Serial Killer Documentary - Katherine Knight： Cannibal, Psychopath, Mother and Wife

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Tonight on Beyond the Dark Lands, meet the woman who
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committed a crime so barbaric it shocked the world and
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brought the worst kind of fame to the small town
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of Aberdeen.
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She wasn't mad. She was just evil.
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She could switch on and off so quickly.
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It was just that explosive anger which would come out
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to the extreme.
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Following years of brutal attacks, Catherine Knight committed a murder
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that's almost incomprehensible.
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I couldn't believe it.
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I was horrified.
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She took a sort of malevolent pleasure in death.
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In 2001, Catherine Knight was the first Australian woman to
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be jailed for the term of her natural life, never
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to be released.
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I went out and cut his dog's throat.
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Was the dog dead?
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It was a clean cut, they said.
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Tonight, clinical psychologist Dr. Leah Jaritano takes us inside the
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mind of Australia's most vicious female killer and explains why
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she comes from beyond the dark lands.
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This is one of the most distressing and disturbing murders
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ever committed in this country. In fact, this horrendous slaughter
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is notorious around the world, not just for its gruesome brutality,
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but because it was committed by a rare creature, a
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female psychopath. To even try to make sense of how
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Catherine Knight could commit such a terrible act, we need
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to understand where she came from and where she was
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always destined to go.
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This story takes place in New South Wales at the
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Upper Hunter Valley in coal mining and cattle country. At
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the heart of the story is the Aberdeen Meatworks, the
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town's lifeblood for more than 100 years. In the 1940s,
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the manager of the abattoir was Jack Rowan. He was
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married to Barbara and they had four sons. It was
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a huge scandal when Barbara ran off with another abattoir
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worker Ken Knight. Ken and Barbara had four more children,
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two boys and two girls. Among them was Catherine Mary Knight,
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born on the 24th of October 1955 at Tamworth Hospital,
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just half an hour after her twin sister Joy.
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They were hard people. They were abattoir workers. They were itinerant.
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They moved around a lot. They grew up in abusive
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families and they were abusive families.
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It was all they knew.
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Catherine and Joy were toddlers when their mother's first husband died,
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leaving Barbara to raise eight children.
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Catherine moved through a lot of schools. She was very
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close to her sister Joy, but she didn't have a
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lot of close friends. And Catherine was not a confident
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girl and didn't make friends easily. She had a terrible temper,
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but she was also very shy.
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Catherine craved her mother's love and affection, even though she
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claims Barbara frequently beat her.
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When a child is brought up like that, a child
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turns out very damaged goods, as Catherine did, and a
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lot of her siblings did too.
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Ken wasn't one to back down from hitting his wife
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or kids. But according to family, Barbara gave almost as
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good as she got.
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Catherine and some of her partners alleged that her father
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was very violent towards her mother, that he demanded sex
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and he got it no matter what went on.
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Catherine was witness to this. It was never hidden.
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And Catherine also suggests that she was the victim of
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abuse at the hands of family members, sexual and physical abuse.
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By age three or four, something would already have died
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within Catherine. She knew no one was going to come
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to make things better. So she had to learn to
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fight or to hide. Obviously, very young children can't fight back.
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So when they're under severe threat, some will dissociate. This
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is more or less like a circuit tripping. Catherine was
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overwhelmed and she mentally disconnected. But while she was in
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that state, she was missing out on developing the range
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of emotions that make us human, emotions like love, happiness,
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joy and empathy.
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Catherine grew up with a fear of rape and was
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forever claiming that men had abused her. At school, she
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was known for her sudden and violent temper.
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I remember one of her classmates telling me that, She
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saw Catherine turn on her sister Joy. It was an
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argument about whose turn it was to ride the bicycle home. Now, girls,
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sisters in that situation might pinch or pull hair or
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slap each other or shout and cry.
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They beat the crap out of each other with their fists.
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At 15, Catherine left Musselbrook High School. She could barely
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read or write and had no qualifications.
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Her one great hope in life, her aspiration in life,
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was to work at the abattoir. She wanted to go
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where her brothers went, her father went, her mother had been,
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her grandfather had been.
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Everyone she knew and respected worked at the abattoir.
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At 16, she landed her dream job. She began in
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the offal room and later became a boner.
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They used to bone 600 a day and kill 600
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a day at the end. But, yeah, it was just
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like everybody in Aberdeen used to work in the meatworks.
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Catherine was in her element.
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A lot of the women and a lot of the
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people used to come up out of the bone room,
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stand there and watch through the area, watch the people
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slaughter the cattle.
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It wasn't unusual.
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The best part about the job was that she was
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given her own set of knives, blades that soon became
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her most prized possession.
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There was something disturbing about the way Catherine loved to work.
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Other workers talk of her nicking.
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Arteries just to watch the carcasses bleed or the animals bleed.
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She took a sort of malevolent pleasure in death.
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Catherine's pathological profile means she would also have had many
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fantasies about killing people. Fortunately for those around her, her
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bloodlust was partially satisfied at the abattoir. The abattoir was
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her killing field. Catherine got off on the screaming and
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the blood of the animals being put to death. She
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would also have loved the fear she instilled in others
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who watched her and saw that nothing could faze her.
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When she wasn't at work, Catherine was hanging out with
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the new bloke in town, Dave Callard, better known as
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Shorty Callard.
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She probably stood a head taller than him. I believe
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that David.
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Was Catherine's first sexual partner and once they discovered sex,
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they fell for it in a big way. And this
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was the 70s. He was a wild-drinking, wild-living young man.
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And I think one day he woke up and realised
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that he'd proposed to her.
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The violence was announced on the.
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Wedding night when David woke up with Catherine attempting.
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To choke him.
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She was furious that they hadn't had sex five times
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because Catherine had been told that her mum and dad
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had sex five.
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Times on their wedding night and she figured that this
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was normal.
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David had expired after two attempts and she tried to
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kill him.
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David died of a heart attack in 2007. But his
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sister remembers the first time he took his 18-year-old bride
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home to Coffs Harbour to meet the family.
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I think in the beginning they were madly in love.
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I thought they were totally opposite. You know, the tall
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redhead marries the little short, dark person. But then they
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say opposites attract.
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Well, she was just a girl, auburn, curly hair with glasses,
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much taller than David, and I hoped the best for them.
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I went to live with her and David in Aberdeen
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for a few months, and of course I got to
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know her a lot better then.
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She was working at the abattoirs. She was lovely. She
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was very charming. We got on very well, actually. Most
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of the time that they were married, Cathy and I
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got on very, very well.
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There was always something about the family that I wasn't
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sure of. I just felt there was a roughness around
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the edges.
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But the most worrying thing about Catherine was her rapid
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mood changes.
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She could be extremely happy.
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She'd walk around the house humming and singing and the
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next minute she'd just fly into a rage. When Cathy
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was cranky, she got this strength about her. She became
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so strong that she could have picked David up and
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thrown him across the room.
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Catherine had already begun threatening people with her treasured knives,
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which were never far from reach.
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And that's what David always said to us.
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Once she gets cranky, just get out of the way,
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because if she picked up a knife or whatever, it
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was too late to get out.
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Of the way.
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By her 20th birthday, Catherine was pregnant and highly suspicious
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of her husband, who had found himself a new girlfriend.
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David wasn't the most loyal husband and admitted to me
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later that he had pretty poor morals at that period
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of his life. He was just a young man. bloke
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and I suspect he wasn't always that comfortable at home anyway.
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Catherine and David's baby, Melissa, was born on the 11th
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of May 1976. Six weeks later, Catherine tried to stab
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her husband with a broken beer bottle. Sick of his
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wife's psycho ways, Kellett ran away to Queensland with his
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new girlfriend, having no idea of the lengths his wife
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would go to to punish him for leaving her. In
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July 1976, 20 year old Catherine Knight was furious. Her
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husband of two years had recently abandoned her, leaving Catherine
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with their two month old baby. Catherine was obsessively jealous
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and knowing David had run off with another woman, sent
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her right over the edge.
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Catherine was seen walking down the main street of Aberdeen,
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swinging the pram violently from one side to the other.
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She was dishevelled, she was wailing, she was a mad woman.
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And it looked like at one stage she was going
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to send the pram hurling into the traffic.
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The police were called, and Catherine was admitted to St
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Elmo's Psychiatric Hospital in Tamworth.
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She was treated with antidepressants.
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She was back home after a couple of weeks, but
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there was still no sign of David and her rage
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hadn't subsided. Unaware she was being watched by Lorna from
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the corner store, she placed 12-week-old Melissa on the railway
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tracks and walked away. The southbound train was due any minute.
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Ted Abrahams found the baby on the track before the
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train came.
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It was a touch-and-go thing, I believe.
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And then in the meantime, she left the line and
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went up to a house just up the road and
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raced into the backyard of it and grabbed the axe
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and was swinging it around in her head.
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Catherine was taken back to the same psychiatric ward at
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St Elmo's Hospital, but checked herself out the same day.
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Less than 24 hours later, she snapped again.
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She went around to a neighbour's house and knocked on
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the door and said, my baby's ill, you need to
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drive me to the hospital.
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The family agreed.
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Catherine went home and the woman and her children drove
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to Catherine's place and found her very agitated.
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And one of the daughters went in with Catherine to
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get Melissa out of the cot. Instead of getting Melissa
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out of the cot, Catherine produced a knife and began
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chasing this teenage girl out of the house. She slashed
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her face under the lemon tree. Then she took the
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family hostage and said that she wanted them to drive
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her to David Kellett's mother's house.
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She wanted to kill David's mother.
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She knew a surefire way to get a man's attention
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was to go after his mum.
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Somehow the family convinced Catherine that they needed to stop
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at the service station and that one of the boys
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should be let go because.
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He was asthmatic.
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The boy alerted the police.
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It took two policemen and the service station attendant to
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quieten Catherine down.
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She was swinging a.
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Big metal rod at the service station attendant, threatening to
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kill people.
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Again, she wasn't charged. Again, she was shipped off to
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a mental institution.
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Catherine uses violence and fear to intimidate people into doing
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exactly as she wants. She's seen it done in her
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own family and she's carrying on the tradition. But while
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Catherine's rage is at times spontaneous, At other times, she's
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coldly calculating. You see, Catherine enjoys seeing people terrified of
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her unpredictability. She's amused by their fear.
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In Queensland, things weren't working out for David and his
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now pregnant girlfriend.
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When David heard what had happened with Catherine back in Aberdeen,
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he called his mother and they decided to go back
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and collect her from the psychiatric institution at Morissette.
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Catherine was released into Florence's care. The following day, David
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drove his wife and mother to Aberdeen to pick up
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baby Melissa. This was only the second time Florence had
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met Catherine's mother, Barbara.
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Cathy's mother came out to the car, proceeded to choke
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David through the window.
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I was petrified.
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David.
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David just.
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I held the steering wheel.
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David's mother was sitting in the back of the car,
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freaking out. She didn't know what to do.
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She'd never seen people behave like this in her life.
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She was a very nice woman.
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Cathy came out, saw what her mother was doing, hit
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her with a fist across the head and knocked her
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mother down. That saved David's life.
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Here was the father yelling, the mother unconscious in the dirt,
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the daughter with the grazed knuckles from what she'd just done.
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It was a circus.
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A few weeks later, Catherine and David relocated to Woodridge
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in Queensland.
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To make a fresh start.
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David got a job driving trucks and Catherine began work
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at an abattoir near Brisbane. In October 76, David organised
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a surprise 21st party for his wife.
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And she was just so thrilled that she couldn't stop
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kissing him all night because she was feeling like a
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princess for a night.
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That night she was so well behaved and it was
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a good night. We all enjoyed ourselves.
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It was in Queensland that Catherine's love of her work
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knives became obsessive. She started taking them everywhere she went.
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She even hung them above the bed when she slept.
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And I said to Cathy, why do you have knives
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in the bed or hang them on the wall? She said,
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shrugged her shoulders and with a pout, you know, she
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was just childlike. They're there in case I need them.
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They were her pride and joy. I think she loved
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her knives as much as she loved David.
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While staying with them at Woodridge, Sandy witnessed one vicious
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act she'll never forget.
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There was one occasion that I heard one of her
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children crying very, very loudly in the bathroom. And I
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went in to see why there was so much crying
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in the bathroom. And she had the hot tap on
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and she was holding her daughter under.
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The hot tap. I told David what I saw.
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And my brother said, promise me, Sandy, you won't say
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anything to Kathy tonight because she will kill you in
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your sleep and she will most likely kill me.
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By 1979, the couple's marriage was in real trouble. David
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found Catherine in bed with another man. She begged him
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for one more chance. They moved to Landsborough and Catherine
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convinced her husband to have another baby.
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Cathy's moods became worse. She became more violent. And by then,
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David was quite scared of being married to her.
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David had every reason to be scared.
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He never knew what was going to set Catherine off
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and just how brutal she was going to be. The
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next attack would come when he was least expecting it
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and would almost kill him. It was 1979. and Catherine
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was pregnant with her second child. Her six-year marriage to
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David wasn't going well. He was now very scared of
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his wife, never knowing when she would attack him. One night,
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he was late home from the pub because he'd made
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the finals of the darts competition.
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She hated men being late.
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But David put it out of the back of his mind,
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played in the final, God knows if he won or lost,
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but he certainly lost when he got home.
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Because he walked through the door and she caved in
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the back of his head with a skillet. She fractured
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his skull.
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He staggered to a neighbour's place before collapsing.
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I thought he was going to die.
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I thought she'd cut him in half on the head
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because there was just so much blood.
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David spent the next week in hospital. Back home, he
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discovered what Catherine had been doing while he'd been playing darts.
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She grabbed all his stuff and put it all in
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the bathtub.
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And burnt his shoes, his belts, his socks, his shirts,
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his shorts.
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He only had the clothes he had on.
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The police wanted to press very serious charges against her,
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but she was back to her sweetest and best and
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pleaded with him not to do it for the sake
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of their children, and he didn't press charges, but she very.
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Nearly killed him.
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In March 1980, 24-year-old Catherine Knight gave birth to Natasha
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Callett at Nambour Hospital. Around this time, David was driving
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furniture trucks, which involved being away a lot.
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This led to more anxiety and more madness.
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One night he woke up with her threatening to stab him.
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She said, I know you truck drivers have women in
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every town you've got one, haven't you?
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You've got one. He denied it. He probably did, but
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he denied it.
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This eventually put so much strain on their relationship that
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one day he came home and she'd gone. Out of
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the blue, everything was gone and she went back home
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to Aberdeen.
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It might look like Catherine has a terrible fear of abandonment,
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that she lashes out when she's frightened David will leave her.
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In fact, Catherine's anger is triggered when someone doesn't do
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exactly what she wants. She's not hopelessly in love with
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David and unable to live without him. She's already cheated
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on him once, and when it suited her, she left him.
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When Catherine got back to Aberdeen with the two kids,
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she wasn't alone very long. She took up with a
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local bloke called Dave Saunders, who sort of fitted the
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bill with blokes that Catherine went out with. He was
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a hard-working, hard-drinking, hard-talking sort of man.
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Saunders was a former speedway driver who was working at
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the coal mines when he met Catherine in 1986.
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He and his.
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Dingo pup soon moved from Scone to Aberdeen to live
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with Catherine and her daughters. But Saunders reckons the honeymoon
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period only lasted a couple of months.
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One night, he opened the door of the house to
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be met by Catherine, who was in the middle of
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the ironing. She didn't put the iron down to greet him.
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She swung it and smashed him in the face with
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the iron. Apparently, they said you could see the steam
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marks on the side of his face for weeks later.
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But she wasn't finished.
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She had him by one arm and was swinging him
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around the front room of the house, attempting to cave
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his skull in with the iron. The only reason she
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was doing this is because he was late home Why
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did Dave Saunders stay with Catherine Knight? Why did Dave
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Callot stay with Catherine Knight? Apparently she was fantastic in bed.
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Things had gotten worse with Saunders. One particularly ugly fight
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began when he tried to leave her. The fight ended
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when Catherine ran outside. Saunders followed and saw she was
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nursing his dingo pup. He realised she was holding a
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knife and she'd slit his dog's throat. It was dying
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in front of his eyes. She was that angry at
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him for leaving her that she killed his dog.
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After she'd killed the dog, she turned up at her
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sister Joy's place with a shotgun, saying she'd killed Dave Saunders.
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Catherine has two reasons for telling her sister Joy she's
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killed Dave. The first is for the shock and distress
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this will create. She finds this funny. The second reason
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is because she's actually planning his death. She's rehearsing the
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method of murder in her mind, and she's experiencing people's
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reaction to the news without going.
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Through with it.
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After she killed the dog, Saunders tried to leave Catherine
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a few times.
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He moved in with mates, but she would never let
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him go. She was very persistent.
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In June 1988, Catherine and Saunders had a baby daughter.
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Saunders bought an old weatherboard cottage at McQueen Street. When
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their baby was six months old, they moved in. But
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things hadn't improved and Saunders kept trying to escape.
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He took long service leave from the mine and told
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her he was going to visit a mate in another town.
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He wasn't going to another town and he wasn't coming
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back either as far as.
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He was concerned.
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He disappeared and he'd gone to Newcastle and he hid
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in Newcastle, got another job.
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The fiery redhead was furious that Saunders had managed to
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get away and so she told their two-year-old daughter her
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father was dead. While searching for Saunders, she stumbled upon
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her next prey. This relationship followed her usual pattern.
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Pretty soon after they got together, she was pregnant. Pretty
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soon after that, their relationship turned violent. At one stage,
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she broke his.
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Glasses, she hit him. There are a lot of allegations
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that he hit her.
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This hook-up produced Catherine's first and only son. He was
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born in March 1991, just 11 months after they met.
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Their relationship came to a sticky end. She left him
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with the kids. He felt the abandonment this time and
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tried to follow her about, but she'd already found a
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new bloke, and that bloke was John Price.
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Unfortunately for John Price.
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No one could have foreseen the acts of untold horror
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that were awaiting him. Catherine Knight had four children to
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three former partners. All her exes claimed she used to
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beat them up. In October 1993, she met John Price.
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Both were 38 years old. Pricey had an ex-wife and
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three kids he adored. He was the one for Catherine
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and she had no intention of letting him get away.
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Pricey was another bloke who'd left school early, loved to drink,
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drove big trucks, worked at the mine.
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You know, he was your knockabout, ordinary Australian bloke.
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Well, I only met him for a few moments and
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I thought, what a lovely man. A real country, a
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lovely man. He shook my hand and I went, wow,
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you know, good manners too.
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All four of her partners were very similar people. And
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there was rarely a night in their lives that they
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were sober, at least when they were with Catherine.
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Initially, the relationship was good.
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They got on quite well.
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Like, they could sit down and have a conversation and
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have meals and, you know, I never really seen much arguing.
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I actually didn't mind her. I knew she was different
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and I knew she was... She was good for Dad,
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but she wasn't good for Dad. She had a lot
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of good points and she had a lot of bad points,
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but the same with Dad. He had good points and
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he had bad points.
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But some of Catherine's bad points were just downright strange.
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She'd swerve to hit a dog, like a dog would
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run across the road and she'd swerve.
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To hit it. Like, Kath, what are you doing that for?
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She's like, I don't like dogs.
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The relationship followed the usual pattern.
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This time she didn't get pregnant. She was getting older.
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But there was violence. She beat him. Perhaps he beat her,
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I don't know. She says that he did.
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His children say that there were scars on his body
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from where she'd stabbed him and hit him.
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Pricey's nickname for Catherine was the Speckled Hen. After about
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18 months, the Speckled Hen was pushing for a lifelong commitment.
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Pricey told her he was only in it for the
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sex and she ought to get used to it.
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She wanted Dad to marry her. She wanted Dad to
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marry her. And Dad wouldn't.
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When Pricey wouldn't do what she wanted, she'd try to
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hurt his children.
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I was, what, a 13-year-old girl, 14-year-old girl, and I'd
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just come home and she sat me down, like, really
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serious conversation to tell me that my father wasn't, you know,
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I wasn't my father's, that my mother had slept with
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some other bloke, and, you know, I didn't belong to
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my father.
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Although they weren't officially living together, Catherine treated Pricey's place
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like it was her own. Pricey told friends he wanted
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her out of his house, but in Catherine's mind, the
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house was rightly hers. When she found Pricey's will and
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saw he'd left everything to his ex-wife and kids, she
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demanded $ 10, 000 to leave. When Pricey refused to give her anything,
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she got a video camera and filmed the first aid
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kits he'd stolen from work.
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Catherine said to me, I've got him good and proper now,
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and I said, What do you mean? And she said,
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I taped the stuff that he got from work he
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wasn't supposed to have. And she said, and I sent
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a video to his workplace and to the cops. And
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00:27:59.369 --> 00:28:01.190
she said, that's fixed him. He's lost his job now.
497
00:28:02.490 --> 00:28:06.119
And I can remember thinking at the time, oh, my God,
498
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.599
how could you do that to anybody?
499
00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:14.400
Pricey was 43 and unemployed. Catherine told her daughter Natasha
500
00:28:14.420 --> 00:28:17.619
that if Pricey took her back this time, it would
501
00:28:17.660 --> 00:28:18.619
be until death.
502
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:24.130
I don't know why I went back to her. Maybe
503
00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:26.170
he just felt that he needed somebody.
504
00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:26.730
I don't know.
505
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.920
Little did Pricey know that death would come sooner rather
506
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:39.180
than later. Catherine Knight was furious when she videoed first
507
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:43.160
aid kits her partner had stolen from work. She sent
508
00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:47.150
the videos to his boss and the police. John Price
509
00:28:47.190 --> 00:28:51.910
was sacked. No-one could believe Pricey would take Catherine back
510
00:28:51.990 --> 00:28:53.089
after a stunt like that.
511
00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:54.519
But he did.
512
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.900
With her two younger children now at school, Catherine was
513
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.769
spending more time alone at home, watching her disturbing horror
514
00:29:04.789 --> 00:29:07.990
movies and enjoying the death that surrounded her.
515
00:29:09.369 --> 00:29:11.710
One of her favourite places was a lounge room in
516
00:29:11.789 --> 00:29:14.789
her home. The lounge room was full of dead things.
517
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:18.210
It was full of skulls and skins and horns.
518
00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:24.250
She'd have machetes and all your old farm working stuff,
519
00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:26.619
like your little old push mowers and stuff, well they'd
520
00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:31.500
be all hanging off the roof. She'd have like animal heads,
521
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:37.400
stuff like animal heads, just all creepy country type of stuff.
522
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.440
Catherine's been obsessed with death since she was as young
523
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.420
as four or five. She keeps the trophies of dead
524
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:50.049
animals around her, partly because she finds death attractive, the
525
00:29:50.089 --> 00:29:52.950
way some of us would view art. But she also
526
00:29:53.049 --> 00:29:56.150
loves the way these corpses creep others out. They make
527
00:29:56.210 --> 00:30:00.430
people more scared of her. Catherine also watches sadistic movies
528
00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:04.240
as though they were pornography. These movies enrich her violent
529
00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:05.140
fantasy life.
530
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.619
It was late 1999 and 44-year-old Catherine was desperately trying
531
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:16.019
to hold on to her man while he was desperately
532
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.569
trying to get away from her.
533
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:21.529
Deep down, I think that he knew.
534
00:30:21.549 --> 00:30:25.190
He knew it was going to happen. He knew. If
535
00:30:26.650 --> 00:30:28.109
it wasn't him, it was going to be somebody else.
536
00:30:31.049 --> 00:30:34.039
The last few days of Pricey's life were building to
537
00:30:34.059 --> 00:30:38.599
a grisly climax. On the Sunday before his death, the
538
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.500
couple had a massive fight, which resulted in a visit
539
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:47.619
from the police. On Monday, Pricey went to work, and
540
00:30:47.660 --> 00:30:50.779
for the first time, he showed two colleagues where Catherine
541
00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:52.220
had previously stabbed him.
542
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.720
He went back to work on the Tuesday and said
543
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.339
to his boss, I've got to go to the courthouse
544
00:30:57.380 --> 00:30:58.859
and the police station to see what they can do
545
00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:00.220
to keep this crazy bitch away from me.
546
00:31:01.450 --> 00:31:04.650
The news wasn't good. Pricey was told he'd have to
547
00:31:04.690 --> 00:31:07.769
wait three weeks to go to court. He thought he'd
548
00:31:07.809 --> 00:31:10.730
probably be dead by then, but had no idea he
549
00:31:10.750 --> 00:31:13.450
was already halfway through the last day of his life.
550
00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:20.019
Workmates pleaded with him not to stay at home that night.
551
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.180
And he said, I've got to go home, because if
552
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.140
I don't, she's got to go after me or my kids,
553
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.430
and I'd sooner get me than my kids. And she did.
554
00:31:31.549 --> 00:31:34.859
While Pricey was busy trying to get help, Catherine was
555
00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:38.779
playing out her fantasy. She bought a sexy black nightie
556
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.160
and then went to Natasha's place to make a.
557
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:42.539
Final family video.
558
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.440
On the videos, she's kissing and hugging her children and
559
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.119
making statements that could be perceived to be her last
560
00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:53.079
will and testament.
561
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.400
Don't forget that old cane pram that my mum owned.
562
00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:03.599
I own, you own. She arrived at St Andrews Street
563
00:32:03.619 --> 00:32:06.940
around 11.30pm. Pricey was asleep.
564
00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:11.140
She watched some TV, had a shower, put on the
565
00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:13.119
new black nightie and went to bed.
566
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.430
They had sex. And then she struck.
567
00:32:20.910 --> 00:32:24.009
Pricey's workmates were immediately worried when he didn't show up
568
00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:24.829
the next day.
569
00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:28.440
John Price was a person who was always the first
570
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.119
to arrive at work. That's why the concern was raised
571
00:32:31.670 --> 00:32:34.029
Concerns were raised very early by his workmates.
572
00:32:34.730 --> 00:32:37.769
Apparently, they just kept ringing and ringing and ringing. And
573
00:32:39.289 --> 00:32:43.880
there was no answer. So they all pretty well knew.
574
00:32:45.819 --> 00:32:47.180
Price had predicted his death.
575
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.440
He'd run around town for days trying to get help
576
00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.099
from magistrates and police and neighbours.
577
00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:56.410
But nobody took him seriously enough, unfortunately.
578
00:32:58.740 --> 00:33:02.109
Police were called and a crowd of concerned locals gathered
579
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:07.970
outside 84 St Andrews Street. When police forced their way
580
00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:11.410
into the house, they found Catherine Knight asleep on the bed.
581
00:33:12.289 --> 00:33:14.750
She had swallowed a number of pills and was.
582
00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:15.049
Out of it.
583
00:33:16.349 --> 00:33:18.329
A good friend of mine, she said she was there
584
00:33:18.390 --> 00:33:20.690
the morning they brought her out. She said, Rosie, I
585
00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:23.089
don't care what anybody says. She walked out of that
586
00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:25.210
house as sane as you and I. She said the
587
00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:26.690
only one she looked at was my brother and she
588
00:33:26.730 --> 00:33:28.359
said she just had a grin on her face. and
589
00:33:28.380 --> 00:33:29.539
my brother just dropped to his knees.
590
00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:34.680
When Detective Sergeant Bob Wells arrived at the scene, Catherine
591
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.940
Knight was being taken away in an ambulance.
592
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:41.019
I initially spoke with the duty officer at the time
593
00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:46.500
who briefed me basically of what he'd witnessed inside the premises.
594
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.440
I then went into the house and it was just
595
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.109
totally horrific and it was a shock to everybody that
596
00:33:53.809 --> 00:33:56.950
had anything to do with that particular crime scene. I
597
00:33:56.970 --> 00:33:59.930
just couldn't believe that one human being, either male or female,
598
00:34:00.470 --> 00:34:08.239
without species, could carry out such a calculated offence.
599
00:34:16.750 --> 00:34:22.590
Catherine Knight stabbed John Price 37 times before skinning, beheading,
600
00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:26.860
and further mutilating his corpse. She then cooked parts of
601
00:34:26.889 --> 00:34:28.760
his body, including his head.
602
00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.719
She'd prepared two plates for his children.
603
00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:35.840
The meals consisted of human meat and vegetables.
604
00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:40.659
There was a note beside each plate. It was writing
605
00:34:40.699 --> 00:34:44.019
on it with the names.
606
00:34:45.889 --> 00:34:46.739
John and Bec.
607
00:34:47.650 --> 00:34:48.849
She didn't leave me one.
608
00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:52.250
Apparently she'd actually put knives through their photos.
609
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:53.579
Left mine alone.
610
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.639
Yeah, she's left a couple of notes to my brother
611
00:34:59.659 --> 00:35:03.010
and myself. It was more or less along the lines of,
612
00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:05.989
if I can't have your father, nobody else will have
613
00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:06.530
him either.
614
00:35:08.090 --> 00:35:11.570
It didn't take long for the unfathomable news to spread.
615
00:35:11.590 --> 00:35:15.139
It came over the radio that a lady from Aberdeen
616
00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:19.599
had killed her husband and I just looked at my
617
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.699
husband and I said, you know, that would have to
618
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:22.460
be my sister-in-law.
619
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.179
It couldn't be anybody else. It would have to be Cathy.
620
00:35:26.139 --> 00:35:29.420
And my husband said, you know, Sandy, you've said a
621
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.920
lot of things about her over the years, but I
622
00:35:30.940 --> 00:35:33.949
don't think she's that crazy. And then it came over
623
00:35:33.969 --> 00:35:36.969
the news only hours later that it was Cathy.
624
00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:40.329
And it was no surprise to me. It was no
625
00:35:40.369 --> 00:35:41.769
surprise to any of our family.
626
00:35:42.889 --> 00:35:46.489
The police had the dreadful task of informing Pricey's family.
627
00:35:46.510 --> 00:35:50.909
They spoke to his son, Jonathan, but no-one knew how
628
00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:55.420
to tell 14-year-old Rebecca... She read the horrendous details in
629
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:56.159
a newspaper.
630
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.510
I just asked my mum if it was true. She
631
00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:03.369
said yes. I just laid on the floor for about
632
00:36:03.409 --> 00:36:08.030
three hours and couldn't move. I was just so sick. Sick, that's, yeah,
633
00:36:08.050 --> 00:36:11.690
I was just so sick. Just wanted to vomit. I just, yeah,
634
00:36:11.730 --> 00:36:12.369
couldn't believe it.
635
00:36:13.949 --> 00:36:17.030
For the next six days, Catherine was at Musselbrook and
636
00:36:17.070 --> 00:36:20.590
Maitland hospitals. She claimed to have no knowledge of the
637
00:36:20.650 --> 00:36:25.030
monstrous crime she had committed. But two things would lead
638
00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:29.289
to her undoing. Greed and the testimony from one of
639
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:39.119
those closest to her. Catherine Knight stabbed her lover 37 times.
640
00:36:39.980 --> 00:36:44.420
She skinned, beheaded and cooked parts of him. She then
641
00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:46.800
took some pills to make it look like she'd tried
642
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.880
to take her own life. Detective Sergeant Bob Wells first
643
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.659
interviewed Catherine at Maitland Hospital just a few days after
644
00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:56.099
the murder.
645
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.699
Do you recall Pricey being in the bed? I can't
646
00:36:59.739 --> 00:37:00.500
remember anything.
647
00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:04.320
Do you recall yourself going to bed?
648
00:37:08.139 --> 00:37:08.539
Faintly.
649
00:37:10.099 --> 00:37:12.280
Although she claims to have no memory of the night
650
00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:16.420
of Pricey's death, she did remember stabbing him six months earlier.
651
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:22.170
Once Pricey got off the phone He started on me
652
00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:26.409
and I was around washing up and it could have
653
00:37:26.449 --> 00:37:28.610
been a fork, a spoon or anything in my hand.
654
00:37:28.650 --> 00:37:31.949
It was a knife that cut your meal with and
655
00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:33.699
I aimed it at him and it got him.
656
00:37:35.179 --> 00:37:40.019
He was leaning closer than what I thought and my
657
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.880
eyesight was bad at that time. I've only had new
658
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:42.780
glasses since then.
659
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.800
You had this notion that Catherine Knight might have been
660
00:37:46.820 --> 00:37:48.980
the most evil woman to ever walk the planet. You
661
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.500
didn't want to walk into the same room as her.
662
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.639
You didn't want to set eyes on her. But what
663
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:56.099
was most surprising was when you did see her, just
664
00:37:56.179 --> 00:37:59.800
how terribly ordinary she looked. She could have been a librarian.
665
00:38:00.699 --> 00:38:02.440
If you walked past her in the supermarket, you wouldn't
666
00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:02.880
have thought.
667
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.699
Twice of it. She was a very ordinary-looking woman.
668
00:38:08.139 --> 00:38:11.300
They showed the video of the crime scene in court,
669
00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:13.429
and it's perhaps the most horrific video.
670
00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:15.190
you would ever wish to see.
671
00:38:15.210 --> 00:38:19.789
It's just unimaginable what the police saw that day and
672
00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:25.530
what was recorded on that video. The skin looked like
673
00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:27.900
a wetsuit. It took you a while to work out
674
00:38:27.940 --> 00:38:29.739
what it was. It was hanging on a butcher's hook
675
00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:32.739
in the doorway. It had all come off in one piece.
676
00:38:34.219 --> 00:38:36.039
Probably the worst bit of the video was when they
677
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.619
went to the stove in the kitchen and you see
678
00:38:38.699 --> 00:38:41.380
the gloved hand of a forensic policeman take the lid
679
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.550
off the pot on the top of the stove. And
680
00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:48.650
inside it's Price's head staring back up at the camera.
681
00:38:49.610 --> 00:38:52.869
That to me is Cathy showing her ultimate power.
682
00:38:56.869 --> 00:39:02.530
I've suffered a nervous breakdown in relation to my involvement
683
00:39:02.550 --> 00:39:05.550
in this matter. I know that it had a huge
684
00:39:05.610 --> 00:39:10.949
impact on the officers that day. Although Catherine had displayed
685
00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:16.090
this bizarre behaviour, committed this absolutely shocking and horrific crime,
686
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.119
that through the tests that those psychiatrists carried out, they
687
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.980
believed that she was not suffering from any form of
688
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:23.659
mental illness.
689
00:39:26.090 --> 00:39:28.969
Further evidence to support she was of sound mind was
690
00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:33.340
discovered by John Price's solicitor, who noticed money had been
691
00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:36.139
withdrawn from Price's account the night he was killed.
692
00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:41.269
Catherine had gone and driven some substantial distance to the
693
00:39:41.289 --> 00:39:45.309
township of Musselbrook, where she withdrew $ 1, 000 from John Price's
694
00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:56.070
account bank account by way of using his key card.
695
00:39:57.590 --> 00:40:00.789
And then after all that, returning to the crime scene.
696
00:40:01.789 --> 00:40:03.530
She was trying to plead insanity and she told her
697
00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:05.530
brother that she's going to kill Pricey.
698
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:06.929
She said, I'm going to kill him and she said,
699
00:40:06.949 --> 00:40:07.800
I'm going to get away with it.
700
00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:09.559
She said, I'm going to do it in the way
701
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:10.219
to make him think.
702
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:10.739
That I'm crazy.
703
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.480
And her brother had actually made a statement against her
704
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:18.780
about her saying that.
705
00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:23.769
She told him three weeks before she murdered Dad.
706
00:40:25.699 --> 00:40:29.719
David rang me and he said, you know, she's finally
707
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.679
done it. And I said, how do you feel about that?
708
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.840
He said, Sandy, I just cannot believe that it was
709
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.880
not me.
710
00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:44.860
On 18 October 2001, Catherine Knight pleaded guilty to murdering
711
00:40:44.929 --> 00:40:48.949
John Price. She was sentenced to life imprisonment.
712
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.920
I don't know, for some reason, I just can't seem
713
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.239
to hate her. I can't feel the hate. But a
714
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.659
lot of my friends have always said to me that's
715
00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:01.860
a good thing, that that's a lot of my dad
716
00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:04.960
inside me because dad was how dad was.
717
00:41:05.019 --> 00:41:07.059
He was, he didn't hate anybody. And he used to
718
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.179
say to me, babe, just be happy. Just be happy.
719
00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:09.820
Just be happy.
720
00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:17.630
I can remember asking her sister, Joy, had she been
721
00:41:17.670 --> 00:41:20.969
to see Catherine and I think at that point in
722
00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:24.059
time she'd been twice, but Catherine had said to her
723
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.699
that she didn't want visitors and that she was happy
724
00:41:28.739 --> 00:41:30.920
where she was because she felt safe now.
725
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.460
I'd never been tempted to visit Catherine Knight in prison.
726
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:38.679
I've spent most of.
727
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:39.380
My time.
728
00:41:41.530 --> 00:41:48.590
Through treatment trying to forget about the actions of Catherine Knight, basically.
729
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.380
With all of the partners that survived Catherine Knight, whenever
730
00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:55.769
I sat down to talk to them, here were tough men,
731
00:41:56.030 --> 00:42:01.469
calloused hands, cigarettes, rough faces, rough talking. All three at
732
00:42:01.929 --> 00:42:04.469
one stage or another burst into tears as they described
733
00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:08.610
the violence they suffered at her hands. They were genuine
734
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.639
victims of domestic violence. No matter how hard their outer shell,
735
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.239
they were rattled by what Catherine had done to them
736
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.400
and they remained rattled for decades later.
737
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.639
So could it be possible that Catherine Knight was sane
738
00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:25.679
when she committed this murder? How could someone in their
739
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.050
right mind do something so completely deranged? Well, the fact
740
00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:33.889
is that Catherine was not insane when she butchered John Price.
741
00:42:34.449 --> 00:42:37.329
She planned what she was doing, she knew right from wrong,
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and there were no voices telling her to kill him.
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She was coldly lucid throughout the murder and dismemberment. And
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not only was she in her right mind, She was
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having one of the best times of her life. So
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if she's not mad, is Catherine just bad? Is she
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some kind of evil monster, completely alien to the rest
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of us? Catherine Knight's personality is best summed up in
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one word, psychopath. She's ruthless, self-serving, incapable of feeling guilt
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and dangerous until the day she dies.
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For the first time, the real story behind Australia's notorious Mr.
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Asia.
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He was a vicious little bugger. How he got beautiful
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young women under his spell.
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He had something about him that people were attracted to.
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The corpse he had under his thumb.
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Goodbye the New South Wales and the Queensland police for
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a hamburger.
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And why most of his friends ended belly up. A
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lot more people disappeared than we had found out about.
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The true story of Terry Clark. Seven's new Beyond the
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Dark Lands. Next Monday, 9.30.