Selective Ignorance: Ep. 70 | Court Of Public Opinion Strikes Again

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned, black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy. Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Hey guys, before we start this week's episode, make sure you tap in by hitting that subscribe button, that plus sign button. Wherever you tune into this podcast, whether it's on YouTube or wherever you listen to your podcast, make sure sure you subscribe and rate us five stars only. Okay, don't be selectively ignorant with that welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host, Mandy B and boy do we have a lot on the docket to day. We are starting off with some ignorant takes from our boy job. We are correcting our IVF mix up. I am talking about ignorance around the World Cup. And then we are doing a brief update on or recap on the b ET Awards that took place on Sunday night. This is not a sports podcast, but we are talking about Terry and Arnold, the case that has sent the Detroit Lions cornerback to jail. Do we blame his friends? Do we blame his poor decision making? What is to blame?
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Speaker 2: Then?
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Speaker 1: And this is America. We are talking the Chase exec who lost her job for emptying a Nick's trash can Should people be able to lose their jobs over things that they do outside of work hours? Our thoughts? Then the Big Tigger domestic abuse case. Now we do want to add a trigger warning here because we are of course talking about domestic violence. However, the Internet does not appear to be viewing Big Tigger's wife as a victim. And is it because she has a passed herself? Are you able to be a victim when there are charges and lack of evidence against you and things that you've done in your past. Then in celebrities say the darnest things, y'all, Oprah winfy Oprah, oprah Winfree baby. Recall the story about Whitney Houston falling off of her stage and this has sent the Internet into a storm, pretty much discussing whether or not you should be able to speak ill of the dead. Then the last conversation, Lizzo is complaining about lack of support from label amid her abysmal record sales. Now, is this a story about where the music industry currently is or are we just seeing the end of the bossie body positivity movement. Maybe we're getting into a lot today. Please buckle up, and if you are easily offended, bitch, you've come to the right spot. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance again. I'm your host BDV, joined by my super producess. Y'all, we got journalism Jason joining us, not from Jersey but at the Hot ninety seventh studios up in the NYC.
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Speaker 3: What's such Jason? How are you say headquarters? But this is a side room. I couldn't be in the main headquarters.
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Speaker 2: This time for y'all.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It's giving cider a bed, give it close, trying.
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Speaker 4: To isolate yourself.
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Speaker 2: From the madness.
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Speaker 3: It's busycause it's because the holidays are coming up and like you know, mix sure weekends, so all the DJs are in and out of the DJ bootes, so I can't I can't really get up in there.
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Speaker 4: Oh that is right, Like the actual do.
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Speaker 1: You have family plans for the Fourth of July this weekend?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the beach. I'm gonna go to the beach.
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Speaker 3: Do Puerto Rican things at the beach, get my bad Bunny, playing my nutcrackers, all.
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Speaker 1: That it's given. You're going to Orchard.
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Speaker 2: Then, yeah, rockaway we do.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, Well, I just know the Puerto Rican's bad take over Orchard Beach.
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Speaker 2: Bad, Okay that they do that they do.
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Speaker 1: I have never seen all on. Orchard Beach is the place where I saw the biggest Puerto Rican flags in my life. It's like the size of a whole building. I didn't even know they made flags that big until I went to Orchard Beach.
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Speaker 5: Is it near where Puerto Ricans live, Like is it just.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy like New York beaches and New Jersey beaches or so like the New Jersey beaches, they checked your ship, so you can't have drinks right and you have to pay, oh civilized saying your hair like not in the broken Serena Carpenter right right to the beach in New York, it's like crackers. Everybody has their drinks, everybody's playing music, gigantic flags, like two different temperature checks.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you can get in the water in Jersey in New York not so like you want to come out with six tos.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say I wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 4: You ever heard of the legend that is lit Marina. I've heard a lot of Marina. Yes, I've heard people talk about what your beach is lit Marina without the lot Marina.
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Speaker 1: I heard the Breaka back this summer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're doing it fourth of July weekend. They're doing it for like one it's like one day. It's like a one day off party joint.
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Speaker 4: But they did in the interim they had another party called k Right the same people which are the same people, right right? Got it? Got it?
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Speaker 1: You just want to sit here and let people know, you know a little espanyo talk.
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Speaker 4: About maybe a little you know, I might have some you know, I.
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Speaker 1: See it in the bun you have.
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Speaker 3: Just like gentrified Now it's like all nice. It's called like something on the Hudson.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I got to go to New York.
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Speaker 1: Being New York.
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Speaker 4: Good start, y'all.
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Speaker 1: We got the o g pot legend. A king to my right? You ready, I think I am, y'all a king?
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Speaker 4: Have you doing?
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Speaker 1: Old people ship? A king? A king hit me on the Sunday tip and was like trying to join me at the farmer's market. He was like, yo, they take the skin off of the pineapple for you. We was in there doing old people ship, getting flats in the fish section like it was like it was real cute, real cute, real old.
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Speaker 5: She might give me the backstory because I talk about, you know, my excursions to the farmer's market.
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Speaker 4: Right, you won't tell me when you so I was like, yeah, I'm gonna pull up what upright, let's go. But and I did.
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Speaker 1: It was cool, by the way, I say the same thing to Yomi. Yomi goes to another farmer's market that I've never been to, and y'all know I'm Asian. Go to your life is heard over there.
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Speaker 4: In New York to.
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Speaker 1: First off, y'all know I am multi racial. And then y'all know we got the king of headlines in the building, Jason Jolly.
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Speaker 4: Pod blessing all the app niggas, What up, what up? What up? What up? What up?
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to hear your ignorant take because you hit that in the group chat like I got.
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Speaker 4: With affirmation, because because we got conviction.
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Speaker 6: I don't know, because I saw something that I've had patients with for long enough at the end of last week, and now my patience is yeah, my patience is upright, So now we're going to be different about it.
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Speaker 1: Just okay, Well, before we get to your ignorance. By the way, y'all, if things get a little rowdy, all of us except for Jason, how to shout out tequila, Okay, And it's because these Nicholas was late.
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Speaker 4: That's that's why tequila.
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Speaker 6: You see how the niggas twisted narratives, That's why we're having this OQUI.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to our ignorant takes John. I do want to make a correction. There was a lot of people in the comments about misinformation that was discussed on last week's pod we talked about the IVA mix up between the two couples in Orlando. We do want it to be made clear that before they did the genetic testing of the baby, they first just saw visual signs that the baby was not Caucasian, and so there were headlines that did say that the baby was black or non white. So there were headlines unfortunately that did, you know, get us to believe that the baby was black. Of course, after genetic testing, the baby was one hundred percent South Asian. Beyond that, there were other people who were missing, I mean saying that the other parents did not want the baby. That is also not true.
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Speaker 4: The yeah where that came from.
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Speaker 1: The Asian couple that were actual biological parents to the embryo did say they would have liked to raise the child, but because of legal things, there's just not enough laws that protect you know, IVF mixed up like this.
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Speaker 4: The baby was Asian, was Asian South Asia, So here we go.
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Speaker 5: So the issue was that the baby wasn't black, So what if the baby was Asiatic?
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Speaker 1: What the fuck is the Asiatic Asian?
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Speaker 4: Right? Original? Man, here we go.
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Speaker 2: You take out one or the if you take out one a tiger like.
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Speaker 4: Then yeah they're boomed. You have yeah, right, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean or to be fair, I mean being in Asia, yes they are very fair skin. But you have like if you go to like I mean clearly like India, Malayia.
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Speaker 6: Yeah right, we speaking closest to the equator. It's hot down there, and and you're gonna be here, you're gonna be dark.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well they're brown according to the ign.
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Speaker 5: Niggas all over. That's what we were talking about. This niggas in this whole world. You could go to Indonesia, you see niggas and not niggas. That's like, oh they went there, that grew out the soil here.
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Speaker 4: There, Oh I grew out the soil.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Now, so I would say that was an Asiatic baby.
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Speaker 5: But when I just looking at the picture the baby, I didn't zoom in on the picture.
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Speaker 6: I didn't see like the baby's hair nothing. I just saw a black baby. I see a baby that's type dark. I'm thinking of baby's black.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: It could have been a black Dominican baby. It could have been a black Puerto Rican baby. I don't know, but it was a little black baby.
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Speaker 1: Well, everybody in the comments was like, baby, no black, and they was upset that we were having the conversation about this baby being.
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Speaker 5: The two articles that I read initially about that story said nothing about South Asia at all. Well, that's so when we report from the sources that we have access to, right, So there was no error there. It's just that in the floor information and it happens. It's still developing, so that's we're able to say, hey, you know what course correction kind of and.
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Speaker 4: Here we are.
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Speaker 1: I just want to start to start being fake outraged.
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Speaker 4: Us.
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Speaker 2: Where's the white come from in Tiger Woods?
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Speaker 1: You know that?
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Speaker 4: Where's dad?
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Speaker 2: Where's the white in the cobblin Asian? Because his mom is Asian? His dad is black?
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Speaker 4: What is the white?
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Speaker 1: Wait? They say that because he.
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Speaker 2: Says he's Comblinadian, Asian and Asian.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I'm not sure, but maybe maybe one of his parents, maybe one of them is a.
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Speaker 4: Part white identify that's what the white is. The mom is the mom I was grand his grandmother. White baby, I don't know. I don't. That's a good question. I thought about that. You just said that. I was just like, get in white.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and white kids.
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Speaker 6: The white liquor that he drinking that keeps from swerving off the road, is okay?
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Speaker 5: That they got so dark drinking.
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Speaker 4: Man, you want from me? All right?
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Speaker 1: Well, y'all, let's get to your ignorant take.
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Speaker 4: Let's get right to it, all right.
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Speaker 6: So I've long said that one of society's ills is that we have practiced unprotected patriarchy for a long time.
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Speaker 4: Protected for a long time, but to that point, we all are.
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Speaker 6: Open to catching STD socially transmitted diseases because of this patriarch.
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Speaker 4: You did that, nigga, so we trademarked it right after the show. So I don't even sorry. I told you don't do that. Don't make money.
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Speaker 6: But we've been we've been raw dogging, We've been fucking women over in terrible ways, all right, And so we none of us are immune to misogyny. That's men and women, and it's something that we've all had had to unlearn.
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Speaker 4: We try to practice. I try to respect people. You know. I grew up in the middle.
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Speaker 6: Class household with two parents with a pH d father and a would alone degree.
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Speaker 4: You know, so I was taught to respect people.
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Speaker 6: But but I saw something this weekend that made me question whether or not my working on my misogyny and other patriarchal things we've learned through society is worth it. So if Jay Rock, could you please, could you please drop my drop my music real quick?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's think it's real quick.
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Speaker 7: We have our own problems. Tps for both countries extended multiple times. And look, this has been going on for over a dozen years. Go home, get out. We know our countries better than yours. That's because we filled it with our work, ethic and our culture and our values. You being here only dilutes it for us, those who built it and live it. And half of you people, more than half you won't assimilate. We don't want you, We don't care if you're offended. Get out, go home, Go back to fucking Haiti.
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Speaker 6: Now what you just heard was Megan Kelly going on a rant celebrating the Supreme Court decision to give Trump to allow Trump to revoke the temporary protect the status of Haitian immigrants in America. Roughly three hundred and fifty thousand is the number that they put out there of Haitian immigrants who are in this country who are under temporary protected status. And I'm not gonna lie. After I watched that clip, I called Megan Kelly all kind of bitches, crack of bitches and puss ass bitches and funky ass bitches, and too Short has to give me the favorite now because it is no longer his how many bitches I call Megan Kelly? And what I realize is that, yeah, dog face bitches, sunken face bitches, all kind of bitches. And what I realized is that I think that my misogyny stops with white women. I think that's all I have for these wretched white holes now is misogynist. I don't have no talking, I don't have no empathy, I don't have no coom bay y'all for these bitches, for these bitches like the audacity of this lady. Now, I've watched Megan Kelly do a lot of foul shit. I've watched her attack my good sister Jamel Hill. I've watched her split the hairs on pedophilia about whether a five year old or fifteen year old is really pedophilia, and what the difference is in that I watched her say wild shit about Trayvon Martin. I watched her say wild shit about all kinds of people. And I'm not Haitian, but I have good Haitian.
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Speaker 4: People in my life.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, shout out to tadd Saint Louis, a good mutual friend of ours. Absolutely shout out the skyya Florid style, HBCU, shout out to the Podfathers.
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Speaker 4: Shout out so that.
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Speaker 6: One of the reasons that all of us is sitting up here is because of a good Haitian man named Reggieosa combat Jack. Combat Jack is a Haitian man, proud Haitian man, who brought a lot of opportunity to a lot of us.
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Speaker 4: If you go back to the eighteen hundreds.
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Speaker 6: The Haitians that arrived here in the States in Virginia after the Haitian Revolution, after they fought for their freedom, were also instrumental in helping black people establish Freemason lodgis so that we can help communicate with each other without under guise of yeah being away from the appearing eyes of white people, to help us get off some of our revolutionaries ship.
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Speaker 5: So Haitian people are important to black people. Haitian people are important to America. So I don't know what the fuck this bitch is talking about. But I'm done with all of that.
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Speaker 4: I'm done with all of that.
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Speaker 6: I think about all the regged white bitches that we've seen over the past. We've seen maternal instinct that this wretched bitch. We've seen the wretched bitch that shot the woman through the door in Florida, calling the little kids niggers and all that kind of shit.
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Speaker 4: So we're done with that. We're done with all of that.
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Speaker 6: So there's not gonna be you know, we're always gonna speak highly of black women, even if we have to critique, you know, we.
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Speaker 4: Don't have to be ugly about it.
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Speaker 6: But I don't have any more patience for these wretched white holes.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. And that's why when people like try to tie in the label of a feminist with me, bro, I don't agree with all women and their stances.
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Speaker 8: Yea.
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Speaker 1: And when it comes to the intersectionality of feminism, a lot of the times we separate ourselves. When I say we black women separate ourselves from white women all the time because it doesn't align. And to see this it's disgusting. I love also that that was your rant, because I actually want to piggyback on of your rants. Have had it, speaking of Haiti, have at it, speaking of Haiti. So I had the opportunity to go to my first World Cup game.
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Speaker 4: Did I was jealous of that too.
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Speaker 1: Listens like it was a good ass time. But it was a good ass time, and we started a bet that we didn't get to complete because it was like a game that didn't match most football games. So hear me out. So I attend the Haiti versus Morocco match where within like the first I don't know, ten to fifteen minutes, Haiti scores two points. Mind you, for anyone who is unfamiliar with this, Haiti has not scored in the World Match in over fifty years. Yes, so this is a massive thing, mind you. Haiti is also already disqualified from advancing by the time we get to this match, so they could have scored one hundred Morocco still would have advanced. Right. So I post in my Morocco jerseyness and all the things on social media, and this is where I was met with a lot of the ignorance of the American people. First off, so many of my followers were upset at me for rooting for Morocco and not Haiti because of blackness. Let me dig into that, well, let me dig into that further. So, as I'm reading these comments, I'm like, what the fuck? And of course, because I attend to match, I hashtag it, my algorithm, of course is telling me all about the history of all the things. Right, So Haiti is flooded on my feed in my algorithm, and so is Morocco. And so I would like to let you guys know, for those of you who are unaware, because this is what I'm hearing. So let's talk about how Americans act when you tell them Moroccans are African. You say I'm a Moroccan or you say you're rooting for Morocco, and they're like, but you don't look African. And basically what I saw is that the consensus is that Moroccans are Middle Eastern. They are not. Yes, they speak African, but they are literally on the continents of Africa. Correct, And so as I'm sitting here, they don't speak Arabic, yes, and so, but regardless of the language, if you look at the oh no, my bad I'm at Arabic. But if you look at and sorry, y'all, I was corrected because I don't know if y'all heard on me. They speak Arabic. However, if you look at all of the African countries, all of the countries on the continents of Africa, all of them speak different languages. Correct, So like, there's no one language that ties you to being African either. And African is also just this word that is literally an entire continent made up of so many different countries. And so anyways, I just say all of that to say for all of you ignorant as non geographical ass motherfuckers in my comments acting is though I'm rooting for a colonizer of some sort. Morocco is literally on the continent of Africa, and so me rooting for any team Haiti Morocco. Baby, I'm rooting for everyone black. Mind you, my sister her daddy got deported back to Haiti, so I wasn't gonna be mad if Haiti won either. I was just enjoying my first match, and sorry, I couldn't split the jersey in house.
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Speaker 5: Man, he can't have fun, man, he's a Nick fan. Nowall fan, now go football and then she and then she wear the Okay see jersey last week.
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Speaker 1: I was in Oklaho.
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Speaker 4: She is, she's sports fluid.
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Speaker 1: Baby, I'm Drake. No, No, you know how Drake me and him got the biracial thing going. I'm gonna just root for everybody when I got people on the team, whatever city I'm in. You know, you know he might be rooting for the Rockets because he like Houston. He liked it. I don't know, you ready, when we go, depending on the team they play, to the Hawks games.
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Speaker 4: I'll be rooting for the Hawks. Now.
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Speaker 1: Actually you're lying right now said we have video of you're rooting for the hot Well was because there's video?
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Speaker 4: Why and why did I do that? I'm always thinking about the Knicks.
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Speaker 5: That's all gay position.
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Speaker 4: The rabbit hole goes.
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Speaker 1: No, but Jason, I mean I love that your your rant tied into mine because like.
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Speaker 4: What's more impact there? Though? What do you mean with his ship? But no, no, no, that was crazy. She's I mean I want to.
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Speaker 1: Say too if I'm not mistaken, and maybe we can talk about this next week outside of the Supreme Court passing this and the way that they're talking about kicking people out of the country during the World Cup match. It's also been interested because we are allegedly right now accepting refugees from South Africa. The Afrikaans Oh my god, hold on, which made me upset because I watched this cooking show on Netflix and the way that she made sure to pronounce Afrikaan like that to distinguish herself away from being Afrikaan. It's really interesting now seeing also white people at oblivious to the type of people that are in South Africa because they're allowing them in. So I'll probably play this next week or on a bonus. But there was a back and forth where this white lady was like, see, we're not racist, We're letting Africans into the country. So we're letting South South Africa.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw you saw it.
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Speaker 6: This whole week is because they're There's another I think his name is Brian Emmer, Bruce Emery. He's some kind of he's a state rep in Minnesota. He had another rank this weekend about Haitians and not same thing, some of the same talking points that making Kelly, Hey, they don't assimilate, they don't want to come here, they want to like nobody has to assimilate. That's not part of the the immigration process. You don't have to come here in Hile America. You don't have to come here and learn a national anthem. All you gotta do is come here and pay taxes. Yep, there's no other requirements. There's no requirement to love this country. There's no requirement to kiss the ass of the forefathers or none of that shit.
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Speaker 4: All you gotta do is obey the law and pay your taxes.
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Speaker 6: So all the other shit they try to kick about, Basically, they're saying, why won't you be more white if you come here? Why want you adopt this white culture? If you come to America from somewhere and guess what we.
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Speaker 1: See in today working for the Cubans in Florida, babes just sending you back to your country. All of these like especially the the white passing Latinos, they're seeing how much that axtimity whiteness. They don't say fag.
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Speaker 5: Bad, But do you think that they're leaning into the history, the complex history between Haiti and Americas as.
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Speaker 4: A release of the revolution.
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Speaker 5: It could they hold because I always have the mindset that white people, you know, they understand history, even when it's not in their favor, and they hold on to that ship one hundred percent, right, And they'll hold on and hold on and they'll do things today as as a you pertains to being petty to something that happened one hundred years ago. I still hold on because they were in the unfavorable position back well, we.
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Speaker 6: Talked about what's what's my man's name? What's the white man we're talking about? We talked about a few episodes ago that was part of project twenty twenty five studied African History.
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Speaker 4: And the founder. Yeah, I don't know why I'm blanking to do his name right now, but.
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Speaker 3: Like twenty five he's a project founder, Yeah, PhD studies and African study.
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Speaker 4: African Studies.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why I'm playing on his white man's name. We talked on a couple of weeks ago. But like to your point, though, yeah, they remember all of that ship.
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Speaker 6: So like, are y'all is trump pressing the gas on Haitians because they remember how influential Haitians were in the revolution of Black people?
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Speaker 4: Do they not want us to be clicked up?
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Speaker 6: Do they not want us to to build that momentum and have that energy and that camaraderie amongst each other.
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Speaker 4: Like what is it about Haiti that's pressing them so bad?
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of countries that have way more immigrants that come here than people from Haiti. Like it's not even in the top ten of countries who of people who come to America. So what are y'alls pressed about these people?
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Speaker 4: For? What threat do they pose to you?
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Speaker 2: And wants to come out? They're smart. Unprotected Patriotism is actually a.
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Speaker 3: Really good phrase, right because they're they're they're literally using like white passing Cubans and certain people for their vote, and then the next day they're like, yo, get out of here, right, And it's it's so funny because it's like they're the ones who are also writing the history books.
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Speaker 2: So it's like the thing that they're like hedging to your race. They're using the threat.
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Speaker 3: Of that to scare people off with it, right, Like even with the Megan Kelly thing, Like she's the same person who said Santa Claus is white, Like you probably saw that Clippers white.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Fighting School is just white.
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Speaker 3: Right, like and with the certainty that she said it was right. But it's because they're also like they're there it's like the care and the stick, but they're doing it with history and your vote and playing in our face with it.
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Speaker 5: So that's why it's very important for you know, us collectively to mash the gas the same way and teach the babies.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 5: And when I say babies, were all babies in the sense because we have elders, right, But as a community, we need to continue to uplift and educate and just have a collective conscious about these people don't stop.
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Speaker 4: Yeah right, they don't.
00:27:43
Speaker 5: And these people weren't here eighty years ago, but they're here because they didn't. They didn't stop studying either, and they always study you. You you, they always study us, right, And that's why we have a the book we just ref whatever that the blueprint that we just reference in the The guy who founded it studied African American.
00:28:03
Speaker 4: Of course, say you hear how she was talking.
00:28:06
Speaker 6: She was like, oh, this country is like this because of us, because of what we built.
00:28:10
Speaker 4: She wasn't she's wrong, but she wasn't here. You didn't build it.
00:28:14
Speaker 5: But she speaking from a lens that they took and built. Yep, they took and built it. Wasn't like you just decrepit land they took and then they built it in their vision how they wanted to be right.
00:28:27
Speaker 4: But she thinks she gets to lay claim to that. Of course she does.
00:28:30
Speaker 6: She thinks that that's part of her. She thinks that she is one of the great.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: American And the thing about the thing about being American, if you say, but no American, and I say, and I say that in it says to say, when you say something enough, you start to believe it. And the way that we were taught that this is the best country in the world and to see that literally the only thing these foreigners are coming over here liking is rich. Dressing is fucking embarrassing, Like Crafton made tsa size goddamn branch to let people take it away. But to me seeing even the World Cup players talk about having to travel over borders to come and practice and play these games, talking about like this country as as as kind of vile like like why are we here? Why was this not figured out before we got here? And so to me, again, I think that her saying that a lot of white people saying that makes them believe it to be true, because that's what we As long as we keep saying it, we're gonna make it true. And what we unfortunately have right now is an administration who's literally willing to rewrite history and stop education on certain things. So it is our responsibility for having these conversations on podcasts, for teaching the youth, for going beyond what they're telling us in these books, and you.
00:29:50
Speaker 5: Know, discussion, debate with those who are willing to participate. Hellouse, that's also key too.
00:29:56
Speaker 1: And be open to being wrong.
00:29:58
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't think they want to be wrong.
00:30:00
Speaker 1: Bro, be open to being wrong. We none of us know everything.
00:30:03
Speaker 6: It means too much of them to for it to be open to be wrong. It means too much of them. It's not even, it's not even. They're not arguing facts. They're arguing like their existence. It's an existential threat to them for us to be saying any of the ship that we're saying right now.
00:30:19
Speaker 4: So it's like, and that's so to them.
00:30:21
Speaker 6: It's like, you'll never get that kind of good faith out of them because that's not what we're arguing two different things.
00:30:28
Speaker 4: We're arguing too different things.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: I get that well, Jason lead us into this is not a sports podcast, but.
00:30:37
Speaker 4: It's over trying to clean your timeline, y'all won't go nowhere. What's in the w n B the world right now over.
00:30:54
Speaker 5: They would fake be enamored by the World Cup because they don't want to see the nickson.
00:30:58
Speaker 4: The timeline you won't get over. It's like COVID, all right.
00:31:02
Speaker 2: And then so I'm gonna tee this up. A quick note for y'all.
00:31:06
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blame like the lateness is probably more my fault, but my computer probably is not going to make it past like this segment every thirty minutes in, so my shit dies out.
00:31:14
Speaker 4: That's what happened. I'm blaming mirror. So this is not a.
00:31:21
Speaker 3: Sports podcast, but there's some interesting sports activities that are happening tangentially.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: So right, So, several people have been arrested.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: In connection with an alleged arm robbery and kidnapping in Tampa, and the case has been publicly linked to the Detroit Lions cornerback Terian Arnold. He plays football, but this is kind of like a basketball two men that was happening here.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: What happened?
00:31:41
Speaker 3: According to court records, the incident happened in February of twenty twenty six at an apartment in Tampa Palms, and so police are alleging that three men were lord into an apartment by a Jasmine Rendazzo and Ariana del Val and investigators say that when one of the men went into the bathroom, he opened the closet and he was come funded by two goons who detectives identified Lindel Hudson and Christian Williams, who allegedly then pistol.
00:32:07
Speaker 2: Whipped the victims a good two men.
00:32:09
Speaker 4: That's like old it's like old school stuff.
00:32:14
Speaker 2: Were watching exactly it.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: So detectives ultimately believe that the case connects back to some reported thefts from a short term run on home that Arnold the football player was renting. So he ended up using either he asked his man's in numb to do the get back or they wanted to protect their homeboy and do the get back. So obviously now it's become front page news. And we have this clip here.
00:32:40
Speaker 1: This is his phone call. This is his his phone call to the police. By the way, he reported stolen items in the amount of about three hundred thousand dollars jewelry and such. So play that.
00:32:53
Speaker 5: Here we go again.
00:32:55
Speaker 4: This is a football player, Jesus Christ and this is a question.
00:32:59
Speaker 9: Because then anything else for you, that's it? Okay, Uh, your bible, Okay, I got your bible. Was it was it like a personalized bible like expensive or is that stuff?
00:33:16
Speaker 4: An brother?
00:33:18
Speaker 5: And of that le security when you get like he wasn't with me because I've been hurt, So yeah, I.
00:33:26
Speaker 4: Be going my boys kind of sound. So this is more so one of those.
00:33:31
Speaker 5: Things whereby it was bound to have been and whoever did it, they had inside and my inside information.
00:33:40
Speaker 2: What was it like one hundred K in a bag? So he's guilty.
00:33:46
Speaker 1: You well, you hear what he's talking about it, okay, So no, here's the thing hear me out. So the people in which that they kidnapped and pistol with allegedly all had alibis and did not steal this person's did not steal Terran's property. So what it's looking like is that it wasn't inside job, which he also alluded to in the call. People are suspecting his friends actually set him up, and his friends also convinced him, Hey, you can't let nobody play in your face.
00:34:23
Speaker 4: So now we're trying to we're gonna get it back on both.
00:34:25
Speaker 1: Sides and yes, and so if you guys see he did just go to court, and this is something that I learned. He approached the stand in a green vest and jumpsuit. A green vest means that you are on suicide watch. So he is currently looking at potentially life in jail over this because I believe it's seven or eight felony counts of kidnapping and of forced with a weapon and all these things. Now, how he got tied into it, unfortunately, is through text messages. There are text messages where he's telling them what to do and how to do it. So he wasn't actually presenting this, but he's part of the conspiracy.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: He was the inside man with the inside information. It sounds like right, and he sounded guilty.
00:35:17
Speaker 4: He was talking.
00:35:18
Speaker 3: It was like the phrasing there's an inside man with inside information.
00:35:22
Speaker 2: It's like you're talking too much.
00:35:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, what's unfortunate about this is he does appear to come from a really good home. He's from Tallahassee, Florida. He went on a podcast I saw, and uh, you know, he was kind of sounding like, you know, will you come from where I'm from? You know, there's only a few options. You either got to be a rapper or a baller or end up dead. And the guys interviewing him are like, what school did you go to? He well, I mean I went to a Catholic school. But and so, like you could tell he's also just unfortunately one of those black men that feel the need to be harder. Unfortunately, this guy's.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: You don't think about like good like people like.
00:36:09
Speaker 3: It sounds like, let's say you come from a rough upbringing, but you excel in something enough, did you have the opportunity to go to like the school?
00:36:18
Speaker 5: Uh?
00:36:19
Speaker 1: And there he goes. That's it.
00:36:22
Speaker 5: You know, this is happening way too often. I think of an incident with DeAndre Baker former New York Giants. It's like, you gotta be mindful of the people around you when you elevate and get to a certain status. I don't know if they I mean, obviously it's I would imagine it's difficult to have that type of discernment at twenty one, twenty two years old, unless something happens and then you forced to be to have discernment. But I don't know where the solution starts other than you got to have good people around you, because it's no way that he's an NFL football player. He's elevated his status, you know as far as like money.
00:37:04
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, fourteen million?
00:37:07
Speaker 5: Why do you have time to be doing all this ship and constructing this plan to do what over.
00:37:13
Speaker 1: Two hundred and three and everything, which is a lot of money, But.
00:37:17
Speaker 5: It's just gonna end there, Like you control the narrative. You don't this phones stop another thing they be playing with these phones? Yeah, we text. None of this shit is safe, nothing goes anywhere, nothing has ever deleted, nothing is everything. Oh you said you was over here, Well let's go paying the fucking on that.
00:37:36
Speaker 1: Now. Let me ask you, I think if you can look it up, I think he's twenty Can you look up his age real quick?
00:37:43
Speaker 4: And three?
00:37:44
Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. He's he's on his rookie contracts still but making like fourteen million dollars, making a lot of money. At what? At what point? At what age? And is there an age that when you reach a certain life level of success is you should start removing people that may or may not be good.
00:38:05
Speaker 5: And sometimes you know, you don't know, you don't know because another thing too, he making fourteen million dollars, he probably feels like he got power do whatever the fuck he wants, because no one's in his circle to tell him, Yo, chill, you don't need to do that. Let's go focus on off season. Let's get get in shape, you know what I mean, do some shit for the community. Let's get these kids doing a little summer league.
00:38:25
Speaker 4: Right. Where's that energy? Why are we doing that type of what? Okay, but now he's potentially going to be a different life.
00:38:34
Speaker 1: No, yeah, a life of life.
00:38:36
Speaker 4: You work so hard.
00:38:37
Speaker 5: You're talking about as eight year old, You're doing the pee wee league, You're doing.
00:38:40
Speaker 4: All the things.
00:38:42
Speaker 5: Do you know the percentage of people students who make it from high school to college one? Right, it's very slim to play college ball to get us and that's on D one, D two, D three, even the fucking junior college shit to get to the D the D three, Right, and then you actually get drafted, right, you make it and signed to a team and you make a significant amount of money.
00:39:04
Speaker 4: That means he's not a rotational player, he's a starter.
00:39:07
Speaker 1: What story did we just talk about where someone like they didn't take disrespect or like that. We teach that you shouldn't disrespect people, and you got to because this is also it leans what was it the Carmelo Anthony case? There we go, thank you and this is what this kind of reminds me of. Right, it's a twenty three year old who feels like he got got and had to get his look back because how dare you come to my house still for me and disrespect me? And instead of going through which he did call the cops to file the report. But whether it was his friends or his pride, he felt that he had to take justice into his own hands. And unfortunately, to me, this is the same outcome. Unfortunately that we're seeing is a lot different.
00:39:54
Speaker 5: That was a circumstantial situation. There was a lot of things happened.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: How is this not circumstantial because he felt.
00:39:58
Speaker 5: He's on text message orchestrating. It could have been something that stopped that. The Carmelo thing was things events have happened in real time, and the story is still development because we find out that it wasn't how I was presented to us when he was convicted.
00:40:14
Speaker 1: That still you kidnapped four adults, pencil with them, but some at some point between coming up with this plan. Even though at some point somebody in your circle, somebody in your life, did you has to tell you that not worth you doing this and risking your entire career in life over getting your look back over this. Yes, it's a lot of money, right, Yes, people came in your home and sold from you in disrespect. But the idea that nobody made the conscious effort to stop this plan from going through is unfortunate and what also sexist. A lot of the friends seemed to be putting blame on him, like they're they're like to get lesser sentences.
00:41:00
Speaker 5: Would like you would have thought with this type of situation, you would have thought, you know, some people learn by watching other people.
00:41:07
Speaker 6: Some people learn by their own experience. Right, you would have thought this guy would have.
00:41:11
Speaker 4: Seen what O. J.
00:41:12
Speaker 6: Simpson went through Jesus and been like, oh, that's not the way to handle it. But the problem is that we had a rich nigga handling shit like a broke nigga.
00:41:20
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I actually disagree with you only because he wasn't there, so you know how like we talked about the Gucci man he was, he went with his daddy. Unfortunately in this case, actually I do feel like he did handle it he had his ghouls go do what he wanted to do and wasn't there. Unfortunately, though, you got caught because of what the text messages.
00:41:47
Speaker 6: No, but this is what I'm saying, though, a rich when you get rich, you deal with life differently everybody else.
00:41:53
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, when you get right there, you.
00:41:56
Speaker 5: Do things in a way that at that point you have a lot to lose, and you deal with things that say, I have a lot to I'm still gonna handle this, but I have a lot to lose, and.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: So I don't get my hands dirty. I don't go And even.
00:42:08
Speaker 6: When you see mob movies and all this shit, you don't see the Godfather going to do the dirt. You send some niggas to go do whatever you're gonna do. And so you handle this a certain kind of way. In this case, you don't send these niggas. You send some lawyer niggas, you send some police niggas, you send some private investigator niggas, but you don't send people to go do crime regular niggas when you have this kind of money.
00:42:32
Speaker 1: And what sucks heavily about this, y'all know a bitch from.
00:42:36
Speaker 5: Florida, nigga, it's another thing too, jurisdiction. When you do certain thing in certain states, the penalty is more severe Florida historically, don't give a fuck.
00:42:48
Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck, but not only that you're a black man.
00:42:51
Speaker 4: Don't give a fuck.
00:42:52
Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck.
00:42:53
Speaker 6: And if it's I don't know if this will be a jury trial or it's just a judge, but a judge as a singular person, a judge, caause just look at this and be like, young man, you had all this opportunity in front of you, Like.
00:43:05
Speaker 4: Why should I be leaning on you? Why should I give you a lesson? Sis? Why should I let you copy? Please?
00:43:09
Speaker 1: I'm curious?
00:43:10
Speaker 4: Orchestrated? What did the kidnapping went? Super ud? Yeah? What if you kill somebody indirectly?
00:43:19
Speaker 1: Is there any point yomi? If you have an idea too, Is there any time that it's ever worth taking justice into your own hands.
00:43:28
Speaker 4: The only time? Not property? Yeah? Yeah, yes, that's exactly what I was. Your kid.
00:43:34
Speaker 5: You know, we're going back to the mob. They always say no women, no kids, right, Well, your woman and your kid.
00:43:41
Speaker 1: That's tough. Did y'all see the way back to Florida? Did y'all see the documentary Perfect neighbor.
00:43:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, she did that. She was one of the wretched white bitches.
00:43:49
Speaker 1: I was talking to go and defend her kids, and she got killed. Like it's tough because and now those babies are left with no mom. I'm very it's very hard hard for me to think of any point where taking justice into our own hands doesn't inevitably result in something like a loss of life, a loss of rights, a loss of freedom. And so for me, like when you value your life, I can't right now think of anything that I would give up all of those things or risk my life for, or risk my freedom for because I want to retaliate or get my look backer. I can't think about it.
00:44:28
Speaker 5: But here's another thing too. If he goes to the courts, as you said, then he would be deemed a snitch. I don't the reason why.
00:44:39
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. How he's handling hand like I can't go to the courts, But yeah you can, nigga, could you? Tax bracket can and rules don't apply to you you at all? Who you don't commit crime?
00:44:55
Speaker 5: Usually this is an isolated football player. There's no should to your point. Many do I get that. It's like you are playing, you are risking something.
00:45:08
Speaker 6: By him whatever. Even if it goes right, you're still taking a risk. But I could see you emotionally losing it over your wife, your kids, something like that. Like we just saw the father I was at a Florida two the father who got shot in the face by the way end because he did something to his daughter.
00:45:29
Speaker 1: Way by the way. And I know this has been something sent on podcasts since the pandemic and even before those videos. I hate that we get to see those videos. Like it was literally him walking up to confront and he shot him dead point.
00:45:47
Speaker 4: In front of other people, other people and the other kid was trapped up to Yeah, so they knew.
00:45:54
Speaker 5: The thing is I would say with that scenario is you got to understand the times were living in. Yeah, these young boys don't have no emotional in challenges at all. They don't know how to form those words.
00:46:03
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to read.
00:46:05
Speaker 1: Thing is, you see these videos.
00:46:07
Speaker 4: They just want to back the lost implemented.
00:46:10
Speaker 1: Uh.
00:46:12
Speaker 4: And that's not that's not that's not an indictment on the.
00:46:18
Speaker 5: Remember a couple of episodes ago we talked about how they do this, the systemic oppression through education the same thing. So then removing the ability to do cursive that's intentional, of course, but that's real quick think.
00:46:31
Speaker 1: Howd on do you write it? Do we as adults, though, do we write a cursive?
00:46:35
Speaker 4: I do, all right?
00:46:37
Speaker 1: When do you write a cursive?
00:46:38
Speaker 4: Signing?
00:46:39
Speaker 1: Things about your signature?
00:46:41
Speaker 4: Okay, so years ago when I was you.
00:46:44
Speaker 5: Know, when you you write passionate letters to you know.
00:46:50
Speaker 4: What I'm saying some ships up now, this is a big blue bottle and to use a little white out if you make make an error.
00:47:04
Speaker 1: You were not using white out and king.
00:47:07
Speaker 5: But look, I think the father in that case he should have read the room, protect his daughter, let it slide, but be prepared that.
00:47:16
Speaker 4: He might have to shoot one of the no niggas. Yeah, and the fact that he did, he tried to go out there with big brodick arm like, Yo, what up, I'm gonna beat your ass.
00:47:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a different There's different about how that's family.
00:47:27
Speaker 4: That's a different thing.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: I will say too, if you guys want to just dig deeper, y'all know that I have an affinity for the gangs in Jacksonville, Florida. And the Julio folio case has a trial has looked like it's come to an end for a lot of the the people who orchestrated the killing, and one of the gentlemen specifically, I want to give you his name, because they've been showing that he also came from a good household, traveled the country, was a photographer, came from a good home and was that actually responsible for trying to take the life of Julio twice Sean Gathwright, who has taken responsibility, but who is pleading for leniency. And it's just crazy because when you look at these young these young boys thinking that you could get away with killing someone like he literally had a piece on his on an AR fifteen that caught the casings in that this was planned. Y'all drove down to Tampa. So again going back to at any point somebody saying, Yo, this isn't worth it. I don't want to hear y'all crying on the stands pleading for leniency for something that you had ample time to second guests and choose to not do.
00:48:45
Speaker 4: You didn't have to go down there route.
00:48:47
Speaker 1: Speaking of not having to go down that route in this if America, Babe, a woman was caught on video emptying a public trash can on the streets. This is, of course, during the New York Knicks championship parade. She has been identified as the director at JP Morgan Chase, the director of DEI might.
00:49:11
Speaker 4: I add three hundred thousand dollars plus per year salary.
00:49:14
Speaker 1: And she was recently let go and fired from her job from her role for doing this. Now what's crazy is the post has learned that dumping trash onto the street and stealing public property for your own personal use while illegal anti social. She did not get charged for it, right right, So she unfortunately has lost her jobs due to the court of public opinion.
00:49:44
Speaker 4: Now you said, why everybody filming shit? Right?
00:49:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, hearing out?
00:49:48
Speaker 5: You got to be responsible enough and mindful enough that you're not picking up a piece of paper and running with it. You in broad day. Look at the back of that picture. You see all these people in the background.
00:49:59
Speaker 4: R big.
00:50:00
Speaker 1: You were looking at her back because that's a big back. That's a big old bag.
00:50:05
Speaker 4: It's a lot to unpackage. Got to snap back with bom. The snap back is crazy, right, the right picture?
00:50:14
Speaker 1: Wait?
00:50:14
Speaker 4: Is that a snap snap back? Trying to be like Jaylen No, I did not notice. Yeah, yeah, so so you pick up.
00:50:25
Speaker 5: The fucking garbage which was spread out all throughout that area of the city orange and blue right and nostalgic ship. Yeah, sure, even if you want to take the garbage. I don't even think they fired her because she took the garbage, can you don't? I think they fired her ass because she emptied the garbage on the street.
00:50:44
Speaker 4: That was a lot of garbage in front of everybody.
00:50:46
Speaker 5: Look at the people are in dismayed like what are we witnessing here?
00:50:50
Speaker 1: Or here's what I say, Like, I do want to add, By the way, y'all.
00:50:53
Speaker 10: She should have took the whole thing.
00:50:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, well she was kind of struggling lifting up without the garbage, and then he got her own subway with the dad smiling way.
00:51:02
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait video on her on the subway.
00:51:05
Speaker 4: In the in the train, chilling right there. That's your bottom the bottom, right Can I can?
00:51:11
Speaker 1: I also add the embarrassment of this So the same way we talked about Ryan Arnold risking his fourteen million dollar NFL salary with stupidness, This trash can for any Knicks fan that wants it is actually available online for one hundred and sixty eight dollars. A way to do was look and see if she could have bought this online. It was one hundred and sixty eight dollars. Babe, you didn't have to steal public property. She had. She got dog three hundred thousand dollars salary now.
00:51:45
Speaker 4: And she probably got the last executive position in this country as at the esteemed J.
00:51:54
Speaker 1: Morgan. Because I'm not gonna lie with d I currently. You know that's a job opening somebody. No, no, no, no, you know that's what I'm seeing on the internet. They were like, oh, they were looking for a reason to fire. This is the way that JP Morgan doesn't have to take the brunt of what target is facing. Right, we could just go ahead and get out of our We could say we are midway through the year. Oh my god, let's look at these p and ls. Oh, we can get rid of our whole division that we've seen a lot of the other companies. This fucking digenerate.
00:52:34
Speaker 4: Now what is she is? She?
00:52:36
Speaker 1: She look.
00:52:39
Speaker 10: So if I'm not mistaken, I thought she was Puerto Rican.
00:52:44
Speaker 1: I mean it gives that, it gives that, well, oh my god, I will say to the internet when I say, when they want to find something out. Her resume was posted.
00:52:58
Speaker 5: The crazy part about it was the the first videos that went out was four k h D times ten.
00:53:05
Speaker 4: So cald you imagine her colleagues. Is that Maria?
00:53:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she got to be Maria. Hold that's not her name.
00:53:12
Speaker 4: Don't do that.
00:53:13
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That was a real interview. Hold on, let's get her name because just because she Latina.
00:53:18
Speaker 4: First of all, you said, that's very ignorant.
00:53:19
Speaker 1: No, that was Hey, what's her name? What's her name, Jessica, you call it crazy.
00:53:29
Speaker 10: I don't know.
00:53:30
Speaker 1: They put it out there because they put her whole They put out there. We go Lydia. Her name is Lydia.
00:53:37
Speaker 4: Lydia what Lydia?
00:53:39
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, it's not Lydia.
00:53:41
Speaker 1: I just saw it.
00:53:42
Speaker 4: That was that was the writer writer.
00:53:46
Speaker 1: I caught it quick. I caught it quick.
00:53:49
Speaker 10: Are your Angie, Angie Bias, Angie Bis?
00:53:55
Speaker 4: You know it's crazy Maria? That might be Puerto Rico, she might be.
00:54:00
Speaker 5: Here's here's my thing about it, right, this is wildly stupid, Like the whole thing is wildly stupid to do.
00:54:05
Speaker 4: Stupid and to your.
00:54:07
Speaker 6: Point about like maybe they just needed reason to fire her whatever, the case is, I've seen people do a lot of dumb ship.
00:54:13
Speaker 4: They deserve them to get fired, you know, off the clock.
00:54:18
Speaker 6: Is this like, for for real? Is this really like a fireable offense? Like it's embarrassing and it's stupid. But is this like, yes, oh, ship, you you're what what are.
00:54:28
Speaker 10: You saying to.
00:54:34
Speaker 1: We've been seeing for the last ten years.
00:54:37
Speaker 4: From the Bronx.
00:54:40
Speaker 1: Better guys. We've been seeing for the last ten years paid their jobs for less, for opinions they've posted online, for liking tweets, for promoting certain agendas, or even their political affiliation. We've seen people lose this. So essentially, what you do is you commit a crime on video. And unfortunately, here's the other thing. And I said this when when we talk about artists and podcasters and and people that are in big businesses, right, what do we always say, damn, did you not read your contract? Unfortunately, what a lot of people do when they start jobs. Those pamphlets are so big.
00:55:19
Speaker 4: You sign knowing how ethics.
00:55:22
Speaker 1: They don't they don't read the they don't.
00:55:25
Speaker 5: Read the company.
00:55:28
Speaker 6: These are my obligations, and that I show up.
00:55:33
Speaker 4: She's not she's not a secretary.
00:55:36
Speaker 1: Bros.
00:55:37
Speaker 4: Three hundred a year.
00:55:39
Speaker 5: You are a different type of representation of a company that is not exemplary of how you should be representing the company. Look at the garbage and New York has a rat problem, John So in the broad daylight, she said, fuck them rats.
00:55:53
Speaker 4: Nix.
00:55:57
Speaker 1: Not only that, fuck with the safety. Imagine how you could trip and ball over this. You're you're creating a hazard for a city during one of the most chaotic moments in the city.
00:56:06
Speaker 4: The sanitation already has enough to deal with. You think she was sober?
00:56:11
Speaker 5: No one, even if she's clearly knowing what she was doing.
00:56:15
Speaker 6: Bro, No, she very much knows what she's doing. I'm just wondering, like, what makes you think that you could just do this?
00:56:20
Speaker 1: Okay, to be honest, I'm gonna lead in somebody ignorance here.
00:56:25
Speaker 4: Y'all.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: Ain't never been to a restaurant and like something they put on the table and decided that you're gonna take it home with you.
00:56:31
Speaker 4: Plenty of ramakins, it's.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: Right now, let's be serious. Here, I go to Noble. They got a little dog with his little okay emphasis, No.
00:56:46
Speaker 11: Huge, No, this is a huge Imagine that she walked down, she waited for the train. Right, she got on the train.
00:56:59
Speaker 5: And you know what's great If you look at the video of this, her friend was trying to stay out of the camera.
00:57:03
Speaker 4: She knew it was up, but on that video she got caught.
00:57:07
Speaker 1: This is what I look like taking flower arrangements. I'm not gonna hold you at the function, O babe. I'm there till the end, and I literally go up, Who's in charge? What can I take a flower arrangement home? But when I tell you after every event I am taking.
00:57:28
Speaker 8: Sometimes sometimes I don't ask big metals.
00:57:37
Speaker 4: That's crazy, man. She look at look at the ground, look at the people behind her.
00:57:43
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, I will say we are all in agreement. Then before we go onto the next topic. That essentially she she deserves to lose her job.
00:57:52
Speaker 4: Yeah you bought that. I mean I would like to get what you get that.
00:57:56
Speaker 5: What I would hope is that there was a conversation that was had other than bye bye. I think, well again, but you still at the discretion of the of the company. Company, so they probably could have kept her. Right you know what, because I feel like suspension.
00:58:11
Speaker 6: I feel like she got fired because the headlines came out saying JP Morgan.
00:58:15
Speaker 4: Because who would have even known that in the first PLACEK video, Oh that's what's her name? What is the other question? Colleagues? Did the colleagues? Did the colleagues send the email or all the hr like, Yo, what's up where I don't like bro?
00:58:29
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no. If this was not a good boss, okay, don't let me see anybody anything like the whole internet.
00:58:40
Speaker 4: I know that, I've seen that. I know that bit.
00:58:44
Speaker 5: I bet you're a white woman one of her colleagues that don't like her, probably coming to the office being I'm not.
00:58:49
Speaker 4: Just or some ship and she got your bitch? Is that miss bias?
00:58:55
Speaker 1: To be fair, we talked about again the cell phones. Nothing that y'all do now.
00:58:59
Speaker 4: Is and that's who's not pulling out. It's probably more footage than we haven't seen yet. That's that's crazy.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: Look at I'm not gonna lie at this point. We're leaning heavily into technology because the next conversation that we are having has to deal with Big Tigger and a domestic abuse case in which his ring camera footage was released and was the reason as to why he was arrested. So Tigger was arrested for child, cruelty and battery. There is a video.
00:59:34
Speaker 4: Which doesn't make it.
00:59:36
Speaker 1: Well, No, the kid was right in front. It was around during during this. Here's the other thing. The child was around during the dispute. Now there's no need for me to play the video because there's not much that is happening. You'll just hear it. It looks like there was a tussle over something, an object of an object. You do hear big tigger leading for her to stop, and it looks like they both fall over into the door. So they both fall into a doorway or friend.
01:00:10
Speaker 5: Which gravity, the laws of gravity and body and how you're moving around, it's going to happen. But then she starts screaming and hooping and hollering. Now I think he had he purposely stayed in the camera view.
01:00:20
Speaker 1: Though, well I don't know about that.
01:00:23
Speaker 4: Now.
01:00:23
Speaker 1: I do want to bring this up, and this is from Tesslin. Figure oh shout out to her, so she yep, shout out to black facts. So she's aware of, you know, some different statutes that deal with battery. And I wanted to read this just so that we're a little bit more informed so as it relates to battery statue you know, OCG a whole munch. Numbers below are the elements that must be proven, and this is what must be proven for this to stick with Big Tigger. So a person commits the offensive battery when he or she intentionally causes substantial physical harm or visible bodily harm to another elements of the state must prove. To convict of a defendant of battery, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that one the defendant intentionally acted, which doesn't seem the case with this video. The defendant caused physical harm to another person, which yes, they both fell at the same time, and the harm was either substantial physical harm or visible bodily harm, which sucks because it did. But well, they have the proof right now of the video. I think it's going to go.
01:01:32
Speaker 4: If they didn't, they didn't have nothing, look at it.
01:01:35
Speaker 1: They no, they had the visible scarring of her like this video. We're assuming it's from that.
01:01:44
Speaker 4: But she took it down the next day.
01:01:45
Speaker 1: And she took it down and recanted. Here's the other problem. The Internet is having a hard time having empathy for this woman, which, mind you, anytime there's a domestic violence case, immediately the man is viewed as the fucking perpetrator, the monster, the evil villain.
01:02:07
Speaker 4: Oh, I have women friends that say blame men.
01:02:09
Speaker 1: But all this is looking differently, and it's because people have pulled up the past of Big Tigger's wife. So her name is Alicia Brown, and while they have shared children, there are reports that she left a child in a vehicle.
01:02:27
Speaker 4: While she gambled in Las Vegas.
01:02:30
Speaker 1: For six or seven hours. There is also a report that the same child has been missing for the last nine years. There's also reports that she claimed physical domestic violence from her ex, which is the father of which is the fathers child, was trying to get custody.
01:02:49
Speaker 5: However, Maryland state law does not favor men, not only.
01:02:52
Speaker 1: Maryland state law. However, cases were dropped. She renigged on the physical abuse, and it's gone cold because this daughter allegedly wit missing in the home. Now they are saying that it's possible that she just is hiding this child because she doesn't want the father to have custody. All of that to say.
01:03:15
Speaker 6: Well, the daughter doesn't want to be found because maybe she doesn't want to have anything to do with either.
01:03:19
Speaker 4: One of them.
01:03:20
Speaker 1: I want is there a way Yomi. You can pull up the clip that I have here because I want us to break down where the internet is having a lack of empathy. Yes, that clip right there. If you could play this clip for us please?
01:03:34
Speaker 4: Oh lord?
01:03:35
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're going in bed.
01:03:38
Speaker 4: Everybody want to talk dis ignorant. We got to start having like some kind of podcast education on it.
01:03:46
Speaker 1: You got a motherfucker be kidding me.
01:03:49
Speaker 12: You left your child in a con for eight hours, a four year old for eight hours, while you're going to casino, and did she end up missing?
01:04:00
Speaker 1: And no one knows what she at. Father having said this child no more. Doing the research on you.
01:04:05
Speaker 12: And finding out that you as a very toxic person, you give me.
01:04:10
Speaker 1: It's a thing like between love and hate.
01:04:16
Speaker 12: Because let me tell you something, Big Ticket didn't know who he was dealing with, because how he know.
01:04:20
Speaker 2: I don't think that he would have dated you.
01:04:22
Speaker 12: You make me believe that you hit yourself upside the head and try to come on this internet and turnish Big Ticket's.
01:04:28
Speaker 1: Reputation because we never heard of.
01:04:29
Speaker 12: This about him. He don't even look like he had type. Big Ticket. You need to watch him because if she did this to her first child, she'll do it to your child, man, Take this to court, get custody on your child.
01:04:40
Speaker 4: Man.
01:04:40
Speaker 1: She trying to destroy you.
01:04:44
Speaker 5: Well, you know it's a bunch of holes, but you know, at somebody and be like, but see.
01:04:50
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, this is what the internet is talking about. And I do want to I want to sit here and say a rapist doesn't always look like a rapist, and a a user doesn't always look like an abuser. A woman is not always innocent in their claims. The problem here is immediately, because of twenty fourteen arrests and mistakes and choices that this woman made, she no longer gets to be a victim. And it's unfortunate because it's what we also saw in terms of say the Diddy case with Cassie. It's what we're seeing with a lot of sex workers who are being violated by perpetrators, but they're not getting the sympathy of society. And so unfortunately, where yes, there's always this blame men, women are innocent stance, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that as a community, as a society, we're leaning into a now place where if you are not the perfect outstanding citizen, you no longer get to be a victim of any crime. And so this is interesting seeing how they're automatically siding with Big Tigger because he's had no previous allegations or any previous anything, which means nothing. But as a woman, as a mother, as a wife, we're seeing someone who showcased signs of abuse, who went online crying, which I absolutely hate. But we're seeing the internet completely not allow her to be a victim in this stance without all of the evidence. And it's unfortunate because she answered us into this group chat by posting that video to begin with. Correct, but now the state is involved. Now we have bring camera footage and it's just something to wear.
01:06:39
Speaker 4: Maybe she got the eye when she fell.
01:06:43
Speaker 1: What I also want to say, this is also interesting lens that people are viewing. They're saying like, Big Tigger, how didn't you know about this past that she had? How did you know? How did you not know that she was this type of mother? And I wanted to ask y'all, has there ever been a relationship or a dating phase with a woman that you were talking to where you completely ignored a red flag and later down the line you were like, damn, I saw it. I ignored it. I didn't want to believe it, but it's true. Or now I'm seeing that you're still that same person because unfortunately she's cried wolf with domestic violence. She's sitting here with a lot of question marks about her past in terms of being a mother. Yet you procreated with this woman.
01:07:30
Speaker 4: Right.
01:07:31
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a situation where.
01:07:33
Speaker 6: Like nothing, for me, nothing has ever been like that extreme, Like, okay, there's always when you meet somebody, you're always taking in information about how they act, not just how they interact with you, but how do they interact with other people like you. A lot of women say, oh, if I go to dinner with a man and he's rude to the weight staff, then like for me, that you're automatically out because if you're going to be rude to the weight staff, then it shows that you don't have any training.
01:07:58
Speaker 4: You don't know how to treat people. So they can be stuff like that.
01:08:01
Speaker 6: Where you look at it and be like, damn, that's kind of unnecessary. Or you see someone's you see one of their flaws like leap through the mask they might be trying to put on, and you'd be like, I don't know, I've never had anything personally that was to this degree of like, oh shit, something dangerous or something scary happened after that. But I don't know the reason court of public opinion is stupid place because it shit doesn't mean anything like, Okay, whatever problems this woman had or whatever bullshit she might have done in the past doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not she was assaulted or battered in this case in this situation. So I don't even know, like outside of just trying to look to punish the woman, I don't know what that has to do with anything.
01:08:48
Speaker 1: And I want to flip this real quick, because we never talked about it. You said the court of public opinion is a stupid place. You know who I'm seeing defend themselves right now to the court of public opinion, go ahead. The case that happened in Tanzania with the influencer.
01:09:06
Speaker 4: Yeah oh, the white guy Joe and.
01:09:08
Speaker 1: Ashley Janette, it has been ruled a suicide, and what he's been doing recently is showing the fear in her mental health through text messages, her mom even asking how is she today, her running into traffic, and unfortunately the entire country celebrities podcasters as well who are friends with her don't want to believe that she was that down and out with her mental health, and everyone said, this white man killed this black girl, and what he's created a whole page to kind of try to he has to defend himself now in the court of public opinion, because in the court with the autopsy, he's been proved innocent. And so now, fortunately, the court of public opinion isn't really that stupid, now, is it. The court of public opinion will old someone to the fire for something that they've been cleared of.
01:10:04
Speaker 6: That's like, why, but why are you defending yourself to the court of public opinion?
01:10:08
Speaker 4: Because are you kidding me?
01:10:09
Speaker 1: Not only not not only does someone die, the court of public opinion will keep you from ever having a normal life again. Even if you're not you that.
01:10:21
Speaker 4: There's zero he can do about it, because if it was anyone.
01:10:28
Speaker 8: Chang change mine, changed mine.
01:10:32
Speaker 5: You still have to put things out for public record to say, hey, this is not what happened.
01:10:36
Speaker 4: Let me tell my story.
01:10:37
Speaker 1: Not only we always like to draw conspiracies about people and how they died, why they died, what they were connected to, when sometimes it's it's literally cut and dry. Sometimes all this one is a little suss I'm not gonna lie him showing like the fact that she was battling mental health. Apparently he was also going to call off the engagement because they had gotten into an argument. And apparently, according to everyone, this is all she wanted, was this marriage is But she was manic, she was dealing with depressions. She was dealing with you know, And I don't think that people realize like how much that is, like working with people who end up having suicidal ideologies.
01:11:18
Speaker 5: And he bypassed those quote unquote red flags because he probably.
01:11:22
Speaker 1: Thought because he loved her, he probably.
01:11:26
Speaker 5: You hear the truth of the automatic ye o. The reason why we hear, the reason why this happens, the question that she has.
01:11:33
Speaker 4: Have you ever experienced it? Yo? Good?
01:11:36
Speaker 5: Poom poom, my god, my mother says, my mother, I think we were going.
01:11:41
Speaker 4: It's true. My mom will say the flesh is weak. You know why she said that ship because niggas had no decorum. You put on a dude, it will it will erase some of the He was like, man, that's a crazy motherfucker, But is it good?
01:12:01
Speaker 5: Risks somebody doing it right now? In office in this building. Is somebody making a bad decision?
01:12:07
Speaker 8: What makes now you know what, because you just saying, and I'm potter with niggas.
01:12:12
Speaker 1: What makes pussy so good that you're going to ignore the signs of mentally unstable?
01:12:18
Speaker 4: Yeah?
01:12:19
Speaker 1: What makes it so good? Oh?
01:12:21
Speaker 4: For me? Nothing? What makes it good? It is the moment. The moment is the moment, time and opportunity.
01:12:29
Speaker 1: Wait what said Macaroni?
01:12:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, you stirring it up to get the end result.
01:12:35
Speaker 4: The opportunity creates what circumstance?
01:12:39
Speaker 1: That didn't answer what makes pussy good?
01:12:43
Speaker 4: Makes it good? Is? I mean that's because it's blinded by lust all the time. Depends on every pussy is different.
01:12:50
Speaker 1: But what makes it so good? You ignore a woman that left her child in the car for eight hours, access to it, access to.
01:12:57
Speaker 6: Access to in fairness to this white man, which yeah.
01:13:01
Speaker 1: Oh wait, because now you're going back to.
01:13:02
Speaker 6: The what I'm saying in his case, his story, his story that I love her so like getting married, so like in his mind he's thinking, this is my life partner.
01:13:13
Speaker 1: Whatever, she actually married.
01:13:16
Speaker 4: Children, I'm not ignoring, but he didn't. But also to I think what gets lost in she had a high level government job. She had a very history and colorful who did uh the young lady.
01:13:28
Speaker 1: That y'all got it story?
01:13:32
Speaker 5: Okay, so he probably was navigating in these circles and he came across her and then nothing.
01:13:39
Speaker 1: He's a huge crypto.
01:13:40
Speaker 5: He had more know what I'm saying. But still she's what I'm saying. She had access to him through her journey in her work.
01:13:47
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, they met. She put on an event in Abbi or Dubai and was able to meet him.
01:13:52
Speaker 5: So he's not knowing about none of that ship. I'm pretty sure I don't know that there's a missing. Listen, if you date a girl, a woman, and there's a I haven't seen my daughter, you're probably gonna sidebar and be.
01:14:04
Speaker 4: Like, up, oh that's no, but you don't check that left her daughter in the car.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie you.
01:14:10
Speaker 4: I'm if he knew, if.
01:14:16
Speaker 5: He knew, if and I don't want to put this on him, but if he knew, you know what kept him.
01:14:21
Speaker 1: She had a different story.
01:14:22
Speaker 4: You know what kept him, the story and the pussy. Okay, it's the power of the people.
01:14:28
Speaker 5: They say that because we are fucking dumb man, are dumb.
01:14:33
Speaker 4: We will do that.
01:14:34
Speaker 6: Like I said, niggas take risks for all types of ship all the time.
01:14:38
Speaker 1: You know what was crazy? I keep saying? Can we just say people did y'all see the tender swindler was giving away their whole life.
01:14:53
Speaker 4: To engage other bullshit.
01:14:55
Speaker 1: This is why lust is one of the sevenst deadly Number one.
01:15:00
Speaker 5: Well, you thinks take command as they say, du should not covet another niggas woman that should not commit.
01:15:07
Speaker 4: About Yeah, I'm kissing God knew what you said.
01:15:13
Speaker 1: Lust is the top seven deadly sin? Which which deadly sin do y'all feel controls the most of your life?
01:15:21
Speaker 4: What's the seven? Let's go down there the.
01:15:23
Speaker 1: Seven is, and I want y'all to that are listening to figure out which seven deadly sin controls the most of your life. So you have lust, which is disordered in excessive sexual desire. You have gluttony, which is the over indulgence and over consumption of food or drinks. You have greed, which is an excessive desire for wealth or material possessions. Sloth which is laziness, spiritual apathy or avoidance of effort, wrath, which is what I think we see with a lot of the things that we talked about earlier is uncontrolled feelings of hatred, rage, or desire for revenge, which I think is what we discussed earlier, Envy resentment, which is resentment or sadness that others traits, status or possessions. And then the last one is pride, excessive self worth or arrogance. Often consider the deadliest sin from which all others stem. Now, I'm curious for all of us here if we can, which one do you think controls you the most? Now I can start off because I'm very aware of mine, and I just actually also had this conversation, right, So the deadly sin that most connects to me one percent would be greed, an excessive desire of wealth and material possessions. If you've heard my thoughts on billionaires, trillionaires, millionaires, I would do and have done almost anything to obtain money. I come from nothing, I had nothing. I've had to decide whether it's gonna be toilet paper or food. And there are things that I've done in the sake of being able to pay bills. And so for me, I would say greed one hundred.
01:17:14
Speaker 6: Percent that that isn't greed in an.
01:17:19
Speaker 1: Ovall, No, it was survival. But where I'm now now, Yeah, the billionaire thing is definitely I would want to obey. I'm not I'm not working hard enough.
01:17:29
Speaker 4: Like I say, not too, like I ain't gonna lie. We might have the same.
01:17:33
Speaker 1: I'm not working hard enough. I want to obtain a wealth where I don't have to look at prices. I want to go on trips like I want to live a life where the dollar amount of things does not make And until I get to that place, I'm not making enough money. Now when y'all see this list, are y'all aligned with me? You said you aren't. But John, is there any other thing that you think dictates your life?
01:17:59
Speaker 6: If I had to, I think, if I had the name, one is probably gluttony, okay, because it's just easy to just like it's easy to drink. It's easy to I mean, we just drink tequila at ten o'clock in the morning. I mean my sins, you know what I mean.
01:18:22
Speaker 4: So it's like that.
01:18:23
Speaker 5: I think gluttony is a thing, But I think pride is probably the thing that will probably I think it gets everybody at some point.
01:18:32
Speaker 1: I'm if I need something, I'm asking for it.
01:18:35
Speaker 4: But that situation I don't have. But that's one thing I don't.
01:18:38
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm prideful, really like you don't.
01:18:41
Speaker 6: Feel like there's something that somebody could say that you feel like, Oh, this person is like you're trying to low ball me, You're trying to disrespect.
01:18:48
Speaker 4: I'm not who I am. I felt that and feel like I need.
01:18:52
Speaker 1: To know I felt that way at the ending of the thing. Is honestly like my my work, ethic, my ability to lead a team, all of the work that I had put in, I felt like was tried, and so there was an element that I felt like I had to defend myself. But two years later, I think the universe played a market what's happening there?
01:19:16
Speaker 4: Right?
01:19:16
Speaker 1: And so for me, I didn't let it corrupt me. My pride wasn't at a My pride wasn't so big that it led me to a wrath of a wrath of revenge, like my desire to revenge someone. It's funny because me and A King just had this conversation last week. I have a friend, an ex friend who I'm no longer friends with, and their intentionality in reaching out to almost everyone that I know over the last two weeks has been so odd. I feel like it's been temperature checking whether or not I'm blackballing her on the back end. And it's so funny because in seeing this, I'm just like, I've never been one to get in the way of anyone's money at the end of the day, like especially if you have kids, especially if there was a friendship there. I'm not someone who's gonna fuck on your nigga when we stop talking. I'm not someone who's gonna go and align with your enemy wants to start talk just to make you feel And what I'm also never gonna do is feel the need to go and tell everybody I don't fuck with this person. No more so don't let them in the room. I'm not that type of bitch. And what's crazy is people know I have the power to be and I've been petty enough to where I talk the shit, but I'm not doing that. And so in seeing this pride leading into maybe wrath or anger, I know, for me, I'm all about the money. And I'm also somebody that vividly and strongly believes that there's enough money to go around.
01:20:50
Speaker 4: There's enough money for all of us.
01:20:51
Speaker 1: To eat, and there's no reason for me to step in the line of anyone making money. I will say, I'm curious to know what happens with this big tickercase he is still on the air down here in Atlanta, he hasn't been removed off. I feel sorry for his co host if she really wasn't fucking William, because I would hate for that to be put on to me.
01:21:10
Speaker 5: That's the easiest thing if she If if the wife is you know, wants to put something on him, or maybe she's speculating.
01:21:17
Speaker 4: Because of whatever it is you see that.
01:21:19
Speaker 1: I can see that, well, that is the thing. Apparently in the phone he was messaging another woman, so there was some level of infidelity that led to allegedly.
01:21:28
Speaker 6: Well, the other part of it is is like if this and I don't want to I don't even want to go too far down this hole. But if this woman has if his wife has an insecurity or has certain issues her seeing text messages that can easily be benign, she might feel are threatening or are a little too friendly, or whatever the thing is.
01:21:53
Speaker 4: So I don't even want to go down that path too much.
01:21:55
Speaker 6: But all I would say is that this video that came out.
01:21:59
Speaker 4: I don't think that it absolves Tiger of anything.
01:22:02
Speaker 6: I don't think it necessarily fully convicts him of anything. I think that both lawyers on both sides are going to have arguments they're gonna have to make about this. It's interesting too, because I did see in different news elements they are charging him. They have him listed his charge with different things. Some say battery, some say aggravated assault.
01:22:24
Speaker 5: And it's very different meanings for those, which that's why I'm confused a little bit about what he's actually charged with.
01:22:30
Speaker 4: So I haven't seen the paper.
01:22:31
Speaker 1: Right, No, the charges are child cruelty and battery. And cruelty is because the child was there.
01:22:39
Speaker 6: But there's some news outlets like is this eleven alive? Yeah, so eleven Alive is saying that his charges include aggravated assault and cruelty to children.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: Oh well, aggravated assult is probably the battery charge.
01:22:51
Speaker 6: But here's the thing though, Aggravated assault is a very different charge than battery. Aggravated assault is normally you used a weapon. You had a gun, a bat, a knife, you know something that you So are they considering the door?
01:23:05
Speaker 1: Maybe the door?
01:23:06
Speaker 6: The weapon is the there's also assault is normally a threat. Assault isn't necessarily the physical. The physical act, if it's completed, is battery. If I say I'm a fuck you, I'm gonna kill you, that's assault. M If I punch you in your face, that's battery. So even the fact that there's this little confusion inside of the news articles, which I'm I don't know how that got through if everyone, and it.
01:23:31
Speaker 1: Sucks because the wife, Alicia Brown or yeah, I think that's her name, also came out and was like, guys, I never called him an abuser the internet.
01:23:39
Speaker 6: She said she felt bad from posting the video. It's it's a lot to deal with and so I don't know how this is gonna work.
01:23:46
Speaker 5: It's a lot of investigation.
01:23:49
Speaker 4: But ultimately, look his his We could land here because I know we.
01:23:52
Speaker 1: Land the plane. Yeah, we got two more topics.
01:23:54
Speaker 5: I hope that she gets the spiritual physical mental health that she the healing that she needs all parties. I hope the kid is safe, their children, ultimately, I do. I hope that her first child, you know, gets found. If the child is not with someone you know knowingly, and if and if that child is missing on her own relig missing if she doesn't want to be, I hope she stays gone. Well, I don't think that's the case because I saw a video where they have surveillance of a white suv that picked the kid up, and that was the last time she was seen. And the mother, according to the the video I saw, she owned the white suv. That fits the description. So look, if the child is with other family members, I hope that child. I hope the child is fine. I hope somehow that her father is able to see that daughter, because I'm pretty sure his heart is for years like that and there's no conclusive nothing about it.
01:24:51
Speaker 4: So I just hope all parties get the healing and the the the you know, the mentorship if that's the right, right coaching that they need, and the whole big tiger, same thing for him, and it's just a bad bad guys.
01:25:06
Speaker 5: We gotta make better decisions, y'all. Yeah, you gotta fellas. We gotta start practicing uh seeming retention. You gotta have some type of discipline.
01:25:15
Speaker 1: What what are we going with this?
01:25:18
Speaker 5: It's part of the part of this is very because we are not talking about the way.
01:25:27
Speaker 4: What do you think what do you think? Less is about the nuts.
01:25:30
Speaker 1: It's not about the nuts.
01:25:31
Speaker 4: I mean, it's part of it.
01:25:32
Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's just coming out like this.
01:25:35
Speaker 4: It's part of it. But you have to in these cases, these are the cases that we talked about.
01:25:41
Speaker 1: We're talking about that's the violence case about us.
01:25:46
Speaker 5: May accumulation of some of the stories we've been presenting. It goes back to the niggas being kidney. I'm saying, we gotta just reserve kidnapping.
01:25:59
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with se retention.
01:26:03
Speaker 6: We tried to out maybe that nigga need to hit that X videos one time and he would just ease his mind.
01:26:09
Speaker 5: Let me reverse. Maybe maybe hand self pleasure might be the solution. Some of these niggas are backed up and angry.
01:26:18
Speaker 1: Oh my gods, not for y'all. Yes, all right, well let's get into celebrities say the darness things. Now, I don't y'all y'all not getting a mon All right, y'all. So, Oprah Winfrey was recently at can Lions where she had a live podcast taping. So during a sit down at the Lumeeter, Oprah highlighted the responsibility of media and how strong an influence they have as a strong example, She used her extremely popular interview with Whitney Houston. Now this is a quote that she said, and we're gonna get in to it. She said, we did the whole thing, Hey girl, how you doing greeting thing? And then I stopped the cameras and I went behind the stage and I said, so tell me what do you want to happen here? And I'm going to tell you what I want to happen here, Winfrey said, And that was one of the most powerful interviews. Oprah went on to say that while Whitney wasn't high during the interview, she relapsed when she came back to perform for the audience, and according to her, she was so high that she fell off of the stage. I had such trust from the Oprah Show audience. I think it was the last show with us, and she had gone back on drugs, drugs, Winfrey said. The first interview I did with her, when we'd gone behind stage and I asked her about her intention, she was clean. But the day she came to my show then to perform in front of the audience, she was not, and she fell off the stage. Oprah says that she used her influence and trust in her audience and asked them not to release the images an incident because she knew that the story went out that it would destroy Houston. Now beyond that, Whitney's A State has since responded, and I want to read that. So Whitney's A State has come forward and said that bitch Oprah U line puss a hot No, of course not.
01:28:21
Speaker 4: So so.
01:28:27
Speaker 1: Ray, who is Whitney Houston's former bodyguard, spoke out and backed up the state's version of events, explaining that the whole situation boiled down to a simple accident and terrible stage lighting. He explained that Whitney was walking toward the front of the stage during production and literally just couldn't see where the platform ended. He claims that, quote unquote, no drugs were involved. Ray confirmed, completely shutting down the narrative that Whinney was under the influence or trying to deliver a performance. Now, I want to first ask y'all's thoughts on Oprah sharing this story and if or if not she had the right to. I do have a clip as well of Monique sharing her thoughts. Because ironically the universe was funny and Oprah ended up falling performance. You get what you've done as so damn I'd love to know your thoughts on this.
01:29:30
Speaker 6: I'm sill about this the same way I feel about last week when take Keith passed away and the next day it's all he what's his name?
01:29:40
Speaker 4: Sex? He read?
01:29:41
Speaker 1: Owes him money?
01:29:43
Speaker 4: What does this serve?
01:29:44
Speaker 6: Whitney is not here no more, she can't defend herself against any of this. What was this story an example of? Like it sounded to me like you were essentially making Whitney look bad so that you could big up yourself to be like oh, and I told him, don't put the pictures out and they never did. And I'm Oprah Winfrey and I'm powerful and I was able to stop this from happening.
01:30:03
Speaker 4: Like so the fuck? What? Like who cares?
01:30:06
Speaker 6: Like, we know you're Oprah Winfrey. I don't understand what the context of this story is too. Now I'm one of them people who I'm not on that don't speak.
01:30:15
Speaker 4: Ill of the dead.
01:30:16
Speaker 6: Like to me, if you were a fucked up person while you're here, then that's how people are going to talk about you.
01:30:22
Speaker 4: But this isn't that case. This is an unwarranted story.
01:30:25
Speaker 6: Out of nowhere, just for no real particular reason, I don't get with you.
01:30:30
Speaker 4: What was she trying? What information was she trying to give us with this?
01:30:34
Speaker 1: Well, the conversation was how media plays a big role in the influence and things like that. That was literally the premise. And I do want to say, while I fuck with you, John, I so hardly disagree with this, only because we know how Whitney Houston passed. Sure, no one has complained about the many biopics made about what and her battle with drugs and so to me, if you were battling any sort of addiction, if you were battling any sort of depression, if you were battling any sort of anything while you were alive, and I had an experience with you that stayed with me, I'm able to talk on it because it was a real experience. And what I'm not doing is sharing anything about you that everyone didn't already know. Like so, I understand taking a secret to the grave, right, but in this essence, it wasn't a secret that Whitney Houston battled drugs and so Oprah sharing an incident with this person, I don't feel like she's not at any way able to share her experience with a addict battling person such as Winnie Houston, and if she's saying I sat down with her, she was clean for the interview, but when she came back for the performance it was obviously was a relapse. And then the estate coming out saying lighting is why she falled off the stage. But I have been on a lot of stages. That's a long fall off a lot of them to blame. But to blame lighting is just like now, mind you, it is I don't know, falling off on the same and I want you to know.
01:32:21
Speaker 5: Those Just the other day, one of the Jackson brothers was singing Michael's part and he fell off the ship.
01:32:28
Speaker 1: Yes, but what else happens all the time is realizing when someone is not like when they're not in their right mind, and when you see someone who is sober or clearly not intoxicated, and then you see them again and they are I think that as people we know. And I don't know what relationship Oprah had with Whitney, but if she had been present during this battle and had spent time around her and Bobby, or had spent time around her and seeing the sober to not sober, to sober to not sober. I also don't want to take it away that Oprah may not have known or wouldn't know whether she relapsed or not in this moment. And if that's her, if that's her telling of this sense, fuck the Internet for feeling like Oprah can't speak her truth or her scenario of an incident that happened with someone who passed.
01:33:23
Speaker 6: My issue isn't necessarily the drugs. I think we all know Whitney was on drugs. What I'm saying is, when you're telling this story, what, like if the topic was how the media controls narratives, what does this story have to do with a controlled media?
01:33:40
Speaker 1: That's so you're missing that point. But she literally said, because of my power and because I know how it would have impacted her career at the time for those videos to go out, I made sure that it didn't go out, so no one in the audience sure really.
01:33:53
Speaker 4: Know she was on drugs. You didn't save us from knowing that Whitney was.
01:33:56
Speaker 1: On But whatever time frame it was, it would have had whatever negative impacts on her. And what she's saying is as a as a media personality with a huge influence, I didn't let this go out to be fair, it's the same way I just spoke about you weren't there but a king I shared if you guys go to Patreon a conversation I had with some good friends of mine and how the conversation led in a way that I'm gonna edit it before it gets And I did that because not only would it make them look away, would make maybe us look away. There's a bad narrative that could be spewed from a conversation, and so out of respect, I'm editing that out right right.
01:34:38
Speaker 6: But if that person passed away, you probably wouldn't go talk about it after they passed away and then tell the story of the thing that you said.
01:34:48
Speaker 4: It depends.
01:34:50
Speaker 5: It depends if you edited it you didn't want nobody to know, didn't Let if oprahview saved her from that, then let that be that.
01:34:56
Speaker 4: Nah.
01:34:57
Speaker 5: But look, here's the thing. She's doing a live pop cast. Ye in podcasting, we tell stories.
01:35:03
Speaker 4: It may not.
01:35:03
Speaker 5: I don't think I think this is this is a case of fake outrage. Again, I agree, I don't think there was nothing inflammatory about her telling the story about this lady falling off a thing. She her interpretation of her of what she suspects that could be questionable because in her land, she probably put her in about she probably high again yet drunk.
01:35:23
Speaker 4: We don't know that.
01:35:24
Speaker 5: We can't confirm that she felt she had an incident cool she didn't. She chose to not relinquish to put out the pictures. And I think today she's telling the story about that in terms of she used her power and discernment to say, you know what, I fucked with my girl.
01:35:41
Speaker 4: That bitch just high. I'm a chill. I'm not gonna put that out there because it's gam piling on, right. But I don't have a problem with her telling the story.
01:35:49
Speaker 1: I say, because we know she was high out her mind had.
01:35:53
Speaker 5: The problem with us, And I said, the community at large, it's a clip. How many of these people that in these comments, just like with us when we put out ship, find the long form version of it so you can get contexts because we're all smart, right, we all right cursive, right, and.
01:36:14
Speaker 4: Guys like all right, Yeah.
01:36:16
Speaker 5: I think it's because Oprah telling the story about Whitney, people like, oh my god.
01:36:20
Speaker 1: And you know what, I also believe. I believe, not like Oprah.
01:36:23
Speaker 4: I do believe. Yeah, they don't. If you don't like I bet you before they even hit play, they you know.
01:36:28
Speaker 1: You know, you know. I had to learn that. So through the discourse of Monique and many other people speaking out against this, the response that I saw was Oprah only tells these type of damaging story about black people. We never hear her talk down.
01:36:43
Speaker 4: On the I never heard the sixty minutes of the interview. But let's hear an interview.
01:36:47
Speaker 5: Then we have a collective conversation about the entire sixty minutes, not that clip. The clip was an idea of like, okay, cool, But I don't think it's to that point where we're like.
01:36:56
Speaker 4: Oh, fuck that bitch.
01:36:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, but people have had problems Oprah for a long time, with various of course, But I do believe that I don't.
01:37:04
Speaker 8: I believe, Hey, Upra girl, I like you. I want to be your friend with you and Kale.
01:37:09
Speaker 4: What's the number six? What's the number five? Agreed? Agree with four? Four? That's that she's leaning into number four? No, no, no, what's what's what's greed? What number three?
01:37:23
Speaker 1: Let me tell you right now, me wanted to be friends with Oprah has little to do with the money that she has, because I don't look at people in that way. But who she has been in terms of how she's elevated herself throughout her career, the roles that she played in not only daytime television and being a woman that could interview and lead a talk show, but she's played roles in movies, and she has a network like to be up and and for me Right now, I'm looking up to the Rays, the Marl Brocker kills, the the quintin Brunson's right. But Oprah was all of that before. I didn't say Jaylen is over.
01:38:02
Speaker 4: It's over it wait for Game two of the NBA season.
01:38:10
Speaker 5: I heard you say that about Game one the rings.
01:38:14
Speaker 4: You gotta do the whole function all over again. Can't wars the game too?
01:38:17
Speaker 6: When it gets be regular basketball, Get back to regular life, Atlanta.
01:38:21
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something started getting delivered to the.
01:38:25
Speaker 1: Can I tell y'all, old lady again the way I wanted this Trader Joe's bag of the Knicks, and I don't even be carrying bags. Don't wait, you didn't see the Trader Joe's grocery bag for the Knicks. Everyone went, But then they were way more expensive than I thought, because like three dollars to check out.
01:38:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little yeah, yeah it ship.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: Look oh wait, look there we go.
01:38:52
Speaker 4: We put it up.
01:38:53
Speaker 1: Look we can you know, we can order it. Look at that waits only sixteen ninety five. Now, oh, this looks like a only available. They sold the design.
01:39:02
Speaker 4: Of course they did.
01:39:03
Speaker 1: They sold the design, but it's it's really dope. No no, yeah, go to this one. There we go. Look at how dope that is they are?
01:39:10
Speaker 5: They only were they only available at New York Trader Joe's.
01:39:13
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you could buy it online. So I was gonna buy open it, but I thought they were going to be the cost of the regular Trader Joe's grocery back. Yeah, and they were twenty bucks instead of.
01:39:21
Speaker 5: The four of I tried to go on the sneaker app and get the cement threes the Nick colorway, and I was in there filling out the information and I hit the button and I was like, why this shit stuck it just and I said, all right, let me refresh.
01:39:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh cool, Yeah.
01:39:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to our last topic of the day. I don't think we'll get to any conversation. I mean, maybe we'll be able to finish if we get through this quickly. So Lizzo recently complained about the lack of support from her label after her record sales were published. Now I do want to read this, She took What's Twitter to say, I actually can answer. So basically, someone said, Lizo not having a fan base is so weird to me when this woman literally was selling out arenas not even two years ago. Where did those people go? I did also attend her concert at Madison Square Garden where a lot of opened up for her phenomenal Let me just say that I was thoroughly impressed and enjoyed the Lizo concert at MSc. Shout out to Dre Davis. So Lizo responded, I actually can answer this. The industry changed so much in the last three years, streaming and replaced radio, and I was a radio darling. That's how my fans discovered my music. Not to mention the very obvious and public attack on my career changed things. But I'm out here doing my absolute best and you can't knock a bitch for that now.
01:40:59
Speaker 5: Thanks thoughts, music industry has changed how we purchase music. No one buys music anymore, and if they do, those are the hardcore purest fans. We talked about this and even in the podcast and media space, you have to do five thousand things to get the one thing off. And I think that's what artists, even successful artists, are realizing now. Because the label structures have changed, marketing and promo departments have been dissolved, so the emphasis to work a record is not the same anymore. So you're not going to see the result that she probably is used to. So what she has to do, in my opinion, I won't give away all the source, but there's ways around it. You have to look at how what determines a successful record has to change mentally, like how we view it. Also, there's a value to dealing with your consumer in the customer, your community right, catering to it, developing and catering to the community right and start there. You have to I'll be the department that was dissolved in Atlantic. I believe she has to be that department herself. Now she has to put invest in a team of people that's going to do the things that the label used to do for her any other access on the label.
01:42:13
Speaker 4: And that's not her problem.
01:42:14
Speaker 5: That is how the industry is at large because we have got into a world of streaming, and we're still trying to figure this shit out.
01:42:20
Speaker 4: As the metrics of it. I think, and I say that because she's not the only one.
01:42:25
Speaker 1: I think you are providing. Lizzo bumbell here me.
01:42:29
Speaker 4: Maybe here, maybe hear me. But I'm speaking to a larger issue. Though she just today's she's today.
01:42:36
Speaker 1: That could be a larger issue. However, Court of public opinion strikes again. That's actually, let's do that as the title. Court of Public Opinions strikes again.
01:42:52
Speaker 4: That's the title.
01:42:53
Speaker 1: So Lizzo, unfortunately, who came into the space as this big, voluptuous body positivity queen who said I'm healthy, I could do saxophone, I could run, I'm healthy, but I love my big black body, unfortunately was sued by the dancers from her television show, where they claimed not only sexual assault where she was forcing them to eat I don't know, Banana's out of fucking strippers, pussies and Thailand or some shit they also were. They also were accusing her of unabashedly shaming their body during the pro and so the lawsuits stem from like a hostile work environment, sexual harassment, all these things that once a woman of power and esteem is accused of, especially to other women.
01:43:57
Speaker 4: It's kind of tricky.
01:43:59
Speaker 1: The other thing that took place after being accused of all these, the dismissal of the lawsuit wasn't as loud as the actual lawsuit filed. First off, second off doing the same since every clip that we saw was though she was dropping pounds, So whether she was eating less, whether she was on the fucking tranzeppetige ozimpicjero, golp one, whatever she used. It got to the part where the people that connected to her as a big woman being proud to be big. It changed into I don't know I see myself and her anymore either, because now she's losing the weight. Now maybe she wasn't happy to be a big bitch now like she doesn't speak for me now, I no longer relate to her. And in being a radio darling and getting all of these big hits, what we talk about in podcasting, which has been a big thing for us, is growing an audience that will support you through growth, Growing an audience and people that rock with you through your albums. It's why I'm such a huge stand up j Cole. I've been with that Nigga a long time because he grew a fan base that wants to see him win. When you come out the gate as a radio darling, who is your core audience? To me, your core audience is big black women who are into body positivity and feminism. No, let's be very clear and guess what. Guess what you lose. You lose that when women are suing you for sexual assault and body shaming, and you lose it when you start to lose weight, Like there's the people wealth hold.
01:45:38
Speaker 6: On well, and I'm like, this is no funny. It was still a big girl, like not weight, but she's still a big girl.
01:45:46
Speaker 1: You ready? You ready? I am one hundred and fifty pounds mm hmm. There's a part of the internet that constantly talks about my weight, my chin count, my account, all the things. No, but but hear me out. I am over eighty pounds less than what I've been. And guess what I didn't get to do as I started losing weight. Guess who kicked me out the BBW community. So in terms of me speaking as a big girl and how society viewed me as to the men that I should or could or would be, the way that I expressed myself sexually, the ways in which I move about the industry are and were constantly questioned because of my size, right, and so as I lost weight, there became the split of men in certain people who view size a certain way completely still being like, well, you're a big bitch. Who's fucking you? Who's claiming you? You don't have a husband because you're a big bitch? How could you have an opinion as a bitch that looks like that? Because E thoughts, y'all, y'all, y'all are now collaborated with me on a lot of things. They say a lot of nasty things. However, in terms of me speaking for big women, they kicked me.
01:47:13
Speaker 5: Out because you could you health because you want to fucking breathe and without.
01:47:19
Speaker 1: A they don't well. And they they took away me being comfortable in my own body because I didn't stay two hundred and thirty pounds and because I'm now like maintaining my weight eight years after a gastric sleeve surgery. And what sucks is you don't get to be body positive and lose weight. If you guys want to see there's a documentary on HBO Tricky it's tricky. It's coffee dice. No yeah, no, no, no, it's tricky because there's a level of fetishism, kink.
01:47:53
Speaker 4: Content with big women, right.
01:47:56
Speaker 1: But the way that they even treat you when you gain weight, yeah, I mean it is terrible. And so like if Lizzo would have been someone who is body positive who continued to get bigger, I think that would have been tricky too.
01:48:12
Speaker 4: I mean, here's what I say about Lizzo, I mean, and some of that could be true.
01:48:16
Speaker 6: I think that the reason Lizzo didn't sell no records this time around is because, by.
01:48:21
Speaker 1: The way, it's pair p E A R. Sorry Paradise, but it's something about hold on, let me get the actual documentary, because y'all know I do like talking documentaries. Here a pair like like what the Rick Ross said, pair pair Paradise. You spelt that wrong, too big? There you go, Big girls wanted escaping Paradise.
01:48:48
Speaker 4: Big girls wanted escaping.
01:48:50
Speaker 1: It is a documentary of a very very wealthy execut in Hollywood who, during the pandemic, was like, I like women five hundred pounds plus and if you don't feel wanted or desired, come here to my mansion. This is a safe space.
01:49:09
Speaker 4: And kind of board. They have not a lot.
01:49:13
Speaker 1: So apparently there's also a place in Vegas where he there's a routine. It's called a heart attack or look it up, look up heart attack. So apparently if you weigh over five hundred pounds you get to eat for free. But there's a scale there where you go, yes.
01:49:34
Speaker 4: And you have you got to meet the mark.
01:49:37
Speaker 1: Heart attack grill and if you live, if you weigh over five hundred pounds, you get to eat for free and it's a gluttonous. Oh damn, somebody died, I know you ready. During the dock people pass away for their weights and so it gets tricky in that. But anyways, I mean we all, I mean a lot of people are also into my six hundred pound life. Nonetheless, nonetheless, there's a huge conversation around what her core group or audience looks like, and that's what you're about to get to.
01:50:09
Speaker 6: Like, yes, I think that you know, the body positivity. I think that was a big part of her marketing of her building her public image of like this is what I'm about, this is what I'm into.
01:50:20
Speaker 4: But like, let's be.
01:50:21
Speaker 6: Clear, Lizzo's music was most deaf, like so many SKUs music, like the way most they've talked about Drenk, like she did pop music. She did music for Target and Walmart and Abercrombus, like she did pop music that was honestly like mainly attracted to white people. Like I don't think that. I'm not saying that Lizzo doesn't have any Black fans.
01:50:50
Speaker 1: There were a few scattered at the contry.
01:50:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I don't think that Liz.
01:50:53
Speaker 6: I don't think that her main audience of people who are going out loving Lizzos pinding the money were like the black community.
01:51:00
Speaker 4: D I don't know.
01:51:00
Speaker 6: I don't know that Lizzo ever had a song that resonated with the black community in a way that was like super hyper cultural where it's not a big pop record for everybody, this is a black ass song. And when she started doing black ass songs, niggas didn't like them. Shit, I actually like they were it.
01:51:17
Speaker 4: Was a whole song.
01:51:19
Speaker 6: I'm not against that, but I'm just saying like people weren't as into that music as they know as her big pop anthems, Like.
01:51:27
Speaker 5: That's what made her and that's the marketing promo I was talking about. But not even the label was marketing that to that, But what was the.
01:51:33
Speaker 1: The label was? But wait, you said something really big. So even in the comments, someone mentioned it. She ended up being political during the presidential campaign, and she literally publicly stated, if you're voting for Trump, don't listen to my music no more. And you're saying that her audience, there was a lot of why white women at that and we know where they leave because we's heard they would give up their vote.
01:52:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, these conservative white women are driving around in these minivans and mammy mobiles and they craking that ship.
01:52:07
Speaker 4: I feel good as hell all that ship. That ship.
01:52:10
Speaker 1: Why did you just sound like her?
01:52:15
Speaker 4: So it's like they love that music. They don't know.
01:52:17
Speaker 6: They didn't know anything about Lizzo's political leanings and none of that ship. They were just listening to this pop music and it was hyper poppy, and they love that ship.
01:52:26
Speaker 1: Her latest album is titled Bitch by the Way, which I also don't think helps someone who has dealt with but I mean with marketing pushback for horrible decisions for so many years. I think titling an album bitch keeps you from billboards in Times Square, keeps you from certain marketing things keeps you from maybe daytime television.
01:52:50
Speaker 8: Mind you, you're Lizzo, but isn't special.
01:52:54
Speaker 1: But it isn't special. This is the word bitch. Yeah, even don't love violent.
01:53:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't want to support that.
01:53:02
Speaker 1: And so but it's not even that it's Lizzo. You made this title. It's why we titled our book No Holds Barred. I was like, and we still got pushed back because.
01:53:11
Speaker 4: The whole holes right, you.
01:53:13
Speaker 1: Can't have sexually explicit or or or words.
01:53:19
Speaker 4: That controversial words, controversial.
01:53:21
Speaker 1: Words that this is profanity.
01:53:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is this is an.
01:53:25
Speaker 1: Album that you're trying to push after your debut album from twenty twenty two, which by the way, debuted at number two with thirty nine thousand pure copies sold. Lizzo's recent album, that was released at the top of the month June fifth, sold only twenty six hundred copies in its first week.
01:53:46
Speaker 4: What was the single even for this song? So I don't even know what this what was? What was?
01:53:49
Speaker 1: I don't know?
01:53:50
Speaker 4: No one knows.
01:53:51
Speaker 5: And that's the other part hit record here everything even with all her body positivity, even with all the people that I'm talking about, the white if the record came out and with some type of.
01:53:59
Speaker 4: Sem done about it.
01:54:03
Speaker 5: But the thing is too uh, you know, the music should always somewhat reflect the times we're living in and for her to be now on her third album because of all the things that she had attached to her, she hasn't put a record that transcended to connected uh to those audiences, right.
01:54:21
Speaker 1: I will, I was glad.
01:54:23
Speaker 4: It's just more than's more. Yeah, but it's just more more of the same.
01:54:27
Speaker 5: So now it's like what she's not doing records from a perspective that's relatable to your point before relatable content, right, So that could be a big part.
01:54:36
Speaker 4: Of it too.
01:54:36
Speaker 5: And she's she has a lot of ship on her that you mentioned that she hasn't she should talk.
01:54:46
Speaker 4: Please join us on selective people were people were invested in that.
01:54:49
Speaker 1: I would love to have the conversation because I do think you're right. I think from a and we're in a in a room where people want to know the person. Are you accountable? Are you apologetic? Do we have you confused as a person?
01:55:04
Speaker 5: You know how many people would love to say to hear her say or anyone y'all fucked up? I'm a human that's like you fucked up yesterday. Well, not only that, the only difference is she's a celebrity. We don't know the regular person, right.
01:55:14
Speaker 1: No, we're looking at boss women unfortunately too from a lens of people looking to attack. We'll talk about this another time, or maybe I'll bring this up on a bonus episode. Kylie Jenner is being sued by like the third person that's worked for her. There's a woman that got hired while she was pregnant who endured a miscarriage. She is suing Kylie Jenner for the miscarriage, saying that it was a hot and she was overworked and that led to her miscarriage. And so unfortunately, when you are also a person a power of money, of we see people go after checks all the time. And so the fact that this case was dropped, but it wasn't made a big deal that it was dropped, She's been held to the fire of public opinion.
01:56:01
Speaker 5: You got to be loud in the in the in the solution, you know, just as loud as he was with the accusation.
01:56:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, it's it's crazy. It sucks. Uh, we're not going to get to get to I mean, honestly, y'all didn't watch BTT Awards. I did.
01:56:17
Speaker 4: Just want to say clips.
01:56:19
Speaker 1: If you haven't yet, the tribute to Laurne Hill phenomenal by far, one of the best tributes I've seen at US.
01:56:27
Speaker 4: Performance. Phenomenal, uh Duran Bernard, common.
01:56:33
Speaker 1: Wash, it was common queen lative, doja cat Sizza dochi with I think came out.
01:56:48
Speaker 4: I think that was for the Angel.
01:56:51
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was incredible, no notes. She came out and if you guys can re listen to it, I saw a clip that compared or referenced Lauren Hill singing X Factor as a way that Americans can be living here and I do listen. I'm just gonna pull it up real quick because I.
01:57:14
Speaker 4: Was having a debate about her again. Oh you know what, you can be considered the greatest nigga when you're a special motherfucker. You don't need eighteen albums. She dropped that one because that was so incredible.
01:57:26
Speaker 1: Thirty see it.
01:57:28
Speaker 5: I said the same thing because they said, oh, what about artist, But I was gonna.
01:57:33
Speaker 6: Say, uh, Ray Daniels and Mickey Fax and then we're having that same talking niggas in there talking about the boy he didn't do this, He only had this many verses and.
01:57:43
Speaker 5: About that a good book is a great book, is a great book. And their life is that the rules don't apply to everybody, don't.
01:57:52
Speaker 4: That's just what.
01:57:54
Speaker 1: I'm gonna says the point, Huncleberry fit, we still want to read certain It's like y'all can respect bosk Art this many years later, if y'all can respect like you literature. I don't understand why they're.
01:58:09
Speaker 4: We need we we we have enough.
01:58:11
Speaker 5: We could keep going back over and over and over again because it was so great. It was dense, and you're gonna go through that ship a million times and get different things.
01:58:18
Speaker 1: I want to play this real quick.
01:58:20
Speaker 4: Who was that work?
01:58:23
Speaker 1: Okay, listen to the words. It's a battle loving America bab kid surpasity.
01:59:04
Speaker 4: She's a Gemini.
01:59:05
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm glad she didn't do another album.
01:59:15
Speaker 1: I want to read this.
01:59:16
Speaker 5: You have to recognize that about yourself that no, I don't have, I don't have My job is complete. There, that's it.
01:59:25
Speaker 1: And someone said that Lauren Hill's X factor perfectly mirrors our people's relationship with America, and suddenly every lyric feels heavier a love that never stopped being loved despite the pain, a loyalty that wasn't always returned, A relationship filled with hope, sacrifice, disappointment, and the constant question of whether the feeling was ever truly mutual. Maybe that's why the song continues to resonate decades later. The greatest art often ends up speaking to something much bigger than what it was originally written about, and viewed through that lens X factor hits completely differently. Now, mind you, this is actually from the Global Citizen live in Rio. This was that actual audio, and what I just read came from Welcome to the Culture.
02:00:14
Speaker 4: When did this album come out? Mis Education Laura nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, thirty years.
02:00:22
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is it was the late nineties for sure. So the thing is, you see how relatable this shit is to today. That's why she don't need another album ninety eight, right, That's why she don't need another album because it resonates today, It resonated then, it resonates today.
02:00:38
Speaker 4: That's timeless, bro.
02:00:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, And she gave us her fucking mona, Lisa in her album.
02:00:43
Speaker 1: She gave us hermona.
02:00:46
Speaker 5: Hey, you motherfuckers need to just accept it. Don't tell me about Oh she'd be late.
02:00:51
Speaker 4: The fuck? So what everybody be late? We was late, y'all was y'all? Fuck, don't fuck me a lightning.
02:00:59
Speaker 5: But you could be late, but you could be laying great. Great, You can be laying great. Sometimes you was late because you was preparing to be great.
02:01:09
Speaker 6: When you die, they call you the late and sometimes.
02:01:16
Speaker 1: Oh y'all not getting this? Yeah, hold on.
02:01:24
Speaker 10: Because people like paid their heart and money for her to show and give them a full show. So whenever she doesn't show up, I think it comes in between like her.
02:01:34
Speaker 1: The respect that people have for.
02:01:35
Speaker 10: Her, half for her. I do think she has had a couple.
02:01:39
Speaker 4: They'll get over it.
02:01:40
Speaker 10: It's fine, Sure, it's.
02:01:41
Speaker 4: Fine, it's fine.
02:01:42
Speaker 10: I think she is talented and amazing and like legend.
02:01:45
Speaker 4: She is a god for sure.
02:01:48
Speaker 1: But those are things that could be true.
02:01:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying we don't have to keep saying that ship she keeps she hadn't been late, she just been great.
02:02:02
Speaker 1: No, she hasn't been great lately.
02:02:03
Speaker 4: Sometimes it wanted to be great.
02:02:04
Speaker 1: You got to meet you, mind you during the beat towards everyone was like, is Lauren Hill even president?
02:02:10
Speaker 4: She see her tribute?
02:02:13
Speaker 2: I love?
02:02:13
Speaker 11: That's crazy, right, but I think it's over usage now.
02:02:18
Speaker 4: It's like this she does over the last I would say seven years that haven't been a thing. No, no, no, yeah, I was gonna last and sixty and then I will.
02:02:33
Speaker 1: I will stick up for her yet again.
02:02:36
Speaker 5: Bulls gave grace to Marion and these niggas on fucking.
02:02:41
Speaker 1: Was behind last year. In essence, she was late, but that was not her fault. I do also want to say, leading into fourth of July weekend, I will be in New Orleans essence year. If you are out and about, please speak to me, say hi, all the things before we leave out too. Not to make it dark. I want to send my prayers and wishes and miracle angels over to Chris Johnson.
02:03:18
Speaker 4: Oh.
02:03:20
Speaker 1: CJ is someone I know from Orlando. I've known him for oh my god, I don't know fifteen years plus. Chris Johnson was a former player on the Tennessee Titans. He used to go by CJ two K. He was a phenomenal athlete who recently just went on Good Morning America and shared with Michael Strahan that he is battling als. Yep, thirty nine years old, the father of four children, married to Britt. I'm so glad that he has you in his circle, in his realm right now. His former teammate reached out to me and is like, he's been crying all day. I don't want to cry. It's just sad.
02:04:03
Speaker 4: He's thirty nine.
02:04:05
Speaker 1: He literally right now, if you guys watched the Good Morning America interview, he's talking with his eyes. Technology is allowing him to talk through him, like looking at letters on a screen. He can't talk. He can't talk, he can't move. This he has a case of sporadic als, which did not run in his family. Is not genetic. It happened, and he's declined drastically. Looking at his social media, he stopped posting in June, this is also a lot to see he can't talk. We've had so many conversations over the last years. He's been wanting to pod. He came to my studio New York. He's tapping in with me to podcast. So to see that he literally cannot talk at thirty nine years old is really hard. So if y'all could send prayers, best of wishes, all the things to Chris Johnson and his family that would be great. Other than that, Friday, me and my girl Keiki from Cocktails Podcast will be going over all things bab Listen, listen.
02:05:18
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
02:05:19
Speaker 1: If you guys want to hear my thoughts on the B two K versus Pretty Ricky that went down last Thursday, I'm talking about it with a girl because I don't know if y'all can really give it up like I want to give it up about can y'all cannot?
02:05:33
Speaker 4: I cannot. I know who I am and I cannot give it up. You cannot.
02:05:37
Speaker 1: But also, y'all weren't connected to Pretty Ricky and B two K the way that you never had. Yeah, so I brought in reinforcements to have the discussion.
02:05:51
Speaker 4: Versus to did you hear that?
02:05:54
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all heard so. Right when they go to start singing honey and people were texted me and shout out to the discord for noticing it. As they started Honey and Spectacular pulled out the chair pleasure p literally was like, hey, man, ain't nobody spitting no honey and no bound.
02:06:12
Speaker 4: During this performance?
02:06:14
Speaker 1: Is literally said, none of that is happening, but it was hilarious. Shout out to Spectacular Pleasure, Pee, Baby Blue, Pretty Ricky and Slick them best setting condolences and wishes to you and your journey as well. But anyways, yeah, if y'all want to hear that.
02:06:30
Speaker 4: I got one last thing.
02:06:31
Speaker 5: I noticed something before about the story with the girl that took the trash can when yo, me and D pulled up what she got going on?
02:06:39
Speaker 1: What she got going on?
02:06:40
Speaker 5: Yo?
02:06:41
Speaker 4: She has a podcast? She doesn't? Yes, she does, wait for the podcast.
02:06:48
Speaker 1: Oh you're not.
02:06:50
Speaker 4: Pull it up again? Talk about you? The name of the fight and everything.
02:06:54
Speaker 1: Wait a second, he pulled that up, Yo. Her name was Angie Bias.
02:06:59
Speaker 4: Podcast I'm talking about. I think it was.
02:07:03
Speaker 5: It was on another platform that had when we were trying to figure out what her name was. It was there saying oh, she's such and such and such. She has a podcast called about this, that and the.
02:07:11
Speaker 1: Third where is it that? No, that's.
02:07:18
Speaker 4: If you go back to her that the so go back to that profile that that was there.
02:07:30
Speaker 1: Maybe you saw a podcaster it was this.
02:07:33
Speaker 4: It was it was on ship. It was on the Google search that came.
02:07:37
Speaker 1: We're looking for y'all, Caul. Y'all can look up Angie, she gonna need your podcast. Listen.
02:07:41
Speaker 5: There we go, the unconscious bias that I actually really liked that name. Well she might be say she got all the time in the world.
02:07:51
Speaker 1: Now, the unconscious bias.
02:07:53
Speaker 5: I actually believe that's a hard She ain't got no active episode.
02:08:00
Speaker 1: No no, no, let me read this. Oh no, that's not her. That's an MMA fighter. I don't know.
02:08:09
Speaker 4: Well, hey, you got time on your hands.
02:08:11
Speaker 1: I really like that.
02:08:11
Speaker 4: I let Mandy B.
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