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In the early hours of New Year's Day, 1981, police
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in St. Paul, Minnesota, received an hysterical 911 call. The
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anonymous call was made by her attacker, and it was
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to be the first of many.
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She was badly beaten. with a tire iron, left for
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dead in the snow. When I went there the next morning,
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the blood was still in the snow, and we thought,
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there's no way this person who'd been so viciously beaten
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could have survived.
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The assailant soon became known as the weepy voice killer.
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His eerie tones were so distinctive that he was quickly
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linked to many more attacks.
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You knew that it was the same person. I've listened
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to those calls so many times over the years. So
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you know that it's the same person making these phone calls.
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I think he was looking for absolution, and he never
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got it.
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He had confessed his sins, but there was no forgiveness
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for Paul Stefani, the weepy voice killer, who'd become one
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of the world's most evil killers. Between January 1981 and
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August 1982, police in the twin cities of Minneapolis and St.
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Paul received a series of disturbing, anonymous phone calls from
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a serial killer. Each time, they were linked to the
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discovery of a woman's body. I can't stop myself.
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I keep killing somebody. There was a sense of urgency
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of the danger that he was out there and also
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a sense that he wanted to be caught because I
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can't remember a time in 40 years of covering crime
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of somebody calling up and leading police that way to
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the victims and seeming hysterical. There was a lot of
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fear in the community. There was a sense that this
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would be solved quickly, that the voice would be recognized.
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But then nothing happened.
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The now infamous whiny voice in the 911 calls caused
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him to be dubbed the weepy-voiced killer. He brutally attacked
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five women.
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This isn't somebody who wants to be caught. It's somebody
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who wants status, who wants recognition. He is absolutely desperate
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to be seen as a serial killer. He wants a recognition.
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of being a serial killer. That's something that's quite important
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to him.
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This killer's story begins in Minnesota. Paul Michael Stefani was
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born on the 8th of September, 1944.
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Paul Stefani was born in a smaller town down in
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southern Minnesota by Austin. It's my understanding that his parents
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divorced and that he had a very strict stepfather who
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was a devout Catholic.
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It's quite interesting looking at the religious background of serial
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killers because it tends to affect them in one of
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two ways. On the one hand, they might use the
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kind of values that they've grown up with as a
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justification for their behavior. On the other hand, their failure
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to live up to those values might be something that
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they feel fundamentally ashamed of, and it's that shame that
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actually drives their offending.
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He seemed to have a strong bond with his mother.
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There's a strength there, so there was nothing that I
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could find that made any sense that could even explain
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why he did what he did.
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I think there would have been quite clear boundaries around
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what's acceptable, what's not acceptable, ideas about sin.
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Stefani had been diagnosed with epilepsy as a child, and
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when he kept losing his jobs as an adult, he
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blamed the condition. Nevertheless, he did appear to settle down.
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He moved out of Austin to St. Paul, and by
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the age of 26, had met his wife.
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In 1970, he got married. So far, so normal. Didn't
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last all that long. They divorced five years later.
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The 1970s, there's still quite a bit of stigma around divorce,
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especially within Catholic communities. So I think this, on his part,
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perhaps would have been seen as something of a failure.
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So I think it's quite an interesting element of his background.
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Sometime after his divorce, Stefani went off the rails and
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showed his violent side for the first time. The details
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of the incident are unknown, but Stefani was convicted of assault,
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meaning his name was now on a list of known
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violent offenders. Stefani soon moved on and began a relationship
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with a Syrian girl who he reportedly hoped to marry.
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They were pretty close, dating for four years, and then
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she leaves him for an arranged marriage that she had
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no control over.
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Stefani struggled with the rejection. When he lost yet another job,
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this time at Marmberg Manufacturing, things were spiraling out of
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his control.
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Something is burning at him inside. Something is eating at
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Paul Stefani.
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In the early hours of New Year's Day 1981, things
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took a sudden and sinister turn. As the night's celebrations
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wound down, 36-year-old Stefani encountered a 20-year-old student, Karen Potak.
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She was walking home when she suddenly was attacked right
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off Pierce Butler Road, a main road in St.
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Paul.
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It's an absolutely vicious attack. Callous without warning and for
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no reason. At 3 a.m. on New Year's Day, the
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police in St. Paul receive a phone call, an anonymous
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phone call.
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The phone call was a hysterical person.
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It wasn't clear if it was a man or a woman.
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This is incredibly deliberate on his part.
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He is wanting to appear to be somebody who can't
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help what he's doing.
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He thinks she's dead.
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She's certainly left of her dead.
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And he's consumed. You've got two conflicting emotions inside Stefani. One,
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an absolute desire to hurt women. Two, a fierce guilt
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about having done it.
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What's the address? I don't know. Who are you? There
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was just this urgency, get there, help her. And an
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ambulance was sent there, and that's where they found Karen
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Potak near death in the snow.
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She'd been hit over the head with a tire iron
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multiple times to the extent that some of her brain
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was actually exposed to the elements. So this is a really,
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really significant attack. And it's one that shows us that
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the person who carried it out wanted to kill the victim.
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The location of Stefani's first attack would later form a
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key part of the investigation as police worked to identify him.
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She's found in a very significant place, near some railway tracks,
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near a factory in which Stefani once worked.
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It was the Marmberg Manufacturing Company where Stefani had lost
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his job. He would later claim this upset to be
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the reason he attacked.
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That's something about serial killers, too. When they first begin
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killing people, and of course, Potaki didn't kill her, but
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he left her for dead, really. They go to places
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that are familiar with them at the beginning of their assaults.
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Karen was taken to hospital, but was not expected to survive.
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When I went there the next morning, the blood was
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still in the snow, and we thought, there's no way
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this person who'd been so viciously beaten could have survived.
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In fact, miraculously, Karen is not dead, although perhaps, mercifully,
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she doesn't remember anything about the attack, and she certainly
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doesn't know who's attacked her.
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The police attributed that to the cognitive damage that was
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done to her in the assault. She was never the
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same after that.
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Paul Stefani has got away with what he thought was murder,
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but in fact wasn't.
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I expected two things, that Karen Potak would not survive,
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which she did. I expected this case to be wrapped
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up right away. They would catch this person, man or woman,
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but nothing happened.
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Things were quiet for five months, but on the 3rd
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of June, Stefani's soon-to-be infamous weepy voice was heard again.
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He sounds.
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Quite childlike and pathetic, essentially.
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There's an emphasis on poor me, feel sorry for me,
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I can't help myself. So this is very deliberate on
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his part. This is all about him.
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30 minutes after the 911 call, a grim discovery was
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made in bushes by a freeway in St. Paul.
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Some boys were out playing and a ball went over
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to the edge of where they were playing and they saw,
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they thought it was a dummy laying in the grass.
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kind of hidden, and they realized it was an actual
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person and a body, and they called the police.
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She's dumped in the bushes, and when we think of
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the kind of things that we find in the bushes,
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it's things that we discard. It's things that we don't
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want anymore. It's things that we would consider to be trash,
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and that's very much how Stefani saw this victim.
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The body was that of a woman wearing a red jacket,
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She had no identification, but did have a single key
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on her person.
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The key was to the Greyhound bus locker in St.
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Paul by Mickey's Diner, a pretty iconic location in St.
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Paul.
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Through there, they found some of her identification and were
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able to figure out it was Kimberly Compton.
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Working backwards, the police then found out she had just
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arrived that day from Pepin, Wisconsin. Police had to tell
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her family that She was brutally assaulted and murdered. So
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at this point, we didn't have any idea of who
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or why or what had happened.
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She'd only that day gone to St Paul on the
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Greyhound bus to start a new life after leaving Wisconsin.
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This was going to be a clean slate. This was
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the beginning of a new life. And sadly, it was
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the end.
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Tracking Kimberly's last movements, police discovered that after arriving at
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the bus station, Kimberly had gone to a nearby diner
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where she'd met a friendly local who seemed keen to
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welcome her to the city.
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Stefani was personable, got a conversation going with her and said, hey,
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you're from Wisconsin, let me show you some of the
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sights of St.
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Paul.
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So he came across as sort of an older man
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looking out for this young woman with hopes and dreams.
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15 minutes later, she was dead.
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Kimberly Compton was stabbed 61 times in the upper body, mostly,
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and that in a very violent assault.
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With an ice pick.
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Later on, the medical examiner determined not only was she stabbed,
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but she was also choked to death with some shoelaces.
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This method of killing, this ferocity, it isn't about losing control.
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This is about gaining control.
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This killer is somebody who wants to not just kill,
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but absolutely obliterate his victim.
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Two days after Kimberly was murdered, police received another call
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from the high-pitched caller. It wasn't recorded, but investigators were
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hopeful it would provide more clues that could lead them
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to the killer.
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He stayed on the phone a little bit longer, and
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the police traced his phone call to a phone booth
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at the bus depot, where she had just gotten off.
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And police followed up and went to the bus depot,
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tried to take fingerprints, but there were so many people
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that had used the phone in that area that it
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would not have any positive results.
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On the 11th of June, the killer called again.
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Don't talk, just listen.
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He's quite frustrated.
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He's quite annoyed.
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He wants this murder to be recognized. He wants something
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to happen.
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He's telling the police, you know, hey, I'm in charge.
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I want you to do what I want you to do.
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Don't talk. Listen. Stop me. I can't help myself. Do
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your job, you know. Basically saying, catch me.
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Police were quick to make the connection between the recent
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911 calls and the one they received five months previously
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in the unsolved Karen Potak case.
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One of the people, I believe, in the 911 center said,
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that sounds like an individual about a year ago that
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called that same squeaky high weeping type of voice.
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I'm sorry, I killed a girl.
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Two young women found a few miles apart, brutally attacked,
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and that phone call, police felt they had a serial
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killer on the loose and alerted the media that the
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connection they believe existed.
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In an attempt to put a name to the voice,
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they released the 911 calls.
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We put the phone call on the air, and we
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were sure people would recognize the voice.
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The media soon dubbed him the weepy voice killer.
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We're hoping that somebody will recognize the voice, whether it
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be a friend or a relative or a neighbor or
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someone you work with or drink with.
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You would think that somebody would recognize that. Anybody who'd
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had an argument with him or heard him stress would
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recognize him from the voice. It was so distinct.
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With no immediate leads, detectives tried to find other links
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to the victims in the hopes of identifying the predator.
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They noted that both victims had been wearing red. FBI
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profilers theorized that the color could be a trigger. A
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warning was issued to the public.
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He's got a whole town, a whole city in fear.
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Everybody is going to be watching their backs and making
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sure that they don't wear anything red, especially women. Now,
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Stefani is someone who enjoys controlling women, and when he
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says something like this, he's controlling not just one, but
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potentially thousands of women.
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These victims of his were wearing red, and he had
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dated a girl from Syria for about four years, and
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the only picture I ever saw of her that he
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had She was wearing red.
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This was a big story in the Twin Cities. A
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lot of coverage of the serial killer, we believe, was
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on the loose, even though there'd only been one killing
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at that point. And then things got quiet.
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For months, there was no word from the weepy voice killer.
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Residents hoped they'd seen the last of his horrific acts. Then,
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in late August 1981, police in St. Paul received an
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emergency call. An individual named Alan Lopez was holding his
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family hostage.
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A negotiator is sent, a SWAT team is sent. He
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insists that he's going to kill them.
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The police were trying to get him to come out,
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and Alan Lopez, during that conversation with the police, said
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he is the person that killed Kimberly Compton.
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I covered that standoff, and it was bizarre enough on
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its own, and then we hear that he's confessing to
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being Kimberly Compton's killer.
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Eventually, the standoff is resolved. The SWAT team enter the
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house to discover that Alan Lopez has indeed killed his father, mother,
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and sister.
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26-year-old Lopez was arrested for the murders of his relatives,
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and investigators worked on connecting him to Kimberly Compton's murder. However,
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a voice comparison between Lopez and the weepy-voiced 911 calls
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found no similarities. The questions remained unanswered, and in February 1982,
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Lopez committed suicide in jail. In August, another woman's body
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was found across the river in Minneapolis.
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It was a very brutal scene, and police were called,
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and ambulance called, and She was found deceased by numerous
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stab wounds.
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Investigators trying to piece together what had happened struggled to
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identify the woman. Two days later, a 911 call came
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in with a familiar-sounding voice. Fire emergency.
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Please don't talk to me, listen.
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I'm sorry, I killed that girl.
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I stabbed her 40 times.
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Kimberly Compton was the first one over.
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So now we knew it couldn't have been Alan Lopez
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because now we have another murder with the same weepy
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voice calling the police department.
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It was a challenge to the police department. showing that, here,
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I've done this, now see if you can catch me.
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There's quite a lot that's happening in this call. Firstly,
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he's asserting that status and authority, you've got to listen
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to me. Then he's almost boasting about the number of
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times that he's stabbed, drawing our attention to how violent
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he is. And then he's linking those two killings.
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I'm sorry what I did to Compton.
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I couldn't help it. Don't know why I had.
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To stab her. He'd gone quiet for close to a year,
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and suddenly we have this murder of a young woman
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in Minneapolis.
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The Minneapolis Police Department got a hold of the St.
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Paul Police Department, and they started working together on trying
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to identify who this caller was.
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Investigators were also working hard to identify the victims. A
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vital tip came when a postal worker handed in a
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woman's purse belonging to a local nurse, Barbara Simons.
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Her purse was in a mailbox, and they tracked down
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who Barbara Simons was. They knew she was killed near
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the Mississippi River, and they found out that she had
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been at a bar, the Hexacon Bar, the night before
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her body was found.
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Witnesses from the bar remembered seeing 40-year-old Barbara with a man.
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Stefani came up and asked her for a cigarette, and
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he danced with her, and very open that he was
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with her, had made contact with her.
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This would appear to be quite a bold move on
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his part.
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So he's going out and he's hunting for victims out
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there in public where other people.
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Can see him.
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But by this stage, he's gotten away with murder, and
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I think he's becoming a lot bolder.
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Seems like they hit it off, according to some people
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at the bar, and he offered to give her a
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ride home.
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In fact, if I recall, she said to the waitress
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there at the bar, saying, boy, I hope he's a
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nice guy because he's going to give me a ride home.
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And obviously he wasn't, and she was killed that night.
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He took her down to an area, assaulted her, stabbed
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her numerous times and left her to be found too.
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And I believe this time that they thought that a
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Phillips screwdriver, similar to an ice pick, was used in
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those assaults.
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Bar staff gave detailed descriptions of the man's appearance and
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detectives began trawling through a database of violent offenders in
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the area.
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Based on the description of what the bartender and the
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waitress said, they narrowed it down to about eight or nine,
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and the bartender picked out Paul Stefani as being the
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person that was talking to Barbara Simons that night.
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Police began to focus on him, trying to figure out
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where he lived, try to put the pieces together on
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Paul Stefani. Investigators on both sides of the river at
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this point are working on the case. They knew they
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had a very dangerous person out there.
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Investigators learned all they could about Stefani's background, making a
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crucial link from another of the attacks.
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Among the things they figured out about Paul Stefani is
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that he had worked in Malmberg manufacturing. which is the
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place where Karen Potak, the first victim, had been attacked.
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And I think that was significant to them because not
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only had he given the street where she was found,
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he named a business, and that was unusual.
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Police were now confident that Stefani was the weepy-voiced killer.
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They knew who they believed they were looking for at
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that point, and the clock was ticking. Is he going
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to do it again? Is he going to call in
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with something? And so investigators are working, comparing notes on
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both sides of the river. The media's, we're in a
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kind of a frenzy to keep it out there because
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we didn't want one more victim.
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To everyone's horror, there would be another. Despite now being
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under police surveillance, he slipped through the net and on
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the 21st of August, 1982, went hunting for his next victim.
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That night, Stefani met Denise Williams.
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Denise has been engaged in sex work for quite some years,
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so she's out and about on the streets quite frequently.
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And he offers her money to engage in a sex
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act with him. So she accepts, she gets in his car,
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they drive off, they exchange business.
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And he says that he's going to take her back
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to Minneapolis. He found her in Minneapolis, he's taking her back.
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She got suspicious because he didn't seem to be going
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back to where he was supposed to take her. Suddenly
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he pulls over his car and viciously attacks her. She
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fights back. She's street savvy. She fights back. She saw
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a pop bottle. She takes that bottle, smashes it across
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his face, and causes him to bleed. She manages to escape.
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And he started going after her and stabbing her again.
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A person heard her screaming, came over and helped her out.
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And Stefani turned on him and threatened him, and he
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got Williams away. Stefani took off and left the scene.
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Stefani is a killer who is used to being 100%
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in control when it comes to his crimes. But this time,
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he's really met his match in Denise. He's come up
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against a woman who is not going to put up
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with this. She is not going to just let this
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guy take her life. She is quite tough. She's quite streetwise,
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and I imagine she's been in quite a few altercations
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with clients before. So this really rattles him. This woman
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has won and he is lost in this particular situation.
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So I think it really does knock him off balance.
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He had to think in the back of his mind,
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if he was rational at that time, that police are
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going to be interviewing him. How did this assault happen?
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Where did it happen?
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Who did it?
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And that it was unravelling very fast for him after
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Denise Williams died. started pounding him with that bottle.
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Having failed in his attack, the predator returned home to
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assess his injuries.
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He goes home to St. Paul, and then he made
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another phone call. This time, he wasn't calling to get
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help for a victim. He was calling for help for himself.
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He actually calls 911 and requests an ambulance, and his
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voice wasn't quite as high and quite as weepy or
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anything else. He said he was hurt and he needed
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an ambulance.
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The call raised alarm bells for the person who received it.
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Hey, this sounds like the guy that's been on television
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that I've heard, the weepy voice killer. It sounds like
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his voice is very similar. So they got the police involved.
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The St. Paul Police Department, who had Stefani under surveillance,
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saw the police department show up.
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Next thing he knows is an ambulance shows up at
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Stefani's residence.
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And the murder-killing spree was over. They arrested Paul Stefani,
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and it ended right there.
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Denise Williams had become the second victim to have survived
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the brutal attack of a serial killer.
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She had been the victim of an assault and went
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to the hospital, and she described her and the police
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then showed her some mugshots of different people, and she
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picked out Paul Stefani.
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She became, in many ways, the hero of all this.
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What she did and her response was life-saving for others,
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herself and others.
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Stefani was charged with the assault of 19-year-old Denise Williams
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and with the murder of 40-year-old Barbara Simons. But the
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weepy killer had lost his voice.
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Although he said in his phone calls to police, somebody
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needs to stop me, he certainly didn't give them enough
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information to actually make that happen. He wanted to continue,
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but he wanted people to think that he wasn't in
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control of what he was doing. He wanted people to
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have sympathy for him, to feel sorry for him.
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Paul Stefani went from the guy calling in, confessing, to
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when the police had him, he's not cooperating at all.
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But as they're pressing him, they show him, I believe,
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some crime scene photos. And that seemed to be the
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trigger point.
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When the police would open up their file, there were
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pictures of Karen Potak and Kimberly Compton. His voice elevated
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to a higher pitch.
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He starts getting hysterical in his voice. And they felt
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at that point, this is it. How he sounded in
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that room paralleled the phone calls they'd been getting. So
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at least from their experience in the room, they felt
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no question this was their guy.
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And so when we looked at everything that we had
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between Karen Potok and Kimberly Compton and Denise Williams and
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Barbara Simons, the stronger cases with the actual identification were
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the Minneapolis cases, Barbara Simons and Denise Williams. So we
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went ahead with the prosecution of those two cases first.
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In 1984 and 1985, when he faced trials for the
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attempted murder of Denise Williams and the murder of Barbara Simons,
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Stefani pled not guilty.
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The Denise Williams evidence was her ID describing how the
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assault took place. The Good Samaritan that came up could
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identify Stefani as attacking her and then threatening him with
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a screwdriver.
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The violence displayed in his attack was evident in his
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demeanor in court.
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There seemed to be a lot of rage that was contained,
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and physically the thing that stood out the most was
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just the glare, looking around, the glare that he had
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in that courtroom. There's sort of a disdain for everyone
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in the courtroom.
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When we're looking at his behavior in court, when he's
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having these outbursts, when he's quite antagonistic and he's quite confrontational,
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this is the real him. And I think up until
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this point in time, it's only his victims who've seen this.
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The weepy voice killer had become infamous for the 911
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calls in which he confessed to his crimes. Prosecutors used
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these recordings in the trial.
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During the trial, there were a number of witnesses and
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evidence that was presented, but by far the most compelling
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evidence was stuff he gave to them, his phone calls. He,
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in essence, put on a platter Here I am. I'm
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the guy that called. And their efforts to challenge it
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and whether it was really Paul Stefani or not.
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Yes, please, this is an emergency.
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Please have a call.
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You knew that it was the same person. I've listened
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to those calls so many times over the years. So
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you know that it's the same person making these phone calls.
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Some key people who testified and said they recognized the voice,
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they included his ex-wife, his sister, so people who knew him.
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was able to describe that's the same guy.
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To have two women up there incriminating him really does
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turn on its head all of those values he's got
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about the role of men and the role of women.
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Women are supposed to be passive, they're supposed to be subservient,
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they're supposed to be compliant, and here they are convicting him.
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Despite the seemingly overwhelming evidence connecting Stefani to the 911 calls,
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they were deemed inadmissible for identifying the attacker in the
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earlier Weepy Voice cases in St. Paul.
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During the course of that trial, the judge threw out
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the voice identification of the Weepy Voice killer. He said
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it wasn't sufficient to tie him to Karen Potak or
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Kimberly Compton. The only thing we had connecting Stefani was
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his voice on those calls, and we didn't think we
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had enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
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we could prove it was him.
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Consequently, Paul Stefani was never tried for those crimes. He
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was found guilty of the second-degree murder of Barbara Simons
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and the attempted murder of Denise Williams. In total, he
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was sentenced to 58 years in prison.
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Essentially a life sentence. He wasn't going to be getting out.
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We didn't want to go through another trial if we
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didn't have to, unless we could absolutely prove it.
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In a shocking twist, 12 years into his sentence, the
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weepy-voiced killer himself would give investigators all the confirmation they needed.
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Stefani had one final confession to make.
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Paul Stefani found out that he had terminal cancer and
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he wasn't going to live more than a month to
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12 months. That was what the doctors were giving him
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because of skin cancer. So he asked the guards at
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the prison Oak Park Heights to get a hold of
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the St. Paul police because he wanted to talk to
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them about what he had done.
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And so the investigator went in and met with him.
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He'd already been convicted in Barbara Simon's murder as well
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as Denise Williams' assault.
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Stefani admitted that he had assaulted Karen Potok and he
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admitted killing Kimberly Compton. So all four, he admitted that
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he was responsible for their assaults or their deaths.
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This isn't that he's suddenly become remorseful, that he's suddenly
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grown a conscience overnight, that he knows he's going to
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meet his maker and he needs to offload.
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All of this stuff.
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What he's trying to do is control what he leaves behind.
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He doesn't want to leave this world not having the
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credit for all of the murders that he's committed.
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Stefani had confirmed that he was responsible for all of
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the crimes he had been suspected of, but his next
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admittance would stun investigators.
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And then out of the blue, he mentioned that he
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also had drowned this woman. He couldn't remember her name,
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but drowned a woman in Lauderdale, which is a suburb
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of St. Paul.
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He confessed to a murder that nobody had any indication
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that he'd ever done. In fact, in his confession, it
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took them for a while to identify who that victim was.
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The police went back to say, is there any unsolved
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cases where someone was drowned and you never found a suspect?
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00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:40.090
And sure enough, they found Kathleen Greening in 1982.
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She was a schoolteacher in the St. Paul area, and
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apparently she and Paul Stefani had gone out on a date,
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and she was drowned. And for many years, police suspected
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her husband.
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When the police went back to look at the evidence,
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he gave them evidence about her house that only the
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killer would know the layout of the house, how he
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did it.
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He had strangled her, drowned her in a tub in
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her own home.
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This time, Stefani hadn't phoned 911. And in another stunning revelation,
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he claimed that wasn't the only thing that was different
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in this case. he'd met with Kathleen on several occasions.
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He described the murder. You know, they're going up to
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a bathtub. Are they going to have consensual sex? This
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is completely different. He had feelings for this person.
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He's a master of information control.
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He wants to be very careful about the story that's
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emerging around his murders. The reason that Stefani didn't call
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the police after killing Kathleen was that he didn't want
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them to know about it. There's something he feels ashamed of,
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something he feels embarrassed about, something that doesn't quite fit
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with the persona that he's trying to create.
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Reporter Caroline Lowe was intrigued by this killer who'd suddenly
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confessed all.
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I went to prison to meet with him to see
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what I could learn because most killers, most criminals I've
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covered never admit they've done anything. I thought, is there
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anything we can learn from him? And I remember sitting
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there in prison as he's describing Kathy Greening, he said,
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we had a really good evening. We went out, we
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went home, and then he takes his hands up to
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his throat and he said, I just suddenly felt like
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doing this to her. And he's showing me with his hands.
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It was chilling to see him just calmly describe what
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he did. Talking like, what did you do for your
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vacation last summer? But he's talking about killing people, attacking people.
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Investigators reexamining the evidence in Kathleen's case were able to
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prove that she had known her killer.
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They found his telephone number in her address book that
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the authorities had overlooked in their original investigation.
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We didn't have these smartphones and everything in those days
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that you could put somebody's name and telephone number in.
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She had it in there, Paul S., and they knew
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from the arrest of him that that was his telephone number.
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There was one aspect of the confession that bore a
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striking resemblance to the Barbara Simons case.
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He mentioned that he'd put her purse in a mailbox,
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and that was one of those details that only the
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killer knew. In one of the other cases, a purse
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had been put in a mailbox, but that was so significant.
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So he gave them things that there was no doubt
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by the time they were done that Paul was in
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fact her killer.
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There was a big revelation for the media and county
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attorney's office because two or three different offices had reviewed
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that case. And part of the problem was the medical
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examiner couldn't determine if it was accidental or a homicide.
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So the cause of death was undetermined.
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It had taken 15 years, but finally her loved ones
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knew the truth about who was responsible for Kathleen's death.
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the depraved killer had confessed to murdering three women and
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to the attacks on Karen Potak and Denise Williams.
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The way he abused those women, stabbing a person 61 times,
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beating a woman with a tire iron until she's unconscious,
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leaving her for dead, that's a violent, evil person.
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When you look at that and the brutality and the anger,
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you just wonder why somebody wasn't alerted to the rage
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in this person and the evil of this individual a
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long time ago.
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But Paul Stefani hadn't finished his final chapter. Before he died,
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he contacted Caroline.
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He wrote me a letter, actually, I got the next week,
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and he asked me if I would reach out to
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the victim's families. This is the letter, which I still have.
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He asked me if I'd reach out to the victim's
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families because he's wanted me to tell them that he
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wanted to put flowers on their graves. I would not
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be a go-between between the serial killer and these families
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to help him maybe feel better as his life is
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winding down.
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I think that he wanted to make his slate clear
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in the eyes of law enforcement, in the eyes of God.
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As a devout Catholic, I am admitting to all my sins.
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Please forgive me. I'm telling the police everything I did,
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and that's why I believe that he did not commit
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any more murders than those he confessed to.
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53-year-old Paul Stefani died of cancer in June 1998. After
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all of his confessions, one question remained unanswered.
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Why? Why? A lot of us thought that maybe his
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religious upbringing and his family falling apart, he was taking
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it out on women. He was very hostile in the
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brutality of the attacks. You don't stab someone 61 times
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with an ice pick, you know, without having a lot
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of rage and anger.
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The Twin Cities will never forget the losses suffered by
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their communities at the hands of Paul Stefani.
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You mentioned the weepy voice caller, killer. Anyone in Minnesota
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remembers that. If they were around back then, they remember
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the weepy voice killer.
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Paul Stefani thought he could do whatever he wanted to
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do in his rage. and his being evil and that
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he could call up and tell the police that he's
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sorry and that he would be forgiven or go to
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church and he would be forgiven. But I think he
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was looking for absolution and he never got it.
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He's a small town boy, became one of the most
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notorious serial killers in Minnesota history.
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Paul Michael Stefani has become etched in the minds of
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all who knew him as the notorious weepy voice killer,
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whose rage-fuelled and vicious attacks took the lives of three
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unsuspecting women and forever changed the lives of two more.
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Stefani may have believed he would be forgiven for his sins,
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but his horrific and violent actions mean he will never
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be absolved as one of the world's most evil killers.
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In the early hours of New Year's Day, 1981, police
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in St. Paul, Minnesota, received an hysterical 911 call. The
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anonymous call was made by her attacker, and it was
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to be the first of many.
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She was badly beaten. with a tire iron, left for
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dead in the snow. When I went there the next morning,
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the blood was still in the snow, and we thought,
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there's no way this person who'd been so viciously beaten
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could have survived.
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The assailant soon became known as the weepy voice killer.
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His eerie tones were so distinctive that he was quickly
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linked to many more attacks.
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You knew that it was the same person. I've listened
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to those calls so many times over the years. So
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you know that it's the same person making these phone calls.
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I think he was looking for absolution, and he never
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got it.
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He had confessed his sins, but there was no forgiveness
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for Paul Stefani, the weepy voice killer, who'd become one
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of the world's most evil killers. Between January 1981 and
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August 1982, police in the twin cities of Minneapolis and St.
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Paul received a series of disturbing, anonymous phone calls from
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a serial killer. Each time, they were linked to the
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discovery of a woman's body. I can't stop myself.
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I keep killing somebody. There was a sense of urgency
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of the danger that he was out there and also
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a sense that he wanted to be caught because I
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can't remember a time in 40 years of covering crime
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of somebody calling up and leading police that way to
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the victims and seeming hysterical. There was a lot of
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fear in the community. There was a sense that this
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would be solved quickly, that the voice would be recognized.
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But then nothing happened.
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The now infamous whiny voice in the 911 calls caused
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him to be dubbed the weepy-voiced killer. He brutally attacked
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five women.
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This isn't somebody who wants to be caught. It's somebody
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who wants status, who wants recognition. He is absolutely desperate
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to be seen as a serial killer. He wants a recognition.
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of being a serial killer. That's something that's quite important
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to him.
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This killer's story begins in Minnesota. Paul Michael Stefani was
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born on the 8th of September, 1944.
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Paul Stefani was born in a smaller town down in
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southern Minnesota by Austin. It's my understanding that his parents
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divorced and that he had a very strict stepfather who
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was a devout Catholic.
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It's quite interesting looking at the religious background of serial
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killers because it tends to affect them in one of
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two ways. On the one hand, they might use the
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kind of values that they've grown up with as a
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justification for their behavior. On the other hand, their failure
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to live up to those values might be something that
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they feel fundamentally ashamed of, and it's that shame that
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actually drives their offending.
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He seemed to have a strong bond with his mother.
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There's a strength there, so there was nothing that I
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could find that made any sense that could even explain
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why he did what he did.
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I think there would have been quite clear boundaries around
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what's acceptable, what's not acceptable, ideas about sin.
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Stefani had been diagnosed with epilepsy as a child, and
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when he kept losing his jobs as an adult, he
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blamed the condition. Nevertheless, he did appear to settle down.
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He moved out of Austin to St. Paul, and by
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the age of 26, had met his wife.
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In 1970, he got married. So far, so normal. Didn't
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last all that long. They divorced five years later.
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The 1970s, there's still quite a bit of stigma around divorce,
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especially within Catholic communities. So I think this, on his part,
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perhaps would have been seen as something of a failure.
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Sometime after his divorce, Stefani went off the rails and
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showed his violent side for the first time. The details
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of the incident are unknown, but Stefani was convicted of assault,
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meaning his name was now on a list of known
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violent offenders. Stefani soon moved on and began a relationship
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with a Syrian girl who he reportedly hoped to marry.
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she leaves him for an arranged marriage that she had
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no control over.
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Stefani struggled with the rejection. When he lost yet another job,
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this time at Marmberg Manufacturing, things were spiraling out of
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his control.
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Something is burning at him inside. Something is eating at
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Paul Stefani.
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In the early hours of New Year's Day 1981, things
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took a sudden and sinister turn. As the night's celebrations
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wound down, 36-year-old Stefani encountered a 20-year-old student, Karen Potak.
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She was walking home when she suddenly was attacked right
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off Pierce Butler Road, a main road in St.
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Paul.
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It's an absolutely vicious attack. Callous without warning and for
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no reason. At 3 a.m. on New Year's Day, the
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police in St. Paul receive a phone call, an anonymous
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phone call.
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The phone call was a hysterical person.
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It wasn't clear if it was a man or a woman.
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This is incredibly deliberate on his part.
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He is wanting to appear to be somebody who can't
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help what he's doing.
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He thinks she's dead.
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She's certainly left of her dead.
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And he's consumed. You've got two conflicting emotions inside Stefani. One,
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an absolute desire to hurt women. Two, a fierce guilt
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about having done it.
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What's the address? I don't know. Who are you? There
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was just this urgency, get there, help her. And an
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ambulance was sent there, and that's where they found Karen
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Potak near death in the snow.
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She'd been hit over the head with a tire iron
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multiple times to the extent that some of her brain
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was actually exposed to the elements. So this is a really,
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really significant attack. And it's one that shows us that
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the person who carried it out wanted to kill the victim.
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The location of Stefani's first attack would later form a
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key part of the investigation as police worked to identify him.
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She's found in a very significant place, near some railway tracks,
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near a factory in which Stefani once worked.
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It was the Marmberg Manufacturing Company where Stefani had lost
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his job. He would later claim this upset to be
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the reason he attacked.
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That's something about serial killers, too. When they first begin
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killing people, and of course, Potaki didn't kill her, but
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he left her for dead, really. They go to places
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that are familiar with them at the beginning of their assaults.
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Karen was taken to hospital, but was not expected to survive.
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When I went there the next morning, the blood was
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still in the snow, and we thought, there's no way
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this person who'd been so viciously beaten could have survived.
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In fact, miraculously, Karen is not dead, although perhaps, mercifully,
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she doesn't remember anything about the attack, and she certainly
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doesn't know who's attacked her.
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The police attributed that to the cognitive damage that was
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done to her in the assault. She was never the
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same after that.
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Paul Stefani has got away with what he thought was murder,
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but in fact wasn't.
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I expected two things, that Karen Potak would not survive,
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which she did. I expected this case to be wrapped
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up right away. They would catch this person, man or woman,
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but nothing happened.
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Things were quiet for five months, but on the 3rd
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of June, Stefani's soon-to-be infamous weepy voice was heard again.
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He sounds.
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Quite childlike and pathetic, essentially.
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There's an emphasis on poor me, feel sorry for me,
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I can't help myself. So this is very deliberate on
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his part. This is all about him.
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30 minutes after the 911 call, a grim discovery was
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made in bushes by a freeway in St. Paul.
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Some boys were out playing and a ball went over
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to the edge of where they were playing and they saw,
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they thought it was a dummy laying in the grass.
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kind of hidden, and they realized it was an actual
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person and a body, and they called the police.
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She's dumped in the bushes, and when we think of
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the kind of things that we find in the bushes,
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it's things that we discard. It's things that we don't
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want anymore. It's things that we would consider to be trash,
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and that's very much how Stefani saw this victim.
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The body was that of a woman wearing a red jacket,
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She had no identification, but did have a single key
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on her person.
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The key was to the Greyhound bus locker in St.
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Paul by Mickey's Diner, a pretty iconic location in St.
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Paul.
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Through there, they found some of her identification and were
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able to figure out it was Kimberly Compton.
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Working backwards, the police then found out she had just
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arrived that day from Pepin, Wisconsin. Police had to tell
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her family that She was brutally assaulted and murdered. So
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at this point, we didn't have any idea of who
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or why or what had happened.
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She'd only that day gone to St Paul on the
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Greyhound bus to start a new life after leaving Wisconsin.
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This was going to be a clean slate. This was
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the beginning of a new life. And sadly, it was
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the end.
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Tracking Kimberly's last movements, police discovered that after arriving at
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the bus station, Kimberly had gone to a nearby diner
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where she'd met a friendly local who seemed keen to
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welcome her to the city.
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Stefani was personable, got a conversation going with her and said, hey,
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you're from Wisconsin, let me show you some of the
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sights of St.
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So he came across as sort of an older man
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looking out for this young woman with hopes and dreams.
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15 minutes later, she was dead.
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Kimberly Compton was stabbed 61 times in the upper body, mostly,
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and that in a very violent assault.
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With an ice pick.
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Later on, the medical examiner determined not only was she stabbed,
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but she was also choked to death with some shoelaces.
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This method of killing, this ferocity, it isn't about losing control.
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This is about gaining control.
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This killer is somebody who wants to not just kill,
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but absolutely obliterate his victim.
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Two days after Kimberly was murdered, police received another call
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from the high-pitched caller. It wasn't recorded, but investigators were
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hopeful it would provide more clues that could lead them
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to the killer.
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He stayed on the phone a little bit longer, and
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the police traced his phone call to a phone booth
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at the bus depot, where she had just gotten off.
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And police followed up and went to the bus depot,
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tried to take fingerprints, but there were so many people
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that had used the phone in that area that it
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would not have any positive results.
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On the 11th of June, the killer called again.
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Don't talk, just listen.
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He's quite frustrated.
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He's quite annoyed.
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He wants this murder to be recognized. He wants something
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to happen.
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He's telling the police, you know, hey, I'm in charge.
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I want you to do what I want you to do.
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Don't talk. Listen. Stop me. I can't help myself. Do
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your job, you know. Basically saying, catch me.
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Police were quick to make the connection between the recent
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911 calls and the one they received five months previously
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in the unsolved Karen Potak case.
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One of the people, I believe, in the 911 center said,
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that sounds like an individual about a year ago that
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called that same squeaky high weeping type of voice.
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I'm sorry, I killed a girl.
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Two young women found a few miles apart, brutally attacked,
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and that phone call, police felt they had a serial
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killer on the loose and alerted the media that the
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connection they believe existed.
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In an attempt to put a name to the voice,
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they released the 911 calls.
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We put the phone call on the air, and we
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were sure people would recognize the voice.
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The media soon dubbed him the weepy voice killer.
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We're hoping that somebody will recognize the voice, whether it
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be a friend or a relative or a neighbor or
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someone you work with or drink with.
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You would think that somebody would recognize that. Anybody who'd
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had an argument with him or heard him stress would
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recognize him from the voice. It was so distinct.
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With no immediate leads, detectives tried to find other links
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to the victims in the hopes of identifying the predator.
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They noted that both victims had been wearing red. FBI
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profilers theorized that the color could be a trigger. A
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warning was issued to the public.
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He's got a whole town, a whole city in fear.
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Everybody is going to be watching their backs and making
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sure that they don't wear anything red, especially women. Now,
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Stefani is someone who enjoys controlling women, and when he
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says something like this, he's controlling not just one, but
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potentially thousands of women.
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These victims of his were wearing red, and he had
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dated a girl from Syria for about four years, and
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the only picture I ever saw of her that he
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had She was wearing red.
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This was a big story in the Twin Cities. A
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lot of coverage of the serial killer, we believe, was
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on the loose, even though there'd only been one killing
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at that point. And then things got quiet.
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For months, there was no word from the weepy voice killer.
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Residents hoped they'd seen the last of his horrific acts. Then,
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in late August 1981, police in St. Paul received an
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emergency call. An individual named Alan Lopez was holding his
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family hostage.
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A negotiator is sent, a SWAT team is sent. He
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insists that he's going to kill them.
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The police were trying to get him to come out,
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and Alan Lopez, during that conversation with the police, said
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he is the person that killed Kimberly Compton.
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I covered that standoff, and it was bizarre enough on
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its own, and then we hear that he's confessing to
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being Kimberly Compton's killer.
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Eventually, the standoff is resolved. The SWAT team enter the
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house to discover that Alan Lopez has indeed killed his father, mother,
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and sister.
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26-year-old Lopez was arrested for the murders of his relatives,
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and investigators worked on connecting him to Kimberly Compton's murder. However,
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a voice comparison between Lopez and the weepy-voiced 911 calls
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found no similarities. The questions remained unanswered, and in February 1982,
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Lopez committed suicide in jail. In August, another woman's body
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was found across the river in Minneapolis.
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It was a very brutal scene, and police were called,
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and ambulance called, and She was found deceased by numerous
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stab wounds.
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Investigators trying to piece together what had happened struggled to
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identify the woman. Two days later, a 911 call came
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in with a familiar-sounding voice. Fire emergency.
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Please don't talk to me, listen.
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I'm sorry, I killed that girl.
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I stabbed her 40 times.
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Kimberly Compton was the first one over.
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So now we knew it couldn't have been Alan Lopez
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because now we have another murder with the same weepy
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voice calling the police department.
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It was a challenge to the police department. showing that, here,
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I've done this, now see if you can catch me.
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There's quite a lot that's happening in this call. Firstly,
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he's asserting that status and authority, you've got to listen
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to me. Then he's almost boasting about the number of
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times that he's stabbed, drawing our attention to how violent
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he is. And then he's linking those two killings.
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I'm sorry what I did to Compton.
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I couldn't help it. Don't know why I had.
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To stab her. He'd gone quiet for close to a year,
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and suddenly we have this murder of a young woman
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in Minneapolis.
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The Minneapolis Police Department got a hold of the St.
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Paul Police Department, and they started working together on trying
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to identify who this caller was.
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Investigators were also working hard to identify the victims. A
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vital tip came when a postal worker handed in a
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woman's purse belonging to a local nurse, Barbara Simons.
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Her purse was in a mailbox, and they tracked down
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who Barbara Simons was. They knew she was killed near
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the Mississippi River, and they found out that she had
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been at a bar, the Hexacon Bar, the night before
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her body was found.
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Witnesses from the bar remembered seeing 40-year-old Barbara with a man.
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Stefani came up and asked her for a cigarette, and
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he danced with her, and very open that he was
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with her, had made contact with her.
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This would appear to be quite a bold move on
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his part.
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So he's going out and he's hunting for victims out
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there in public where other people.
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Can see him.
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But by this stage, he's gotten away with murder, and
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I think he's becoming a lot bolder.
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Seems like they hit it off, according to some people
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at the bar, and he offered to give her a
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ride home.
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In fact, if I recall, she said to the waitress
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there at the bar, saying, boy, I hope he's a
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nice guy because he's going to give me a ride home.
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And obviously he wasn't, and she was killed that night.
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He took her down to an area, assaulted her, stabbed
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her numerous times and left her to be found too.
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And I believe this time that they thought that a
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Phillips screwdriver, similar to an ice pick, was used in
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those assaults.
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Bar staff gave detailed descriptions of the man's appearance and
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detectives began trawling through a database of violent offenders in
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the area.
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Based on the description of what the bartender and the
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waitress said, they narrowed it down to about eight or nine,
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and the bartender picked out Paul Stefani as being the
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person that was talking to Barbara Simons that night.
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Police began to focus on him, trying to figure out
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where he lived, try to put the pieces together on
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Paul Stefani. Investigators on both sides of the river at
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this point are working on the case. They knew they
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had a very dangerous person out there.
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Investigators learned all they could about Stefani's background, making a
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crucial link from another of the attacks.
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Among the things they figured out about Paul Stefani is
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that he had worked in Malmberg manufacturing. which is the
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place where Karen Potak, the first victim, had been attacked.
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And I think that was significant to them because not
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only had he given the street where she was found,
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he named a business, and that was unusual.
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Police were now confident that Stefani was the weepy-voiced killer.
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They knew who they believed they were looking for at
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that point, and the clock was ticking. Is he going
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to do it again? Is he going to call in
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with something? And so investigators are working, comparing notes on
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both sides of the river. The media's, we're in a
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kind of a frenzy to keep it out there because
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we didn't want one more victim.
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To everyone's horror, there would be another. Despite now being
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under police surveillance, he slipped through the net and on
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the 21st of August, 1982, went hunting for his next victim.
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That night, Stefani met Denise Williams.
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Denise has been engaged in sex work for quite some years,
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so she's out and about on the streets quite frequently.
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And he offers her money to engage in a sex
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act with him. So she accepts, she gets in his car,
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they drive off, they exchange business.
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And he says that he's going to take her back
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to Minneapolis. He found her in Minneapolis, he's taking her back.
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She got suspicious because he didn't seem to be going
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back to where he was supposed to take her. Suddenly
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he pulls over his car and viciously attacks her. She
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fights back. She's street savvy. She fights back. She saw
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a pop bottle. She takes that bottle, smashes it across
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his face, and causes him to bleed. She manages to escape.
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And he started going after her and stabbing her again.
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A person heard her screaming, came over and helped her out.
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And Stefani turned on him and threatened him, and he
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got Williams away. Stefani took off and left the scene.
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Stefani is a killer who is used to being 100%
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in control when it comes to his crimes. But this time,
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he's really met his match in Denise. He's come up
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against a woman who is not going to put up
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with this. She is not going to just let this
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guy take her life. She is quite tough. She's quite streetwise,
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and I imagine she's been in quite a few altercations
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with clients before. So this really rattles him. This woman
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has won and he is lost in this particular situation.
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So I think it really does knock him off balance.
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He had to think in the back of his mind,
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if he was rational at that time, that police are
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going to be interviewing him. How did this assault happen?
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Where did it happen?
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Who did it?
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And that it was unravelling very fast for him after
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Denise Williams died. started pounding him with that bottle.
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Having failed in his attack, the predator returned home to
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assess his injuries.
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He goes home to St. Paul, and then he made
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another phone call. This time, he wasn't calling to get
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help for a victim. He was calling for help for himself.
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He actually calls 911 and requests an ambulance, and his
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voice wasn't quite as high and quite as weepy or
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anything else. He said he was hurt and he needed
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an ambulance.
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The call raised alarm bells for the person who received it.
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Hey, this sounds like the guy that's been on television
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that I've heard, the weepy voice killer. It sounds like
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his voice is very similar. So they got the police involved.
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The St. Paul Police Department, who had Stefani under surveillance,
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saw the police department show up.
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Next thing he knows is an ambulance shows up at
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Stefani's residence.
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And the murder-killing spree was over. They arrested Paul Stefani,
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and it ended right there.
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Denise Williams had become the second victim to have survived
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the brutal attack of a serial killer.
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She had been the victim of an assault and went
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to the hospital, and she described her and the police
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then showed her some mugshots of different people, and she
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picked out Paul Stefani.
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She became, in many ways, the hero of all this.
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What she did and her response was life-saving for others,
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herself and others.
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Stefani was charged with the assault of 19-year-old Denise Williams
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and with the murder of 40-year-old Barbara Simons. But the
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weepy killer had lost his voice.
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Although he said in his phone calls to police, somebody
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needs to stop me, he certainly didn't give them enough
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information to actually make that happen. He wanted to continue,
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but he wanted people to think that he wasn't in
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control of what he was doing. He wanted people to
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have sympathy for him, to feel sorry for him.
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Paul Stefani went from the guy calling in, confessing, to
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when the police had him, he's not cooperating at all.
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But as they're pressing him, they show him, I believe,
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some crime scene photos. And that seemed to be the
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trigger point.
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When the police would open up their file, there were
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pictures of Karen Potak and Kimberly Compton. His voice elevated
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to a higher pitch.
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He starts getting hysterical in his voice. And they felt
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at that point, this is it. How he sounded in
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that room paralleled the phone calls they'd been getting. So
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at least from their experience in the room, they felt
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no question this was their guy.
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And so when we looked at everything that we had
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between Karen Potok and Kimberly Compton and Denise Williams and
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Barbara Simons, the stronger cases with the actual identification were
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the Minneapolis cases, Barbara Simons and Denise Williams. So we
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went ahead with the prosecution of those two cases first.
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In 1984 and 1985, when he faced trials for the
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attempted murder of Denise Williams and the murder of Barbara Simons,
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Stefani pled not guilty.
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The Denise Williams evidence was her ID describing how the
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assault took place. The Good Samaritan that came up could
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identify Stefani as attacking her and then threatening him with
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a screwdriver.
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The violence displayed in his attack was evident in his
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demeanor in court.
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There seemed to be a lot of rage that was contained,
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and physically the thing that stood out the most was
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just the glare, looking around, the glare that he had
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in that courtroom. There's sort of a disdain for everyone
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in the courtroom.
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When we're looking at his behavior in court, when he's
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having these outbursts, when he's quite antagonistic and he's quite confrontational,
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this is the real him. And I think up until
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this point in time, it's only his victims who've seen this.
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The weepy voice killer had become infamous for the 911
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calls in which he confessed to his crimes. Prosecutors used
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these recordings in the trial.
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During the trial, there were a number of witnesses and
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evidence that was presented, but by far the most compelling
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evidence was stuff he gave to them, his phone calls. He,
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in essence, put on a platter Here I am. I'm
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the guy that called. And their efforts to challenge it
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and whether it was really Paul Stefani or not.
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Yes, please, this is an emergency.
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Please have a call.
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You knew that it was the same person. I've listened
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to those calls so many times over the years. So
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you know that it's the same person making these phone calls.
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Some key people who testified and said they recognized the voice,
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they included his ex-wife, his sister, so people who knew him.
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was able to describe that's the same guy.
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To have two women up there incriminating him really does
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turn on its head all of those values he's got
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about the role of men and the role of women.
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Women are supposed to be passive, they're supposed to be subservient,
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they're supposed to be compliant, and here they are convicting him.
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Despite the seemingly overwhelming evidence connecting Stefani to the 911 calls,
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they were deemed inadmissible for identifying the attacker in the
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earlier Weepy Voice cases in St. Paul.
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During the course of that trial, the judge threw out
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the voice identification of the Weepy Voice killer. He said
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it wasn't sufficient to tie him to Karen Potak or
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Kimberly Compton. The only thing we had connecting Stefani was
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his voice on those calls, and we didn't think we
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had enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
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we could prove it was him.
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Consequently, Paul Stefani was never tried for those crimes. He
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was found guilty of the second-degree murder of Barbara Simons
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and the attempted murder of Denise Williams. In total, he
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was sentenced to 58 years in prison.
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Essentially a life sentence. He wasn't going to be getting out.
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We didn't want to go through another trial if we
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didn't have to, unless we could absolutely prove it.
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In a shocking twist, 12 years into his sentence, the
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weepy-voiced killer himself would give investigators all the confirmation they needed.
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Stefani had one final confession to make.
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Paul Stefani found out that he had terminal cancer and
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he wasn't going to live more than a month to
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12 months. That was what the doctors were giving him
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because of skin cancer. So he asked the guards at
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the prison Oak Park Heights to get a hold of
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the St. Paul police because he wanted to talk to
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them about what he had done.
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And so the investigator went in and met with him.
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He'd already been convicted in Barbara Simon's murder as well
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as Denise Williams' assault.
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Stefani admitted that he had assaulted Karen Potok and he
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admitted killing Kimberly Compton. So all four, he admitted that
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he was responsible for their assaults or their deaths.
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This isn't that he's suddenly become remorseful, that he's suddenly
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grown a conscience overnight, that he knows he's going to
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meet his maker and he needs to offload.
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All of this stuff.
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What he's trying to do is control what he leaves behind.
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He doesn't want to leave this world not having the
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credit for all of the murders that he's committed.
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Stefani had confirmed that he was responsible for all of
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the crimes he had been suspected of, but his next
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admittance would stun investigators.
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And then out of the blue, he mentioned that he
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also had drowned this woman. He couldn't remember her name,
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but drowned a woman in Lauderdale, which is a suburb
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of St. Paul.
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He confessed to a murder that nobody had any indication
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that he'd ever done. In fact, in his confession, it
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took them for a while to identify who that victim was.
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The police went back to say, is there any unsolved
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cases where someone was drowned and you never found a suspect?
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And sure enough, they found Kathleen Greening in 1982.
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She was a schoolteacher in the St. Paul area, and
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apparently she and Paul Stefani had gone out on a date,
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and she was drowned. And for many years, police suspected
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her husband.
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When the police went back to look at the evidence,
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he gave them evidence about her house that only the
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killer would know the layout of the house, how he
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did it.
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He had strangled her, drowned her in a tub in
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her own home.
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This time, Stefani hadn't phoned 911. And in another stunning revelation,
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he claimed that wasn't the only thing that was different
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in this case. he'd met with Kathleen on several occasions.
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He described the murder. You know, they're going up to
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a bathtub. Are they going to have consensual sex? This
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is completely different. He had feelings for this person.
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He's a master of information control.
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He wants to be very careful about the story that's
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emerging around his murders. The reason that Stefani didn't call
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the police after killing Kathleen was that he didn't want
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them to know about it. There's something he feels ashamed of,
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something he feels embarrassed about, something that doesn't quite fit
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with the persona that he's trying to create.
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Reporter Caroline Lowe was intrigued by this killer who'd suddenly
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confessed all.
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I went to prison to meet with him to see
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what I could learn because most killers, most criminals I've
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covered never admit they've done anything. I thought, is there
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anything we can learn from him? And I remember sitting
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there in prison as he's describing Kathy Greening, he said,
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we had a really good evening. We went out, we
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went home, and then he takes his hands up to
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his throat and he said, I just suddenly felt like
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doing this to her. And he's showing me with his hands.
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It was chilling to see him just calmly describe what
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he did. Talking like, what did you do for your
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vacation last summer? But he's talking about killing people, attacking people.
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Investigators reexamining the evidence in Kathleen's case were able to
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prove that she had known her killer.
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They found his telephone number in her address book that
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the authorities had overlooked in their original investigation.
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We didn't have these smartphones and everything in those days
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that you could put somebody's name and telephone number in.
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She had it in there, Paul S., and they knew
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from the arrest of him that that was his telephone number.
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There was one aspect of the confession that bore a
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striking resemblance to the Barbara Simons case.
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He mentioned that he'd put her purse in a mailbox,
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and that was one of those details that only the
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killer knew. In one of the other cases, a purse
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had been put in a mailbox, but that was so significant.
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So he gave them things that there was no doubt
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by the time they were done that Paul was in
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fact her killer.
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There was a big revelation for the media and county
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attorney's office because two or three different offices had reviewed
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that case. And part of the problem was the medical
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examiner couldn't determine if it was accidental or a homicide.
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So the cause of death was undetermined.
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It had taken 15 years, but finally her loved ones
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knew the truth about who was responsible for Kathleen's death.
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the depraved killer had confessed to murdering three women and
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to the attacks on Karen Potak and Denise Williams.
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The way he abused those women, stabbing a person 61 times,
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beating a woman with a tire iron until she's unconscious,
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leaving her for dead, that's a violent, evil person.
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When you look at that and the brutality and the anger,
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you just wonder why somebody wasn't alerted to the rage
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in this person and the evil of this individual a
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long time ago.
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But Paul Stefani hadn't finished his final chapter. Before he died,
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he contacted Caroline.
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He wrote me a letter, actually, I got the next week,
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and he asked me if I would reach out to
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the victim's families. This is the letter, which I still have.
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He asked me if I'd reach out to the victim's
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families because he's wanted me to tell them that he
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wanted to put flowers on their graves. I would not
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be a go-between between the serial killer and these families
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to help him maybe feel better as his life is
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winding down.
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I think that he wanted to make his slate clear
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in the eyes of law enforcement, in the eyes of God.
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As a devout Catholic, I am admitting to all my sins.
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Please forgive me. I'm telling the police everything I did,
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and that's why I believe that he did not commit
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any more murders than those he confessed to.
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53-year-old Paul Stefani died of cancer in June 1998. After
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all of his confessions, one question remained unanswered.
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Why? Why? A lot of us thought that maybe his
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religious upbringing and his family falling apart, he was taking
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it out on women. He was very hostile in the
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brutality of the attacks. You don't stab someone 61 times
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with an ice pick, you know, without having a lot
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of rage and anger.
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The Twin Cities will never forget the losses suffered by
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their communities at the hands of Paul Stefani.
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You mentioned the weepy voice caller, killer. Anyone in Minnesota
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remembers that. If they were around back then, they remember
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the weepy voice killer.
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Paul Stefani thought he could do whatever he wanted to
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do in his rage. and his being evil and that
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he could call up and tell the police that he's
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sorry and that he would be forgiven or go to
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church and he would be forgiven. But I think he
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was looking for absolution and he never got it.
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He's a small town boy, became one of the most
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notorious serial killers in Minnesota history.
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Paul Michael Stefani has become etched in the minds of
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all who knew him as the notorious weepy voice killer,
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whose rage-fuelled and vicious attacks took the lives of three
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unsuspecting women and forever changed the lives of two more.
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Stefani may have believed he would be forgiven for his sins,
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but his horrific and violent actions mean he will never
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be absolved as one of the world's most evil killers.