Campfire Confessions: A Family Slasher Whodunit (2025) Indie Horror Book Review | S02E33

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Pack the tent, grab the bug spray, and get ready for some good old-fashioned family bonding.
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Because nothing fixes years of resentment, infidelity, homophobia,
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and secrets quite like putting everyone together in the woods where there's no easy way to leave.
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This book walks into the forest dressed like a summer camping slasher and then
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reveals itself to be a psychological whodunit where almost everyone has a secret,
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But everyone sees the truth a little differently, and the killer might already
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be sitting around the campfire. Ooh.
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I am Samantha. I'm Jeffy. And this is for the Spooky Talk Podcast.
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Still is. Still is. Still is. In a storm. Yeah.
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We are hiding out in the basement while a tornado warning is going.
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Our phones blew up like literally minutes. While I was driving here.
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Yeah. Well, I'm going to a basement. Hey. I might as well keep going.
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It told me to take shelter. And if you're going to be stuck in a basement,
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I mean, this is the basement to be stuck in. We've got a generator.
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We've got five, what is it, five little TVs that have VCRs and plenty of tapes.
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We're set. And the video game machine. Oh, yeah. And the Multicade.
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Yeah, the Multicade. Yes. A home-built, home-brew Multicade. Yes.
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We could survive for a while here. And we've got the drinky poos.
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Yeah, we're having a couple little drinks just because, yeah,
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you're on vacation. Yeah. Yeah, congrats. It's summer vacation.
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Yeah, my vacation starts on Friday, Friday evening. Your working vacation, though.
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Yeah. I mean, every vacation for me is working. Right, yeah. Yeah, I got boat shit.
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Yeah, I will be on a boat. I'm going to be on the River Styx God.
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Bringing everyone to music utopia.
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You should actually dress like, yes. Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
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That's not a bad idea. Just get a whole, like, monk thing going.
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And I mean, it's real freeing. Give out coins.
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It's real freeing. What is this thing that you're doing here? You know.
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He's, well, he's. Oh, okay. He's still, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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All right. I didn't know that's where we were going with this. Free.
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Free ballin'. Oh no, I knew something was happening.
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Oddly enough. Because I'm free. Oddly enough, the book is called Something Happened.
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And I am dying for a segue. Yes. Hello, my name is Sam and I'm dying for a segue.
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I will awkwardly segue all the way through this. Oh, I love, I absolutely love it.
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I love it. I drag you crazy, you segue. Yeah, my favorite thing is the most
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awkward, inappropriate segue that we could possibly find.
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But yeah, so something happened. Something happened. Something happened.
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Something always happens.
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I've been in a tent where something's happened. Same. Hey. Probably not the same way.
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I don't tent camp anymore. We've gone over this on some of the other slasher
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things that we've talked about where it's like, I'm not.
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No, I have tent camped before. It's time for a bathroom that I don't have to like run to.
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It's time for electric. I love the yard tent. You know, even that.
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I want a building. I would like a building with a door that locks.
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I would like running water. And I would like some type of toilet.
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That is what I would like. Yeah. Why in your backyard do you not have access
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to those things? You do. But then I'm just going to go inside.
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Yeah. You can go use the restroom inside. What do you lock it?
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Oh, you want a locked door. Yeah. I want a locked door. Okay.
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There's been. So there was so many times. I grew up where I was camping in the
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Driftless area of Wisconsin.
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And way out towards like Prairie du Chien.
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Um, and that was like where we'd be in the tent and there was definitely noises.
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Like things were out there, things were happening.
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And I'm like, I don't think I want to do this anymore.
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I don't want to like poop in the woods anymore. I'm just, I'm just over this.
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I like it. You like pooping in the woods? You know, I think I really enjoyed
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for the most, other than, so.
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Oh no, here's a story. There was a time that I did.
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Almost the entire length of the Wisconsin River. Oh, yes. Yes. That's right.
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And the sandbars? Yep. You were actually- When the sandbars were high?
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Yep. We used to canoe on the Wisconsin River in that section because you were
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also in the driftless area. Sure. So we did the entire thing.
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Yeah. And it was over the course of three days. No, if you're camping on the
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sandbars, except for the sandflies, things are actually okay.
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There's less critters around. The gentleman that I was with did not understand
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the current versus how long we were going to be.
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Oh, no. So the last day of things we figured out, because of the amount of time
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that we had between these two legs, the amount of length left,
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and the amount of the Mississippi we had to, like, kind of trudge through on the very back end.
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Yeah. Where the car was parked, by the way. Yeah. So there was a car there and
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there was a car way up. Yeah, so you didn't have to, like, trudge back.
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Yeah, and then we would trudge back into that. I mean, at least you didn't have
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to paddle back with the current. Yeah.
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Except for a quarter of it, because you have to do like a turn to get to the,
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but it doesn't, that really didn't matter.
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The point was that the amount of nautical miles that you'd have to go in order
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to get there, I literally had to do this the entire time for the entire thing.
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I was, I was livid because I was like, you made this big grandiose plan,
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which was really just, you took a map and you split it up three ways, but you didn't really.
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I remember when I was a kid, we did one of those trips where we literally,
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we went down the Wisconsin River. I think we started on the Kickapoo and then
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went into the Wisconsin through like Wyalusing State Park. And then.
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And it was the Kickapoo that we went out of. Oh, yeah.
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Kickapoo to Wisconsin. Yep. And that's the leg you do. And the Kickapoo is pretty
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nice. The current's okay there. But once you get onto the Wisconsin River,
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it's a little bit more aggressive. So what we did is we got out.
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We tried to portage a little bit.
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And it ended up where my dad miscalculated or something. And so he had to jog
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back several miles to go get the van to go pick us up.
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And I think I'm like a little kid, like walking miles like this sucks. And, and.
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It was actually a beautiful day. It was three days. That area is gorgeous.
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I love that area. It was amazing. We were like parked on the other side of like
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a bridge that was going over.
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And the entire thing was absolutely fantastic with the exception of the math
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was done wrong on the last leg.
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Oh, geez. And that was going to be the thing that killed us.
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And we did the camping at each one of the stops. And that was lovely,
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too. The food was great. I had a really good time.
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We even stopped at one of the little townships that were over there and picked
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up some, like, baked goods and things.
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Yeah, there's a lot of Amish in that area. There's also tons of apple orchards.
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Apple Festival is usually every September out in that area. And you can just
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kind of hop through all the different apple orchards and pick up all sorts of apple goodies.
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And apple cider donuts. Yeah, I thought it was, and those are my fave.
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That's the only donut I like.
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The the the apple cider slushies that have just come on to the scene yeah are
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probably some of the best things that i've ever had in my mouth and i've had
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a lot of things in my mouth sam even samantha,
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well a lot of things kind of like i know,
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i know you put everything in your mouth it's like a shark where it just has
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to like touch everything with it's mouth yeah just nibble it to see if it's.
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Just to see what it is what sam yes see what it is i was actually thinking back
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hey i've had a drink tonight so i'm a little punchy also thinking of some lyrics
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that we talked about a long time ago involving,
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what you eat and what you do other things with and how you make that just uh,
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that decision mm-hmm mm-hmm,
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And so something happened.
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Not so subtle. Not so subtle. No. So we'll talk about the book a little bit.
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We'll get into ridiculousness because we've also got a surprise at the end, too. Oh, yeah. We do.
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So Arthur Avalos, that is our author today. He wrote Something Happened. This is his first novel.
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And this is something I went into thinking it was just going to be a summer
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camping slasher, which is why I put it on the docket for the summer for us. Is this first or only?
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It's his only novel right now. So there's other things that he's written.
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There's other projects that he's doing, but this is his first and only standalone right now.
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It's actually a really cool cover. It comes with a really cool bookmark, too.
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And I really enjoy the art and the idea that, you know, family vacations can be killer.
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Um we're trying to get our thumbnail we are trying to get our thumbnail because
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we struggle so i make i move too much and i make too many faces,
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jeffy does freeze frames i'm a horrible model and like i can't stop my face
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from doing things um but so at the center of something happened um we have our
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main character jason and um,
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basically his sister gina decides that what everyone in this family needs is
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a camping trip like ones they took back when they were kids.
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Basically, they were younger, they were happier, but now they're all adults
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and everyone's arriving with baggage
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that has nothing to do with what they actually packed for the trip.
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And I want to tell you about how the chapters are laid out too.
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And I was going to get into this later, but so every character in this book
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has their own point of view that's represented.
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So you will actually rotate through the main character, Jason,
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his friend Al. No, no, no. Say his name.
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There's also a David who is the love interest. No, no, no, no.
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Say the other character's name. No, say it.
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Say it the goofy way in the book. Ale? No. I don't know. What are you talking about? Jason.
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No. It's not. No, the Y is in the middle of the name. I know.
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J-E-Y-S-O-N. Jason. Yes.
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J-A-Y-S-O-N. I don't like that. You're terrible. You don't have to like it. It's not your book.
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I've had a drink now. You haven't. He's going to be sassy this entire time,
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which when we get to our special surprise at the end, then we're, oh God.
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That actually works too. So basically there's a big family and one of them decides
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like, let's take a big old trip together and try and like get the family back
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together because everyone's basically now.
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Messed up. Are you looking at me like that?
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This is going to go terribly wrong. Yeah. This is going to be the worst episode
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we've ever done. Unhinged.
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This is the first time that I've had a libation and then tried to do this.
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I didn't make it heavy for you. No, I know.
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I don't drink though. I know. Once in a while you do and then things go terribly wrong.
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Friday I was drinking. Oh God. It was a good time. You know what?
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I could tell. Yeah. Friday was a good time. A real good time.
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We had summer ween. It was the best vibes.
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Summer ween, it was interesting because I thought I misinterpreted what summer ween meant.
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And I was like, oh, no, I wasn't thinking costume. I was thinking summery.
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The only person who thought it was costume was. Like one person.
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No, there was a couple people. Brian.
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Brian thought it was costume. And that's why he came with the Leather Daddy hat.
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No, but he had the tiki shirt. So he went summer as well. Yeah.
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But I think he had a costume.
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I think he brought a costume and he didn't put it on because he realized,
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oh, God, I don't, I don't, this is not a costume contest. We did not,
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like, really, it's funny because.
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Well, we didn't say it was a costume contest. We didn't. Because it's not.
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Right. Well, Summerween has become a thing now, which I don't think we.
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Where they have costumes? We didn't realize that, like, there is now Summerween and the Zeitgeist.
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And there is a Summer Halloween that is costumes but summer stuff.
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So, like, instead of a pumpkin, you have a watermelon and all of that.
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And we've done that before. We carved watermelons.
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But instead of just, like, I went tiki because we have the tiki boat coming up.
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A lot of people did, I think. Right. And I think that is actually what the vibe
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was. I really liked that. And I had a great time.
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The merch table was right next to Pete from Black Lagoon Room.
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And I had a great time talking with him. Yeah. That was super fun.
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We're all going to spaghet together. Yeah, we're going to spaghet.
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I can't wait to spaghet. We need a big table for the spaghetes.
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Yeah. They are limited on their tables at Mama Mia's. They don't have like a
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really big, I need to look at their floor plan and see about this big spaghetti table.
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Can they maybe put tables together? We might just have to be two.
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Separate entities in the night? Yeah, staring at one another.
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Just like make eye contact while you're sitting at the table?
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We can always have the boys and the gals.
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Oh, that's boring. No, then we can put spaghetti in everyone's mouth and then
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make it just kind of like a crime scene. And then we can try and lady in the tramp.
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Can't cradle lady in the tram We got there baby We did it,
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Our brains are weird. And if you would like to catch Cradle Lady and the Tramp,
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hit us up. Yeah, come join us for spaghetes. Follow us at Spooky Frog Podcast. Yes.
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I literally gave him one drink. That's all I did. And it wasn't even full.
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It was like here. I gave you like a shot and a half. And then I filled it. Oh, God, don't spill.
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And then I gave you cranberry juice. Okay, that's all right.
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So he's showing you an ice cube now. This is where we're at.
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This is what our podcast is. It's showing people ice cubes. That's right.
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It's a nice big ice cube. You know what also is a big ice cube?
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Probably not anything in the book. And I was just, I was just,
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uh, uh, rustling your jimmies there, Arthur. Oh no.
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Yeah. No. Uh, the, the, the Jason thing.
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I don't know. You're going to call me. I'm an old man. I'm an old man.
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So like Jason is Jason. You're embracing your old boomer. Oh yeah. Yeah. You really are.
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I got this, this wild eyed boomer energy in me right now. And I don't know why. It's the drinkies.
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Is it? I'm taking the drinkies away. So I made the executive decision to,
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he was like, well, make me a drink. And I was like, all right,
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well, I'll go into your, you know, liquor cabinet and I'll look.
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And I'm like, I think we should probably give you vodka and not whiskey.
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So the whiskey would probably, now I'm actually second guessing.
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And maybe I should have given you whiskey because that might have toned you
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down a little bit. Nothing tones her down. This is true. You're the human megaphone.
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That will come up later in the, would we survive part?
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But I actually think you would really like the premise of this book.
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Because you've got an entire family that each is coming with a ton of baggage,
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and they all have like different goals that they want to accomplish here.
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So like Jason's dealing with his father's rejection from coming out.
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Okay. And this was public. So they were at a dinner when Jason came out and
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his dad had a really horrible reaction very publicly and that went very badly. Sure.
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Also, mom is planning on, you know, announcing her divorce. Is this a not my kid?
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Not my son. Kind of. Kind of. And then mom is like going to announce her divorce
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at this camping trip because everyone just needs to like make a statement. To this man. Yes.
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Got it. Dad's probably been having an affair.
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The one sister that planned this wants to get everyone together and like have
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like a kumbaya moment or something. Another one might have stolen some money.
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The best friend of our main character has some like something's going on with
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her and we've got then a love interest for our main character and a brother
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that something happened to is there a four rooms uh um.
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Like, amalgamation that happens in here where everything drops all at the same time?
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No, it actually comes in pieces. Do you know the hotel room that I'm talking
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about? Yes, yes, yeah. Where the door opens and everyone's like...
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Yeah, no, this is more like a pieces together. Like, basically,
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there's such a good setup to this.
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Okay. Where, like, the action doesn't start until halfway through the book.
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A lot of it is the lead up to it, which it's...
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You'd think it would be a slow... I love the subtext. Yes, you'd think it would
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be a slow-moving book, but it's all character development.
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Sure. Like you're being very drawn in. And the entire time, not only is there
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the POV of every different character, but you also get the killer's POV and you don't know who it is.
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When that's done well, when it's presented well to the audience,
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it can be really good. The whodunit aspect was fantastic here.
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I was like hooked. The first season of Game of Thrones did not grab me at all.
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Have you ever watched any of that?
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Yeah, I watched probably up until like after the Red Wedding.
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Yeah. But not the, I think the last episode I saw was when one of the big dragons
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went into the ice and then they dragged him out and he was all like zombie dragon.
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Zombie dragon. Zombie dragon. That was like the last that I saw. Sure.
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Yeah. I got really bad after that anyway, so don't worry about it.
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But that first season, I actually skipped that series for up to like four years.
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I was not on the bandwagon because I was like, no, I watched that and it was
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terrible. Yeah. But that should be just because you meet every character and
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every one of them says, winter is coming.
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And it's like, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you're referencing.
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And you've just told me very little about the world.
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There's been very little world building. There's been a lot of chatter about
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all these people I don't care about.
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There's no reason for me to care about these characters yet.
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Yeah, this is very different where it's all about building up those characters.
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And what I really was fascinated about. So you get an impression of a character
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from some other character's point of view.
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So let's say Jason and he's got an opinion about one of his siblings or his
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mom or his dad or his best friend or the guy that he has a love interest in.
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And then it switches to that person's point of view, and it's completely different.
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You're like, wait a minute, that's not what this person is doing.
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That's not what they're thinking. That's not what they're feeling.
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And it really comes at those crossroads of my interpretation of what somebody's
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thinking and feeling might not be accurate.
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So how much of that story setup is the character that's explaining the other
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character telling on themselves?
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All of them are telling on themselves. So they're really projecting.
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Correct. There's a lot of projecting here.
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I love that. There's a lot of projecting. Yeah, I know. I know.
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That goes right back to our spaghetti lady in the tramp. Yes. Right.
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I'm going to take us back, taking us right back into spaghetti.
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The red strings are actually all over this one because you'll switch between Jason's point of view.
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Those red spaghetti. And then mom's point of view, the friend's point of view,
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and God damn it, Chessie.
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If you're playing the Jeffy drinking game, every time I go, God damn it,
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Jeffy, you have to take a drink.
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Mazel. Mine's empty, so I'm just faking it. And if you're great,
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I'm not pouring you another one. Come on. All I've got is whiskey. Sam.
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I'm not going upstairs. Sam. There's a tornado. Sam.
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I've got one word for you. Yeah? Come on. Come on. You can have mine. No.
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I don't want it anymore. I'm probably too spicy for my own good.
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You're always too spicy.
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So basically, the whole family gets together in the woods, and their first night, something happens.
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Okay. Someone starts trying to kill them, and there's a very obvious question
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of who's doing it, and is it one of them?
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Like, is it a family member, or is there some random person?
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Is it a bear pig? It's not a man bear pig.
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There was a really good whiskey that
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had a man bear pig. We were in your backyard. That was a good whiskey.
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That was very good. I like that. We need to have another fire this year.
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We should have a fire. I should make a pizza. You know what else is fire? This book? This book.
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All right. Let me give you some characters. And the reason I want to give you
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characters is because since there is a point of view from each of these people. So we've got.
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We've got the main character, Jason. He's our central character. Jason? Jason.
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But he doesn't, like, monopolize everything either. We've got Gina,
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who is the sister that, like, planned all of this. She picked out this random
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place in the woods in a national park that is not actually open, but nobody knows that.
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We've got Kat, which is another sister, who she may have—she's really close
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with Mom, and she may have stolen some money. Yeah, the money, though. Yeah.
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Yeah. Mom, she is definitely done.
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Well, she's also the character that is holding everything together.
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She's always held everything together.
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She also and I'll talk about this when we talk about Arthur is heavily influenced
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by his own mom, like real life mom.
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Dad has treated everyone pretty horribly.
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But he's also come to the realization that maybe that's not good and maybe he
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needs to kind of make good on everything.
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We've got Victor, which is, this is the wild card.
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Victor's a wild card in this whole thing. So when they were all kids camping,
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something happened to Victor, and it is not explained.
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Like something happened during a family trip when they were all kids,
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and no one will talk, man, bear, pig, and no one will talk about it.
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So Victor doesn't remember it, and no one will discuss it at all.
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You can tell Sam has had a child because she doesn't get, she acknowledges it,
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but she doesn't get distracted by all of my- Those are good thoughts.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are those indoor thoughts?
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Are those- Inside your brain thoughts? Are those inside thoughts?
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Yeah, those are inside thoughts.
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Got it, got it. So big. So big. Sparkle on.
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Sparkle on. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what sparkle on is.
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It's just like you did good. Like, come on, you're being your authentic self.
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That's the cutest thing I've ever seen.
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All right. And then we've got Wildcard, Jason's friend who comes along,
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Ale, and she's got something going on with her. She's an honorary family member.
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She's got something going on. And Jason is, Jason is very disturbed by what's going on. Jason. Yes.
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And randomly, Jason's love interest shows up. He'd been invited so he could
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go and he shows up anyway.
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And what's his name? David. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Got to be careful for those.
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Big gay Davids. This one is. Yes.
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I want to talk about Arthur a little bit, though, because Arthur is a really cool guy.
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So I met him for the first time at Slay the Lake and didn't really like he was very busy.
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I think that was the first event he ever did. He came to Spooky Frog then and
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he brought his partner, Carlos, and they shared a table with Jason Davis,
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who is the author of the book mail series.
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And is that where you first made contact with this? Yeah.
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Yeah. And so I bought his book right away and he did.
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So he did sign it. So it's kind of cute.
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It's actually really it was like yes and out yes and out yeah my drop so it's
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like just mantha something happens doesn't it always,
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no that's cute which i actually thought was really fun um and you can tell i
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actually do read these because all the books end up like super crumpled and
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everything they're just in terrible shape after i get done they smell amazing
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though by the way buy this book it has really good smell,
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i'm gonna start adding that to our podcast oh you know what we should do a smell
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scale yeah so one out of ten what is your smell scale for this one.
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All we hear is hot breathing. Seven. All right. Seven out of 10.
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Yeah. I wonder if they can hear that on that.
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I mean, you're just. I'm really good with the nose, too. Yes.
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You have an extreme sense of smell.
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I've never smoked in my life. Not once. Okay. That's nice. Everyone cares.
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This is unhinged. Arthur's from the Chicago area. You're not going to let this go.
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Um the book actually reached number one in amazon's lgbtq uh plus horror and
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thriller category during its first
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week so it actually did very well well qualifiers there are there but.
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But that's pretty fucking cool it is really cool well i just think about you
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know so but is everything so hyper categorized so there's like no way to like not,
00:24:10.466 --> 00:24:18.591
do that what's what's beautiful about modern day internet and about pop culture kind of dying which it is,
00:24:19.044 --> 00:24:25.926
is that it makes way for a lot of people like arthur like myself to become very,
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prolific in their own fields yes so like,
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i say that in jest but i also say it yeah i also say it about myself because
00:24:35.656 --> 00:24:39.286
people are like goth people in Milwaukee. That's bingo. You are.
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I am the top goth DJ in the greater Milwaukee area. Yeah.
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In in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Right. Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
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All right. So like there's five qualifiers for me. So like there you go.
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And, like, if you Googled, like, hey, who's the top, blah, blah,
00:24:59.429 --> 00:25:02.309
blah, blah, in the chat, Jimmy Cee garbage at the top. You already did. Of course you did.
00:25:02.389 --> 00:25:06.749
Of course you did. It will come up first. Yeah. And then it will be Dance Commander
00:25:06.749 --> 00:25:10.058
of the Goth Badge and all that. Why did you become Boston?
00:25:10.273 --> 00:25:13.259
Dance Commander of the Goth Badge. Okay. Like, that's what I think every time.
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You need to be Midwestern. Yeah.
00:25:15.389 --> 00:25:18.949
I need more Midwest. You need, I need Da Bears. Da Bears.
00:25:18.949 --> 00:25:22.089
Yeah. Da Boys. When you say Wynonna, that's when you're.
00:25:22.089 --> 00:25:25.129
Wynonna. That's when your Midwest comes out. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure.
00:25:25.129 --> 00:25:28.809
That's your casserole voice oh yeah yeah what is the uh,
00:25:29.429 --> 00:25:32.159
they call it something else out there it's not called casserole it's called
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hot dish hot dish hot dish i got i got some really good hot dish in madison
00:25:37.683 --> 00:25:39.329
oh yeah they've got a little hot
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dish yeah they got this hippie little place that i go to for a hot dish,
00:25:42.969 --> 00:25:46.949
yeah i would like hippie hot dish or would i you would it was actually pretty
00:25:46.949 --> 00:25:49.705
good river west hippie or like woods hippie.
00:25:52.545 --> 00:25:56.243
Um, this is more of a... Sedona Hippie?
00:25:57.619 --> 00:26:04.410
I would say less Sendix and more... How many crystals are we talking about?
00:26:05.165 --> 00:26:09.436
That's what I'm asking. What's the name of the place that you shop? Outpost?
00:26:10.226 --> 00:26:12.740
Outpost. Oh, okay. I'd say it's Outpost Level Hippie. All right.
00:26:12.740 --> 00:26:13.830
So you've got a little bit...
00:26:14.390 --> 00:26:18.910
Maybe a hint crunchier. So they shower. Beans and barley. Beans and...
00:26:18.910 --> 00:26:22.085
Okay. I'll give you beans and barley. There's some showering. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:22.451 --> 00:26:25.383
Yeah. We're good there. Yeah. I miss beans and barley.
00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:29.121
They have automatic sliding doors. Right.
00:26:29.789 --> 00:26:33.858
But that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then, like, it opens to a bunch of crunchies. Yeah.
00:26:34.530 --> 00:26:37.540
I'm okay with that. Yeah. I mean, that's the perfect level for me.
00:26:37.540 --> 00:26:43.337
Yeah. Because whenever I go to pick and save, it's like walking into one of the levels of hell.
00:26:44.202 --> 00:26:46.810
And it's like you're, like, battling, like, all the weirdos.
00:26:46.810 --> 00:26:49.450
Sure. And I'm just like, I'm just going to go to Outpost and go get my,
00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:51.174
like, snacks. When it's a white Rasta.
00:26:51.952 --> 00:26:56.650
I've not seen that. And it's like a swinging door. And, you know,
00:26:57.070 --> 00:27:00.015
it's like beans from a bag that you scoop.
00:27:00.218 --> 00:27:03.960
I used to do that. That's not my vibe. Well, I used to do all the bulk bins,
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which they don't have anymore except for at Outpost. I used to buy all my own
00:27:06.870 --> 00:27:08.779
things to make all my bread. I'm not talking bad about a bulk bin.
00:27:09.046 --> 00:27:11.150
I love it. Bulk bins managed well.
00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:14.770
Yes. You know, what is that, time? When you got, like, fresh time.
00:27:14.770 --> 00:27:18.526
Fresh time? Fresh time is just the, like, the whole.
00:27:18.838 --> 00:27:21.045
This is the most. That's the outpost of Whole Foods.
00:27:21.927 --> 00:27:27.260
This is the most middle-aged goddamn conversation we have ever had our grocery
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stores yeah we're stupid okay you know who has grocery stores probably arthur.
00:27:34.464 --> 00:27:40.793
But, Arthur, I'm with you, man. Like, we're top of the food chain in our very
00:27:40.793 --> 00:27:45.353
limited— He's going to psychoanalyze us, though, because he's actually a practicing
00:27:45.353 --> 00:27:46.615
licensed therapist. Sure.
00:27:46.737 --> 00:27:50.823
So he's a clinical professional counselor and national certified counselor,
00:27:50.823 --> 00:27:53.993
and his work is around anxiety, mood concerns,
00:27:54.573 --> 00:27:57.763
self-esteem, substance abuse, and crisis situations, and specifically,
00:27:57.763 --> 00:28:02.787
you know, centering around LGBTQ plus clients. Well, I can self-diagnose, too.
00:28:03.334 --> 00:28:05.801
Arthur, I can save you the time. I'm an asshole.
00:28:06.873 --> 00:28:11.215
So there we are. There we are. I'm apologizing to each and every one of you.
00:28:12.063 --> 00:28:18.707
For this. Because I caused this. This was my fault, Jesus.
00:28:19.867 --> 00:28:23.337
Sweet Jesus. All right. I'm going to make you feel bad about being all sassy,
00:28:23.337 --> 00:28:25.007
though, because I'm going to talk about his mom. Oh.
00:28:26.467 --> 00:28:32.270
So Arthur's mother was a major influence on this book and on the mother in this book.
00:28:33.067 --> 00:28:38.487
He lost his mother in 2022, and we've both lost our mom, so we understand what that is like.
00:28:40.003 --> 00:28:44.200
His relationship with his mom was great. um his her death made him realize that,
00:28:44.699 --> 00:28:47.277
you know publishing was something he really wanted to pursue like i gotta get
00:28:47.277 --> 00:28:52.767
on this now yeah um so definitely the way that the mom prioritizes family the
00:28:52.767 --> 00:28:54.277
way that she loves her children,
00:28:54.829 --> 00:28:59.537
and how strong she is that is definitely the mom in this book so she's heavily
00:28:59.537 --> 00:29:02.369
influenced so if you want to like really feel what arthur's,
00:29:03.387 --> 00:29:08.997
view of his mom is that is she lives in this text yeah which is just fantastic
00:29:08.997 --> 00:29:10.379
like that you can have that like,
00:29:10.919 --> 00:29:14.367
man it'd be cool if all of us had a representation to be able to immortalize
00:29:14.367 --> 00:29:18.767
somebody you love that is a beautiful thing yeah it's really really cool your
00:29:18.767 --> 00:29:21.327
mother character you someone you love so
00:29:21.687 --> 00:29:24.847
deeply is going to live on forever and their big thing was they shared like
00:29:24.847 --> 00:29:27.407
a love of horror and thrillers so they'd text each other,
00:29:27.927 --> 00:29:30.487
or call each other when they'd see like a new trailer and be like are you going to go see it,
00:29:31.149 --> 00:29:34.917
and that was like their thing that's awesome so then writing her into a horror
00:29:34.917 --> 00:29:39.437
thriller which this is definitely thriller category in horror really really
00:29:39.437 --> 00:29:41.487
cool Like their love of suspense was like just,
00:29:42.187 --> 00:29:44.210
a huge presence in his life.
00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:48.285
And I find that like really, really cool. But beyond that...
00:29:49.295 --> 00:29:54.690
Beyond just the fact that this book is a really cool slasher whodunit in a really
00:29:54.690 --> 00:29:56.586
creative way with all the different points of view.
00:29:57.642 --> 00:30:02.030
Arthur, when I talked to him, he told me that what he really wants to kind of
00:30:02.030 --> 00:30:06.099
like, he wants the slasher set up to be an exploration of trauma.
00:30:06.284 --> 00:30:09.480
Because each and every one of the siblings and the mom and the dad and the friend
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and the love interest, they all have trauma.
00:30:12.589 --> 00:30:17.190
And basically the way that one person's trauma can trigger another person's
00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:21.160
trauma and the way our own behavior can affect people in ways that we don't
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.020
realize is what he really wanted to get across in this book,
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.980
which makes it like so much deeper which i when i was going through the entire
00:30:28.980 --> 00:30:33.481
roller coaster ride of like i need to know who's the killer i need to know what this is like,
00:30:34.218 --> 00:30:38.820
i was then all of a sudden like wait a minute this is a little bit deeper like
00:30:38.820 --> 00:30:40.220
it is you know how you love an onion,
00:30:40.981 --> 00:30:45.073
this is an onion of a book i love that um he's also working on a sequel,
00:30:46.043 --> 00:30:50.890
so he's about 40 done he's hoping to have that come out next year in like april may,
00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:55.390
um he's also got a couple other things going on he's got a poetry collection
00:30:55.390 --> 00:31:00.240
called the dying years that came out um also expanding a short story into a
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.140
full length um and then he
00:31:02.560 --> 00:31:05.870
and that one actually includes like parallel universes and like time jumps and
00:31:05.870 --> 00:31:07.746
stuff so stuff that you really like,
00:31:08.540 --> 00:31:09.656
He's laughing at me all the time.
00:31:10.486 --> 00:31:13.975
Well, I'm just really enjoying. I get so into it.
00:31:14.149 --> 00:31:20.851
Well, yeah. And then when I drink, you know, I can't help but like. Ruin everything.
00:31:25.011 --> 00:31:28.521
Well, your hands move around so much when you talk. I do. You know what?
00:31:28.521 --> 00:31:31.321
I am a talker with my hands and then you get very distracted.
00:31:31.321 --> 00:31:35.152
Well, I just imagine even the deaf are like, tone it down. Shut up.
00:31:35.605 --> 00:31:39.366
You know what I mean? Like the deaf are just like, all right.
00:31:39.569 --> 00:31:41.251
You know what? I don't even really think I'm doing it.
00:31:41.751 --> 00:31:44.941
But I do this when I'm like, so I'll be on the phone for work and I'll do this
00:31:44.941 --> 00:31:47.435
and I'm like, nobody can see me. It's very strange.
00:31:48.071 --> 00:31:50.506
I'm going to speed run this because we have gone way off the rails.
00:31:51.139 --> 00:31:53.461
What? Way off the rails. I don't think so.
00:31:53.948 --> 00:31:56.671
We have a quick lore score which I do for the summer. Lore score!
00:31:57.091 --> 00:31:59.513
Yeah. So the summer camp slasher, eight out of ten.
00:32:00.371 --> 00:32:03.588
Hey. Pretty accurate but there's so much more to it. It gives kind of like.
00:32:04.575 --> 00:32:08.937
Well, this is the first family-oriented Summer Slasher that I've ever heard
00:32:08.937 --> 00:32:10.957
about. Right, which I think is really, really cool.
00:32:11.597 --> 00:32:15.744
It's an interesting dynamic on it. Right, yeah. Because usually it's just,
00:32:16.017 --> 00:32:18.997
hey, look at all these hot co-eds going into the woods. Yeah,
00:32:18.997 --> 00:32:20.737
they're all bumping uglies. Oh, boy, we're going to bone.
00:32:21.197 --> 00:32:25.618
And oh, no, murder. This is not that. Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of murder.
00:32:26.112 --> 00:32:29.597
You get your murder. You get what you signed up for, but you also get a lot
00:32:29.597 --> 00:32:33.367
of like, you get the little sprinkle of family trauma and all the rotating point of views.
00:32:33.367 --> 00:32:37.037
And it's actually really cool. I love the Onion rotating point of views where
00:32:37.037 --> 00:32:41.019
they're all kind of telling, they're telling you who they are as characters,
00:32:41.472 --> 00:32:45.465
through the lens that they put others underneath. Yeah.
00:32:45.617 --> 00:32:50.147
Which I think is the most telling thing that when you listen to a person,
00:32:50.147 --> 00:32:53.424
they're telling you. Their point of view. About themselves.
00:32:54.097 --> 00:32:58.763
Yes. Yes. Because they're interpreting that behavior through their lens of like what they would do.
00:32:59.251 --> 00:33:01.897
So it's like when we hear a politician accuse somebody else.
00:33:02.057 --> 00:33:04.947
Well, she's just probably lying all the time. because you're used to lying all
00:33:04.947 --> 00:33:10.919
the time every accusation is a confession yeah yep um would we survive.
00:33:12.097 --> 00:33:14.377
I want to do this and then we're gonna have a little special we got a little
00:33:14.377 --> 00:33:17.548
special present okay all right so i gave you 50 50,
00:33:18.001 --> 00:33:23.447
because all right so you're camp engineer um you're handling logistics basically
00:33:23.447 --> 00:33:27.370
like if something breaks you're gonna fix it everything is fine um,
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.477
you're really good at turning a chaotic situation into a problem with steps,
00:33:31.977 --> 00:33:35.637
there are things that we can do to overcome this um you're going to inventory
00:33:35.637 --> 00:33:41.372
everything try and like figure things out and your lack of fear means that like you're not tolerating,
00:33:41.987 --> 00:33:46.428
any of this other bullshit at all um your weakness is hey guy.
00:33:47.702 --> 00:33:54.532
Again hey guy put down the knife yeah like um so basically before your logic
00:33:54.532 --> 00:33:56.761
brain kicks in you're gonna be like
00:33:57.202 --> 00:34:01.482
pretty cavalier about things and it'll be like hey guy what are you doing oh
00:34:01.482 --> 00:34:06.542
yeah and then step under mine under this face under this mug in the newspaper
00:34:06.542 --> 00:34:08.731
it is gonna get it is gonna say,
00:34:09.422 --> 00:34:13.222
what are you gonna do stab me says man stab my knife yes that's exactly it I
00:34:13.642 --> 00:34:16.142
can't do the human megaphone, so it'll be like, shh, we got to hide.
00:34:16.902 --> 00:34:19.807
And you're like, what? Will you stab me?
00:34:20.622 --> 00:34:22.744
I do well because I would have rented a cabin.
00:34:25.641 --> 00:34:29.192
I'm not doing any of this. So you think you're safe just because you're glamping?
00:34:29.192 --> 00:34:31.482
You think murder doesn't happen in a cabin?
00:34:31.642 --> 00:34:35.142
I'm locking the door, and if there is any shenanigans. Oh, because there's a door. You know what?
00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:41.752
I am literally walking to the car at the first sign of shenanigans. I'm done. Shenanigans.
00:34:43.427 --> 00:34:48.082
However, I really do love a whodunit. Yeah. Especially if I get hooked up with
00:34:48.082 --> 00:34:50.212
you where we're, like, trying to figure something out. We're screwed.
00:34:50.212 --> 00:34:51.782
Oh, we're two catty bitches. Yeah, we're done.
00:34:52.542 --> 00:34:55.612
We're going to be up there and be like, mmm. We're also listening in on all
00:34:55.612 --> 00:34:58.472
of this tea. This shit going on. Yeah. So I am listening to tea.
00:34:58.902 --> 00:35:00.312
And then we get stabbed for behind because we're too busy, like,
00:35:00.312 --> 00:35:03.402
doing one of these. Yeah, we got the tea going. Yeah, and then just stab,
00:35:03.402 --> 00:35:05.752
stab, stab. Yeah. Stabbing Miss Stabbington.
00:35:06.242 --> 00:35:09.962
But overall, I gave us a 70%. Yeah. I think our odds are pretty good here.
00:35:10.722 --> 00:35:17.082
Overall, we're, you know, doing pretty good You know, how it goes wrong is If
00:35:17.082 --> 00:35:19.302
I think I've figured out who the killer is And I start, like,
00:35:19.302 --> 00:35:23.933
collecting evidence And then I'm wrong, we're done For you, it's, hey, guy,
00:35:24.682 --> 00:35:27.004
Sam thinks you're murdering people What's up with that?
00:35:27.370 --> 00:35:32.082
And then we're dead Stab, stab, stab Yeah Basically, if we just If one of us
00:35:32.082 --> 00:35:36.832
goes get in the car, we're fine We're totally fine Trigger warnings before I
00:35:36.832 --> 00:35:38.312
get into our special segment Don't die,
00:35:39.275 --> 00:35:43.106
Um, homophobia is a good one here. I need a little drink in here.
00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:46.721
Uh, there's nothing in. No, that's not good. No. You can try,
00:35:47.101 --> 00:35:48.681
you can try this, but I don't think you'll like it.
00:35:49.061 --> 00:35:53.581
Um, dysfunctional family, violence and murder, trauma and grief and loss.
00:35:54.441 --> 00:35:58.511
All big ones. Um, Shelf Neighbors. Uh, The Last Time I Lied by Riley Sager.
00:35:58.511 --> 00:36:02.231
I know that Riley's more popular, um, but it's a summer camp one.
00:36:02.464 --> 00:36:06.695
We've got The Last House on New... Yeah, you're dead. Sorry. Just die.
00:36:08.048 --> 00:36:13.011
Uh the last house on needless street by katarina ward um a weird little book
00:36:13.204 --> 00:36:17.289
very weird different perspectives and very strange perspectives,
00:36:17.766 --> 00:36:23.661
um and then the hunting party by lucy foley um uh like more mystery than horror
00:36:23.661 --> 00:36:26.008
and then for movies bodies bodies bodies,
00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:32.632
did you see i didn't see that it's kind of it's got pete davidson in it it's not great but it's fun,
00:36:33.874 --> 00:36:37.201
i love this idea i think You might actually watch this tonight. Okay. It's super fun.
00:36:37.741 --> 00:36:43.632
Bodies, bodies, bodies. The rental from 2020. It's lots of relationship secrets and paranoia.
00:36:44.481 --> 00:36:49.589
And then You're Next from 2011, which is a dysfunctional family gathering.
00:36:50.281 --> 00:36:53.231
Also, The Invitation is one that I would put in there, too, because it's another
00:36:53.231 --> 00:36:56.161
dysfunctional family with a bunch of secrets, and I love The Invitation.
00:36:57.656 --> 00:36:58.631
Special Treat.
00:37:00.339 --> 00:37:08.677
I got a box. What's in the box? I got a box. So I ordered one thing from a vendor
00:37:08.677 --> 00:37:10.283
that I really like called Glamgoria.
00:37:10.707 --> 00:37:14.834
And I get this box. And I'm like, this is bigger than what I ordered.
00:37:15.652 --> 00:37:19.786
And I'm like, what's going on here? Because I ordered one thing.
00:37:20.116 --> 00:37:22.547
And I opened it and then I saw there was something else going on.
00:37:22.547 --> 00:37:25.107
And then I stopped because I wanted to unbox it here.
00:37:25.827 --> 00:37:28.367
So Glamgoria, very, very cool.
00:37:29.247 --> 00:37:32.817
So basically it's a mom and daughter team that make different body products
00:37:32.817 --> 00:37:36.643
and things like that I first came across them in Omen,
00:37:37.143 --> 00:37:41.157
Omen Curious Their Products I was like this is awesome they've got like Lisa
00:37:41.157 --> 00:37:44.637
Frankenstein is one of their scents like really fun, playful,
00:37:44.637 --> 00:37:46.274
but monster inspired stuff,
00:37:47.481 --> 00:37:52.097
I just got that Lisa Frankenstein yeah, Lisa Frankenstein I literally just picked
00:37:52.097 --> 00:37:54.603
it up now isn't that a film too?
00:37:55.044 --> 00:37:57.997
Yes, it was adorable I loved it was it?
00:37:57.997 --> 00:38:01.511
I really liked it yeah i still mean to watch it my boyfriend smells really bad.
00:38:02.904 --> 00:38:07.117
Oh that's the joke yeah i get it yes because he's dead um but basically they
00:38:07.117 --> 00:38:11.677
they also use their platform to support causes including like queer sport resources
00:38:11.677 --> 00:38:15.367
and reproductive rights organizations so love them as a company um,
00:38:16.127 --> 00:38:21.520
they like we follow each other on instagram please follow glam goria um but so,
00:38:22.763 --> 00:38:26.807
first of all their packaging is really really cool um and at first I saw this
00:38:26.807 --> 00:38:28.283
and I saw there was a cute little note on it.
00:38:28.724 --> 00:38:31.360
And so I just have to read this.
00:38:32.700 --> 00:38:38.450
Says, thank you so much for your support. I wish we lived closer. We love your events. Oh.
00:38:38.770 --> 00:38:41.790
How cute is that? And a little green heart.
00:38:41.947 --> 00:38:46.300
And a little green heart. And there's a frog. Oh, a little froggy guy.
00:38:46.433 --> 00:38:47.461
They sent me a frog. Look at him.
00:38:47.675 --> 00:38:50.526
And a couple stickers. So we've got horror girly.
00:38:52.090 --> 00:38:56.670
And on my way to watch horror. Sure. Super, super cute. Love this.
00:38:56.670 --> 00:39:00.450
Is that like keys of like a mass murderer? Is that what that is?
00:39:00.450 --> 00:39:03.770
Yes. The key ring? Yeah, so there's little, like, do that.
00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:06.640
I don't know how to do the influencer thing. I don't know how to do this,
00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:11.104
but there's some cool stuff. You're doing good. Also, cute little wrapping paper.
00:39:11.842 --> 00:39:15.880
So the thing that I actually ordered, so I actually only ordered X-Files shorts.
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.680
Booty shorts. Because I'm an X-Files girly, and it's summer,
00:39:18.680 --> 00:39:20.439
and, you know, the truth is out there.
00:39:21.762 --> 00:39:26.110
But there's more stuff in here. The truth is out here that it's thick. That it's thick.
00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:30.156
Thick. Oh, okay. Living dead girl foaming sugar scrub.
00:39:30.394 --> 00:39:34.560
Okay. Oh, okay. So- Wait, so you only ordered the shorts? I only ordered the
00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:37.744
shorts. Oh, wow. Okay. Wow, there's a lot of- All right.
00:39:37.935 --> 00:39:43.566
This is really awesome. It's lime neroli scented. Ooh, yeah. Hang on.
00:39:44.453 --> 00:39:47.040
Ooh, and it's got a little prize inside. It's like a single- Oh,
00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:49.056
what is he? Oh, he's a little skull. He's a little skull guy.
00:39:49.207 --> 00:39:51.837
Oh, and he's soap. Yeah. So it's a sugar scrub.
00:39:52.092 --> 00:39:55.680
So like an exfoliator. Oh, that- You know how my nose is. Yes.
00:39:55.680 --> 00:39:56.997
We've established the nose.
00:39:57.230 --> 00:40:01.590
I can smell Skittles in your purse if you're sitting next to me.
00:40:01.910 --> 00:40:03.894
I can smell them. Yeah, he's like a basset hound.
00:40:04.782 --> 00:40:08.050
That's really good. It's really good. And the packaging is so cute.
00:40:08.050 --> 00:40:10.770
You know I'm spicy. I would just be like, that's terrible. Right,
00:40:10.770 --> 00:40:11.434
I'd be like, I hate it, yeah.
00:40:12.154 --> 00:40:14.860
Wow, that's actually really good. And I do love a sugar scrub.
00:40:14.860 --> 00:40:16.680
Move on, because I'm going to keep... All right, well, I'm going to give you
00:40:16.680 --> 00:40:20.095
the cap here. I'm just going to live in this for a moment.
00:40:21.233 --> 00:40:25.670
Oh, it's a zombie soap. All right, so a zombie soap? No, that's a bath bomb.
00:40:25.670 --> 00:40:29.389
Is that a bath bomb? It looks like a bath bomb. Oh, is he bath bomb or soap?
00:40:30.882 --> 00:40:32.595
I'm going to put my finger in him. Don't put your finger in him.
00:40:33.343 --> 00:40:34.863
No, he's soap. You see, I told you he's soap.
00:40:35.443 --> 00:40:38.023
And then we've got- Well, he looks in the shape of a bath bomb.
00:40:38.023 --> 00:40:40.303
You know what? He is, though. But this is super cool. Look at him.
00:40:42.023 --> 00:40:47.855
He's totally like- And then we've got the clock is ticking. It's almost time.
00:40:48.238 --> 00:40:50.264
Horror-thon hand sanitizer.
00:40:50.901 --> 00:40:54.273
That's- Sugar scrub. That's really- What's a sugar scrub? Have you never- So
00:40:54.273 --> 00:40:56.623
it's sugar. Well, you know I'm a lush gal.
00:40:57.123 --> 00:41:00.523
Oh, okay. I love lush. So he is. He's a bath bomb. And I do,
00:41:00.523 --> 00:41:04.451
yeah, I do bath bombs all the time and I do that, but I've never done a sugar scrub.
00:41:04.869 --> 00:41:08.473
Oh, I love a sugar scrub. Yeah? So what is it? It's kind of a loofah thing?
00:41:08.473 --> 00:41:11.663
You put it in the loofah? You just put it on with your hands. And you just...
00:41:12.063 --> 00:41:15.193
And you scrub it in there. The sugar is just supposed to be a fine particle
00:41:15.193 --> 00:41:20.303
against the... I use it before I wax because then it gets all the dead skin. Dead skin? Okay. Yeah.
00:41:20.703 --> 00:41:24.901
That smells amazing. I want to see what this hand sanitizer smells like. I can't even...
00:41:25.714 --> 00:41:28.443
I can't even tell you. Oh, this is like a citrusy kind of...
00:41:28.863 --> 00:41:31.391
All right, let me get in there. Yeah, get in there. I don't want to get in there.
00:41:31.577 --> 00:41:33.963
Also, their logo is like the cutest thing ever.
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.323
It's got this mouth with fangs and glamgoria in it, and no one can see what
00:41:38.323 --> 00:41:42.043
I'm doing. I'm going to cover up your face to make sure that you'll have to figure that out.
00:41:43.383 --> 00:41:46.767
This is fine. Yeah. I like this one. It smells a little bit like Gooby Gone.
00:41:47.922 --> 00:41:50.013
I think that's what does it. It's because you're orange. Well,
00:41:50.013 --> 00:41:53.553
yeah, but it's like... I like the orange, actually. So here is...
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:55.835
Yeah, get that in there.
00:41:58.540 --> 00:42:02.333
That's so cool. this is the cutest thing yeah it's not gonna do it it's not
00:42:02.333 --> 00:42:05.216
gonna oh there we go oh that's awesome,
00:42:06.759 --> 00:42:10.683
And this one's got like an old retro TV on it, too. Well, you know what that is.
00:42:11.292 --> 00:42:15.925
What? That's Halloween 3. Oh, really? That's when Halloween got away from, yeah.
00:42:16.314 --> 00:42:21.695
That's the Silver Shamrock, I believe, is the fake.
00:42:22.966 --> 00:42:27.176
Come on now, Sam. I'm losing cred. Well, that's why you're the books and I'm the movies.
00:42:27.176 --> 00:42:32.236
Yeah, exactly. But yeah, Silver Shamrock, Horathon, hand sanitizer.
00:42:32.236 --> 00:42:35.966
Oh, it's hand sanitizer. Yes. No, the reason that I'm picking up the Goobie
00:42:35.966 --> 00:42:37.984
Gone smell is because of the alcohol.
00:42:38.634 --> 00:42:41.586
Yep, the alcohol, that sticky release thing.
00:42:41.926 --> 00:42:44.006
I love... So this makes a lot more sense now. Remember when...
00:42:44.006 --> 00:42:46.546
I was feeling bad for a minute because I was like, is that a one-off?
00:42:46.546 --> 00:42:50.516
No, this is just hand sanitizer. We were so obsessed with the song Living Dead
00:42:50.516 --> 00:42:51.746
Girl in High School. Remember that?
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.277
This is, yes. I love that. This is really good.
00:42:54.946 --> 00:42:57.284
So during the pandemic, I'm going to give you a little...
00:42:57.966 --> 00:43:01.150
I'm going to take some more of your time and tell you a story. Story time with Jeffy.
00:43:01.748 --> 00:43:04.806
Um during the pandemic everyone ran
00:43:04.806 --> 00:43:09.347
out of perell and hand sanitizer so we actually made our own batches uh,
00:43:10.246 --> 00:43:15.366
for our facility because we were essential like like we were not essential we
00:43:15.366 --> 00:43:19.476
were essential same thing yeah so we i was not essential at all but we were
00:43:19.476 --> 00:43:22.306
we were very essential yeah you guys were yeah we were building.
00:43:23.246 --> 00:43:29.836
Yeah well not just that but so all of the hotels that were on the coast where,
00:43:29.836 --> 00:43:32.143
and I think I've said this in the past in the pod, I don't know,
00:43:32.462 --> 00:43:35.826
but all the hotels on the coast that were changing over to be makeshift hospitals,
00:43:36.366 --> 00:43:37.426
they all needed generators.
00:43:37.426 --> 00:43:41.176
Yes. And I supply batteries and generators and different things.
00:43:41.176 --> 00:43:44.626
So we were sending a lot of batteries and different things to make sure.
00:43:44.626 --> 00:43:46.997
Yeah. Because none of these hotels were ever retrofitted in the...
00:43:47.647 --> 00:43:51.827
To handle respirators. Right, because why would they be? Not in bulk. Yeah, why would they be?
00:43:52.215 --> 00:43:56.334
So we had to do that. And then we ran out of hand sanitizer.
00:43:56.334 --> 00:43:59.744
We ran out of wipes. We ran out of all kinds of stuff. Yeah.
00:43:59.744 --> 00:44:05.384
But, and I'll tell you, our hand sanitizer smelled like hand sanitizer.
00:44:05.384 --> 00:44:05.974
There are so many hand sanitizer.
00:44:06.154 --> 00:44:10.896
Like it was just like, you put it on your hand and your eyes would water and you were just like, oh!
00:44:11.325 --> 00:44:13.914
Well, and I worked in the pet industry for many, many years.
00:44:13.914 --> 00:44:18.254
And I used hand sanitizer religiously because you don't want to cross-contaminate
00:44:18.254 --> 00:44:21.054
anything and you're working with animals. This smells so good,
00:44:21.054 --> 00:44:23.011
though. It comes across as soap.
00:44:23.557 --> 00:44:28.404
Like, I got confused until I read hand sanitizer. Yeah, then it makes the alcohol
00:44:28.404 --> 00:44:31.504
make sense. But I'm going to take this. Oh, is it under three ounces?
00:44:31.689 --> 00:44:34.632
So I'm leaving in the morning. By the time you see this, I'm going to be gone.
00:44:35.594 --> 00:44:39.901
So, but before, you know, I get too far into that, Glamgoria,
00:44:40.535 --> 00:44:44.974
please, please, please, they are online. They are also on Instagram. They're on TikTok.
00:44:45.034 --> 00:44:48.864
Talk um they have new releases all the time too which is cool so you can't really
00:44:48.864 --> 00:44:50.124
get bored with anything they do
00:44:50.473 --> 00:44:55.004
they also are at shops like our friends at omen yep um which is where i first
00:44:55.004 --> 00:45:01.072
found them as well but again like their mission is so cool they are just amazing people they,
00:45:01.664 --> 00:45:06.004
um you know again it's a mother-daughter team and support a small business support
00:45:06.004 --> 00:45:10.254
somebody who is doing something really creative in this space um you know there's
00:45:10.254 --> 00:45:14.254
a lot of people trying to capitalize on all things goth and spooky right now.
00:45:14.334 --> 00:45:17.594
This isn't your bath and body works like, hey, once a year we put out a scent
00:45:17.594 --> 00:45:19.160
that's vaguely Halloween-y.
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.175
Like, these are really cool. Two fluid ounces.
00:45:21.622 --> 00:45:24.055
Two, oh, sorry. Okay, I might take this with me on the plane.
00:45:24.712 --> 00:45:27.797
Oh, people are going to be, and I just upgraded to business class too. That's great.
00:45:28.297 --> 00:45:31.337
Yeah, and that cap's not going to come off. No, not at all. None of this comes
00:45:31.337 --> 00:45:33.097
across as cheap. No, it's not.
00:45:33.577 --> 00:45:36.717
I'm going to be a dick for a minute. Yeah. But a lot of these companies,
00:45:36.717 --> 00:45:39.977
they just kind of grab the cheapest stuff that they can. They slap a little whore thing on it.
00:45:40.097 --> 00:45:43.567
I've done that. Yeah. Yeah, I actually ordered something a while back and I
00:45:43.567 --> 00:45:45.317
feel really bad because- This feels quality.
00:45:45.937 --> 00:45:50.426
The scent sounded like it was going to be very good. I ordered a small bottle and it's terrible.
00:45:51.357 --> 00:45:55.507
It's like kitty perfume. Yeah. Like what you get in like kitty makeup and stuff.
00:45:55.507 --> 00:46:00.627
Well, they're just white labeling stuff from China and then slapping a label on it and selling it.
00:46:00.677 --> 00:46:04.184
Like this is like, you know, that they actually care about what they're doing.
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.997
She's super like they're super passionate about what they do.
00:46:07.977 --> 00:46:12.577
I talked to them a little bit on Instagram before we did the show because I
00:46:12.577 --> 00:46:16.137
was like, hey, like, can I can I do this on the show? Like, do you mind if I
00:46:16.137 --> 00:46:17.177
open your box on the show?
00:46:17.477 --> 00:46:21.413
And they were all about it. But like they actually care about what their products are like these.
00:46:21.854 --> 00:46:25.957
They're not these are good products and you can tell like they're making the
00:46:25.957 --> 00:46:30.347
labels they have a high input on like and no one here is getting paid we're
00:46:30.347 --> 00:46:34.837
not paid endorsement I don't get paid for nothing yeah we don't we lose money on everything,
00:46:35.477 --> 00:46:39.567
yes like we put money in this is all passion project it is yeah exactly so if
00:46:39.567 --> 00:46:42.507
and I've been a big fan of Glamboria for a while he's doing the chest thing,
00:46:43.047 --> 00:46:46.217
you know what that's for free you get that for free this is free too you get
00:46:46.217 --> 00:46:49.113
the chesticles look at this for free look at it's happening for you,
00:46:50.777 --> 00:46:51.877
go buy Glam Gorya.
00:46:52.237 --> 00:46:54.357
And if you do, Jeffy will stop doing this.
00:46:55.277 --> 00:47:00.978
If you want him to stop, go to the shop. And if you want it, I will inbox you,
00:47:02.196 --> 00:47:04.822
Yeah. I can't, I can't do that.
00:47:08.282 --> 00:47:11.293
What's going on? What am I doing? I'm leaving you.
00:47:12.065 --> 00:47:16.982
I'm leaving you. I actually am. Um, so it is 8 30 PM in the year of our Lord.
00:47:16.982 --> 00:47:21.928
And, uh, in at 5 AM, I will be at the airport. It's true.
00:47:23.022 --> 00:47:25.972
I'm leaving. So by the time- Samantha's done with these shenanigans.
00:47:25.972 --> 00:47:28.822
I am done with these shenanigans. And I'm like, I'm going, I'm leaving.
00:47:28.822 --> 00:47:31.342
I'm going to an island. And I'm like, not looking back.
00:47:32.002 --> 00:47:34.773
But yeah, by the time this comes out, I will be long gone.
00:47:35.822 --> 00:47:39.072
And that's what I have going on. But like literally the day I get back,
00:47:39.072 --> 00:47:43.184
you're leaving. Yes. So it's like- We're lady hawking it. Yep.
00:47:43.922 --> 00:47:47.032
That's right. Just again- That's going to be a really long piece of spaghetti.
00:47:47.032 --> 00:47:49.721
Somebody actually gets it and says something in the comments.
00:47:49.877 --> 00:47:53.242
So if you want me to shut up about Ladyhawk, say something. Well,
00:47:53.242 --> 00:47:54.992
also, it's a Romeo and Juliet.
00:47:55.206 --> 00:48:00.702
Sure. You passage. I'm not dying for you. Yeah. Same. Fair.
00:48:01.662 --> 00:48:04.922
You're like same. I mean, I would jump in front of a- I would live for you.
00:48:04.922 --> 00:48:07.704
Yeah. I would not die. Like, why would you want me to die?
00:48:07.972 --> 00:48:10.619
Yeah. You wouldn't want me to. I will live for you. Yeah.
00:48:12.142 --> 00:48:17.074
I would take on a very strong ox. Yeah. That was charging for you. Oh, yeah.
00:48:17.822 --> 00:48:21.662
I would take on- i'd kick like a wild boar or something sure yeah i'd wrestle
00:48:21.662 --> 00:48:27.465
very large chicken sure very i'd wrestle an alligator yeah yeah,
00:48:28.282 --> 00:48:32.172
but you also want me to live so i will live yeah yeah yeah same here like don't
00:48:32.172 --> 00:48:35.410
don't mess yourself up trying to save me if i'm a goner just you know,
00:48:36.194 --> 00:48:39.942
again write a book about me yeah exactly write a book about me which is funny
00:48:39.942 --> 00:48:44.592
because the book that i'm narrating the sequel to bookmail um i have a character
00:48:44.592 --> 00:48:49.534
in it but he's like gender swapped so i get to like have my own character, have...
00:48:50.142 --> 00:48:53.185
A penis? Very horrible thing. You finally have a penis. Sure.
00:48:53.348 --> 00:48:55.159
The only reason I want one is to pee standing up.
00:48:55.612 --> 00:48:58.979
I just want to be able to pee in the woods. You've never just wanted a...
00:48:59.995 --> 00:49:04.517
Somebody in the face? No. No? No, I just want a helicopter. Just hit it?
00:49:04.857 --> 00:49:08.058
No. Just hit him in the face a little bit? No, I don't. No, I want to be away from people.
00:49:08.766 --> 00:49:12.377
It's like when I want to encounter more people. What are we doing?
00:49:12.757 --> 00:49:16.397
It's like you don't even know me at all. Give me my flask back.
00:49:18.878 --> 00:49:22.827
Toronto, if you are Canadian or you would like to be Canadian,
00:49:22.827 --> 00:49:26.580
if you would like to escape all of this and us, buy a boat ticket.
00:49:27.577 --> 00:49:30.957
You can watch him do this chesticle thing live in a person.
00:49:32.083 --> 00:49:35.572
In Canada. Come, imbibe, watch my chesticles.
00:49:35.706 --> 00:49:39.810
Internationally, chesticle. I will DJ for you with my chesticles.
00:49:39.810 --> 00:49:45.474
We are doing lots of other things, though. We have our Milwaukee boat that is just about sold out.
00:49:46.584 --> 00:49:50.236
That one is going to be Labor Day weekend. On a Sunday, that is our tiki boat.
00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:56.395
Then coming up in October, we have got a blood barge in Cleveland. Yeah.
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.986
And we also then have our blood barge in New Orleans for Halloween.
00:50:01.212 --> 00:50:04.990
And then we're coming back here for hella Halloween.
00:50:05.915 --> 00:50:09.130
Yeah. We got Spooktacular.
00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:13.110
The Halloween Spooktacular. Oh, yeah. It's always a big one for us.
00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:15.000
And, wait, we're doing Jazz in the Park.
00:50:15.515 --> 00:50:18.820
Yes, we are. Jazz in the Park is now Gotham Park, and we're closing out Jazz
00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:22.170
in the Park. Well, we're also headlining. Bayview Bash. Bayview Bash.
00:50:22.170 --> 00:50:25.630
If you are in the Milwaukee area, Chicago area, come up for Bayview Bash.
00:50:25.630 --> 00:50:27.165
It's a giant street festival.
00:50:27.507 --> 00:50:30.890
They shut down one street, and if you can spell it, you get extra points.
00:50:30.890 --> 00:50:32.923
It's knick-knick. We all call it KK.
00:50:34.110 --> 00:50:37.940
But they shut down the entire street. It's a huge festival, tons of bands,
00:50:37.940 --> 00:50:41.967
tons of food, tons of vendors. We are closing out the WMSC stage,
00:50:42.211 --> 00:50:44.590
which is going to be super, super fun. Yeah.
00:50:45.250 --> 00:50:49.270
Man, to have all of these local institutions reach out to us and have us be
00:50:49.270 --> 00:50:55.888
part of their shenanigans is pretty— Yeah, it's really humbling.
00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:59.630
And a good friend, DJ Cynthia. She's got some events coming up too.
00:50:59.630 --> 00:51:03.410
She sure does. So at Mad Planet on the 28th. She's got a day.
00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:07.160
The day before we're going to be in Toronto. Yes, in Canada.
00:51:07.904 --> 00:51:10.690
You're going to be helping her out there. Yeah, she'll be at Mad Planet.
00:51:10.690 --> 00:51:14.810
And then she also has September 12th, I believe. She's got something at X-Ray
00:51:14.810 --> 00:51:16.629
Arcade. We're going to be busy.
00:51:16.826 --> 00:51:22.120
Super. And then we're going to hibernate until New Year's. Yeah.
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.318
Or we won't. We'll probably find it. Oh, no, no, no. That's happening.
00:51:25.527 --> 00:51:27.010
No, you'll find something else to do.
00:51:27.350 --> 00:51:30.630
You always do. You'll get a bee in your bonnet and you'll be like,
00:51:30.630 --> 00:51:31.622
we're doing everything.
00:51:32.185 --> 00:51:34.090
And then you'll be like, oh, man, we're doing everything. And I'm like,
00:51:34.090 --> 00:51:34.970
yeah, we're doing everything.
00:51:35.860 --> 00:51:42.019
But that's what we're doing. Hey. We're long-winded and we didn't get killed by a tornado.
00:51:42.164 --> 00:51:46.630
Sam, I got to tell you, I am really excited to see you go on your trip.
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:51.707
I'm so terrified. It's really fantastic to see you flap your wings and do something on your own.
00:51:52.166 --> 00:51:57.239
And just really like go out and experience something on your lonesome, that's pretty amazing.
00:51:57.385 --> 00:52:01.430
Yeah. I mean, I like being alone. So it'll work. So I'm taking care of back
00:52:01.430 --> 00:52:04.763
here and I'm excited to try something different. So yeah.
00:52:05.929 --> 00:52:09.471
All right. We're going to miss next week. We won't be here next week because I will be gone.
00:52:09.656 --> 00:52:12.588
We'll see you in two weeks. Maybe I'll just scream into the void.
00:52:12.774 --> 00:52:14.530
You should actually. Yeah. Do one solo.
00:52:14.890 --> 00:52:17.750
What if I did one and I just pretended that you were here? You know what?
00:52:17.750 --> 00:52:20.980
I could actually do the invisible man and then just talk like you're here.
00:52:20.980 --> 00:52:23.842
We could just record it on, like, FaceTime.
00:52:25.110 --> 00:52:29.750
Yeah. For you on an island. Yeah. In a kayak. I'll send pictures.
00:52:30.843 --> 00:52:32.678
All right, guys. All right. Bye.