520
made weight over at the at the
sauna in the gym that we were at
461
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,240
when I was cutting the weight on
the same scale.
462
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960
And then we went over there and
then I was £2.00 over and it was
463
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,880
like a 30 minute drive between.
And they had, you know, the
464
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760
opponent came down and we were
like, hey man, do you like if
465
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,920
you're going to like take my
money, then I'll go back to the
466
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,120
sauna and I'll go cut the the
two pounds or pound and a half
467
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:38,920
or whatever it was And you know,
then we can, you know, I don't
468
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,080
give a fuck like I'll go back
and do it, but it's going to
469
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,920
take me till the end of.
Weigh insurance to do it.
470
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760
So you're going to have to wait
like 2 hours before you
471
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,320
rehydrate.
And he was like, no, no, it's
472
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,080
fine.
Let's just do it.
473
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,360
I'm not going to take the money.
Let's just let's just run it.
474
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,400
Which was pretty cool.
That was actually really sick.
475
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,640
Yeah, pretty cool.
But he saw we were literally
476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,360
cutting weight together.
So like he So what do you think
477
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,960
happened with the issue with the
scale?
478
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,920
I don't know.
I really have no idea.
479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,880
I like, maybe it was an unstable
floor.
480
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,040
Do you have any?
Yeah, I don't know.
481
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680
It was the weirdest thing ever,
though, because I had hit
482
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,600
weight.
And we're like, all right, we're
483
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,040
cool.
Didn't drink anything.
484
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240
Go over there.
And get on the scale.
485
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080
I'm like, oh, let's just check
real quick for officials.
486
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,960
And I'm like, what the fuck,
like, how long do I got?
487
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,480
They're like, oh, you got like 2
hours.
488
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,040
We're like, well, we got like 45
minutes worth of traffic to get
489
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,080
through.
But then after that, I know I
490
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520
can get a pound and a half off.
I mean, it won't take that long,
491
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,480
you know, But yeah, the way it
worked out didn't really need to
492
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,280
it.
Didn't really need to.
493
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,120
There was not necessary.
It was a local show.
494
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,160
I think he kind of, you know, he
understood the big picture.
495
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,160
It's like, yeah, so it was
pretty cordial then.
496
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Yeah.
You think it was uneven ground
497
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,240
like at the sauna or?
Or maybe at the gym, I'm not
498
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,080
sure.
I think he could have been at
499
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,880
the gym because then once it was
flat, everyone else made weight
500
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,240
just fine.
So that was the other thing.
501
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,760
I was like, like, I don't
understand how we fucked up.
502
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200
I feel like I have to take
responsibility for it at the end
503
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920
of the day.
But I don't understand where we
504
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,720
fucked up and I don't know what
happened.
505
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000
I How weird was that cutting
weight with him in the sauna
506
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,200
with you?
It wasn't that weird.
507
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,920
He was pretty cool, actually.
I had my guys with me and he was
508
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,920
by himself.
Yeah.
509
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,400
Yeah.
It looked like he was really
510
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,520
struggling.
Yeah, But it was, it was cool.
511
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,320
It was cool.
He was.
512
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,400
He was a good guy.
You know, that's veteran shit.
513
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080
We're all here for the same same
reason.
514
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
We're all here to get paid and
take care of our family.
515
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880
And you know, it's not.
It's nothing personal.
516
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600
What's the worst?
Weight cut you've ever had.
517
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Probably making 1:45 for the Ty
Clark fight in my 4th pro fight
518
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:54,080
just because I had made 1:45 in.
April, June, August.
519
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,480
And then had to do it again two
weeks after or three weeks after
520
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,600
that fight in August, so twice
in August.
521
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,000
So that was tough, yeah?
And then he missed weight by £5.
522
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,040
What do you remember from the
weight cut?
523
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,400
I mean, we just, it was ugly
again.
524
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Travel.
It didn't really get too bad.
525
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,360
You were there for it.
It wasn't too bad, right?
526
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,400
No.
Like, I mean, I just.
527
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,760
I just remember just being
tired, worn out.
528
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,640
The camp was really hard, like.
Getting through, you know,
529
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,800
getting through training and
stuff was it was kind of like it
530
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,000
was a grind.
It was like, you know, it wasn't
531
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,960
like fun and like I'm like
competitive.
532
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,280
It was like, fuck, I got to get
through this workout to get this
533
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,960
weight off kind of thing.
And I was really banged up.
534
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880
I actually had had gotten a
concussion right after that
535
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,720
fight and training after we got
the LFA fight call and so, you
536
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240
know, I got the concussion plus
I just cut weight and it was
537
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,040
like, damn, you know, we still
got to make this happen.
538
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Obviously that was hush hush
until.
539
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Until after the fight.
But then I had like a few, you
540
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400
know, a little bit of symptoms
after that where I had to chill
541
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080
out and not take a fight until
my next.
542
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,200
My next one was in February.
I think I had to take like six
543
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,080
months off.
Oh, wow.
544
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Yeah, that's and no surgery was
needed.
545
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,600
No, no, no.
It was just like like dizzy
546
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,200
spells, stuff like that.
And it's just like, oh, just
547
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,160
nothing.
It was nothing crazy, OK, Yeah.
548
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,840
You think it's going to be easy
to make 55 this time?
549
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Pretty easy for you?
Yeah, I.
550
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Think it's going to be really
easy because you said you're
551
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,280
walking around 170.
Yeah, yeah, we were.
552
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440
I mean, I was trending down for
45, we were ready for 45 with my
553
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000
original opponent and then he
had, you know, he wanted to do
554
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,360
150 and I was like, all right,
cool, like, you know, the £5
555
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:39,400
will make that way easier.
And then he fell out, we got the
556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,120
new guy and he asked for 55 and
it was like, all right, it's
557
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,200
only £5 more than what I was
already going to do.
558
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,880
I was ending practices around
like. 165 waking up at 170.
559
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,680
So it was like you know let's
just do 55.
560
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480
Get comfy.
Had went over to Uncle Frank's
561
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,320
literally the day that we
fucking got it done and signed
562
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,280
the contract went to Unco's me
and Shorty got Nick's plate.
563
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:12,720
We got the chicken obviously
fire and poke nachos fire.
564
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Yeah, but he hasn't.
He was his first time there, so.
565
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,800
We had to.
I had to.
566
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840
I had to show him the ropes, you
know?
567
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Hell yeah.
Uncle Frank's all the way.
568
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Oh, all day, baby.
I can't wait to go after my
569
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,400
fight, so 15 pounds £14.00 to
cut.
570
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240
What does that week look like
Cutting that weight?
571
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,520
So I'll have to start cutting my
carbs back, probably starting
572
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,200
tomorrow, and then that should
get me about like 5-6 pounds.
573
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,760
And then that's going to and the
rest will just be water.
574
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,800
So nice little £9 water cut.
I'll be looking nice and shreddy
575
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560
and then roll in and, you know,
be all good.
576
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Take all the picks for IG.
Yeah, shred it up, Flex the ABS
577
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,800
a little bit.
Hell yeah.
578
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Have them break out the pro Cam.
Got this.
579
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Got the good angle?
OK, we're good.
580
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Would you ever do an only fans?
I don't know if I would do a
581
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,880
sexual only fans, but I would do
like an only fans, kind of like
582
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,920
I know my boy Shorty and I know
a few other athletes who've
583
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520
gotten only fans deals where
they do like mental health
584
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:27,760
videos and like, you know, like
training stuff and talk about,
585
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
you know, whatever.
And then that stuff's cool to
586
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,840
me.
I would, I would do some stuff
587
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600
like that or maybe just like put
out our own content.
588
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Like I don't see why it has to
be that way.
589
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720
I would almost rather put out
like fun shit with my friends,
590
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
like blog type stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
591
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800
Almost like kind of like, yeah,
like TV reality show kind of
592
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,040
thing.
Like I think that would be like
593
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,600
that would be more, that'd just
be different, just be different
594
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,960
than what else everyone else is
doing.
595
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080
But you'd have a lot of interest
in doing that type of stuff.
596
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280
I would have more interest in
doing something like that, just
597
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920
creating content in general.
Yes.
598
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Then then, like, only fan shit.
It's kind of, yeah, who would
599
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040
inspire you?
Like what type of content would
600
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:11,120
you like to create?
Like Robin Big was one of my
601
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000
favorite shows.
Or like mixed with like you ever
602
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080
see like 2A Days on MTV back in
the day, I haven't known.
603
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Do you didn't see that Uber
high?
604
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,760
No, no, no.
Man, it's a good one.
605
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,120
You got to go back and see that.
I'll, I'll, I'll like send send
606
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920
me a link.
Yeah, and because I loved Robin.
607
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Big ridiculousness.
I was going to say fantasy.
608
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Factory, factory, that type of
like vibe makes maybe like an
609
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480
old like Jackass kind of vibe
but like.
610
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,960
You ever see like Mac Miller's
TV show?
611
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,120
No.
Oh, Mac Miller had a cool little
612
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,120
TV show.
I had no idea.
613
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,400
It's just.
Like him and his friends just
614
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
fucking around like and I'm
like, that would be cool because
615
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,760
they could like mix the training
in with like we meet cool people
616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240
and it's like crazy.
We'll just be like, Oh my God,
617
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,640
we just fucking ran into so and
so.
618
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that sounds sick.
619
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
You like cool dinners.
Like, somehow I know that
620
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360
there's magic within it.
I'm in it.
621
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Especially today in the world of
content consumption.
622
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040
It's insane.
It's it's there it's there and
623
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920
especially with short where
Shorty's AT and like where
624
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,520
everyone's headed in the gym and
like who else were around and I
625
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200
feel like you know a couple more
wins get get a little more buzz
626
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
going and like it, you know it
could be a cool thing create
627
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
that career outside of fighting
and post fight.
628
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,560
Oh dude, what you got to
especially now being 30.
629
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
I see that now more than ever.
Is that insane dude being?
630
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
30 It's weird.
It's weird, but like, your brain
631
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
kind of naturally starts to
like, see these things like.
632
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Like, I didn't start thinking
about other, like, outside
633
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,000
opportunities, like at all.
But now I've met a few people
634
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,720
that have shown me other things
that I've thought like, oh, I
635
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280
think I'll take money from
fighting and do something like
636
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
this.
But I never thought about how
637
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600
I'm going to go from A to B to C
to D to like, having it done.
638
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,960
And now I'm meeting people that
have done it and it's tried and
639
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,360
true with them.
And they're like actually
640
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880
experienced in that, you know,
like almost being able to have
641
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,200
like a coach.
And so it's like.
642
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,480
OK, now I know.
Exact.
643
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Like I know Exactly.
Makes all the world difference,
644
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,720
huh?
Right.
645
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Right.
Doesn't feel like you're just
646
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080
shooting in the dark, like you
actually have somebody that has
647
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,560
done it.
Yes, exactly.
648
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,400
And like, I think that, yeah, I
I'm just excited to, I'm not
649
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,640
excited to like move on to that
chapter, but I think like you
650
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
can do it at the same time.
Yeah, you can do it at the same
651
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,600
time.
You should do it at the same
652
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400
time.
Yeah, I mean, you have to.
653
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,680
You have to.
You don't want to wait.
654
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600
You like and that's that's.
Well, you're either going to be
655
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,920
doing that, or busing tables
exactly.
656
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Exactly.
That's pretty much where I'm at,
657
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
doing security or doing
construction.
658
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Or and that's the crazy thing is
I'll be like doing security on
659
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280
like Friday, Saturday night I
started talking to this guy who
660
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240
is doing like all this crazy
stuff with stocks and you know,
661
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,800
he's explained to me like good
and bad dad.
662
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
We started talking about like
rich dad, poor dad and like all
663
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,240
these different things.
And I was like, I'm on the vibe
664
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
with this guy and like one of my
other I might have to clip this,
665
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040
but like one of my other
security guards is like.
666
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Interrupting us a little bit and
like just like asking like
667
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,360
weird, like questions about
like, security stuff like, but
668
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
it wasn't like anything, you
know what I'm saying?
669
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,920
Like, nothing's happening.
He's just trying to, like
670
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,440
engage.
But he like, didn't know how.
671
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,240
And like, I was like, you know,
I'm just like, this is not I I
672
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,760
need to be here, not here.
And I need to figure out how to
673
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960
get there.
And I think, like, fighting is
674
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,800
actually a pretty good way for
me to bridge that gap,
675
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,080
especially like, where I'm at
right now.
676
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360
And you're headlining shows.
You're the main event in a lot
677
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,520
of shows, right?
Right.
678
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Yeah.
Are you guys the main event this
679
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,920
week too?
Were the main events.
680
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,000
There you go.
So yeah hopefully that's what
681
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,440
I'm saying.
Hopefully after this one UFC
682
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,720
just and you get a 55 or bad on
24 hours notice.
683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
I'll fucking drive my happy ass
over to the apex and be like let
684
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
me just get a four fight deal,
let me get three more at 45
685
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320
after this come on in for him.
Do you think that they're going
686
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,160
to want to see you fight at 145
before you they give you that
687
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520
contract?
I think they would because it's
688
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640
been like three years at this
point before since you fought at
689
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,240
1:45.
Oh yeah.
690
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,360
If they were going to bring me
in at 45, I think that they
691
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
would want to see it.
But I like you said you're
692
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,840
you're 232 fights out, one fight
out, possibly you could even be
693
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,440
on short notice.
No, exactly.
694
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080
That's what I'm thinking too.
I beat this guy, I go in, I make
695
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120
45 in my next fight, show him I
can make 45 and then I'm sitting
696
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,000
at 8:00 and 3:00 on a two fight
notice and it's like they need
697
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,080
me at 55 grade if.
You know, if they want to bring
698
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480
me in at 45 and give me a week
or two, that's fine too.
699
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,240
It's just it's just it would
suck to have to make 45 on like
700
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,880
a week or something like that.
I'd probably die because I would
701
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440
give it my all.
You think that's something
702
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
they'd do to you, though?
They'd give you that fight at
703
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,960
1:45.
I don't know.
704
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,800
They're pretty.
Like, they don't give a fuck.
705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,680
So, like, yeah, probably they're
like, well, make it or don't.
706
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Like, here's the opportunity,
bro.
707
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,160
I'd be like, yeah.
Does it ever make you want to
708
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,840
walk around closer to 45?
I definitely do my best for the
709
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,480
most part.
Definitely do my best for the
710
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
most part.
Like I would like whenever I was
711
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,199
trending down to 45, it wasn't
like I was killing myself.
712
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,000
The fucking.
I'm just eating good, eating
713
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
healthy and just being hydrated
and just being smart and getting
714
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,960
an extra training sessions and
just.
715
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,760
Making sure I'm just selling my
PS and QS.
716
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,679
So it's the only reason I'm
saying is because you're massive
717
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,000
now in that three-year span, the
amount of muscle you put on like
718
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,719
at featherweight, you're going
to look like Dracus duplicis.
719
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Well, you're going to be huge.
Well, I'm going to look a lot
720
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,159
skinnier than my last fight.
My last fight I was walking
721
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,480
around about like 180.
Now I'm walking around about 70,
722
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360
so I am going to be
significantly skinnier.
723
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,840
But I do have more muscle mass
now than I did whenever I was at
724
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,199
45 previously, for sure.
So yeah, probably.
725
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,159
But definitely you can feel the
less muscle mass in the last
726
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,520
fight, yeah.
For sure I'm I'm wasting.
727
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Do you feel it in strength as
well?
728
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,840
Yes, yes, big time.
But do you also feel it in
729
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
stamina?
Yes, yes.
730
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
I feel like it's honestly like
the perfect thing for me because
731
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880
it's a better mix.
It's a better mix because I was
732
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960
really struggling with my cardio
whenever I first got out of
733
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,160
here.
So I was trying to muscle things
734
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
and do things and now I've been
working with Dennis Davis, like,
735
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,720
you know, since I've been out
here pretty much and.
736
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,680
You know, he's just a
technician.
737
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
And so he just, I'm just trying
to do his things, preach, you
738
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
know, and just do the things he
preaches and just do all the
739
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,720
right things.
And this is just how my body
740
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,560
kind of turned out after six
months, you know, like it just
741
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,520
like kind of molded to like how
it was supposed to be.
742
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,280
And now it's like all coming
together.
743
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,800
Now my cardio feels better than
ever.
744
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,600
I'm really, really strong for
1:45.
745
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,760
I can't just muscle around the
155 like I was before, but.
746
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,000
I'd rather be the best 40 fiver
in the world than like a top
747
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,720
2555.
Realistically, where do you
748
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,400
think you rank as a
featherweight in the world right
749
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:59,080
now?
I'm up there.
750
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,840
No bias.
I'm up there.
751
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,440
What do you think?
It's considering everybody in
752
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,520
the UFC, the PFL and Bellator.
I know and everyone just a rough
753
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,480
number.
What do you think?
754
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,000
I'm up there.
What do you think?
755
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Top ten?
Top ten?
756
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Yeah, in the world.
I don't see why not.
757
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,040
I don't know.
I mean, look, with your size,
758
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,000
you're 145.
Yeah, I think 6/1/74 inch reach.
759
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,760
So like today, top, I would say
like and you're not scrawny
760
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,800
either.
I would say like top ten, top 15
761
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680
right now, but I think the Sky's
the limit because I think in the
762
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,120
next three or four years I.
That's like more time.
763
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,720
The more time I get with Dennis
and the more time that I put in
764
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,720
out here at Extreme, the more
rounds I put in, the more I
765
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,120
continue to poop my best effort
into out working everyone in the
766
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,760
room.
It's going to pay off dividends
767
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640
and I'm already like able to
compete with all the best
768
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,240
people.
So I'll say Maz Burnell fucking
769
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,600
sucks to go with him fucking
sucks.
770
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520
He's awesome.
So that would be that would
771
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,840
suck.
But I feel like.
772
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,200
I'm doing pretty well.
I'm doing pretty well, but
773
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,640
that's what you'd feel on par
with.
774
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,680
What, like a mad spir now?
Oh no.
775
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
I mean, he's one of the best in
the world.
776
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,960
He is the.
I think he's the best in the
777
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040
world.
I think Madge is number one in
778
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,600
the world right now.
I think he would be both,
779
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120
really.
That's just what I think.
780
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040
He's unbelievable.
He's really hard.
781
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Like, it's really hard to train
with him because he is just so
782
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
savage and his technique is
perfect.
783
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
His boxing's unbelievable.
His fucking kicks, unbelievable.
784
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,280
His, the way he plays the game
is perfect.
785
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,680
It's like, it's like he's a
grappler but with great striking
786
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440
and he uses his striking to
grapple.
787
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,240
So it's like he's unbelievable.
But to have someone like that to
788
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,640
train with and you know, and I
don't want to say like use him,
789
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
but like have him as like a
scope and like.
790
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,560
Being able to train with guys
like Julianna Rosa, Jordan
791
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,320
Levitt, like guys like that,
like they're kicking the shit
792
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,720
out of me whenever I first got
here, man, You know what I mean?
793
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,840
And you got to fucking.
You are either going to just be
794
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,720
a beating boy or you're going to
figure a way out, or you're
795
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,600
going to figure out how to start
doing shit and you're going to
796
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920
ask questions.
And I've just been trying to
797
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,440
just ask the right questions and
just continue to get better.
798
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,400
And having all these fucking O
GS around me is just like.
799
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,840
It's such a blessing.
So I don't really know where.
800
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,480
It's like, hard to say because
everything is different on Fight
801
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,800
Night.
I think like, yeah, I could be
802
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,520
the best in the world for sure
if I perform with the best of my
803
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,160
abilities anytime I go out
there.
804
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
But on any given night, anything
could happen.
805
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080
So it's, you know what I mean?
It's hard to say, but I can
806
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
definitely train with all the
best 40 fives and 50 fives on
807
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520
the planet for sure.
That's what's awesome to see
808
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,720
about Extreme.
But yeah, of course I'm going to
809
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,400
be biased.
It's hard not to be biased like,
810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
but no, it's crazy like you do
train at one of the best gyms in
811
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,240
the world, Extreme couture.
Who would you say is the best
812
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,560
fighter you've ever fought or
trained with?
813
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:20,240
The best I've ever trained with
is Mads or Matt Rice House, and
814
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,360
best I've ever fought was
Muhammad Naima.
815
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Yeah, Muhammad's pretty.
He's pretty good.
816
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,880
But.
I feel like I can get the rest
817
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,160
of them still.
I want to get that rematch.
818
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Like whenever I get to the UFC,
that's going to be the first
819
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,920
call that I make.
I want Muhammad and I'm off.
820
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,680
I want to get that lost back.
Would you ask for that to be
821
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,280
your entry fight into the UFC?
I would, but he's on a run right
822
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,440
now, so I don't know, like it's
kind of an unrealistic thing to
823
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,960
ask for.
I would probably have to go get
824
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,800
a win or two and then or at
least get one win and then you
825
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
could ask for it.
But if they gave it to me, it'd
826
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
be like.
It would be a blessing, you
827
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,560
know, but I you can't really go
into the company saying, hey,
828
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,120
you know, I want this, I.
Want.
829
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,680
I guess you wouldn't have to go
in demanding it, but you could
830
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480
kind of approach it with that
angle of almost pitching it like
831
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,320
hey, you know there is a back
story there if you guys do need
832
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,320
a short notice flight, I don't,
I don't think he'd turn it down.
833
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,120
I won't turn it down.
Right.
834
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,200
No, I think, I don't know.
I I mean, I don't know really
835
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,320
what their plan is with him.
I know that he has a really big
836
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
fan base.
And so they seem to have their
837
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960
own plan with everybody that
they do they they promote.
838
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
So yeah, I would definitely not
be against that.
839
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
I want to fight Mohammed one way
or another.
840
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Might have to say that after the
fight, might have to do my post
841
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,960
fight right there.
There you go.
842
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,880
When did you first start
watching MMA?
843
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Like when did you become a fan?
I was pretty young man.
844
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,000
I remember watching Ernesto Hoos
in the old K1 days and old
845
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,040
pride.
It was on like.
846
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Fox Sports Midwest.
I was like 7 or 8 years old,
847
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,720
like 6 years old.
I remember I was really young in
848
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,040
my dad's little one bedroom
apartment and we would fucking
849
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,280
he would put that shit on.
I remember watching like Bob
850
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,280
Sapp and like Ernesto Hoost.
I remember that fight would be
851
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,200
on repeat and yeah.
Was that a pride fight?
852
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000
It was a pride fight, yeah.
I couldn't remember if it was K1
853
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,160
or Pride.
I don't know.
854
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,960
I it might have been K1.
I think it's Pride though, if
855
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,680
I'm not mistaken, but it could
be K1.
856
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Yeah, I'm not sure.
But it's one of those.
857
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Yeah, it was awesome either way.
Wow.
858
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,840
So early 2000s.
Early 2000s for sure.
859
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,920
And I remember my dad had showed
me like the the original UFC
860
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,840
with you know with hoist went in
like, so your dad part of the
861
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,840
reason, a big reason why you got
into MMA.
862
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Probably.
He was always a big boxing fan
863
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,560
growing whenever I was growing
up.
864
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200
So we watched all like, you
know, we kept up with all like
865
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,280
Tyson's career, like I can
remember him biting off Evander
866
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,800
Holyfield.
Here and I I heard the other day
867
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,480
I was in 97 so I was had to only
be like 4 like 4 1/2 years old.
868
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,960
So I don't even know how I
remember that but I can remember
869
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,320
being at his friends house,
Kenny Kimball and they had a
870
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,280
whole watch party.
I remember there was other kids
871
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,920
and shit.
And I remember I like felt sick.
872
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,520
I ended up throwing up cake like
I remember this whole it was
873
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,280
very specific memory you you
wanted to throw up the cake
874
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
because of him biting the ear.
No, no, no, no.
875
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Just because I ate too much
cake.
876
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
I was just a little savage.
I was just like, I'll eat 37
877
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,000
pieces.
It's fine.
878
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
I still don't like birthday cake
to this day because of it.
879
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
That's how I know.
But I remember watching him do
880
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,520
it and everyone was freaking
out.
881
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,240
They were probably all super
wasted looking back, but like, I
882
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,680
remember the whole thing, so one
of your first memories was Mike
883
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Tyson biting off.
Holyfield deer at a watch party
884
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480
on one of those old little box
TV's That was on the floor like
885
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
a big fat black ass.
No, no, not even that.
886
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,920
Like, I'm talking like a like a
little like 45 inch maybe like
887
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,640
on the floor like old school.
It was like a fucking 80s TV and
888
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400
not even like not even like one
of the big screens.
889
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,480
It was like, yeah, with the big
back on the.
890
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Little, yeah, that's what I'm
talking about.
891
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,360
I was talking about like the
like just like the little.
892
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Like, yeah, it's just like a
box.
893
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000
You know, not even like, like a
fat square, right?
894
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,920
It's like a fat square.
Yeah, like a microwave.
895
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Almost literally insane days.
Yep.
896
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Mike Tyson, who are your top
five fighters of all time?
897
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Oh, good question.
John Jones, George Saint Pierre,
898
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,480
Anderson Silva.
See, I came from a certain day,
899
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:46,800
you can tell.
Connor And is this just MMA more
900
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,720
based, But if you got somebody
else out of it, I was.
901
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:53,200
Going to say Prince in the
scene, Prince in the scene, but
902
00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:02,800
for MMA, I'll do feel like you
got to say Randy Couture, you
903
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,680
know we're at the jammies.
He was the first champ champ.
904
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,760
Yeah, it wasn't Champ Champ, but
he won it heavyweight and light
905
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520
heavyweight.
He was the first to ever have
906
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,760
the two divisions.
Yeah, And you got to think
907
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,960
about.
I don't.
908
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,520
I think he was like, was he like
40, something there, insane.
909
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,200
He lost the Brock, first of all,
he was like 220 or 230 and he
910
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,240
lost the fucking Brock at like
46.
911
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,880
So it's like, dude, you go out
like that.
912
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920
It's like, man.
Fuck it.
913
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
I'm gonna go do Expendables.
You know what I'm saying?
914
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,240
Yeah.
Now he's just a movie star.
915
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,640
He comes in the gym with some
weights.
916
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,320
He's looking amazing still.
Yeah, he'll come in at #5 for
917
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,800
sure.
We'll take Randy.
918
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,600
What's the hardest thing about
fighting for a living?
919
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Making a living from fighting
like it's just, I mean if you're
920
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,480
able to continuously get fights
and you got a handful of
921
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,800
sponsors, you got like.
You know, 7-8 sponsors and you
922
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,720
can do really well, but like if
you get put on the shelf for six
923
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:08,160
months then it's it sucks
because you're not doing
924
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,240
anything and you got to you
know, bills don't stop.
925
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:15,240
So you know you got to you got
to make it happen.
926
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:20,480
So being active, super important
if you're on a run, keeping it
927
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,440
going, you know that's super
important but it's hard and
928
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840
especially like you know, guys
get injuries like.
929
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,600
That's why I didn't turn pro
till I was 25.
930
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
I got injured and when I was a
little younger and my amateur
931
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
career, I had to take some time
off.
932
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,280
So you know, injuries will hold
you back.
933
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,160
It's just, you know, it's it's
just a tough journey.
934
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,520
There's so many factors to it.
There's so many ways out, you
935
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,440
know?
But I don't know now that I'm
936
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,000
out here, I feel like you just
seeing the other side, like
937
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
seeing the light at the end of
the tunnel and like seeing guys
938
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,240
on the opposite end of the
spectrum, like all the way at
939
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:57,640
the top of the mountain, it's
like.
940
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,080
It's pretty cool.
You feel like you're almost
941
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
there.
It makes it like, it makes you
942
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,120
feel like you can, like finally
see it.
943
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Like you've just been going up
this big ass mountain.
944
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,720
You can't see it now and you're
just like, fuck, dude, Like,
945
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,640
what are we even doing?
And then you like wake up and
946
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,800
it's like clear skies all of a
sudden you're like, wait a
947
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,480
minute, it doesn't look so
fucking far.
948
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Maybe we can, you know, just a
little bit farther.
949
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,840
I can get up there, you know?
And even just like, especially
950
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,120
like seeing Sean win the title
and like.
951
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Having like my coaches right
there in this corner and having
952
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:34,760
my manager in this corner and
just being like that's my
953
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,800
management and my coaches like
he was not supposed to do this.
954
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Like all he really did was just
work hard, show up every day and
955
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
fucking, you know, give it his
all.
956
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,720
It's like, oh, I think I can do
that, you know, It's just it's
957
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,320
really cool to be a part of MC.
Do you ever get worried being 30
958
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,040
years old now with the age and
not making it to the UFC yet?
959
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,680
No, not at all.
I don't even really think about
960
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,880
it, to be honest with you.
I just because I've just been
961
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
doing my thing.
Like I've just been fighting and
962
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,560
I love fighting and I'm just,
you know, I think that I've been
963
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,240
so close a couple of times that,
you know, it just shows me like.
964
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,320
It doesn't really matter.
These opportunities are going to
965
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,240
come back.
As long as you just stick with
966
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,480
training and trying to pursue
the opportunities, the
967
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,120
opportunities will be there.
But being out here and being on
968
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880
the, you know, kind of scene
behind the curtain, so to speak,
969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080
it just shows me how little it
really means.
970
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,920
Like to be honest, like what
really is important to me is
971
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,280
family and like relationships
with my friends and like.
972
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Just being a good person and
stuff and like enjoying the
973
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,040
journey.
Like at this point it's like if
974
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,720
I just wanted to be miserable
all the time, then I can just
975
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:01,120
fucking go get a nine to five
and like make money.
976
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,160
But like I'm going to enjoy this
to the fullest.
977
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040
I'm going to work as hard as I
possibly can and give every
978
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,360
single thing that I can.
So whenever this is done, no
979
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,440
matter how it turns out, I'm
going to know that I I did
980
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,520
everything that I could and.
So you know that that's kind of
981
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,280
out of my control.
Like the results are like the
982
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,760
MMA is so crazy.
Like you can only do so much.
983
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,160
Like no one really has perfect
records other than Khabib, but
984
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,000
he kind of like built that
record.
985
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,640
You know how well all of, if you
look back at his tabology, his
986
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,320
first like 15 fights, like he's
like 13 and O fighting like one
987
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
and three guys.
You know, and then he got to the
988
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,360
UFC, but like obviously he's
amazing.
989
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,080
He's a goat.
He fucking like probably kicked
990
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,960
my fucking ass.
But like he fucking, you know
991
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,080
it.
It was still a built record and
992
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,360
like you can do that and so you
think he kind of took like a
993
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
boxing route almost.
That's the trend.
994
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680
That's what you should do.
That's what I wish I would have
995
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,080
done.
That's what I was trying to do.
996
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,080
But I got too caught up in like
the oh, I'm going to fast track
997
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,640
this shit.
I'm going to beat this fucking
998
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
seven and O guy at three and O.
On Co main event in this guy's
999
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,200
backyard on LFA and Co main
event and I'll fucking jump the
1000
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,960
line and I'll be right there in
contenders and then it sets you
1001
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
back three fights and then I go
and get a win.
1002
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,600
And then the same thing COVID
happened and I had a six month
1003
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,840
old that I'm trying to provide
for and now it's four and one.
1004
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,880
He's four and O and they're
like, hey, can you fly down to
1005
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,320
Miami and fight in three days
And I'm like, well, if I win and
1006
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,680
we're probably going to
contenders one of us, so
1007
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,960
especially at that time, right.
And.
1008
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,480
That's exactly what happened.
He bought Cody Anglin on
1009
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Contender Series right after
that short notice fight or.
1010
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,720
Yeah, he got short notice
against Cody England right after
1011
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:49,720
that.
That's exactly what I was
1012
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,080
thinking would happen for them
to fight.
1013
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,560
Whoever would want would get a
short notice fight.
1014
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,680
And that's exactly what
happened.
1015
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,000
So And I knew that was what was
at stake.
1016
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,240
And so that's why I took the
fight.
1017
00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:59,280
I knew it was going to be a
tough fight.
1018
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,640
I knew he had a lot of scale.
I knew it was dangerous.
1019
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,160
And at the time he was
undefeated.
1020
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160
He had some really crazy
highlight reels, but like.
1021
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360
I just believe him.
So, you know, you've been
1022
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,400
literally that.
Close oh, the paper thin.
1023
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,320
Paper thin.
But it's I don't tripping crazy
1024
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,440
game.
It's a crazy game.
1025
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,920
And that's why I'm saying I
don't trip out on it because
1026
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,440
it's like there's guys in the
gym that like, like I'll fucking
1027
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,720
beat up on people and they're
fucking killing it right now.
1028
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,440
But it's like, I'm not going to
take that personal and be like,
1029
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,920
oh, I should be that.
They should be like, no, we're
1030
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,560
all on our own journey and
fucking.
1031
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,400
I just need to get some wins
together and get on my streak
1032
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,480
and then I'll be.
You know, with some major
1033
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,160
promotion and then it's time for
me to put my work in and and win
1034
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
my fights because that's, you
know, that's my shit.
1035
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,000
It's nothing about anyone else.
Like, you know, I I want to see
1036
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,440
just all my people really do
well, more than anything.
1037
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,200
What do you got to say to
anybody out there?
1038
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:58,120
You fight this Saturday again,
November 4th, Shamrock FC-350
1039
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,800
Saturday.
How does the fight go again?
1040
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,200
What do you got to say to
everybody looking in?
1041
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Yeah, I say don't blink.
I say definitely don't blink
1042
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,680
because like I said, I'm going
to try to drag the fight out.
1043
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,160
I'm going to try to, you know,
be technical and do all the, you
1044
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,800
know, the the good, good, smart
shit that we've been working on.
1045
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,760
But I'm pretty fast and I Zing
people out and I I try to, you
1046
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
know, pull shots and stuff.
You know, whenever we're
1047
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,040
training and it's, you know, but
things are coming together and I
1048
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,160
think that I could see myself
just touching him right on the
1049
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,280
button pretty early and him
going night, night looking to
1050
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,440
possibly be a quick night.
Quick night, quick night.
1051
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,680
It could be a quick night, but
I'm not.
1052
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,120
I'm not going to force it though
either.
1053
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,760
If.
If not, then you're just going
1054
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,480
to watch a fucking striking
display.
1055
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,840
You're going to see some
beautiful work.
1056
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,800
Just slapping.
Slapping the calves, slapping
1057
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,880
the teeth, Bugging hide kids.
Maybe hit him with a spin kick.
1058
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Who knows?
Maybe I'll fucking Sadabu see
1059
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,280
him.
Maybe.
1060
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Maybe I'll just jab him for 15
minutes straight.
1061
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Maybe maybe I'll take him down.
Who knows?
1062
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Who knows?
I just, I think I'm on another
1063
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,920
level, so I'm just going to have
fun with it, do my thing and.
1064
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,640
But MMA is a funny sport and
those little gloves are so
1065
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,600
unforgiving, so I think that.
He catches A shin or glove or,
1066
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,800
you know, those four ouncers,
and I think that it's just going
1067
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,640
to be over before I let you go,
who currently in the UFC right
1068
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:45,480
now do you see kind of as your
mirror somebody just like you,
1069
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,120
somebody the UFC could see, All
right, This guy's kind of like
1070
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,080
this guy.
We should definitely bring him
1071
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,120
in.
Well, I definitely know Train
1072
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,960
with Julianna Rosa.
It feels like I'm fucking
1073
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,480
sparring in a mirror.
We're both moving and long and,
1074
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,880
you know, kicking each other and
doing all types of crazy shit.
1075
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,360
So yeah, I would say like a
Julie and a Rosa.
1076
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
The length and the size gives
off like a Dan hooker vibes
1077
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,160
almost even 2.
Yeah, I mean I'm getting kind of
1078
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,160
a little more more towed down.
I would say like maybe like
1079
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,960
hooker, sorta.
I'm a little more like boxing
1080
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,120
heavy.
So I it's you can't really say
1081
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,360
like Sean O'Malley because he's
like the champ and he's fucking
1082
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,920
sick.
But like, that's your style
1083
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,680
though.
But I kind of like that style a
1084
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,400
little bit.
I like the movement style.
1085
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,040
I like, I like, like how
Wonderboy stays, stays light on
1086
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,560
his feet and we'll like blitz
and and like and move out and
1087
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,920
throw stuff.
And I try to just emulate a
1088
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,240
little bit of everybody,
honestly.
1089
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,320
You know, I try to just pick up
a little bit of everything from
1090
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,520
everyone and and just do cool
shit.
1091
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,560
I'm excited.
Thank you.
1092
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,040
You got me sold.
Is it pay-per-view?
1093
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,360
How do people watch the fight if
they're not going to actually be
1094
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,080
in Missouri?
Thank you, brother.
1095
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Yeah.
Pay-per-view.
1096
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,120
It's going to be on Fight
TVFITETV.
1097
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,760
That's the app.
I think it's 1599, so if you're
1098
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,320
not going to be in Saint Louis,
make sure that you make sure you
1099
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,000
get on Fight, download the Fight
TV app and get on there and
1100
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,960
watch me tear this guy apart.
If you are going to be in Saint
1101
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,760
Louis, hit my IG and make sure
that you get tickets from me
1102
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,040
directly.
Just message me and we'll get
1103
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,600
you squared away.
Perfect.
1104
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,600
Josh Augustine, Nick Malpia,
Shamrock FC-350, Saturday,
1105
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,880
November. 4th Justin thank you
for having me.
1106
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Appreciate your brother.
Thank you.
1107
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,400
Still French up to a 56 Augie,
Josh Augustine.
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What's up guys?
Still French show episode 56.
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I got the main man in the
building.
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Big fight coming up.
I got Augie, Josh, Augustine in
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the building.
Where were you born and raised?
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I was born right outside of St.
Louis, MO.
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Yeah, how big of a town?
Where I grew up was not like I
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wouldn't call it like small
small town like where my family
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is.
It's a little more small town,
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like 100,000.
Yeah, I'd say a couple, really a
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couple 100,000, couple 100,000.
Waterloo is probably like
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because I actually did my OSIT
training at Fort Leonard.
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Wood, that's what I was going to
ask you.
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OK.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So it's like, yeah, yeah.
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So it's like not far, far from
where where we're at.
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So, yeah, that's like O'Fallon,
Illinois, right around there.
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Yeah.
My family is mostly in like
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Monroe County like.
We grew up in like Kokia, Kokia
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Heights area and then now ball
like migrated like a little bit
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more Southwest.
So did you play any other sports
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growing up in Missouri?
Oh yeah.
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I mean, I played everything
growing up.
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I'm mostly.
That's like how I kind of got
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into it was basketball,
baseball, football, soccer.
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Just kind of just played
everything growing up.
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And then my freshman year, I got
like mono, strep throat, some
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like crazy shit before
basketball tryouts.
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And I was going to just play
basketball and I thought I was
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in good.
I was like, oh, I'm.
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I'm good enough, like the coach
just going to let me on team.
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And I didn't go to one day of
the tryouts and they cut me and
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I was like so heartbroken.
I didn't know what to do.
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And then like not even a week
later I was just rolling around
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on scooters and fucking bikes
and shit with my friends, just
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mobbing around in town and
rolled past my first gym that I
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trained at and just like saw in
the window.
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I saw like cages and boxing
rings and stuff.
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And I'd like seen the UFC on TV
before and I was just like, you
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know, into other sports and
shit.
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And I saw it and I was like,
woah, people.
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Like, do this in this town.
Like, that's crazy.
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What year was this?
This was.
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I was.
I was 14.
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So that had to be.
This was like 2009.
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I was like, maybe I just turned
15.
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So like 2009.
Wow.
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Yeah.
And then so just went in
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trained.
I remember I went in.
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Which gym was this?
It was the name was domain MMA.
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Yeah, an old gym.
And it doesn't exist anymore.
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And Dustin Sievers was the was
the head coach of the place and
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so went in on a Saturday and did
like some triangles and more
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like just showed.
Showed me like basic fundamental
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jujitsu.
After that, like held mitts for
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me showed me like some basic
shit and I was like, oh.
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This is it.
Like this is what I'm going to
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do.
It was that quick.
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It was literally instant.
So you were one of those guys
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that actually trained full time
MMA from high school day?
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One full MMA high school that's
part of the new generation, yes.
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So do you feel kind of different
from like what you can do
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compared to what the old
pioneers did, I mean?
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You see it in the sport, like
how quickly it's transitioned
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over the years and how quickly
it's still transitioning, right?
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You see some of the even.
Younger guys, like I'm 30 now
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and seeing some of the guys that
are 2223 years old and they're
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fucking the way they fight and
the way that they're using their
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movement and they're striking
and they're wrestling and
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they're grappling all together
at once.
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Like it, it's just crazy where
the yeah, the fluidity is
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insane.
It's insane.
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It's insane.
And I do feel like in a sense,
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like, yeah, I'm better than the
generation before.
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So like, whenever I see some of
these older guys, I'm like, oh,
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I want to hurry up and get to
the dance now so I can fight
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some of those guys and get like.
Cool highlight reels over like,
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get a little bit of that rub.
Yeah, get a you know what I
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mean?
That'd be awesome.
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But after that, you know, it's
everyone's coming up fast.
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The sport is evolving so
quickly, so cool, and you've
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been in a game now over half
your life, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
I've read about like half my
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life as far as like training,
but like taking it seriously and
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fighting.
I had my first kickboxing fight
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at 16, but I really feel like I
didn't, like, start to really
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take it serious.
So I turned like 18.
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Like, right now.
I got out of high school.
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Actually, I remember I.
I remember I ate some mushrooms
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and I was still going.
I was going to Community College
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for like the first six months
because I didn't like know what
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to tell my family.
I was like, I don't want to be a
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loser.
Everyone says I got to do
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something.
So I went to Community College
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and I was training, getting
ready for fights and I ate some
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mushrooms actually with this guy
and our good friend Matt might
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have to, might have to bleep out
his name, Old Rice House.
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He's a black belt in jiu jitsu.
He used to live with us and like
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trained us, did everything.
We ate some mushrooms.
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We did jiu jitsu for like 8
hours.
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Fucking he just, like, broke
down so much.
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We got like our own personal
seminar.
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And then the next day I go to
class and all I could think
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about whenever I'm sitting
there, I like to not focus on
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anything she was saying because
I just did not give a fuck about
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it.
And I just like, heard what she
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was saying.
I was like, man, I want to be
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the best fucking fighter in the
world and it's not going to
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happen sitting in this
classroom.
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So I remember I left that class
and I was like, I'm not, you
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know, I'm not coming back here.
I'm just going to go to the gym
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and that's what I did and you
dropped out right there and
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never went back.
I don't even didn't do like an
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official drop out.
I just never went back.
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I never did anything ever again.
How did that go with like paying
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for classes and everything?
I had already.
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I had a grant, so everything was
already paid for and everything.
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So I just good old fastball,
walked away.
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Fastball.
Yeah, there you go.
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You already know.
You already know.
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That's what it was.
So at what point did you take
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your first MMA fight?
I took my first MMA fight and
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never I was still a senior in
high school, so I turned 18
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whenever I was a senior.
And then I was already trained
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and I had already done like a
handful of like boxing matches,
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kickboxing matches, a bunch of
jujitsu tournaments and shit.
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So the team I was with hadn't
taken MMA Fight on a local show.
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Whenever I was 18 and actually
lost, I was fucking the dude up,
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like was kicking them all over
the place, punching him, picking
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him up, slamming him.
And then he ended up catching me
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in a guillotine, and I tapped
really quick, 'cause I just,
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like, panicked.
And then after that, I was like,
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oh, I got to feel what it's like
to win.
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And then inside my second fight,
like six months later, my, my
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coach at the time made me get my
blue belt to jiu jitsu.
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So I had to compete a bunch in
the time in between, fought
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again six months later, went
out, demolished this kid in like
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a minute.
And then after that, it started
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to evolve to like, oh, like,
what's next?
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Like, now I felt what it's like
to win.
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And then it was like, oh, I want
to be like the best amateur.
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Like, I think I'm better than
all these guys here in town.
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And so then it.
Just kept fighting and, you
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know, competing and stuff.
And then next thing I know it
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was like, oh, now that you guys
are turning pro and I'm seeing
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guys like kind of pushing
towards the UFC.
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And I'm like, Oh well, I and I'm
watching other UFC fires.
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I'm like, I think, like, I'm
better than some of these guys.
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Like I think my skills could
shine against a lot of these
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people.
And then the next goal was set
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to be the best pro I could be.
And then so I turned pro 4 1/2
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years ago now.
So what age was that that you
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turned pro?
25 Yeah.
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What made you feel like you were
ready to turn pro?
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Was it something specific other
than seeing these other guys?
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Was it something in you?
Like, did you know you were
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going to be a 140 fiver Because
all of your previous fights were
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at 1:45, right?
Did you know that at 1:45,
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looking at this guy
specifically, I can beat him?
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Yeah, I mean people I was
training with at the time.
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There was a lot of professionals
around me and I was.
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Like schooling them like, and
they were like local pros.
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But you know, I was schooling
those guys.
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Also back in 2016, I went out
and trained with Team Elevation
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for like 8 months.
So I was able to train around TJ
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Dillashaw and Shorty.
And you know, I was like
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training with Austin Hubbard and
like, you know, really like a
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bunch of UFC guys and guys that
were coming up.
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And I was at Dwayne Ludwig's
gym.
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So I kind of saw where I was at
then, and that was about I think
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like a year before I turned pro,
or maybe a year and a half
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before I turned pro.
So I knew where I was at, like
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skill wise, I knew that I was
already like UFC caliber, kind
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of like if I had just if I could
fight the right fights, find the
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right fights.
And so whenever I turned pro, it
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was like I knew that I was
pretty much ready to go from the
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drone, especially when you look
at your size, right 6/1.
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Yeah, that was a big thing.
Like 145.
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The reach, the length
athleticism 2 behind it.
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Yeah, exactly.
Like the speed with the length
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is very dangerous.
Like whenever you look at guys
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like one of my favorite boxers
is a big boxing fan.
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Growing up it was Tommy Hearns.
Tommy Hearns long fought 147 and
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six one, but he had a 78 inch
reach.
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Mine is only 74, which is still
long.
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But like 78's insane and he was
just fucking KO people with his
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speed and his length.
And so that was something that I
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kind of saw, you know, just
throughout practice and over
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time that I knew.
I knew I would be able to if I
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caught people with good shots,
like it didn't matter who it
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was, especially with the four
ounce glove.
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Those are just sleeping pills.
And so I knew I just had to get
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out there and just have fights
and have make those special
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moments happen.
So you turn pro, all of your
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fights, you're 145, right?
At one point you do go up and
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wait, right?
But that's kind of after you go
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on a hot streak at 1:45, right?
Yeah, that led up to fighting in
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Titan FC, right?
How did that fight go for you?
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Like, how did you see that
going?
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What happened during the leg
kick?
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So, so that fight I took on four
days notice.
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I fought Mohammed Naimov and
he's obviously he's a stud like
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he's doing it on the UFC now.
And I mean, I would still like
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to run it back with him
honestly.
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And I think that I could get the
best of him and I was doing
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good.
I felt like I was going to just
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hit him with punches and knock
him out, but.
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His kicks were insane and he
made me better that night.
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Just learning how to defend
kicks.
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And it is what it is, you know,
like that's that's really the
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sport.
It was a very humbling
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experience.
Like, I didn't think that that
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could happen to me, like 'cause
I was out striking people.
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I was knocking people out.
I I had lost previously that to
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a guy who was seven and O Ty
Clark, who was coming off The
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Ultimate Fighter and I just had
had my third fight.
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I had three fights in four
months and you know, I was like
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once I lost that fight, he had
missed weight.
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By £5 I allowed it, you know, he
took a little pay cut, went out
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there and he squeaked the
decision.
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But in my mind I was like, OK, a
little more experience.
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I can smoke that guy.
It wasn't really like a lost and
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it still really isn't.
And but the Muhammad Naymar
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fight, he he beat me fair and
square that night.
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Like that night he beat me at
what I thought I was going to be
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better than him at.
So that was what was very
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humbling and that's what was
like.
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Hard to, you know, kind of have
to reset and overcome.
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He broke my leg in that fight,
so I physically had to like
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rebound and fucking, you know
what I mean?
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Start from scratch again.
And now, So that's what actually
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dropped you though was the leg
break, Yeah.
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Yeah, he broke my leg in the
first round and then I kept
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going and then he kept hitting
him and that shit sucked.
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So he broke it early in the
first round.
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Yeah, I think it was like the
third or fourth kick.
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He broke my fibula.
The outside, outside bone in the
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leg.
Yeah, And then?
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He landed a few like, I don't
know, like 10 or 15 in the
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second round.
Yeah, second round.
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He ended up putting me down with
him, yeah, So he just kicked the
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spot that was already broken.
Yeah, yeah, He just put it right
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on there.
And I was trying to, you know,
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tough it out.
But it is what it is.
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And then obviously you have like
a bunch of people talking shit
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afterwards and you're like, bro,
my leg was broke.
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Like, what?
Kind of fucked up.
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What kind of X-ray did that look
like?
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It wasn't too gnarly.
It was just like a clean
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fracture.
Lucky.
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Like, yeah, yeah, that's.
I really did get lucky and I was
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actually back.
Sparring.
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Like five months later, like
almost five months to the day I
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was back sparring and I had a
really shitty teammate who was,
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who was like jealous or
something and tried to fucking
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take my leg out very first
sparring session.
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And that set me back another two
months.
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And then after that, that two
months, I was back doing good.
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I ended up tearing my hip labrum
on the other side and then I had
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to get surgery and I was out and
that's what was the 18 month
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layoff between the Titan fight
and my first fight on Shamrock.
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But even through that
experience, what was that
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experience like through that
recovery and that rehab?
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I I took it really serious, like
I was just zoned in because I
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had doctors and physical
therapists telling me that.
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I might never be able to do this
again.
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And I got a kid to fucking
provide for.
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And I'm like really invested in
this, you know, like this is my
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this is my baby as well, and I'm
not going to let anyone take
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that from me.
And just because the doctor
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says, like, this would like, you
can't do this, you shouldn't do
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this.
I don't give a shit what anyone
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says, Like I'm going to make
this shit happen, get rich or
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die trying and so.
You know, I was just so focused
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on rehabbing and getting strong,
get my upper body strong that
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whenever I came back I was a
better athlete than I ever was,
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which was crazy.
Like, it was insane.
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Like, I What did you do in that
18 months?
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Because physically you look
completely different, right?
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The amount of muscle that got
put on.
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Yeah, I mean, I I literally just
hit the weights, changed my
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whole diet, like.
I was, you know, I'd eat pretty
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shitty.
I was still eating like a kid,
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like I was, you know, I just ate
whatever I wanted, like just
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whatever tasted good because I
could skate down to the weight
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because I was so skinny at 1:45.
And then once I found out about
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all, you know, I knew about
nutrition and I knew how to go
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about things and I would kind
of, you know, for the most part,
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I'd eat healthy and have have
decent camps leading into that.
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But I wasn't super strict and
once once the surgery happened,
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I knew that I needed to be.
All my PS and QS, everything
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needed to be perfect.
I made sure that my my intake of
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food went up.
I was lifting, I was doing upper
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body lifts once in the morning
or at night depending on my work
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schedule, and I would do my
rehab for my for my leg and the
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opposite workout.
So I was doing basically like 2
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a day lifts for like six months
after the surgery.
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So by the time we rolled into
that next fight, I was fucking
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shredded like I was so big.
Peak condition, peak condition.
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And I mean, you went on a tear,
right?
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Like you go back-to-back wins
against Thomas Thatcher and then
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Josh Weston, both TKL finishes,
right?
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Yeah.
Then looks like you were kind of
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on your way to victory against
Josh Henry, you would say,
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right.
And then he hit you with the
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body shot talking through that.
What was that like, that big
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body shot?
I mean, honestly, I more it was
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more.
I just gassed out.
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Like I'd gassed out before the I
blew my wad in the first round.
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I overlooked him early in the
fight.
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I had a lot of personal shit
going on into that fight.
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I just moved out here and I
didn't have much of A camp.
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Like I was kind of just thinking
I can just get through this
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camp, do whatever practices and
then roll into that fight, smoke
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Josh Weston and then and then
just move on.
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You know, go on and and be in
the UFC or whatever.
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Get signed and then go to, you
know, one of the coaches and
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say, hey, I'll tell you to put
together their camp or whatever
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and.
Like then it'd be perfect.
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But you know, I learned the hard
way that you really got to take
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every single guy 100% serious,
especially like a 17 fight
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veteran, even though he's not,
doesn't have the best record.
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He's lost to good guys and he's
pretty fucking solid.
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He came to fucking fight that
night and I just showed up just
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to like smoke him, you know,
Like I thought I was just going
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to blow through him and that was
that, like.
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You know, he ate some really
heavy shots.
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He ate a lot.
He ate some fucking knees of the
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face that I was sure we're going
to put them away.
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And I was putting everything on
him and but it taught me, you
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know, it taught me to be a
veteran.
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Now this is my 10th pro fight
and I get to roll in and really
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showcase my skills and not be in
a rush every fight I've been in
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a rush to fucking put people
away and I it it's worked out.
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But it's also worked against me
as well and the Ty Clark fight
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and the Muhammad Naya Law fight
and now in the Josh Henry fight.
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And so now I get to go out there
and just be try and be relaxed
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as possible, just fucking
outclass this guy and just start
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getting more comfortable.
I want more cage time.
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Like, I could see myself
catching this dude early and
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then putting him away and, you
know, having another quick
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finish.
But I wouldn't mind sitting in
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there and having like 10-12
minutes and then getting like a
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late finish, honestly, just
because I want to get
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comfortable in there.
I I want to, I want to show all
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the skills I've been working on.
I want to break them down.
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I want to you know, I want to
show it all.
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And you are talking about the
fight that's coming up.
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This is going to come out on
Tuesday, so fight will be this
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Saturday, November 4th.
You're fighting at Shine Rock
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FC-350.
It's going to be at the
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Ameristar Casino in Kansas City
against Nick Malpin, right?
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Saint Louis it's going to be in.
It's in Saint Louis.
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Oh, it's not in Caleb.
There's another marathon in
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Kansas City, though.
OK, yeah, sorry about that.
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No worries.
No worries.
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And like you said, you feel
great coming into the fight.
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Would your guess be that you do
get him out of there early?
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Yeah.
My guess would be that I get him
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out of there early.
I'm not in a rush, though.
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Like I said, I think that he has
to really try to force.
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Put me against the cage making
me tired and making me work and
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stuff because if he sits
outside, he's going to get
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sniped.
Like I'm not even going to have
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to try to force it.
He's he's going to fall into
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something and he's going to go
away.
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Like there's just there's no way
that he's going to be able to
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take some of my shots and then
he.
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So he's going to have to force,
he's going to have to force it
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and that that could get him out
of there, honestly.
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Hit him back with, you know,
some kind of counter shot and I
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could see that putting him away.
I've done that a number of times
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but.
I'm just not in a rush, man.
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I think if I go out there, stuff
a few shots and just sit in his
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face and chill, I could have the
performance of a lifetime, the
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highlight reel of a lifetime
and, you know, have something
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really special.
But I wouldn't be surprised if,
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like, I'd go out and just throw
a combination in his face and
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he's like, oh fuck.
And then I just put up a head
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kick and he's like, yeah, I'm
good, let's get out of here.
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Yeah, yeah.
But that way, either way, it's
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all good.
And I mean, how do you think his
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gas tank's going to be with him
taking the fight on such short
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notice?
I don't know.
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I know he's a tough dude from
Kentucky.
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I know it was Kentucky,
Louisiana, fucking Mississippi
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mud like.
And the country boys they come
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to, they come to scrap whether
they're in shape or not.
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So you know, I'm just planning
on him being there for a little
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bit and I know I'm in good ass
shape and.
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I'm looking to show it.
Do you almost want to stretch it
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out knowing that you know he's
taking?
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It on such short notice.
I mean, sort of, but it's hard
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not to.
Like if you catch someone, it's
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hard not to just try to just
fucking just get him out of
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there as quickly as possible.
Like, at least for me, it's just
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like I want to just well, like
you said, you've learned over
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the past nine pro fights of your
career.
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Coming to the 10th fight, you
better at doing that now,
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slowing down a little bit, not
any time with it.
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That's all I've been working on
in the gym.
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That's all.
And just and just playing the in
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between game and really just
breaking down the PS and QS and
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fighting and not you know just
relying on my athleticism and
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and just you know like in the
Josh Weston fight it was great.
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It's great highlights and
there's great, like, it's cool
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to see me go back and fucking
just like drop them with 1232
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like.
But it's all really simple
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combinations.
It's all really the same setup
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and I'm excited to go out there
and just like mix all different
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setups and movements and really
put together something special
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that that I'm proud of.
Even if, like, no one recognizes
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what it is like, it'll still be
cool just to go out there and do
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the shit that I worked on and
then make something materialize
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off of that and then, you know,
start to really build something
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within the next couple of fights
off that.
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You were talking kind of about
the winning streak you were on
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and how that was leading to you
believe in.
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With this victory, I might be in
the UFC the next fight.
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Where do you think that stands
now?
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How many fights away do you
think you are from the UFC?
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I don't know.
I mean, after this one, maybe I
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could get something on short
notice.
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Possibly.
I mean, I think it's you just
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got to be on a win streak for
that to even be a reality.
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And at 7:00 and 3:00 there's
other guys that have gotten
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signed at 6:00 and 3:00.
That you've seen recently like a
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guy who fought Blood Diamond was
six and three, he beat him.
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Now he's 7:00 and 3:00.
So it's like I think that I've
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had enough good fights and hard
fights and and you know I have a
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lot of knockouts and I would be
a good show in the UFC to where
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I think it could happen after
this one.
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But it's more likely that it
happens after maybe another one
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after this, maybe eight and
three, nine and three maybe 1-2
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fights.
I think after a three fight win
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streak being nine and three,
it's almost undeniable so.
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You know, I'm wanting to stay
active, so I'm going to keep
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booking shit all the way up to 9
and three and hopefully,
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hopefully we're good then.
So last fight was a lightweight
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fight, right?
But you came in 157 live over
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157 1/2, Yeah, Yeah, fight
before that was a catchweight
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fight at 175, but before that
was at 165.
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And then obviously, like we
said, everything else previous
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was a featherweight 145 fight.
Is the weight a problem going
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00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,640
into the 155 or even 145 these
days?
445
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,440
No, 145 will definitely be
tough.
446
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960
Absolutely.
Especially now, I think I'm
447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,720
about as big as you can possibly
be to be a 45, but So what would
448
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800
you be looking at going into the
UFC at right now?
449
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,080
Would it be lightweight?
No, 45 one, it would
450
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,360
featherweight.
It would still be featherweight.
451
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:46,680
Yeah, I would.
Want to compete at featherweight
452
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,160
in the UFCI?
Feel like that's where I'm going
453
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,800
to be the most competitive at,
but.
454
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,480
Yeah, for local shows, regional
shows like this, for a guy to
455
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,040
hop in on short notice and want
and ask for 55, he's had fights
456
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,120
at 45 and 50 before.
It's like, why not take it?
457
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,400
I think my skills are going to
go out there and shine and it
458
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,440
makes it a little easier that I
don't have to cut as much
459
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,440
weight.
The 57 thing last time we had
460
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,520
made weight over at the at the
sauna in the gym that we were at
461
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,240
when I was cutting the weight on
the same scale.
462
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960
And then we went over there and
then I was £2.00 over and it was
463
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,880
like a 30 minute drive between.
And they had, you know, the
464
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760
opponent came down and we were
like, hey man, do you like if
465
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,920
you're going to like take my
money, then I'll go back to the
466
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,120
sauna and I'll go cut the the
two pounds or pound and a half
467
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:38,920
or whatever it was And you know,
then we can, you know, I don't
468
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,080
give a fuck like I'll go back
and do it, but it's going to
469
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,920
take me till the end of.
Weigh insurance to do it.
470
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760
So you're going to have to wait
like 2 hours before you
471
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,320
rehydrate.
And he was like, no, no, it's
472
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,080
fine.
Let's just do it.
473
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,360
I'm not going to take the money.
Let's just let's just run it.
474
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,400
Which was pretty cool.
That was actually really sick.
475
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,640
Yeah, pretty cool.
But he saw we were literally
476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,360
cutting weight together.
So like he So what do you think
477
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,960
happened with the issue with the
scale?
478
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,920
I don't know.
I really have no idea.
479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,880
I like, maybe it was an unstable
floor.
480
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,040
Do you have any?
Yeah, I don't know.
481
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680
It was the weirdest thing ever,
though, because I had hit
482
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,600
weight.
And we're like, all right, we're
483
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,040
cool.
Didn't drink anything.
484
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240
Go over there.
And get on the scale.
485
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,080
I'm like, oh, let's just check
real quick for officials.
486
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,960
And I'm like, what the fuck,
like, how long do I got?
487
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,480
They're like, oh, you got like 2
hours.
488
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,040
We're like, well, we got like 45
minutes worth of traffic to get
489
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,080
through.
But then after that, I know I
490
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520
can get a pound and a half off.
I mean, it won't take that long,
491
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,480
you know, But yeah, the way it
worked out didn't really need to
492
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,280
it.
Didn't really need to.
493
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,120
There was not necessary.
It was a local show.
494
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,160
I think he kind of, you know, he
understood the big picture.
495
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,160
It's like, yeah, so it was
pretty cordial then.
496
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Yeah.
You think it was uneven ground
497
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,240
like at the sauna or?
Or maybe at the gym, I'm not
498
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,080
sure.
I think he could have been at
499
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,880
the gym because then once it was
flat, everyone else made weight
500
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,240
just fine.
So that was the other thing.
501
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,760
I was like, like, I don't
understand how we fucked up.
502
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200
I feel like I have to take
responsibility for it at the end
503
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920
of the day.
But I don't understand where we
504
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,720
fucked up and I don't know what
happened.
505
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000
I How weird was that cutting
weight with him in the sauna
506
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,200
with you?
It wasn't that weird.
507
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,920
He was pretty cool, actually.
I had my guys with me and he was
508
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,920
by himself.
Yeah.
509
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,400
Yeah.
It looked like he was really
510
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,520
struggling.
Yeah, But it was, it was cool.
511
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,320
It was cool.
He was.
512
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,400
He was a good guy.
You know, that's veteran shit.
513
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080
We're all here for the same same
reason.
514
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
We're all here to get paid and
take care of our family.
515
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880
And you know, it's not.
It's nothing personal.
516
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600
What's the worst?
Weight cut you've ever had.
517
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Probably making 1:45 for the Ty
Clark fight in my 4th pro fight
518
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:54,080
just because I had made 1:45 in.
April, June, August.
519
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,480
And then had to do it again two
weeks after or three weeks after
520
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,600
that fight in August, so twice
in August.
521
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,000
So that was tough, yeah?
And then he missed weight by £5.
522
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,040
What do you remember from the
weight cut?
523
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,400
I mean, we just, it was ugly
again.
524
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Travel.
It didn't really get too bad.
525
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,360
You were there for it.
It wasn't too bad, right?
526
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,400
No.
Like, I mean, I just.
527
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,760
I just remember just being
tired, worn out.
528
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,640
The camp was really hard, like.
Getting through, you know,
529
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,800
getting through training and
stuff was it was kind of like it
530
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,000
was a grind.
It was like, you know, it wasn't
531
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,960
like fun and like I'm like
competitive.
532
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,280
It was like, fuck, I got to get
through this workout to get this
533
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,960
weight off kind of thing.
And I was really banged up.
534
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880
I actually had had gotten a
concussion right after that
535
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,720
fight and training after we got
the LFA fight call and so, you
536
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240
know, I got the concussion plus
I just cut weight and it was
537
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,040
like, damn, you know, we still
got to make this happen.
538
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Obviously that was hush hush
until.
539
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Until after the fight.
But then I had like a few, you
540
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400
know, a little bit of symptoms
after that where I had to chill
541
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080
out and not take a fight until
my next.
542
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,200
My next one was in February.
I think I had to take like six
543
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,080
months off.
Oh, wow.
544
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Yeah, that's and no surgery was
needed.
545
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,600
No, no, no.
It was just like like dizzy
546
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,200
spells, stuff like that.
And it's just like, oh, just
547
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,160
nothing.
It was nothing crazy, OK, Yeah.
548
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,840
You think it's going to be easy
to make 55 this time?
549
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Pretty easy for you?
Yeah, I.
550
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Think it's going to be really
easy because you said you're
551
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,280
walking around 170.
Yeah, yeah, we were.
552
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440
I mean, I was trending down for
45, we were ready for 45 with my
553
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000
original opponent and then he
had, you know, he wanted to do
554
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,360
150 and I was like, all right,
cool, like, you know, the £5
555
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:39,400
will make that way easier.
And then he fell out, we got the
556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,120
new guy and he asked for 55 and
it was like, all right, it's
557
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,200
only £5 more than what I was
already going to do.
558
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,880
I was ending practices around
like. 165 waking up at 170.
559
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,680
So it was like you know let's
just do 55.
560
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480
Get comfy.
Had went over to Uncle Frank's
561
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,320
literally the day that we
fucking got it done and signed
562
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,280
the contract went to Unco's me
and Shorty got Nick's plate.
563
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:12,720
We got the chicken obviously
fire and poke nachos fire.
564
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Yeah, but he hasn't.
He was his first time there, so.
565
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,800
We had to.
I had to.
566
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840
I had to show him the ropes, you
know?
567
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Hell yeah.
Uncle Frank's all the way.
568
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Oh, all day, baby.
I can't wait to go after my
569
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,400
fight, so 15 pounds £14.00 to
cut.
570
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240
What does that week look like
Cutting that weight?
571
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,520
So I'll have to start cutting my
carbs back, probably starting
572
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,200
tomorrow, and then that should
get me about like 5-6 pounds.
573
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,760
And then that's going to and the
rest will just be water.
574
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,800
So nice little £9 water cut.
I'll be looking nice and shreddy
575
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560
and then roll in and, you know,
be all good.
576
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Take all the picks for IG.
Yeah, shred it up, Flex the ABS
577
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,800
a little bit.
Hell yeah.
578
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Have them break out the pro Cam.
Got this.
579
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Got the good angle?
OK, we're good.
580
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Would you ever do an only fans?
I don't know if I would do a
581
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,880
sexual only fans, but I would do
like an only fans, kind of like
582
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,920
I know my boy Shorty and I know
a few other athletes who've
583
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520
gotten only fans deals where
they do like mental health
584
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:27,760
videos and like, you know, like
training stuff and talk about,
585
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
you know, whatever.
And then that stuff's cool to
586
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,840
me.
I would, I would do some stuff
587
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600
like that or maybe just like put
out our own content.
588
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Like I don't see why it has to
be that way.
589
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720
I would almost rather put out
like fun shit with my friends,
590
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
like blog type stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
591
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800
Almost like kind of like, yeah,
like TV reality show kind of
592
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,040
thing.
Like I think that would be like
593
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,600
that would be more, that'd just
be different, just be different
594
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,960
than what else everyone else is
doing.
595
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080
But you'd have a lot of interest
in doing that type of stuff.
596
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280
I would have more interest in
doing something like that, just
597
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920
creating content in general.
Yes.
598
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Then then, like, only fan shit.
It's kind of, yeah, who would
599
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040
inspire you?
Like what type of content would
600
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:11,120
you like to create?
Like Robin Big was one of my
601
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000
favorite shows.
Or like mixed with like you ever
602
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080
see like 2A Days on MTV back in
the day, I haven't known.
603
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Do you didn't see that Uber
high?
604
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,760
No, no, no.
Man, it's a good one.
605
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,120
You got to go back and see that.
I'll, I'll, I'll like send send
606
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920
me a link.
Yeah, and because I loved Robin.
607
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Big ridiculousness.
I was going to say fantasy.
608
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Factory, factory, that type of
like vibe makes maybe like an
609
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480
old like Jackass kind of vibe
but like.
610
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,960
You ever see like Mac Miller's
TV show?
611
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,120
No.
Oh, Mac Miller had a cool little
612
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,120
TV show.
I had no idea.
613
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,400
It's just.
Like him and his friends just
614
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
fucking around like and I'm
like, that would be cool because
615
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,760
they could like mix the training
in with like we meet cool people
616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240
and it's like crazy.
We'll just be like, Oh my God,
617
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,640
we just fucking ran into so and
so.
618
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that sounds sick.
619
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
You like cool dinners.
Like, somehow I know that
620
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360
there's magic within it.
I'm in it.
621
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Especially today in the world of
content consumption.
622
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040
It's insane.
It's it's there it's there and
623
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920
especially with short where
Shorty's AT and like where
624
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,520
everyone's headed in the gym and
like who else were around and I
625
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200
feel like you know a couple more
wins get get a little more buzz
626
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
going and like it, you know it
could be a cool thing create
627
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
that career outside of fighting
and post fight.
628
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,560
Oh dude, what you got to
especially now being 30.
629
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
I see that now more than ever.
Is that insane dude being?
630
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
30 It's weird.
It's weird, but like, your brain
631
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
kind of naturally starts to
like, see these things like.
632
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Like, I didn't start thinking
about other, like, outside
633
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,000
opportunities, like at all.
But now I've met a few people
634
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,720
that have shown me other things
that I've thought like, oh, I
635
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280
think I'll take money from
fighting and do something like
636
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
this.
But I never thought about how
637
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600
I'm going to go from A to B to C
to D to like, having it done.
638
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,960
And now I'm meeting people that
have done it and it's tried and
639
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,360
true with them.
And they're like actually
640
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880
experienced in that, you know,
like almost being able to have
641
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,200
like a coach.
And so it's like.
642
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,480
OK, now I know.
Exact.
643
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Like I know Exactly.
Makes all the world difference,
644
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,720
huh?
Right.
645
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Right.
Doesn't feel like you're just
646
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080
shooting in the dark, like you
actually have somebody that has
647
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,560
done it.
Yes, exactly.
648
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,400
And like, I think that, yeah, I
I'm just excited to, I'm not
649
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,640
excited to like move on to that
chapter, but I think like you
650
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
can do it at the same time.
Yeah, you can do it at the same
651
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,600
time.
You should do it at the same
652
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400
time.
Yeah, I mean, you have to.
653
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,680
You have to.
You don't want to wait.
654
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600
You like and that's that's.
Well, you're either going to be
655
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,920
doing that, or busing tables
exactly.
656
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Exactly.
That's pretty much where I'm at,
657
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,680
doing security or doing
construction.
658
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Or and that's the crazy thing is
I'll be like doing security on
659
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280
like Friday, Saturday night I
started talking to this guy who
660
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240
is doing like all this crazy
stuff with stocks and you know,
661
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,800
he's explained to me like good
and bad dad.
662
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
We started talking about like
rich dad, poor dad and like all
663
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,240
these different things.
And I was like, I'm on the vibe
664
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
with this guy and like one of my
other I might have to clip this,
665
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040
but like one of my other
security guards is like.
666
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Interrupting us a little bit and
like just like asking like
667
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,360
weird, like questions about
like, security stuff like, but
668
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
it wasn't like anything, you
know what I'm saying?
669
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,920
Like, nothing's happening.
He's just trying to, like
670
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,440
engage.
But he like, didn't know how.
671
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,240
And like, I was like, you know,
I'm just like, this is not I I
672
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,760
need to be here, not here.
And I need to figure out how to
673
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960
get there.
And I think, like, fighting is
674
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,800
actually a pretty good way for
me to bridge that gap,
675
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,080
especially like, where I'm at
right now.
676
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360
And you're headlining shows.
You're the main event in a lot
677
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,520
of shows, right?
Right.
678
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Yeah.
Are you guys the main event this
679
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,920
week too?
Were the main events.
680
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,000
There you go.
So yeah hopefully that's what
681
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,440
I'm saying.
Hopefully after this one UFC
682
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,720
just and you get a 55 or bad on
24 hours notice.
683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
I'll fucking drive my happy ass
over to the apex and be like let
684
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
me just get a four fight deal,
let me get three more at 45
685
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320
after this come on in for him.
Do you think that they're going
686
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,160
to want to see you fight at 145
before you they give you that
687
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520
contract?
I think they would because it's
688
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640
been like three years at this
point before since you fought at
689
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,240
1:45.
Oh yeah.
690
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,360
If they were going to bring me
in at 45, I think that they
691
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
would want to see it.
But I like you said you're
692
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,840
you're 232 fights out, one fight
out, possibly you could even be
693
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,440
on short notice.
No, exactly.
694
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080
That's what I'm thinking too.
I beat this guy, I go in, I make
695
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120
45 in my next fight, show him I
can make 45 and then I'm sitting
696
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,000
at 8:00 and 3:00 on a two fight
notice and it's like they need
697
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,080
me at 55 grade if.
You know, if they want to bring
698
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480
me in at 45 and give me a week
or two, that's fine too.
699
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,240
It's just it's just it would
suck to have to make 45 on like
700
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,880
a week or something like that.
I'd probably die because I would
701
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440
give it my all.
You think that's something
702
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
they'd do to you, though?
They'd give you that fight at
703
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,960
1:45.
I don't know.
704
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,800
They're pretty.
Like, they don't give a fuck.
705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,680
So, like, yeah, probably they're
like, well, make it or don't.
706
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Like, here's the opportunity,
bro.
707
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,160
I'd be like, yeah.
Does it ever make you want to
708
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,840
walk around closer to 45?
I definitely do my best for the
709
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,480
most part.
Definitely do my best for the
710
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
most part.
Like I would like whenever I was
711
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,199
trending down to 45, it wasn't
like I was killing myself.
712
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,000
The fucking.
I'm just eating good, eating
713
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
healthy and just being hydrated
and just being smart and getting
714
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,960
an extra training sessions and
just.
715
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,760
Making sure I'm just selling my
PS and QS.
716
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,679
So it's the only reason I'm
saying is because you're massive
717
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,000
now in that three-year span, the
amount of muscle you put on like
718
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,719
at featherweight, you're going
to look like Dracus duplicis.
719
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Well, you're going to be huge.
Well, I'm going to look a lot
720
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,159
skinnier than my last fight.
My last fight I was walking
721
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,480
around about like 180.
Now I'm walking around about 70,
722
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360
so I am going to be
significantly skinnier.
723
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,840
But I do have more muscle mass
now than I did whenever I was at
724
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,199
45 previously, for sure.
So yeah, probably.
725
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,159
But definitely you can feel the
less muscle mass in the last
726
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,520
fight, yeah.
For sure I'm I'm wasting.
727
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Do you feel it in strength as
well?
728
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,840
Yes, yes, big time.
But do you also feel it in
729
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
stamina?
Yes, yes.
730
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
I feel like it's honestly like
the perfect thing for me because
731
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880
it's a better mix.
It's a better mix because I was
732
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960
really struggling with my cardio
whenever I first got out of
733
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,160
here.
So I was trying to muscle things
734
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
and do things and now I've been
working with Dennis Davis, like,
735
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,720
you know, since I've been out
here pretty much and.
736
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,680
You know, he's just a
technician.
737
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
And so he just, I'm just trying
to do his things, preach, you
738
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
know, and just do the things he
preaches and just do all the
739
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,720
right things.
And this is just how my body
740
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,560
kind of turned out after six
months, you know, like it just
741
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,520
like kind of molded to like how
it was supposed to be.
742
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,280
And now it's like all coming
together.
743
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,800
Now my cardio feels better than
ever.
744
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,600
I'm really, really strong for
1:45.
745
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,760
I can't just muscle around the
155 like I was before, but.
746
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,000
I'd rather be the best 40 fiver
in the world than like a top
747
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,720
2555.
Realistically, where do you
748
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,400
think you rank as a
featherweight in the world right
749
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:59,080
now?
I'm up there.
750
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,840
No bias.
I'm up there.
751
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,440
What do you think?
It's considering everybody in
752
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,520
the UFC, the PFL and Bellator.
I know and everyone just a rough
753
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,480
number.
What do you think?
754
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,000
I'm up there.
What do you think?
755
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Top ten?
Top ten?
756
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Yeah, in the world.
I don't see why not.
757
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,040
I don't know.
I mean, look, with your size,
758
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,000
you're 145.
Yeah, I think 6/1/74 inch reach.
759
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,760
So like today, top, I would say
like and you're not scrawny
760
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,800
either.
I would say like top ten, top 15
761
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680
right now, but I think the Sky's
the limit because I think in the
762
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,120
next three or four years I.
That's like more time.
763
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,720
The more time I get with Dennis
and the more time that I put in
764
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,720
out here at Extreme, the more
rounds I put in, the more I
765
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,120
continue to poop my best effort
into out working everyone in the
766
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,760
room.
It's going to pay off dividends
767
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640
and I'm already like able to
compete with all the best
768
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,240
people.
So I'll say Maz Burnell fucking
769
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,600
sucks to go with him fucking
sucks.
770
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520
He's awesome.
So that would be that would
771
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,840
suck.
But I feel like.
772
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,200
I'm doing pretty well.
I'm doing pretty well, but
773
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,640
that's what you'd feel on par
with.
774
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,680
What, like a mad spir now?
Oh no.
775
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
I mean, he's one of the best in
the world.
776
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,960
He is the.
I think he's the best in the
777
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040
world.
I think Madge is number one in
778
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,600
the world right now.
I think he would be both,
779
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120
really.
That's just what I think.
780
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040
He's unbelievable.
He's really hard.
781
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Like, it's really hard to train
with him because he is just so
782
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
savage and his technique is
perfect.
783
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
His boxing's unbelievable.
His fucking kicks, unbelievable.
784
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,280
His, the way he plays the game
is perfect.
785
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,680
It's like, it's like he's a
grappler but with great striking
786
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440
and he uses his striking to
grapple.
787
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,240
So it's like he's unbelievable.
But to have someone like that to
788
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,640
train with and you know, and I
don't want to say like use him,
789
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
but like have him as like a
scope and like.
790
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,560
Being able to train with guys
like Julianna Rosa, Jordan
791
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,320
Levitt, like guys like that,
like they're kicking the shit
792
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,720
out of me whenever I first got
here, man, You know what I mean?
793
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,840
And you got to fucking.
You are either going to just be
794
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,720
a beating boy or you're going to
figure a way out, or you're
795
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,600
going to figure out how to start
doing shit and you're going to
796
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920
ask questions.
And I've just been trying to
797
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,440
just ask the right questions and
just continue to get better.
798
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,400
And having all these fucking O
GS around me is just like.
799
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,840
It's such a blessing.
So I don't really know where.
800
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,480
It's like, hard to say because
everything is different on Fight
801
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,800
Night.
I think like, yeah, I could be
802
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,520
the best in the world for sure
if I perform with the best of my
803
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,160
abilities anytime I go out
there.
804
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
But on any given night, anything
could happen.
805
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080
So it's, you know what I mean?
It's hard to say, but I can
806
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
definitely train with all the
best 40 fives and 50 fives on
807
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520
the planet for sure.
That's what's awesome to see
808
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,720
about Extreme.
But yeah, of course I'm going to
809
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,400
be biased.
It's hard not to be biased like,
810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
but no, it's crazy like you do
train at one of the best gyms in
811
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,240
the world, Extreme couture.
Who would you say is the best
812
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,560
fighter you've ever fought or
trained with?
813
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:20,240
The best I've ever trained with
is Mads or Matt Rice House, and
814
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,360
best I've ever fought was
Muhammad Naima.
815
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Yeah, Muhammad's pretty.
He's pretty good.
816
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,880
But.
I feel like I can get the rest
817
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,160
of them still.
I want to get that rematch.
818
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Like whenever I get to the UFC,
that's going to be the first
819
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,920
call that I make.
I want Muhammad and I'm off.
820
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,680
I want to get that lost back.
Would you ask for that to be
821
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,280
your entry fight into the UFC?
I would, but he's on a run right
822
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,440
now, so I don't know, like it's
kind of an unrealistic thing to
823
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,960
ask for.
I would probably have to go get
824
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,800
a win or two and then or at
least get one win and then you
825
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
could ask for it.
But if they gave it to me, it'd
826
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
be like.
It would be a blessing, you
827
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,560
know, but I you can't really go
into the company saying, hey,
828
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,120
you know, I want this, I.
Want.
829
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,680
I guess you wouldn't have to go
in demanding it, but you could
830
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480
kind of approach it with that
angle of almost pitching it like
831
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,320
hey, you know there is a back
story there if you guys do need
832
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,320
a short notice flight, I don't,
I don't think he'd turn it down.
833
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,120
I won't turn it down.
Right.
834
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,200
No, I think, I don't know.
I I mean, I don't know really
835
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,320
what their plan is with him.
I know that he has a really big
836
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
fan base.
And so they seem to have their
837
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960
own plan with everybody that
they do they they promote.
838
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
So yeah, I would definitely not
be against that.
839
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
I want to fight Mohammed one way
or another.
840
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Might have to say that after the
fight, might have to do my post
841
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,960
fight right there.
There you go.
842
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,880
When did you first start
watching MMA?
843
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Like when did you become a fan?
I was pretty young man.
844
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,000
I remember watching Ernesto Hoos
in the old K1 days and old
845
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,040
pride.
It was on like.
846
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Fox Sports Midwest.
I was like 7 or 8 years old,
847
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,720
like 6 years old.
I remember I was really young in
848
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,040
my dad's little one bedroom
apartment and we would fucking
849
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,280
he would put that shit on.
I remember watching like Bob
850
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,280
Sapp and like Ernesto Hoost.
I remember that fight would be
851
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,200
on repeat and yeah.
Was that a pride fight?
852
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000
It was a pride fight, yeah.
I couldn't remember if it was K1
853
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,160
or Pride.
I don't know.
854
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,960
I it might have been K1.
I think it's Pride though, if
855
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,680
I'm not mistaken, but it could
be K1.
856
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Yeah, I'm not sure.
But it's one of those.
857
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Yeah, it was awesome either way.
Wow.
858
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,840
So early 2000s.
Early 2000s for sure.
859
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,920
And I remember my dad had showed
me like the the original UFC
860
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,840
with you know with hoist went in
like, so your dad part of the
861
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,840
reason, a big reason why you got
into MMA.
862
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Probably.
He was always a big boxing fan
863
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,560
growing whenever I was growing
up.
864
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200
So we watched all like, you
know, we kept up with all like
865
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,280
Tyson's career, like I can
remember him biting off Evander
866
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,800
Holyfield.
Here and I I heard the other day
867
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,480
I was in 97 so I was had to only
be like 4 like 4 1/2 years old.
868
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,960
So I don't even know how I
remember that but I can remember
869
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,320
being at his friends house,
Kenny Kimball and they had a
870
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,280
whole watch party.
I remember there was other kids
871
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,920
and shit.
And I remember I like felt sick.
872
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,520
I ended up throwing up cake like
I remember this whole it was
873
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,280
very specific memory you you
wanted to throw up the cake
874
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
because of him biting the ear.
No, no, no, no.
875
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Just because I ate too much
cake.
876
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
I was just a little savage.
I was just like, I'll eat 37
877
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,000
pieces.
It's fine.
878
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
I still don't like birthday cake
to this day because of it.
879
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
That's how I know.
But I remember watching him do
880
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,520
it and everyone was freaking
out.
881
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,240
They were probably all super
wasted looking back, but like, I
882
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,680
remember the whole thing, so one
of your first memories was Mike
883
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Tyson biting off.
Holyfield deer at a watch party
884
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480
on one of those old little box
TV's That was on the floor like
885
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
a big fat black ass.
No, no, not even that.
886
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,920
Like, I'm talking like a like a
little like 45 inch maybe like
887
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,640
on the floor like old school.
It was like a fucking 80s TV and
888
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400
not even like not even like one
of the big screens.
889
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,480
It was like, yeah, with the big
back on the.
890
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Little, yeah, that's what I'm
talking about.
891
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,360
I was talking about like the
like just like the little.
892
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Like, yeah, it's just like a
box.
893
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000
You know, not even like, like a
fat square, right?
894
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,920
It's like a fat square.
Yeah, like a microwave.
895
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Almost literally insane days.
Yep.
896
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Mike Tyson, who are your top
five fighters of all time?
897
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Oh, good question.
John Jones, George Saint Pierre,
898
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,480
Anderson Silva.
See, I came from a certain day,
899
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:46,800
you can tell.
Connor And is this just MMA more
900
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,720
based, But if you got somebody
else out of it, I was.
901
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:53,200
Going to say Prince in the
scene, Prince in the scene, but
902
00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:02,800
for MMA, I'll do feel like you
got to say Randy Couture, you
903
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,680
know we're at the jammies.
He was the first champ champ.
904
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,760
Yeah, it wasn't Champ Champ, but
he won it heavyweight and light
905
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520
heavyweight.
He was the first to ever have
906
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,760
the two divisions.
Yeah, And you got to think
907
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,960
about.
I don't.
908
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,520
I think he was like, was he like
40, something there, insane.
909
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,200
He lost the Brock, first of all,
he was like 220 or 230 and he
910
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,240
lost the fucking Brock at like
46.
911
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,880
So it's like, dude, you go out
like that.
912
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920
It's like, man.
Fuck it.
913
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
I'm gonna go do Expendables.
You know what I'm saying?
914
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,240
Yeah.
Now he's just a movie star.
915
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,640
He comes in the gym with some
weights.
916
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,320
He's looking amazing still.
Yeah, he'll come in at #5 for
917
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,800
sure.
We'll take Randy.
918
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,600
What's the hardest thing about
fighting for a living?
919
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Making a living from fighting
like it's just, I mean if you're
920
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,480
able to continuously get fights
and you got a handful of
921
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,800
sponsors, you got like.
You know, 7-8 sponsors and you
922
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,720
can do really well, but like if
you get put on the shelf for six
923
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:08,160
months then it's it sucks
because you're not doing
924
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,240
anything and you got to you
know, bills don't stop.
925
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:15,240
So you know you got to you got
to make it happen.
926
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:20,480
So being active, super important
if you're on a run, keeping it
927
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,440
going, you know that's super
important but it's hard and
928
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840
especially like you know, guys
get injuries like.
929
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,600
That's why I didn't turn pro
till I was 25.
930
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
I got injured and when I was a
little younger and my amateur
931
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
career, I had to take some time
off.
932
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,280
So you know, injuries will hold
you back.
933
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,160
It's just, you know, it's it's
just a tough journey.
934
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,520
There's so many factors to it.
There's so many ways out, you
935
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,440
know?
But I don't know now that I'm
936
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,000
out here, I feel like you just
seeing the other side, like
937
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
seeing the light at the end of
the tunnel and like seeing guys
938
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,240
on the opposite end of the
spectrum, like all the way at
939
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:57,640
the top of the mountain, it's
like.
940
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,080
It's pretty cool.
You feel like you're almost
941
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
there.
It makes it like, it makes you
942
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,120
feel like you can, like finally
see it.
943
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Like you've just been going up
this big ass mountain.
944
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,720
You can't see it now and you're
just like, fuck, dude, Like,
945
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,640
what are we even doing?
And then you like wake up and
946
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,800
it's like clear skies all of a
sudden you're like, wait a
947
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,480
minute, it doesn't look so
fucking far.
948
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Maybe we can, you know, just a
little bit farther.
949
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,840
I can get up there, you know?
And even just like, especially
950
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,120
like seeing Sean win the title
and like.
951
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Having like my coaches right
there in this corner and having
952
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:34,760
my manager in this corner and
just being like that's my
953
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,800
management and my coaches like
he was not supposed to do this.
954
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Like all he really did was just
work hard, show up every day and
955
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
fucking, you know, give it his
all.
956
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,720
It's like, oh, I think I can do
that, you know, It's just it's
957
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,320
really cool to be a part of MC.
Do you ever get worried being 30
958
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,040
years old now with the age and
not making it to the UFC yet?
959
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,680
No, not at all.
I don't even really think about
960
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,880
it, to be honest with you.
I just because I've just been
961
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
doing my thing.
Like I've just been fighting and
962
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,560
I love fighting and I'm just,
you know, I think that I've been
963
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,240
so close a couple of times that,
you know, it just shows me like.
964
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,320
It doesn't really matter.
These opportunities are going to
965
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,240
come back.
As long as you just stick with
966
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,480
training and trying to pursue
the opportunities, the
967
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,120
opportunities will be there.
But being out here and being on
968
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880
the, you know, kind of scene
behind the curtain, so to speak,
969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080
it just shows me how little it
really means.
970
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,920
Like to be honest, like what
really is important to me is
971
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,280
family and like relationships
with my friends and like.
972
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Just being a good person and
stuff and like enjoying the
973
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,040
journey.
Like at this point it's like if
974
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,720
I just wanted to be miserable
all the time, then I can just
975
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:01,120
fucking go get a nine to five
and like make money.
976
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,160
But like I'm going to enjoy this
to the fullest.
977
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040
I'm going to work as hard as I
possibly can and give every
978
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,360
single thing that I can.
So whenever this is done, no
979
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,440
matter how it turns out, I'm
going to know that I I did
980
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,520
everything that I could and.
So you know that that's kind of
981
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,280
out of my control.
Like the results are like the
982
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,760
MMA is so crazy.
Like you can only do so much.
983
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,160
Like no one really has perfect
records other than Khabib, but
984
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,000
he kind of like built that
record.
985
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,640
You know how well all of, if you
look back at his tabology, his
986
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,320
first like 15 fights, like he's
like 13 and O fighting like one
987
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
and three guys.
You know, and then he got to the
988
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,360
UFC, but like obviously he's
amazing.
989
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,080
He's a goat.
He fucking like probably kicked
990
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,960
my fucking ass.
But like he fucking, you know
991
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,080
it.
It was still a built record and
992
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,360
like you can do that and so you
think he kind of took like a
993
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
boxing route almost.
That's the trend.
994
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680
That's what you should do.
That's what I wish I would have
995
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,080
done.
That's what I was trying to do.
996
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,080
But I got too caught up in like
the oh, I'm going to fast track
997
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,640
this shit.
I'm going to beat this fucking
998
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
seven and O guy at three and O.
On Co main event in this guy's
999
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,200
backyard on LFA and Co main
event and I'll fucking jump the
1000
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,960
line and I'll be right there in
contenders and then it sets you
1001
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
back three fights and then I go
and get a win.
1002
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,600
And then the same thing COVID
happened and I had a six month
1003
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,840
old that I'm trying to provide
for and now it's four and one.
1004
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,880
He's four and O and they're
like, hey, can you fly down to
1005
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,320
Miami and fight in three days
And I'm like, well, if I win and
1006
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,680
we're probably going to
contenders one of us, so
1007
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,960
especially at that time, right.
And.
1008
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,480
That's exactly what happened.
He bought Cody Anglin on
1009
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Contender Series right after
that short notice fight or.
1010
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,720
Yeah, he got short notice
against Cody England right after
1011
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:49,720
that.
That's exactly what I was
1012
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,080
thinking would happen for them
to fight.
1013
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,560
Whoever would want would get a
short notice fight.
1014
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,680
And that's exactly what
happened.
1015
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,000
So And I knew that was what was
at stake.
1016
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,240
And so that's why I took the
fight.
1017
00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:59,280
I knew it was going to be a
tough fight.
1018
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,640
I knew he had a lot of scale.
I knew it was dangerous.
1019
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,160
And at the time he was
undefeated.
1020
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160
He had some really crazy
highlight reels, but like.
1021
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360
I just believe him.
So, you know, you've been
1022
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,400
literally that.
Close oh, the paper thin.
1023
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,320
Paper thin.
But it's I don't tripping crazy
1024
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,440
game.
It's a crazy game.
1025
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,920
And that's why I'm saying I
don't trip out on it because
1026
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,440
it's like there's guys in the
gym that like, like I'll fucking
1027
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,720
beat up on people and they're
fucking killing it right now.
1028
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,440
But it's like, I'm not going to
take that personal and be like,
1029
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,920
oh, I should be that.
They should be like, no, we're
1030
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,560
all on our own journey and
fucking.
1031
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,400
I just need to get some wins
together and get on my streak
1032
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,480
and then I'll be.
You know, with some major
1033
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,160
promotion and then it's time for
me to put my work in and and win
1034
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
my fights because that's, you
know, that's my shit.
1035
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,000
It's nothing about anyone else.
Like, you know, I I want to see
1036
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,440
just all my people really do
well, more than anything.
1037
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,200
What do you got to say to
anybody out there?
1038
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:58,120
You fight this Saturday again,
November 4th, Shamrock FC-350
1039
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,800
Saturday.
How does the fight go again?
1040
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,200
What do you got to say to
everybody looking in?
1041
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Yeah, I say don't blink.
I say definitely don't blink
1042
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,680
because like I said, I'm going
to try to drag the fight out.
1043
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,160
I'm going to try to, you know,
be technical and do all the, you
1044
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,800
know, the the good, good, smart
shit that we've been working on.
1045
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,760
But I'm pretty fast and I Zing
people out and I I try to, you
1046
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
know, pull shots and stuff.
You know, whenever we're
1047
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,040
training and it's, you know, but
things are coming together and I
1048
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,160
think that I could see myself
just touching him right on the
1049
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,280
button pretty early and him
going night, night looking to
1050
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,440
possibly be a quick night.
Quick night, quick night.
1051
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,680
It could be a quick night, but
I'm not.
1052
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,120
I'm not going to force it though
either.
1053
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,760
If.
If not, then you're just going
1054
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,480
to watch a fucking striking
display.
1055
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,840
You're going to see some
beautiful work.
1056
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,800
Just slapping.
Slapping the calves, slapping
1057
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,880
the teeth, Bugging hide kids.
Maybe hit him with a spin kick.
1058
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Who knows?
Maybe I'll fucking Sadabu see
1059
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,280
him.
Maybe.
1060
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Maybe I'll just jab him for 15
minutes straight.
1061
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Maybe maybe I'll take him down.
Who knows?
1062
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Who knows?
I just, I think I'm on another
1063
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,920
level, so I'm just going to have
fun with it, do my thing and.
1064
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,640
But MMA is a funny sport and
those little gloves are so
1065
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,600
unforgiving, so I think that.
He catches A shin or glove or,
1066
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,800
you know, those four ouncers,
and I think that it's just going
1067
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,640
to be over before I let you go,
who currently in the UFC right
1068
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:45,480
now do you see kind of as your
mirror somebody just like you,
1069
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,120
somebody the UFC could see, All
right, This guy's kind of like
1070
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,080
this guy.
We should definitely bring him
1071
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,120
in.
Well, I definitely know Train
1072
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,960
with Julianna Rosa.
It feels like I'm fucking
1073
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,480
sparring in a mirror.
We're both moving and long and,
1074
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,880
you know, kicking each other and
doing all types of crazy shit.
1075
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,360
So yeah, I would say like a
Julie and a Rosa.
1076
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
The length and the size gives
off like a Dan hooker vibes
1077
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,160
almost even 2.
Yeah, I mean I'm getting kind of
1078
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,160
a little more more towed down.
I would say like maybe like
1079
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,960
hooker, sorta.
I'm a little more like boxing
1080
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,120
heavy.
So I it's you can't really say
1081
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,360
like Sean O'Malley because he's
like the champ and he's fucking
1082
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,920
sick.
But like, that's your style
1083
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,680
though.
But I kind of like that style a
1084
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,400
little bit.
I like the movement style.
1085
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,040
I like, I like, like how
Wonderboy stays, stays light on
1086
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,560
his feet and we'll like blitz
and and like and move out and
1087
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,920
throw stuff.
And I try to just emulate a
1088
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,240
little bit of everybody,
honestly.
1089
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,320
You know, I try to just pick up
a little bit of everything from
1090
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,520
everyone and and just do cool
shit.
1091
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,560
I'm excited.
Thank you.
1092
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,040
You got me sold.
Is it pay-per-view?
1093
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,360
How do people watch the fight if
they're not going to actually be
1094
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,080
in Missouri?
Thank you, brother.
1095
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Yeah.
Pay-per-view.
1096
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,120
It's going to be on Fight
TVFITETV.
1097
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,760
That's the app.
I think it's 1599, so if you're
1098
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,320
not going to be in Saint Louis,
make sure that you make sure you
1099
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,000
get on Fight, download the Fight
TV app and get on there and
1100
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,960
watch me tear this guy apart.
If you are going to be in Saint
1101
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,760
Louis, hit my IG and make sure
that you get tickets from me
1102
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,040
directly.
Just message me and we'll get
1103
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,600
you squared away.
Perfect.
1104
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,600
Josh Augustine, Nick Malpia,
Shamrock FC-350, Saturday,
1105
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,880
November. 4th Justin thank you
for having me.
1106
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Appreciate your brother.
Thank you.
1107
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Still French up to a 56 Augie,
Josh Augustine.
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See you guys next time.
