Schedule built for a special season? | 2026-27 conference schedule release + Building a PK era team with $15

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jacob Lane alongside Alan Thomas Ryan Keeling is sorting through boxes and I don't
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to get into some news around the Louisville basketball schedule, as well as some roster building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's all season here for basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're dragging to exhibition basketball next month, which we'll get into the schedule here in a minute, Allen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we've got to make the dog days of summer in the off season work and so tonight we're going to do we're going to put on our GM hats if you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have our NIL money if you will Alan and we're going to build our rosters using the PK era players that we've seen so far and we'll see this upcoming season to the first three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So all of that out and let's talk about global basketball schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got the full schedule released today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We knew the non-con schedule for Louisville which is just loaded with absolute
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[SPEAKER_02]: incredible basketball matchups.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know of Texas Tech, potentially Oregon or St. John's, you know, Texas in the ICC ACC Challenge, neutral site games with Michigan and Baylor as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, as this
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[SPEAKER_02]: this schedule is interesting to me for a number of reasons and I'm sure as a guy I saw you earlier kind of already put now your projections will dive into that here in a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I look at this roster and immediately my mind goes to a couple of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, where is Duke?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first thing I typically want to see on the on the conference schedule, where is Duke and on the home or all day on the road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of the times I don't know ahead of time who the the opponents will play twice are like I don't I follow the schedule but not to that degree you know I think a lot of the times the ACC is that they release kind of those pods or you have an idea if you're going to have home and home with maybe not I don't know but to see where Duke is to see this year where Miami and Virginia are and then to see who those home and homes are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who you play twice and to see some of the schedule and to see no double doop no double Virginia no double Miami on that really stood out to me in a year where I think little will make some noise a schedule that has very stackable wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What were your thoughts just overall with the slate we'll get into specifics in a moment but just what you look at first and then kind of what you notice with the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much the exact same thing you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking for honestly Duke and UNC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just where my brain is wired to and Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that's the big three like all yeah, and it continues to be even with the Odom taken over and noticing that noticing that Duke was alone home game in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You and see a home in a way game Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just in a way game, which I'll kind of tap into that in a second when if I if we want to talk about projections stuff like that, but other than that, like I was at work when it came out like a lot of us were right, so I kind of glazed over it and I'm kind of like, okay, you've got Georgia tech there, you know, like some some of the like the worries some games that in the past and this isn't going to be the same team more situation, I have a lot of faith in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: defensive front, you know, defensive mentality in the front this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I think even the projection that I made, also, again, we'll talk about that in a second is a little conservative beyond us with you because I was like, I was like, we're gonna, I think there's a couple of things that I'm like, yeah, not getting over that hump, that's just a historical thing, not happening in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other thing is another historical thing and, you know, there's a lot
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, to your point, you get the home in a way with UNC and SMU.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a very winnable set of home in home games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want me to be honest with you, not to discount either team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mike Malone is the most interesting story line as a coach this season in the ACC coming from being an NBA champion, the developer of Nikola Yokech, like to say those words out loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: talking about him being the other coach against Louisville is just saying to me and he has a team that is full of a lot of talent but we really don't know what it's going to be like how they'll develop how some of these pieces will take steps in house with the international flare will
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[SPEAKER_02]: with SMU, they lost a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They also brought in a ton of really interesting intriguing transfers, but I still think the level, you know, is better than both of those teams at home and on the road, despite the home advantage that I think UNC has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, that can change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know again, but nothing's been played yet, so it's all strictly on paper at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to be out in the most notable game outside of Duke that that's just always a game though I want to see where it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do like that it falls late in the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's February 24th the third to last game of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's very interesting to get a full conference slate and really know who you are and head into the ACC tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: likely with potentially a pending rematch coming just days or weeks later if things play out the way that we think they could for Louisville getting to the ACC championship again, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the most notable game to me is the at Virginia game not but not only because I think Virginia is going to be really good this year, Alan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is a Monday night game level, you know, just the turnaround from Saturday to Monday games always is just very interesting to see how a team will handle that and that is in a stretch of games where Louisville goes at UNC SMU at Virginia at Florida State Duke at NC State Clemson to finish the year that's a very important stretch for Louisville basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that will really help us really understand is this a title contender or is this just a team that can maybe get in the tournament when a gamer to and then just that's kind of it, you know, they'll fizzle out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are your thoughts on that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I mean, generally speaking, I didn't have a single game that stood out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm like an eight-year-old watching college basketball when I read these schedules that come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first thing that, I mean, I looked at was the same thing you brought up as a dude game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like at home and starting to think like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where could we be like this is when you start to talk about seeding and this is when so when do comes to town that's one of those like My brain starts to go like are we gonna be in a conversation for a for a one or a two like or a three or is this gonna be a team that I'm like also We talk about I talk about PTSD that I have I'm like is this gonna be one of those things where we've had a rough you know January or something like that
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we really need this, or February either way, and we really need this, maybe we haven't done well in non-con.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we thought we would have like all the worries and excitement together, mixed together with just that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that dude games huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that that was the one that I kind of was like, okay, I'm probably going to be looking up tickets for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you know, spacing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about going to the Michigan game right into Troy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good two months to save up for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're me, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, just just me and in my bank account, like those are two things that I'm like, okay, I think I could do that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The get-in's going to be kind of high, but I think I could do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of interesting games this season that little fans will either want to travel to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, the home games, I expect to be absolutely nuts this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On the 24th being one of them, Louisville and Michigan and Detroit, also the random Baylor game in Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just very interesting how it all shakes out, but I think, so let's talk about projections for a second and again, this is very early where sitting here on September 9th, there's not a game that's going to be played until that counts until November 2nd right now we're certainly going to get a game that feels like it counts against Kansas on the road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a secret scrimmage?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, you know, there's been some some, you know, murmurings on on the webs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just because you see it on the internet, that definitely means it's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, so I definitely would pencil that in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, but there's been some murmurings we'll see, you know, I would follow 90s if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, play it all together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: projections, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I saw you say that you thought that just off the rip, Louisville would go 15 and 3 in the ACC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that correct?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what I saw earlier from you, Alan Thomas?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm obviously just good, like knee jerk, good reaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think dukes a loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that team is going to be insane this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's going to be
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[SPEAKER_01]: over a decade there I say you know what I mean and we're going to be competing with probably arguably the best team in the country for the number one of the ACC and Pat Kelsey had that same battle coming in so that's kind of like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not really, I said a historical thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's not a historical thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a, I'm not going to sit here and be, so I'm going to be Matt McGabac on this one and tell you, Louisville's probably going to look right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going against Louisville on this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just like Sam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though I know that I see on paper with our roster, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other one is, I just think, Odam is a great ball coach man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's a good game prepare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, even though last year, Louisville was missing, I think, two players last year, I think we're missing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My kill brown and another player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember who it was another guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, but I think we got scheme to death and I think to do that
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[SPEAKER_01]: defensively against Pat Kelsey's impressive but the way he was able to move the ball around our weaknesses was like I mean it was like a clinic at one point I just sat back and watched for Virginia just take it to us and I'm like this is impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um you go you go to jump all Jones arena I'm not sure we've ever won there if we have it's been like once or something like that and it might have been a long time so I'm gonna go ahead historically I'm gonna say that's a loss
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be a dumb loss, not saying that's an upset, but it'll just be a stupid loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always a dumb loss in the season where you're like, of course, well, you wanted that one back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just like, everything we did was like, you know, we planned poorly or something like that, whether that's on the road in Chapel Hill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like that wouldn't be a dumb loss, but like say you're up, Tanner or something like that, and say Seth Trimble has 5,000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at UNC, right, if he's playing, like it would be something stupid, some stupid storyline, I think, you know, you go on the road to some of these other places, you know, know anything specifically in front of me, but like that Georgia Tech, like that's been a bug, like just something dumb, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's there's always gained it seems that there's games that you win that maybe you didn't expect to win and then there's the games that you drop that maybe you shouldn't and I think that teams like Georgia tech are and for the state are certainly better than what they've been over the past couple of years, you know, close sense is going to be really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they lost a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: California is another team that's got a lot of interesting pieces that could be sneaky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, there's there's certainly games around the corner every night in the ACC and see states and other one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they got the leading shot block on the nation on their team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a ton of other really talented pieces including a guy in Paul McNeill that I think might be one of the more underrated players in the conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that there there are certainly games in the schedule that could sneak up on the level, but there's also games that if they lose that you're going to look at your buddy or your podcast, co-host, or whatever, and you're going to just say, or you're going to talk to the wall and think Pat Kelsey's there, like, what the f, why did you drop the Syracuse game, or, you know, the Boston College game, not, you know, whatever it is, there's always that opportunity,
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[SPEAKER_02]: 15 and three you know, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a very very interesting projection because when I went through and I projected this schedule in my end, I also finished 15 and three and I thought with myself, to myself, all right, where is the game that I did not account for here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, where is the loss in here that feels like two few of losses for me just on pay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like there's probably something I'm missing and I looked up and down and
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think there's a couple of games that are interesting to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think at FSU is a really interesting game because if you lose to, if you go on the road and you lose to Virginia and then you have nine days later Duke with, you know, a few days off, but then have it to travel to Florida State and what can be in tough environment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Luke Locke is a very improved, a really good basketball coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and they're gonna be a young but athletic and hungry team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that game is scary in some regards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that you know, going to Syracuse against Sherry McNamara, going down the road to SMU could be games that you drop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I ended up settling on UNC as that fourth loss in this conference schedule with Virginia Duke in Miami because I think Miami, especially if they get Malekrono backman, I think that they are going to be insanely good this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's where I'm at, but otherwise, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's a combination of the ACC is going to be better holistically, but maybe a little bit worse in terms of the top, you know, how many teams are really able to play in the tournament, but I mean, I think, you know, the California is the SMUs, the Georgia tax, the, you know, the Florida state, since he states these games are going to be challenging.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if Louisville doesn't come ready to play, they can drop any of them and finish the schedule with 8 conference losses or 5 conference losses or, you know, whatever it is, but I think that the pieces are there for Pat to not only get better as the season goes on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but be able to really play a style of play in the ACC where you can hang with Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can hang with NC State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can hang with these more, you know, inside to focus teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can still play with, you know, be aggressive with, you know, some of the smaller teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just a lot of flexibility within the Global's roster to where I think they're going to get better and be able to flex and bend as they play some of these teams that present challenges, but aren't maybe all around great teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, again, I keep bringing this up and, you know, with the defensive, the different look, we're going to get defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been outspoken, John Intercheck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been outspoken about how he takes police from Iowa State and Houston.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So TJ Alxelberger and Southern Samson, Calvin Samson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, as soon as you hear him say that, I'm like, I have to go watch Iowa State Games to see what he's talking about with defending with the chest and pelvis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go see what he means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, they just, I mean, it's like easy possessions turn into very bumping grind,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This wasn't like you know like you think you have a like he'll give you a lane and then just take it away right when you're comfortable like that's that's kind of the name of the game It's like there's a lot of teams that thrive on that that I'm worried about and you know floor state doesn't really good job you mentioned Luke laughs They do really good job of getting you know getting into the lane and like my ambe does the same thing they really get in the lane they will produce their way and so like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's also one of those things where like you could end up like embarrassing a couple of these themes, you know, on the scoreboard, you know, on their side of the scoreboard, not saying we score 100, they score 50, but you know, you can kind of take really high octane offenses out of their rhythm this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that, you know, for teams across the league, whether it's in the state, whether it's Clemson, whether it's Syracuse, UNCSU, some of these teams are going to try to get up and down and score a lot of points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that Louisville can play at that style, you know, depending on how good of a shooting team they are, but I think more likely is that they can impose their style of defense and physicality and aggressiveness on some of these teams that just
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[SPEAKER_02]: for a full 40 minutes and I think that that's where there are just where teams down as the year goes on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Overall, we have plenty of time to talk about this and throughout the offseason, as opposed to our beginning of exhibition season, but looking at the non-con, I think conservatively three or four losses, I tend to lean towards three aggressively, two losses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just on paper, I think Louis was going to lose that Texas Tech match up, especially now that Texas Tech is brought in Darian Williams back on the foot, like that's just not fair with a team that was already just insanely talented.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are aggressive, they are athletic, they can get up and down, they also can play defense, they can shoot, I mean, they can do everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I take that to be an L for from my perspective at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think St. John's is going to take care of Oregon and then Louisville ends up with Oregon, which I think Louisville would win that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then depending upon who you get in the other matchup, you know, it's hard to say winter loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just tend to think that if Louis was playing in a third place game, a fourth place game, that they're going to be, they're going to still play competitively and be likely the better team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm maybe I'm been a little bit of an naive fan in that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I go back and forth on Michigan in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Louis was going to drop one of those two games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who it's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I picked Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to not see Louis will lose a road game when when I travel to to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm over to in the last two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know over three here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vincent LaCoco and I were just talking about this in Nashville.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we go one more road trip and level loses our road trip days might be over, but I think Louisville will likely drop the game into Troy and then I again naive of me, Allen, but I think Louisville beats Kentucky even on the road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think this is going to beat Kentucky this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That really, really good game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I take the edge for Louisville and so that's where I walk away with only two non-conference losses for Louisville.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's pretty impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, and, and technically, you're, oh, in one on the road and football and Owen won neutral and football technically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever been to a road game or neutral game in basketball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have, but it's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think I didn't go to Cincinnati last year because I was in Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe, you know, the mojo didn't travel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You all took the good luck to Cincinnati when you went for that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Technically, that was a, that was a neutral technically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we're there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That shit was a home game for us man as soon as as soon as um we got out of our swamp and it's like we went on that first little run I think like to close the half we're down like 11 in the first half to close it I started to look around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, I'm on the most strange.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great Like I thought because you couldn't tell everybody was black and red so you couldn't tell it had jackets So it's like you I'm like, oh, you right here hard five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I tend to lean the same way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my split was going to be, I'm like, you're not sweeping both these Texas schools.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't care, like, what my mind wants to think, like, I just feel like it's either going to be, you know, a home loss, you know, to Texas and the SEC chat, that's another thing is like, we can't get over that hump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, in the big picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you lose one of those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure about Michigan yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure, like Dusty May is a really good coach, okay, and like it's not, you know, to say that money doesn't talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got, you know, the very similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got guys coming back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got similar guys on there now and like you've got a, you know, a strell of Tennessee is automatic in the paint, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like that's going to be a challenge for, you know, for floors and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Break the news to use the Dusty May is the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like the way you're talking about, okay, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's on me, that's on me, my bad, my bad coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you're, everybody knows I talk in circles sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I didn't draw my, I didn't draw my boy's name yet, but that, that was kind of like the reason why I was leaning towards like, I feel like I like the way we stack up against Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me keep it simple, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of talking in circles and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Boughton is a good coach like he was on a long list for us after after Kenny Payne like we liked him but not really proven right and I just kind of think it's one of those situations where it's going to fizzle you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that, you know, we ain't duck and smoke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Michigan's roster is interesting, like you said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So JP Astrala was was really good for Tennessee and it would gave us a lot of issues as a big man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They also had a stop at the end from Cincinnati to Sanfuk II big man that I really wanted so badly when we played them last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're going to have, you know, similar pieces to replicate what they did in the championship season, but they lost their big prize possession and Brandon McCoy, the five star guard who toured his ACL on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: right over C so but still I mean they bring in five other freshmen that are going to be impact players four of them you know one of them is a seven foot three center from Spain but the rest of them are all three and four five star guards are four star guards that are going to you know make big pieces big impacts as freshmen and and they have a lot of returning pieces as well so I think it's just interesting to see you know what level we're doing that on con you know they're certainly going to drop
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're not going to go into feed it, but I think, you know, conservatively seven eight losses is very realistic for global this year to get aggressively five or six is, you know, potentially also on the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, you can, that's how you like seven or eight with this schedule, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, I mean, that's probably, that's probably a, that's probably a two three seed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a two every three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, two every three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you win the the way we've projected, you know, here on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we could be way aggressive on this, but that could potentially mean no matter what happens in the ACC championship or ACC tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have the schedule that you have and you're the two seed to do can do so be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's very good likelihood with that that that final record that you could also be at number one seed in the NCAA tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if that's the case, it's a special season for Louisville, you know, if not, it's because something along the way, whether it's injuries, style of play, whatever the case is has gone wrong because the schedule is essentially the bottom line shakes out for Louisville favorably if there's good as we think they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for me, that's a win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's, you know, at least to start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, on paper, that's not how games are played, but you've got a, if you're patent staff, you've got to be looking at this and say, guys, we can have a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think at the end of the day, like, a lot of people, just, I didn't really comment or anything like that, but a lot of people were kind of puffing the chest out about the, the conference schedule that came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, I had to go, I didn't really see it in an official, like, the whole schedule together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to go look, like, right away, I had to go look at the John Ralphstein tweet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tweet about the schedule, the non-conference schedule, and I had a couple that in with the conference schedule that we have that came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's like, to see all of it and how the dates line up, like there's a non-conference stretch where you have the players there, a Michigan, Kentucky, there's another one in there, like, you couldn't so like, and I think Texas is in that stretch too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's interesting how Pat does this every year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he has breathers within the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if you go and look, you'll see that the conference schedule's kind of like that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though even though we have more I think of what more away games in the conference than we do home games I'm not sure about that but I'm pretty sure he still has it like he has it spread out to where it's like not that like Oh, here's the shitty teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the good teams, but it kind of like he it gives you like a reprieve everyone's well
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[SPEAKER_02]: it'll be an interesting certainly the way it shakes out will be really interesting because of you know you don't really know who a lot of these teams are you're gonna get you and see early in the schedule and then you're gonna get them again later in the year you won't see my amy until you know late January
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[SPEAKER_02]: you'll have a better idea of whether they're going to be a, you know, you know, a conference championship contender and ACC or, you know, two, three seats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get a better idea of what the sketch, the schedule looks like and what the teams look like as the year goes on, which is, you know, how you start to stack and really build out that resume.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's good quad one wins that you would assume at least will be quad one games all throughout the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're never going to get to a point unless something again goes wrong with some of these teams to where you lose that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, we will go into the next part of the show here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Offseason content is what makes the world go round and the internet, the special place that it is, and tonight we're going to join in on the fun here on starting 502 podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen the trend through social media over the years where you get $15 to build a roster of five players, starting five, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: from five tiers of players and tonight what we're going to do is we're going to look at exclusively players that are on levels rosters through the Pat Kelsey era so the first three years two years of played basketball and one year of unplayed basketball so the way we're going to do this Allen is we're going to have to make some assumptions you're going to have to do some
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I know about these players and here's how good they were so I'm going to do this and then also here's how good I think these players can be so I'm going to do this so on the screen right now you guys see the full tears five dollars four dollars three dollars two dollars and one dollar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Allen and I are going to go line by line here and we're going to build out our teams and at the end we're going to compare and see where we shake out and then ultimately give you the chance as the audience to put your rosters up against ours and let us know what what you can build or tell us why we got it wrong and how stupid these tears are and why every player is mispriced and spelled wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get into it now Alan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got you've got your roster over there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got mine again for the folks following on on on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can see the breakdown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll throw that up on the screen every few minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for those listening to audio, just follow along here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll we'll obviously tweet this stuff out and you can see the graphics and get in on the fun as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: you can follow along kind of as we build this and we'll try to without saying every single detail we'll try to make sure you understand where the players fall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Alan, we've got our $5 line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is our star players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't have the sheer number of players to do five on each row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we've just got four and as we get down into the bottom tier, we're certainly going to thin out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be a challenge for both of us to build
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[SPEAKER_02]: guard, guard, guard, guard, forward, forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, you want to build your roster all the way up to the center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So $5, Alan, we're going to start on this line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got your stars to build around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got Ryan Conwell, Michael Brown, Junior, Chuck E. Hepburn, Florida, but don't go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my question to you is is there anybody that you're going all in on the $5 line to build your team room?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will tell you that there are two people that I'm like, I could start a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I was going to start a team, I would start them with this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they're totally separate directions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hear?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, so, and here comes the collective scoff from our viewers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You already know what I'm gonna say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the five dollar guys is, to me is Mike Hillbrown Jr. Because I think this, I think, just look at this board, you can get,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a slasher or two for relatively cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get some pretty good shooters for relatively cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of guys that can compliment him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Couple, you know, some rebounders for really cheap, some tough guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've watched my kill brown play and how many games not many, I think 19, I don't remember what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he played with, there were some guys that he played with better work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of guys anyway that are pretty low on this list that he made better when he was around them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or I'm going to go the P.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: route and my first guy is going to be my anchor, Florida, but do and go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the Andrew check on you would have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not surprised here in the slightest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not surprised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that gives you your first big acquisition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got $10 left, but take me to the thinking on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Walk me through the Florida, but don't get because you said that's who you're going to build around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So tell me why you're going to spend the money on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, you know, it's kind of the same like I can get, you know, I'm looking down the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can get some some good ball handling for pretty cheap on this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what these are fun to is because
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[SPEAKER_01]: and we sent this to Ryan and he was like immediately he said something he's like this is glaring but I like I like the I have my own thoughts too but I like just leaving it and letting the universe take care of it because of course that's that's what makes it fun in situations that I'm explaining I might not have taken flurry
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the $5 had other guys not been a little bit cheaper in the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That that that can compliment him and, you know, like, just, I don't know, it's just just confident guys for cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just think that confident in different ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So actually, I think it makes more sense for us because we'll start with our center position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll, instead of going line by line from the dollar amount, let's go by our positions because I like to like to take the starting position, the similar thought that you did here in terms of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: do I want star power and do I want to take a guy like Michael or Chuck E even to anchor my team as the guard do I need flooring is the center and for me as I started to look around I wanted to make sure that I had five guys that I could trust on the floor that I didn't feel like I had a weak spot now maybe they're not all gonna be great positional fits they're all maybe hypothetically they're not all gonna play great together but I'm gonna have everything I need on
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[SPEAKER_02]: for me, it was too costly to go for flooring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I needed to find value.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a challenge here because again, we haven't seen every one of these players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going off of potential here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if this player is as good as we all think he can be, the ceiling on my team is infinitely higher because I only spent $2 on my center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's Obena, Kezi Jr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you open it, if that's a two dollar pick, which maybe the argument here is why the hell is he not three dollars and Sinanda Furus to we're going off of a little bit of Obena has to play jet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's reclassifying Sinanda got a year under his belt was one of the top 25 transfers in the country whether you agree or not, but I think Obena Keesie can provide me the anchor while also providing me an higher upside of offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: at a lower price value with the exception or with the thought that he could potentially may not live up to that potential and I'm not going to have a center that can hang with the big teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I like to think that that's not the case in Obena would be a value pick that can still anchor my defense at 7 foot 2 and has a lot to grow into as only 18 year old freshman playing a great up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: next I'm going to jump down to my four spot and again I'm looking for the utility knife the guy that I can draw style and he's undersized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's certainly going to give up some matchup problems for me in some instances but I can count on him to guard one through four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can do it all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can shoot the body bound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give me Javan Hadley at my $4.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean I think that's you know you could make the argument Javan Hadley is a $5 player in terms of just being in all around utility knife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll do the dirty work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll make sure that he's rough and guys up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, you know, just trust in no benefit of the shop locker there, but he can hold his own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those two at six foot six and seven foot two are going to be a dynamic pair that have a lot of different offerings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I love that pig.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I knew I was going to do this with you, where I'm like, I'm really jealous of that pig.
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[SPEAKER_01]: paired with the other way with Obena in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, if we're doing, we're doing forward next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we're doing forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so, all right, my four, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that, this is a guy that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe it's $2 on here and actually speaking of the secret game against Ohio State that if it's true, you'll want to know this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll want to know this little tidbit of Arrow for Garus had his season high against Ohio State last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a win the I had 20 points and
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[SPEAKER_01]: for rebounds and the other one in the other game that they lost he had eight points and six rebounds anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll borrow full garrison two dollars down there and it's funny because like it's it's yeah it's good value and it's ban ban you know defensive guys yes you can trust out barrel two but you know three and D guy of course um
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[SPEAKER_01]: to two students of John Intercheck take a shot right so that's that's seven dollars for me out the gate you have you have spent six dollars right I'm just going to draft Louisville starting five and 27 I'm pretty sure at this point that is where we're headed towards
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right, so we've got our, we've got our five and our four jumping down to the three line at your small forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be a third guard, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But who do you have a slot in it at that three spot?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a, I actually have, I mean, this is kind of outside the box, if I'm honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I felt like I felt like I needed this because I wanted to, I wanted shooting on this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll viral provides that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be one of the people scoff at because he had to guard the forward a lot and got exposed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to take with my $3 in the the third guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The three with $3 since Isaac McNeely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think you just has, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: given the right circumstance, given the right people around him, not saying he had the wrong people, but a different mindset, if you will, full-gayers being, you know, stretching everything out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So full-gayers may be pulling some of the help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: out with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Isaac for $3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that for me is $10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I only have $3 left to fill up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To fill your two guards, that's going to certainly be interesting to see who you go with there because there's not a guard on the $1 line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, technically, technically there is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just not a point guard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so for me on the three line, I went again with value and this is going to be one where I think our audience is going to say how the heck is this guy a $2 like how did you come to this as a multi your trend, you know, multi your college basketball player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been good at most stops when he certainly has struggled in certain places, but whether it was at Dayton or at Mount St. Mary's when he was in the the, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always get confused between Mount St. Mary's in the Mac, but I think that's where it was, Mount St. Mary's, but when he was there as a freshman and then ultimately went to Georgia and struggled at Georgia, to shame on Montgomery is a great value player that I think this year is going to potentially prove to be like a
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[SPEAKER_02]: potentially show to be like an NBA role player type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily says going to be drafted or he's going to be a star, but he is going to be somebody that does what he does so good that teams want that skill as a role player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that the three next to Hadley and Ocezi is my two anchors to shame on summary gives me athleticism.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He gives me shooting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can guard the best player on the opposing team, which allows me to take my next pick, which we'll get into here in a minute, kind of a spoiler alert, maybe not a great defensive player, but he allows me to be more flexible with the guards that I put around them because he is such a good player that he can guard your best player if he's on one, at two or a three, and then that gives me the flexibility with the rest of my lineup to really do some things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got three dollars to spin and so wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, hang on so we're doing You might have to survive here because of my yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing a five, a four, one, five, one, four, one, three, one, two, one, one, right, that we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, I mean, look, if you want to run a forward as your point guard, man, it is your roster to build as your 15 dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm not going to stop you from putting some onto fruit at your point guard or, you know, that's what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a prolific.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you, he's not on a priori.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm now realizing I left Ali Khalifa off of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's what he was saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the original one, which is my advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I should have probably eliminated Gabe Dines, no offense to Gabe here, but as on this year's team probably shouldn't be there overall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, to shame on gummarie's my three, I've spent eight dollars, so I have got some money to play with here as we go into my final two picks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll go next.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At my two spot, I am going to get a little bit aggressive with my spending here, and I am going to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not at the top level though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go right below it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get my shooter my guy that is going to space the floor and he's going to allow the rest of my roster to cook and that is rain Smith.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have paid $5 for rain Smith honestly for this lineup to put in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have probably sacrificed my other guards bought, but I have spent at my $12 now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got two guys that I can trust really three guys that I can trust can shoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got three guys that I know can play damn good defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two guys that are you know arguably locked down defenders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then I've got a guy in rain who I'm going to have to hide defensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have to put him on teams, you know, just kind of stash him on somebody who's maybe not as big of an offensive threat, but rain is going to have the chance to give me 20 to 30 every night and really put the ball in the hoop from outside and force defenses to cover a completely different way, which is going to allow the Shane people to get driving lanes to Von Haddley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw when he got one on one matchups like that Clemson game and he dropped 32.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, if you leave you on one on one and the right match up, he can absolutely terrorize a defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel pretty good about where I'm at with my 12 dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got three left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, if you need to make a revision here because I screwed your math up by giving you the wrong graphic to start, that's on me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you need to go back and you know, trade a dollar and but you've got you've got some money to spend who is your two guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So while you were talking a little bit, I was kind of like, no, I think I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I admittedly was never good at math, unless it was like a rule of score, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I'm serious like, wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have,
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[SPEAKER_01]: $2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, I think I've got five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got Florida but Dunga $5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can all do it together, kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: $5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isaac McNally, three more, which is eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've went and got a viral for garris for $2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is ten.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got five dollars left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Congrats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Miles, you know, I took no notes doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I was really panicking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to struck case in prior out here at the point car like I was like Oh, this is going to be like I'm going to be laughing stock like it'd be me and McGat that getting tomatoes thrown each other tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So but yeah, I'll um so anyway, I've got five dollars to play with
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just we're going to play right into Jacob's hand on this one sort of because I'm going to go with with my point guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with God who's on the $4 line and he's on this year's roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to start a point guard for our roster and Jackson's shell stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, a pretty funny, not exactly the first four that you would think when you're talking about this year's team, but definitely three of our four starters probably in my lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got $1 to play with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's your turn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a dollar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have $3.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have three you have one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you get the final, you get the final roster pick here with your one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, you wait did you spend, you spent $3 there, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or did you spend $4 on Jackson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So $1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so basically we're going to like, I see, you know, Isaac McGneely is going to float on my team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to play the two play the three right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make I'm going to force William and John to play this for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or jump up and play the two, but boy on jong at one dollar is a steal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you what man, I've got shooters all over the place that Florie can rebound for at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take my chance to share for $50.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so your final five is Jackson Sheldead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Isaac McNeely, boy-on-Jing, Alvaro Furgaris, and Florida, but don't go, so you have four people for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just worked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to I'm going to finish this off here with a bang.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got three bucks left and there's no better fit to finalize my roster than Adrian Woolly and and honestly he probably is a steal at three dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could make the argument that he should be at four dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he didn't shellstead or should switch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought about as I was building my the the final two guards, but it's about pairing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Terence Edwards with like a.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's playing, you know, alongside of Ryan Conwell and Michael Brown Jr., and he's trying to kind of find where his rhythm is, ultimately, he ends up stepping into a role with Michael being out to that, you know, kind of forces him to play outside of his comfort zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were games that were great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You saw the Miami Game Winner brilliant, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were games that were not great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was the North Carolina Game He really struggled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was one where he shot 11% from the field in the NACC play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but i think take that take what he's going to be this year uh... ultimately little did try to go out and get more guys to kind of compliment around him uh... but ultimately they ended up you know uh... being able to to realize are being able to put willy in a place to take a prominent step forward so that's where i'll go on this one is a drain willy
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[SPEAKER_02]: to finalize my roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some guys left off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned how to leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Should have probably had him in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, Seth Trimble probably deserved to be in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not even with those two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to take out Carter Knox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to take out get some prior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you value those guys financially?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had to make some tough choices because there are also a lot of players for Louisville that have not played through the years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The London Johnson, the Mochamara, the Babakar Trail, or as we didn't
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know that there's, you know, some other pieces that I haven't mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of guys that you could sub in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to, we want you to tell us who we missed, how wrong I am for this and where we got it wrong, where we got it right, but we'll share all this out on social media with love for you all to get involved and leave comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know what you think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Alan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All that to say, that's going to wrap us up here on starting 502 podcast as we continue on into the offseason only a few more weeks left before we actually get into previewing Kansas and Mercyhurst, maybe a secret technology, if you will, in October, but between now and then we'll continue to update the things as news drops and as we hear more and learn more about the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I assume we're going to get some more content from the Cardinal Committee videos over the
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of that they were out of the game this weekend, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were a section old from us and they came down our row and all that went nuts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just absolutely For them So you know, yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fans are excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did a card chant almost immediately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like literally got down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They realized not only did they do that, but they realized they were in the wrong section and still were like, oh, but before we go to our section, card chant real quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so these guys, you can't just get there and let's say, oh, man, it's like awkward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you know what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, Will Hanky looks like he put on about 20 pounds of muscle this off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was wearing a car shirt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, and your nose will hanky looks that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he definitely he haven't floored.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He came and cut off just flexing on folks like they did not care They were gonna show off their guns But yeah, shout out to Wilhelm keep put in the work this off season You can put in the work also in the weight room and also in the 1912 society app with your thoughts As we get through basketball season football season we've got women's basketball We've got volleyball all the sports are happening here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Until next time, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jacob Blaine.
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