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Speaking Human. Today.
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On Speaking Human, we tip off a March Madness style
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bracket to crown the most cringe worthy pharmaceutical commercial, fitting
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heavyweights like Ozembic, Jardians, sky Rizzy, and hume Era against
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each other until only one champion remains.
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Specking Human.
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Welcome to Speaking Human, where we simplify the world of
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marketing for humans. I'm Shad Conmlely, and with me is
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my co host Patrick Jebber. How you doing there, Patrick.
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I'm here. I'm here, and I'm ready to smear. See
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what I did there? Smear the good names of the
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pharmaceutical companies.
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Yeah, yeah, this is very poetic. Yeah, you can tell
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you've taken your pharmaceuticals today.
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I have, Yeah, I have. It's a weird world of
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pharmaceutical companies out there, and I think anybody will agree
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this is an episode we probably should have done one
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hundred years ago.
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Yeah, any point in time or every episode could be pharmaceuticals. Nowadays,
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they're everywhere you, everywhere you turn.
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Yeah, all the skip this ad, those are all pharmaceuticals.
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Every time you go on to any of the freebie streamers.
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Now it's pharmaceuticals, and God forbid you watch the nightly news.
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Oh yeah, all.
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Pharmacutic I mean, that's their bread and butter. They're like
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the over sixty five crowd. They're gonna watch and we're
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gonna serve them.
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Here's what's pretty interesting. You know, I got a good
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trivia question for you. We've been talking about trivia over
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the last year or two. This was interesting. I didn't
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realize this when I looked it up. Outside of the
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United States, there's only one other country where you're likely
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to see prescription drug commercials marketed directly to consumers on TV.
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Do you know what country that is?
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I do? I do know this.
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Oh well that's not fair.
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Well, you know it's I know it's a little bit
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of a letdown, but one of those things, like in
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preparation for this episode, I just happen to come across.
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I don't want to take your thunder.
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No, I'm happy that you know it and I want
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you to show it.
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It is surprisingly, I think surprisingly to me. New Zealand. Yeah,
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not Old Zealand. New Zealand.
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Well, you know that's what makes them the appropriate answer
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for this, because you know their new age, they need medication.
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They need pharmaceutical companies to come to the rescue of
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their citizens, like the United States.
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Yeah, but everywhere else in the world they're like, that's fine,
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but you don't need to advertise that to people. They
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don't even need to push that on the consumers.
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Yeah, legally, I mean, maybe there's some illegal direct to
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consumer prescription drug advertising.
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But not the good kind, not the above the table kind.
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It made me realize that America loves two things, turning
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everything into entertainment and selling you things during that entertainment.
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It's a good point, I thought, and one of them
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was going to be like taking lots and lots of
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drugs and finding other things that can be solved by drugs.
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Right, solve all of all of your problems in life
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with a pill.
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Or creating new problems that can be solved by drugs.
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Right, it's going to solve the problem, but you might
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also have the side effects that are worse than what
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the drug fixes too.
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Always diarrhea.
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So why are we talking about pharmaceutical shad I mean.
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Oh really, I didn't even know that was the topic
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of today's show. It's so weird. But you know, we've
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arrived at spring, which we all know is the season
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of brackets, everywhere you look, people debating matchups, making picks,
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arguing over who advances. Where we're located the United States
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of America. Yeah so, yeah, I should have said that
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United States of America semi united. Another kind of competition
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that runs all year long, and that's pharmaceutical commercials. As
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you mentioned, Patrick, one of the only places in the
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world other than New Zealand, you're going to see commercials
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for pharmaceuticals on TV. And these ads, which, as we noted,
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are have become unavoidable, have a pretty specific vibe to them.
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The catchy jingles, the oddly joyful side effect disclaimers, the
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slow motion walks through the park. It's kind of become
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its own genre. Everybody's kind of parroting them because they
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have these certain hallmarks that are just president almost all
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of them. So we thought, why not lean into, you know,
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march madness and create our own sort of mini bracket,
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hitting some of the most memorable pharma ads of the
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past few years against each other to determine once and
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for all which one takes the crown as the catchiest
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and the cringiest.
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Yeah, so it'll be interesting.
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To see how we decide who's winning here. I'm not
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even sure how this is going to happen, but we'll
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kind of as we do, figure it out along the way.
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I guess.
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So we got four, right.
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Yeah, we've got four pretty you know, big time challengers.
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I would say here, well known brands.
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The first of which I think has probably been in
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the news the most lately, Ozempic.
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I'd agree with that.
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Yeah, yeah, the big oh oh oh, ozem Bik. We've
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got you heard me say this probably in the in
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the intro. But Jardians. We've got sky Rizzy, which has
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got a great name, sky Rizzy.
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That's probably my favorite name. And it's got risen it.
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Yeah. All the kids love the sky Rizzi nowadays they do.
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It's hot right now. Yeah, Humira is the fourth. Not
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as catchy names. Jardians and Humeira. They're struggling there in
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the name department.
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Yeah, not the best, you know, and you want a
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good name. At some point we'll do a separate episode
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on just like the best pharmaceutical names.
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Oh yeah, but this is not that episode. No, but
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you get the gist. They're all over the place and
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they're trying to create creative names that are different, unique,
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something that's memorable.
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Yeah. So we've got these four we're gonna match them up.
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We got two matchups to begin. We're gonna talk a
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little bit about each of these commercials and then make
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our pick to see who wins. Those winners will advance
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and play against each other. Then we're gonna end up
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with a champion here. So our first matchup, we've got
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ozempic versus Let's talk a little bit about this ozempic
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ad You already kind of alluded to the jingle a
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little bit. Yeah, oh oh oh o zempic playing off
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the nineteen seventy four song Magic by Pilot, which I
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think most people would recognize. Oh oh oh it's magic,
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you know, never believe it's not.
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So it's the thing you hear, You hear magic. But
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you're saying zempic, Oh oh oh ozempic. You know it's
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a strange earworm of sorts because you're hearing the other
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song that is, you know, pretty iconic in that way.
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Yeah, a brilliant marketing move to play off that. And
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you know, just okay, we already know this song is
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burrowed in people's heads. Let's just stick our the name
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of our drug, right, on.
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There and the commercial is like most of the pharmaceutical commercials,
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the formula is pretty close to each They're all pretty
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close to each other. You know, it's upbeat. There's these
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everyday people who are moving through somewhat of an ordinary
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life in a cheerful almost lifestyle ad. Like they're just
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they're doing things and the chorus is catchy.
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You know, they're playing miniature golf. Every once in a
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while you'll see like big red letters that say oh,
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or they'll say oh uh huh like oh, like they'll
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tell you a stat about a one C and then
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they'll be like oh.
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And they're just trying to basically make the medication name memorable, right,
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They're trying to swap out that hook with the name
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of the medication, the pharmaceutical drug.
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any of these commercials in a row, you get the
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formula they almost have to follow, where it's what is it,
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what are the benefits or what is it shown to be?
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What is studies shown that it has done or can
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help with? Yeah, and then you know you're twenty seconds
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of your one minute out of disclaimer for side effects.
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So those are kind of the things you're like hitting
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in a row that they all kind of have to
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do in some way.
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If you're lucky, it's twenty seconds. Usually it's like forty
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five seconds of a one thirty commercial. It's like half
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of yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It really monopolizes, so they got to keep things. It's
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funny how they play that too, Like this, this one
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is very bright and it's again a lot of the
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people miniature golfing, a lady walking with a water bottle.
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and you know, you just get these like bright happy
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images as they talk about all the you know, don't
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share needles, don't take if you're allergic to ozempic, which
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is always my favorite, Like, oh, I shouldn't do that, huh.
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Like you know ahead of time that you're allergic to it? Yeah,
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Like oh, should I know that I'm allergic to oz epic?
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Maybe I should. And it's hitting all types of different audiences, right,
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It's all over the spectrum of different types of people
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in different situations. Because they don't want anyone to feel
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like they're not the one who should be taking it right, So.
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They're trying to hit all of it everybody at once,
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and everybody's happy.
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is like this earworm quality to this one. Specifically for
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the ozonpic. I feel like they took that soft rock
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chorus and made it, you know, they turned it into
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a jingle essentially.
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you know, Humira also music related in some way or
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connected where that one we're going back and forth to
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sort of different people doing different things. This one's focused
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on just kind of one singular story, which is a
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little different. Here, we have a band playing in the
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studio and then suddenly, you know, the band stopped and
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the singer quickly walks away. Her bandmate's all looking concerned.
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I was just not always where I needed to be,
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this case Crohn's disease, it s alluded she's you know,
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running to the bathroom. You know, she can't make the
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music because she's always got to go to the bathroom.
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Then we're in a concert and the band's just standing there,
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and one of the band members like saying to another person,
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like she all right, and the crowd's just all standing
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there waiting. I don't know why the band's not just
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like playing a little something. Everybody's just like standing. They're like,
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oh my god, what do we do?
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Yeah, they clearly don't have the expertise to say we
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should just keep playing. She'll come back. We'll play it
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off like we'll do a jam session, right.
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you know, she steps on stage, she raised her hand,
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she smiles, and then we hear about all the benefits
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of humyraor and of course the side effects too. But
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it's a good time. Everybody. The crowd's happy. Everybody smiled.
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The band piles back in there win a bago. It's great,
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and I think we ended we see him like playing
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a theater and things seem to be going a lot
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better for them. Things have changed for the band because
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of Humeira.
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I think what best describes this pharma commercial is a
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Reddit comment from a commenter Soviet Shooter. He says, how
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the hell do they book any gigs knowing there's a
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fifty to fifty chance their singer will no show because
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of a never ending series of asplosions. And I thought,
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you know, like this is this is the thing people
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recognize how absurd I mean, and I get it, like
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it is describing a real condition that people who have
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crones deal with, you know, like their stomach's are wreck
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and they have to go. Yeah, they have to go
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from whatever situation they're in. The fact that they picked
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the lead singer of a band to show that it's tough.
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she's always running off stage or out of the studio
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because she's you know, crapping her pants.
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it wasn't a board meeting. It wasn't you know, something
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like I'm in the car with my kids and I
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need to find in the restroom. They're like, let's do
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the scenario where it's a rock band. I could just
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hear them in the like a conference room coming up
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with this ad spot and they're like, and it'll be
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like the lead singer, but we need to make them
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like young, so like young people get it that they're
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They could also have crones.
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biggest stage. What's interesting too, when you really think about it,
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is you know, we're having this problem in the studio.
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It's like, hey, she's running out in the studio. You
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know we should do Let's go on tour.
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It's very true. They could have probably all of the
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problem by just you know, Hey, let's get you situated first.
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Let's figure out what's going on. Yeah, then we'll go out.
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We'll get the krones settled down, and then we'll figure
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out the tour. But your health is most important now.
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They're like, let's just go. If we have some awkward
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pauses on stage, it'll be fine.
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People will understand.
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I don't know why they're going to the show though
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they have like an unrecorded album.
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They never got to record the album. They're like, success
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does not wait. We need to go.
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The people want to hear this music they've never.
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Heard so Humira an ozempic.
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Yeah, what's our criteria here for who is winning? You know, like,
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how are you thinking about this?
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I'm thinking about this in two ways. One is the
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memorableness of it, and then I'm also thinking about if
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we're talking about cringe, you know, we have to think
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of the cringe factor. I will say Ozempics is less cringey.
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It's more memorable, but it's less cringey.
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Yeah, it's it wins catchy, right, but it doesn't win cringey.
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The problem with the Humeira though, is like it's not
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as memorable, but also like it's got a lot of
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things that sort of heard it. In this matchup, I
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think I would probably side with ozepic because it's got
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the jingle. It still has some cringe with the weird
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situations that they're in and stuff like that, but it's
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not quite to the level of hume Era. But the
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catchiness and the jingle and the earworm quality of it
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makes it feel like it comes out on top.
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Yeah, I think you're right. I almost don't want. I
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like the hum Era a little better in that it's
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a story and it's kind of clearer, uh huh, and
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it's funnier to me. Yeah, it is funnier in that way.
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But I do think the ozempic is just a little
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more dominant. You know, it's kind of just playing the
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marketing hits, and that makes me want to push away
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from it, but I can't deny it, you know what
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I mean. It has a familiar catchy song, it's banging
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on the name, it's using almost stock like images. It
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is if you're like parrotying a pharmaceutical commercial. This is
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like the prototype for sure. So in that way, it's
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almost like it just wins by default in some ways,
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you know what I mean.
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Yeah, I would say I would give this too. Is
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that big?
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Yeah? I think it's going forward. Let's move on to
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our next matchup.
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Yeah, and the next one is Jardians and sky Rizzy.
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So Jardians is an interesting little turn on your classic
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pharma commercial in that it immediately, you know, takes off
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like a musical. We start on a city block with
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several women outside of building just busting into song. You know,
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I have type two diabetes, but I manage as well.
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It's a little kill with a big story to tell.
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I take one's daily jardience, you know, clearly lip syncing,
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dancing around as they're singing on the city street. There's
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like a crossing guard there too, you know. And then
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we cut away and now the singer is at the park.
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Everything's very bright and colorful. We even get like an
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overhead shot and you can see the choreography of people,
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you know, moving in sync. It almost looks like where
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people were in the ozembic Ad. You know, it almost
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looks like they're using the same sets in some sense.
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Oh yeah, or at least the same cinematography or something.
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This lady's singing. Then the local mailman walks by and
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starts telling us the benefits of Jardians as he dances
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with the singer. Then things is where things get a
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little weird. There's kind of a moment of twist where
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we kind of pull back and we see a camera
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and like production crew that is recording this whole musical scene.
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So now it's like a wall has been broken. The
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music doesn't stop, the singing and dancing stops. The singer's
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kind of like, you know, steps off out of the scene.
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People start kind of gabbing, and we're at the same point.
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We're getting all the side effects and stuff like that.
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We started out on this musical and then we kind
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of stepped behind the scenes of it, and now we're
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to seeing these people who I assume are in real
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life taking this product. I don't know. It's a real
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twist where they like pulled back the veil. You know,
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it's like a meta element in there.
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It broke the fourth wall.
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They did in like a way that I was like
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almost jarring. I was like, Oh, what are we doing here?
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Yeah, Like, this is not a lady who's just excited
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about taking Jardians. It's a lady who's singing and talking
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about liking Jardians. But she's part of a musical number
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slash dance number that is promoting Jardians on purpose.
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But in real life, she's a person who is taking Jardians.
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I think.
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Yeah, like you're showing us how exciting it is and
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what you're capable of when you're on Jardians.
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Yeah, it gave you all the familiar elements, but a
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different formula here. But again still the same bright colors,
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the you know, cheeriness. We're still singing about lowering a
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one C. So that's a lot of the same stuff.
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It's just we kind of packaged it a little bit different.
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You know, somebody like I'm gonna try something different with
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this script.
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They definitely get creative with them as much as they can, right, Yeah,
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you're right, there's always this cheerfulness to them in the
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sky Rizzy. But it's a bright, glossy pharma ad, right,
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it's the same kind of situation. They're sunshine, yeah, sunshine,
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cheerful people out in the world doing normal, everyday kind
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of care free lifestyle. Stuff. Starts off with a woman
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on a bicycle. She's on a mountain bike. She puts
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on her helmet and she's ride with looks like might
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be a significant other. Then there's like a guy and
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a little girl there, he's blown bubbles, you know, people driving.
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And here's what it is about this commercial. What stands
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out the most is the yep right. Unlike Ozempics ad,
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which borrowed from the older hit song, sky Rizzy's campaign
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uses this original song nothing is Everything. And this is
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what's funny about it, you know, like it's the reason
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why people remember the ad. I think, or would remember
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the ad, you know, because the user reactions out there
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are mostly on how catchy the tune is, and they're
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focused on that versus the medical details. It turns symptom
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free skin into a feel good anthem because they're saying
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nothing meaning you know, your clear skin, it's visible from
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flare ups is everything? Right, weird? Nothing is everything, but
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you know.
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It's a hilarious it almost seems like a joke title.
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It does, but it makes it.
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It does make sense in the way they're using it.
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Yeah, the same kind of thing people in their everyday
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lives dealing with this this struggle and sky Rizzy is
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going to solve that struggle. So it's got the jingle
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going for it, which is the catchiness. It's got the
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name sky Rizzy. If we're comparing the two. Here's my
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problem is that sky Rizzy definitely feels like it should
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come out on top. But Jardians is so crazy. I
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don't know, something so weird and awkward about Jardians that
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I'm like, I kind of want to pick it solely
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for this. I don't like the lyrics. I don't like
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anything about it. I think it's very strange and just awkward.
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You know, where she comes out, she's like standing on
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the stairs and she's singing in the Jardians Commercially, You're like,
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these lyrics just don't make me feel good.
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It's not like, you know, nothing is everything which has lyrics,
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Like things are getting clearer. Yeah, I feel free to
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bare my skin. Yeah that's all me.
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Yeah, that's I mean. But when it's so and it's
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not the person on screen singing it and it's just
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this like ethereal song that's playing, I think it's a
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little easier to digest or to consume.
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I agree with you, sky Rizzy. I liked that they
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did the song, and I like that it's really like
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a if you just heard it off hand, you'd be like,
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that's any pop song on the radio, Yeah, you know,
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and it's almost I was thinking I was watching. I
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was like, you know, it would be a good idea
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if somebody did like a eighty sitcom theme song or
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something and like made the commercial kind of to be
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like that for one of these Yeah, like that could
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be more you know, memorable. My problem with the sky
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Rizzy is they have this song. I wish they would
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have done something a little more visually interesting to go
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with it, or a little something a little different. I
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liked the Nothing is Everything, and I think it's kind
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of funny. The commercial itself is visually kind of lame.
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Yeah, if the visuals were better, I think sky Rizzy
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could probably take the crown there in this matchup.
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But Jardians Thid is a little more off the wall
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and the a twist here is just it's kind of bizarre, unnecessary,
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But I like that they did it. It makes it
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different than the other ones.
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Yeah, that's the thing that that was the creativity there
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that I think took it over the edge. You know,
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like you said, you pull back the curtain and you're like,
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what's happening now? That combined with the severe awkwardness of
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the lyrics of that one. It's like in her singing
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and she's got you know, it's just it's just very weird.
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Her eye contact is also very strange with the camera
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the whole time.
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Yeah. Yeah, you feel like it's a little intense on you.
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There's a lot of parts of it that just make
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you uncomfortable, which is another reason I think it needs
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to advance before we eliminate sky Rizzy. Here, I'll tell
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you a quick sky Rizzy story about how deep these
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ads are getting in our culture. I think it was
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a couple of years ago, probably when my kids were
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even younger. We were out to eat one time and
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they were like fighting at dinner and my son said
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to me, my daughter or something along the lines of,
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you have moderate severe plaxoriasis. You need to get some
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sky Rizzy.
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Oh man, you should pick you should pick sky Rizzy
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just for that reason.
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It's thought it was hilarious, but it was like, where
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did that even come from? And it's just like, you know,
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these online ads are just seeping into their brains right.
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Picking up a few of like the comments that have
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come up, and there were a couple that stood out
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to me. One was from a deleted commenter of the
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Jardians m h and they said the part where she
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is dancing lives in my nightmares.
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That's accurate.
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I mean it is right like it does feel almost
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like it should be a horror movie. And then there
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was a Narwal's Galore that said that fucking song lives
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for rent free in my head and I can't make
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it stop. I don't know why that song is as
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catchy to them, you know, the sky rich Ones probably
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a little bit better in terms of song quality anyway.
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Yeah, I always like to hear from the people. So
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then we head into you know, our final matchup. We're
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left with Ozempic oh oh oh Ozempic and Jardians the
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type two diabetes musical metamusical. This is uh, this is
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the tough one putting these two together, which are the
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same but different.
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M M.
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They're very much the same but different. And here's the thing.
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One is much more cringey than the other one. One
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is much more catchy than the other one.
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And the other one.
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Yeah, it's a tough one. And I will say I
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would have to probably side with Ketchi over the Cringey,
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even though the Cringey is a funnier win. But Ketche
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is like this thing where I only had to hear
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the ozempic one once and it's been stuck in my
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head for a couple of days now.
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Yeah, it's a tough beat the marketing side of me.
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You know, you kind of like revert back to it. Yeah,
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the Jardiance one. For as much as it gives you
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for like the interesting pieces of it, you don't necessarily
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leave it remembering what the actual medication was, right, or
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what it does, you know, I mean, that's not stuck
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in your brain. You're just like that was weird and uncomfortable,
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kind of interesting. But in a week somebody's like, what
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was that for? I don't know if I'll remember Jardians
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And part of that comes back to just the name, right,
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But it's also the you know, the treatment.
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Yeah, the treatment. It does lose site a little bit
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of what it does. It maybe has more focus on
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the side effects than what it actually solves. I'm solely
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focused on the dance number that's strangely happening in this
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little town and not what the product is.
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Yeah, it gets lost in there a little bit. You're right,
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o Zepic. I mean, they're just basically showing you stock imagery.
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But all the money they paid, whatever they paid to
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license that song was worth it a thousandfold.
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Yeah, because everybody goes around singing that song after they
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see that ad.
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You know what I mean, You're oddly like now, I
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want to walk on the streets with my water bottle
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and go play miniature golf. That's all I want to do.
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I need a weight loss drug.
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It's a tough beat. I mean, it's just it's a dominator.
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Mm hmm. I think the winner is Ozempic.
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Yeah, the winner is Ozempic. Sorry Jardians, but you have
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the you know, pride knowing you were the runner up,
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and you're probably the cringiest one of all.
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I'll give it to mister Squirrel who said the commercials
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make puppies seem sad and I want the company to
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die in a dumpster fire for crimes against humanity.
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This is all pharma ads.
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I think he's talking about these ozempic commercials. Maybe there's
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more than one.
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Oh okay, yeah.
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This is the thing that I will I would leave
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people with, is that there's a lot of these out there.
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So if you are online at all, if you've ever
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watched television at all, you know what we're talking about.
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Here's the thing. If I'm going to give you a
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little takeaway, Okay, I would say, I think what this
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proves is that the true champion of pharma commercials and
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pharma commercial march madness isn't just one ad. It's the
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entire formula. You know, We're taking one catchy song, add
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some smiling people in a park, sprinkle in a terrifying
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list of side effects, and boom instant brand recall. Right,
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like ozempic. You are remembering that name for all time
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because of that. And these ads make us cringe. But
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they also prove that in marketing, annoying and effective are
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sometimes disturbingly close.
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Cousins well said, that is that is very well said,
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and I would you know tag on there. Obviously, the
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heavy use of music in all these there's a key
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key player in how they're banging these nails into your
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brain a little bit.
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Yea.
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The only other thing I can add to that really
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is nothing is everything.
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And sometimes everything is nothing. Damn right, dam Well, that's
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it for today's episode. You can find current and past
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Speaking Human.
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Warning, listening to this episode may cause earworms, bracket related delusions,
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aggressive eyebrolling, spontaneous yelling at your television during commercial breaks,
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and diarrhea,
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Speaking Human. Today.
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On Speaking Human, we tip off a March Madness style
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bracket to crown the most cringe worthy pharmaceutical commercial, fitting
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heavyweights like Ozembic, Jardians, sky Rizzy, and hume Era against
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each other until only one champion remains.
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Specking Human.
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Welcome to Speaking Human, where we simplify the world of
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marketing for humans. I'm Shad Conmlely, and with me is
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my co host Patrick Jebber. How you doing there, Patrick.
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I'm here. I'm here, and I'm ready to smear. See
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what I did there? Smear the good names of the
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pharmaceutical companies.
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Yeah, yeah, this is very poetic. Yeah, you can tell
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you've taken your pharmaceuticals today.
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I have, Yeah, I have. It's a weird world of
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pharmaceutical companies out there, and I think anybody will agree
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this is an episode we probably should have done one
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hundred years ago.
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Yeah, any point in time or every episode could be pharmaceuticals. Nowadays,
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they're everywhere you, everywhere you turn.
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Yeah, all the skip this ad, those are all pharmaceuticals.
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Every time you go on to any of the freebie streamers.
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Now it's pharmaceuticals, and God forbid you watch the nightly news.
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Oh yeah, all.
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Pharmacutic I mean, that's their bread and butter. They're like
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the over sixty five crowd. They're gonna watch and we're
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gonna serve them.
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Here's what's pretty interesting. You know, I got a good
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trivia question for you. We've been talking about trivia over
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the last year or two. This was interesting. I didn't
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realize this when I looked it up. Outside of the
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United States, there's only one other country where you're likely
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to see prescription drug commercials marketed directly to consumers on TV.
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Do you know what country that is?
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I do? I do know this.
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Oh well that's not fair.
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Well, you know it's I know it's a little bit
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of a letdown, but one of those things, like in
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preparation for this episode, I just happen to come across.
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I don't want to take your thunder.
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No, I'm happy that you know it and I want
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you to show it.
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It is surprisingly, I think surprisingly to me. New Zealand. Yeah,
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not Old Zealand. New Zealand.
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Well, you know that's what makes them the appropriate answer
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for this, because you know their new age, they need medication.
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They need pharmaceutical companies to come to the rescue of
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their citizens, like the United States.
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Yeah, but everywhere else in the world they're like, that's fine,
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but you don't need to advertise that to people. They
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don't even need to push that on the consumers.
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Yeah, legally, I mean, maybe there's some illegal direct to
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consumer prescription drug advertising.
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But not the good kind, not the above the table kind.
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It made me realize that America loves two things, turning
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everything into entertainment and selling you things during that entertainment.
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It's a good point, I thought, and one of them
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was going to be like taking lots and lots of
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drugs and finding other things that can be solved by drugs.
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Right, solve all of all of your problems in life
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with a pill.
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Or creating new problems that can be solved by drugs.
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Right, it's going to solve the problem, but you might
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also have the side effects that are worse than what
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the drug fixes too.
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So why are we talking about pharmaceutical shad I mean.
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Oh really, I didn't even know that was the topic
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of today's show. It's so weird. But you know, we've
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arrived at spring, which we all know is the season
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of brackets, everywhere you look, people debating matchups, making picks,
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arguing over who advances. Where we're located the United States
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of America. Yeah so, yeah, I should have said that
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United States of America semi united. Another kind of competition
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that runs all year long, and that's pharmaceutical commercials. As
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you mentioned, Patrick, one of the only places in the
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world other than New Zealand, you're going to see commercials
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for pharmaceuticals on TV. And these ads, which, as we noted,
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are have become unavoidable, have a pretty specific vibe to them.
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slow motion walks through the park. It's kind of become
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its own genre. Everybody's kind of parroting them because they
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have these certain hallmarks that are just president almost all
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of them. So we thought, why not lean into, you know,
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march madness and create our own sort of mini bracket,
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hitting some of the most memorable pharma ads of the
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past few years against each other to determine once and
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for all which one takes the crown as the catchiest
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and the cringiest.
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Yeah, so it'll be interesting.
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To see how we decide who's winning here. I'm not
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even sure how this is going to happen, but we'll
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kind of as we do, figure it out along the way.
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So we got four, right.
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The first of which I think has probably been in
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the news the most lately, Ozempic.
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I'd agree with that.
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Yeah, yeah, the big oh oh oh, ozem Bik. We've
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got you heard me say this probably in the in
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the intro. But Jardians. We've got sky Rizzy, which has
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got a great name, sky Rizzy.
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That's probably my favorite name. And it's got risen it.
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Yeah. All the kids love the sky Rizzi nowadays they do.
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It's hot right now. Yeah, Humira is the fourth. Not
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as catchy names. Jardians and Humeira. They're struggling there in
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the name department.
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Yeah, not the best, you know, and you want a
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good name. At some point we'll do a separate episode
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on just like the best pharmaceutical names.
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Oh yeah, but this is not that episode. No, but
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you get the gist. They're all over the place and
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they're trying to create creative names that are different, unique,
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something that's memorable.
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We got two matchups to begin. We're gonna talk a
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little bit about each of these commercials and then make
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our pick to see who wins. Those winners will advance
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and play against each other. Then we're gonna end up
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with a champion here. So our first matchup, we've got
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ozempic versus Let's talk a little bit about this ozempic
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ad You already kind of alluded to the jingle a
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little bit. Yeah, oh oh oh o zempic playing off
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the nineteen seventy four song Magic by Pilot, which I
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think most people would recognize. Oh oh oh it's magic,
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you know, never believe it's not.
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So it's the thing you hear, You hear magic. But
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you're saying zempic, Oh oh oh ozempic. You know it's
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a strange earworm of sorts because you're hearing the other
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song that is, you know, pretty iconic in that way.
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Yeah, a brilliant marketing move to play off that. And
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you know, just okay, we already know this song is
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burrowed in people's heads. Let's just stick our the name
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of our drug, right, on.
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the formula is pretty close to each They're all pretty
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close to each other. You know, it's upbeat. There's these
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everyday people who are moving through somewhat of an ordinary
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life in a cheerful almost lifestyle ad. Like they're just
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they're doing things and the chorus is catchy.
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You know, they're playing miniature golf. Every once in a
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while you'll see like big red letters that say oh,
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or they'll say oh uh huh like oh, like they'll
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tell you a stat about a one C and then
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they'll be like oh.
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And they're just trying to basically make the medication name memorable, right,
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They're trying to swap out that hook with the name
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of the medication, the pharmaceutical drug.
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Yeah. And you watch these, you know, if you watch
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any of these commercials in a row, you get the
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formula they almost have to follow, where it's what is it,
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what are the benefits or what is it shown to be?
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What is studies shown that it has done or can
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help with? Yeah, and then you know you're twenty seconds
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of your one minute out of disclaimer for side effects.
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So those are kind of the things you're like hitting
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in a row that they all kind of have to
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do in some way.
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If you're lucky, it's twenty seconds. Usually it's like forty
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five seconds of a one thirty commercial. It's like half
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of yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It really monopolizes, so they got to keep things. It's
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funny how they play that too, Like this, this one
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is very bright and it's again a lot of the
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people miniature golfing, a lady walking with a water bottle.
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There's like a mechanic putting an engine in a car. Yeah,
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and you know, you just get these like bright happy
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images as they talk about all the you know, don't
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share needles, don't take if you're allergic to ozempic, which
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is always my favorite, Like, oh, I shouldn't do that, huh.
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Like you know ahead of time that you're allergic to it? Yeah,
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Like oh, should I know that I'm allergic to oz epic?
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Maybe I should. And it's hitting all types of different audiences, right,
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It's all over the spectrum of different types of people
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in different situations. Because they don't want anyone to feel
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like they're not the one who should be taking it right, So.
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They're trying to hit all of it everybody at once,
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and everybody's happy.
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is like this earworm quality to this one. Specifically for
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the ozonpic. I feel like they took that soft rock
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chorus and made it, you know, they turned it into
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a jingle essentially.
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Yeah, they really wrote it. So we got another one,
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you know, Humira also music related in some way or
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connected where that one we're going back and forth to
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sort of different people doing different things. This one's focused
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on just kind of one singular story, which is a
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little different. Here, we have a band playing in the
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studio and then suddenly, you know, the band stopped and
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the singer quickly walks away. Her bandmate's all looking concerned.
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Then we get the kind of voiceover that was like
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I was just not always where I needed to be,
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this case Crohn's disease, it s alluded she's you know,
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running to the bathroom. You know, she can't make the
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music because she's always got to go to the bathroom.
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Then we're in a concert and the band's just standing there,
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and one of the band members like saying to another person,
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like she all right, and the crowd's just all standing
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there waiting. I don't know why the band's not just
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like playing a little something. Everybody's just like standing. They're like,
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oh my god, what do we do?
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Yeah, they clearly don't have the expertise to say we
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should just keep playing. She'll come back. We'll play it
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off like we'll do a jam session, right.
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Yeah, pretend like it's part of the show. But then she,
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you know, she steps on stage, she raised her hand,
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she smiles, and then we hear about all the benefits
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of humyraor and of course the side effects too. But
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it's a good time. Everybody. The crowd's happy. Everybody smiled.
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The band piles back in there win a bago. It's great,
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and I think we ended we see him like playing
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a theater and things seem to be going a lot
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better for them. Things have changed for the band because
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of Humeira.
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I think what best describes this pharma commercial is a
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Reddit comment from a commenter Soviet Shooter. He says, how
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the hell do they book any gigs knowing there's a
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fifty to fifty chance their singer will no show because
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of a never ending series of asplosions. And I thought,
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you know, like this is this is the thing people
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recognize how absurd I mean, and I get it, like
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it is describing a real condition that people who have
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crones deal with, you know, like their stomach's are wreck
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and they have to go. Yeah, they have to go
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from whatever situation they're in. The fact that they picked
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the lead singer of a band to show that it's tough.
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she's always running off stage or out of the studio
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because she's you know, crapping her pants.
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it wasn't a board meeting. It wasn't you know, something
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like I'm in the car with my kids and I
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need to find in the restroom. They're like, let's do
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the scenario where it's a rock band. I could just
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hear them in the like a conference room coming up
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with this ad spot and they're like, and it'll be
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like the lead singer, but we need to make them
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like young, so like young people get it that they're
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They could also have crones.
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biggest stage. What's interesting too, when you really think about it,
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is you know, we're having this problem in the studio.
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It's like, hey, she's running out in the studio. You
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know we should do Let's go on tour.
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It's very true. They could have probably all of the
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problem by just you know, Hey, let's get you situated first.
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Let's figure out what's going on. Yeah, then we'll go out.
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We'll get the krones settled down, and then we'll figure
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out the tour. But your health is most important now.
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They're like, let's just go. If we have some awkward
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pauses on stage, it'll be fine.
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People will understand.
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I don't know why they're going to the show though
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they have like an unrecorded album.
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They never got to record the album. They're like, success
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does not wait. We need to go.
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The people want to hear this music they've never.
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Heard so Humira an ozempic.
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Yeah, what's our criteria here for who is winning? You know, like,
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how are you thinking about this?
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I'm thinking about this in two ways. One is the
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memorableness of it, and then I'm also thinking about if
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we're talking about cringe, you know, we have to think
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of the cringe factor. I will say Ozempics is less cringey.
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It's more memorable, but it's less cringey.
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Yeah, it's it wins catchy, right, but it doesn't win cringey.
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The problem with the Humeira though, is like it's not
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as memorable, but also like it's got a lot of
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things that sort of heard it. In this matchup, I
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think I would probably side with ozepic because it's got
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the jingle. It still has some cringe with the weird
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situations that they're in and stuff like that, but it's
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not quite to the level of hume Era. But the
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catchiness and the jingle and the earworm quality of it
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makes it feel like it comes out on top.
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Yeah, I think you're right. I almost don't want. I
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like the hum Era a little better in that it's
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a story and it's kind of clearer, uh huh, and
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it's funnier to me. Yeah, it is funnier in that way.
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more dominant. You know, it's kind of just playing the
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marketing hits, and that makes me want to push away
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from it, but I can't deny it, you know what
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I mean. It has a familiar catchy song, it's banging
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on the name, it's using almost stock like images. It
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is if you're like parrotying a pharmaceutical commercial. This is
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like the prototype for sure. So in that way, it's
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almost like it just wins by default in some ways,
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you know what I mean.
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that big?
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Yeah? I think it's going forward. Let's move on to
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our next matchup.
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Yeah, and the next one is Jardians and sky Rizzy.
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So Jardians is an interesting little turn on your classic
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pharma commercial in that it immediately, you know, takes off
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like a musical. We start on a city block with
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several women outside of building just busting into song. You know,
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I have type two diabetes, but I manage as well.
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It's a little kill with a big story to tell.
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I take one's daily jardience, you know, clearly lip syncing,
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dancing around as they're singing on the city street. There's
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like a crossing guard there too, you know. And then
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we cut away and now the singer is at the park.
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Everything's very bright and colorful. We even get like an
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overhead shot and you can see the choreography of people,
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you know, moving in sync. It almost looks like where
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people were in the ozembic Ad. You know, it almost
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looks like they're using the same sets in some sense.
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Oh yeah, or at least the same cinematography or something.
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This lady's singing. Then the local mailman walks by and
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starts telling us the benefits of Jardians as he dances
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with the singer. Then things is where things get a
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little weird. There's kind of a moment of twist where
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we kind of pull back and we see a camera
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and like production crew that is recording this whole musical scene.
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So now it's like a wall has been broken. The
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music doesn't stop, the singing and dancing stops. The singer's
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kind of like, you know, steps off out of the scene.
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People start kind of gabbing, and we're at the same point.
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We're getting all the side effects and stuff like that.
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We started out on this musical and then we kind
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of stepped behind the scenes of it, and now we're
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to seeing these people who I assume are in real
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life taking this product. I don't know. It's a real
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twist where they like pulled back the veil. You know,
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it's like a meta element in there.
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It broke the fourth wall.
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They did in like a way that I was like
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almost jarring. I was like, Oh, what are we doing here?
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about taking Jardians. It's a lady who's singing and talking
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about liking Jardians. But she's part of a musical number
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slash dance number that is promoting Jardians on purpose.
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But in real life, she's a person who is taking Jardians.
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I think.
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Yeah, like you're showing us how exciting it is and
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what you're capable of when you're on Jardians.
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Yeah, it gave you all the familiar elements, but a
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different formula here. But again still the same bright colors,
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the you know, cheeriness. We're still singing about lowering a
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one C. So that's a lot of the same stuff.
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It's just we kind of packaged it a little bit different.
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You know, somebody like I'm gonna try something different with
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this script.
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They definitely get creative with them as much as they can, right, Yeah,
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you're right, there's always this cheerfulness to them in the
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sky Rizzy. But it's a bright, glossy pharma ad, right,
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it's the same kind of situation. They're sunshine, yeah, sunshine,
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cheerful people out in the world doing normal, everyday kind
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of care free lifestyle. Stuff. Starts off with a woman
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on a bicycle. She's on a mountain bike. She puts
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on her helmet and she's ride with looks like might
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be a significant other. Then there's like a guy and
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a little girl there, he's blown bubbles, you know, people driving.
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And here's what it is about this commercial. What stands
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out the most is the yep right. Unlike Ozempics ad,
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which borrowed from the older hit song, sky Rizzy's campaign
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uses this original song nothing is Everything. And this is
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what's funny about it, you know, like it's the reason
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why people remember the ad. I think, or would remember
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the ad, you know, because the user reactions out there
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are mostly on how catchy the tune is, and they're
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focused on that versus the medical details. It turns symptom
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free skin into a feel good anthem because they're saying
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nothing meaning you know, your clear skin, it's visible from
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flare ups is everything? Right, weird? Nothing is everything, but
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you know.
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It's a hilarious it almost seems like a joke title.
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It does, but it makes it.
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It does make sense in the way they're using it.
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Yeah, the same kind of thing people in their everyday
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lives dealing with this this struggle and sky Rizzy is
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going to solve that struggle. So it's got the jingle
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going for it, which is the catchiness. It's got the
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name sky Rizzy. If we're comparing the two. Here's my
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problem is that sky Rizzy definitely feels like it should
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come out on top. But Jardians is so crazy. I
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don't know, something so weird and awkward about Jardians that
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I'm like, I kind of want to pick it solely
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for this. I don't like the lyrics. I don't like
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anything about it. I think it's very strange and just awkward.
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You know, where she comes out, she's like standing on
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the stairs and she's singing in the Jardians Commercially, You're like,
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these lyrics just don't make me feel good.
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It's not like, you know, nothing is everything which has lyrics,
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Like things are getting clearer. Yeah, I feel free to
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bare my skin. Yeah that's all me.
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Yeah, that's I mean. But when it's so and it's
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not the person on screen singing it and it's just
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this like ethereal song that's playing, I think it's a
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little easier to digest or to consume.
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did the song, and I like that it's really like
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a if you just heard it off hand, you'd be like,
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that's any pop song on the radio, Yeah, you know,
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and it's almost I was thinking I was watching. I
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was like, you know, it would be a good idea
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if somebody did like a eighty sitcom theme song or
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something and like made the commercial kind of to be
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like that for one of these Yeah, like that could
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be more you know, memorable. My problem with the sky
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Rizzy is they have this song. I wish they would
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have done something a little more visually interesting to go
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with it, or a little something a little different. I
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liked the Nothing is Everything, and I think it's kind
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of funny. The commercial itself is visually kind of lame.
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Yeah, if the visuals were better, I think sky Rizzy
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could probably take the crown there in this matchup.
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But Jardians Thid is a little more off the wall
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and the a twist here is just it's kind of bizarre, unnecessary,
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But I like that they did it. It makes it
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different than the other ones.
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Yeah, that's the thing that that was the creativity there
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that I think took it over the edge. You know,
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like you said, you pull back the curtain and you're like,
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what's happening now? That combined with the severe awkwardness of
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the lyrics of that one. It's like in her singing
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and she's got you know, it's just it's just very weird.
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Her eye contact is also very strange with the camera
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the whole time.
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Yeah. Yeah, you feel like it's a little intense on you.
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There's a lot of parts of it that just make
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you uncomfortable, which is another reason I think it needs
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to advance before we eliminate sky Rizzy. Here, I'll tell
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you a quick sky Rizzy story about how deep these
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ads are getting in our culture. I think it was
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a couple of years ago, probably when my kids were
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even younger. We were out to eat one time and
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they were like fighting at dinner and my son said
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to me, my daughter or something along the lines of,
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you have moderate severe plaxoriasis. You need to get some
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sky Rizzy.
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Oh man, you should pick you should pick sky Rizzy
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just for that reason.
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It's thought it was hilarious, but it was like, where
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did that even come from? And it's just like, you know,
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these online ads are just seeping into their brains right.
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Picking up a few of like the comments that have
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come up, and there were a couple that stood out
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to me. One was from a deleted commenter of the
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Jardians m h and they said the part where she
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is dancing lives in my nightmares.
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That's accurate.
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I mean it is right like it does feel almost
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like it should be a horror movie. And then there
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was a Narwal's Galore that said that fucking song lives
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for rent free in my head and I can't make
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it stop. I don't know why that song is as
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catchy to them, you know, the sky rich Ones probably
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a little bit better in terms of song quality anyway.
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Yeah, I always like to hear from the people. So
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then we head into you know, our final matchup. We're
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left with Ozempic oh oh oh Ozempic and Jardians the
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type two diabetes musical metamusical. This is uh, this is
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the tough one putting these two together, which are the
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same but different.
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M M.
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They're very much the same but different. And here's the thing.
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One is much more cringey than the other one. One
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is much more catchy than the other one.
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And the other one.
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Yeah, it's a tough one. And I will say I
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would have to probably side with Ketchi over the Cringey,
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even though the Cringey is a funnier win. But Ketche
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is like this thing where I only had to hear
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the ozempic one once and it's been stuck in my
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head for a couple of days now.
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Yeah, it's a tough beat the marketing side of me.
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You know, you kind of like revert back to it. Yeah,
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the Jardiance one. For as much as it gives you
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for like the interesting pieces of it, you don't necessarily
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leave it remembering what the actual medication was, right, or
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what it does, you know, I mean, that's not stuck
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in your brain. You're just like that was weird and uncomfortable,
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kind of interesting. But in a week somebody's like, what
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was that for? I don't know if I'll remember Jardians
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And part of that comes back to just the name, right,
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But it's also the you know, the treatment.
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Yeah, the treatment. It does lose site a little bit
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of what it does. It maybe has more focus on
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the side effects than what it actually solves. I'm solely
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focused on the dance number that's strangely happening in this
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little town and not what the product is.
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Yeah, it gets lost in there a little bit. You're right,
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o Zepic. I mean, they're just basically showing you stock imagery.
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But all the money they paid, whatever they paid to
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license that song was worth it a thousandfold.
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Yeah, because everybody goes around singing that song after they
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see that ad.
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You know what I mean, You're oddly like now, I
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want to walk on the streets with my water bottle
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and go play miniature golf. That's all I want to do.
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I need a weight loss drug.
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It's a tough beat. I mean, it's just it's a dominator.
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Mm hmm. I think the winner is Ozempic.
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Yeah, the winner is Ozempic. Sorry Jardians, but you have
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the you know, pride knowing you were the runner up,
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and you're probably the cringiest one of all.
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I'll give it to mister Squirrel who said the commercials
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make puppies seem sad and I want the company to
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die in a dumpster fire for crimes against humanity.
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This is all pharma ads.
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I think he's talking about these ozempic commercials. Maybe there's
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more than one.
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Oh okay, yeah.
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This is the thing that I will I would leave
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people with, is that there's a lot of these out there.
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So if you are online at all, if you've ever
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watched television at all, you know what we're talking about.
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Here's the thing. If I'm going to give you a
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little takeaway, Okay, I would say, I think what this
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proves is that the true champion of pharma commercials and
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pharma commercial march madness isn't just one ad. It's the
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entire formula. You know, We're taking one catchy song, add
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some smiling people in a park, sprinkle in a terrifying
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list of side effects, and boom instant brand recall. Right,
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like ozempic. You are remembering that name for all time
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because of that. And these ads make us cringe. But
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they also prove that in marketing, annoying and effective are
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sometimes disturbingly close.
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Cousins well said, that is that is very well said,
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and I would you know tag on there. Obviously, the
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heavy use of music in all these there's a key
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key player in how they're banging these nails into your
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brain a little bit.
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Yea.
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The only other thing I can add to that really
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is nothing is everything.
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And sometimes everything is nothing. Damn right, dam Well, that's
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it for today's episode. You can find current and past
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