Selective Ignorance: Ep. 84 | Consent is Not in Perpetuity

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, No Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned, or woman owned to support them. But also just click the button on Amazon. Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly, and my co-host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. Before we get started, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month and it is a good reminder to learn your risk and talk with a healthcare provider about when breast cancer screening, including mammograms, is right for you. Early detection can make breast cancer easier to treat and to beat, okay? So for trusted screening information and resources, visit the American Cancer Society at cancer.org. Now y'all, Y'all already know. We're getting into all the things. All the things current, all the things ignorant. Just all the things. We're starting up top with our ignorant shit. I'm going to give y'all my Culture Con recap, and then we are talking about... The meats, the fish, the eggs, everything being printed as 3D or made with byproducts that aren't at all what the products say it is. Then up first in This Is America, you already know, we have a lot to say regarding the Cornell 7 rape case that is happening and all the conversations surrounding it, including Trump and his take on the government-appointed prosecutor for this case. Then we take it still to sex. Georgia woman pleads for help after being homeless and says that she has been mislabeled a sex offender after being fired for sleeping with an inmate while she was working there. Now, we're going to talk a little bit cause and effect, holding grace, kind of forgiving someone when they know what the consequences are, as well as what that sex offender label really means. Then, this is not a sports podcast, but Texas linebacker Aziz Alshair was told by an NFL official to remove the name of Wafa Akilah, an eight-year-old Palestinian girl killed in Gaza from his black eye patch during the Texans' Week 2 game. Or he would not be allowed to continue playing.
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Speaker 2: All right, y'all.
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Speaker 1: It's another episode of Selective Ignorance. And y'all already know I'm joined by my super producer, OG pod legend, A-King. What it do?
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Speaker 3: Man, we are in New York City. We back home. We back home. We brought this ATL-ian back.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? We brought this Floridian back to the city.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Listen, I've been here for a minute.
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Speaker 3: Yo, how does it feel to be back, y'all? Mm-hmm. I know it sounds crazy. Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess for us, we came last year and recorded with Jason. Jason, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe that was at the top of the year?
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Speaker 3: That was November.
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Speaker 1: Okay, of last year. Oh, yeah, because we did our Thanksgiving episode.
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Speaker 3: Actually, it probably was earlier.
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Speaker 1: Because we did it around this time.
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Speaker 6: Um, I'm excited.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to be doing it with Ja, who's also here. Y'all know the king of headlines.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Pop blessing all the yap niggas. What up, what up, what up, what up, what up? We out here mobbing through Mamdani-stan. And is. Yeah, Mamdani's NYC. And is. It feels different. As soon as I came in this bitch, I was like, damn. Not too many potholes.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Like, New York is one of the places that's normally, like, I like New York, but New York is, like, the type of dirty where it's, like, you might want to wash your hands before you piss. Like, I don't want to touch my dick with regular outside New York hands. I don't think you should do that anyway. You know what I mean? Just wash your hands. Yeah, but I'm saying, I want to wash my hands before I piss.
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Speaker 6: Like, I don't want to touch my.
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Speaker 3: Dick with, like, New York... And I got to like, you got to check. I do that every week.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The airport.
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Speaker 4: Remember when we was in the airport? Damn, I was about to say, remember when we was in the bathroom?
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. Remember when we went to the bathroom? Remember when we went to the bathroom?
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Speaker 6: But nah, yeah, you just want to wash your hands.
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Speaker 3: We got good water, though.
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Speaker 6: Y'all do have good water.
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Speaker 3: I've heard that New York is some of the highest rated tap water in America.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is probably the only thing that still has regulations in.
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Speaker 3: This goddamn country.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how New York, of all places, is dirty and filthy as it is with the goddamn Hudson River, with every type of body plane and everything.
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Speaker 6: Else in it.
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Speaker 1: We have good water here in New York. But yes, the only thing, it's highly, highly, highly regulated here. Unlike the rest of the food in our goddamn country.
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Speaker 6: New York still gives a fuck.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, it does.
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Speaker 3: New York still cares.
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Speaker 1: It does. Speaking of Mondami, though, in New York, I attended Culture Con this weekend with the Spill app.
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Speaker 3: So I was doing Spill on the Street.
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Speaker 1: Having more conversations, again, around the importance of knowing your status, getting tested, and kind of normalizing the conversations around sexual health, specifically sex. amongst our community and black women. So, it was really dope to see. Ran into some really dope friends. Shout out to Zeri Hall, Selena Hill, who's been on this podcast, Crystal Renee.
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Speaker 6: That's what's up.
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Speaker 1: Really dope seeing them. I got to see Mufasa.
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Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Pierre is Mufasa.
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Speaker 3: Speak up!
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Speaker 6: Did you speak up when you seen Aaron Pierre?
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
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Speaker 1: How much the girlies ain't hip. So they're still calling him Mufasa, and I'm like, Jon Stewart Jr. And when I tell you they're like, who?
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Speaker 3: The girlies are not hip to the lanterns. Come on, ladies.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all better go see that man play motherfucking Green Lantern. He's killing it. Yeah, he hasn't taken off his shirt yet, really. He does have sex scenes with, you know, the lady? Mm-hmm. What is it, the mind?
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Speaker 3: The Manhunter.
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Speaker 6: The Manhunter.
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Speaker 3: The Manhunter.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I was very disappointed in the lack of knowledge that the people knew about motherfucking child support.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy because Lancer's just got renewed for season two.
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Speaker 1: For season two and in. And so did A Different World.
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Speaker 3: And so did A Different World.
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Speaker 6: So I had to finish it.
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Speaker 3: I watched three episodes on the plane here and I was like, okay.
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Speaker 1: Wait a second, they done put it on planes already?
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Speaker 3: No, no, I just downloaded it on my Netflix so I could watch a little bit.
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Speaker 6: And I was like, okay.
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Speaker 3: Now, the second episode was a little heavy-handed. Okay.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: They went like, I'm not mad at them talking about bell hooks, but they said bell hooks like every other word. Like, it should be a drinking game for episode two, how many times they said bell. I appreciate it. But also, I love bell hooks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I love bell hooks.
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Speaker 4: Because Negroes don't read, so we got to keep re-emphasizing authors and book titles and shit.
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Speaker 3: I'm not mad at.
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Speaker 6: Them at all.
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Speaker 3: Let me take this on as well.
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Speaker 9: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I got tested today. Know your status.
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Speaker 3: Practicing what you preach.
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Speaker 1: Listen, know your status.
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Speaker 3: I went and got tested today.
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Speaker 1: I had a real act of September. I said, you know what? Let me go and make sure everything how.
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Speaker 6: It needs to be.
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Speaker 3: She put the H-E-D in.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, overall, I did want to say, you know, it was dope to be doing this again with the Spill app. If you haven't yet, it's a black social media app. that you should all get on. Y'all know there's waves of us getting off of these other platforms, but this is a platform that's not limiting our voices or conversations. So it was really dope. And then, listen, I'm not going to be one to jump on the bandwagon of bashing yet another Black event. At the end of the day, you know, people spend their hard-earned money. I think that A lot of us go in with high expectations to a lot of places that maybe we shouldn't. It did seem to fall short for quite a bit of attendees. The second day, it was raining. So I don't know if the second day had such a drop in attendance due to the rain. It was raining. Or if it was because of the lines from the day before. But what I will say is it is a con. And it is a con for culture. And I was having a conversation last night with some people. And as we sat here and dissected CultureCon, we landed on the same way you go to Comic-Con, DreamCon, and all of these cons, you go to dress up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You go to experience and be a part of a culture.
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Speaker 6: Correct.
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Speaker 1: And essentially, when you go to CultureCon, you are going to be a part of Black fashion in Brooklyn.
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Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: And it literally was that. I did feel like, and again, I don't know why people go. I assume networking, all those things. But it definitely gave, if you want to be amongst friends that maybe you haven't seen in a long time.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: If you want to go be amongst people who just, you know, want to enjoy being outside for a day, they get to see some of their favorite celebrities chat. There's activations. There's drinks. There's food trucks. There's a marketplace where you can support Black art, Black brands. It literally is just that. And I want people to just know that you get to be amongst some fashionable Negroes for a day or a weekend.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: But if you go there just wanting that, wanting to be a part of blackness, wanting to be a part of, you know, just a crowd of people that may have the same aspirations as you, there you go.
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Speaker 6: That's your place.
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Speaker 1: But if you finna go there and think that you about to get a job or that, Aaron Pierre about to get your, you know, slay some dick in your coochie because he on a flyover, that you going to get to have a one-on-one conversation with Michael B.
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Speaker 6: Jordan?
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Speaker 1: Maybe not. But to me, I was like, when I went there after the conversation, I said, oh, it's a con. Look at it like Comic-Con. Now, in terms of the logistics... Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Brooklyn Navy Yard, right?
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Speaker 1: It was Brooklyn Navy Yard, I will say. And you went, so I'm curious. All I kept thinking was.
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Speaker 3: I've never went.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 9: Oh.
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Speaker 1: You went to Fanatics.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Fanatics.
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Speaker 1: I didn't finish where I was going with it. But to me, when we were thinking of what this was in terms of the activations, the panels, the conversations, the photo moments, so many people said Fanatics got it right for the amount of people that came from the star power that was there. For what people went to, there was constant things to do.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: And I think that No one wants to spend money to stand in line. And unfortunately, that's kind of the experience they got at Culture Con without also a lot of people being able to know where to go, what to do and all those things. But yeah, I think for the growth that they've experienced, which also is, you know, it's just a dope thing for any black business to do is to grow to that capacity. But it's you got to get the logistics right.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think people get frustrated with.
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Speaker 3: Like you said, the waiting in line is one of the biggest complaints I see, not even just across cons, even across concert events, festivals.
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Speaker 6: Stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: It's like, how long did I have to wait to get food? How long did I have to wait to get to the bathroom? And things like that. And so, yeah, stuff like that has to be figured out. But if you're going to a con, for you personally... What makes.
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Speaker 6: A good con? Like what makes a good experience for you?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's my other problem. I enjoy entertainment. I enjoy live music. I enjoy bands. That's what I enjoy. Here's a motherfucking podcast. You know what I do? Listen to podcasts. But what I don't want to do is pay hundreds of dollars to go and hear someone talk about shit I can see on YouTube. That's another thing. Like Aaron Pierre, Michael B. Jordan. They were literally talking about their projects, not how they negotiate their contracts. They didn't give us anything. And so to me, it's talking points of projects that we could see while you're on your press run because you're sitting in front of everyone doing it. Like I got a personal invite to go see Colin Kaepernick speak and he was being interviewed by Bomani Jones. And I was like, I have zero desire to see him talk about what I just heard him say on Higher Learning, what he just said on All the Smoke. Like the talking points of, you know, Let me tell you why I wanted to stay in the NFL. It's the same way I choose to stay in America. Because, yes, people want to kick me out. They don't align with me. But this is what I want to do. This is where I want to be. I like football. I want to play in the NFL. I'm an American. Even though I don't agree with everything, you can't kick me out of this country or I won't allow you to tell me to just go somewhere else. And, of course, with this book out, the conversations around Roc Nation, around all of the things, the kneeling, I've heard it already.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I've heard it already. And so to me, there's nothing that makes me want to go to hear people talk.
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Speaker 3: This probably sounds crazy as a podcaster.
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Speaker 1: I know. I know. That's why I feel like I'm a hypocrite saying I don't want to hear niggas talk while they listening to me talk. But also, I do feel like when I'm on a panel, I'm going to drop you some bars. I'm going to make it entertaining. I'm going to sit here and try to relate to you. I'm going to give you some goddamn shit to take with you. So many people just go up there and say some bullshit.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Like, the question I have now is, like, have fresh runs run its course? Like, should we get back to a point where if you have a project or a book or a movie you're promoting, not say you only do one interview, but do you only do, like, maybe two or three select things? And you don't because... And.
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Speaker 1: We just brought this up in a recent episode. I'm surprised you asked that question because.
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Speaker 1: King just brought up something that Wayno said in a previous episode where in order to be seen once, you have to be in 20 different places. Like with this podcast, we're here in New York. And yes, we're like recording multiple episodes, but we're going on Hot 97. We're doing Breakfast Club. We're doing, you know, things because people that listen to Breakfast Club may not listen to Hot or Vice Versa. You have to put yourself in a ton of rooms to be seen and heard. It's also why we dropped twice. twice a week like you gotta you gotta be visible and you gotta give the people something so I'm not against it I'm saying I'm not spending hundreds.
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Speaker 4: Of dollars to do that shit but I don't but I mean I've never been I haven't gone to Culture Con yet but from my understanding prior to this year it was a place where possibly you could collaborate and get another job or a project done or you know collaborative stuff.
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Speaker 1: They moved away from the plot.
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Speaker 4: To me it was all it's a photo moment I saw this celebrity list thing and I'm like whoa This is heavy.
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Speaker 3: What are you learning from Aaron here? And if I can't talk to them, then that's the whole point in having people. So did culture, did we put the culture in con or did we put the con in the culture?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Because it's a conference.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. So we're supposed to watch people talk.
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Speaker 3: Yes. And give game and give gems, right? So, I mean, I'm still, you know, hopefully next year.
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Speaker 6: I'll go, but.
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Speaker 3: God bless, man.
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Speaker 1: God bless.
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Speaker 4: And also a money grab. I mean, there's big corporate interest.
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Speaker 1: So I had the VIP band, but I was a part of press.
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't pay for it, but I did realize when I got my QR code sent to me that that wristband cost $ 600. $ 300 per day.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And they ran out of Grey Goose.
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Speaker 3: And it's a comedy. I like Keto's. And they ran.
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Speaker 1: Out of the Goose. That was the only liquor sponsor that I saw on the premise.
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Speaker 3: And bitch, how you run out?
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Speaker 1: That's heavy. A motherfucking gray goose.
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Speaker 3: You can't handle endangered species vodka, nigga. First of all, having gray goose only is crazy.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy vibes like that shit. You know why it's even crazier? Because we talk about the culture. What niggas like vodka?
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Speaker 3: I'm biracial.
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Speaker 1: I get a pass. And I know it's the white side of me and the aging side of me that also can't drink juice and don't do brown liquor except for whiskey. But to know that this is a group of us and y'all have vodka, that is the last liquor that we as a community really drank together. That is the last thing that's brought. I be having to bring my own motherfucking Tito's and club soda to any even house gathering because the niggas be like, ew, vodka? You drinking vodka? They shame me every... Every day of my life, I have to Vodka.
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Speaker 3: Short of an Espresso Martini, there's no real use.
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Speaker 6: For Vodka in the modern.
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Speaker 3: Don't do this. Don't do this. No, I'm saying Espresso Martini is fine. I'm just saying, like, outside of that drink. But what's the other drink that uses Vodka nowadays, a modern drink that people actually drink?
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Speaker 1: Dirty Martini?
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Speaker 3: Cosmopolitan?
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Speaker 6: Long Island iced tea.
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Speaker 1: Long Island got a little bit of Vodka up.
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Speaker 3: In that thing. Long Island iced... Is this 1992? Who the fuck is drinking Long Island iced tea? Welcome to New York City. These niggas will drink that shit, bro. By the way, by the way. Buzzball got vodka in it, don't it? Buzzball is crazy. So a lot of the splinters are vodka. You know what's crazy?
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Speaker 1: You probably just shaded. I would say, while I think we have a very upper echelon listening audience here of Selective Ignorance, I think they're a little bit degenerative and they are drinking Long Island still.
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Speaker 6: And you out.
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Speaker 1: Here shaming them. First off, let me tell you why I'm accepting. I want to tell y'all, I am now accepting y'all ordering Long Island iced teas in 2026.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 6: You ready?
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Speaker 1: It's because this motherfucking economy. And when you go out and you stress, I understand you wanted to get there.
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Speaker 3: A little quicker, a little cheaper.
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Speaker 1: And the best way to do that is to just get a motherfucking drink that got.
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Speaker 3: About four liquors in it. Four liquors in it.
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Speaker 1: I approve Long Island iced teas in 2026.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and here's the opposing message. Now we have the State of the Union. Now here's the retort. Here's the retort to the Long Island iced tea propaganda, right? About a week ago... Oh, shit. About a week ago.
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Speaker 1: Not a personal story.
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Speaker 3: Yes, a personal story.
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Speaker 1: You're connecting to the audience.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 6: About a week ago, the three of us.
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Speaker 3: We did some... We had an interview. We sat down for an interview. And after that interview, we went to go get some lunch. We did. And at this lunch, while we're all minding our black-ass business, enjoying our food, I, Jason Jolly, was shamed by the biracial to my right.
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Speaker 6: For.
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Speaker 3: Eating tater tots. Oh, and I was told that tater tots are childish.
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Speaker 1: Childish.
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Speaker 3: While you eating them. And while I'm eating them, while I'm stuffing my face with delicious crispy tater tots, I was told.
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Speaker 4: That tater tots make ladies' pussies dry.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she did.
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Speaker 1: If I go out with a man and he ordered tater tots, he may as well have ordered his goddamn steak well done chicken fry hard, went motherfucking to California, rolled on the side, everything I hate. A grown man should not order tater tots. That is childish. It's the most unattractive way to eat a potato, if you ask me. And I am not here for it.
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Speaker 3: And I would pause it. That's all they are.
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Speaker 1: Why are you eating mini hash browns in the afternoon? It ain't even breakfast time. Hash browns is for breakfast.
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Speaker 3: I would posit to you that Long Island iced teas are the most childish drink of 21 year, of your legal drinking age. That's what you do when you're not legal drinking age.
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Speaker 1: I actually want to one you up on it. I want to one you up on it.
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Speaker 6: What's that?
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Speaker 1: The most childish drink you can order as a man or woman is a Amaretto Sour.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You can't. Okay, you can't. Yeah, you can't. You can't be drinking.
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Speaker 1: Yeah you can't do that and i'm already sour crazy.
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Speaker 4: Is that's kind of crazy that's kind of crazy that's like drinking moscato yeah the.
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Speaker 1: Nikki minaj version of moscato she had her own pink it was something like that how is it I have never bought anything that Nicki Minaj has released. Now, what's crazy is we're out here shaming food when Long Island I.C.
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Speaker 3: Is maybe the healthiest thing.
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Speaker 1: You niggas can put in your body right now because the FDA, this is America.
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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and start off here. Let's go ahead. Long Island I.C.
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Speaker 4: Being the healthiest thing you can drink is the wildest.
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Speaker 3: This is weird. 70 grams of sugar is a lot.
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Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 3: Doom want to fuck shit up now.
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Speaker 1: They just recalled a hundred and something thousand cases of Gatorade. Like, we can't even get our electrolytes no more.
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Speaker 3: My nigga. After recalling, or not even recalling, they let us know. They didn't recall it.
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Speaker 6: They didn't recall it.
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Speaker 4: The Martinelli's apple juice had Listeria in it.
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Speaker 3: Wait, are you serious? Yeah. I got a bottle in my bag right now. But that was about a month ago. That was about a month ago.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you think they got it resolved in a month? Again, these niggas is just telling you, hey. we ain't check the shit, you might get sick.
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Speaker 3: That's literally where they at. Yeah, and they'll say, hey, Laceria's is good for two days, you'll be all right.
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Speaker 1: But not only may you get sick or not get sick, they are now telling us that the products we are putting into our body are not the products we are putting into our body, such as salmon, eggs, ice cream. They are now admitting, and I have a conspiracy hot take for this, but they are now admitting to us that They are forcing us to eat science. Eat science?
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 3: What kind of science?
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Speaker 6: Lab 1, 3, 4?
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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Speaker 3: The eggs, they are saying, are coming from things that they are growing in a lab.
00:21:33
Speaker 1: The food that you are eating is really vegetable oil. It's not this. they're printing beef they're printing fish they are also not even allowing or recalling and removing our access to get seeds so we are also in a place where we cannot even grow our own food if we wanted to which is why farmers are all like bitch what the fuck we supposed to do with our health and I say all of this to say and this is gonna be this is my hot take okay.
00:22:15
Speaker 6: Here we go everybody prepare yourself I.
00:22:18
Speaker 1: Feel like this is them just trying to give us a sliver of honesty because they knew this already. The same way they came out and was like, yeah, bruh, aliens, we've been new.
00:22:29
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, yeah. We wasn't going to tell y'all all this shit.
00:22:33
Speaker 1: It just reminds me of how we go through these fads and trends of diets. We go through a thing where when we were growing up, The way they forced us to drink milk with all of our meals, like it was the best for our bones. Mind you, it's other people milk and not other people milk, other mammals milk. It wasn't our milk.
00:22:55
Speaker 3: It wasn't our milk.
00:22:55
Speaker 1: You drink this milk from a motherfucking cow, got a little pus, got a little blood, but it's going to make your bones strong.
00:23:02
Speaker 3: You're going to be big.
00:23:03
Speaker 1: Those ads aren't even here anymore.
00:23:05
Speaker 3: It's our propaganda.
00:23:06
Speaker 1: So a part of me is seeing this and I'm like, oh bitch, we've been eating fake shit. They just said, let me go ahead and tell y'all niggas this now.
00:23:14
Speaker 4: But we've been- It was all bad from the beginning. Now they just saying, okay, fuck the bad. We're going to make some new shit. Like lab grown eggs. So it looks like the eggs too.
00:23:24
Speaker 1: You crack it open.
00:23:25
Speaker 5: Yep.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: Shape like it. Texture.
00:23:28
Speaker 3: Does it crack like an egg?
00:23:29
Speaker 4: Like the egg white?
00:23:32
Speaker 3: Or is it just like some Lego? Like putty. You crack it open.
00:23:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh shit. It fried the same way, but- I'm not eating none of that shit.
00:23:42
Speaker 3: You can keep it. That's crazy. But you know, it makes sense though because- All them farmers that exist with the chickens and the hens.
00:23:47
Speaker 9: Right.
00:23:47
Speaker 3: They can produce that.
00:23:48
Speaker 1: Actually, what I'm going to do is allow y'all to listen to a video so y'all can see what the fuck is actually happening here.
00:23:53
Speaker 9: Okay.
00:23:54
Speaker 3: All that mercy. It is now confirmed.
00:23:57
Speaker 10: Lab-grown eggs are federally approved, and Walmart, alongside Target, are already selling them. The protein is squeezed out of gene-edited mold and cloned on repeat because a steel tank costs less than a hen.
00:24:11
Speaker 5: They're brewing eggs with no chicken in sight and slipping them onto your breakfast plate. That egg isn't real food. It's factory fungus, spliced with the gene for egg protein, then dumped into giant fermenting vats and fed on sugar until it swells into a wet, moldy soup.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: And it gets worse.
00:24:29
Speaker 5: That cloudy sludge is blasted into dust, ton after ton, padded out with plant filler and passed off as egg white, then buried in packaged food under labels that never say so. At Walmart, two or more of these lab egg products already sit on the shelf. Check the Farm to Table app to find real eggs from a farm near you.
00:24:48
Speaker 3: What is it labeled? Is it labeled? I need to know.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: Well, they're federally approved now, so I'm not sure how they're supposed to label it. I do know I just saw if it is lab salmon, essentially... at sushi restaurants, it'll have two asterisks now. So they are letting you know when it is lab-grown in certain restaurants. But again, how many of us, and some of you do, but I'm asking how many of us truthfully read every label of everything we put in our body? It's not realistic, right? And so even... When you go and get ice cream now, for the ice cream that doesn't use dairy, it's not that they're using almond milk or soy milk. They're using the same modified byproducts of a protein that has milk-like fungi or ingredients against science. And so if you're eating ice cream, if you go and look in your fridge right now, if it says Frozen dairy product, that is actually not milk at all. It's not dairy. That's why they can't call it ice cream.
00:25:56
Speaker 5: Right.
00:25:56
Speaker 1: So instead of calling it ice cream, you might want to make sure your ice cream says ice cream. Otherwise, when it's frozen dairy product, that's how they're letting you know that what you're putting in your body is science. And it ain't come out no motherfucking cow or almond or none of it.
00:26:12
Speaker 3: I want to say, I speak for the... The nut milk drinkers out here.
00:26:17
Speaker 9: Pause.
00:26:17
Speaker 6: Hey, yo.
00:26:18
Speaker 1: Hey.
00:26:19
Speaker 3: Almond milk. Cashew milk.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Go ahead and talk about how you like nuts.
00:26:22
Speaker 4: And I would offer you guys to look into those alternatives versus, like, you know, obviously if you're not getting, if you choose to drink whole milk, if you're not getting that, then maybe possibly look into... the alternative because that has to be far.
00:26:38
Speaker 3: More better than whatever's going on out there. And we don't know what... They would absolutely.
00:26:45
Speaker 6: You would.
00:26:45
Speaker 3: Probably go to jail in Europe for trying to serve this shit to people. You'd probably go to prison. And I have no doubt that they're not.
00:26:52
Speaker 4: You know how there's certain things they would test on animals just to see if there's reactions and they would try to treat it to figure out They're just taking this shit right off the printer.
00:27:01
Speaker 3: So in 10 years, we're going to see commercials. If you suffer from 3D malamalosia of the neck, you know what I'm saying? You've probably been eating that dairy product. The thing they said in that video, though, that is the most fucked up is... No, not even a fungus. You've asked this question before. Why is all this happening, right? What they said in there was that it's less expensive... to put all that shit in a big steel vat than it is to have actual farmland to actually do the thing the right way. And that's all it comes down to is profit margins. They will kill us to make a couple extra dollars. Not that they're not making money already. Not that the industry is in some recession that if they don't do this, the whole thing will collapse and people will lose their jobs and companies will shut down.
00:27:53
Speaker 6: They're just doing it.
00:27:54
Speaker 3: Because they can and it will make a couple more dollars. And now we all got to eat fungus and whatever the fuck that shit is so other niggas can get rich.
00:28:04
Speaker 9: Yep.
00:28:05
Speaker 6: Fucked up society, man.
00:28:07
Speaker 1: Fucked up society. And speaking of fucked up society.
00:28:09
Speaker 3: But it's still our choice to buy it, though. Yeah. Shit.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: They ain't getting my dollars.
00:28:13
Speaker 9: Nope.
00:28:13
Speaker 1: Speaking of a fucked up society, we'll go ahead and add a trigger warning here, of course, because we're going to be talking about some shit. I'm glad we're able to do this. So the Cornell 7 case is a story that's way bigger than just seven men And one woman in.
00:28:30
Speaker 3: A fry house.
00:28:31
Speaker 6: Very much so.
00:28:32
Speaker 1: So a former Cornell student alleges she was drugged and sexually assaulted by multiple fraternity members in 2024. No criminal charges have been filed at the time, but we know that it is an active case happening. Two years later, there's now a civil lawsuit. The criminal investigation has been reopened and the New York's attorney general appointed a special prosecutor. We'll get into Trump's thoughts on that. But there's three kind of reasons why this conversation has been as large as it's been. The first one, which I really want to get into, it's been really important. It's a conversation I've been having on decisions, decisions, horrible decisions for about the last 10 years. And it's fucking consent. Because goddamn, what does consent actually mean? Especially, and here's the slippery slope. And I'm going to try to share some of my personal experience while also having to navigate these conversations with my homegirls. But consent when drugs and alcohol are involved, right? Two institutions. Maybe this ain't nothing new. This ain't a culture that's new, especially when we talk about college campuses. Maybe we'll weave in. here and, of course, add in what happened at LSU because this is also something that's been brought forth with a case there. So what responsibility does a university like Cornell or any of these universities have when something like this is being reported? And the last topic, and we're going to weave into it, accountability. When the schools process, law enforcement, and the justice system produce different outcomes, who are we supposed to trust? Who are we supposed to go to? How are we actually supposed to get things within these systems to stop these types of acts from happening? Like, I don't understand how we're still not preventative or proactive to these happening, and now we're just reactive. Like, all I'm getting from all these cases and conversations is reactions. But I'm not sure what's being done to pre-prevent things now. And we'll talk about, as well, and I want to talk about New York stepping in. But let's get into it. Is the Cornell 7 case exposing a failure of individuals or a system that still doesn't know how to handle fucking sexual assault? And are we also in a place where women just... Don't get to be the victim. There's layers here. I want to talk about it. Y'all know I'm very big on having these conversations, so I love to have it with two responsible, thoughtful men. But how do we navigate these conversations and what should be had? Let's go. Also, let's just start with your thoughts on it all.
00:31:17
Speaker 6: Well, you talk about preventative, right?
00:31:19
Speaker 3: And like, you know, it's unfortunate that words like patriarchy have turned into like these like buzzwords almost like a slur that people kind of scoff at like as if it's not a real thing or some shit that people are making up but like the truth of the matter is is that men as a whole all of us all of us whether you've been accused of a sexual assault or not, whether you've done a sexual assault or not, whether you know someone who you have a friend who's a little too handsy, whether you know your cousin or somebody who's in your close proximity is inappropriate with women. We've all done things to make it harder for women to say that they've been assaulted and We've made it harder for women to be believed that they've been assaulted. Like, niggas think this shit is actually rare. Like, people think that rape isn't a thing that just happens a lot. It's just more often than not, niggas are getting blamed for whatever dumb reason niggas want to come up with for why women are just lying on men and trying to make it like as if these things don't occur on a regular basis.
00:32:31
Speaker 1: But even the lying on men, if you talk to women, right, every woman I know has an experience of being sexually assaulted. The stats, and I don't know, A-King, if you could pull it up, but I want to say three in every four women have experienced even an element of rape. And so what's crazy is on the other end when we have these conversations, men act like they know no rapists. Men act like they have nobody in... no man I know be acting like, how?
00:33:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody's lying.
00:33:06
Speaker 1: We only getting assaulted by the same three men in the world. Like, I don't understand how as women we've all held this experience, but men are still acting still so oblivious to this. And even the apologists in the comments, men blaming this woman for being drunk, for being naked, for like the pure idea that people don't understand that I can consent to one thing and not consent to something else within the bedroom.
00:33:31
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
00:33:32
Speaker 1: It's mind boggling to me.
00:33:33
Speaker 3: It's actually crazy.
00:33:34
Speaker 1: At any point you have the right to say no. And I just don't understand how we're here. We're here in a place where as a woman, you're still being blamed for showing up and being with men. Do you realize that a woman cannot be raped if a rapist is not present? Right.
00:33:51
Speaker 3: Hello.
00:33:52
Speaker 4: There's a, um, I saw this video and I have some interesting stats here about that. Um, I saw a video, I can't remember the exact terminology, but they, I'm going to just summarize it as, um, compassionate consent when you're in the act of lovemaking that there's levels, there's layers of, of, um.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: That question that you can ask, not without asking it.
00:34:12
Speaker 4: Corny or whatever, where you're in the moment of it, but you're also respecting that this is a human being that has the right to say, all right, I don't want to do this anymore.
00:34:20
Speaker 3: I'm not with that, right.
00:34:22
Speaker 4: But one out, it says, the stats said that about one in five women experience completed or attempted rape in their lifetime, while roughly one in 14, two, one in 33 men experience rape or attempted rape.
00:34:39
Speaker 3: This is the crazy part.
00:34:40
Speaker 4: People ages 12 to 34 face the highest risk.
00:34:44
Speaker 6: 12 to 34.
00:34:45
Speaker 3: 12 to 34.
00:34:46
Speaker 4: Over 50% of victims first experience sexual violence before 25. About 80% to 85% sexual assaults are committed by someone known to the victim, including what she just was talking about.
00:35:01
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Acquaintances or intimate partners.
00:35:04
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing, right? Like, there was clearly.
00:35:07
Speaker 3: Which is insanity.
00:35:07
Speaker 1: Well, there was clearly a relationship with the woman and this man.
00:35:11
Speaker 6: Right.
00:35:12
Speaker 1: The unfortunate part of this is I'm sure she was completely unaware that he was in a group chat of about 57 men.
00:35:20
Speaker 6: Which is.
00:35:22
Speaker 1: Where what happened here is he posted the photo and said, she going.
00:35:26
Speaker 3: Right.
00:35:27
Speaker 1: As the new YNs are saying, she going. And he invited... Men to come in and partake. And what she ends up saying is a gang rape. Now, there have been a record. There's been a recording that released between the victim, the Jane Doe, and one of the accused in what really played back yesterday. Unfortunately, what we're also seeing are these men coming out and now trying to uno reverse card saying that, well, we were drunk, so you didn't get my consent. It's disgusting the things that they're coming out to say. I want to add to this. This was a post posted by the Real DL Hughley. I just saw that out of the 57 men on the Cornell group, one of them was asleep while the rape went down. And when he awoke and read the group text, he was upset and angry about it. He sent the text and the screenshots to the victim for her use as proof. That is the evidence that she is now using. So I guess one out of 57 men did the right thing. And people still want to know why women choose the bear. Now, it's crazy because she's getting shamed as a woman for having consensual sex. And none of these men are being shamed for the rape. In fact, this happened two years ago. And they were all able to not only stay on campus and go to class, they were all just told to write her an apology letter. Now, one of them recently was let go from Wells Fargo.
00:36:52
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:36:54
Speaker 1: There's been just there's just been this is an ever changing thing. I want to add to New York is a state. The New York attorney general, Letitia James, is replacing the D.A., but they are also looking to change the law here in New York. And I'm not sure if I saved the right link for that. Let me see if I could say. But, yeah, I don't know.
00:37:20
Speaker 3: How do we.
00:37:23
Speaker 1: Let me ask y'all personally, because I know y'all are in the group chat with me and Dee and Yomi. What are these conversations or are y'all having this conversation at all in your group chat full of men?
00:37:38
Speaker 6: About this case?
00:37:39
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:37:39
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
00:37:40
Speaker 6: We've talked about this case a couple times.
00:37:41
Speaker 1: What does it sound like? How are y'all moving this conversation forward as men?
00:37:48
Speaker 3: I think the thing that in my group chats with my friends, I think one of the biggest things is like we, and it's one of those things that I hate about even men who are trying to be on the right side of the issue. still say shit like, my sister and my mom and my cousin, my girlfriend, my wife, whatever the case is. And it's like, we got to get past the part where any of that shit matters. It doesn't matter if every single person you know in your entire life is a man. You should still be able to look at these situations and say, this is fucked up. It shouldn't take a woman that's close to you in your life for you to learn how to be civilized, how to have empathy, how to look at things in a fair kind of way.
00:38:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
00:38:44
Speaker 3: And so that's one of the main things I say a lot is that, like, I get that niggas are, I understand what niggas are saying when they say that. Because I'm not saying that it's not true that if you thought about your sister or your wife or someone, a woman close to you going through this, how that would be hurtful to you. But that can't be the reason why you learn... empathy, why you learn more information about these subjects and why they keep happening.
00:39:09
Speaker 1: Now, I want to go ahead and mark. So the current law for New York, and this is, again, because of this case, they're literally looking to update and change law. So let me go ahead and share with you all what New York is doing. So the current law currently states and differentiates. Let's get in here. The distinctions. New York is one of 19 U.S. states that differentiate between voluntary and involuntary intoxication when evaluating consent. So the loophole is that under current state law, a person is considered mentally incapacitated and incapable to consent. Primarily if an intoxicating substance was administered to them without their consent, like being roofy.
00:39:52
Speaker 3: Right. Correct.
00:39:53
Speaker 1: The gap, however, is if an individual voluntarily drinks alcohol or consumes drugs and later becomes too incapacitated to consent. Local prosecutors have historically faced a high burden of proof or found the case. difficult to charge under criminal statutes. So what they're looking to do is to remove the distinction. Lawmakers are looking to remove this to allow prosecutions, regardless of whether intoxication was voluntary or involuntary. And this is, I think, where I would like the conversation to go to the most with both men and women. As someone who likes partying, as someone who actually, through therapy, realized my lack of comfort or lack of trust with partners and drinking made me more free to do the things with men that I honestly didn't really, you know.
00:40:49
Speaker 3: It lowered your inhibitions in a way.
00:40:51
Speaker 1: It lowered my inhibitions, but I realized how unhealthy and how unsafe that was. And so in therapy, having that conversation, Like, there's been moments where I was with partners that I really, really, really loved or really liked or really was like, I am going to fuck the shit out of you tonight and had to wake up the next morning to ask, did we use a condom? How was it? What did we do? What did I tell you to do? Because I literally did not even remember. And they would let me know, no, you wanted it. And I'm sure I did. But the scariness of waking up the next morning And consenting and not remembering.
00:41:31
Speaker 6: And not remembering, yeah.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: And not being able to blame them because I'm one of... And this is an awful thing to say, but there's high-functioning alcoholics.
00:41:41
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:41:41
Speaker 1: Where, again, your friend... Let's talk about a high-functioning alcoholic real quick. Your friend that lets you know the next day they don't remember how everyone got home, but that was who drove you home.
00:41:54
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:41:55
Speaker 1: That's the functioning alcoholic, right? Where you can't tell... They might not be slurring. They might not be falling over.
00:42:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:42:02
Speaker 3: But they're drunk.
00:42:03
Speaker 6: They're just as drunk as everybody else.
00:42:04
Speaker 1: They are gone.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: Yep.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: And so for me, the conversation needs to be with young men and young women around the inhibitions to drink and have sex. And specifically for our youth and to protect men more as well because they can't tell. As women, I mean, as men... You shouldn't be fucking a bitch drunk at this point.
00:42:32
Speaker 6: You are rolling the dice.
00:42:34
Speaker 1: You are rolling the dice. And I think these are the conversations that need to be had more like, hey. excited consent is what you should be going for.
00:42:44
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
00:42:45
Speaker 1: Like they should be like, yes, sober consent is what should be encouraged. If someone is inebriated, if someone is high, if someone is drunk, if someone had too much to drink, you have zero way of telling where they're at, on that journey of completely not being sober or able to give actual consent. You have zero, you have zero knowledge to tell. You are not a goddamn breathalyzer.
00:43:11
Speaker 3: Right, right.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: Those aren't given out. If a woman is that, and apparently that's another thing that makes this tricky. Jane Doe in this case is saying, not only did she come after hanging out at a bar, a sorority party, she claims that She was over 10 shots in, 10 drinks in.
00:43:31
Speaker 3: That's an insane amount for anybody.
00:43:34
Speaker 1: For anybody.
00:43:34
Speaker 3: I don't care how big you are. It doesn't even matter. 10 shots of anything, you're going to be wasted.
00:43:39
Speaker 6: Blackout drunk.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: And so the discernment, I need men to discern that. And ladies, ladies, I get it. I've been there. I've done it. I've got my coochie thumping when I had a couple of drinks, a little shoom, a little something. But there's a, There's a thing that we have to do as well. And it starts with like really caring about our safety and ourself because a lot of people aren't going to do it.
00:44:07
Speaker 6: Unfortunately.
00:44:08
Speaker 1: Some of our own family members don't really care about our safety or have that concern. And so as women, we do have to find a way to be like, damn.
00:44:17
Speaker 9: Nope. Not tonight.
00:44:19
Speaker 1: I'm going to take my ass home.
00:44:20
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:44:21
Speaker 1: Because also putting trust in men to handle you with care. We see how that goes.
00:44:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: And there's no right or wrong way to talk about this, but I think to me, in hearing this case and talking to my homegirls and us reliving moments, that damn.
00:44:40
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: Ooh. It could have been worse for me, and I'm glad it wasn't.
00:44:46
Speaker 3: Right.
00:44:46
Speaker 1: And going out and trusting people and hopping in cars, I could have ended up in someone's luggage chopped up because, and so there's just, There's a conversation around how we can enjoy life with all of these vices while staying safe.
00:45:06
Speaker 4: I think the part of it too is that it starts, we got to get back to the basics. And I think we have to have men who value women teach other young men how to deal with women.
00:45:18
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:45:19
Speaker 3: And not deal with women like how to talk to them, how to get them to like you.
00:45:22
Speaker 4: It's safety first. It's reading the room, learning the cues, understanding what safety looks like. Understanding you should be in a position where you're providing safety and it's okay if she says, no, I'm not feeling it right now.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: And it's still okay. You got to be okay with that.
00:45:39
Speaker 4: That don't mean that just because she may be vulnerable in that moment that you have the right to, you know, to proceed.
00:45:46
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:45:49
Speaker 4: Sex education is just more you know it should be more than just STDs and pregnancy yeah it should be about how do you communicate and learn the opposite sex I.
00:46:02
Speaker 1: Also want to talk about like this gets tricky too because of course being in lifestyle in the kink space there are women that do consent and want to experience this right and I think what's disgusting about how the frat boys are even trying to turn and flip this One of the frat members says that she was the aggressor and didn't ask him for consent. He says, I remember the girl in specific saying something along the lines, this was normal in medieval times. Also later goes to say that after expressing being uncomfortable, he still went forward.
00:46:37
Speaker 6: Retreat.
00:46:39
Speaker 3: Retreat. When you hear that, you know something. That's what I was talking about. This should have been accused.
00:46:45
Speaker 6: You know what?
00:46:46
Speaker 3: This is not going to end well. I don't want to be the responsible adult in the room. Like, yo, we should leave. If you're saying she was the aggressor and you didn't know what it was, then that means that if you're the one that's uncomfortable, then you should stop as the man.
00:47:04
Speaker 6: Then you should stop.
00:47:05
Speaker 3: It's not even about blaming her, but I'm just saying if you're rational enough to conceptualize that... that, oh, she was being super aggressive with me. He's like, well, nigga, you did not know what to do. You're not confused. Hey, this is not going the way I think it should go. Let's back off of it. But one of the things that pisses me off about this New York law, not the new law that's being proposed, but the loophole, I guess we'll call it.
00:47:32
Speaker 6: Is that.
00:47:34
Speaker 3: It's trying to draw a distinction between voluntary and involuntary intoxication. The reason that doesn't make any fucking sense is because the intoxication is the exact same.
00:47:46
Speaker 6: The result is the same.
00:47:48
Speaker 3: If I decide to drink 10 shots of vodka, I'm going to be drunk. If somebody slips me 10 shots of vodka, I'm still drunk. It doesn't matter whether you did it on purpose or not. It's totally irrelevant. So the idea that there's supposed to be a loophole for someone to say, like, well, I was drunk.
00:48:06
Speaker 1: The loophole that y'all are literally providing a scapegoat bullshit argument for a rapist.
00:48:12
Speaker 3: For someone who literally.
00:48:15
Speaker 1: Violated another human being. It goes back to this bullshit hypocrisy. Can we stop acting like we care about human life when it comes to abortion laws and what we can and cannot do with our body when literally you do not care what gets done to our bodies? What the fuck are we talking about? I think it's interesting. Y'all know how I told y'all to look through, if you're dating somebody, look through their tweets. How they talked about Meg and how they talked about certain, you need to go see how the people in your life are having discussions around this goddamn case. Because if at any motherfucking point in time, they lean into questioning Jane Doe and whether or not she wanted this, you need to sit down and have a really, really clear conversation with them because this is the time we educate and fix the loose screws in these motherfuckers' minds.
00:49:13
Speaker 3: And you know the thing that, and I still see comments from this post today from an episode that we had before and people really don't get it.
00:49:21
Speaker 1: No, they don't.
00:49:23
Speaker 3: The last episode that we had Antoinette on, you asked a question about what kind of conversations black women should have with their partners about some of these celebrity cases. And the comments is full of dumbass, loofing-ass niggas who were like, that's what you talking about about relationship? What the fuck that got to do with a real relationship? Are you talking about celebrities? Why not talk about God and talk about who they were? Because they did that shit. And it's like, the fucking point, dickhead, is that you can get to know how people think about these issues based on these cases. It can be a conversation that isn't about, because you're not going to ask nobody, what do you think about rape?
00:50:01
Speaker 6: Most people are going to be like, rape is bad.
00:50:03
Speaker 3: But so, no, don't... But then this is the great... When you have a specific conversation about a specific case, now they start telling on themselves.
00:50:12
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
00:50:12
Speaker 3: They're turning all the information that they wouldn't just say flat out because it sounds bad will come right out.
00:50:17
Speaker 1: But even that, there's seven men that violated this woman If I hear a motherfucker say, well, we need more, I need more proof.
00:50:25
Speaker 3: More proof and more evidence.
00:50:28
Speaker 1: Y'all become motherfucking detectives only to clear the treacherous acts of these fucking men that you don't know. As if you got to stand up for mankind to be racist. What are we fucking talking about?
00:50:41
Speaker 3: But we can say easily that without any legal jargon, without any court case, we can say definitively George Zimmerman is a murderer.
00:50:52
Speaker 5: Hello.
00:50:54
Speaker 3: He wasn't convicted.
00:50:55
Speaker 6: He got off.
00:50:56
Speaker 3: We can say Donald Trump and his little cronies are weirdo sex traffickers, pedophiles. We don't need five million court cases for that. But when it comes to a woman getting raped by seven people, now niggas want to turn into Judge Judy and motherfucking have all the legal scholarship in the world to try to figure out.
00:51:16
Speaker 1: To me, it's weird when it's a crime against women done by men How many men feel personally attacked.
00:51:25
Speaker 3: That men behave this way? Why do you internalize that?
00:51:27
Speaker 4: I don't understand.
00:51:28
Speaker 1: What? This isn't a gender war manosphere conversation, guys.
00:51:31
Speaker 3: At all. This is real fucking life.
00:51:32
Speaker 4: I can promise you I've never felt the way like where I needed to be extra emotional about the possible outcome or not of another scenario. You observe it. You read what's going on. You look at what it is and you make your observation.
00:51:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:51:45
Speaker 1: But not only the observation, you got to realize that, oh shit, I see what's happening here. I'm going to see what's happening through this case. I hate that this happened to this woman because it's so heinous. But damn, let me make sure I don't put myself in this position. Right.
00:52:00
Speaker 3: Or I don't perpetuate the culture that uplifts this thing.
00:52:04
Speaker 1: So this idea of you now feeling attacked as a man because we're talking about these seven rapists or this case as a whole, it's just like, are you feeling... If you're a man that feels personally attacked by the conversations around this, you, sir, are uplifting, upholding, and a part of the problem of this rape culture that we have in existence today. What I also hate is that y'all motherfuckers really act like and say that you don't realize or... It's not until you get a daughter that you understand.
00:52:36
Speaker 6: I don't like any of that shit.
00:52:37
Speaker 3: I don't get that shit.
00:52:38
Speaker 6: I don't like any of that shit.
00:52:39
Speaker 1: It takes you to be a girl dad and birth a girl to actually care about women?
00:52:42
Speaker 3: To care about women, yeah.
00:52:43
Speaker 1: How about for you motherfuckers who don't have daughters? You just care about women because we're fucking human.
00:52:49
Speaker 4: Because you're a decent person. But I'm glad we got to this point. Because they're over-hypersexual, too.
00:52:54
Speaker 6: Well, that's true.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: They look at women as objects. Right.
00:52:56
Speaker 6: And that's part of the patriarchy.
00:52:58
Speaker 4: And they're going to be in the comments, oh, you knew this.
00:53:01
Speaker 3: No, it ain't about that.
00:53:02
Speaker 5: Oh, no.
00:53:02
Speaker 3: I'm glad we got here because I'm about to read something that's going to piss them off even more.
00:53:06
Speaker 6: Let's go.
00:53:06
Speaker 3: Let's get it. So a group of people, activists, gathered together. to support this new law changing in new york okay and one of the people in that group was a woman named ashley staggers ashley staggers is actually miss manhattan she's a beauty pageant winner so she is a current miss manhattan okay and um One of the— let me make sure I get this person. He is a— Carl Heastie. He is a Bronx Democrat State Assembly speaker. Okay.
00:53:40
Speaker 6: He is one of the people who— let me make sure here.
00:53:47
Speaker 3: So he has basically declined to push this measure forward, this law change.
00:53:53
Speaker 9: Oh.
00:53:54
Speaker 3: And Ashley Staggers at this press conference, for lack of a better term, One of the pushbacks that people like Heastie had about changing his law was the fear that because black men and Latin Latino men often face unfair trials in the criminal justice system, that this law change might aid.
00:54:17
Speaker 6: In that change.
00:54:20
Speaker 3: And that deference, that bias against black men and Latino women, Latino men. And here's what Ashley Stagger said that is going to piss off a lot of these obtuse niggas. Loofing? These loofing niggas. Loofing twos. Loofing twos. Loofing twos.
00:54:37
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
00:54:40
Speaker 3: So she says, Assembly Member Heastie, justice for black men cannot come at the.
00:54:46
Speaker 6: Expense of justice for women.
00:54:49
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
00:54:51
Speaker 6: So what she's talking about is.
00:54:55
Speaker 3: You're afraid that black men will be treated unfairly because of this change in law. And I'm talking about women who have you talking about the hypothetical thing that might happen. And we're talking to you about women who have actually been raped, not a hypothetical rape, not a hypothetical sexual assault, a real thing that happens. So the question really becomes the core of this question really becomes. For people who are pushing back against this, what are we valuing in society? Are we valuing the people who actually get done dirty? Or are you trying to value the people who might hypothetically could possibly be affected in some kind of obscure way by change in a law? And I would posit to everybody that the person that we always need to censor who needs to be protected the most are the people who are being done a pawn.
00:55:49
Speaker 6: And so whatever.
00:55:50
Speaker 3: Of course, I don't want anyone to be falsely accused and go to jail for some shit that they didn't do. But that's not the point of laws. The point of the law is to protect the people who were victimized. And if those things... If someone gets falsely accused of something, then let's find the best way to adjudicate that and find what we need to do to prove that that wasn't actually the case and go about their business.
00:56:13
Speaker 6: But for people who have been.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: actually done wrong, those are the people who deserve the justice.
00:56:20
Speaker 1: It just sucks because this goes back to the lack of empathy for promiscuous women, sex workers, porn stars.
00:56:30
Speaker 6: You don't deserve.
00:56:31
Speaker 1: You don't deserve the empathy because you signed up for it.
00:56:35
Speaker 7: Right.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: And no one signs up to be violated.
00:56:38
Speaker 6: That's not a thing.
00:56:38
Speaker 1: No one signs up to be disrespected.
00:56:40
Speaker 3: That's not a thing.
00:56:41
Speaker 1: And again, just know a woman can consent, For a lot of things. And in the middle of it, say, I don't like this.
00:56:49
Speaker 6: Take it away whenever she wants to.
00:56:50
Speaker 1: And take it away.
00:56:51
Speaker 3: And men, you too. Yes.
00:56:53
Speaker 1: If a woman is doing something that does not feel good to you in the moment, you could say, you know what, this isn't working for me. And you have the power to stop it. Consent can change at any moment.
00:57:04
Speaker 6: Consent is not in perpetuity.
00:57:06
Speaker 3: Hello. Consent is not in perpetuity. I can say right now, yes, I want to do X, Y, and Z. And then you start doing it. I don't like that. Let's stop. You can't be back. Well, a second ago, you just said, then let's just... That's like, come on, man. Y'all got to be smarter than that. If you're not smarter than that.
00:57:22
Speaker 11: Well, fuck it.
00:57:23
Speaker 6: Catch a case.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: Fuck it. And go to prison. And go to prison. And we're not.
00:57:26
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other problem.
00:57:27
Speaker 3: Fuck it.
00:57:27
Speaker 1: These niggas not. They're not fucking going to goddamn jail.
00:57:30
Speaker 3: That's a goddamn fucking motherfucker. And that's part of this law.
00:57:33
Speaker 4: Well, that's why Letitia James was about to put belt to ass.
00:57:37
Speaker 6: Come on, Letitia James. Yeah, bring that shit out.
00:57:39
Speaker 1: Well, let's go ahead and get into another case. While speaking of sexual assault.
00:57:43
Speaker 11: Oh, damn.
00:57:43
Speaker 3: Another one. Another one.
00:57:44
Speaker 1: Hey, now this one.
00:57:45
Speaker 6: This one's a little different.
00:57:46
Speaker 3: This one's a little different. This one we might have a couple. We're not going to conflate two names. Two names can be different.
00:57:53
Speaker 4: Oh, we're going from New York City right down to Georgia.
00:57:57
Speaker 1: I'm going to play a clip. A Georgia woman went to the internet and pleaded for help. After being homeless, she said that she was mislabeled a sex offender after being fired for having an intimate relationship with an inmate while she worked at a jail. And this is what she had to say.
00:58:19
Speaker 2: It's time for me to tell my truth. I'm going to make this as quick as I can.
00:58:26
Speaker 9: Clayton County has labeled me as a sex offender because I got in trouble back in 2022. They charged me with sexual contact by law enforcement. or agent because I had a mutual relationship with a grown man while I was working there.
00:58:43
Speaker 3: Things did go far.
00:58:44
Speaker 2: Yes, I was wrong. Am I a sex offender? Hell no. I have been living with this label for almost three years now.
00:58:53
Speaker 9: I've lived in a trailer with no running water.
00:58:56
Speaker 2: So you can only imagine what I've been doing to.
00:58:58
Speaker 9: Try to use the restroom or just make food.
00:59:03
Speaker 3: Fast forward.
00:59:04
Speaker 6: You're bad.
00:59:06
Speaker 2: Gave me a date to get off probation, which was June 21st.
00:59:10
Speaker 9: 29th because they know that in my paperwork it says I cannot be around.
00:59:14
Speaker 8: Children not even my own children so I was forced to get off before I gave birth they went out because I was pregnant and so it pushed me back and they know damn well that they were going to try to take my son from me or separate me.
00:59:27
Speaker 3: From my son.
00:59:29
Speaker 6: She got the game fucked up.
00:59:31
Speaker 1: Now, it continues. Now, this is Mary Moore, who was charged in 2022 over this sexual contact. She went on a press run and tried to act like we didn't have sex, though. There was oral sex that happened. By the way, the jail did obtain video footage, which has not been leaked. But in this case and for this charge, there was video evidence of this inappropriate relationship happening. That happened between these two consenting adults.
01:00:00
Speaker 6: Oral sex is sex.
01:00:02
Speaker 1: But now let's get into two consenting adults and there's still being consequences here, right? So she says that due to housing restrictions and all the things because she is now labeled a sex offender, it's been hard for her to find a place to live or to stay with family and friends because if y'all don't know, Once you on that registry, hun, you can't be near a school, a park. I don't know where. Nicki Minaj got to be living in the woods. But once you are on this registry, it gets pretty complicated. Now, here's where, baby, Grace didn't enter the chat with Mia. Now, sex offender, yes.
01:00:52
Speaker 3: And you know why?
01:00:54
Speaker 1: Because of the terms and conditions, bitch. What you signed when you agreed to take that job removed any rights for you to consensually engage in sex with any of the inmates. But the other element here that is really big Is the power dynamic.
01:01:12
Speaker 6: There you go.
01:01:13
Speaker 1: That's what makes you a sex offender.
01:01:15
Speaker 6: That's what makes you a sex offender.
01:01:18
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
01:01:19
Speaker 1: Piggyback him.
01:01:19
Speaker 3: For the same reason that, like, technically, like, if you want to keep it a buck, like, Bill Clinton could be looked at as a sex offender.
01:01:30
Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
01:01:31
Speaker 3: Because, like you said, the power dynamic. If you have that level of power over someone, if you're a CO and you're having sex with an inmate, no, they can't, even as a grown adult, no, they can't consent because you have the power to make their life a living hell. You have the power to punish them, to have complete control over this person, in this case, a prisoner. No, there is no consent.
01:01:58
Speaker 1: I think that's my other part of this, right? If you know the consequences of something and you do it anyway in hopes of not being caught, you don't get empathy later. You don't get to say it was a mistake. I'm sorry.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: My bad.
01:02:13
Speaker 1: You knew the consequences going in. Like my nigga, if you rob a bank and down the line, you're like, damn, I made that mistake and robbed a bank. Well, bitch, you knew it was illegal when you did it. If you steal something, robbing a bank is probably to the extreme. But it's just like, I made a mistake. Like, imagine if these seven Cornell men got to just say, I made a mistake. Like, if we're going to handle sexual assault or sex in a way that isn't leaving someone, like, again, with the power dynamic, that man probably felt like he had to get his dicks up, which is crazy.
01:02:55
Speaker 3: I hear the ignorant take coming. Uh-oh!
01:02:58
Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
01:02:58
Speaker 3: I don't... I'm looking at these laws. Oh, God. She might be predatory.
01:03:06
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go with the.
01:03:07
Speaker 3: I think she has a case to fight if she had the resources. Only based on language.
01:03:11
Speaker 1: Give me the... Are you looking for the state of Georgia, by the way?
01:03:14
Speaker 3: Yes. Now, the thing is... Talk to me. Now, this is... I'm not an attorney. I don't know. I'm just thinking about... How these things happen. Our grandmamas always say the flesh is weak. Yeah. And a brother in jail... I don't think he was offended.
01:03:29
Speaker 4: I don't think he was in a position where he looked at it as he's being violated.
01:03:34
Speaker 3: Sure.
01:03:35
Speaker 4: I think he saw it as a beautiful, wonderful opportunity.
01:03:38
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure he did.
01:03:38
Speaker 4: The problem in this scenario, she got caught on camera on 4K. So now other.
01:03:42
Speaker 1: People have- Or 1080p.
01:03:46
Speaker 3: 720 maybe.
01:03:47
Speaker 4: But they saw it and they're like, oh, that's Letitia, whatever her name is. And they put that label on her, right? They cast her out as a result. Yes, you're not supposed to be doing that. I don't know if she is a sexual offender. She did the violation, of course. Offender, I would... Now, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying.
01:04:08
Speaker 3: That for those out there.
01:04:12
Speaker 4: Did he come to authority to say, yo, I'm being violated by this correction officer?
01:04:17
Speaker 6: Well, I.
01:04:19
Speaker 1: But again, the same way.
01:04:22
Speaker 1: We look at consent, right? It's a relationship that shouldn't have happened. Like the same dynamic of, now we're going to pedophilia.
01:04:33
Speaker 6: A little bit. Go ahead and say it, because I'm with you. I'm about to say the same thing.
01:04:36
Speaker 3: It's the same thing? No, because listen, I'd say who else wasn't offended and who didn't feel a type of way and enjoyed what was going on when it was going on? Kylie Jenner. When she was dating Tyga. I don't think that Kylie Jenner thought anything was wrong with what was going on, but you know what? It was still wrong.
01:04:55
Speaker 4: You're talking about in the age difference? Yeah, the age difference.
01:05:00
Speaker 3: She didn't go to authorities and say that Tyga sexually assaulted me. She didn't go to authorities and say Tyga drugged me or pushed up on me or did.
01:05:08
Speaker 6: Something that I was uncomfortable with.
01:05:09
Speaker 3: So the inmate that was clapping her cheeks- That's probably the same age bracket. Probably the same age bracket, but the point... I guess what I'm saying is that even if he didn't feel like he didn't have a problem with what was going on, it's still wrong on her part. No, I get the wrong, but should she be deemed as a sexual offender? I don't have it.
01:05:29
Speaker 4: My only thing is, yeah, she violated whatever the code of conduct is as a correction officer.
01:05:35
Speaker 3: However, the labeling... Of sex offender? I mean, to me, if you take advantage of someone... And a power dynamic.
01:05:44
Speaker 6: Okay.
01:05:44
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess the question is, this is going to sound ignorant as hell because it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. But let's say the situation wasn't in prison and it was just two people out on the street. Clapping cheeks. No, no. But that's, but would she be? Would that man have allowed to smash that lady?
01:06:07
Speaker 9: Maybe.
01:06:10
Speaker 3: Would he been would they have had sexual intercourse if there wasn't a dynamic of this is the CEO and I'm the prisoner and I'm in here and I just I want to fuck something. So she took advantage of the opportunity and opportunity.
01:06:23
Speaker 1: Right.
01:06:23
Speaker 3: And so to me, taking advantage of something makes you an offender. Fair.
01:06:29
Speaker 6: Now, like you said.
01:06:30
Speaker 3: I don't know the legal jargon there. Yeah, I don't know the legalities behind this. Again, there could be loopholes or, like you said, language that makes things different.
01:06:39
Speaker 4: They're basically saying she can die because if she's not in any type of living conditions that.
01:06:45
Speaker 1: Meets the standards.
01:06:45
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go. Here we go. You ready?
01:06:47
Speaker 1: Uh-oh. I was looking for it.
01:06:49
Speaker 8: There you go.
01:06:50
Speaker 3: I got it.
01:06:50
Speaker 6: What's up?
01:06:52
Speaker 1: The key Georgia law. is that an incarcerated person legally cannot consent to sexual contact with certain correctional employees who have authority or supervisory responsibility over them. Georgia's sexual assault statute specifically covers sexual content between people in positions of authority, including COs, and people in their custody or supervision.
01:07:18
Speaker 6: That's it.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: Even if the jail employee and inmate both describe the relationship as consensual, but the inmate agreed to it, generally isn't a defense under this statute. And the law treats the power imbalance itself as the problem. So the employee controls or participates in a system controlling the incarcerated person's movement, privileges, discipline, and safety.
01:07:42
Speaker 9: Right.
01:07:43
Speaker 1: So under Georgia.
01:07:45
Speaker 3: Law, bitch.
01:07:46
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:07:47
Speaker 1: You literally... This person cannot legally consent.
01:07:52
Speaker 6: Well, you know how they say that inmates are like.
01:07:55
Speaker 3: Slavery still exists if you're an inmate and you're working to make license plates or sewing shirts for pennies a day like you're a slave. When you're a slave, you're not a person. When you're a slave, you're not a human.
01:08:08
Speaker 6: So you don't.
01:08:08
Speaker 3: Have any agency. You don't have any consent. You don't have any authority. You are basically controlled by another person. And that person, in this case, is... This woman.
01:08:18
Speaker 1: And again, I know there's a lot of comments, too, under these posts that bring up, like, the Baltimore CO, or there was, like, five women that got all pregnant by the same man. Again, when you have certain jobs, when you take on certain roles in different institutions, baby, look up them laws in your state, huh?
01:08:40
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. The flesh is weak, Mandy.
01:08:42
Speaker 1: Hello?
01:08:43
Speaker 6: The very.
01:08:43
Speaker 3: When that coochie start. All right.
01:08:45
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
01:08:47
Speaker 1: Oh, listen, I ain't going to hold you.
01:08:48
Speaker 3: You said five women got pregnant by the same inmate? What are we talking about? Hey, hear me out.
01:08:53
Speaker 1: Hear me out. Hear me out.
01:08:54
Speaker 3: That nigga was thumping.
01:08:56
Speaker 2: Yo.
01:08:56
Speaker 3: They was on schedule. You see how we got our recording scheduled? I got five guests tomorrow. And a bonus.
01:09:04
Speaker 1: Listen, and I know there's some fine shit in jail. It's why I would never apply to work. I don't know if I would not be tempted to sleep with fine shit. No, it's funny because I ain't watching it yet, but you see the new Tyler Perry movie. It's about this man that get out of jail. And so I saw a comment that was saying, Damn, ladies, all of our soulmates, we just got to wait for them to get out of jail. Get the fuck out of here. It's like, it's like romanticizing.
01:09:28
Speaker 3: Tricky.
01:09:28
Speaker 4: Well, they don't have apps about that where you can go on an app and have like 10 pounds.
01:09:32
Speaker 3: Oh, no, it made their time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:09:33
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. To be fair, there's a lot of women that are broken and love the power dynamic of knowing where they mean is at all times.
01:09:41
Speaker 3: Right?
01:09:41
Speaker 1: Like, I've had friends date men in jail who loved that, ooh, I know exactly where he is every night. And he not outside in the streets with these bitches. So, I get it, but you know, it's tricky.
01:09:53
Speaker 6: Or some women who think they can fix niggas.
01:09:55
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a whole, that's a whole, that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother thing.
01:09:59
Speaker 1: Y'all, this is not a sports podcast, but, however, Texas, Texans linebacker Aziz Alshier was told by an NFL official to remove the name of Wafa Akilah, an eight-year-old Palestinian girl killed in Gaza. He had the name written under his eye patch and he pretty much came out and said, you know, that he was told that he would not be allowed to continue playing if he continued to politicize his under-eyed things. Now, It's getting tricky out here now. They're wanting to stop Palestine support or get banned or remove you from tours. And I just, again, don't understand why so many people are okay with being on the bad side of history here. Like, why is it bad that we don't want a genocide? Like, again.
01:10:56
Speaker 3: Mandy, it's the powers that be that fund this shit.
01:11:00
Speaker 4: So you are the mercy of the dollar that breeds the power. So you do as I say, nigga, or don't play again.
01:11:07
Speaker 1: Imagine you dating someone, you being family members or friends with an individual who is enraged by you caring about the death of a child. That makes sense. And I guess that's where we need to check more of the people the fuck around us. How are you as a ref or institution or business or an owner or whatever? Enraged at someone just saying, these children, I wish they would stop being killed. How does that enrage you enough to like try to ban somebody from participating in a goddamn sport or for singing at a stadium or for being an employee at this job? Like, or how?
01:11:51
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing.
01:11:52
Speaker 3: It's like this shit is, it's the thing that goes on in a lot of situations nowadays that people, I really wish people could let go at least be self-aware enough to let go, is this like reflexive defensiveness. Like a little while ago, we talked about, you know, women say things about men and a self-aware man doesn't have to take that personally. You're not talking about you. So you don't have to be automatically reflexively defensive to be like, nah, nah, nah, because you don't got to do that, bro.
01:12:22
Speaker 6: You don't have to do that.
01:12:24
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times that's what it comes down to is that some of it is disingenuine because people just think that I guess Israel can do no wrong, which I think is weird.
01:12:33
Speaker 6: Because, like.
01:12:34
Speaker 1: So weird.
01:12:34
Speaker 3: What country can't, like... Can't do no wrong. Can't do no wrong. Like, they're countries. They do wrong. That's kind of the point.
01:12:39
Speaker 1: Well, because they're led by human beings.
01:12:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:12:42
Speaker 1: Countries ain't even, like, their own... They are ran by human beings making terrible fucking decisions.
01:12:48
Speaker 3: And it doesn't make no sense to me because.
01:12:50
Speaker 6: Especially when it comes.
01:12:51
Speaker 3: To this Israel thing, because we all know that in Africa right now, there are dictators. There are black people doing bad things to black people. And there are people in America who would call it out. We say free Sudan. So we know that there's bullshit going on, even in the country of Africa. We would never be able to convince people that if we criticize those dictators doing human rights violations to us in Africa, that calling it out is racist against black people.
01:13:19
Speaker 5: Mm.
01:13:20
Speaker 3: Mm. Like what world would that ever exist that you would say like, oh, Boko Haram kidnapped the girls. He say, bring back our girls. And no one would ever be like, oh, it's anti-black because you're talking bad about other black people. Like that's not the, niggas are doing some bullshit. So I don't understand the whole PR that went behind making Israel be an avatar for all Jewish people.
01:13:47
Speaker 6: This shit is weird to me.
01:13:49
Speaker 3: But also, in regards to this specific story.
01:13:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, because, like, even when I go overseas, I don't take it personal or anti-U.S. when they say that the Orchida running our fucking country is dumb as fuck. Like, the things that.
01:14:01
Speaker 4: No, but they don't say that. They do blame... They put us under the umbrella.
01:14:06
Speaker 3: Because they are... Well, because they don't know.
01:14:08
Speaker 6: Right, right, right.
01:14:09
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
01:14:10
Speaker 1: Like, people's opinions on how the country is ran and the decisions that our president is making or Congress or... I don't take it fucking personal or think that they are anti-American because they are against what's happening in this country. So that's where I agree with Jah. I don't understand how us.
01:14:31
Speaker 1: And when I say us, the people that are free Palestine are anti-genocide or against what Israel is doing to this part of the world and to these people. I don't understand how the Jewish people are taking it as a personal attack because we are critiquing the actions that their country are doing against another.
01:14:48
Speaker 3: There's not a single country or politician in the world who should be above.
01:14:53
Speaker 9: Hello.
01:14:54
Speaker 6: Being criticized. Like, that shit is weird to me. Because to me, all that says to me, so you're.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: Telling me that you love Benjamin Netanyahu that bad that you like, ah, you can't say nothing about my daddy. Like, what are you? That shit is weird.
01:15:07
Speaker 1: It's weird.
01:15:08
Speaker 4: Or maybe they just want to stay clear of. Well, clearly they're not saying clearly because we know about it. Maybe the intent is to just, hey, we don't want no parts of that conversation completely. I'm just thinking about what an NFL owner would think.
01:15:20
Speaker 1: You're talking about from a corporate lens.
01:15:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, from an NFL owner probably. Listen, we just start winning over the last couple of years.
01:15:27
Speaker 1: But I think that's the problem, right? And we talked about it. The fact that someone at a college level is invested in politics, politics has gotten to a point where you're not caring about it in your 30s. Like when I was in my early 20s, me and my friends weren't sitting around talking about this.
01:15:44
Speaker 6: At all.
01:15:44
Speaker 1: Politics have now become pop culture globally, right?
01:15:48
Speaker 6: It's a bar.
01:15:50
Speaker 1: And that's where we're now holding conversations as adults. And yes, maybe this was a thing our parents talked about, but seeing someone who's 19, 20, in college, having this much wherewithal.
01:16:03
Speaker 3: No, NFL.
01:16:04
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. Texans.
01:16:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's the Houston, yeah, NFL.
01:16:08
Speaker 1: Oh, Houston Texans.
01:16:09
Speaker 3: But no, but to your point, he's still, he's aware, and he cares. I mean, it hit deep for him. It hit deep for him.
01:16:17
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like, damn, it took me probably, I voted for Obama, but was I this invested?
01:16:25
Speaker 3: I voted for Obama.
01:16:27
Speaker 1: Because he was black. But when we get to getting older in age now, us talking about the midterms, us talking about our local seats, it matters. I don't know.
01:16:42
Speaker 3: It's also crazy hypocrisy for the NFL from the standpoint of post Colin Kaepernick kneeling, They were going out of the way. I mean, I just Googled this shit because I knew it existed. But like, you can see right here, there's one, two, three, four, five. All of these NFL stadiums all have end racism.
01:17:00
Speaker 1: End racism.
01:17:01
Speaker 3: Choose love. All of these messages. So I understand that there's a policy about putting personal messages on your equipment or whatever in the NFL.
01:17:12
Speaker 6: It's essentially what they're blaming him for.
01:17:16
Speaker 3: But also... The NFL is saying, we will choose what causes- What.
01:17:22
Speaker 1: We get to politicize.
01:17:22
Speaker 6: What we get to politicize.
01:17:24
Speaker 3: We get to choose what we get to politicize. Even if you don't agree with it, a player, because there's clearly probably some players in the NFL who don't want to end racism.
01:17:32
Speaker 2: Right.
01:17:32
Speaker 6: There's probably some.
01:17:33
Speaker 3: Crack-ass crackers in the NFL who love nothing more than to hit a nigga, hang a nigga, kill a nigga. And they probably don't agree with this shit at all. But the NFL has decided we're going to end racism, so that's what we're going to put on it.
01:17:45
Speaker 6: And if you don't agree with it, tough titties.
01:17:48
Speaker 3: So with this brother, I'm like, what are y'all really saying? Yeah. Well, also, he's a Muslim, too. Let's not discredit that part.
01:17:54
Speaker 1: Well, and that's, again, I'm sure there's a silencing of that as well.
01:17:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's why I said that the owners of Pride, and I don't know, I'm just assuming, based on their behaviors, is that they're probably like, listen, we don't want to be in the part of the conversation.
01:18:06
Speaker 1: I hate this because I love when, like, I do. I love the conversations around these things taking place.
01:18:12
Speaker 3: Now, y'all.
01:18:14
Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
01:18:16
Speaker 1: We do have people out here saying some bullshit, too.
01:18:19
Speaker 6: Every day.
01:18:19
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
01:18:20
Speaker 1: So let's get into our last two topics, y'all.
01:18:21
Speaker 3: People say bullshit every day, B.
01:18:22
Speaker 1: Up first, this is a TikToker, not a celebrity, but the conversation was really interesting. And again, having all these conversations that we're having around consent, around sex, around shit, two people engaging in anything together, a TikToker went viral, a black woman, TikToker, went viral for saying that black men are extremely hard to love.
01:18:53
Speaker 3: I know.
01:18:54
Speaker 1: Check this out.
01:18:55
Speaker 6: Nobody wants to say this out loud.
01:18:58
Speaker 2: So nobody wants to say this out loud.
01:19:00
Speaker 6: Because it's stupid. That's why.
01:19:02
Speaker 2: I don't care if you guys bash me or shame me.
01:19:06
Speaker 3: Black men are extremely hard to love.
01:19:10
Speaker 1: Case closed.
01:19:11
Speaker 2: Now, actually, if we want to reopen that case, we can actually get into some things. Like, as a collective, Black men are extremely hard to love. They will make you perform to be chosen. Half of the time, they don't know what they want or what direction they're going in. A lot of them don't have any purpose. And these same men that don't have any purpose want you as a Black woman to perform femininity. And even when you are feminine, they always find a way to raise the goalposts.
01:19:40
Speaker 3: Whether they have daddy issues due to.
01:19:42
Speaker 2: Their mother literally emotionally neglecting them as a child, or they have daddy issues because they either didn't have a father or the father that they had didn't show them any form of healthy masculinity. Then in another aspect, you have black men who are consciously going around asking black women, what do they bring to the table? As if my uterus is not the table.
01:20:07
Speaker 1: That you come to i know to.
01:20:08
Speaker 2: Feast here to make dinner here to fellowship here black men have lost the plot and the art of how to love properly in a healthy way despite the environments that they've grown up in and the relational dynamics that they've.
01:20:26
Speaker 3: Been accustomed to.
01:20:29
Speaker 4: And she's Caribbean and she's from Brooklyn Jesus Christ.
01:20:32
Speaker 1: How do you know all this I see it I'm not wrong and I hear it I'm not wrong I'm not wrong how'd you come up for your own bro now.
01:20:41
Speaker 3: Oh man she read half the book you know I also.
01:20:44
Speaker 1: Love that you brought up her Caribbean-ness because that leads us to the next topic but I'm curious as when we talk about like yes I get the manosphere conversations but when you see this especially coming from a black woman how do you respond And what is your response to hearing this?
01:21:02
Speaker 3: Where's her grandmother?
01:21:03
Speaker 1: I mean, also probably crying over the grandpa that ain't treat her right. But I'm not going to leave.
01:21:10
Speaker 3: You know what you always say? Talk to the lady.
01:21:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:21:14
Speaker 3: Everybody get hurt. Yeah.
01:21:16
Speaker 4: We all go through relationships. I always leave by saying no one owns anyone. And in relationships, you just got to take it for what it is in the moment. And if you should have many moments, it's a blessing.
01:21:28
Speaker 9: Right?
01:21:28
Speaker 4: And even if you don't, it's a blessing because you have the journey to get to. Sweetheart, whoever hurt you, whatever situation you think, that does not... You're young. You have tons of life to live, tons of experience to have. Don't bring that shit on the internet. Talk to the lady. Talk to your mama. Talk to your auntie. Talk to your grandmama.
01:21:48
Speaker 3: Let them tell you what black men love supposed to be.
01:21:54
Speaker 8: I want.
01:21:55
Speaker 3: my people freed from the bondage of.
01:22:02
Speaker 6: Unnecessary generalities.
01:22:05
Speaker 3: Like some of the stuff that she was saying about men wanting women to perform femininity, what do you bring to the table? All of that kind of stuff. The uterus is her fucking... There was a lot of things that she said that I think are valid critiques of how some people behave. The problem is, why are you acting like it's black men who just do that? Because you don't think that it's a bunch... The whole red pill thing, the whole trad wife thing is about... Is led by white people. Is led by white people, and they want all of their white women to do all the shit she's talking about. If you go to some of these other cultures where, you know, right now they're preaching about....
01:22:49
Speaker 6: They're trying to instill fear.
01:22:50
Speaker 3: Of Muslims and Sharia law and all that kind of shit.
01:22:53
Speaker 9: Yep.
01:22:53
Speaker 3: They would put some of those same type of things on their women as well. So why the fuck are you making it as if black men are somehow holding the keys to this particular issue? It's just men in general who are holding key.
01:23:08
Speaker 6: But why do niggas... I don't understand that.
01:23:10
Speaker 3: Even in the comments section, I see black people are the only ones that hate on our own.
01:23:14
Speaker 6: You think all white people like each other?
01:23:16
Speaker 3: And they don't.
01:23:17
Speaker 6: You think all Asian people like each other?
01:23:18
Speaker 3: And they don't.
01:23:19
Speaker 6: So what are you talking about?
01:23:21
Speaker 3: I don't understand these dumbass talking points from these people. I hate that shit so bad because to me it just says, just say you don't like niggas. Just tell me I don't like my black skin. I don't like your black ass. I don't like nobody black. But don't try to make it as if... These issues are somehow siloed to the black community because everybody got some of these same problems across cultures and lands and languages and everything.
01:23:48
Speaker 6: So what the fuck are you talking about?
01:23:49
Speaker 4: I don't think it was that deep. I think she just threw the grenade and went back and said, yes.
01:23:53
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she hurt. She looks young.
01:23:57
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:23:58
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I also think she may be just being spoken to by the grifters online, right?
01:24:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:24:03
Speaker 1: So there's one specific one who actually was on the CultureCon stage, which surprised me because I think that he does more harm than good to our community.
01:24:15
Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
01:24:15
Speaker 1: And I say that he's known as like the fairy godfather or something like that. His name is Anwar White.
01:24:25
Speaker 8: Oh.
01:24:26
Speaker 1: He was on... our podcast at one point. And I didn't like a lot of what he said because to me, he is a black gay man married to a white man creating content specifically for black women, charging them as a coach to help them find love while also saying, Black men aren't the easiest to love, so you should probably try to date outside of your race. And he is telling Black women how to date heterosexual men. Make it make sense to me, but also I am not here for any Black man, Black gay man telling Black heterosexual women how to navigate heterosexual dating while also pushing the agenda that their love may be another color. Because to me, what the fuck are we doing?
01:25:28
Speaker 3: You never, he's never seen, like, those type of, people like that make me wonder, like, have you ever seen no true crime stories? Have you never seen The Pastor's Wife? Hello. Have you never seen The Death of a Pastor's Wife? Have you never seen, like, any of these stories of white men? Have you never seen Jeffrey Dahmer? Have you never seen John Wayne Gacy? You never seen no stories of no white men that fuck up women?
01:25:51
Speaker 1: Yet again, The villainization, if that's even a goddamn word.
01:25:55
Speaker 6: It is now, goddammit.
01:25:56
Speaker 1: Of being black.
01:25:57
Speaker 3: That's all it comes down to, just being black.
01:25:59
Speaker 1: Let's villainize black women for being too strong and too loud. Let's villainize black men for... having the trauma and maybe, you know, working through showing up as their best selves. But like, bro, we're human and we don't get it right. But to sit here and act like you right, them other races ain't dealing with this shit. Get the fuck out of here.
01:26:18
Speaker 3: I don't understand that shit. Like, what do you think is going on out here? So we're the only ones with problems.
01:26:23
Speaker 1: Well, well, here's the other problem within our community. Apparently we continue diaspora wars.
01:26:32
Speaker 6: Oh man.
01:26:33
Speaker 1: So y'all last topic of the pod. God damn it. Actor Da Vinci, who y'all may know from, I think, like, Power Book.
01:26:41
Speaker 6: BMF.
01:26:42
Speaker 3: BMF.
01:26:42
Speaker 1: There we go, BMF. Is receiving backlash for his comments around Black Americans. He went on Cam Newton's show, Freaky Friday, and this is what he had to say.
01:26:56
Speaker 6: I had, like, work ethic. I was determined.
01:26:58
Speaker 11: Like, I said, I could take care of myself, like, fully at, like, eight years old. But in America, to you guys, the way that culture have like moved.
01:27:08
Speaker 6: Majority of its citizens.
01:27:09
Speaker 11: It's like, you're just incompetent for a really long time.
01:27:13
Speaker 6: Do you think that that's.
01:27:16
Speaker 11: A country thing or a personal thing?
01:27:20
Speaker 3: I think this country promotes that.
01:27:22
Speaker 11: I think, because this country promotes, I don't.
01:27:26
Speaker 3: Think it promotes like.
01:27:29
Speaker 11: Like us like really like being able to think critically and being like hard workers being able to think outside the box right and usually people don't don't get me wrong other countries they have their things too but i just think like we're just more big like when you're in america you have such a lack of exposure on what's happening outside of the world because you don't kind of care about any other country but every other country is like i want to be american like i.
01:27:49
Speaker 1: Have now hold on i want to be american we have.
01:27:52
Speaker 11: The best football best basketball best rappers best actors best so it's just like they're like yo keep it up with us but it's like You don't need to keep up with the XFL.
01:28:01
Speaker 6: Can I disagree? Oh my goodness, please do.
01:28:05
Speaker 11: But I would say, but that's why, that's why I do think some producers probably just like, you know what, we want an overseas actor because they're probably going to be more focused.
01:28:15
Speaker 1: They're probably... Oh yeah.
01:28:17
Speaker 4: Well, I think the expanded conversation was how the outside of, how outsiders view us.
01:28:23
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, his.
01:28:26
Speaker 1: The overall sentiment was him sharing the differences between Caribbean and American culture. And he particularly went into describing work ethic and just saying that. and mind you, to be fair, these conversations aren't new. We talk about how African parents and households want their children to be doctors, lawyers, and they instill education differently than we have it here in the States. So it's weird because I don't think what he said was, Fully wrong, but of course people can't sit with nuance.
01:29:01
Speaker 3: And I like how he presented that.
01:29:03
Speaker 1: Well, he done lost 200,000 followers. And the internet is dragging him for filth. And this is what I don't understand either is there is a distinction and difference. And we're aware that when you grow up on an island or when you're raised by immigrant parents or the Caribbean, that the culture is different than ours. Black American culture. I'm actually surprised that this is getting.
01:29:26
Speaker 3: So much heat. I can tell you firsthand.
01:29:29
Speaker 1: You and I both?
01:29:30
Speaker 6: You can't.
01:29:31
Speaker 3: It's education always first. And you're striving. Doctor, lawyer, everything else but the creative shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:39
Speaker 1: Because they look at the creative shit. My dad didn't even like me bartending. He was like, let me know when you're going to get a real job.
01:29:45
Speaker 3: A real job. Like, he's really, yeah.
01:29:47
Speaker 1: Right.
01:29:47
Speaker 4: The creative shit is taking risks. And they're like, nah, man, over here is no risk.
01:29:53
Speaker 3: You can do a guaranteed thing. And you can contribute to society in a larger way. I get that. You know, it's raising the bar, if you will.
01:30:02
Speaker 6: Right.
01:30:03
Speaker 4: I don't think nothing's wrong. He didn't say none of that shit, in my opinion, in a harmful way. I think it should open more discussion.
01:30:10
Speaker 6: Not, oh, we're going to unfollow him.
01:30:12
Speaker 3: And that's the fake outrage I hate with the internet.
01:30:14
Speaker 1: I actually want to give y'all some of the top two comments to me that I saw. So there is someone that said incompetent because we were actually being children at eight years old. Sorry if my parents wanted me to be a kid while they were the adults. What adult actually brags about having to grow up so fast? That's actually traumatic as fuck. But OK, Da Vinci. And the next one. And this is why where people are getting mad. Calling the descendants of enslaved people incompetent while ignoring the historical conditions. that shape the very society that they inherited is an incompetence and analysis in itself. You can't critique the outcome while benefiting from the history that produced the conditions.
01:30:52
Speaker 4: This is one of those, watch the whole shit, because it's too much to unpack in that little clip.
01:30:57
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay. Not you, I'm saying everybody who's commenting.
01:31:00
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: We can do that shit.
01:31:02
Speaker 1: Because here's another thing. Do you believe, and this is maybe the sentiment, that people specifically, black people from other countries... think that they're better than black Americans.
01:31:14
Speaker 3: I think some, I mean, the diaspora war is like based on that, right? Like some people have espoused those type of opinions about black Americans a lot since the diaspora war started about, well, over here, we don't do that. And over here, this is what y'all, this is all y'all care about and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. I just wonder, like, I don't know. When people say stuff like that, though, it makes me wonder, like, DaVinci has acted on shows with.
01:31:43
Speaker 6: Oscar award winning actresses.
01:31:45
Speaker 9: Yep.
01:31:46
Speaker 3: With talented people who work hard. So are you saying that you don't know no black people that work hard?
01:31:51
Speaker 1: That work hard.
01:31:52
Speaker 3: Because I only know black people who get up every day and whatever they do, whether they're podcasters, whether they're writers, whether they work at a store. They're waking up in the morning busting their ass to do the work that they have chosen to do. to take care of their families, take care of themselves, to help other people, to make society better. I don't, I'm not saying that there aren't bums. We always know there's bums, but like, what is, again, back to the generalization, like what is this generalization of you think everybody's a bum?
01:32:20
Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's the thing that for whatever reason, again, people lack the ability to dig into the nuance of it, right? I think that, you know how like, There's certain words that clearly, even that we can call each other, but can't nobody else call it. I think even him expressing just this sentiment, it's weird because a lot of us have been saying, work ethic has dropped. Gen Z motherfuckers don't want to work. Niggas want to not come into work on time.
01:32:51
Speaker 3: Paid internships.
01:32:53
Speaker 1: And so for me, hearing people get so upset about him saying this, as if we as a society, generationally, haven't been discussing recognizing that there is a lack of competence. And we talk about it from AI. We talk about it from entitlement. We talk about it from a lens that People now want to get paid a full thing without even knowing what the fuck they're doing. They're doing the bare minimum. Right. We constantly are having these conversations. And because this man is a Haitian American, is that why, like, is it the messenger that's making you upset? Because when we have these conversations as a collective, we're actually saying the same things he's saying. And what's also crazy, though, and I will say, the only thing that he does get wrong in this, because of socioeconomic oppression and what we've had to deal with, a lot of Black Americans... have had to start working at an early age.
01:33:45
Speaker 3: Didn't get to just be a kid.
01:33:46
Speaker 1: So even seeing some people be like, sorry we got to be a kid, that's privilege coming from you. Because a lot of us who grew up in single-parent households, in households where we had multiple siblings, oh, baby, we were learning how to cook early.
01:34:02
Speaker 3: Especially in the South.
01:34:03
Speaker 1: As soon as I could get a job, especially in the South, as soon as I was legal age to get a job, I was working at the Quiznos at 14, 15 years old. Then when the mall could hire me, I was there. A lot of my friends, a lot of us had to work early and we did do it. So maybe this is more of a, and I don't know his age, maybe this is more of a Gen Z observation because maybe us millennials, we've been fighting for our life. But we've been working for a very long time. So this idea that... He's doing it from this lens. I think it's actually more of a generational lens and not a Haitian American, Black American lens.
01:34:38
Speaker 6: It could be that.
01:34:39
Speaker 3: But I think that what you just said, I think to me is like the important point. If you're going to do that kind of generalization and some of those commenters are saying like. The work ethic that you had to develop at a young age is not because like, I'm eight years old and I'm ready to go to the world. Niggas are trying to survive. That's not about like, yes, that can build a certain work ethic that can carry you into your older years. But like, that's not, that's a trauma response. trying to live that's not some oh i'm just the strongest most most driven most ready to go entrepreneurial person in the world at nine and i.
01:35:17
Speaker 1: Think that that's where he fucked up the incompetence of americans as a whole should be leaned to technology the lack of resources the defunding of fucking education the things that are really taking place in this country that are having the impact on why so many people are da-dun-da-duns. But to make it like a Black American thing, that was kind of wrong. But I don't hate what he said. I hate that, again, there was a generalization of Black people as if, the entire country isn't incompetent now.
01:35:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, talk about.
01:35:51
Speaker 1: Again, yeah, it's like.
01:35:54
Speaker 3: You can talk about... No shade to y'all.
01:35:55
Speaker 1: Even saying no shade to y'all is crazy.
01:35:57
Speaker 6: You can talk about these things.
01:35:59
Speaker 1: Like, here's the thing.
01:36:00
Speaker 3: No shade to y'all. I wish people would be able to talk about things without hyperbole or generalization. Because there's valid points that you can make inside. If you want to have that conversation, you can have that conversation. But people can't... The generalization is whooping people's ass. They can't just talk about things as a single issue or in a vacuum. They have to make it about everything. It's what everybody's doing. And I'm just like, bro, I don't know what to tell you. That shit is just not going to hold up when you say certain things about a group of people who are proud of themselves. Facts. So I don't know. I would love for him to come on the show.
01:36:43
Speaker 1: Me too, he lives in Atlanta. We got to reach out. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I mean, I ain't going to hold you. His PR probably about to lock his ass down.
01:36:50
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36:51
Speaker 1: Like, he probably not going to be able to, like.
01:36:56
Speaker 3: Man, fuck that shit.
01:36:56
Speaker 6: You know the funny part?
01:36:58
Speaker 4: Once you get on a platform and you start, you know, being free-flowing about shit, that's it.
01:37:03
Speaker 3: You're already out there.
01:37:04
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I do want to say, and I want to actually have Dominique Morgan on because she's been going in.
01:37:11
Speaker 3: The last couple.
01:37:12
Speaker 1: Days on him. She went all the way back to 2013 and was watching interviews. Or 2016. But she watched about six of them. She read articles. She transcribed it. She posted it to her sub stack. And she has a strong disliker affinity to what he's had to say.
01:37:33
Speaker 3: Well, one of the funny things that came out of this is that there's a clip of Him on set with Taraji P.
01:37:42
Speaker 6: Henson. And Taraji is roasting that nigga.
01:37:48
Speaker 3: And what she's saying in front of everybody is like, your lines sound rehearsed. You sound stiff. You sound like you're not, not that you're not prepared, but you don't sound, you sound like you are a robot. Kind of. And she's laughing about it. And he's like, damn, why you got to say all that? But it's like, maybe take your own advice then. Like, what is your work ethic? How prepared are you to, when you show up on set, how prepared are you? Because apparently the Oscar winning actress is looking at your performance and saying, mm, mm.
01:38:25
Speaker 6: So you can work harder.
01:38:26
Speaker 3: And you can probably take notes too.
01:38:28
Speaker 6: And you can probably take notes from what you're saying. Respectfully.
01:38:31
Speaker 3: But you can probably take some notes for what she's saying. But someone posted that clip in a response to what he was saying. And I found that to be funny of like, oh, so what is your work ethic? What are you doing when you go home with these lines and to do your job the best way that.
01:38:45
Speaker 6: You can do it?
01:38:45
Speaker 3: Who knows? Da Vinci. Da Vinci. Come on down. Let's have a convo.
01:38:49
Speaker 6: Let's talk about it, though. It could be an interesting conversation.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: Hey, I told y'all I wanted to have a whole bunch of people on here that I disagree with.
01:38:54
Speaker 3: We could eat some black rice.
01:38:55
Speaker 1: We could find some more people I disagree with.
01:38:59
Speaker 3: All right, y'all.
01:39:00
Speaker 1: We made it to the end.
01:39:01
Speaker 3: We are.
01:39:01
Speaker 1: We did it.
01:39:02
Speaker 3: We mobbed.
01:39:02
Speaker 6: We did it. Mobbing through New York.
01:39:04
Speaker 3: Our first NYC episode as a unit. New York. It's been up since 4 a.m.
01:39:11
Speaker 1: Listen, y'all will get some episodes. We got some really dope guests that'll be coming on the pod through the end of the year.
01:39:16
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:39:17
Speaker 1: We got Jason that we finally gonna get to. have a foursome with in person.
01:39:21
Speaker 3: Oh, wow. That sounds like non-consent.
01:39:25
Speaker 6: Three dicks and one chick?
01:39:27
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going after y'all, though. Oh, my God.
01:39:33
Speaker 1: I'm not playing with y'all. Anyways, before we get out of here, I wanted to leave y'all with some things to look up because, again... The more you know.
01:39:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:39:43
Speaker 1: So Kendall Francis, that's the LSU student that has spoken out about how her university failed her with her sexual.
01:39:52
Speaker 3: Assault as well.
01:39:52
Speaker 6: Another fucked up case.
01:39:54
Speaker 1: Another fucked up case, but also just something else to compare it to. And then there was a documentary directed by Kirby Dick and produced by Amy Zierig that released in 2015 called The Hunting Ground. And the full-length film investigates the epidemic of sexual assault on U.S. college campuses. So it tracks student survivors, including anti-rape activists Annie E. Clark and Andrea Pino from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill as they battle administrative cover-ups, institutional pushback, and the complex Title VI reporting processes. It is available to stream on Netflix. So again, while informing yourself, And holding space for these victims and having the conversations to actually affect and change and shake up this goddamn rape culture of a goddamn system that we live in and exist in. These are the types of documentaries and things that you should kind of be up to date on that you watch. And hopefully you're able to continue having these conversations in your group chats.
01:41:01
Speaker 3: I like the new segment.
01:41:02
Speaker 1: Which one?
01:41:04
Speaker 3: Another effed up case. Listen. Oh, yeah. I think that's a new creation right there.
01:41:09
Speaker 1: Maybe go ahead and just let y'all know there's more of these out here.
01:41:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:41:12
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