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And speaking of those standards, before we get off the line,
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I wanted to throw out things like age across state
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defense forces and state guards nationwide. You know there's a
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broader age range. So when you're talking about training to
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national standards, do you see that there might be levels?
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You know, from maybe age this to age that, your
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your training standards would be this, and age so and
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so to the next age your training standards would be
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a little different, just so that you don't eliminate some
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people who bring a lot to the table but may
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not be able to meet the physical standard. So I say,
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someone in their twenties or thirties, what are your thoughts
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about that?
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That has been I guess a point of contention among
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many state guards. So some have decided to do things
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like if you don't meet the height weight standards, you're
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gonna wear a polo with khaki pants. So one of
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those is Louisiana. So the I know the Louisiana State Guard.
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Every time we post something about them. They have blue
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polos khaki pants, and we rarely see them in ocps.
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You know, even people that I see in polos and
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khaki pants that look like they meet the physical and
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weight standards of a US Army soldier, they're still wearing
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khaki pants and brown polos. I'm scared about where that
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goes because once that becomes like a norm, then you're
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going to have a state guard that's that's that that's
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going to be framed as not military. And I could
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tell you specifically that is very dangerous. This is this
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is a very dangerous territory. And I've I've spoken to
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House Military Chairman's, Congressman, senators. That is very scary because.
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Understand why were you able to help them to understand why.
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That Yes, yes, definitely, I I've explained it to them.
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I'm not going to mention the state that I had
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that conversation with with a chairman. But the the problem
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is is once you start going down that route of
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blue you know, polos and khaki pants, right, you're not
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seen as military. You don't see US Army, US Air
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Force wearing blue and occupants you just don't ever. And
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I can understand, well, if we have people that are overweights,
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you know, or beyond you know, a certain age, or
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too young or you know, height and weight, all this stuff,
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we don't want to expose for our organization to appear
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out of place. Right, And we do have standards. I
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know a lot of state guards do more than the
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US Army standards like I think US Armies like or
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US Army National Guard, for god.
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They do above.
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They can waiver above and beyond a certain threshold. I
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know state guards, and each one's different. They go above
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and beyond even those standards. They'll do another like ten pounds.
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So if you're twenty pounds over the state guardles will
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take you and you can go in uniform. But the
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problem becomes, I'd rather have somebody that's a little overweight,
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has a belly on right, or what have you might be,
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you know, sixty seven years old and you know we're
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seventy two years old. I you know, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger,
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seventy eight years old, looks like he's in his fifties.
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So I don't think there should be set exactly set
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retirement dates, right. You know, Arnold Schwartzenegger is seventy eight
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years old. I've seen him, you know, still out bench
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people that are in their twenties and thirties, right, So
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I think that should be on a case by case basis.
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So no mandatory retirement age. Right, You're losing people that
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can contribute in ways that you know an eighteen or
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twenty or thirty or forty year old cannot, right, and
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you're gonna lose it because hey, yeah he's over the age. Yeah,
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but he's bench pressing and he's running. He's able to
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do the military state or closer to the military standards,
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keep them, so that's why.
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Or he offers an expertise that you know, he's a
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doctor or has medical training and or IT training. He
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offers an expertise that a younger person and not yet acquired.
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So there are reasons why you might want to accept
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someone of an older age.
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Going back to the khaki thing, because I know a
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lot of state guards are considering this what Louisiana is doing.
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Don't go down this route. Now. I understand Louisiana gives
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soldiers the option of choosing ocps or the khaki pants
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and stuff and such, But no, because this is a
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very very very slippery slope. I've talked to legislators. A
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lot of them are doing or trying to replicate khaki
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pants and polos. A lot of legislators are looking to
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do things like that, and not only that, but make
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it a civilian organization. So one state that I've talked to,
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we're looking to make it a civilian agency. Right, And
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at that point I said, you do this, we step away.
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We're not supporting it. In fact, we will oppose it
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in every facet. And the reason being is the Florida
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State Guard is not on the state u CMJ. And
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I've told this to legislaate legislators, and I've convinced them
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to keep the ones that we were referring to on
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the the state UCMJ, because if you have, I'm just
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going to pick a state at random. This is not
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the state that I'm I've talked about with that person.
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If you have, we'll use my state New York art right.
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I was tasked with hurricane happening pass with guarding a
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specific not room, but auditorium right where males were sleeping
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and females were sleeping. And my job was to make
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sure that you know a male side single male didn't
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go to the female side, and you know, something serious happening, right,
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So my job was to stand there make sure that
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you know, nothing anything like that happened. Right. We had
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soldiers posted throughout the old building making sure that happens. Now,
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if I was a Florida State Guardsman, which is the
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reason why we do not recognize Florida State guard as
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a defense wars is because if I was a Florida
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State Guardsman, I could have got a phone call from
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my let's say, my wife and pick it up and say, hey, listen,
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I need you to come home. You know this is flooding.
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I need help. You know, something serious is going on.
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At that point, I'm not under the state UCMJ. Right,
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I could say all right, all right, honey, I'm I'm
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coming back. I'm going right now, I'm literally leaving. I
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could take off my coat right there, throw it on
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the floor, walk out without even telling anybody, right, just
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walk out the back entrance, right, and then something, let's say,
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does happen. Right, They're gonna say, where's where's this guy,
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where's the where's my State guardsman? He's like, I don't know,
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and they call and like yeah, I'm home. I'm not
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doing this anymore now. The only trouble that person's gonna
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get into is, all right, you do realize you're not
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in the state guards anywhere. I'm like, yeah, I knew
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that at the moment I took off my blouse. The
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difference is the state UCMJ. If I had done such
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a thing, I would have went to I would have
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went before a criminal court. And the New York Guard
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has done that in the past, where you know, and
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this was during basic training. What one person decided this
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is not for me. He didn't tell anybody left. They
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issued a warrant for his rest. You know that is
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very very important if you are starting a state guard, right.
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No polos.
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You know we're gonna release a policy soon within the
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next month saying we oppose the polos in every state
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and we do not will not recognize any state defense
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for us that is not under the state u CMJ
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at all. Because once you go down that road, don't
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even create a state guard, create a civilian reserve core,
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whatever you want to name, mom, But the one thing's
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for sure, you're not gonna be able to count on
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them because if they're if they're civilian and you tell
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them to do something, they can quit their job at
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any time. So that that that's just my piece on it.
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That's what I've been fighting. That's what I've been talking
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to National Guard. That's what I've been talking to legislators about.
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Don't put people in polos. It's a very slippery slope. Alabama,
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Oregon tried this. We've seen what happened. Oregon went from military,
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I believe they went to polos and now called the
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Oregon Civil Defense Force. They're not a state defense force.
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The Oregon will say the contrary, No, they're a state
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defense force.
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Yeah.
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No. If you read section one oh nine, it says
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troops troops equal military right there. When you say troops
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right there's Webster's Dictionary, it will tell you it troops
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equal military. So they cannot be a civil defense force.
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So that's what it comes down to. And I know
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a lot of states are having this fight. I know
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Connecticut's having this fight right now with uniforms, with their
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ads in general. And you know, we are getting into
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the We're getting into trying to help as much as
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we can. In many states. We know there's a lot
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of AJUND generals out there too, like a good example,
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as the Connecticut Agent in General try to remove the
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governor's guards completely from the state military. We have to
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oppose these things, and Sagas wasn't there for that, and
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I'm hoping with this new president they're there next time
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something like this happens.
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Interesting stuff again, just that national standardization I think has
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a lot of legs and so hopefully one day the
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circumstances and situations are right for that to occur. I'd
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love to see it happen.
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Colonel Phillip Smith, and other Patreon members. Support us at
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patreon dot com. Forward slash State Defense Force.
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And speaking of those standards, before we get off the line,
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I wanted to throw out things like age across state
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defense forces and state guards nationwide. You know there's a
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broader age range. So when you're talking about training to
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national standards, do you see that there might be levels?
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You know, from maybe age this to age that, your
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your training standards would be this, and age so and
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so to the next age your training standards would be
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a little different, just so that you don't eliminate some
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people who bring a lot to the table but may
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not be able to meet the physical standard. So I say,
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someone in their twenties or thirties, what are your thoughts
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about that?
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That has been I guess a point of contention among
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many state guards. So some have decided to do things
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like if you don't meet the height weight standards, you're
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gonna wear a polo with khaki pants. So one of
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those is Louisiana. So the I know the Louisiana State Guard.
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Every time we post something about them. They have blue
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polos khaki pants, and we rarely see them in ocps.
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You know, even people that I see in polos and
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khaki pants that look like they meet the physical and
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weight standards of a US Army soldier, they're still wearing
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khaki pants and brown polos. I'm scared about where that
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goes because once that becomes like a norm, then you're
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going to have a state guard that's that's that that's
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going to be framed as not military. And I could
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tell you specifically that is very dangerous. This is this
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is a very dangerous territory. And I've I've spoken to
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House Military Chairman's, Congressman, senators. That is very scary because.
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Understand why were you able to help them to understand why.
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That Yes, yes, definitely, I I've explained it to them.
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I'm not going to mention the state that I had
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that conversation with with a chairman. But the the problem
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is is once you start going down that route of
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blue you know, polos and khaki pants, right, you're not
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seen as military. You don't see US Army, US Air
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Force wearing blue and occupants you just don't ever. And
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I can understand, well, if we have people that are overweights,
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you know, or beyond you know, a certain age, or
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too young or you know, height and weight, all this stuff,
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we don't want to expose for our organization to appear
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out of place. Right, And we do have standards. I
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know a lot of state guards do more than the
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US Army standards like I think US Armies like or
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US Army National Guard, for god.
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They do above.
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They can waiver above and beyond a certain threshold. I
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know state guards, and each one's different. They go above
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and beyond even those standards. They'll do another like ten pounds.
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So if you're twenty pounds over the state guardles will
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take you and you can go in uniform. But the
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problem becomes, I'd rather have somebody that's a little overweight,
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has a belly on right, or what have you might be,
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you know, sixty seven years old and you know we're
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seventy two years old. I you know, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger,
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seventy eight years old, looks like he's in his fifties.
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So I don't think there should be set exactly set
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retirement dates, right. You know, Arnold Schwartzenegger is seventy eight
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years old. I've seen him, you know, still out bench
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people that are in their twenties and thirties, right, So
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I think that should be on a case by case basis.
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So no mandatory retirement age. Right, You're losing people that
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can contribute in ways that you know an eighteen or
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twenty or thirty or forty year old cannot, right, and
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you're gonna lose it because hey, yeah he's over the age. Yeah,
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but he's bench pressing and he's running. He's able to
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do the military state or closer to the military standards,
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keep them, so that's why.
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Or he offers an expertise that you know, he's a
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doctor or has medical training and or IT training. He
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offers an expertise that a younger person and not yet acquired.
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So there are reasons why you might want to accept
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someone of an older age.
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Going back to the khaki thing, because I know a
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lot of state guards are considering this what Louisiana is doing.
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Don't go down this route. Now. I understand Louisiana gives
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soldiers the option of choosing ocps or the khaki pants
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and stuff and such, But no, because this is a
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very very very slippery slope. I've talked to legislators. A
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lot of them are doing or trying to replicate khaki
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pants and polos. A lot of legislators are looking to
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do things like that, and not only that, but make
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it a civilian organization. So one state that I've talked to,
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we're looking to make it a civilian agency. Right, And
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at that point I said, you do this, we step away.
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We're not supporting it. In fact, we will oppose it
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in every facet. And the reason being is the Florida
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State Guard is not on the state u CMJ. And
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I've told this to legislaate legislators, and I've convinced them
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to keep the ones that we were referring to on
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the the state UCMJ, because if you have, I'm just
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going to pick a state at random. This is not
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the state that I'm I've talked about with that person.
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If you have, we'll use my state New York art right.
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I was tasked with hurricane happening pass with guarding a
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specific not room, but auditorium right where males were sleeping
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and females were sleeping. And my job was to make
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sure that you know a male side single male didn't
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go to the female side, and you know, something serious happening, right,
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So my job was to stand there make sure that
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you know, nothing anything like that happened. Right. We had
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soldiers posted throughout the old building making sure that happens. Now,
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if I was a Florida State Guardsman, which is the
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reason why we do not recognize Florida State guard as
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a defense wars is because if I was a Florida
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State Guardsman, I could have got a phone call from
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my let's say, my wife and pick it up and say, hey, listen,
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I need you to come home. You know this is flooding.
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I need help. You know, something serious is going on.
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At that point, I'm not under the state UCMJ. Right,
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I could say all right, all right, honey, I'm I'm
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coming back. I'm going right now, I'm literally leaving. I
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could take off my coat right there, throw it on
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the floor, walk out without even telling anybody, right, just
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walk out the back entrance, right, and then something, let's say,
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does happen. Right, They're gonna say, where's where's this guy,
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where's the where's my State guardsman? He's like, I don't know,
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and they call and like yeah, I'm home. I'm not
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doing this anymore now. The only trouble that person's gonna
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get into is, all right, you do realize you're not
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in the state guards anywhere. I'm like, yeah, I knew
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that at the moment I took off my blouse. The
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difference is the state UCMJ. If I had done such
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a thing, I would have went to I would have
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went before a criminal court. And the New York Guard
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has done that in the past, where you know, and
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this was during basic training. What one person decided this
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is not for me. He didn't tell anybody left. They
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issued a warrant for his rest. You know that is
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very very important if you are starting a state guard, right.
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No polos.
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You know we're gonna release a policy soon within the
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next month saying we oppose the polos in every state
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and we do not will not recognize any state defense
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for us that is not under the state u CMJ
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at all. Because once you go down that road, don't
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even create a state guard, create a civilian reserve core,
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whatever you want to name, mom, But the one thing's
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for sure, you're not gonna be able to count on
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them because if they're if they're civilian and you tell
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them to do something, they can quit their job at
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any time. So that that that's just my piece on it.
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That's what I've been fighting. That's what I've been talking
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to National Guard. That's what I've been talking to legislators about.
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Don't put people in polos. It's a very slippery slope. Alabama,
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Oregon tried this. We've seen what happened. Oregon went from military,
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I believe they went to polos and now called the
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Oregon Civil Defense Force. They're not a state defense force.
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The Oregon will say the contrary, No, they're a state
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defense force.
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Yeah.
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No. If you read section one oh nine, it says
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troops troops equal military right there. When you say troops
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right there's Webster's Dictionary, it will tell you it troops
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equal military. So they cannot be a civil defense force.
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So that's what it comes down to. And I know
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a lot of states are having this fight. I know
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Connecticut's having this fight right now with uniforms, with their
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ads in general. And you know, we are getting into
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the We're getting into trying to help as much as
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we can. In many states. We know there's a lot
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of AJUND generals out there too, like a good example,
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as the Connecticut Agent in General try to remove the
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governor's guards completely from the state military. We have to
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oppose these things, and Sagas wasn't there for that, and
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I'm hoping with this new president they're there next time
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something like this happens.
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Interesting stuff again, just that national standardization I think has
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a lot of legs and so hopefully one day the
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circumstances and situations are right for that to occur. I'd
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love to see it happen.
