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The position coach for Nick emn Wari, the secondary coach
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at South Carolina Tory, and Gray is with us. Call
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again from Columbia, South Carolina live right here on ninety
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three three KJRFM coach at Softy and former NFL quarterback
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How are you man?
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I'm doing great?
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How you got good? Good? It's great to have you
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on the radio show. Man.
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So a lot of us did not know a lot
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about Nick until it got drafted by.
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The Seahawks on Friday.
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So why don't you, first of all just give us
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the view from thirty five thousand feet When you hear
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the name Nick even Warie, what goes through your mind?
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Tell us about the player and the and the person
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that we're getting up here in Seattle.
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The player you're getting, I'll tell you back when I
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was coaching at Virginia Tech. You guys all familiar with
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Cam Tansllor. So I coach Cam Chancellor at Virginia Tech.
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And when I will recruiting Nick Evenworri out of high school,
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I'm like, man, you only get a cam Chancer probably
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once in.
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Your career at that size.
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And you know that that factually a defensive back and
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and then then I'm I get to South Carolina and
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Nicki min Worriy comes to camp. He's playing linebacker and
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he runs this crazy forty time and he's doing all
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these amazing numbers and he and he's working out at linebacker.
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I didn't even work him out at the camp.
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And then I was like, man, with that forty time, man,
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I just want to batpel him and see if he
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can play dB. So I batpedaled him once and he
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turned caught the ball and I'm like, no, there's no
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way this guy is sashed can be a defensive back.
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I'm like, that's all I need to see, just one rep.
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And so you're getting a generational type guy as far
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as a body type. And it's not like back in
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nineteen eighty two with your with your fooltures and and
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and those big staties they used to have. They used
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to just play down at it, which which you know,
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he's a different breed, you know, like I said, it's
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Cam Chancellor and he's actually faster, same size and all
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those things.
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The type of person you're getting.
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Is a is a fun loving, very charismatic, charismic, charismatic
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individual man. He loves to have fun. But when Nick
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flips the switch and it's time to get serious with football,
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that's that's what Nick's able to concentrate in and hone
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in and do well.
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You talk about the comparison there, You're You're the You're
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the guy that everybody wants to hear from. So make
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the comparison. That's who you thought he'd be, Cam chancesor
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as you recruited him. Now tell us after you've coached him,
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you've coached them both. Tell us ways where you say, man,
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they're almost identical in this way, But then give us
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a couple of attributes where you think that emun Worry
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is clearly different than Cam Chanceller.
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I'll tell you from a football competitiveness standpoint, playing physical standpoint,
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and football like you standpoint, they're very very similar. And
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so I'm y'all, uh, you're not gonna catch me saying
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what what Cam's going get pissed at me and be like, hey, man,
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Nick is better than Cam or Cam is better than Nick,
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But I can't say that Nick they're the same guy,
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with Nick having more explosive forty speed, more explosive vertical speed,
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vertical jump speed, which the number that to come by
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say those things, but honestly, other than that man very
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very similar attributes and in a lot of respects.
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We're visiting with Tory and Gray who coached emonn Worrie
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in college, and as well as Cam Chancellor and coach.
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I'm gonna share with you in the observation I made,
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and then you speak freely in your response. And I
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watched every tackle for Nick this season, and I went
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in kind of Cam Chancellor. I don't wear players jerseys
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to games, but if I had to, I'd wear thirty
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one to a seat game. That's what I think of
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Cam Chancellor. And I was expecting just a wee bit
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more violence from Emon from Nick in the sense of
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like when Cam Chancer, when when the running back would
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come back I'm talking about to see days, Chancer would
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take him up in the through his chest, you know eyes.
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He was looking to make an enforcement hit.
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There was a couple there was a few times where
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I was expecting that kind of of hit from Nick
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and he went a little lower, a little lower on the.
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Legs, you know that.
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Then I was expecting a little more violence. Now is
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my expectation unreasonable or or or just kind of common?
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In that regard.
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It, hello, your if your expectations were hired, and then
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I can't argue with with that part and and and
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at that because I didn't get to watch Cam on
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the on the pro level, I know he what to
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capitate the capitate you. But I've seen Nick from a freshman.
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Do some things.
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His first tackle as a freshman, it was a fourth
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and one play and he hit this running back at
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the line and the guy didn't go forward and he
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stopped them in I've seen Nick versus Georgia, maybe not
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last year film, but I mean hit guys and just
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just like wow, man, it's you know, this dude shouldn't
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be this physical or whatnot.
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So it's in there.
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If it didn't happen last year, I'm telling you it's
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in there. And and I know how special Cam was
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in that department, but Nick doesn't lack for those things.
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And if he feels.
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Short off some of those typlest sorts on some of
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your expectations, and I can't argue with your observation, but
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I've seen I know it's in there.
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You know, I'm just saying I know it's in there.
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Well, Nick, even Warry's position coach at South Carolina. Torrian
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Gray is with us on on the radio show, and
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you know, again, when he gets drafted, coach, you just
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go right to the combined results and see that he
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just crushed the combine. He was like number one in
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every major category except for the forty and I think
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he may have been number two and that in that
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in that category at the combine. So, what is it
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that that you think really physically sets him apart? Is
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it his speed? Is it his his ability to cut?
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Is it his quickness, his footwork, his eyes, his hands,
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his tackling ability. What is it specifically about his game
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that you think attracted the Seahawks enough to make him
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a second round pick.
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Oh, the Seahawks are smarter than a lot of teams.
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I give them credit for that. And and what I
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mean is like when people see your sixty three two
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and twenty plus pound guy, the natural tendency is to say, oh,
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he's a box guy. And I hear guys, and I've
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seen some of the commentaries out there, and you know
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Nick Stagan says it on the damn Draft They oh, yeah,
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he's a good box safety. Well, you haven't watched Nick,
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because he's more than a box safety. He can play football,
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he can play away from the ball, and some of
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the interceptions he made, this interception he made it against
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Kentucky as a junior, the interception he made against Clemson
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as a junior, No other safety in the country can
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make those type of plays. So he's got some wow
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factorability and can make plays on the ball better than
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you give them credit for. And for the numbers he
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put up at the combine. And like I said, I
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think to see I just will say the Seahawks are
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a lot smarter than than a lot of other teams.
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I love that making them what they took.
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It just going back on the Cam chance or comparison
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and the fact that you coach both these guys.
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Do you know if Cam and Nick have ever spoken?
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Have you ever connected these two together?
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Nah? No, I haven't. I haven't.
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I don't know if they've spoken since he's gotten drafted
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or whatnot, But I've never connected them together. And my my,
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my biggest compliment I always gave nickas man, you remind
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me of Cam and and and you know, like I
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say it, you know, he's just got got some more
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speed and those type attributes, and those are the great
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biggest difference.
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Yeah, excuse me, Yeah, those are great traits to have.
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I want to compare Nick to another safety. As you know,
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Mike McDonald had been the defensive coordinator with the Baltimore Ravens.
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They drafted a safety out of note name Kyle Hamilton.
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Now Hamilton might be, if anything, a little taller at six',
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four not nearly the athlete That nick, was but you,
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know a span h in the ninety eight. Percentile so
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we here In seattle are, saying, okay is there is
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there aspects Of hamilton's game that we see in him and.
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Worry you, know things like the ability to on third
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and medium to play a tight. End he's got the
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length to play a tight, end man to, man those
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type of, things the length and what have you uh
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to to the extent that you can, comment do you
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see Maybe nick fitting in as an all around jack
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of all trades playmaker the Way Kyle hamilton did with The.
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Ravens, Okay, so in all, FAIRNESS i didn't See Kyle
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hamilton play At Notre, day AND i hadn't seen him
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play with The Baltimore. Ravens BUT i can speak On nick's.
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ASSETS i could when you put a receiver in the. Slot,
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NOW i know the pro in the college game is
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gonna be different as far as the guys they'd be
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going on, once BUT i felt very confident With nick
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on a wide receiver in a in a college game
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and a slide from a press from a press. Material
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SO i would think if those guys are asking him
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to cover tight, ends as long as he's playing with
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great technique and, LEVERAGE i WOULD i would, say he,
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would you, know do a do a great job in
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that respect and give coaches the flexibility to put him
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in those situations in.
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Excel, so if you're gonna play man to man and
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and now you got one play to win the, game all,
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right and you know and you know you're gonna play,
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man would you rather Have nick lined up on the
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tight end on a big, receiver small, receiver just just
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just where do you feel more comfortable he'd get the?
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Win and WHY i feel very confident he's on a tight. End,
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now if it's, technique if he's confidence in his, technique
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you know he'll he'll have a chance against a big
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receiver because obviously he's got the linked and if his
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technique is, correct he'll have he'll have a great chance
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to make a play on the. Ball, now if his
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techniques is, inconsistent because you, know when you're talking about
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the margin arrow against guys on that, level, yeah he's
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going to get going to lose to AN nfl wide.
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Receiver so you, know if he's in the right headspace
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with his technique and it's, FUNDAMENTALS i would like his
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chances against a wide, out a, taller bigger wide out
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who's probably not going to be crazy shifty away from.
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HIM i do like his chances, there and LIKE i,
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say tight, END i think that should definitely be something
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that he should be able to to win the majority
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of those.
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BATTLES i love.
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It.
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Well a couple more minutes With Torrian, gray who Is
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nicky Man warre's position coach At South carolina safety at The,
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seahawks gott in the second. Round so you, know there's
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a there's kind of this laundry list of standard questions
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we like to ask coaches and draft picks after they
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get selected coach by The, seahawks and one of them, is, hey,
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look you want to have a long career in THE, nfl,
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right we want nick to have a long ten year
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decade plus career in THE, Nfl i'll get a second con,
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track get a third, contract and be A seahawk for.
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Life so to do, THAT i, mean you know his
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strengths and you know his. Weaknesses what would you tell
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him in a private, Moment, hey, man you want to
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survive in THE, nfl these are the things that you've
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got to start working on and get.
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Better act, Tonight.
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Nico played ten.
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Years if he if he does not get content or
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if he doesn't think he's making it, like always be,
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green if he's always green and, Growing nickel played for
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a long. Time If nick gets content and just rest
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upon his, lowells like anybody with great, talent you're not
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gonna get better and you're gonna leave yourself susceptible to
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not maximize that talented the amount of years that he
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could play on the next.
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Level so was there stay? Green and in all, RESPECTS
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i would, say.
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Well stay?
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Green that is an Awesome Now i've never heard. That
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there ever time where you thought you had to give
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him a little? Proud was there ever a time where
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you thought he was getting a little too? Content?
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give up some. Plays and then if you're honest enough
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to have the conversation with, him and he responded the right.
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Way he finished the SEASON i think with.
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he really didn't have a bad. Game i'm talking about
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overall his junior year and and, honestly go back and
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you say you watched every. TACKLE i think he missed
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less than than three tackles all. Year But i'm talking
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about just from a game specif he really didn't have
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a bad. Game you, know everyone has bad plays here and,
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there but he never had a bad. Game and that
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really started with after he got you, KNOW i would say,
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humbled or you, know, HEY i have to do and
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be locked in all the. TIME i have to do
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my fundamentals all the. Time and once he took that
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maturity step that that's kind of what led him to
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Had, yeah, Well tory And, gray, coach this is, awesome.
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Man we really appreciate you doing. This AND i assume
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that from a pro level, Perspective Cam chancellor might be
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your most prized pupil you've ever. Coached and who, knows
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maybe one day we'll be coming back here saying, nope
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he's number two Because nick Emn warre is now number.
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One so we'd all love, that, man great.
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Stuff appreciate your insight and jumping on the air with,
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us man and we'll talk down the, road.
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Buddy thanks, Pal, okay thank, you you got? It you bet,
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Coach tory And. Gray how about?
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That the secondary coach For South carolina with a few
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thoughts On nick Emund Wari, man what'd you make of
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what you heard?
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There, WELL i think he's a feisty. GUY i could
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see how he uh could could put a cattle proud
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into a player and and he's got he's got his,
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vision HE'S i think that he probably coached with, HONESTY
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u With nick and With Cam, pryor SO i see
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why he's a valued secondary.
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Coach, well what he just said there about. RIGHT i
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think different coaches have different ways of saying the same.
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Thing Like Chris peterson would always tell me that coaches
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would come out or players would come up to him and, say, hey,
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COACH i got, this And chris would, say, no you
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don't have this at. All so the idea that you're always,
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motivated that you're never, content you're never resting on your,
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and always pissed.
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OFF i love that, man so especially at that.
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Position by the, WAY i love That we're gonna break
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a little fun with audio coming, next and Then Brett
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kings and talk about the red Hot mariners baby right
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The position coach for Nick emn Wari, the secondary coach
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at South Carolina Tory, and Gray is with us. Call
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again from Columbia, South Carolina live right here on ninety
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three three KJRFM coach at Softy and former NFL quarterback
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hum Mellon.
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How are you man?
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I'm doing great?
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How you got good? Good? It's great to have you
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on the radio show. Man.
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So a lot of us did not know a lot
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about Nick until it got drafted by.
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The Seahawks on Friday.
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So why don't you, first of all just give us
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the view from thirty five thousand feet When you hear
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the name Nick even Warie, what goes through your mind?
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Tell us about the player and the and the person
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that we're getting up here in Seattle.
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The player you're getting, I'll tell you back when I
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was coaching at Virginia Tech. You guys all familiar with
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Cam Tansllor. So I coach Cam Chancellor at Virginia Tech.
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And when I will recruiting Nick Evenworri out of high school,
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I'm like, man, you only get a cam Chancer probably
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once in.
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And you know that that factually a defensive back and
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and then then I'm I get to South Carolina and
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Nicki min Worriy comes to camp. He's playing linebacker and
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he runs this crazy forty time and he's doing all
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these amazing numbers and he and he's working out at linebacker.
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I didn't even work him out at the camp.
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And then I was like, man, with that forty time, man,
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I just want to batpel him and see if he
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can play dB. So I batpedaled him once and he
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turned caught the ball and I'm like, no, there's no
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way this guy is sashed can be a defensive back.
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I'm like, that's all I need to see, just one rep.
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And so you're getting a generational type guy as far
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as a body type. And it's not like back in
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nineteen eighty two with your with your fooltures and and
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and those big staties they used to have. They used
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to just play down at it, which which you know,
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he's a different breed, you know, like I said, it's
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Cam Chancellor and he's actually faster, same size and all
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those things.
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The type of person you're getting.
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Is a is a fun loving, very charismatic, charismic, charismatic
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individual man. He loves to have fun. But when Nick
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flips the switch and it's time to get serious with football,
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that's that's what Nick's able to concentrate in and hone
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in and do well.
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You talk about the comparison there, You're You're the You're
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the guy that everybody wants to hear from. So make
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the comparison. That's who you thought he'd be, Cam chancesor
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as you recruited him. Now tell us after you've coached him,
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you've coached them both. Tell us ways where you say, man,
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they're almost identical in this way, But then give us
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a couple of attributes where you think that emun Worry
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is clearly different than Cam Chanceller.
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I'll tell you from a football competitiveness standpoint, playing physical standpoint,
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and football like you standpoint, they're very very similar. And
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so I'm y'all, uh, you're not gonna catch me saying
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what what Cam's going get pissed at me and be like, hey, man,
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Nick is better than Cam or Cam is better than Nick,
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But I can't say that Nick they're the same guy,
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with Nick having more explosive forty speed, more explosive vertical speed,
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vertical jump speed, which the number that to come by
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say those things, but honestly, other than that man very
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very similar attributes and in a lot of respects.
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We're visiting with Tory and Gray who coached emonn Worrie
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in college, and as well as Cam Chancellor and coach.
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I'm gonna share with you in the observation I made,
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and then you speak freely in your response. And I
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watched every tackle for Nick this season, and I went
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in kind of Cam Chancellor. I don't wear players jerseys
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to games, but if I had to, I'd wear thirty
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one to a seat game. That's what I think of
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Cam Chancellor. And I was expecting just a wee bit
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more violence from Emon from Nick in the sense of
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like when Cam Chancer, when when the running back would
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come back I'm talking about to see days, Chancer would
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take him up in the through his chest, you know eyes.
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He was looking to make an enforcement hit.
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I was expecting that kind of of hit from Nick
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and he went a little lower, a little lower on the.
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Legs, you know that.
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my expectation unreasonable or or or just kind of common?
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at that because I didn't get to watch Cam on
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the on the pro level, I know he what to
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capitate the capitate you. But I've seen Nick from a freshman.
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His first tackle as a freshman, it was a fourth
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and one play and he hit this running back at
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the line and the guy didn't go forward and he
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stopped them in I've seen Nick versus Georgia, maybe not
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last year film, but I mean hit guys and just
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just like wow, man, it's you know, this dude shouldn't
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be this physical or whatnot.
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So it's in there.
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If it didn't happen last year, I'm telling you it's
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in there. And and I know how special Cam was
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in that department, but Nick doesn't lack for those things.
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your expectations, and I can't argue with your observation, but
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I've seen I know it's in there.
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You know, I'm just saying I know it's in there.
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Well, Nick, even Warry's position coach at South Carolina. Torrian
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you know, again, when he gets drafted, coach, you just
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go right to the combined results and see that he
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just crushed the combine. He was like number one in
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every major category except for the forty and I think
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he may have been number two and that in that
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in that category at the combine. So, what is it
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that that you think really physically sets him apart? Is
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it his speed? Is it his his ability to cut?
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Is it his quickness, his footwork, his eyes, his hands,
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his tackling ability. What is it specifically about his game
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that you think attracted the Seahawks enough to make him
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a second round pick.
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Oh, the Seahawks are smarter than a lot of teams.
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I give them credit for that. And and what I
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mean is like when people see your sixty three two
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and twenty plus pound guy, the natural tendency is to say, oh,
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he's a box guy. And I hear guys, and I've
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seen some of the commentaries out there, and you know
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Nick Stagan says it on the damn Draft They oh, yeah,
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he's a good box safety. Well, you haven't watched Nick,
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because he's more than a box safety. He can play football,
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he can play away from the ball, and some of
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the interceptions he made, this interception he made it against
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Kentucky as a junior, the interception he made against Clemson
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as a junior, No other safety in the country can
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make those type of plays. So he's got some wow
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factorability and can make plays on the ball better than
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you give them credit for. And for the numbers he
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put up at the combine. And like I said, I
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think to see I just will say the Seahawks are
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a lot smarter than than a lot of other teams.
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I love that making them what they took.
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It just going back on the Cam chance or comparison
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and the fact that you coach both these guys.
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Do you know if Cam and Nick have ever spoken?
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Have you ever connected these two together?
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or whatnot, But I've never connected them together. And my my,
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my biggest compliment I always gave nickas man, you remind
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me of Cam and and and you know, like I
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say it, you know, he's just got got some more
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speed and those type attributes, and those are the great
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biggest difference.
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Yeah, excuse me, Yeah, those are great traits to have.
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I want to compare Nick to another safety. As you know,
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Mike McDonald had been the defensive coordinator with the Baltimore Ravens.
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They drafted a safety out of note name Kyle Hamilton.
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Now Hamilton might be, if anything, a little taller at six',
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four not nearly the athlete That nick, was but you,
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know a span h in the ninety eight. Percentile so
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we here In seattle are, saying, okay is there is
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there aspects Of hamilton's game that we see in him and.
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Worry you, know things like the ability to on third
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and medium to play a tight. End he's got the
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length to play a tight, end man to, man those
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type of, things the length and what have you uh
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to to the extent that you can, comment do you
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see Maybe nick fitting in as an all around jack
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of all trades playmaker the Way Kyle hamilton did with The.
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Ravens, Okay, so in all, FAIRNESS i didn't See Kyle
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hamilton play At Notre, day AND i hadn't seen him
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play with The Baltimore. Ravens BUT i can speak On nick's.
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ASSETS i could when you put a receiver in the. Slot,
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NOW i know the pro in the college game is
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gonna be different as far as the guys they'd be
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going on, once BUT i felt very confident With nick
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on a wide receiver in a in a college game
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and a slide from a press from a press. Material
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to cover tight, ends as long as he's playing with
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great technique and, LEVERAGE i WOULD i would, say he,
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would you, know do a do a great job in
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that respect and give coaches the flexibility to put him
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in those situations in.
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Excel, so if you're gonna play man to man and
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and now you got one play to win the, game all,
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right and you know and you know you're gonna play,
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man would you rather Have nick lined up on the
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tight end on a big, receiver small, receiver just just
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just where do you feel more comfortable he'd get the?
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Win and WHY i feel very confident he's on a tight. End,
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now if it's, technique if he's confidence in his, technique
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you know he'll he'll have a chance against a big
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receiver because obviously he's got the linked and if his
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technique is, correct he'll have he'll have a great chance
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to make a play on the. Ball, now if his
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techniques is, inconsistent because you, know when you're talking about
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the margin arrow against guys on that, level, yeah he's
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going to get going to lose to AN nfl wide.
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Receiver so you, know if he's in the right headspace
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with his technique and it's, FUNDAMENTALS i would like his
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chances against a wide, out a, taller bigger wide out
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who's probably not going to be crazy shifty away from.
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HIM i do like his chances, there and LIKE i,
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say tight, END i think that should definitely be something
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that he should be able to to win the majority
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of those.
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BATTLES i love.
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It.
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Well a couple more minutes With Torrian, gray who Is
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nicky Man warre's position coach At South carolina safety at The,
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seahawks gott in the second. Round so you, know there's
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a there's kind of this laundry list of standard questions
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we like to ask coaches and draft picks after they
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get selected coach by The, seahawks and one of them, is, hey,
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look you want to have a long career in THE, nfl,
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right we want nick to have a long ten year
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decade plus career in THE, Nfl i'll get a second con,
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track get a third, contract and be A seahawk for.
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Life so to do, THAT i, mean you know his
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strengths and you know his. Weaknesses what would you tell
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him in a private, Moment, hey, man you want to
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survive in THE, nfl these are the things that you've
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got to start working on and get.
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Better act, Tonight.
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Nico played ten.
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Years if he if he does not get content or
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if he doesn't think he's making it, like always be,
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green if he's always green and, Growing nickel played for
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a long. Time If nick gets content and just rest
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upon his, lowells like anybody with great, talent you're not
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gonna get better and you're gonna leave yourself susceptible to
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not maximize that talented the amount of years that he
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could play on the next.
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Level so was there stay? Green and in all, RESPECTS
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Well stay?
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Green that is an Awesome Now i've never heard. That
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i'm Gonna i'm gonna steal that from. You but was
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there ever time where you thought you had to give
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him a little? Proud was there ever a time where
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you thought he was getting a little too? Content?
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HAD i would say sophomore year as a Freshman All.
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American then sophomore, year there was a time frame WHERE
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i thought we got away from some of our fundamentals
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and being disciplined on some of the, things and you
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give up some. Plays and then if you're honest enough
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to have the conversation with, him and he responded the right.
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Way he finished the SEASON i think with.
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About four or five just really really solid.
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Games and he carried that into his junior year and
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he really didn't have a bad. Game i'm talking about
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overall his junior year and and, honestly go back and
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when you watch those miss those tackles you were, saying
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you say you watched every. TACKLE i think he missed
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less than than three tackles all. Year But i'm talking
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about just from a game specif he really didn't have
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a bad. Game you, know everyone has bad plays here and,
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there but he never had a bad. Game and that
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really started with after he got you, KNOW i would say,
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humbled or you, know, HEY i have to do and
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be locked in all the. TIME i have to do
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my fundamentals all the. Time and once he took that
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maturity step that that's kind of what led him to
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have the type of year he.
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Had, yeah, Well tory And, gray, coach this is, awesome.
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Man we really appreciate you doing. This AND i assume
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that from a pro level, Perspective Cam chancellor might be
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your most prized pupil you've ever. Coached and who, knows
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maybe one day we'll be coming back here saying, nope
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he's number two Because nick Emn warre is now number.
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One so we'd all love, that, man great.
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Stuff appreciate your insight and jumping on the air with,
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us man and we'll talk down the, road.
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Buddy thanks, Pal, okay thank, you you got? It you bet,
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Coach tory And. Gray how about?
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That the secondary coach For South carolina with a few
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thoughts On nick Emund Wari, man what'd you make of
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what you heard?
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There, WELL i think he's a feisty. GUY i could
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see how he uh could could put a cattle proud
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into a player and and he's got he's got his,
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vision HE'S i think that he probably coached with, HONESTY
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u With nick and With Cam, pryor SO i see
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why he's a valued secondary.
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Coach, well what he just said there about. RIGHT i
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think different coaches have different ways of saying the same.
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Thing Like Chris peterson would always tell me that coaches
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would come out or players would come up to him and, say, hey,
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COACH i got, this And chris would, say, no you
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don't have this at. All so the idea that you're always,
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motivated that you're never, content you're never resting on your,
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laurels and always trying to get, better and always angry
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and always pissed.
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OFF i love that, man so especially at that.
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Position by the, WAY i love That we're gonna break
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a little fun with audio coming, next and Then Brett
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