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experienced specialists at Johnson Taylor. More information follows this episode.
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What if your entire career comes down to just one
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moment where you decide it's time to speak up for yourself.
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I'm Joe Taylor Junior. This is Search and Replace Cleopatra.
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Papa Zacherru says her early family life didn't fully prepare
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her for the kind of big decisions she'd have to
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make as an adult. In fact, it only got her
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ready for a few very specific things.
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Being a girl and an immigrant family growing up Greek.
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They didn't have a lot of expectations for us at all.
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You grow up, you get married, you have babies. It's
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my big sid Greek fan, my big fat Greek wedding.
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I mean, it's the story of my life, it really is.
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I remember the very first time somebody told me I
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couldn't do something, and that feeling a hat on the
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inset of who are you to tell me what I
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can I can't do because I don't even know what
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I can I can't do at the time. As weirdly
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as it is to say it like this, it was
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almost forced.
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Upon me right Cleopatra found herself facing a challenge that
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really none of us ever expect, no matter what our
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lives were like growing up.
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I was in a situation where it was either due
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or not die. But it was kind of a drastic
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situation in my personal life. We were pretty poor at
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the time. My ex husband at the time had made
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some rather poor decisions for the family. Power was off.
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We didn't have any food in the fridge. We couldn't
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pay the bills. I only had a restaurant background, hotel background,
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you know, I think out at the time, it was
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only making like ten bucks an hour. Both of us
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were unemployed. It was really tough, so I had to
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get out there and find a job. I didn't know
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what to do. I ended up taking a role as
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a receptionist making ten bucks an hour. That I had
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a drive an hour each way for five days a week,
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working four hours a day didn't make any sense logically, right,
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You'd say that the gas money, the daycare. It seems
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like it would be lopsided, so financially it seems like
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a silly move. But I thought, who knows what it
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could lead to.
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Seizing that opportunity set Cleopatra down a path that really
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would change her life in the long run.
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It ended up being that the agency that I was
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working for was hiring internally, and I raised my hand
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one day and I thought, you're hiring and you didn't
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call me, like you know, I'm looking for work. And
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at the moment, I'd never ever raised my hand for
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anything like that before. I don't know where it came from,
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but something rose up in me and said, girl, you
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need to say something, because you need to eat. I
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went in for the interview, and I was on the
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thirtieth floor of the High Rais in downtown Milwaukee. And
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the lady that I was interviewing with, I don't know
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if you've seen that TV show Suits where they have
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like those crisp suits in downtown the address of the nine.
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They're so intimidating. Well, she's interviewing me and ask me
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all these tough questions. I don't know how to answer them.
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But she's like doing her hair in the window behind me,
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and I'm just like, oh, this is bombing, Like this
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is going awful. So as I'm walking out the door
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and knowing I wasn't getting the job, I looked her
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in the eyes. I'm shaking her hand, and I said, look,
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I know it. I'll have a type of personality, but
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I know I can do this show if you just
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give me a chance.
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She did.
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I thought that was the moment that I lost the job.
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It ended up being the moment that she said, yeah,
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she's going to get it. That year, I started off
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as a recruiter who was making thirty five thousand a year,
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from ten bucks an hour to thirty five thousand, just
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like that. Mind you, I was a good Greek girl, right,
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So I didn't go to school, I didn't get my degree.
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I'll let him do it. So I made thirty five
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thousand that first year. I netted seventy five K with
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commissions and everything. Within a few years made it to
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six figures. I've never looked back.
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That six figure career that Cleopatra landed all has to
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do with helping other people find their ideal jobs.
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What I've done since then, in what twenty some years,
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is build a career in the staffing basically working every
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single role, every vertical except for engineering and science. You
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don't want me doing that. And I have been a
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part of so many people's career stories. So all the
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things that my parents couldn't do. I'm out there helping
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other people do it, and it is the story of
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my life, and it is the passion of my life.
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And who knew because I took a ten dollars temp job,
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That ten dollars temp job for me eventually led to
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where I'm a single mom now and I was able
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to get out of a gnarly situation. And I've been
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able to help others do that, Like I have a
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gal that never made more than eight bucks an hour
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in her life and is now the director of business
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Analytics for a firm in downtown New York City managing
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global software developers QA teams offshore on shore Like she
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doesn't have a degree either. She worked her way up
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from a receptionist just like I did, and she surpassed me,
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like she's crushing it. I have people that are project
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managers that are now CIOs, so I look at it
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from both perspectives. My candidates today are my hiring managers tomorrow,
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So I get to see the dream from both sides.
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People that come in today as a candidate, and I
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get to put them in the job of.
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Their dreams now when they're in those roles, I get
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to help them build a department of their dreams and
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help them make those jobs their dreams and make that
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position their dream.
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Cleopatra says that making the kind of human connection she
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forged with her job interviewer in that office building all
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those years ago is crucial for anyone looking to change
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careers today.
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I'm lucky because I've had some pretty good mentors. And
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I heard somebody say once mentorship is good, it's great,
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it's awesome, But who's your sponsor in life? Who's your
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sponsor at work? So I think about that a lot,
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and who can I want? Doris? Can I kick down
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for somebody to help them get to where they want
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to get to. My daddy used to always say, You're
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reputation walks into the room before you do, so make
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sure it's got good things to say about you. So
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try to walk with integrity everywhere I go. Because it
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is a small world. People know you, and if you
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think about karma and try to do all the right
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things as much as you can, that things come back
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to you. There are moments where I sit back and
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I feel like I'm watching myself and I'm like, oh God,
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I'm really doing this, and it is the coolest feeling
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in the world. And I really love my job, and
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I love the people around me, and what I find
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the most satisfaction in is seeing them succeed. I used
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to say I want to see my name up in lights.
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I don't care anymore. I want to see yours and
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yours and yours, and I want to see them make
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more money. That kind of stuff, for me is exhilarating.
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That's Cleopatra. Papa zacher Reo, executive board member of the
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Illinois Search and Staffing Association. We've got links to Cleopatra's
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What if your entire career comes down to just one
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moment where you decide it's time to speak up for yourself.
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I'm Joe Taylor Junior. This is Search and Replace Cleopatra.
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Papa Zacherru says her early family life didn't fully prepare
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her for the kind of big decisions she'd have to
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make as an adult. In fact, it only got her
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ready for a few very specific things.
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Being a girl and an immigrant family growing up Greek.
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They didn't have a lot of expectations for us at all.
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You grow up, you get married, you have babies. It's
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my big sid Greek fan, my big fat Greek wedding.
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I mean, it's the story of my life, it really is.
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I remember the very first time somebody told me I
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couldn't do something, and that feeling a hat on the
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inset of who are you to tell me what I
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can I can't do because I don't even know what
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I can I can't do at the time. As weirdly
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as it is to say it like this, it was
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almost forced.
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Upon me right Cleopatra found herself facing a challenge that
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really none of us ever expect, no matter what our
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lives were like growing up.
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I was in a situation where it was either due
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or not die. But it was kind of a drastic
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situation in my personal life. We were pretty poor at
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the time. My ex husband at the time had made
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some rather poor decisions for the family. Power was off.
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We didn't have any food in the fridge. We couldn't
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pay the bills. I only had a restaurant background, hotel background,
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you know, I think out at the time, it was
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only making like ten bucks an hour. Both of us
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were unemployed. It was really tough, so I had to
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get out there and find a job. I didn't know
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what to do. I ended up taking a role as
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a receptionist making ten bucks an hour. That I had
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a drive an hour each way for five days a week,
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working four hours a day didn't make any sense logically, right,
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You'd say that the gas money, the daycare. It seems
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like it would be lopsided, so financially it seems like
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a silly move. But I thought, who knows what it
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could lead to.
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Seizing that opportunity set Cleopatra down a path that really
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would change her life in the long run.
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It ended up being that the agency that I was
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working for was hiring internally, and I raised my hand
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one day and I thought, you're hiring and you didn't
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call me, like you know, I'm looking for work. And
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at the moment, I'd never ever raised my hand for
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anything like that before. I don't know where it came from,
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but something rose up in me and said, girl, you
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need to say something, because you need to eat. I
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went in for the interview, and I was on the
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thirtieth floor of the High Rais in downtown Milwaukee. And
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the lady that I was interviewing with, I don't know
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if you've seen that TV show Suits where they have
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like those crisp suits in downtown the address of the nine.
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They're so intimidating. Well, she's interviewing me and ask me
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all these tough questions. I don't know how to answer them.
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But she's like doing her hair in the window behind me,
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and I'm just like, oh, this is bombing, Like this
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is going awful. So as I'm walking out the door
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and knowing I wasn't getting the job, I looked her
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in the eyes. I'm shaking her hand, and I said, look,
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I know it. I'll have a type of personality, but
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I know I can do this show if you just
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give me a chance.
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She did.
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I thought that was the moment that I lost the job.
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It ended up being the moment that she said, yeah,
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she's going to get it. That year, I started off
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as a recruiter who was making thirty five thousand a year,
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from ten bucks an hour to thirty five thousand, just
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like that. Mind you, I was a good Greek girl, right,
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So I didn't go to school, I didn't get my degree.
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I'll let him do it. So I made thirty five
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thousand that first year. I netted seventy five K with
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commissions and everything. Within a few years made it to
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six figures. I've never looked back.
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That six figure career that Cleopatra landed all has to
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do with helping other people find their ideal jobs.
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What I've done since then, in what twenty some years,
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is build a career in the staffing basically working every
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single role, every vertical except for engineering and science. You
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don't want me doing that. And I have been a
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part of so many people's career stories. So all the
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things that my parents couldn't do. I'm out there helping
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other people do it, and it is the story of
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my life, and it is the passion of my life.
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And who knew because I took a ten dollars temp job,
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That ten dollars temp job for me eventually led to
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where I'm a single mom now and I was able
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to get out of a gnarly situation. And I've been
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able to help others do that, Like I have a
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gal that never made more than eight bucks an hour
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in her life and is now the director of business
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Analytics for a firm in downtown New York City managing
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global software developers QA teams offshore on shore Like she
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doesn't have a degree either. She worked her way up
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from a receptionist just like I did, and she surpassed me,
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like she's crushing it. I have people that are project
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managers that are now CIOs, so I look at it
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from both perspectives. My candidates today are my hiring managers tomorrow,
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So I get to see the dream from both sides.
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People that come in today as a candidate, and I
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get to put them in the job of.
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Their dreams now when they're in those roles, I get
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to help them build a department of their dreams and
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help them make those jobs their dreams and make that
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position their dream.
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Cleopatra says that making the kind of human connection she
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forged with her job interviewer in that office building all
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those years ago is crucial for anyone looking to change
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careers today.
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I'm lucky because I've had some pretty good mentors. And
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I heard somebody say once mentorship is good, it's great,
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it's awesome, But who's your sponsor in life? Who's your
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sponsor at work? So I think about that a lot,
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and who can I want? Doris? Can I kick down
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for somebody to help them get to where they want
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to get to. My daddy used to always say, You're
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reputation walks into the room before you do, so make
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sure it's got good things to say about you. So
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try to walk with integrity everywhere I go. Because it
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is a small world. People know you, and if you
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think about karma and try to do all the right
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things as much as you can, that things come back
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to you. There are moments where I sit back and
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I feel like I'm watching myself and I'm like, oh God,
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I'm really doing this, and it is the coolest feeling
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in the world. And I really love my job, and
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I love the people around me, and what I find
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the most satisfaction in is seeing them succeed. I used
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to say I want to see my name up in lights.
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I don't care anymore. I want to see yours and
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yours and yours, and I want to see them make
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more money. That kind of stuff, for me is exhilarating.
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That's Cleopatra. Papa zacher Reo, executive board member of the
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Illinois Search and Staffing Association. We've got links to Cleopatra's
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