ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Descriptions : Jermall Charlo sits down with Andre Berto for the most honest interview he's given in years — the real state of things with his twin brother Jermell, the untold story of confronting Errol Spence Jr. in Vegas, what actually happened around his brother's 2023 Canelo fight, and why he's not done chasing titles at 36.
Recorded in Houston ahead of Jermall's July 26 return against Koen Mazoudier in Sydney, Australia — on the same card as Tim Tszyu vs. Errol Spence Jr. — this is Square Up with Andre Berto at its rawest: two former Olympic-era fighters talking family, faith, loss, and the business of boxing with no filter.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Cold open: Berto & Spence's 2008 Olympic trials story
0:37 – Square Up intro, live from Houston
1:21 – Camp update, July 26 in Australia
2:19 – Scouting Koen Mazoudier with Ronnie Shields
3:20 – The spider monkey story
5:49 – Opening up on personal "distractions" and demons
9:03 – Growing up in Houston/Lafayette, dad's boxing gym
16:12 – Rooming with Errol Spence at the 2008 Olympic trials
22:46 – Studying Berto as an amateur & the Al Haymon barricade story
27:51 – Winning his first world title vs. Cornelius "K9" Bundrage
32:03 – The Julian "J Rock" Williams fight — his real breakout
38:00 – Where "Lions Only" actually came from
40:19 – Calling out Caleb Plant
41:23 – State of boxing, PBC, and the streaming era
42:35 – The real relationship with his twin brother Jermell
52:06 – The Errol Spence Vegas story, in full, for the first time
53:45 – Calling out champions at 168
54:02 – What he really thought about Jermell's 2023 Canelo fight
58:00 – Divorce, loss, and rebuilding with help from Roy Jones Jr.
1:00:47 – The legacy question, and the answer
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