Full Transcript for 143: Dry Fire Is The Answer, Listener Questions

your left hand, let the right hand just pull the trigger, or vice versa if you're wrong. 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:14.159 So he also said that he's worked with a couple coaches on this. 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:18.000 So in my mind, that that then those would have been the things I would have focused on too. 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:18.479 Who? 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:20.400 So that's the question is who? 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.759 But because a good coach is gonna tell him to dry fire, right? 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.639 And so, in all things, if you're working with a coach day to day, okay, that's great. 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:29.759 Most people are not, right? 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.680 They're gonna go get some reps in with a coach and then go back to what they're doing. 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:39.120 So imagine think of dry fire as your time in the gym, the range is the test day. 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:45.599 So if all you did was a test day every two or three weeks, you're not gonna get very good at the thing you're doing. 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.680 Testing isn't typically good training. 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:53.199 So, and this is a bit of a gross oversimplification, but dry fire is your training. 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.520 So train it in dry fire, take it to the range, execute, and adjust dry fire. 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:58.000 Okay. 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.520 That sounds pretty straightforward to me. 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:07.840 If he's a if he's with a coach and still wondering why he's shooting low end left, go find a new shooting instructor because they should be able to diagnose that. 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:14.159 Yeah, I'm wondering, I'm wondering the foibles that I shouldn't say junior level coach, but a less skilled coach would fall into. 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.159 Like, what are the well, there's a question for you. 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.240 If I'm looking for a shooting coach, how do I know they know what they're talking about? 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:29.680 You know, it's just that the old adage of or the old principle of in my side of the house, so to speak, just because you're an elite level track and field athlete doesn't mean you know how to coach it. 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.159 So I know it's not wins. 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.919 So, like, what are the metrics that we're looking for for good firearms coaching? 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:40.879 Yeah, so good firearms coaching, I would say that they are prioritizing the correct things. 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:44.800 And so specifically, we're talking about a pistol practical pistol. 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:48.560 I'm assuming he's not a bullseye, competitive bullseye shooter if he's missing low and left. 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:56.240 So if he wants to be good at practical application of pistol use, you need to find a coach who's prioritizing speed and accuracy. 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:02.479 Somebody who competes in some way, shape, or form, I think is always a good idea or has competed even if they're not active. 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:09.840 But if they're not talking about getting rounds on target quickly and accurately at the same time, then go find somebody else. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:19.600 If they're telling you to like slow down and get your hits, that they're probably not with like what is being taught in this day and age. 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:34.800 So tenure is not necessarily the best thing because they could have been doing it incorrectly for the last 20 years, or maybe they're doing a great job as per group sync 20 years ago, but it has progressed drastically over the last 20 years. 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:40.720 So to sum it up, if they're prioritizing speed and accuracy, you can shoot alphas quickly. 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:41.839 That is the goal. 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.920 They're probably having the correct conversation. 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:56.399 If they have competed in USPSA or IDPA or some other type of shooting competition that mixes your actual hit scoring against your time, they're probably not horrible. 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:04.319 People that we work with are Ascension Training Group, Matt Pranka, X-ray Alpha is his company, Hunter Freeland, HRF shooting. 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:08.240 Oddly, some bunch of the people we work with don't like each other, which is fine by me. 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:19.439 There's about a million guys out there who teach how to shoot fast and accurately, go to a weekend course with them, drop the thousand bucks, then go do it and dry fire, and you'll be on good footing. 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.720 It's it's actually relatively simple once you realize what you're trying to do. 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.519 And then the secret sauce is dry fire a whole lot. 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.439 Like 10, 15 minutes a day of dry fire is gonna be it, right? 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:34.480 So what you see in shooting, I'm not gonna derail us too long as you run through the questions from the audience. 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:35.360 No, no, no, no. 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:36.240 This is good stuff. 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:56.240 What I see in shooting a lot, and since we're a fitness company and people probably have that background as a user before shooting, uh, most of us do, it would be akin to, hey, I went to a weekend Olympic lifting seminar, then I didn't go do any Olympic late weightlifting, then I showed up at a meet and was like, man, why did I suck? 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:57.519 It's not gonna go well. 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:04.800 Or you you went and did a running class, then never went running, and then you did a local 5k, you're not gonna do well. 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:06.720 The shooting world, we see it a lot. 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.360 I'm fucking guilty of it too, where I'm like, nah, I haven't dry fired in a little bit. 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.959 Still gonna go to the range and rip some rounds today because I enjoy that. 00:06:15.120

--> 00:06:17.839 But if you want to get better, dry fire is the key. 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:21.839 When you when you say dry fire, I'm wondering how what's your setup? 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:23.680 Because I know we have like cert now. 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:24.160 Well, cert. 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:29.920 Cert's been around for a while, but and you've got the uh there's a bunch of mantis is one. 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:31.439 There's a whole lot of them. 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:36.319 My dry fire setup, I was looking to see if I had it over there, but I do not. 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:47.600 My dry fire setup is typically my Langdon Tactical Beretta, which is really fun because it's got a double action trigger, so I can engage targets. 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:52.079 One of the things this is somebody, this is for somebody who has been dry firing for a bit. 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:56.000 What I have stopped doing is dry firing where I'm shooting pairs. 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.480 A lot of guys don't even pull the trigger in their dry fire. 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:03.519 They're just presenting the gun and moving it target to target working what weapons, manipulations, etc. 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.839 I now engage every target. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:13.839 I want to watch the red dot or the sights, but I'm only engaging targets with one round because there's no there's no feedback from one round to the next. 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:22.800 So I don't I think it's better stimulus for me to spend less time on that target and pull one shot again as a double action shot and then move on. 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:30.879 I do still dry fire with my clock 48, uh, which is tiny tiny, not double action, trigger doesn't reset, etc. 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:43.680 But the setup should be the exact same stuff you go to the range with, like triple check your mags and gun that you're actually dry so that dry fire doesn't turn into accidental live fire in the kitchen or whatever you're doing. 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.360 Yeah, because it never happens. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:46.240 Yeah, never. 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:53.680 The one of the things that I think guys get down a rabbit hole on is targetry, which I I kind of get, but I also don't. 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.560 Go print out some USPSA targets if you have a printer. 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.879 If you don't, just find some things that you can set up, like this is a coaster. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:06.720 Find some shit around the house that you can set up to shoot at so that you actually have a point of reference. 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:13.120 Because when you're shooting a an IPSIC, a USPSA, etc., you're not looking at the whole target anyway. 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.680 You're looking at like the A of the A zone, right? 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:17.519 You're looking at that specific point. 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:22.879 So it doesn't matter if that specific point is on uh four inch by four inch square. 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:30.560 You typically do want reduced size targetry for dry fire because you're not shooting the distance as you would in actual like on the range. 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:36.720 But I could be my focal point could be the eyeball of the skull or the skull itself, right? 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.159 You could have a tiny focal point. 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:42.080 So I actually I don't know if this is gonna be a controversial take to some people. 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:46.080 I don't give a fuck what the target is that I'm shooting, as long as I have a target. 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:52.399 Part of that thought process is in all of the shooting I've done on animals or whatever. 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:58.799 I I have rarely had that like perfect broadside stationary shot, right? 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.480 There's always brush, there's the sun, like there's just always other factors. 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:06.320 So I don't really care what the target is that I'm shooting. 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:18.799 I want to aim as small as I can on that target where I know I can get the rounds in a place that matters in a competitive environment that's in the A zone, and that A zone may be a sliver of a head. 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:21.120 It may be the entire A zone, who knows? 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:28.559 But if I'm really focusing in on a small point on every target that I do in dry fire, that works out well for me. 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.840 Uh I suppose it's just are you hitting what you're aiming at? 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:37.440 That's the question is if your sights are at this point, do your rounds hit this point or do they hit somewhere else? 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.399 And you can tell that in dry fire as well when the shot breaks. 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:50.559 So I will often, um I don't know if there's any other fucking nerds like me that do this, but I will often just go through like pictures on the wall as target arrays. 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.639 So I may be pointing at a specific, you know, the base of that cactus. 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.559 I'm, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:57.759 The list goes on and on. 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:05.440 I may just be holding center on that square because if sometimes you are shooting shapes and color, there, I don't actually see any issue with that. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:17.279 And I'm curious if there's a lot of really hardcore USPSA guys or Ipsy guys that will say, no, no, you know, we need to be practicing on these targets, but for the bulk of your targetry, I don't think it matters one bit. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:27.759 I do think it starts to matter if you're if you're at a level where you're preparing for a match and now where you're aiming specifically starts to matter for IPSIC versus USPSA. 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:30.960 That may change your pace a little bit for what you're shooting, right? 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.879 If you're going

from A zones this big to A zones this big, that may matter. 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.360 But I don't think that the target tree, the gun setup, all of that. 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:44.639 Like if you have a gun, you have a way to carry it, and you have shit on the wall at your house, you can drive higher. 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:45.120 Yeah. 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:45.360 Yeah. 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:47.120 It sounds like basic principles. 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:48.240 Practice the principles. 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.399 Can you turn your mic down just a tad? 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:51.840 The game? 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:52.879 Yeah. 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.399 I think the game's all the way down. 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:55.120 Oh, dude. 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:55.600 There we go. 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:57.440 But I can there you go. 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:57.919 That's great. 00:10:58.080 --> 00:10:58.320 That's great. 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.440 You were clipping, and it wasn't too loud, but it was like borderline. 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.080 So I don't know why my head keeps going to this. 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.159 I know you talked about it several months ago. 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.240 You mentioned Langdon Tactical. 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.320 I can't remember the name of the pistol, but you collaborated with them on the burrito. 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:13.039 Burrito. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:14.080 I kept wanting to say taco. 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.039 I'm like, that's not right. 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.440 So we talked about doing a taquito. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:18.720 Taquito. 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:19.759 Oh, I like that. 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.960 Tiny, tiny subcompact and doing this taquito. 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:23.360 Yeah. 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:30.639 So, so 92 FS versus Glock, like tail as old as time, but you know, 92 FS, I'm not going to say it's dated. 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:36.000 I just wanted you, can you talk through why the 92FS variant, so to speak? 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:37.440 I say variant because Langdon. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:38.240 Man. 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.000 I'm just going to talk about the yeah, Beretta 92-ish. 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:43.679 I think I was like, 92-ish, there you go. 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:45.279 R is a 92G. 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:51.279 It's a Centurion model, which means that it's a slightly shorter slide and barrel, a full-size frame. 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:52.799 Why I like that gun. 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:59.279 So it's worth mentioning that I was kind of against doing the Beretta when we first started talking with Langdon Tactical. 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:05.039 And the reason that I was against the Beretta is the same reason that every other dude who was in the mill is against the Beretta. 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.080 The Berettas that I had fucking sucked. 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:15.360 Like they were terrible guns because it was a hammy down from God knows how

many guys. 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:15.919 Yes. 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.600 Um, not maintained well in the Marines. 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.399 We it was just totally fucking clapped out, right? 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:29.440 In the Marines, half of our guns that were blued were silver from dudes just sitting there scrubbing shit with a fucking steel wire brush. 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.519 It's so dumb in hindsight. 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:32.639 So I wasn't a fan. 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:40.639 And Danny Dreyer had shot their guns, and he's like, dude, these things are sick as so I but I was a big CZ fan, which is probably worth it. 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:41.360 Yes, I remember that. 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:42.879 I've had a CZ for a long time. 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.240 You borrowed it for a while, actually. 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:44.960 The shadow. 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:45.519 Um the shadow. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:46.879 Really nice tool. 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:47.759 Really nice pistol. 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:52.799 I was shooting matches in production class with that off and on over the last few years, 10 years. 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.159 So it's like, well, I'll try this Beretta thing. 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.960 And Danny was like, dude, these things are sick as fuck. 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:00.320 You have to shoot one. 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.519 So we talked with Langdon Tactical, uh, Amy and Ernest. 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:10.240 Ernest was a Marine, he's a USPSA grandmaster, obviously world-class gunsmith. 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:15.200 Amy's his wife, she runs the business with him, and they sent me like a prototype. 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.320 So my prototype is is kind of uh it's different. 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:22.000 It has the original barrel with the NP3 coating on it. 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:31.919 And I shot it and I was like, this is you know, it's kind of like if you didn't really enjoy Toyotas because you had a clapped-out Corolla in high school. 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:32.320 Okay. 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:32.720 Yeah. 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:39.120 And then the Toyota Racing team is like, nah, man, we have this Supra that's a fucking time attack car. 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.840 You're not looking at the same thing that you're used to, right? 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.200 And so that's what it was. 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.080 It's a very realistic uh assessment. 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:59.039 It's also worth stating that a new stock beretta, because I've gone now and and shot them and played with them, and I'm like, that is a whole other ball game than the stock berettas that we had in the mill. 00:13:59.440 --> 00:13:59.679 Okay. 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:08.240 The guns we had were just fucking like it's that is like dragging a complete car out of a junkyard that's been sitting there and getting it dry. 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:14.080 It somehow starts and drives, but you have no idea the last time the oil was changed, what spark plugs are in it. 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:18.000 And it's like, it might get you point A to point B, but it's not going to be a good time going there, right? 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.399 The shocks are blown, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.000 New a new nice beretta is a whole other ballgame from what we had. 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.039 But the what's wild is the reliability is there. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:31.200 So it's an incredibly reliable and incredibly accurate firearm. 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:42.559 I'm also a big fan of the double action, single action thing, partly because I've had great success with the reliability of those guns versus like 2011 platforms. 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:44.320 They've been hit or miss for me. 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:45.840 I've shot staccatoes a lot. 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:47.840 I've had nothing but success with staccatos. 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.039 I don't own a staccato, but I've had good experience with those. 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:56.799 Um, I have not had the best experience with STI, which is the predecessor to staccato, same company. 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.679 And then I've had issues with a slew of other 2011s. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.519 I've had it, I've had frankly more Glock issues than Berretto issues at this point. 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.159 Taking the military time out of the equation. 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.320 Is that a fair question? 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:16.480 When you think back, have you shot more Glock and therefore have more errors because you have more time with Glock? 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.399 For sure, but it's a different uh the so the air the issue that I've had with it. 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:21.679 Yes, that is a part of it. 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:30.480 But in recent memory, I had a fresh Glock 47 that was very picky on ammo, like off the sh off-the-shelf ammo. 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.000 It was quite picky on what it would run well with, and that's kind of a known problem. 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.960 I swapped springs and issue went away. 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:38.879 Never had that issue with the beretta once. 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:45.679 Now it could be the fact that it's you know, you're comparing a$2,000 Beretta to a$700 glauck. 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:45.919 Right. 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:47.600 I don't know how much a Glock costs now. 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.399 But yeah, so I've I've had zero issues. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:57.840 Like I I haven't seen a benefit to the Glock over the Beretta, unless you really like plastic magazines or you really like the stippling, etc. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:04.159 So for me that argument kind of goes out the window, at least for the like guy who's buying the gun. 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:05.279 I guess in the military. 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.240 My glau well, but again, it's not apples to apples, man. 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:15.039 The Glock 19s that I had were and

in the Glock 19s, Glock 43s, and Glock 17s, I had all of those. 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.799 They were newer guns than the berettas that I had in the mill. 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.399 So I don't know if those things are like totally fucking clapped out now. 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:27.200 A decade later, somebody's getting my old pistol that I put a lot of fucking rounds through. 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:28.879 That uh at this point. 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.000 Yeah, but I don't know. 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.279 I I would guess that they're they're dude, they're probably still in service in reality. 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.000 Well, yeah, the frame theoretically, you know, is okay. 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.399 It's everything else that wears out theoretically. 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:41.919 Um I don't know. 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:43.519 I don't know enough about gunsmithing. 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:51.200 Glocks, you what you're gonna see is like small springs like extractors and things that actually yeah, those things will go out. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.879 I've never had a s anything that's a slide, a barrel, a frame. 00:16:55.120 --> 00:17:04.960 I've had frames go out in the sense of like getting loose, but that on those guns I had swapped out like the pins that hold everything together. 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.680 I had swapped those out for titanium and other weird shit time and time again. 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:15.440 But I haven't had any issues that were like stock glock to stock new beretta. 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:21.519 The stock glock has lost in that, in that, and again, I only had the one issue, and once I swapped springs, it was a non-issue. 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:28.240 What well here's a question, and I hope this is like for the listeners, there we're not losing so so to speak, like I'm not interested in markmanship. 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.000 I feel like you would be, given the Venn diagram of who's using Softly. 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:39.039 But so let's say you spent the equivalent on on a Glock comparison or Glock pistol or Glock platform. 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.759 Would you think it would feel the same to you? 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:42.400 No. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.799 Or tell me more about that. 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.960 It's a lot of it is on I guess striker versus hammer. 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:59.680 Yeah, it a lot of it is on just like the feel of it, but I don't like I don't like I don't enjoy having an ar argument hinge on feel. 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:05.759 So and what I mean by that is a guy may like the way a Glock feels better than a beretta. 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:13.359 But I more wanted to highlight when you talk about you know a beretta versus a glock, which Glock is the fucking gold standard for a reason. 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.119 I've had more Glocks than any other guns. 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:15.599 They're great. 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.119 I'm not saying I don't like Glocks.

00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.000 I still carry a Glock, but probably 90% of the time I cla carry it's a Glock 43X. 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.640 I don't enjoy them the way that I enjoy other guns. 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.000 And guys are gonna think that's weird. 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:29.920 Oh, it's a tool, focus on training. 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:30.640 Yeah, got it. 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.839 Fucking been there. 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.240 Still get it. 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:41.599 However, this is a fucking hobby, let's be realistic, for 99% of guys that are going to be shooting guns. 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.759 If you're active duty, I would recommend you shoot with whatever the fuck you're issued. 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:47.039 There's not right. 00:18:47.759 --> 00:19:13.200 The argument that I would I would say is very of is very viable is that if you're shooting a gun that blows the ceiling off of your capability, meaning you're shooting an open class or other race gun equivalent, like a totally tricked out gun, and it's letting you run 0.15 splits, you're training vision, weapons handling all of that at a rate that is really fucking fast. 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.599 It's kind of like going and driving a race car. 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:17.759 I've driven some really fast cars on the track. 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.640 I used to teach driving on the track as a side gig. 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:36.240 There is definitely a benefit to driving a 500 horsepower, 2,500 pound car really fucking fast around the track, and then you go get in a normal car and you're like, bro, I can text, drink coffee, and drive with my knee and drive this thing at 100% of its capability at that point. 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.240 There is an argument to be made for that. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:45.519 I don't think most of the guys that are most guys are not shooting enough where I think that becomes a factor. 00:19:45.680 --> 00:20:01.200 I think the reps are so precious on active duty that shooting comps and weekends and all of that stuff with the exact same platform that you're same gun or no platform, same model that you're issuing carrying, to me, that still makes all the sense in the world. 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:07.039 Well, uh to me, it brings to mind how much skill can you buy, essentially, through your kit. 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.119 So be it running, be it mountain biking, you know, I can buy it. 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:21.200 Well well, so like my argument is to to use your analogy with racing, you know, if you have access to that, it's essentially exposing you to more stress, but in a way that you can control. 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:22.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:23.920 Yep, absolutely. 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:24.400 Yeah. 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:30.079 When I first started mountain biking, my bike, my skill outpaced what the bike could do, and it was holding me back. 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:30.799 The bike was.

00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:31.279 For sure. 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:39.279 Now I have a bike that's more balanced in from the standpoint of I can't, I'm not over overmatched for the bike, so to speak. 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:40.960 Um keep up. 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.440 And there's a lot of guys that are like, the answer is Glock, and they'll point to a guy. 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.000 Shit, I gotta lose, I gotta make sure I'm plugged in. 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:49.200 I'm gonna lose power. 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:56.559 They'll point to a guy like Brantley Merriam, who won whatever it was that he won, I think one of the USPSA nationals last year with a Glock. 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.599 Well, his Glock wasn't stock, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong. 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:00.240 Right, right, right. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:05.279 The guys that are competing at a high level, they're not grabbing it out of the box, slapping a red dot, and going to shoot. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:12.000 They're still doing things with their gun to make it more reliable, accurate, easier to shoot quickly, better trigger, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:13.119 Let me make sure I'm plugged in. 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:17.039 Dude, this is hilarious, and you'll get this because you're a fucking nerd too. 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.160 My charger for my laptop, I like stepped on it and it broke. 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:23.759 So hang on one second. 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:29.279 This is the case to the but everything that's inside still works, right? 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.079 So yeah. 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:42.799 All of this is definitely not Firehouse, but it gave me this retarded idea of like, well, now I have this like thing that I can like instead of this case, I could put some fucking something cool around it. 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:49.599 So I'm gonna cut that little face off and glue that over the top, but then I'm gonna make my charger something absolutely ridiculous. 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:50.880 Do you have a three D printer? 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:51.200 Yeah. 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:55.359 But I have enough friends with three D printers that if I that's actually a great idea. 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.359 I should get a little soft lead skull that's those dimensions and stick it in there. 00:21:59.599 --> 00:21:59.680 Yeah. 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.319 Have the chords coming out of the mouth or the nose. 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:03.039 Yes. 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:04.000 This is a great idea. 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:05.039 Yeah. 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:05.599 All right. 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:08.640 So let's uh let's move forward talking about. 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:10.400 So one of the questions, I'll read it. 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:11.279 I'll read it to you. 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:11.920 Let's see. 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:14.319 Are people DMing you these? 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:14.960 Yeah. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:15.359 Yeah. 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:16.400 Oh, dude, I love it. 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:18.160 Just out of out of the blue. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:25.200 It's interesting, you know, as an aside, our numbers from a download standpoint, Buzz Sprout dropped a little, and I was like insecure about that. 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.359 But YouTube's been increasing by more than what we lost on Buzzsproutes. 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:30.400 And it's like, oh, okay, cool. 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:30.720 All right. 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:31.279 I wonder. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.240 Dude, we have a huge YouTube spike. 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:40.319 Basically, it looks like that surprise speed violence of action video is carrying. 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:41.359 Oh, maybe not. 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:41.920 I don't know. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:42.160 I don't know. 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:42.720 It's weird, dude. 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:43.599 Yeah, it's carrying a lot of things. 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.000 It makes me insecure, but it's I'm seeing a trend, which is cool to see. 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.160 Softly's a really interesting business model where we don't need a million views. 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.799 I need the right people to be watching and we have a niche and that's gonna be it. 00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:57.599 Yeah, that's fine. 00:22:57.759 --> 00:22:58.559 I think that's fine. 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:08.000 Like you can't, you're not gonna if you had a million followers, I mean, there's clearly not enough people with military first responders to to actually be buying the product. 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.279 So it's it's interesting. 00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.039 Unless you change the brand. 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:14.480 Like what, but I know you learned that like what you wanted to do years ago. 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.680 All right, here's the question. 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:20.480 If you had a year to prep for a marathon, what would your cycles look like on SoftLeet programs? 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.680 I'm wanting to make a run in the Marine Corps marathon next year, raw. 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.160 I'm 42 and have a solid fitness base. 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:36.160 Soft fleet since the PDF and Adventure program, which was awesome days, but I have been doing a lot bodybuilding cycle for the last few months, and I'm a little bigger and slower than I prefer. 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:37.039 Your response. 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.359 Pick a stamina cycle and send it. 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:43.039 Um he said how long is he out from the Marine Corps marathon? 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:44.480 A year. 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:45.440 A year. 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.519 I would get on the apex try pro I would I would do one stamina cycle to get you back into running. 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.279 Literally fucking pick one. 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:54.720 It doesn't matter which one it is. 00:23:54.880 --> 00:24:01.519 Pick a stamina cycle, execute it, don't ignore your stamina

days, and then I would jump on apex try. 00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:08.079 Yeah, that's gonna get you six months out, and then I would decide if I need to do another apex or hybrid athlete cycle. 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:13.119 We have them in the app, or if I want to do alternate between a stamina cycle and an apex cycle. 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:24.720 But I will tell you this when I was when I ran a 70, I ran 72, I think 72 or 76 miles pacing a friend doing an ultra marathon. 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.279 I did the 72 or 76, I forget what it is. 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.200 It was a decade ago, nine years ago. 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:29.920 I did that. 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:42.160 My one of the other guys in SoftLeet joked, he's like, Yeah, Brent's basically just gonna swing his arms back and forth and go run a fucking ultra marathon, which is a little bit of a an exaggeration because I was on the stamina team. 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.160 I was on SoftLeet Stamina program. 00:24:44.559 --> 00:25:04.240 And the reason this isn't a shameless, but I guess it is a shameless plug, but we have enough endurance work baked into all of our training plans that I firmly believe if you're on a stamina program and you're actually executing it in the way that we write it, we don't have one that's gonna let you not let you go run a marathon. 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:04.720 Right. 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.680 So, and I've never I've talked to a lot. 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.039 I mean, we just had a DM. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:15.680 I shared it to the stories, I text I emailed it to all you guys of a dude who let me see what team he was on. 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.920 Did he do you remember if he said what team he was in? 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:18.880 I don't remember. 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:19.440 I don't remember. 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:24.400 So this weapon he's uh sounds like a platoon sergeant in the army. 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.799 And uh he basically emailed in and was like, love your guys' stuff. 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:41.119 I've got most of my platoon on softly programming, and I've run X amount of 10Ks and I believe a marathon on the programming he's you know bought in for life. 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:54.319 And we don't get a lot of we don't get a lot of reach back in that regard, which is like kind of funny because we have so many daily users that you would kind of think we would, but we don't. 00:25:54.400 --> 00:26:00.799 We have eight hundred and uh eight hundred and something daily users, and we're not talking to eight hundred of you guys daily. 00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:02.400 I wanted to say thank you. 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:10.480 He foundry cycle has been his go-to for supplemental strength and condition training for both of his marathons. 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:14.480 Never a top PT guy until his friend put us on Soft Leet and our supplements. 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.880 Sorry, we're sunsetting supplements soon. 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:24.240 But uh completing his first two marathons in a five-month time frame and a string of his best APFT scores in his career. 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.920 So yeah, he was on foundry cycle. 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.799 But literally pick a stamina team, jump on it, go. 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:38.799 If you want to like take it to another like another level, we have the apex try program and the apex programs, which are like a hybrid athlete type thing. 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.039 More so around strength and bodybuilding. 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:42.079 And yes, there is a difference. 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:48.000 I know a lot of people are trying to argue that there's not now, but there is a difference between maximal strength training and bodybuilding for size and mass. 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.079 Both great, both can be super beneficial to the tactical athlete, but they're not the same thing. 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.160 What do you wish more out of Go ahead? 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:54.559 Go ahead. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:55.359 No, no, no, go ahead. 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:02.160 I was gonna ask you, what do you wish, hypothetically speaking, there's pro how many programs are there on the South SoftLeet app that have been made to be published? 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.319 The new app has a hundred and something. 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:05.599 That's what Yeah. 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:17.519 So over a hundred programs, not counting the people who are already who are already using the program or who have already been well versed, what do you wish more people would utilize? 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:23.359 So, hypothetically speaking, there's a senior leadership active duty member, goes to a splatoon. 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:25.759 What should they be considering first? 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.920 Like it's the biggest rock, easiest compliance, etc. 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.160 In the app, you mean like the biggest thing that we offer in the app? 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.200 Um because if you put them on Raider, you're gonna break somebody. 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:38.160 That's not a good idea. 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:38.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:39.759 That's not a good idea. 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.039 Uh the basic cycle. 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.000 The basic cycle is exactly as it sounds. 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.160 It's a very basic group of movements. 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:47.359 It's not as much volume. 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.839 It's some of the guys call it the old man cycle. 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:56.799 It's great for low training age, low training volume, old men who want to get back at it. 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.559 You want to simplify your training. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.000 The basic cycle is great. 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:13.920 I wish that we would have more unit leaders giving their guys, hey, this is the basic cycle, go do that, and actually having them execute upon it, versus what I know

a lot of unit leaders do of like, hey, I've got a fat shit bag, I'm gonna make him run with me. 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:14.240 T. 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:15.039 Yeah. 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:16.880 Yeah, till he can't run anymore. 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.799 The other piece is the nutrition side. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.759 So many guys do not have their nutrition dialed. 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.319 They eat like an asshole, they drink, they don't sleep. 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:31.920 If you're doing those three things and you're training your balls off, you're like you're just you might as well cut your training at that point in time. 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.839 Not out, but like you're not getting the recovery you need. 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:36.720 You're not gonna get better. 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.400 So yeah. 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:39.279 Interesting. 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:39.839 All right. 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.839 Do you have more questions or is that it? 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.440 Well, Matt and I addressed some of the other questions that we've been getting. 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.880 Well, you already answered another one with the trigger time thing, drive fire. 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.000 Let's see what else I got. 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.519 I know there's at least one more. 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.200 Uh yes, clusters. 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:54.240 That was the other thing. 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.599 So so let me see if I can pull up the exact question. 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:00.160 Let's see. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.200 Yeah, he sent me a. 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:02.640 Okay, so this is from Ryan. 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:13.279 Ryan was asking about, so here's I can't remember what the name, which program it is, but he got sent a cluster in his program, and it's uh between three exercises the deadlift, the pen lay row, and the hang power clean. 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:14.559 Do five reps for each. 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:16.880 You are not to put the drop uh the bar down. 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:18.400 So I'll read out the description. 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.400 Build to the heaviest complex you can. 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.440 Once you pick up the bar, don't put it down until the complex is done. 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.519 Rest as needed between sets. 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:31.279 So he had questions on because of the deadlift, pen lay row, and hang power clean, how does he load it up? 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.000 And there's two ways to in my mind, and you feel free to jump in. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.599 Like how much weight? 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.119 Yeah, because here's the thing. 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:42.240 Like, uh and he he noted on the dead on the uh leaderboard somebody was was slinging 365. 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.039 So if you had a hang power, right, so maybe you understand. 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:46.000 Probably not. 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:48.319 Right, you understand. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:49.119 Yeah. 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.200 To have a hang power cleaner 365, bro, that's amazing. 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:53.920 And to do it. 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:55.599 And it's that's a five, right? 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.240 That's a five. 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:57.440 That's a five, yeah. 00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:57.680 Yeah. 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:06.240 So in my mind, what I told him, because I've done complexes before, which I think uh I don't see them enough in classic programming, I should say. 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.960 But uh deadlift and they wrote it. 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.319 There's a new school, it's not really a new school train of thought. 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:22.880 It's an old school train of thought that's resurfacing in that we don't want to do clusters, we don't want to do supersets, we want to apply only maximal effort in the lift and it's independent. 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:24.400 Yeah. 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:24.960 Yeah. 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:32.960 And I I understand the idea there, but there's there's so much nuance and so much that goes into the output that we require down the line. 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:33.599 But go ahead. 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.160 Um I jumped in curly. 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.640 So when I look at those three lifts, my biggest limiter is probably gonna be the hang power clean. 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.039 It's gonna be between that and the Pendlate Row. 00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:52.559 And that'll be so sometimes what I do is I have if I have the luxury, like when I was at Exos, I had the luxury of setting up three different loads and just maxing it out that way. 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:58.400 But you don't in this in this circumstance because we're really trying to get some muscle endurance going on with your grip. 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:06.079 And I suppose, yes, if you're not allowed to put the bar down, if that's the goal, then then even more so hang power clean probably going to be. 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.400 Probably the reason it's gonna be the limiting factor is because there's a speed component to the hang power clean. 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:16.720 Whereas with pen lay row, there is a speed component, but there's no I can hang power clean more than I can penle row, that's for sure. 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.720 But I I'm also fucked up now. 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.519 So that might be why. 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.759 Well, that's how that's that that's what I'm thinking of. 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.319 Because Penley Row is an upper body exercise. 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:26.400 So yeah, there's a limiting factor there. 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.559 I'm not allowed to use my legs in the same way. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:36.480 So it's kind of like I would say for me, there's probably more of a technical demand from the hang power clean that's gonna limit the load that I can use. 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:41.599 Whereas Penley Row, if I fuck up

technically, okay, well, nothing bad happened, you know? 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:42.000 Yeah. 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:46.400 So I'll I'll just tell you how I would load that and then you can rework roughly where you are. 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:57.279 And I'm gonna caveat this by saying if I did this today, I would not be able to walk tomorrow because if I lever with this much weight, it's it just like I can do it. 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.480 I can row this, I can penle row it for sure. 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:08.720 But being in that that hinged position, being bent over and rowing, does not work for me with the herniated discs anymore. 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.160 So I could do this if I wanted to test this to see. 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.000 I would load like a 185 on a bar. 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.359 My power clean, which is is is not the limiting factor, is 265. 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:25.759 I I tested a 265 power clean, I think, three weeks ago. 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.559 So I'm power cleaning 265. 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.799 I don't know what I'm fucking rowing, but a lot. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.599 If I was in a seated row, chest supported. 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.319 Um I I know I can pen lay row 185, right? 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.640 I might go do this and put myself in the hurt locker anyway, just to put some proof in the pudding. 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:48.160 But I would load that with 185, and it's based on the pen lay row being the limiting factor. 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:56.640 So if you can pen lay row 225 and you know you can power clean 225 for five reps, I would load that. 00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:02.160 But you're you're loading there, you should be like, these should be ugly reps at the end there. 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:04.960 You should be fighting with the bar on the legs, etc. 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:06.559 These should not be perfect reps. 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:12.240 And I suppose you're you're chasing, think of it not as three sets of five, but 15 reps total. 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:12.960 That's what you say. 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:14.880 15 reps holding, yeah. 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.319 Can you hold 185 for 15 reps of whatever? 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:18.799 Yeah. 00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:24.799 Um, you know, if you're dropping the bar from the well, it's it's a hang power clean, right? 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:25.599 Yeah. 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.440 Yeah, so you're not getting a reprieve. 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.039 Can you hang a, you know, your reprieve is gonna be in that front rack position. 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:31.839 I like that. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.119 Uh, and that's it. 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:45.920 So you're also, you know, you're limiting somebody's ability to like really put themselves in the hurt locker if they're not in bucket that I am with herniated discs, etc., by doing these clusters with a limiting factor of a bent over row. 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.759 Nobody's gonna bet over row 405, even if they can deadlift it. 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:50.960 It's really interesting. 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:58.720 You have me thinking, my for me, what happens with me is because of lack of internal range of motion in my right side, and then that's being very specific. 00:33:58.799 --> 00:33:59.519 Who the fuck cares? 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.240 What happens is my lower back when I'm catching fucking seizes up. 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:05.359 Oh, it doesn't hurt. 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.079 It's it's just it's just like I can't fucking move. 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:08.880 It's really weird. 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.480 So that's what I mean by technical fault, because Penlate Row doesn't there's a lot of that though. 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.559 Dude, I could power clean 265 and be fine tomorrow. 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.199 Mm-hmm. 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.480 Assuming I can hit it today. 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:21.920 I know I can hit 245. 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.239 That's like a very reliable one rep max for me. 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:30.719 I hit 265 a few weeks ago, but I know today I could walk in the garage and hit a 245-pound power clean and be okay. 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:40.559 I also know if I walk in that garage and I do five reps of just a fucking deadlift at 245 because the setup is slightly different, etc., I will hurt tomorrow. 00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:48.800 If I do five reps of a 185-pound pen lay row, I'm not getting out of bed tomorrow, first try. 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:50.719 Like that's really interesting. 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:51.840 Very odd. 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.239 That's well, there's a let's talk through that. 00:34:54.400 --> 00:35:03.360 So in my mind, so firstly, there's a shit ton of force, uh, sheer stress being exposed to the lower spine at the bottom of a front squat, but it is a hang power clean, power clean. 00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.119 So I guess that that's okay. 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:05.840 So that makes sense. 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.320 You know, even from the fore, it wouldn't matter for me. 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:08.719 Yeah. 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.480 Just the setup and everything's different. 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:11.440 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.360 Well, because you're more up, you're more upright. 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.400 There's way more leg drives, there's less posterior chain involvement. 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:22.480 Because in a deadlift, if you you should, in my opinion, obviously everyone's different, torso length, aren't limb length, et cetera. 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:31.760 But in my opinion, the deadlift should be way more hip dominant than the hang power clean, with some exceptions as far as body anthropometrics. 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:42.719 So I see that, yeah, by putting yourself more posterior stress or biased position, that's putting your spine in a compromised position that a hang power clean would never. 00:35:42.880 -->

00:35:44.960 However, if you rode the bar to the bottom. 00:35:45.519 --> 00:36:00.239 Even then, even then, if it was just a hang clean, I don't think I don't think it would hurt your back as much because you you have so much anterior chain involvement with at the bottom of the catch that it kind of makes up for a lack of instability in the spine. 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:00.960 But I don't know. 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:01.840 Here's the fun part. 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.559 I don't know that. 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:03.599 You'd have to test it. 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:14.400 But now for a penle row, you're bent over and your weight, you're no if if these are my legs and I'm bent over, the weight's here hanging off of my arms. 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:14.800 Yep. 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:15.440 Yep, yep. 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.679 In a clear He's making a diagram with his hands. 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.519 Yeah, yeah, I'm making a diagram. 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:27.119 So I'm getting the weight is further out on that lever, which is now levering the spine more, which is not good for the herniated discs. 00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:52.480 So but for load notes, again, like I think it's very fair to say that if you're like my power clean's 265, I would load 185 for that, and I think that's probably a I I would I could do it, it'd be fucked up on my back, but I don't think that that percentage or scale would change that much unless somebody's just an ungodly great, fast, powerful hips, Olympic weightlifter who doesn't ever do any type of rowing. 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.559 And I don't you don't see that very often anymore. 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:54.960 No. 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.280 I I I wonder for me. 00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.400 Let me ask you this. 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.559 So let's say hang para clean, I fail. 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.119 I only get three or four reps in, and I technically speaking can't get that catch. 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:12.960 Would you recommend regressing to just a pool or sticking it out and giving myself enough rest where I can get that fifth rep? 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:14.960 No, it's a it's a no-go on the fifth rep. 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.440 So I would drop weight and complete the cluster. 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:18.079 Okay. 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:18.719 Interesting. 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:35.519 Yeah, a lot of these clusters, we're inducing some inhibiting factors on purpose, but we're also often working things like grip strength and strength endurance, which is often ignored by the new science-based lifting crowd. 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.599 Strength endurance is apparently not a thing to them. 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.440 I was very uh surprised. 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.239 Something about so I'm still doing Terminator. 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:53.280 Something about Terminator fucking toasted my grip for RDLs because once I started adding straps like my numbers for everything else, shot way up because of lack of hand fatigue since I got rid of it. 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:54.639 Really surprised by that. 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.519 And also just grip strength has never been an issue for me. 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.360 But yeah, things are running too much, is what it is. 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:03.039 Getting old, dude. 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:18.079 Something I noticed is now that we're on anecdotal training observations, I have noticed that when I start getting on a tear with aerobic output, for some reason I'm not ingesting as much meat and protein. 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.760 Like I I have to like really work to get that done. 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:45.519 And so what I've seen anecdotally as of late is that when I start really getting on a tear for a lot of aerobic output, um, my strength numbers go to shit, not due to lack of training it or lack of ability, like recovery time, but my I think my diet just it changes the way that I'm eating and I have to work to get back to like protein focused. 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:53.199 I will say, hmm, there's probably something there with fatigue because I will say that if I don't sleep well last night, I know later on at around 3 p.m. 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:54.960 I'm gonna be really pounding carbs. 00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.039 Actually, I did yesterday because I slept poorly. 00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.000 Uh lots of chips. 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.800 Are you doing are you doing creatine on the days that you didn't get good sleep? 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:09.440 Not more than I should try, I should experiment with that and see how I feel as far as doing a big dose. 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.639 I I've all I've done uh creatine pretty much year round, but I've never, it's always been around three to five grams. 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.119 I've never gone and done a 15 or 20 to see how it affects things, but that's a great idea. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.000 What I have started doing, and listeners, I encourage you to entertain this notion. 00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:25.760 I can't legally say go do this. 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:26.320 I guess I could. 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:27.360 It's 2026. 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.679 There's influencers suggesting much worse. 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.719 But uh psyllium husk for fiber intake. 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.199 Cilium husk will improve satiety. 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.119 I'm sure I've talked about this before with some of the dietitians that we've had. 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.519 I've noticed in general, I get leaner when I'm doing around 10 to 15 grams a day. 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:51.440 And I think a lot of that has to do with appetite control and slowing things down. 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:59.199 And I've been really surprised with how, because a lot of what I was reading is when you get up to doses dosages that high, it can lead to gut distress. 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:00.079 Haven't had that. 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.639 But

probably because I'm thinking about it, I'm taking in enough water to counteract it. 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:06.639 It's pretty affordable. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:12.079 It's not super expensive, it's food, so it's not weird or manufactured in the lab. 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:22.079 So I do think more people, particularly those who are older, like 50 and up, from a colonosconoscopy standpoint, from a colon health standpoint, need to be looking at that. 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:23.519 So potato potato. 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:24.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.440 I've also learned, I just recently learned I have to look into it. 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.239 Now I'm 40, so I got some time, but I'm still open to it. 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.480 Colonoscopies or the uh prostate, sorry, the prostate check thing. 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.119 That's not there's other tests you can do now. 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.159 So if the doctor's really excited about doing a probe check, just know that you don't you may not have to. 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.239 I like to keep it old school. 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.519 Yeah, right, right. 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.000 So just a heads up, everybody, for those of you listening. 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:48.960 All right, Brent. 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.199 That's that's what I've got as far as questions go. 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.159 Where's your head at? 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.760 Well, let me let me share this real quick. 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.360 One of my prior to joining up with Softly, one of the complexes that I would use if I wanted to crush you. 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.440 Let's see if I can recall what it was. 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.559 It was a bent over a row with kettlebells, as heavy as you can get. 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.800 So kind of like a penle row, actually, very similar to a penlay row, just with kettlebells instead. 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.440 So it was a bent over a row to, I believe, reverse lun no, hang pulls, hang pull. 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.800 I'm doing this all by memory. 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.079 I'm writing it down. 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.440 And then hang pull to reverse lunge. 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.639 And I believe there was one more. 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.960 I don't think it was overhead press. 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:28.320 It might RDL. 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:28.960 That's right. 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:33.760 So bent over a row to RDL, RDL to hang pull, hang pull to reverse lunge. 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.280 Uh, you did one leg, you could do alternating or one leg at a time. 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:38.480 They both suck. 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:39.679 It didn't matter which. 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.800 And the thing is about that, so the barbell was a different load than the kettlebells. 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.400 Bent over row were separate. 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.480 You would do reps or set, and then week two, sets of four. 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:58.079 Depending on your fatigue level, we would either increase the load at that point or keep it flat, and then you would go up two sets of five. 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.239 At which point there's this question I'm constantly asking is are we just training aerobically? 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:03.360 And is that what we want? 00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:09.199 That was one of my favorite complexes to use, and it really, it really put people in the dirt, myself included. 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.559 So man, there's a lot of ways to put somebody in the dirt. 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:20.559 I and I actually I think there's value to that that a lot of people don't see when it's done intelligently and in small dosages, etc. 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:30.000 But overall, what I want to talk, what I want to dive into since we're on this odd freestyle that we don't normally do is is like so it preface this. 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.199 I want to think through this. 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.679 Okay, you're fielding questions from the gram. 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:40.000 One of our guys who does training for us and content for us and things was he's pretty burned out, it sounds like. 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.239 So he was just on the road a whole ton and traveling a bunch. 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.519 Today he's like, Man, I'm just fucking burned out in the gym. 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.519 Like, I'd go out there and slog it through. 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:50.400 Does anybody have any tips? 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.079 I was like, Yeah, don't go to the gym, dude. 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.599 Like, well, I think the first thing I said was, go hit a bunch of accessory work. 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.199 It's not gonna put you into a hole. 00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.920 Go, go do shoulder shrugs, biceps, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:06.000 Hit like the 80s mixed bag of accessory lifts and have fun with it. 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.840 And then go hit a run or or whatever. 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.360 And then I go, hey, don't you surf? 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:10.000 And he's like, Yeah. 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:11.199 I'm like, fuck the gym, dude. 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:12.000 Go for a surf. 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:12.639 Like, yeah. 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:13.920 The waves are good right now. 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.679 I actually wish I was surfing today, but I'm not. 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:17.440 I was like, go for a surf. 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:34.400 So the gym for us and for I think most people is is a means to an end, meaning you're there training to be stronger, faster, have better endurance for whatever your thing is life, adventure, military first response, like whatever the thing is. 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:38.639 There's a small group of people and it may ebb and flow. 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.480 There's a time where the gym is a stress relief. 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:43.679 Like, oh, I need that.

00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.760 That's my piece, that's where I go, that's what I do. 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.719 I work it out, it helps with anxiety and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:50.159 There's definitely a component to that. 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:55.280 When you do it enough, that goes away and it becomes like doing the fucking dishes. 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.760 So I don't know about you guys, but there's some times where you're like, I don't feel like doing the fucking dishes. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.840 Right now, but I know I have to do it, so you do the dishes, right? 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.000 And so fitness can become that. 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:25.360 What I what I've always been a big fan of is that if you're doing something really active, like truly active, that can and should, I mean, just on this episode, we we did the adventure program back in the day, which was it was a everyday strength and conditioning, like normal training, right? 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.559 So we had our normal structure of warm-up, movement prep, strength work, then conditioning. 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:43.599 But it was also split and it came with a guide for strength work and conditioning work so that if you were doing a thing outside of the gym, it would sub and tell you, don't do this because this negated it. 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:57.920 Meaning we had one, you know, it was every day would say, Hey, if you're doing these things, playing soccer, surfing, doing jujitsu, etc., these are the pieces of this training program that you can skip and dip out on. 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.239 And I think it's important to remember that for people. 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.079 Hey, if you are burned out on the gym, you can try a new gym. 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:11.039 You can try, hey, just start fucking running or swimming or like doing something else to get you back into that thing you want to do. 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:20.079 The number one thing to stay strong, healthy, fit, and perf at a and performing at a high level is consistency throughout the years. 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:32.639 So if we look at a 10-year timeline and you're doing some type of strength conditioning, you're doing or some type of strength, some type of conditioning, some type of mobility and breath work, you're prioritizing sleep, you're not eating like an asshole. 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:39.360 If you do those things with an 80% compliance over the course of a decade, you're gonna be in really good shape. 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.480 If you do those things with a 40% compliance, you're gonna be in exponentially worse shape. 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:55.199 So if we move those parts and pieces and we do slightly less strength, slightly more conditioning, and that undulates over time, it's not as detrimental as you would think. 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:05.199 Meaning, if we're stimulating the tissue by surfing, doing some air squats, wrestling, like whatever the thing is, you're not gonna lose muscle mass in the way you think. 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:06.719 You may lose a pump. 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:18.239 And people need to realize that your muscles, when they're under tension and you feel jacked because you've been doing all your accessory work and shit and you're pumped up, that goes on for a relatively lengthy period of time. 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.800 You don't lose the muscle mass quickly. 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:26.239 You're losing tension in those muscles as they relax and they're no longer recovering and they're not getting pumped up anymore. 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:32.880 So if you sit, if you take a week off of the gym and you go surfing in fucking Costa Rica, you're not losing any muscle mass, dude. 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:33.360 I'm sorry. 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:38.719 As long as you're eating to keep rebuilding that and you're stimulating the tissue somehow, it's not gonna go away. 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:45.519 You might lose the pump, especially when you're not jamming pre-workouts, sugars, beta alanines, et cetera, but you're not gonna lose the tissue. 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:59.920 So when you're in that funk and you're in that bind, figure out what is the thing that you can do that's going to give you some peace and have some fun and keep your compliance high with some type of strength and or conditioning, and do that for a little bit until you can get like back into that structure. 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.000 That's a very healthy way to look at it. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:11.440 Like, and uh, yeah, there was times where when I was running a lot or cycling a lot at the expense of the gym, it was in the back of my mind that I was sacrificing something. 00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:22.480 But if that's a very unhealthy way to look at it, because then your cost, like whenever your perceived cost, now you're losing instead of just enjoying the thing that you're supposed to be doing. 00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:26.000 And I am not as fast as I was. 00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:32.320 And when I say fast, I'm talking about short distance, but I have to remember that there was not a sacrifice, but a trade. 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.559 I'm way fitter than I was. 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:42.320 Uh, I remember like if I if I went mountain biking right now, like back when I was really fucking strong, I would leave myself in the dirt. 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.320 And that's a deal that I agreed to. 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:48.239 And it's uh that that adage, uh, I always bring this up when I'm teaching courses. 00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.480 Uh, no one cares if you're the best at exercising. 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.760 And people always think of uh that TV show, Eastbound and Down. 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.800 But that's kind of the like I care about this stuff, but I have to remember why I am doing it. 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.119 I shouldn't like it for the sake of doing it. 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.079

There's plenty of people who do that, and kudos to them. 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:08.880 But at least for me right now, at this point in my life, that's not me anymore. 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.320 And if it it it's it would be weird if it was in my mind. 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.480 But there's plenty of people who out there who are like that. 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.639 There's nothing wrong with that, and kudos to them. 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.360 But for me, I have to recognize that life, I say this too: life is sinusoidal. 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.199 There's ebbs and flows all day, all year long for the rest of your life. 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.119 So it's okay to, and everything should have a season, and that's okay. 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.440 So, I mean, why else are we doing this? 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.239 And the whole point is struggle, purposeful struggle. 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:45.760 So if I'm sacrificing or trading off strength in the weight room to be better at mountain biking, and now it's time to get back in the weight room, well, yeah, it's gonna be fucking hard, but that's why we work out, it's normal. 00:48:46.079 --> 00:49:00.800 It's it's more important to have a process-focused approach and an outcome-focused approach because you can imagine, and I know I'm not the only person who feels this way, feels this way, but when I go do a heavy set of RDLs and I know how strong I used to be, I sound like I'm opening back in high school. 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.440 I was a star quarterback, but like it's just back in 84, I throw a pig skin a quarter mile. 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.559 Yeah, I'm not I'm not the same kind of athlete, but it is in the back of my head, it's like, man, this is weird. 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.079 This used to be light. 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:13.679 Uh yeah, I'm thinking of RDLs. 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.880 And maybe, maybe it could also be the style of program that I'm doing. 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.119 Is it just I'm going anyway a little bit more fatigued? 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:24.880 I'm also just moving a hell of a lot more than I was fitness-wise, not strength-wise than I was before. 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.000 So that could factor in. 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.079 I will say this it is weird for me to run. 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:34.239 I was running shuttles on my street uh last week and I was fatigued. 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.840 It's and I'm bringing this up because it was like a trap I found myself in. 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:38.800 I was fatigued. 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.599 So when I'm running, I'm like, man, I feel slow right now. 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:47.920 And then I got interrupted because my son needed something or my wife was showing up, and I had a maybe a six-minute break, and then I was flying again. 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.599 I was like, oh, okay, I was just tired. 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:50.400 That's fine. 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.079 Um it's the end of the workout. 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:53.039 So yeah. 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.039 Yeah, and again, consistency over time is the key. 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:07.840 So I I do think there's something like I remember when I was in recon school, the instructors would always be like, You gotta get used to the weight, talking about our rucks on us. 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.199 And I'm remember thinking, like, that's not how the fucking body works. 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:17.360 Like, and I wanted I obviously you're not arguing with those guys at that point in time, but in my mind, I'm like, that's the dumbest thing. 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.199 Your body doesn't get used to the weight. 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.960 And now I'm like, I think there's something to that, right? 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:34.639 Where the guy who is it are we talking about a physiological adaptation of like now your body turns into this rucking beast with the fucked up shoulders and hips and no. 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:45.840 What we're talking about is the fact that now that I've worn this 45-pound ruck plus water two or three times, it's not as scary and the tissue's a little bit more prepared for what that feels like. 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:46.960 It goes numb to it. 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.320 It makes minor changes in the moment for that to happen. 00:50:50.559 --> 00:51:04.159 The reason I say that is I think that often, you know, when we talk about, oh, I lost it in the gym, it's almost like those newbie games where you're just you have to kind of get back into the groove of that movement, right? 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:10.800 But the other piece to that is if those muscles have have not had the same tension that you're now applying, they will respond. 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.239 You got how fast tissue actually does respond to inducing tension. 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:15.920 It'll respond quickly. 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:25.760 But if you're not used to that much tension in that muscle at that period point in time, it may feel like, man, it took me, you know, three weeks to get my strength back. 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.559 Well, you only did farmers carries twice a week. 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:37.599 So it was really only six sessions, and frankly, you just had to get used to that tension being back so that you can, you know, produce the same amount of force that you once did. 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.000 There really was not a difference in like the actual tissue a lot of the times. 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:44.400 Yeah, you're talking about nervous system adaptation. 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:45.280 There's a lot of that. 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.199 Yeah, there's a lot of that, right? 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:53.920 So I think that we we've got to give ours give ourselves a little bit of time of, okay, well, I haven't done this in a while. 00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:55.440 But it also blows my mind. 00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:01.760 I'm gonna slightly toot my own horn,

but if anybody goes and watches the reps, I'll get no rep on like 18 of the 20. 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.679 You probably already know what I'm talking about. 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:08.000 But I did L sit pull-ups and they're not fucking perfect. 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:14.719 They're not like I was like trying to get down and I was probably like to there, if you could see my if you're watching that on YouTube. 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.719 I've got a little bit of pink in my own. 00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.360 Well, they're pretty fucking good for a 215-pound dude doing 20 L set pull-ups. 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:26.079 But what the reason I bring that up, and and somebody's gonna be like, that's a humble brag. 00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:27.440 It's not a fucking humble brag. 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.519 That's pretty sick if you ask me doing 20 L set pull-ups, even if they're not perfect. 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:33.440 Zero humility in that one. 00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:39.280 What's interesting though, from a human performance perspective, is I don't know the last time I did L-sit pull-ups. 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:44.639 It used to be a staple of my training for sure, but it has not been in quite some time. 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:50.480 And what's interesting is I've been doing a lot of yes pull-ups, but in full range of motion ones. 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:52.960 It's hard to do full range of motion L sits. 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.119 I swing at the bottom so much. 00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.599 I don't have the hip mobility for it. 00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.119 My my legs like it's just my lats are too tight, I think. 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:01.440 I don't know. 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:03.679 They feel amazing on my low back. 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:09.039 But what I what I was gonna say is I've been doing pull-ups and I've been doing a ton of GHD style sit-up. 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:10.239 So the core is there. 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:16.960 And so what I was gonna mention is the task transferability, strong core, that's an attribute. 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:22.000 Strong lats, good muscular endurance doing pull-ups leads to 20-ish. 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.920 Well, it was 20 L sit-ish pull-ups, right? 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.440 It's not like a perfect L, they're not perfectly up, but they're pretty fucking good. 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.840 And what I think is interesting from a coach's standpoint is that I have not been programming that. 00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:39.840 So I've seen a lot of guys talking more about the need for specificity in training versus general physical preparedness. 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:57.440 And I still believe very strongly that if you're developing all of the attributes for fitness that we want, speed, strength, power, endurance, et cetera, you're developing athleticism, the ability to, you know, throw, catch, do the same thing with weight, uh, not absorb force. 00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.639 What's the word that we were using for force absorption? 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.480 Like doing depths. 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.480 No, uh other way, like a depth drop. 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.239 Oh, we had a different word than absorption, because you're not absorbing the force. 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:11.920 You're not absorbing the sort of thing. 00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.880 Technically, what was happening is you're producing force eccentrically. 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.519 So absorbing force, we'll just say, because that's in common usage, which is fine. 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:19.920 Yeah. 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:20.239 Yeah. 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:28.800 And if you can do all of those things unilaterally, it's going to allow you to do likely the thing that you want to do, maybe not at the highest level, right? 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:34.079 So I'm sure there's some fucking rock climbing dude that weighs 140 pounds that can do 40 L set pull-ups. 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.239 Well, I'm not that guy, and that's not what I'm training for. 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:49.199 But if you're doing good training and you're you're doing a well-rounded program, it allows you to do those other things, which I think is a really important thought in the context of this conversation of or or this topic rather. 00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:51.199 When you get burned out, and what do you do? 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.960 If your fitness isn't the limiting factor, you can go do whatever the fuck you want. 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:55.199 Yeah. 00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:01.039 And if you're outside playing, you're being active, et cetera, and that's going to bring you back into the strength and conditioning program. 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:02.320 Great, go do it for a week. 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.559 Well, shit, just uh this sounds lame. 00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:05.519 I was doing gardening. 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.679 No, I I brought some uh soil home. 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.480 I rented a trailer and got around two yards of soil, and it took me about an hour to empty. 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.360 But I was just thinking about it the next day, I felt it was fine. 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:16.079 It was fine. 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:28.000 I just I just think about my stepfather-in-law who lives right up the road, not the one I've talked about before, but he bought three bags of soil that were around 30 to 45 pounds, and he couldn't do it, he didn't want to do it. 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.679 I don't know, I'm I don't know if he could have, but he he needed to call me. 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:38.400 It's like, yo, that's why we train so that for those moments, now that's a real life task, but yeah, also with exercises too. 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:48.239 I can't tell you how many times where when I was training other athletes in the weight room, let's say a tactical athlete, and there would be some, I the joke is I'm a run one rep wonder. 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:49.039 Great story. 00:55:49.199 -->

00:55:57.039 So a friend of mine that I interned with at Exos, I had been working for Exos for two or three years, and I got sent to the UK to go work with the SAS. 00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:11.440 And I my friend lives over there, so I drove down to where he was, and at the time he was working for the University of Exeter, which at that time was one of the, if not the top, one of the top colleges or universities regarding athletics in the country. 00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.840 So he asked me if I would be willing, man, he was running me ragged, dude. 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.559 I thought I was on vacation visiting a friend, and he had me speaking to all these people is fucking crazy. 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:27.039 So anyway, he has me speaking to his staff instead of me fucking relaxing and like, you know, hanging out with my buddy, he's like, Oh, can you speak to my staff? 00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:28.639 Like, I'm fucking teaching now. 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:36.719 And I remember he asked me to demonstrate absolute speed technique, and he realized in that moment he fucked up because he he wasn't sure if I could do it. 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.400 I I saw the look, he like it came out of his mouth, and then he got kind of insecure. 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.639 The look of insecurity came across as yeah, kind of like that. 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.079 He's like, Oh shit, I just fucked him. 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:45.519 I was like, Yeah, I could do that. 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:46.159 And I did it. 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:47.360 Fine, it was perfect. 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:48.880 No, no notes, so to speak. 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.119 And yeah, that's why we do this stuff. 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:51.599 Yeah. 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:53.039 For those kinds of moments. 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.599 So that you can be as advertised. 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:56.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:57.280 All right. 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.559 Well, I feel like this is a great place to finish. 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.239 Any parting thoughts, Brent? 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:03.440 Got nothing, man. 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:04.159 All right. 00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:05.440 Hopefully, people enjoy our. 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.400 Let us know if you like us fielding the questions and answering them, because I think that's a great tool. 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.159 We could actually probably do some more. 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.119 I would love that. 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:19.440 If we had, if there's a way to create some kind of it wouldn't be a page on the website because that sounds very formal and kind of lame. 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.840 I'll just have them shoot in like I'll put up a story of a podcast coming up. 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.199 We're actually we're about to book out another long form content shoot. 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:29.440 So I gotta get some good ideas for that as well. 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.199 Yeah, that's yeah, I'm excited. 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:32.239 All right, listeners. 00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:33.280 That's it for today. 00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:34.400 We'll see you on the next one. 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:35.440 Dive living.